Some people just go super try hard like every practice is a competition, but they aren’t learning anything. Higher belts want to take it easy in order to practice aspects of their game.
The risk with avoiding rolls with someone who taps everyone is eventually that person doesnt feel welcomed and will most likely feel the need to find another gym, then a great training partner is lost.
I was one of those blue belts at a previous attendance based Gracie affiliate gym and I ended up getting kicked out by the head instructor for it. In my case, I rolled safe with everyone and never cranked any submissions or did any crazy aggressive scrambles but I enjoyed Jiu Jitsu enough that I studied BJJ Fanatics, Gordon Ryan, Craig Jones, Lachlan Giles, etc. and was able to use the techniques I learned to pass the guard and catch many submissions on people who were higher rank than me to the point people thought I was cross training at other gyms which I wasn’t but cross training was not encouraged at this gym (one student even got in trouble for bringing other students to an open mat and he was later kicked out of the school). I eventually had a roll with the head instructor where we were training no gi and I caught him in a few heel hooks and instead of congratulating me or being encouraging to me as his student, it was just kind of an awkward silence. I just kept it to myself but felt almost like I was in trouble. 2 weeks later my head coach pulled me aside and confirmed to me I was being kicked out of the school. He told me I wasn’t a fit for the culture and the school was a school for beginners and basics, and there were students who were complaining about rolling with me but he did not say it was safety related and said other gyms would love to have me. I went to another school who was more than happy to have me and when people rolled with me, they were very happy with my technique and I was promoted to purple belt not long after and now I am an assistant instructor there. So really just goes to show culture in schools make such a huge difference.
Honestly sounds like a fair interaction. “Hey this school is really just for beginners and basics, these other schools in town would love to have you and I think you’d probably be happier there too.” And you were! Sounds like a win all around.
New PB, oldest guy in gym, average sized. Athletic for my age, i.e. move faster/stronger than expected, but guess what? Tap all the time. Am I getting better? Slowly over time. How does one learn to be better? Keep rolling with the person who taps you out (man, or woman). It's a submission sport, not The Equalizer... embracing humility is the foundation of martial arts. I am so much better than ever, and also much more aware of how dangerous some people are. Have fun! Celebrate their skills and ability like a sportsman❤
blue belt here. ive tapped a few black belts. thanks Danaher lol. these days i prefer to drill and just flow roll. not trying to get hurt or injure anyone. its just a hobby
It seems unlikely that you’ve tapped a black belt at blue with similar size/gender/age. Sometimes higher level players let you work but comp speed, one of you is at the wrong belt. You should know this at blue.
I’m a purple belt and my favorite guy to roll with is a blue belt I’m 47 he’s in his 30s we are very close in our rolls and he definitely will tap me from time to time or I’ll get slightly out positioned he’s a challenge and we learn a lot from each other maybe I don’t care cause there is definitely not much ego at our gym thank God
We have a guy that is phenomenal-he took Silver and blue competition when he was a white belt. I’m a three striped blue belt and he smokes me all the time. He is younger, but is actually very smooth and technical. I don’t mind rolling with him at all, even though he dominates me. I do think it is a real thing, however that the belts and stripes get in the way in regards to ego. It’s important to roll with everybody and belts are not absolute .
It would soooooo cool if that white belt was also commenting on this thread. I don’t want a blue belt. I want to sandbag for at least the next five years. New belt = new problems.
1) I don’t think a white belt (someone new) has much credibility to say “no one wants to roll with him because he taps everyone.” 2) If this is true, he’s at the wrong belt.
Agree with you, it's happen sometimes in my academy but when the spatz feels the difference they leave quickly...train hard not equal to train without brain, you can be intense but avoiding to hurt people or even competitor risk to have frequent injuries and can't attend tournaments ...
I'm a white belt, but I have always practiced martial arts and bodybuilding. In BJJ, I can use my knowledge and athleticism to beat upper belts, but I noticed I don't learn anything when I do that. Now, I try to only use technique and upper belts beat me, but I learn more.
Promoting peole at the right time, when they re ready for the belt, would also minimize that kind of problems. I remember myself struggling to find partners in the higher ranks as a white belt after 2 years of training because I was too good for a white belt. That was frustrating. We can tell what we want about putting our ego aside etc.. but no purple brown or black belt likes to get tapped by a white belt. I'm a purple belt myself, and I tap to white belts only because I give them positions to make them work and to work on my escapes. It never happened to me that I roll with a white belt that dominates me but I understand it would be frustrating. In my case, getting my blue belt at the time was a release jut because of that. suddenly people were way more comfortable with the idea of loosing which I completely understand as well. When someone's too good for his belt, jut promote him and don't make him wait for the sake of it...
You say 'at my school, the problem students leave on their own, we don't even need to tell them to go!'. And when you say that, I imagine that, what is actually happening is that Hana is taking these people aside in private and hissing at them "if you do not cancel your membership and never come back we are going to have a PROBLEM. And that's going to be bad for everyone. ESPECIALLY you. And we don't want that, do we?" hahahaha
As a 48 yr old black belt, I get attacked daily by all belts. As long as they are safe, then I don't care who taps me. I let everyone work their moves on me, some I'm able to get out of, and some I don't. You get to learn great defense. If someone is going too hard, I try to explain that he should slow down a bit. If they continue going too hard, then we roll hard🤷♂️🤷♂️
His level is actually not a blue belt anymore, maybe his level is equivalent to a purple belt or maybe a brown belt. but maybe because of some condition he didn't advance to belt level
This blue belt, 5.4 160, 22 yrs judo brown belt no one wants to roll with cause he does some high level judo throws and huts people with throws. The other, his partner, a decade experience catch guy, hurts all students, and the other one blue also, 6.3, 220, hurts all students and eventually sits on the side line cause no one to roll with. I picked everyone of em and roll with em, after a few months, they couldnt tap me. Why ? I got in to play where they were at their weakest game grappling wise. I had to dive deep , plunge strainght blast through em never giving em time to think about their fav game. I went ape shit, balls to the walls and it worked. My freestyle and greco background helped me a lot.
Seems to me if a blue belt is submitting higher belts on a regular basis, that blue belt deserves to be promoted to purple belt. Isn't that what belts are for?
Exactly, he should be promoted to his appropriate level. Problem solved. There are far too many blue belts, especially young people who have grappled for a long time that are sandbagged by their coaches. They should likely be wearing brown belts. The problem I see in this sport is that the old archaic culture in many instances hasn’t caught up with the times and availability of information. Committed people advance much more quickly now.
@@SeaOrcRonnie I agree! My son is 12 and has been doing jiu jitsu since he was 5. When he turns 16, he will most definitely be a blue belt. But I bet an individual who started jiu jitsu as an adult and was a blue belt would be helpless against him, assuming they are in the same weight class. Kids learn so fast and they have the right mind set - jiu jitsu is fun and they get to make a lot of great friends.
Thanks for the response, yes your son will absolutely dismantle everyone, mine turned 18 this year and is truly one of the best out there, still wearing a blue belt, he submits everyone in the gym including all of the black belts, has a dynamic game from top to bottom. There are special people out there with incredibly high IQ’s that find there way into this art/sport. When people see it in action it almost makes them short circuit. You can see it in their face, how can this kid just wipe the floor with everyone!?!? It’s fun to watch.
I’m being hyperbolic but What if he only knows like 6 technique’s or wins a lot because he’s 240 lbs in shape ( even good black belts who weigh 130-140 will have some trouble with a guy like that ) ? There’s more to jiu jitsu grading then winning training rolls - don’t get me wrong its extremely important n the coach should consider it but there’s a bit more then just winning. Technical knowledge and experience is also important Also I’ll admit coaches are insanely reluctant to promote people or have some sort of scheduled grading
@@user-vc6 If he's tapping everyone out at the gym the next thing is competition if he's also doing it in competition then he has reached his plateau gotta move him up obviously he has a knowledge and skill level. BJ Penn became a black belt in 3 years under Renzo Gracie.
He definitely goes hard…how are you going to tap everyone if you are not going super hard? Your perfect gentle technique as a blue belt? He goes hard and maybe he weighs more than everyone as well. Done know if he hurts people but do you have to really build up a record of injured bodies before you can put 2+2 together to figure out that going hard and probably being huge is a risk for injuries? And then we have the egos of the higher belts which is always present to some extent. It doesn’t have to be one or the other. It’s both obviously.
He should either be a purple belt and is sandbagging or the higher belts at that gym are simply not that good or much smaller/weaker than him. Could be a mixture of both but even of he is bigger than everyone it still shouldn’t matter the higher belts should be able to handle that
It’s just simple sandbagging BUT that’s not the guy’s fault who’s incredible. He’s just doing him. I see a lot of that loser mentality around and it’s gross, especially from other “men.” People aren’t physically and mentally equal despite all the nonsense that’s been fed to us over and over. Genetics are a real thing and not just physically speaking, people don’t often think about the fact that you’ve got folks doing bjj with IQ’s above the genius line. Blame the coaches/instructors who are placing their own egos and self interests above those of the athlete. That type of behavior is rampant in bjj. What needs to happen is that folks who display extraordinary skill need to be promoted much sooner than what’s been historically seen. Times have changed, information on everything there is to know from every instructor is available, Bernardo is literally doing that with his business, bjj and all its techniques are no longer a secret though some people out there like to pretend they are.
Before all the colors in Asia. It was just a white belt and if you trained for a long time the belt turned darker. We should all just focus on improving our skills instead of focusing on the belt color. I’m a blue belt and I don’t like when upper get upset when I tap them. Are we not all here to improve?
More context would help. Some competition blue belts are really good at 1-2 things but lack the experience and variety for a higher belt. They also refuse to try new things at the risk of “losing” in a training setting. It’s fun to have a hard roll but most of the time I rather roll with someone that’s wanting to practice new concepts or refine old ones and not just win.
There's a few BB's at my gym like this. They wrench techniques using muscle, don't care if you're smaller, less heavy, have a "gotta win this round" mentality and make you panic tap. I call it meatball jiu jitsu. It's ok if that’s the roll I want, but annoying when it's the first time you're rolling with them and 15 seconds in I'm regretting it.
If this dojo's black belts can't handle or correct the attitude of a blue belt they should not have black belts. So either the dojo needs to clean house or some ego's got hurt.
The belt colors should be abolished. Just train with everybody and if your getting your ass kicked, its time to humble yourself and learn from that person.
Yeah what use could it possibly be to see people's relative experience level at a glance? Why have anything to work toward, people hate being recognized for their hard work
@Mmhmmyeahok it brings more ego and division than anything else. You'll know their experience level once you roll, and your goal can then be being the best in the gym. Wrestlers don't have belts and they manage just fine.
@afterzanzibar wrestling starts with little kids and ends with young men and doesnt really exist outside scholastic teams and competition (and associated club teams). This has no relationship to a lifetime sport like jiu jitsu where some people start at 5 and some start at 50. Some have 20 years experience and some have two weeks. Its not a consistent competitive team with a more or less closed pool of experienced wrestlers who train together all the time and know one another. Every college wrestler is a "black belt" and can train together and learn similar techniques. In jiu jitsu you have people learning what guard is and people trying to go to worlds and theyre frequently in the same room. Its extremely useful for everyone to have some sense of who knows approximately what in a large (and constantly changing group).
@@Mmhmmyeahok Sure it's useful, for one specific thing. But, I stand by what I say. You can also just ask the other person. No belt required. You can even do that in shorts, if you like.
@afterzanzibar why should every student and the instructor have to constantly ask everyone their experience level every time you pair up? For that matter what would you even ask? How many years have you done this thing? "Well I've done five years but two years was on and off although I was super serious for one year and came all the time" ok break out your calculator to adjust everyones experience level and then maybe ask a coach for a second opinion to correct peoples misperceptions of their skill level? How is this an improvement over being able to send say, colored belts to one side of the room and white to the other? Or maybe black and brown do these techniques, others do these simpler techniques? Again, what on earth is gained from eliminating a great system for identifying rough skill levels at a glance or in literally two seconds of conversation? Not to mention that people enjoy being able to mark off their accomplishments they work hard for. Might sound silly to you but pretty much everything in life works that way from college graduations to wedding anniversaries.
I just left my gym after nine months, because people have been avoiding me for months now. I tap all white belts, most of the blue belts, and some purple belts. People are cowards and wanted to roll with me non stop when I first started and they could beat me. The three owners, a father and two sons, are all arrogant, and I think that higher belts think that they are bettee than white belts. One of the owners often states he's just a white belt, or I don't teach this move to white belts, insinuating that white belts are worthless.
When it’s about belts, it’s ALWAYS about ego. The only time I won’t train with someone is if they’re too much of a spaz and/or try to hurt people.
Id roll with literally anyone as long as theyre safe.
You have a great academy Bernardo. We are all family at your gym 👍🏻😃
Some people just go super try hard like every practice is a competition, but they aren’t learning anything. Higher belts want to take it easy in order to practice aspects of their game.
The risk with avoiding rolls with someone who taps everyone is eventually that person doesnt feel welcomed and will most likely feel the need to find another gym, then a great training partner is lost.
Excellent comment.
O wow, love this comment.
I just did that as a nine month white belt. I can't imagine how bad it'll be when I'm a blue belt.
assuming h'e s a great partner. he might be a wa nchor. there are people i refuse to roll with, it's not because they are great partners
@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511 You also could be the wa nchor.
I was one of those blue belts at a previous attendance based Gracie affiliate gym and I ended up getting kicked out by the head instructor for it.
In my case, I rolled safe with everyone and never cranked any submissions or did any crazy aggressive scrambles but I enjoyed Jiu Jitsu enough that I studied BJJ Fanatics, Gordon Ryan, Craig Jones, Lachlan Giles, etc. and was able to use the techniques I learned to pass the guard and catch many submissions on people who were higher rank than me to the point people thought I was cross training at other gyms which I wasn’t but cross training was not encouraged at this gym (one student even got in trouble for bringing other students to an open mat and he was later kicked out of the school).
I eventually had a roll with the head instructor where we were training no gi and I caught him in a few heel hooks and instead of congratulating me or being encouraging to me as his student, it was just kind of an awkward silence. I just kept it to myself but felt almost like I was in trouble.
2 weeks later my head coach pulled me aside and confirmed to me I was being kicked out of the school. He told me I wasn’t a fit for the culture and the school was a school for beginners and basics, and there were students who were complaining about rolling with me but he did not say it was safety related and said other gyms would love to have me.
I went to another school who was more than happy to have me and when people rolled with me, they were very happy with my technique and I was promoted to purple belt not long after and now I am an assistant instructor there. So really just goes to show culture in schools make such a huge difference.
Honestly sounds like a fair interaction. “Hey this school is really just for beginners and basics, these other schools in town would love to have you and I think you’d probably be happier there too.” And you were! Sounds like a win all around.
@@shepsean1 Agreed! It was definitely for the best.
@Porcupethtonia wasn't gb, was it?
Your old coach sounds insecure. Was it a Barra gym?
@@heymanhahaHaha I asked the same before reading your comment
New PB, oldest guy in gym, average sized. Athletic for my age, i.e. move faster/stronger than expected, but guess what? Tap all the time. Am I getting better? Slowly over time. How does one learn to be better? Keep rolling with the person who taps you out (man, or woman). It's a submission sport, not The Equalizer... embracing humility is the foundation of martial arts. I am so much better than ever, and also much more aware of how dangerous some people are.
Have fun! Celebrate their skills and ability like a sportsman❤
Great video. A lot of gems in here.
Sounds maybe hes got a wrestling background
blue belt here. ive tapped a few black belts. thanks Danaher lol. these days i prefer to drill and just flow roll. not trying to get hurt or injure anyone. its just a hobby
Love your mentality, at 45 I’ve recently reached where you’re at too. There’s way more value in this approach imo.
May I know the height and weight difference between you vs those black belts?
@@AnothaRealm Im 5'9 160lbs. some of them were like 175lbs. Some smaller. got them with a top lock arm bar..
It seems unlikely that you’ve tapped a black belt at blue with similar size/gender/age. Sometimes higher level players let you work but comp speed, one of you is at the wrong belt. You should know this at blue.
I’m a purple belt and my favorite guy to roll with is a blue belt I’m 47 he’s in his 30s we are very close in our rolls and he definitely will tap me from time to time or I’ll get slightly out positioned he’s a challenge and we learn a lot from each other maybe I don’t care cause there is definitely not much ego at our gym thank God
We have a guy that is phenomenal-he took Silver and blue competition when he was a white belt. I’m a three striped blue belt and he smokes me all the time. He is younger, but is actually very smooth and technical. I don’t mind rolling with him at all, even though he dominates me. I do think it is a real thing, however that the belts and stripes get in the way in regards to ego. It’s important to roll with everybody and belts are not absolute .
I got my blue belt this past Sunday, and got armbarred by a white belt the following day. Just excited to learn from everyone and improve!
It would soooooo cool if that white belt was also commenting on this thread.
I don’t want a blue belt. I want to sandbag for at least the next five years. New belt = new problems.
1) I don’t think a white belt (someone new) has much credibility to say “no one wants to roll with him because he taps everyone.”
2) If this is true, he’s at the wrong belt.
Agree with you, it's happen sometimes in my academy but when the spatz feels the difference they leave quickly...train hard not equal to train without brain, you can be intense but avoiding to hurt people or even competitor risk to have frequent injuries and can't attend tournaments ...
Yep I was there to see all of that 😊
Tempos bom na MGNY
🙏🏼
I'm a white belt, but I have always practiced martial arts and bodybuilding. In BJJ, I can use my knowledge and athleticism to beat upper belts, but I noticed I don't learn anything when I do that. Now, I try to only use technique and upper belts beat me, but I learn more.
I agree with your assessment. This question needs more context. The answer would depend on each scenario.
Belt only hold up pants - mr miyagi
Promoting peole at the right time, when they re ready for the belt, would also minimize that kind of problems. I remember myself struggling to find partners in the higher ranks as a white belt after 2 years of training because I was too good for a white belt. That was frustrating.
We can tell what we want about putting our ego aside etc.. but no purple brown or black belt likes to get tapped by a white belt. I'm a purple belt myself, and I tap to white belts only because I give them positions to make them work and to work on my escapes. It never happened to me that I roll with a white belt that dominates me but I understand it would be frustrating.
In my case, getting my blue belt at the time was a release jut because of that. suddenly people were way more comfortable with the idea of loosing which I completely understand as well. When someone's too good for his belt, jut promote him and don't make him wait for the sake of it...
👏 👏 👏
You say 'at my school, the problem students leave on their own, we don't even need to tell them to go!'. And when you say that, I imagine that, what is actually happening is that Hana is taking these people aside in private and hissing at them "if you do not cancel your membership and never come back we are going to have a PROBLEM. And that's going to be bad for everyone. ESPECIALLY you. And we don't want that, do we?" hahahaha
I think its a rather bad question, since it lacks important specifics.
As a 48 yr old black belt, I get attacked daily by all belts. As long as they are safe, then I don't care who taps me. I let everyone work their moves on me, some I'm able to get out of, and some I don't. You get to learn great defense. If someone is going too hard, I try to explain that he should slow down a bit. If they continue going too hard, then we roll hard🤷♂️🤷♂️
His level is actually not a blue belt anymore, maybe his level is equivalent to a purple belt or maybe a brown belt. but maybe because of some condition he didn't advance to belt level
This blue belt, 5.4 160, 22 yrs judo brown belt no one wants to roll with cause he does some high level judo throws and huts people with throws. The other, his partner, a decade experience catch guy, hurts all students, and the other one blue also, 6.3, 220, hurts all students and eventually sits on the side line cause no one to roll with.
I picked everyone of em and roll with em, after a few months, they couldnt tap me. Why ? I got in to play where they were at their weakest game grappling wise.
I had to dive deep , plunge strainght blast through em never giving em time to think about their fav game. I went ape shit, balls to the walls and it worked. My freestyle and greco background helped me a lot.
IS the White belt talking about me?
Where’s the coach? This is HIS problem.
Seems to me if a blue belt is submitting higher belts on a regular basis, that blue belt deserves to be promoted to purple belt. Isn't that what belts are for?
Exactly, he should be promoted to his appropriate level. Problem solved. There are far too many blue belts, especially young people who have grappled for a long time that are sandbagged by their coaches. They should likely be wearing brown belts. The problem I see in this sport is that the old archaic culture in many instances hasn’t caught up with the times and availability of information. Committed people advance much more quickly now.
@@SeaOrcRonnie I agree! My son is 12 and has been doing jiu jitsu since he was 5. When he turns 16, he will most definitely be a blue belt. But I bet an individual who started jiu jitsu as an adult and was a blue belt would be helpless against him, assuming they are in the same weight class. Kids learn so fast and they have the right mind set - jiu jitsu is fun and they get to make a lot of great friends.
Thanks for the response, yes your son will absolutely dismantle everyone, mine turned 18 this year and is truly one of the best out there, still wearing a blue belt, he submits everyone in the gym including all of the black belts, has a dynamic game from top to bottom. There are special people out there with incredibly high IQ’s that find there way into this art/sport. When people see it in action it almost makes them short circuit. You can see it in their face, how can this kid just wipe the floor with everyone!?!? It’s fun to watch.
Context aside I learn more getting tapped and that concept took some time to understand and embrace
I submit higher belts every often. I dont ask people to roll i have them ask me. I never ask anyone to roll even white belt or fresh day one guys.
Sounds like he should be a purple belt.
I’m being hyperbolic but What if he only knows like 6 technique’s or wins a lot because he’s 240 lbs in shape ( even good black belts who weigh 130-140 will have some trouble with a guy like that ) ? There’s more to jiu jitsu grading then winning training rolls - don’t get me wrong its extremely important n the coach should consider it but there’s a bit more then just winning. Technical knowledge and experience is also important
Also I’ll admit coaches are insanely reluctant to promote people or have some sort of scheduled grading
@@user-vc6 lmao what to be good you only need like 3 techniques
A purple belt is secure enough to let you work.
@user-vc6 if you have a takedown, Guard pass and sub from top that nobody can stop you only need three techniques to be world class. See Pixley.
@@user-vc6 If he's tapping everyone out at the gym the next thing is competition if he's also doing it in competition then he has reached his plateau gotta move him up obviously he has a knowledge and skill level. BJ Penn became a black belt in 3 years under Renzo Gracie.
He definitely goes hard…how are you going to tap everyone if you are not going super hard? Your perfect gentle technique as a blue belt? He goes hard and maybe he weighs more than everyone as well. Done know if he hurts people but do you have to really build up a record of injured bodies before you can put 2+2 together to figure out that going hard and probably being huge is a risk for injuries? And then we have the egos of the higher belts which is always present to some extent. It doesn’t have to be one or the other. It’s both obviously.
He should either be a purple belt and is sandbagging or the higher belts at that gym are simply not that good or much smaller/weaker than him. Could be a mixture of both but even of he is bigger than everyone it still shouldn’t matter the higher belts should be able to handle that
It’s just simple sandbagging BUT that’s not the guy’s fault who’s incredible. He’s just doing him. I see a lot of that loser mentality around and it’s gross, especially from other “men.”
People aren’t physically and mentally equal despite all the nonsense that’s been fed to us over and over. Genetics are a real thing and not just physically speaking, people don’t often think about the fact that you’ve got folks doing bjj with IQ’s above the genius line.
Blame the coaches/instructors who are placing their own egos and self interests above those of the athlete. That type of behavior is rampant in bjj. What needs to happen is that folks who display extraordinary skill need to be promoted much sooner than what’s been historically seen. Times have changed, information on everything there is to know from every instructor is available, Bernardo is literally doing that with his business, bjj and all its techniques are no longer a secret though some people out there like to pretend they are.
Most gyms have an "enforcer" for people who come in to try to hurt people. That was me. I had to be activated a few times.
@Kah-Rah-Tay absolutely always done first.
@@Kah-Rah-Tay again, I would speak with them several times first. Then, only I would work with them.
Before all the colors in Asia. It was just a white belt and if you trained for a long time the belt turned darker. We should all just focus on improving our skills instead of focusing on the belt color. I’m a blue belt and I don’t like when upper get upset when I tap them. Are we not all here to improve?
Excellent comment.
Most schools I rolled at have a few blue belts who enjoy hurting white belts! It's a sign of insecurity!!
People put too much stock on belt colors.
Get rid of the belts. Black for instructors, and white for everyone else.
More context would help. Some competition blue belts are really good at 1-2 things but lack the experience and variety for a higher belt. They also refuse to try new things at the risk of “losing” in a training setting.
It’s fun to have a hard roll but most of the time I rather roll with someone that’s wanting to practice new concepts or refine old ones and not just win.
There's a few BB's at my gym like this. They wrench techniques using muscle, don't care if you're smaller, less heavy, have a "gotta win this round" mentality and make you panic tap. I call it meatball jiu jitsu. It's ok if that’s the roll I want, but annoying when it's the first time you're rolling with them and 15 seconds in I'm regretting it.
If this dojo's black belts can't handle or correct the attitude of a blue belt they should not have black belts.
So either the dojo needs to clean house or some ego's got hurt.
The belt colors should be abolished. Just train with everybody and if your getting your ass kicked, its time to humble yourself and learn from that person.
Yeah what use could it possibly be to see people's relative experience level at a glance? Why have anything to work toward, people hate being recognized for their hard work
@Mmhmmyeahok it brings more ego and division than anything else. You'll know their experience level once you roll, and your goal can then be being the best in the gym. Wrestlers don't have belts and they manage just fine.
@afterzanzibar wrestling starts with little kids and ends with young men and doesnt really exist outside scholastic teams and competition (and associated club teams). This has no relationship to a lifetime sport like jiu jitsu where some people start at 5 and some start at 50. Some have 20 years experience and some have two weeks. Its not a consistent competitive team with a more or less closed pool of experienced wrestlers who train together all the time and know one another.
Every college wrestler is a "black belt" and can train together and learn similar techniques. In jiu jitsu you have people learning what guard is and people trying to go to worlds and theyre frequently in the same room. Its extremely useful for everyone to have some sense of who knows approximately what in a large (and constantly changing group).
@@Mmhmmyeahok Sure it's useful, for one specific thing. But, I stand by what I say. You can also just ask the other person. No belt required. You can even do that in shorts, if you like.
@afterzanzibar why should every student and the instructor have to constantly ask everyone their experience level every time you pair up? For that matter what would you even ask? How many years have you done this thing? "Well I've done five years but two years was on and off although I was super serious for one year and came all the time" ok break out your calculator to adjust everyones experience level and then maybe ask a coach for a second opinion to correct peoples misperceptions of their skill level? How is this an improvement over being able to send say, colored belts to one side of the room and white to the other? Or maybe black and brown do these techniques, others do these simpler techniques?
Again, what on earth is gained from eliminating a great system for identifying rough skill levels at a glance or in literally two seconds of conversation?
Not to mention that people enjoy being able to mark off their accomplishments they work hard for. Might sound silly to you but pretty much everything in life works that way from college graduations to wedding anniversaries.
I just left my gym after nine months, because people have been avoiding me for months now. I tap all white belts, most of the blue belts, and some purple belts. People are cowards and wanted to roll with me non stop when I first started and they could beat me.
The three owners, a father and two sons, are all arrogant, and I think that higher belts think that they are bettee than white belts. One of the owners often states he's just a white belt, or I don't teach this move to white belts, insinuating that white belts are worthless.
Cool story bro
his voices is annoyng