Can You Beat Skyrim WITHOUT Breaking The Ten Commandments?

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  • @backfisch773
    @backfisch773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3509

    Technically, with the draugr deceased, if there is no one to claim the inheritance, the property will go over to the state. In this case the Jarl of Whiterun, since Bleakfalls lies within his administration. Set Jarl gave you explicit permission to retrieve the stone. And as the draugr can’t make a legal claim to property, once deceased, even his „resurrection“ wouldn’t restore ownership. So you’re fully within your right to take the dragonstone.

    • @kabob0077
      @kabob0077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +677

      Plus, we can also argue that the draugr, being a corpse reanimated by magic, is an abomination unto God and killing it is doing God's Will and removing an abomination from the world.

    • @ArcAngle1117
      @ArcAngle1117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +251

      Except those are family crypts, people's ancestors are buried there. There's actually a quest where you help someone clear out their family crypt and he complains about you stealing his family's stuff(Although the game doesn't consider it stealing)

    • @killianramsey4805
      @killianramsey4805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +210

      Additionally, it's possible to consider this archeology, which I don't believe is considered stealing

    • @NaughtiusMaximmus
      @NaughtiusMaximmus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +230

      @@killianramsey4805 now this makes me wonder if archeology could be considered some sort of organized crime

    • @JosephSmith-lm4ri
      @JosephSmith-lm4ri 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@NaughtiusMaximmus depends on what angle you look at it from.

  • @ParadigmShiftInc
    @ParadigmShiftInc ปีที่แล้ว +2821

    20:09 Bruh that’s Berserk levels of trauma. Imagine fighting powerful demonic enemies, deep down in the depths of a long forgotten tomb, only for your best friend to appear out of nowhere to save you in your moments of most need, only for him to be murdered in front of you then brought back to life by a witch, you’re then forced to fight and kill him again, while the guy who brought you down there to begin with, is hiding behind a rock, just watching.

  • @namae6637
    @namae6637 ปีที่แล้ว +1371

    I would consider Hadvar telling you to take the gear from the chest not to be stealing. As far as the Dragonborn is concerned, in that moment Hadvar is the highest ranking officer currently alive and thus holds the authority to delegate the empire’s munitions as he sees fit. He has acting authority and can authorise the provision of armour from the warden’s armour chest, after all it’s the empire’s armour.

    • @fruitsnacks155
      @fruitsnacks155 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      this is a great point.

    • @buzzsawwyrm1595
      @buzzsawwyrm1595 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Excellent point

    • @rustyjones7908
      @rustyjones7908 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Yeah, it wasn't the soldier's gear, it was the empire/stormcloak's gear

    • @Techhunter_Talon
      @Techhunter_Talon ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Plus he's doing his best to protect a civilian, even though they were a criminal about to sentenced to the chopping block for execution. Granted, he does recognize that executing you would have been wrong and likely wasn't a suiting punishment for your possible crime of illegal border hopping. Also, of course, wearing Stormcloak or Imperial gear realistically might cause further trouble but that could be circumvented by just switching back to your rags and ditching the gear once out of the cave.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios ปีที่แล้ว +16

      And the same with Ralof. They might be rebels, but he gives the Dragonborn explicit permission to take the gear from his brother-in-arms. Both of you make it out alive, so the Dragonborn could just return the stuff on the next possible occasion. If you leave the stuff there, it will either be destroyed or falls into the enemy's hands. So borrowing the stuff feels closer to the rules than leaving it there.
      Obviously you take it off once out of the situation, wash it (just dip it in a river), and then return it to the rightful owner (throw it at Ulfric or Tullius).

  • @cailemkostiuk377
    @cailemkostiuk377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1507

    Hadvar is an imperial officer so is allowed to let you use imperial equipment, therefore the chest is fine.

    • @thorhollingsworth4415
      @thorhollingsworth4415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I don't think he's an officer when he lets you take from the Legion.

    • @overlorddante
      @overlorddante 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      My thoughts exactly.

    • @nordvestgaming1238
      @nordvestgaming1238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +268

      @@thorhollingsworth4415 True, but at that moment he is the commanding figure, considering he is the only Imperial soldier present in the room. So I would argue it is still okay since you were explicitly told to take the items by someone who has the authority to give permission to take said items.

    • @VannahSavage
      @VannahSavage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      He's also the better choice when it comes to early game finances, as his uncle is the Riverwood blacksmith and will let you take the (respawning) ingots from his forge when you follow Hadvar. Considering he also tells you to "help yourself to whatever you need, within reason", and that the weapons and armor near his forge are still off-limits, I would think the ingots count the same as the supplies you can take from him initially.

    • @michael9433
      @michael9433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@thorhollingsworth4415 Still the highest ranking imperial representative

  • @stellaflowers301
    @stellaflowers301 ปีที่แล้ว +1465

    If you talk to the Greybeards after beating Alduin, they make it clear that Alduin isn't dead, just banished. You could use that as an argument to say you still haven't killed anything by the end of the game

    • @kudzufarmer5431
      @kudzufarmer5431 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      The only comment I was looking for.

    • @BrodyKramer
      @BrodyKramer ปีที่แล้ว +44

      No they do not, they state that they are unsure if he is dead or not. A lot of ambiguity

    • @patrickbuckley7259
      @patrickbuckley7259 ปีที่แล้ว +160

      @@BrodyKramer Paarthanax however does explicitly state this.

    • @thegingerbreadmaninyouroven
      @thegingerbreadmaninyouroven ปีที่แล้ว +20

      He's dead, think of it as a rebirth. Like a phoenix, it dies but comes back virtually the same.
      So honestly its kinda grey area.
      Plus its for a good cause though.
      I think it's in the green

    • @joshclark756
      @joshclark756 ปีที่แล้ว

      im pretty sure the ten commandments inly stops you from killing people

  • @ProtomanWasTaken
    @ProtomanWasTaken ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Dude dances around all religions in the opening rules and covers all his bases in a completely intense and flawless way. I'm impressed!!!

  • @idontknoq4813
    @idontknoq4813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4754

    "The command says thou shalt not kill, it does not say thou shalt not beat the living crap out of someone"
    ah, yes, just as the founding fathers intended.

    • @rockerattribute
      @rockerattribute ปีที่แล้ว

      FOUR RUFFIANS BREAK INTO MY HOUSE, "WHAT THE DEVIL?" AS I PULL OUT MY POWDERED WIG AND KENTUCKY RIFLE. I BLOW A GOLF BALL SIZED HOLE THROUGH THE FIRST MAN, HE'S DEAD ON THE SPOT, DRAW MY PISTOL ON THE SECOND MAN, MISSES HIM ENTIRELY BECAUSE ITS SMOOTHBORE AND NAILS THE NEIGHBOR'S DOG. I HAVE TO RESORT TO THE CANNON MOUNTED AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS LOADED WITH GRAPE SHOT, "TALLY HO, LADS!" GRAPE SHOT SHREDS 2 MEN IN THE BLAST, THE SOUND AND EXTRA SHRAPNEL SET OFF CAR ALARMS. FIX THE BAYONET AND CHARGE THE LAST TERRIFIED RAPSCALLION, BLEEDS OUT WAITING FOR THE POLICE TO ARRIVE BECAUSE TRIANGULAR BAYONET WOUNDS ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO STITCH UP. Just as the founding fathers intended.

    • @beecherry3943
      @beecherry3943 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      ,,,, I mean they were p into beating their slaves to almost but not quite death so like ,,, ur not wrong 😬

    • @nathaniel5157
      @nathaniel5157 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I would have used the dragonsreach afk into a pillar for that sneak level, but bludgeoning a greybeard is technically grey area so...

    • @maninthecamohat2735
      @maninthecamohat2735 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      "You were talking a little crazy earlier I had to put my hands on you. I guess you forgot that Christian don't make me soft and this Bible don't make me sweet we're from the South side of heaven. Now get on up let's get a Gatorade."

    • @Софија-крафт
      @Софија-крафт ปีที่แล้ว

      @@beecherry3943 what Jews freed their slaves every 7 yrs

  • @orphanofkosishot3940
    @orphanofkosishot3940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5787

    Technically being a dragonborn is a gift from Akatosh. The challenge was lost before it even began.
    Alright, if anyone else beyond the 140 has something to say about my comment, I suggest reading the replies. Chances are someone else has said your exact thoughts, and I have addressed 'your' reply already. Thank you for reading.

    • @progoof9148
      @progoof9148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +200

      I thought it was a gift from Akatosh...

    • @orphanofkosishot3940
      @orphanofkosishot3940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +306

      @@progoof9148 It seems like it's up for speculation. It could realistically be either Akatosh or Kyne because they've both blessed people with dragon born powers multiple times.

    • @ink4852
      @ink4852 2 ปีที่แล้ว +346

      @@orphanofkosishot3940 Elder Scrolls lore can get really weird, but it's generally accepted that Kyne (and Paarthurnax) taught men how to Shout, and Akatosh bestows the gift of the dragonblood as he did with St. Alessia in the 1st Era.
      The only one I know that could be linked directly to Kyne would be Ysmir, who was not a Dragonborn, but was an aspect of Shor. Like a god reincarnated into a mortal. And who is Shor's wife? Yes, Kyne.
      Though it is also theorized that your own character is an aspect of Shor which is partly why Shor is not present on his thrown in Sovngarde.
      To be fair, this is from memory. It's been a long time since I've done any deep lore dives. That first bit is taken from Skyrim the game though.

    • @orphanofkosishot3940
      @orphanofkosishot3940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@ink4852 I suppose it then depends on what theories you subscribe to regarding the dragonborn. A question that might come if it's truly Akatosh who blesses the dragonborn is, why would he want Alduin dead? I always thought of Akatosh sort of like Peryite if you know what I'm saying. Would he really interfere to such a degree as to stall the end of time?

    • @Zankaras
      @Zankaras 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      As I understand it, Dragonborn come from Akatosh like all other dragon souls and Kyne gave non-Dragonborn the ability to learn how to shout like Dragonborn with years of training and practice.

  • @patrickbuckley7259
    @patrickbuckley7259 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    As someone who usually tries to play this game as a good guy, I can attest to how hard it is not to get caught in a scenario where you need to do something messed up just to progress. So I can only imagine how hard this is.

    • @LibraritheWizardOfficial
      @LibraritheWizardOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +22

      It's annoying how many "good" actions add some kind of criminal record (eg trespassing, stealing, or assault) that force your Divine Crusader wearing hero to go on a journey of penance 😔

    • @patrickbuckley7259
      @patrickbuckley7259 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@LibraritheWizardOfficial If it where only that it would not be so bad. There are so many quests you can get where you have to do blatantly evil things, like murder innocence to complete them. One outright baits you with the prospect of helping a Vigilant of Stendarr fight Daeda. Only to give you a really linier Daedric quest.
      So at best you end up with a list of uncompleted quests, or worse you end up in a situation where you literally cannot move forward without doing something your character would never do.

    • @LibraritheWizardOfficial
      @LibraritheWizardOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@patrickbuckley7259 Yep the Daedric quests are just really awful. They wouldn't be half as bad if they didn't railroad you.

    • @patrickbuckley7259
      @patrickbuckley7259 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@LibraritheWizardOfficial The Star of Azura and the Skull of Corruption are both solid. Both give you options. A Night To Remember isn't too bad, as if your character is a tea-totaled you won't take it, and I think the drinking contest is only a bullet point quest. A couple of the others at least give you options, but don't give you an option to completely rebuke the Daedra. Hircine's and Clavicus Vile's quests for example. Neither of which have the delema associated with Azura's Star (Which actually presents an interesting conundrum for a holy crusader.) Nocturnal is locked behind the thieves guild so it's not obstructive, though they try to force you to do the Thieves Guild quest line itself. Mehrunes Dagon's at least let's you do the right thing, but it's just really boring. A lot of the others are just annoying. Meridia gives you a great sword, and she's chill, but most crusaders in universe are not going to see her as a good entity, and her quest is still very linear, and kind of unavoidable, unless you want to put up with pure annoyance.
      Molag Bal's quest-line made me reboot a run. I was hoping at the end I could do something to spite the prince, but no dice. It literally baits you. Hermaeus Mora's being tied up in the main quest line combined with him being all "I own you" skyrocketed him from being my least favorite Deadric Prince to an entity I absolutely loath, and not in a love to hate kinda wa like Clavicus VIle.
      Then they force you to become a werewolf in the Champions quest-line. The factional quest line a Crusader style character is most likely to do in the absence of a Religious Faction (Which stings as the Vigilant of Stendarr are right there, then we get these watered down edgelords in Dawnguard). Then you slaughter werewolf hunters on the behalf of werewolves...
      It get's excessive.
      Sorry for the wall of text... I am actually stressed right now and getting to nerd out was actually really cathartic.

    • @LibraritheWizardOfficial
      @LibraritheWizardOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@patrickbuckley7259 Only problem with Azura's Star is that you have to kill Malyn, regardless of which choice you intend for the star. For as strict of an interpretation as this video took, that's a hard block. Trapped inside the star as he is, Malyn can't somehow be tricked onto committing sudoku by bear or dragon. You could use something like the spiders from Dragonborn DLC to avoid a player kill on the stats page, but that just seems worse. It's better to break a commandment and own it than to try to get by on a loophole.

  • @jaredwishart3403
    @jaredwishart3403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +811

    You know, technically you can look at killing Alduin in more than one way. In a way, he's a false god in and of himself. So defeating him could be considered akin to destroying an idol or graven image. Plus, it's ambiguous as to if he actually does, or is merely banished until a later time. Great video!

    • @jaredwishart3403
      @jaredwishart3403 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      *dies

    • @ovidiufarcau243
      @ovidiufarcau243 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Agree here and also any daedric quest that you want to do to foil the deadra request could also be consider into this topic: I am thinking here of Clavicus vile and saving Barbas ! vermina`s quest, to get Erandur.
      category

    • @folksyoxytocin
      @folksyoxytocin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      He is a God, pretty sure he doesn't actually die since you don't absorb his soul like you do other dragons

    • @ferea_896
      @ferea_896 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He is actually destroyed for good
      In the lore the dragonborn is the one who destroys him for good
      He was banished before by the three heroes. Then he returned and the dragonborn destroyed him

    • @demcurvs
      @demcurvs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ferea_896 It's debatable if he was destroyed, since technically Alduin is Akatosh/Auriel. Really a dragonborn is a chosen of Akatosh that's required to defeat a manifestation/interpretation of himself that wasn't doing it's job of factory resetting the world. Lol

  • @SirFrankoman
    @SirFrankoman ปีที่แล้ว +768

    9:50 "She will do all the killing for me, so I won't end up breaking the commandment!" Ah yes, delegation, the greatest loophole in the 10 commandments.

    • @Justii218
      @Justii218 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Well actually in terms if you tell someone "Murder this person" and they do your still responsible in your own way for there Killing
      So the Commandment is broken as you still basically ordered a Killing, this you indirectly killed someone

    • @moddable6921
      @moddable6921 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@Justii218 History never saw it that way, and is exactly why kings/leaders were able to get away with getting people killed / stealing things / etc. via delegation for hundreds of years

    • @patrickbuckley7259
      @patrickbuckley7259 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Justii218 Yep exactly, otherwise God would not have punished David for sending that man to the frontlines to die, so he could sleep with his wife.

    • @patrickbuckley7259
      @patrickbuckley7259 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@moddable6921 Not exactly. Legally speaking they where protected. However, in regards to religious law, Kings where expected either to have a just reason for their actions or to seek penance for such crimes. In the Bible several kings are punished by God for such actions. King David for example.

    • @moddable6921
      @moddable6921 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@patrickbuckley7259 Yeah but a sufficient "just reason" at least in the eyes of the average citizen or the church was "God wants me to do it" even if it's a pretty horrific act. That was their excuse and for the most part it worked

  • @Eira_
    @Eira_ ปีที่แล้ว +394

    I think you could make an exception to the "no killing" rule for things like vampires, werewolves, undead, and daedra since they would all be considered "unholy". You could also get away with killing Dwemer wutomatons since they're machines and aren't alive to begin with.

    • @knotlock
      @knotlock ปีที่แล้ว

      You could also get around that rule by just *killing everyone* who doesn’t worship YHWH, (with the exception of the virgin daughters of those people because they can be kept as sex slaves or wives,) just. like. Moses!

    • @GhostzinZ
      @GhostzinZ ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Actually killing is """ok"""" as long is self defense

    • @TheUlimade
      @TheUlimade ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Goddamitt, no don't kill just because they are unholy, don't make us relieve the crusade, those are still poor souls

    • @adrianmcbride1666
      @adrianmcbride1666 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well you can't really kill that which is already dead, just free it's soul from it's physical cage.

    • @GhostzinZ
      @GhostzinZ ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@adrianmcbride1666 and there's the thing that in cristianity if the thing came back from the dead and it was not by God's hand, it's either magic or demonic related so it would be a good thing to destroy it

  • @the_soggster3464
    @the_soggster3464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +228

    imagine some mom googling "is skyrim Christian safe for my kid?" and then she gets reccomend this video lmao

  • @SamFromSolitude
    @SamFromSolitude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1775

    Really cool vid!!
    For the “Thou shalt honour mother and father” commandment, there actually is an optional dialogue with Serana during Dawnguard where she asks what the player’s parent were like, and you can respond positively. So I think that counts as upholding that commandment.

    • @holaiamdevil
      @holaiamdevil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      sure that would count but he doesnt do dawnguard in this vid

    • @diegopugaquintanilla4344
      @diegopugaquintanilla4344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      doing dawnguard would be pretty hard while following the ten commandments

    • @fuju7871
      @fuju7871 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Could that potentially be lying though?

    • @SamFromSolitude
      @SamFromSolitude ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@fuju7871 all depends on whether you the player think it’s truthful. It’s up to you to make up the backstory for your character

  • @flamebrindger3984
    @flamebrindger3984 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    I have NEVER heard of a challenge run like this before, lmao. My mind is blown at how genius it is.

  • @Jboy2000000
    @Jboy2000000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +409

    You can actually commit adultery, you need to be married and then start Sanguine's quest where you will marry a Hagraven. What's funny is, one of the potentional spouses is involved in the quest. So you can go to your wife, and she'll gush about how in love you are were with your wife, and that's why she gave you a wedding ring for a reduced price.

    • @khajiitimanus7432
      @khajiitimanus7432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Oh gods, I never thought about that!

    • @TheDestructiveGiant
      @TheDestructiveGiant 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      This happened to me on my first playthrough

    • @ittylink
      @ittylink ปีที่แล้ว +1

      By Ysgramor's beard!

    • @lefrinj
      @lefrinj ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yup this happened to me too, or maybe it was before I married her, but it was an interesting twist. It worked out pretty nicely though because when I returned home with the amulet of Mara, she came around the corner carrying a basket of flowers. Nice :-)

  • @Beamo1080
    @Beamo1080 ปีที่แล้ว +289

    I think you can actually honor your parents in Skyrim. I know of one instance in the game when the Dragonborn’s parents come up. If I recall correctly, an optional conversation with Serana in the Dawnguard DLC let’s the player make a couple of comments on their parents, ranging from they were good, bad, or weren’t in his/her life.
    So a true Ten Commandments run would involve you going out of your way to free Serana and progress the quest line to when that conversation becomes available.

    • @aratheroddpumpkin
      @aratheroddpumpkin ปีที่แล้ว +34

      As well as a small part in the blood and sliver markarth quest where you can say that you have family but they're far away or that you don't care for them

    • @JasmineHewitt51
      @JasmineHewitt51 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can confirm I just did this quest line and yes that dialogue for parents is available

    • @ladyjellyfish4757
      @ladyjellyfish4757 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@aratheroddpumpkinYeah the cannibal quest line mentions you having a sibling that died in an accident too

  • @SMJJproductions
    @SMJJproductions ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I feel like if you're getting inheritance from your partner's death, that qualifies you as the rightfull owner of their properties and you should be allowed to loot their body as long as you cover them in some garb and bring their body someplace sacred. I'd say the biggest sin here is just leaving uthgurds body in the field after the dragon fight rather than burying her lmao.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bring the body to the graveyard in Falkreath. The city is open to the worldmap.

  • @birisuandrei1551
    @birisuandrei1551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +573

    You really don't have to go to the Inn at the start of the game... Ralof's sister in Riverwood literally offers you to stay at her house and "take anything else you might need" she says.

    • @toe_sucker_4165
      @toe_sucker_4165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      That's coveting. New commandment came up.

    • @dennysoto1236
      @dennysoto1236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@toe_sucker_4165 But selling off his follower's belongings (equally freely given) is ok?

    • @morrigankasa570
      @morrigankasa570 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Similar to Hadvor's Uncle.

    • @hhhhhhhfjjrjrjrjrirh148
      @hhhhhhhfjjrjrjrjrirh148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@toe_sucker_4165 that's not how coveting works I want some chips rn that doesn't mean I'm coveting chips coveting is essentially jealousy or envy not just taking stuff you need

    • @GrndAdmiralThrawn
      @GrndAdmiralThrawn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Also, I feel like Ralof gives you express permission to take Gunjar’s gear. That means it not stealing.

  • @byunnybun
    @byunnybun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +370

    While the game metrics count it as you "killing" Alduin, it is greatly alluded to Alduin not actually being killed in that battle in later dialogue with the Greybeards due to his lore. That means you technically can beat Skyrim without killing!

    • @ghostsuru8429
      @ghostsuru8429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Right, I was surprised this wasn't mentioned in the video cause it's heavily hinted that Alduin will come back. But the metrics say it's a kill, so I guess he was going by that rather than by the lore.

    • @erichdegurechaff9515
      @erichdegurechaff9515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not exactly, you didnt absorbed his soul, but you dont absorb souls from humans, so killing humans isnt killing? Alduin was dead, like every other dragon before Alduin, its just that the gods can resurrect Alduin with his soul

    • @joshbalzer9749
      @joshbalzer9749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@ghostsuru8429 well, according to scripture Jesus was resurrected, but the Romans who crucified him still caused his death. Likewise, although it is hinted that Alduin will return, we certainly see his death. Besides, resurrection cannot happen unless said creature is dead.

    • @demcurvs
      @demcurvs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@erichdegurechaff9515 Alduin is Akatosh though, so it's more like destroying a manifestation. But I suppose that is similar to how Jesus is supposed to be the son of God and God at the same time. Evil dragon Jesus

    • @erichdegurechaff9515
      @erichdegurechaff9515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@demcurvs Alduin is Akatosh? Where did you saw this? No, Alduin is a creation of Akatosh, if you think they are the same, then every dragon and the dragonborn are Akatosh too

  • @mariblue72
    @mariblue72 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Around the 25:00 mark, in case anyone else wants to try this challenge: if you wan to go through the motions of finding info on Esbern, you can avoid Brynjolf altogether by talking to Keerava, thereby avoiding lying by agreeing to his task with no intention of following through.
    If you want to avoid Brynjolf's quest from triggering, I find using the blacksmith forge for a few minutes works well. He talks at you for a few minutes and then walks away, and won't approach you again, and you don't get a prompt in your quest journal.

  • @maninthecamohat2735
    @maninthecamohat2735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7724

    When your mom says you can play the game as long as you don't do anything against our religion in it:

    • @EnderGoku9001
      @EnderGoku9001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +239

      meanwhile doom players contemplating if they can kill

    • @Galaxy-rj1kj
      @Galaxy-rj1kj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +168

      @@EnderGoku9001 i mean its demons so ofc?

    • @EnderGoku9001
      @EnderGoku9001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@Galaxy-rj1kj interacting with demons tho

    • @JustBuyTheWaywardsRealms
      @JustBuyTheWaywardsRealms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@EnderGoku9001 don't we kill angel in doom eternal?

    • @hhhhhhhfjjrjrjrjrirh148
      @hhhhhhhfjjrjrjrjrirh148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +139

      @@JustBuyTheWaywardsRealms they're fallen angels which is a fancy word for demons

  • @LasherTimora
    @LasherTimora 2 ปีที่แล้ว +826

    "Thou shalt not steal."
    Welp, there goes my go to playstyle out the window.

    • @glassphoenix9095
      @glassphoenix9095 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      "thou shalt not have any gods before me. thou shalt not kill. thou shalt not steal."
      my khajiit spellsword character who has sworn her soul to like 8 different aedra/daedra and become the thieves guild master, the leader of the dark brotherhood, and a werewolf: this one thinks she may have failed step one

    • @spidergames5640
      @spidergames5640 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I’m surprised that he couldn’t just “borrow” and return the item later ya know

    • @Art3mis28
      @Art3mis28 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@glassphoenix9095 A kitty that’s also a doggy-THE ONLY RIGHT WAY TO PLAY!

    • @Art3mis28
      @Art3mis28 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@glassphoenix9095 as someone who also plays as a werewolf khajit-
      “If the men find out we can shapeshift they are going to tell the church!”

    • @glassphoenix9095
      @glassphoenix9095 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Art3mis28 YOU GET IT

  • @avriel6903
    @avriel6903 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I think the "thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's goods" is actually broken by wanting to steal them, but not being able to.

  • @benjaminharmon6541
    @benjaminharmon6541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +298

    The goblet that got you through that door was actually the Holy Grail

  • @TheKatti5000
    @TheKatti5000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    This is truly one of the most creative challenge ideas I've ever seen for any game. It's a funny concept to combine something as serious as the Christian scripture with a chaotic game like Skyrim, yet it makes for a surprisingly difficult challenge. Great video!

  • @ClaireNighten
    @ClaireNighten 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "I'm sorry saint peter, I took the dragon stone."
    "Taking a rock from a homicidal zombie isn't what I'm worried about. I'm more concerned about how you shoved someone out from cover into the line of fire of a dragon later that day."

  • @SaintGhost0794
    @SaintGhost0794 ปีที่แล้ว +677

    On a sour note, Shouts technically break one of your rules
    They may not be listed as magic but they are derived from Akatosh who is the Dragon God of Time and is the God who is in charge of the other of the Nine Divines

    • @Stejers
      @Stejers ปีที่แล้ว +100

      That is for the case if the dragonborn and dragons for normal people its a blessing of kynereth godess of wind and sky, either way you are breaking the commandment
      The whole way of the voice the greybeards preach about is that the th'um should be used as a way to worship kyne
      In many pantheons of the TES universe kyne is also the spouse of akatosh if im not mistaken
      And by going to sovengard that is heaven of another God (shor in this case) you could argue you are adoring a false god

    • @TheOtherChosenOnes
      @TheOtherChosenOnes ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He’s performing miracles obvi

    • @cosmicfails2053
      @cosmicfails2053 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@Stejers Kyne is DEFINITELY NOT akatosh's spouse
      Akatosh KILLED their spouse, Lorhkan, or Shor as he is known, (aka the god of mortality and man)

    • @Stejers
      @Stejers ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@cosmicfails2053 yeah that! I confused akatosh with lorkhan

    • @cosmicfails2053
      @cosmicfails2053 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Stejers to be fair they are both significant racial patrons and also the most referenced gods (well Lorkhan is only referenced a lot in Morrowind but shhh)
      (but for real they barely mention shor in skyrim and it's. Very upsetting)

  • @JHowOfficial
    @JHowOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +259

    "One moment. One moment. One moment. ENOUGH!" That had me dying lol

    • @lily4813ds
      @lily4813ds ปีที่แล้ว +7

      didn't even know daddy balgruuf could get snappy like that

    • @afatneckbeard5272
      @afatneckbeard5272 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lily4813ds pretty sure the "ENOUGH" is part of the conversation he was in the middle of

  • @resm-oe9ji
    @resm-oe9ji ปีที่แล้ว +30

    The ability to shout was granted to mortals by the goddess Kyne, actually. So the challenge may have been doomed from the start.

    • @chillfactory9000
      @chillfactory9000 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Not religious so sorry if this sounds stupid, but wouldn't this be less of a worshipping problem, and more of a "being born out of sin" problem? The Dovakiin can't help that they have the ability to shout.

    • @lightningrain3114
      @lightningrain3114 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@chillfactory9000Doesnt matter, its still brought on by a different god

  • @elmaster48
    @elmaster48 2 ปีที่แล้ว +205

    1:46 in a conversation with Serana she ends up asking you about your parents. There you can answer that you either miss them or say that you grew up without parents or that you never got along with them and is better that we didn’t see them in a while.

    • @ragergamer3111
      @ragergamer3111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That doesn't really count since that is DLC and not part of the main quest line

    • @ventexovakon2178
      @ventexovakon2178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Was thinking of this.

  • @zandavanrooyen5388
    @zandavanrooyen5388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    The funniest thing for me to do when playing is deliberately trying to talk to Balgruuf while he's busy and him saying "not now" over and over again.

  • @TheCloudDistrict
    @TheCloudDistrict ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One quick “WELL ACTUALLY 👆🤓“ the Dragonborn talks about his parents during the Dawnguard DLC.

  • @TtoTheTimTem
    @TtoTheTimTem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    Aerin: Fights an Ice Wraith out of nowhere*
    Aerin: Walks away and refuses to elaborate further*

  • @James11111
    @James11111 ปีที่แล้ว +392

    Couple things to note
    1: Dragons and shouts are inherently tied to Akatosh. Non-Dragonborn mortals being able to use shouts is tied to Kynareth. So they absolutely break your "no magic" rule.
    2: Killing undead and daedra would absolutely be allowed since they are inherently evil and unholy entities. Also of note, neither would actually be considered "killing". Since for the most part, undead are animated by blasphemous magic, and a daedra's "soul" is sent back to Oblivion where it regenerates after awhile, so you dont kill them, just displace them for awhile. The same could be said for Alduin.

    • @yoperson744
      @yoperson744 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Doesn’t the thou shalt not kill only refer to humans

    • @SmallAngryNerd
      @SmallAngryNerd ปีที่แล้ว +37

      ​@@yoperson744thats what I was thinking too. Like you can definitely still kill a cow

    • @emptycradle1304
      @emptycradle1304 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Since we cannot tell what the soul actually does anything with sentience like us may also have a soul in which case murder would apply...

    • @simple-shawn
      @simple-shawn ปีที่แล้ว +10

      For the 1. I agree for it... Almost
      Let me explain : Akatosh gave the Dragons the ability to shout, since they're kinda the dragon's parent, shouts that dragon make are from Akatosh, though the Dragonborn can learn them
      Shouts like Unrelenting Force, Ethereal Corpse , Slow Time, Whirlwind Sprint are coming from Kyne, by the way of meditation
      HOWEVER, there are shouts that are neither from Kyne nor from Akatosh, those are : Call Heroes, Summon Odahviing/Durnehviir, and the famous Dragonrend.
      The summons are just people spirits hearing you calling them via your thu'um
      And the dragonrend has been done by meticulous research, not meditation, by the 3 heroes, the greybeards even say that dragonrend is an insult to the thu'um, that you shouldn't use it.

    • @niquitobonito
      @niquitobonito ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I would also say that there are animist in Skyrim that do worship the dragons(like the dragon priests...) so even then that's still using magic tied to worship of a false idol

  • @trustytrest
    @trustytrest ปีที่แล้ว +673

    The sheer amount of "WELL ACKSHUALLY 🤓" in this comment section is staggering.

    • @UzumakiVentus
      @UzumakiVentus ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I won't look cause, I'm not a "WeLl AcKsHuAlY" Christian.

    • @UzumakiVentus
      @UzumakiVentus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did you not hear him say," I am a Christian myself"?

    • @UzumakiVentus
      @UzumakiVentus ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I didn't finish my last scentance
      But the basic run down is that he and I are not experts in the Bible, so we should not get mocked for differences in culture and beliefs in what day the Sabbath is.

    • @user-sf9gs2pg1b
      @user-sf9gs2pg1b ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I find it all fun to read all of those comments, but to each their own.

    • @Wargulf2838
      @Wargulf2838 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i think it's made for fun and not necessarily as a religious proof of concept. thus i'm gonna just enjoy the show and have lighthearted fun.

  • @maninthecamohat2735
    @maninthecamohat2735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +618

    Next you need to play GTA v without breaking the ten commandments.

    • @TheReconJacob
      @TheReconJacob  2 ปีที่แล้ว +296

      If I ever get round to trying that challenge, you'll know I truly lost my marbles.

    • @maninthecamohat2735
      @maninthecamohat2735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@TheReconJacob
      Ha

    • @6aphomeh
      @6aphomeh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      don't do it, watch darkviperau's pacifist series and you'll see why

    • @theninjas2870
      @theninjas2870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The game starts with a heist. I would be impressed if you could get control of Franklin without break a commandment.

    • @flipflopzthreeonethree1873
      @flipflopzthreeonethree1873 ปีที่แล้ว

      InControlAgain has a video called "A Crimeless Playthrough of GTA Online" that has similar vibes lol

  • @CanisMythson
    @CanisMythson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +195

    the hilarity of Aeren showing up randomly around Mjoll is always entertaining

  • @snowflakeserpert6834
    @snowflakeserpert6834 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    See this, THIS is how to be a Christian, do silly things with it and just have fun, not get offended whenever anyone has a slightly different view from you. As someone who's dealt a lot with the folks who like to use Christianity as an excuse to be cruel and prejudiced to others, I thank you dearly for this grand ol time!!!

  • @azearaazymoto461
    @azearaazymoto461 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    You could be considered to have pased based on two technicalities. As I recall, Alduin is actually immortal and isn't dead, but only delayed (he's the destroyer of worlds and will eventually return to end this kalpa, as I understood it). It's also worth considering the draugr has no will, so the dragonstone is ownerless once its keeper dies. In real life, when you die without a will, spouse, next-of-kin, or clear descendant, you cede control to the state, so the Jarl would have the right to decide what to do with the tablet.

    • @derpeth2101
      @derpeth2101 ปีที่แล้ว

      Besides, self defense is not murder.

    • @azearaazymoto461
      @azearaazymoto461 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@derpeth2101 He already said that, he just wanted to make things more challenging.

    • @wozaow
      @wozaow ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really, though, as shouts are given power by a dragon god, if I'm not mistaken.

  • @stefannilsson2406
    @stefannilsson2406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    18:14 Lydia and Uthgerd are protected. Only the player can kill them if they are following the player. When you dismiss them they lose the protection until you make them follow you again.

    • @nahte-
      @nahte- ปีที่แล้ว +5

      not true. i have had lydia die multiple times while she was following me.

    • @stefannilsson2406
      @stefannilsson2406 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nahte- Then don't accidentally hit her. If you use the resurrect command on her when she is dead she will probably be very mad at you. Meaning you hit her and killed her without noticing.

    • @fuster6263
      @fuster6263 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sadly jzargos scrolls killed my Lydia

    • @stefannilsson2406
      @stefannilsson2406 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fuster6263 F

  • @mateuszdabrowski7078
    @mateuszdabrowski7078 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awsome video mate ,i love the quote "thy shall not stab in the back even if it would kill them by now" xD , love the idea of that challenge , once again awesome work

  • @damian6660
    @damian6660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Skyrim: Ned Flanders edition.

  • @ItsBodin
    @ItsBodin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +380

    Dude amazing content including the fact about “thou shall not kill”. The tradition translation is actually “thou shall not murder” so self defense is allowed so is killing in military service. Instead of going with this you took it literally and made it more of a challenge! Awesome video!

    • @2shadesofgray752
      @2shadesofgray752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Capital punishment is also allowed

    • @akechijubeimitsuhide
      @akechijubeimitsuhide 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Also, I suppose it only applies to humans (or in this case, humanoid NPCs/enemies). Animals don't count. Dragons are still a grey area since they can talk.

    • @ItsBodin
      @ItsBodin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@akechijubeimitsuhide i would agree to that as well, since god did give us “dominion” over the earth!

    • @akechijubeimitsuhide
      @akechijubeimitsuhide 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ItsBodin I'm a heathen but you do you

    • @ItsBodin
      @ItsBodin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@akechijubeimitsuhide funny enough I just went from non practicing christian to pagan 😂

  • @JarvisBaileyVA
    @JarvisBaileyVA ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Regardless of whatever I may feel about religion and its practices, this is a very good and entertaining video. I've seen many a Skyrim challenge video and this one is definitely one of my favorites. I hope you continue making content like this.

  • @gachilhan
    @gachilhan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +390

    This video is a hidden gem for sure

    • @hydrowolf1
      @hydrowolf1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was now all can see it in its glory

  • @bytheeight5636
    @bytheeight5636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    31:40 excellent point about serving one faction and neglecting another. as Matthew 6,24 says, "No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other, Ye cannot serve God and mammon." keep up the great work, Brother

  • @BeekillerJohanna
    @BeekillerJohanna ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember watching a no-kill playthrough that used shield bash for beating Alduin. There's a special shield that causes a bleed effect, and letting the bleed effect kill Alduin makes it not show up in your kill stats.

  • @stephalloplayz
    @stephalloplayz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    "She does a good job at speeding up the process of killing the dragon"
    Sadly, in doing so she also sped up her life

  • @boopinoop4545
    @boopinoop4545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    I’m pretty sure the reason Aeren showed randomly is because his path finding AI is set to follow Mjol, and sometimes it glitches and has him appear randomly when she is following you

    • @edgreen2660
      @edgreen2660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Yes, and it gets worse. Every time I've married Mjoll, Aeren moved in with us.

    • @brandonfrancis1941
      @brandonfrancis1941 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@edgreen2660 He's not essential ;)

    • @brandonfrancis1941
      @brandonfrancis1941 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I was in black reach once with Mjoll and I see, in the distance, Aerin fighting a chaurus.

    • @edgreen2660
      @edgreen2660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@brandonfrancis1941, I understand if you're married to Mjoll, and you kill Aerin, she gets mad at you.
      However, I've also heard that you can cast fury on her, and she'll do it.

  • @Janoha17
    @Janoha17 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There are actually two places where the Dragonborn can mention parents/family: Talking to Serana in Valerica's lab during the Dawnguard questline, and talking to Braig during No One Escapes Cidhna Mine.

  • @Houndnwolf
    @Houndnwolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I’m sorry, while you were laying down the rules for the challenge, the bread on your plate was trying to escape and I couldn’t look away.

  • @darthbiker2311
    @darthbiker2311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    Regarding not stealing, I remember my first playthrough 10 years ago when I had to help clear out monsters from some NPC's family crypt. I started picking up potions I found lying around and he immediately shouted something about how the items belonged to his family.

    • @loomhigh
      @loomhigh ปีที่แล้ว +17

      goldir my beloved

  • @estherclawson6876
    @estherclawson6876 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    This cracked me up. Thanks for making it, man. I always feel a little guilty at certain parts, and I can't play as vampire because I feel like it's too abusive to others in the game. I use werewolf ism as a way to not contract vampirism but otherwise do very little with it, because it feels like the daedra are pretenders and not worthy of worship. Funny how religious upbringing colors our lives in the oddest ways.

    • @seand.g423
      @seand.g423 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean... it's also a pretty good way to get close(ish) to a town faster while "overencumbered"...

    • @willow_rayne6678
      @willow_rayne6678 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I also use the werewolf-ism to keep from contracting vampirism. Other than that, I don't use it. I did, however, only use it once and that was to get a certain quest done because for some reason, I simply could NOT get through it. I had my follower and Gogh wait at the entrance, then went in, transformed, and came back out like "ready to go?" I like to imagine what kind of responses I'd receive... such as the follower hearing all of these noises coming from inside, then I walk out like, "let's go!" lol But I absolutely agree with what you said.

  • @rexanderson4585
    @rexanderson4585 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    I'm surprised you didn't use the starting gold to buy an axe sense in white run The innkeeper will buy chopped wood from you and even asks you to chop it if you ask

    • @GrndAdmiralThrawn
      @GrndAdmiralThrawn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Also, he could have bought some leather and made leather armor to use instead of hide

    • @Emil_Stoltz
      @Emil_Stoltz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Technically that's stealing as well because you're taking someone else's wood

    • @michaelburke9137
      @michaelburke9137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      If they asked you to chop the wood it wouldn't be.

    • @jackturner1352
      @jackturner1352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@Emil_Stoltz
      They ask you to chop it for them, and get paid for it. Employment is not stealing lol.

  • @etcetera1995
    @etcetera1995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    About the Dragon Stone: you're basically acting as an archaeologist for the Jarl's court mage. You're not just acting under orders, you're also recovering an artifact from a historical site for study by a scholar.

    • @Malhaloc
      @Malhaloc ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It would depend on laws of the land. Because the dragon wall is basically a will that grants the draugr the dragon stone tablet as property, the city of Whiterun and the nation of Skyrim would have to decide whether or not the dead could legally own property or if the will is legally null and void. In all likelihood, taking it would not be against any laws of Skyrim or Whiterun.

    • @magica3526
      @magica3526 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      amateur archaeology is no different from grave robbing. This is not archaeology. No attempt to record the situation of the artifact, no research on it at all. It's grave robbing, plain and simple

    • @joemama-zm4de
      @joemama-zm4de ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@magica3526 'no research on it at all' uh, no? delphine explicitly states that research on the dragon tablet leads to the map of the graves of dragons. and it wouldn't be the dragonborn's job to write these things down.
      it's, like... basically plainly stated that farengar is researching the dragon map for delphine, which leads to the map of the dragon graves, and the second encounter with alduin.

    • @magica3526
      @magica3526 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joemama-zm4de but as a map, not as a cultural artifact

    • @joemama-zm4de
      @joemama-zm4de ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@magica3526 my brother / sister / sibling in christ.
      THE CULTURAL ARTIFACT IS JUST A MAP.
      IT AIN'T THAT DEEP.

  • @Kevin-jb2pv
    @Kevin-jb2pv ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is so much more impressive than that pacifist run video that came out a while back. His is still impressive, but the fact that you didn't just go by the in game kill counter (as well as all the other restrictions) makes this run _WAY_ more difficult. Good job.

  • @TheKnifeRaven
    @TheKnifeRaven 2 ปีที่แล้ว +268

    I came up with the idea of doing this in D&D. No breaking the 10 Commandments.
    My friends think I'm insane.
    They're right.

    • @Hunter_Kennedy1
      @Hunter_Kennedy1 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That would be so painful. Most fun I’ve ever had in D&D is making the most ridiculous character possible and being as insane as possible lol

    • @jennifercameron8859
      @jennifercameron8859 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My D&D character is a vampire that doesn’t like hurting people. I’m having a hard time XD

    • @Bandopede
      @Bandopede ปีที่แล้ว

      It really SHOULDN'T be that hard, but people play D&D like such dolts 😂 commit crimes with impunity and if you show ANY apprehension, you're holding up the game. And God forbid the DM actually try to punish them for it, suddenly the whole group can agree on something.

    • @mrcopycat2355
      @mrcopycat2355 ปีที่แล้ว

      I found the only person who would like Book Of Exalted Deeds

  • @MaidofRage420
    @MaidofRage420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Personally one of the most interesting "Can you beat" videos in awhile

  • @foheadeats2558
    @foheadeats2558 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I played this game so much with so many replays but somehow didn’t notice the person guiding you in the beginning can be two different people

  • @dima_keller
    @dima_keller 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    If you went with Hadvar you could've taken items from the chest since it belongs to the Empire and you were ordered by an empirial officer to take it
    Could've taken Loot from Gerdur and her house since she offers it's not stealing
    You can finish a quest in Riverwood and get Faendal as a follower without lying
    Also you can smith. All you need is a permission to use a forge, which isn't a problem and some ores which you can gather yourself. Same goes for Alchemy, but I don't know if it's connected to any "false gods" lol
    Another thing that might be useful is "Become ethereal" shout, but I don't remember where it is, so it might not be worth the trouble

    • @Draezeth
      @Draezeth ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Additionally: Shouts are a gift of Kyne (depending of which version of the legend you believe), so shouting shouldn't be allowed in this run. Killing also in no way applies to animals.

    • @James11111
      @James11111 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Alchemy is definitely disputable for this, as really it's just chemistry.
      I think it's use should revolve around what ingredients are used. Like if you use some plants to make a healing potion, that's fine. But say something like a daedra heart? Probably not.

    • @dima_keller
      @dima_keller ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@DraezethI think it only applies to normal people and not Dragonborn, but Dragonborn's sole existence is basically a gift of Akatosh, so it doesn't change much

  • @lostliberty9913
    @lostliberty9913 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    This guy is so wholesome.

  • @nightspicer
    @nightspicer ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm pretty sure that "thou shall not kill" is more so that you can't murder someone rather than just kill. So in case of the wolves for example, when they were attacking you, you could kill them as that would be you simply defending yourself.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And I'm pretty sure the commandment is aimed at people. (Animals can fall under the " not covetthy neighbors slaves, animals or anything of thy neighbor")
      So wild beasts that are not part of anyone's property would be okay. And they probably fall under the age old past time of hunting anyway.
      And there are a couple crimes "worthy of death" which include murder. So killing a murderer is explicitly allowed. Even more explicit since that's exactly what Moses ordered when he came back from the mountain with the commandments. So pretty much the first "governmental" act after enacting the rules was killing.

    • @shadowrose8907
      @shadowrose8907 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's more than even that; more than hunting being a "pastime," it's both necessary to live (I'm not going to have a debate about veganism) and explicitly condoned in Genesis, when man was given dominion over the beasts of the earth. Additionally, not only is "thou shalt not kill" more accurately translated as "thou shalt not murder," which I thought had been known for years now, there are occasions in the Old Testament where God actually commands that someone be killed.@@HappyBeezerStudios

  • @eleanorburnham3713
    @eleanorburnham3713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Absolute wholesome Christian content, I love it!!

  • @MuchWhittering
    @MuchWhittering ปีที่แล้ว +8

    FYI, if you play as an Altmer and wear Thalmor robes, you can just walk through the Embassy without sneaking.

  • @khajiitimanus7432
    @khajiitimanus7432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Notes made before watching:
    • Others have already pointed out that the dragonblood inherited by the many dragonborn/dovahkiin is a gift from Akatosh, thus nullifying the run by default.
    • However, I want to also point out that, because Akatosh is the god of dragons and is considered the father of all dragons, the Thu'um is a byproduct of Akatosh - therefore making Shouts impossible even if the player weren't Dragonborn. Kynareth is also credited for the Thu'um, but I do not recall how so.
    • Even if you could commit sins in the run, many are related to various daedric princes, who are considered deities. Some are connected to the aedric divines, even....
    Thievery? Nocturnal. Murder? Sithis, Mephala, Boethia. Purging undead? Meridia, Stendarr, Arkay. Destruction and fire? Mehrunes Dagon. Cheating, greed, envy? Clavicus Vile. Adultery? Sanguine. Hunting? Hircine. Being an orc? Malacath. Being a dunmer? Azura. There's a lot connected to various deities in Elder Scrolls....
    Notes made during watching:
    • However, the topic of purging undead is interesting, actually. They're already dead, so is it really "killing" them to defeat them? Does the act being associated with so many other deities make it invalid anyway? Personally, I'd rule that, as long as it is a _reanimated_ body, it does not qualify as alive, and thus cannot be "killed" - draugr, dragon priests, skeletons, and reanimated bodies are all safe then. Vampires still qualify as alive, though.
    • Concerning Helgen: As another has said, taking the imperial armor when siding with Hadvar should be valid. Because Hadvar is the only imperial soldier present, he is thus the acting officer. His command to "find some gear" stands for permission to take the imperial armor.
    • Concerning the Thalmor Embassy: You do not need to learn a spell, and you don't have to kill. You could just get a frenzy poison and let them go at it that way. This might cause you to get statistically credited for the death, but you did not perform the act itself - you might have induced it to be done, but you didn't perform it. It's a stretch, but it works.
    Notes made after watching:
    • One person brought up an interesting point about law and the draugr that you 'stole' the Dragonstone from. Technically speaking, and depending on the types of laws in Skyrim, because the Draugr Overlord is a corpse with no known familial ties, its personal affects would be turned over the the local governing body. Therefore, the Dragonstone technically belongs to Whiterun, and you were commissioned to retrieve it. It's only a technicality though....

    • @happytofu5
      @happytofu5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think there is a mod which lets you start not being the dragonborn. I don't know if playing with mods counts though.

    • @Malhaloc
      @Malhaloc ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@happytofu5 It may let you start away from Helgen, but if you go through the story, you are the dragonborn.

    • @lumisussy
      @lumisussy ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Shouts were also gifted to Men by Kynareth

    • @khajiitimanus7432
      @khajiitimanus7432 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lumisussy Now, see, the issue with this is that I heard Paarthurnax was the one to teach the Thu'um to mortals, so I'm just confused.

    • @MightyDantheman
      @MightyDantheman ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think the commandments should've been applied as "in-universe". However, even then, technically all of the divines (and really all of reality) are false, due to only being a dream of the Godhead.

  • @FeCyrineu
    @FeCyrineu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Actually, there is a single conversation where it is estabilished that the Dragonborn has parents. It happens if you talk to Serana at the vampire castle basement and she asks what happend to the dragonborn's family. You can tell them they're fine, that they're dead or that you don't care. Saying the last one would break commandment V, so keep that in mind if you ever take this challenge to the vampire questline.

  • @mateofreigenedo
    @mateofreigenedo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Technicaly you can disrespect your mother and father. There is one line of dialogue with Serana when you ask her about her family. After talking to you she will ask you about YOUR family. You can tell her that you miss them, that they're dead, or that you are no longer talk to each other

  • @eloquentlyemma
    @eloquentlyemma ปีที่แล้ว +118

    I like this challenge. It’s a nice way of playing and it makes it interesting.
    Edit: I’d personally consider animals, monsters and undead as fair game for the “no killing” rule, but I’d personally feel that having a companion do the killing instead as a bit of a grey area… ok… now you’ve explained your reasoning. That’s cool🙂
    Edit 2: re. Stabbing greybeards to level up: ahh, the Batman solution…

    • @HeartlandHunny
      @HeartlandHunny ปีที่แล้ว +7

      “The Batman solution” 😂😂😂

  • @shadowravenraz1748
    @shadowravenraz1748 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Not gonna lie, my brain broke and my right eye started twitching uncontrollably when you complied with the thief. Good job, this was very entertaining! 👍

  • @ArimasVR
    @ArimasVR ปีที่แล้ว +2

    24:30 Started off trying to beat the game without breaking the ten commandments and ends up discovering a Thalmor Embassy speedrun

  • @Grey_3708
    @Grey_3708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    If you talk to Carlotta, you can fight Mikael in the tavern. Talk to Uthgerd and it'll register the brawl between you and Mikael as between you and her. If you're even somewhat lucky, you can do this several times before it "breaks" and you can get quite a bit of gold for just starting out. I always do this on every playthrough.

  • @alinavuong1117
    @alinavuong1117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    So much thought and effort went into this challenge to create something great. Incredibly well done and I’m glad I got to witness it!

  • @jordangolden8159
    @jordangolden8159 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Shouts were given to human by Akatosh.

  • @FieldEmperor
    @FieldEmperor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Genuinely unique and entertaining idea. This was amazing.

  • @argatar
    @argatar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    This was a great video. I have never enjoyed a random sub 1k view yt reccomendation as much as this. Top level work

  • @YourDapper1
    @YourDapper1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thank you for the disclaimer my friend I doubt anyone would have thought you were being rude or making a joke of those religions but it was a kind thing of you to do

  • @ashibii
    @ashibii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    During the quest where you and Serana go under castle volkihar, there is actually a dialogue option where Serana asks you about your parents, and you can reply in a few different ways. Whichever one you said also dictates some dialogue she says to you later on about your parents.

  • @testedTransgressor
    @testedTransgressor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    Yes, it's pronounced like M-yoll
    Names of Skyrim Nords are mostly taken from Old Norse, so the pronunciation transfers with them. A letter J preceded by a consonant is pronounced as a Y.
    Njada Stone-Arm = Nyada Stone-Arm
    Brynjolf = Brynyolf
    Mjoll = Myoll
    Etc
    Great work, very engaging!

    • @xThemFatalex
      @xThemFatalex ปีที่แล้ว +10

      it's actually not just "old Norse", current Nordic languages like Finnish still pronounce J like Y 🇫🇮

    • @Софија-крафт
      @Софија-крафт ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@xThemFatalex finnish is not nordic it's baltic, Slavic languages do this too

    • @Lamelija
      @Lamelija ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Софија-крафт a quick google search says otherwise. there are currently only 2 baltic languages in the world: Lithuanian and Latvian. Finnish is a Nordic language.

    • @Софија-крафт
      @Софија-крафт ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Lamelija "finnish is part of the finno urgic family" 😂

    • @Софија-крафт
      @Софија-крафт ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lamelija not even Indo European Nordic languages are tho

  • @moralityisnotsubjective5
    @moralityisnotsubjective5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    For future reference in Nordic and other Germanic languages a J is pronounce as a Y sound so the word yes is Ja pronounced Ya. Mjoll would be My-oll and Jurgen would be Yurgen.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios ปีที่แล้ว

      AS bilingual that only confuses me more. Should I read them in english and pronounce them in english or just go with my native?

    • @moralityisnotsubjective5
      @moralityisnotsubjective5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HappyBeezerStudios I suppose it's up to you. They are your names so I guess if you wanted to just pronounce them in your native language no one could fault you. I pronounce them that way because that is how they are pronounced in the language(s) of their origin. I do the same for words in other languages that I am familiar with. To me it's just more accurate.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios ปีที่แล้ว

      @@moralityisnotsubjective5 I guess Caesar will stay a IVLIVS then and not a Julius

  • @shannon4991
    @shannon4991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Your commitment to this challenge was admirable! Also, your narration is entertaining and was very informational and helpful alongside the editing. Great video!

    • @derpeth2101
      @derpeth2101 ปีที่แล้ว

      He broke the Don't kill commandment multiple times. Telling someone else to kill for you doesn't absolve you.

  • @icecoldgazpacho
    @icecoldgazpacho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I noticed you’re using the simpsons hit and run music, nice 😂😂
    Also yes, “you can’t kill, those already dead” - solid line from one of my favourite Metalcore songs 😂

  • @berpyderpy9301
    @berpyderpy9301 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This has to be the most absurd and creative Skyrim challenge ever

  • @nathanbritt5515
    @nathanbritt5515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    This is the best Skyrim challenge video I've ever seen and I love how you remained true to your faith while attempting this challenge! I too am a Christian and have tried "Christian character challenges"(not specifically 10 commandments) for both Skyrim and Fallout 4. Even though Fallout 4 has more profanity, gore, and the optional potential for implied sexual encounters, I actually found it far easier to be a Christian there than in Skyrim since it takes place in our world instead of a false world made by false gods like Skyrim. I would love to see this challenge brought to life in fallout 4, I think the not killing is actually possible there, but the character can use God's name in vain so that'd be a new obstacle to avoid.

    • @dima_keller
      @dima_keller 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think it might be impossible because of character saying stuff like "Oh, God!" reacting to some events including leaving the vault for the first time
      This counts right?

    • @nathanbritt5515
      @nathanbritt5515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dima_keller ya something like that would count and I don't expect it to be possible, but it'd be really interesting to see him go out of his way to avoid it as best as possible since no one else has tried it. I think there are also some instances where the characters gender makes a difference. Heck, maybe he could change the language to one that doesn't use God's name in vain at times which could make it possible again, who knows?🤔

    • @Zorae42
      @Zorae42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nathanbritt5515 I mean, if you want to go into technicalities, I'm pretty sure saying "Oh, God" isn't really what is meant by that commandment. And that it refers more to cursing God directly, making false promises under the name of God, or lying about God speaking to you and whatnot.

  • @jakersrule7267
    @jakersrule7267 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shouts are tricky. By your rules they are fine, but in lore, The Greybeards explain that Dragonborns are able to shout naturally because of a gift from Akatosh

  • @imkurisuchan
    @imkurisuchan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    This might be the best Skyrim video I've seen in a while. As a Christian myself I really enjoyed this

  • @marshallm0992
    @marshallm0992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Aeren's scripting makes it to where he follows Mjoll around all the time, like a lost puppy dog. There is no code in this script to stop this even when Mjoll is your follower, or even your wife, so marrying Mjoll is a two for one deal and Aeren will just be chilling around your house with her.

  • @unknowngamer37415
    @unknowngamer37415 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Technically speaking shouts are related to the dragon/time God and as the dragonborn you are their champion.
    Seeing as multiple shots are required to progress the story I don't think you could help it anyway.

  • @katherinebot
    @katherinebot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    For the issue in the Thalmor Embassy, you could’ve used poisons of Frenzy to cause the enemies to fight one another. As long as you only stab them once with a weapon, you didn’t kill them. I’m not sure if it would count towards the statistics, but it would be something to look at if you ever wanna revisit this for something like a DLC or Oblivion

    • @AJ-ri5ee
      @AJ-ri5ee ปีที่แล้ว +22

      In 1 Samuel, God "confuses" the Philistines, causing them to fight amongst themselves, securing the victory for Jonathan and the Israelites. So, I'd say frenzy could be biblical 😆

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@AJ-ri5ee would reverse pickpocketing count as stealing? putting the poison in their pocket wouldn't even involve hitting them, so that sounds like fair game

    • @LibraritheWizardOfficial
      @LibraritheWizardOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HappyBeezerStudios You would need a lot of gold to pay a trainer for Pickpocket, since you can't actually steal items to level up the skill for the Poisoner perk. But considering one Pickpocket trainer is an actual beggar, it would also count as the very Christian act of giving to charity, I guess?

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LibraritheWizardOfficial now I'm reminded of poisoned apples in Oblivion. you'd just leave them lying around and the npcs would grab them by themselves. not your fault

  • @coreyeverett5500
    @coreyeverett5500 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Commandment five actually has at least one very, VERY limited way to break it. Serana asks about your parents in the Dawnguard DLC. It's possible to say "We didn't really get along. It's best that I haven't seen them in a while.", which probably does it.

  • @jojol.2630
    @jojol.2630 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    5:13 I kept hearing “when going inside of Ralof”

  • @kathleenw6984
    @kathleenw6984 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I bet playing as an imperial would be useful for this because they have the Voice if the Emperor ability to calm enemies

  • @blastification2
    @blastification2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    As soon as you mentioned that you were taking a strict interpretation of not killing, I knew it would be impossible. I've seen a lot of Skyrim challenges before, and Alduin ruins many of them.

  • @tobiasGR3Y
    @tobiasGR3Y ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:06. Ahh, The Horse of Judgement. You have returned to us.

  • @johnbailey8103
    @johnbailey8103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    In Skyrim special edition, Aerin randomly will show up if your follower is Mjoll, bc his pathing is normally just "follow Mjoll everywhere" unless she's your follower, but his pathing while she's your follower is broken in SE
    Todd Howard: "it just works"

    • @TheReconJacob
      @TheReconJacob  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thank you for providing an answer to this haha

  • @Spiketrooper
    @Spiketrooper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    You actually can make your own history regarding your relationship to your parents when Serana asks you about your relationship to your parents and you have some options about it. You can actually say "I love them both very much and hope to see them again soon" or something like that, honoring thy parents.
    So technically you shouldn't have removed that rule

  • @dumbsterdives
    @dumbsterdives ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There is exactly one situation in the entire game where you could potentially break the commandment to honor thy father and mother. In a conversation with Serana about her family, she asks about the Dragonborn's parents and you're given a few options to establish your character's relationship with them. This doesn't really change anything considering the dialogue is completely optional and I'm writing this so early into the video that I don't even know if you're doing Dawnguard.

  • @rismyth1
    @rismyth1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    After the - look up pronunciation of Mjoll bit - the everytime a new name came up just had me rolling. It was awesome. Very entertaining. Thank you.

  • @ZzX010
    @ZzX010 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I have a couple questions regarding the diamond claw and "killing" draugr:
    1 Does "killing" the undead actually count as killing because they aren't living, ie. can you kill something that is already dead?
    2 Is taking the diamond claw, using it to open the door, and returning it to the draugr stealing or merely borrowing?

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I would consider it borrowing if you intend to return it from the beginning and there is nobody you could ask that would refuse.
      And slaying the undead is probably even a positive thing. To follow with the ten commandments idea, they would either be corrupted by evil and an abomination in the eyes of the lord or technically dead and should remain dead. In both cases putting them down would be the rightful thing to do.

  • @PutYoRhymeOn
    @PutYoRhymeOn ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This is such a great concept of a challenge and I've never seen such a thing in all the years Skyrim has been out. Fellow Christian man to another, props to you my friend. Might I add that maybe Shouts can be the equivalent of having the 'gift of Tongues.' Enjoying the video :)