I was born in Luton in 1956, l don't live there anymore for reasons that have been highlighted in your article. My grandfather served in WW1 and was arrested after joining in with the riots. He was imprisoned in Bedford jail for 6 months and missed the birth of my father in February 1920. Luton never was and never will be a nice picturesque town, it's a working class industrialised place populated by people from all Great Britain and further afield. My mother came to Luton from Ireland to find work, as did tens of thousands of others. Growing up in the 60's and 70's in Luton l had a brilliant time, and still meet up regularly with the "old crew". The topic of conversation invariably touches on how the town has declined, and how many of us have moved away. The only things we smile about are the memories of the "good old days". I used to defend my home town if l heard anyone making derogatory remarks about it. I don't say a word these days. The current Clown Hall deserves to be burnt to the ground. Trouble is there aren't enough Lutonians left who care or remember. RIP Luton
Speaking as someone who lived my whole life near Luton, I endorse this message. The town, as more than one writer has noted, is one of many in the Home Counties which has been trashed by urban planners.
USA had the "Bonus Army" - after WW1 they marched on Washington wanting payment for their wartime service - got fired on - then government relented & paid the money owing.
"Quick reminder that there is no upper limit to diversity. You'll just be endlessly told things are too White until you wake up one day to something between Mogadishu and Karachi". ~ Andrew Joyce
I wondering ! Could Great Britain become a third world country by itself, with western Europe being left unaffected, if not thriving ? The worse the UK becomes, does it make it more or less attractive to the type of people wanting to come here ? Maggots feed on dead flesh. 🤔
Hard to imagine patriotic men who had done their best for the nation being discarded and ignored by corrupt and self-serving public servants. I just Khan't believe it
There were mutinies in the forces and the government actually delayed demobilising some troops because of their fear that they would rise up against the government if allowed back into civilian life
My parents lived in Luton during the 1960's and told stories they recalled of neighbours looking out for eachother during that time. A particular memory was of a cold winter around 1963 when they got stuck in a snowdrift at the end of their road. A group of neighbours appeared without being asked and dug their car out of the snow. You wouldn't get that nowadays.
Webb is so obsessed with immigrants , especial dark skinned ones he's a fear monger of epic proportions whose videos are so full of Doom and Gloom about the country he would be better off buggering off to a another ...
I beg to differ. I live in Luton and on my road there lived an old man in his 70's called John. His wife died not long after I moved in a few doors away. I got to know him and one of the things I did without asking or hesitation was shovel the snow off his path and driveway whenever it snowed. I always used to help him with DIY stuff or any problems he had. He was a lovely old man, but sadly he died a few years ago. I wouldn't have done that with all my neighbours however, we've got the usual drug dealers and loud annoying screamy families, but for a normal family, I'd help them out if I could.
I originated from Luton and can say in the 1960's it was a well organised town, clean and tidy. In my school there was only a few cases of diversity and that was in a rough part of the town. Nowadays it looks appalling and I think we all know why.
All that trouble due to the insensitivity of all those in charge. What a surprise! The trouble is, those in power today, from councillors to cabinet ministers, are equally insensitive. When people tire of being taken for fools and the lid finally blows off, they’ll have far more to worry about than a few buildings and a man with a broken leg.
I don't believe a word you said. That's phantasmagoria. Don't you think that if people had in themselves the capacity to react, they would have shown it long ago?
What the English do or did in their own country is their affair and at times, their right. No one has the right to come to England and riot over a foreign cause or ideology.
My uncle on my mother's side and his wife lived in Luton in the 60s and 70s. It was a pretty rough area. My uncle was a carpenter and he is the most hard working man I have ever met.
"Tolerance is the apathy of the people towards the truth." Blaise Pascal 1623-1662 “Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” G.K. Chesterton 1874-1936 "Tolerance is the refuge of people who have no principles of their own." Mahatma Gandhi 1869-1948 "Tolerance is the natural consequence of indifference." Elbert Hubbard 1856-1915 "Tolerance is a crime when it is a disguise for indifference." Mahatma Gandhi 1869-1948 "Tolerance is a sign of weakness." Friedrich Nietzsche 1844-1900 "Tolerance is a sign of moral weakness." Alexander Solzhenitsyn 1918-2008 "Tolerance is the result of despair." Edmund Burke 1729-1797 “Tolerance is the apotheosis of the imbecile, the last infirmity of the weak.” Ambrose Bierce 1842-? "Tolerance is a sign of a decaying society." Plato 428-348 BC "Tolerance is the last virtue of a dying civilization." H.L. Mencken 1880-1956 "Tolerance is the last refuge of the weak and cowardly." Winston Churchill 1874-1965 "We must be intolerant of intolerance in order to be tolerant" Eric Weinstein
Extinction would have took place a lot earlier but for .Old soldiers returning from the Great War +being expected to go away +die quietly. No doubt that was regarded as a lifestyle of choice .Difference is they took what they wanted it was never given .Birth of the welfare state was a painful process. Lifestyle of choice now for the welfare state is to live and thrive In spite of the on going foe .How many people are Willing to watch a child or a loved one die because They cannot afford a doctor or food +shelter .While inflated spivs and low life's consider themselves entitled decrepit miserable rascals There are no pockets in a shroud at any time of day .Best wishes to all 🌹
This is the sort of action that is desperately needed these days, but modern Britain doesn't seem to have pride and passion and belief in country that our predecessors did.
Thank you Simon. Obviously gross and inappropriate spending and callous disregard for the wellbeing and interests of the local tax payers didn't start with Sadiq Khan and his partners in crime. Also, perhaps a copy of your video ought to be shared with Sunak and his cabinet colleagues as a reminder of what can happen when you decide that schemes like your pet "Net Zero" should be pursued at all costs. Of course, those ex-servicemen in Luton were simply "Far Right" troublemakers.
I'm a pretty big youngish healthy fella from a place that is considered "rough" in the North West of England and I'm rarely intimidated by much but I once had the privilege of spending a couple of days in Luton due to work and just walking through the centre and surrounding area on a Tuesday afternoon was a very eye opening experience it made me appreciate where I'm from! Just massive groups of fighting age males from every country other than England prostitutes openly plying their trade next to my hotel in the middle of the day just an all round horrible place so if it was even worse before I'm glad I wasn't around then 🤣
I'm from Hull in north-east England, and I've only been to Luton once, in 2012, and it reminded me of a northern city like Leeds or Sheffield, it had that feel to it.
Unfortunately, too many English....."men" preferred football, drink, and drugs and destroying their own culture and identities instead of fighting to preserve them and bringing their sons up to do the same. "It'll never happen here" was their pathetic war cry. As a Saxon, I find such stupidity and often blatant cowardice, as insulting as it is nationally suicidal.
Around this time, the government fearful of an uprising by men returning from the war to a land NOT fit for heroes, met in Cabinet to discuss how many bayonets they could muster against their own working classes should they follow the example of the bolshevik peasants in Russia in 1917 and overthrow them. One result of this was the Firearms Act 1920 which introduced a licensing requirement for private ownership of firearms. This was not as a response to a need to prevent the use of guns in crime but to protect the government from the wrath of its own citizens. The underlying philosophy of the 2nd Amendment to the American Constitution is based upon the belief that the government must never be stronger than the people, an idea which is sadly lacking in this country.
Thank you very much for this heartbreaking story of how soldiers and the poor were treated. Some soldiers who experienced action suffer greatly after their military service is over
Still do, always have, and have always been treated worse than shit by rhise who send us to fight, often to fight our own bloodlines (,Gerams for example. The English are a Germanic people).
My mum was a Lutonian and her family went back generations in the town, my great uncle was involved in the riots when the town hall was burned down, prior too that my great gran used to clean the stone steps of the town hall to make ends meet as her husband who was a Sargent in the army was killed in WW1, my great gran never received any army pension because his body was never found! Small wonder the people were so angry!
I live near Luton. The music shop that was looted was right on the corner opposite the town hall. The building is now a hairdressers' or nail-bar or something, but there are still some beautiful Art Nouveau tiles depicting musical instruments around the entrance.
Quite a story but very different from what is happening in our towns and cities today. One thing they do have in common is the total disregard those in power have towards ordinary folk!
Morning! Great video, thanks for posting. I was born in Luton in 1962. My grandfather was in the Beds. and Herts. regiment and saw action at Gallipoli and on the Somme. He was a member of the Old Comrades, and he liked a drink. We're FAIRLY sure he was involved in the disturbance but never spoke of it, and in fact, like many servicemen, said very little about his experiences. According to the entry at Luton Museum, someone played 'Keep the Home Fires Burning' on one of the looted pianos as the Town Hall went up! As you mentioned, lots of places had disturbances as the ex-servicemen found that the promises made to them were quickly being abandoned. I was lucky enough to live in some lovely parts of the town, but left in 1999 when I couldn't buy a suitable property near to where I wanted. I went back a few weeks ago to arrange mum's funeral and visited the High Town area where she was born. It just looked so run down, and nothing like the bustling community she would have known in her younger years. One good thing that came out of the burning was the beautiful new Town Hall building (Google Images of it). Whatever you think of what goes on behind the doors, it's certainly a grand testament to what happened. Happy New Year everybody.
I hope my brother Rick and his family are okay... He lives in that area now, decades after he emigrated from the USA. Have not spoken to him for years, we generally communicated through my late mother. I think he and my eldest brother William still talk... He is on FB, but I am now only on FB due to it being the only way to get warranty assistance for an item... I quit using it back at the end of 2016, and try to use it as little as possible. Edit the reason I worry for my brother and his family is due to the large increase in population of the town over the past 2 decades... of various non-European populations with vastly different customs, religions and behavior. My brother worked very hard to return to our roots and become English.
You should read about how Sir Percy Sillitoe sorted out the gangs in Sheffield in the 1920s. He did it by the use of what was called "reasonable force". According to my father the "reasonable force" consisted of rapidly enlisted large Irishmen going around in groups kocking heads together. My father, then a young man fresh from the countryside, was in a pub with his uncle, who had employed him because his father had died prematurely, enjoyong a drink when a large gent walked in, ordered a pint of beer, drank it straight down and placed the glass upside down on the bar. My uncle grabbed my father and pulled him out of the pub followed by most of the other drinkers before the mayhem started. The upside-down glass was a signal saying "I'll fight the best man in here". Sheffield was a rough place.
Thanks for that info. Makes sense. My father's account is the only other reference to an upturned glass I've ever come across. The coal miners in the surrounding areas were a tough bunch just like the steel workers in Sheffield. My mother's family were mainly coal miners. I broke that pattern.
I grew up in Luton between 1968 and 1987 and although it was somewhat tired it was usually a perfectly safe place to be. Things have changed - we did what most self-respecting middle class Brits do and fled to the countryside in mid-bedfordshire. Sad times! Thanks Simon for highlighting this piece of history of which I was unaware!
Up to the 1980's Luton used to have many factories, such as Vauxhalls,associated with the car industry.These ensured full employment as there were always jobs available.Then General Motors pulled out in the 1980's, as did many other car manufacturers. Parts of Luton are very run down, and feel quite scary and depressing to drive through.
My Aunt and Uncle were there at the time. He had been in trenches. They were courting at the time. He sussed out pretty quickly that there was trouble brewing and he got her out of the trouble. We heard there was a children s party cancelled. One of Christmas tales. 😮
im from luton... its far from brilliant but i will say this... my wife is originally from ealing and we went back recently to see where she grew up... i said to her as crap as luton is id rather be there then in the shithole i was currently standing in and even she agreed... luton has always been abit rough... but i have noticed in the last 10ish years that town center literally has no english people in it to the point that most of the people i know despite living here havent been to in years... i havent been myself for quite afew now
I think your technical term for Luton applies to the rest of my home town of London ever since it has been filled with our Muslim replacements. Gone are the clean net curtained windows and freshly cleaned steps. Gone is our community…..but not for good.
I grew up in Luton and left when I was 24. The writing was on the wall back then. I still have friends there and it has not gotten any better. Some great examples of architecture still remain if you can find them.
Born 1958 at No 3 Biscot Rd, grew up Farley hill ( Rotheram High school), this town fashioned me to handle anything that life threw at me, fights were a way of life, good times on the greens, bike riding with my friends at Stockward park! I lived next door to Tim Chaney ( Luton Boy) I am so glad he wrote a book about us all...I will always Love Luton, but left Blighty behind and moved to USA when I was 20...I often go on google maps and wonder around the place, home is home! I just love this video, Thank You for the old stories, when people ask me about Luton, I always say it was a toilet stop for the Romans, Luton has a rich History, and the people who end up there, better learn how to fight and survive...it's Luton's Nature!
About 20 years ago I worked with a woman who took "white flight" to Luton from London because she was concerned her children (who were black ) would be dragged into gangs or would be victims of gangs . Over the years I've often wondered how things turned out for her sons.
What every body should be aware of is that the Establishment does not need to call on English troops to quell a rebellion they have already committed a Trojan Army in Every Town and Village in the UK to Do their Dirty Work
As a lutonian who moved away years ago but i still have links,yes it was different years ago but just like London a certain group want to move here and multiply bringing there customs and ways of life recreating there homeland here getting there own people into local and then national government.i don't know any other country in the world would let that happen evenif the shoe was on the other foot would that happen
There's a hospital in Luton... The AnE staff are very good at dealing with holes in humans, some bullet etc. From kiddies in prams upwards... But never reported!
Hi, I'm Tom Bishop. Born 1943 68 Leagrave Road.. I certainly was not taught about this in Beech Hill secondary modern school. But I remember the rhythm, I come from Luton Town where the Town Hall burnt down. Yes, still alive living in Rhodes. I loved Luton..
There was sporadic disorder all over Britain in 1919. Even here in the N/E at South Sheilds where Seamen returning from the war found their jobs had been given to Arab and Indian seaman. At half the going rate of course. Of course the "disorder" fizzled out in Britain. But not in Germany. Soldiers and the unemployed constantly agitated there, and eventually took the state in 1933.
I visted Luton way back in the 1970s when lots of people I knew in Scotland had moved down to work in the Bedford factories. It was diverse compared to anywhere in Scotland back then and the locals were not too chuffed about it shall we say. I noticed it most of all in the Arndale shopping centre, with frankly intimidating mobs of the diverse would hang around. It 100% obvious to where this was all going even 50 years ago and nothing I have experienced either in the UK or abroad has changed my mind one bit.
Things like this may have been common across the empire post Great War. In Canada there was the Winnipeg General Strike of which one of the contributing factors was high inflation during the war, leading to high prices with wages not keeping up, massive profits made by factors during the war and then a lack of work for the men returned home. Such things combined with a lack of empathy from the wealthier classes and government ended up leading to violence.
My father, who fought in WW2, had some similar tales to tell about those who were not called upon to serve, for various reasons, (some very plausible and respectable in some cases). To him, or at least, they way I heard it from him, those who had not lifted a weapon were the ones receiving the plaudits and "getting the credit", as it were. He (my dad), never had any time for these type of people and was involved in many a verbal 'skirmish' with colleagues when we re-entered the workplace, post-war.....in the War Office!!
Hold on tight it going to be a rough ride .That goes for every one there will be that aspect in common. Of course for now nothing will vary only the general level. Downward spiral will continue as it has done for past 14 years in the hands of the same rascals .You know the past 14years where a lot thought that Labour was living rent free .In every little peevish little Englanders head .Best wishes to all 🌹
I would visit my grandparents there , and remember their next door neighbour was still in the 1950s suffering from WW1 shell shock, so much for homes for for heroes, Luton is still a rough old place ,i left there in 1978 best move ever, Thank you for the video i was aware of the towns history. But think it was far far safer in earlier times. Rgds Sisaket Thailand.
At the time, people were cold, ill, repressed and had almost no chances in life. Now it's full of people who can't or won't take the chance to advance and maintain the place, despite the *relative* riches we all have.
I remember many years ago, someone remarked to my mom that New Orleans (her hometwon) had gone downhill...she replied, "Pirates used to hang out there, it's always been bad."
Simon, theres a book about it called " Where they burnt the town hall down - the First World War and the peace day riots of 1919 by Dave Craddock originally published in 1999. You can pick up a used copy from the usual places, (I have a copy), very highly recommended, it goes into so much more detail than what you just read.
We tend to forget that the UK was an oligarchy at the time and which reflected political representation. A few months later a wooden structure was build in Whitehall to act as a sop to soldiers and their relatives, memorials then sprung up across the country funded by the public purse and private donations. The authorities realised they had to do something, and this was their answer. Not that soldiers or their families were ever looked after, but an appearance of empathy had to be made. But it shows the reality, and how the Edwardian class system worked. That those in control thought that their behaviour was perfectly reasonable. That modest demands and being treated decently were thought outrageous and that demobbed soldiers should know their place. Surely if riots hadn't happened we should be wondering, why not...
@@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb thank you simon and thank you for last years content thoroughly appreciated long may it continue and strive .it really does cheer me up thank you
I remember mentioning to some friends, back in the 1980s, that I was born on the Lewsey Farm estate in Luton. The look of horror and concern was quite unexpected to me. But Luton really has had an awful reputation for as long as I can remember.
There's a exhibition in Luton museum, Wardown Park, telling the story of the peace day riots, If you ever visit here it's worth a look, with items salvaged from the ruins as part of the display.
Luton like many cities and towns is a dump and far worse compared to 100 years ago. It might have been rough but no mosques, no temples, no fast food junk shops, Turkish barbers, nail bars, women wearing the veil, men wearing nighties and even worse pedo grooming gangs. Luton could be better but that will involve a change in people and a far greater number of natives people living in Luton.
I was born in Luton in 1956, l don't live there anymore for reasons that have been highlighted in your article. My grandfather served in WW1 and was arrested after joining in with the riots. He was imprisoned in Bedford jail for 6 months and missed the birth of my father in February 1920. Luton never was and never will be a nice picturesque town, it's a working class industrialised place populated by people from all Great Britain and further afield. My mother came to Luton from Ireland to find work, as did tens of thousands of others. Growing up in the 60's and 70's in Luton l had a brilliant time, and still meet up regularly with the "old crew". The topic of conversation invariably touches on how the town has declined, and how many of us have moved away. The only things we smile about are the memories of the "good old days". I used to defend my home town if l heard anyone making derogatory remarks about it. I don't say a word these days.
The current Clown Hall deserves to be burnt to the ground. Trouble is there aren't enough Lutonians left who care or remember. RIP Luton
Nice post. Thank you. 👍
Over consumption of mercury is probably the reason. Mad hatters and all.
Speaking as someone who lived my whole life near Luton, I endorse this message. The town, as more than one writer has noted, is one of many in the Home Counties which has been trashed by urban planners.
I like your Rab C nesbitt picture! "Beat it"
Thanks for your post old timer. A year older than my dad. Best of luck to you and your family.
The older I get the more I respect local vigilante movements.
I don't respect nobody or nothing and why would I? That's the question
@@AwRighttttt I hear ya bud.
@@LigerprideRight OK then you hear me. So what is the answer?
I be doing this and that but for whatt and for who and for why? I'm still left behind to go crazy and dye in thus mess
I respect the BladeRunners.
That was British citizens holding the swamp to account. Luton we were proud of you.
Bad news after bad news after bad news. Thats all I here these days! I'm sick of this world now
USA had the "Bonus Army" - after WW1 they marched on Washington wanting payment for their wartime service - got fired on - then government relented & paid the money owing.
How American
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"Quick reminder that there is no upper limit to diversity. You'll just be endlessly told things are too White until you wake up one day to something between Mogadishu and Karachi".
~ Andrew Joyce
Quick reminder we don't give a F. F everything
I wondering ! Could Great Britain become a third world country by itself, with western Europe being left unaffected, if not thriving ? The worse the UK becomes, does it make it more or less attractive to the type of people wanting to come here ? Maggots feed on dead flesh. 🤔
Diversity never means a balance of anything. It always means less whites or no whites.
We're getting 'diversified' into oblivion.
I parked on Harpenden Road a few years ago and walked into town. It's already Mogadishu.
Hard to imagine patriotic men who had done their best for the nation being discarded and ignored by corrupt and self-serving public servants. I just Khan't believe it
Excellent comment.
The so called woman are the blame for every thing
The so called woman abandoned the patriotic men told them they don't need them and that they ain't even good enuf for them..
They drove the patriotic men silly and turned them into durt.. But their freek show tra8or Ism is coming back to bite them now for sure.
Unfortunately, one just Khan't deny it.
Somehow, I would prefer Luton as it was rather than, what it is now.
AtLeastLutonwasEnglishinthosedays
And that was good.@@garycard1456
The good old days. You'd have loved it..
Nah I don't give a F no more. Why would I even care about anything that's the question
The uncaring durt filth amoung us continue to live up to their name.
What a tragic tale. Never knew this piece of history. Men returning from war to nothing!
That is exactly how it was.
It was terrible - absolute disgrace!
There were mutinies in the forces and the government actually delayed demobilising some troops because of their fear that they would rise up against the government if allowed back into civilian life
The Romans banned their armies from entering Rome and lived in fear during their demobilisation as rewards for service weren't as promised
They fought to rid the world of fascism...and now comes this channel
My parents lived in Luton during the 1960's and told stories they recalled of neighbours looking out for eachother during that time. A particular memory was of a cold winter around 1963 when they got stuck in a snowdrift at the end of their road. A group of neighbours appeared without being asked and dug their car out of the snow. You wouldn't get that nowadays.
Newham exactly the same
Depends where you live.
Webb is so obsessed with immigrants , especial dark skinned ones he's a fear monger of epic proportions whose videos are so full of Doom and Gloom about the country he would be better off buggering off to a another ...
Yawn
I beg to differ. I live in Luton and on my road there lived an old man in his 70's called John. His wife died not long after I moved in a few doors away. I got to know him and one of the things I did without asking or hesitation was shovel the snow off his path and driveway whenever it snowed. I always used to help him with DIY stuff or any problems he had. He was a lovely old man, but sadly he died a few years ago. I wouldn't have done that with all my neighbours however, we've got the usual drug dealers and loud annoying screamy families, but for a normal family, I'd help them out if I could.
Well at least those citizens of Luton knew how to properly deal with local councillors. Maybe we should bring some of the old customs back?
@English. 💯🥳
What like the church of England did burning people at the stake like they did only 400 years ago ?
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I think I still would have preferred Luton back then to now, to be honest......
Before it became overrun with immigrants like Tommy Robinson's parents?
LOL
So called woman so called people exspecting respect exspecting help. Meanwhile they never helped us EVER and give us zero reasons to respect them 😮😮
F eveyything F everyone.. I'd feel more patriotic about a snail than I would for the durt of today
I originated from Luton and can say in the 1960's it was a well organised town, clean and tidy. In my school there was only a few cases of diversity and that was in a rough part of the town. Nowadays it looks appalling and I think we all know why.
Say It! Muslims!
@@leanatale7251agreement all round, things always goes badly for them, a primitive culture.
It's appalling in your eyes only because there is more diversity than before_ pathetic!
@@leanatale7251 you're a one trick pony, mate
@@harrying882 nope, that's factually incorrect
All that trouble due to the insensitivity of all those in charge. What a surprise! The trouble is, those in power today, from councillors to cabinet ministers, are equally insensitive. When people tire of being taken for fools and the lid finally blows off, they’ll have far more to worry about than a few buildings and a man with a broken leg.
@Ian. 🤣
I don't believe a word you said. That's phantasmagoria. Don't you think that if people had in themselves the capacity to react, they would have shown it long ago?
Mark Steyn has the line now " i used to worry that we would have a revolt , now i worry that we will not "
What the English do or did in their own country is their affair and at times, their right. No one has the right to come to England and riot over a foreign cause or ideology.
My uncle on my mother's side and his wife lived in Luton in the 60s and 70s. It was a pretty rough area. My uncle was a carpenter and he is the most hard working man I have ever met.
Im in Blackburn sometimes lovingly referred to as the 'Luton of the North'
named coz blacks are burning stuff?
Oh dear. Don't want that reputation
That's nasty
Blackburn, Pakistan 🇵🇰
I lived in Dawen for a year...but I am not a fascist so it was fine by me
I wonder how much. Money is sent abroad from Luton rather than spent in and around the town
Something wrong with you?Post the same comment several times and you can't read a simple statement😂
The English town of Luton stopped being an English town. You knew that someone had to say it.
The truth will out, as they say....👍
Was it when it became overrun with immigrants like Tommy Robinson's parents?
LOL
And that's just the beginning. Look at the African birth rate.
@@JuneTurner-dt4fb gross
Welcome to Coventry
many Native Britons have been raised to be "open-minded", "tolerant", passive and docile. The result is our own imminent extinction.
"Tolerance is the apathy of the people towards the truth." Blaise Pascal 1623-1662
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” G.K. Chesterton 1874-1936
"Tolerance is the refuge of people who have no principles of their own." Mahatma Gandhi 1869-1948
"Tolerance is the natural consequence of indifference." Elbert Hubbard 1856-1915
"Tolerance is a crime when it is a disguise for indifference." Mahatma Gandhi 1869-1948
"Tolerance is a sign of weakness." Friedrich Nietzsche 1844-1900
"Tolerance is a sign of moral weakness." Alexander Solzhenitsyn 1918-2008
"Tolerance is the result of despair." Edmund Burke 1729-1797
“Tolerance is the apotheosis of the imbecile, the last infirmity of the weak.” Ambrose Bierce 1842-?
"Tolerance is a sign of a decaying society." Plato 428-348 BC
"Tolerance is the last virtue of a dying civilization." H.L. Mencken 1880-1956
"Tolerance is the last refuge of the weak and cowardly." Winston Churchill 1874-1965
"We must be intolerant of intolerance in order to be tolerant" Eric Weinstein
Its no ones fault, its just that nature and the Sun does not like and want you gone. Dont blame anyone for your genetic shortcomings.
he says while speaking our language and using our inventions. Go back to your diseased hashish dens where you belong@@warriorwarrior2573
you worship a child raypist @@warriorwarrior2573
Extinction would have took place a lot earlier but for .Old soldiers returning from the Great War +being expected to go away +die quietly. No doubt that was regarded as a lifestyle of choice .Difference is they took what they wanted it was never given .Birth of the welfare state was a painful process. Lifestyle of choice now for the welfare state is to live and thrive In spite of the on going foe .How many people are Willing to watch a child or a loved one die because They cannot afford a doctor or food +shelter .While inflated spivs and low life's consider themselves entitled decrepit miserable rascals There are no pockets in a shroud at any time of day .Best wishes to all 🌹
This is the sort of action that is desperately needed these days, but modern Britain doesn't seem to have pride and passion and belief in country that our predecessors did.
Imagine these men looking forward to their town now some 100 years ahead. They would be ashamed.
They wouldn't let it happen.
No reason for them to be ashamed. I think they would be shocked and feel betrayed.
Thank you Simon. Obviously gross and inappropriate spending and callous disregard for the wellbeing and interests of the local tax payers didn't start with Sadiq Khan and his partners in crime. Also, perhaps a copy of your video ought to be shared with Sunak and his cabinet colleagues as a reminder of what can happen when you decide that schemes like your pet "Net Zero" should be pursued at all costs. Of course, those ex-servicemen in Luton were simply "Far Right" troublemakers.
@@mrsogre The Khant is riding high & arrogant & looking at a fall.
I'm a pretty big youngish healthy fella from a place that is considered "rough" in the North West of England and I'm rarely intimidated by much but I once had the privilege of spending a couple of days in Luton due to work and just walking through the centre and surrounding area on a Tuesday afternoon was a very eye opening experience it made me appreciate where I'm from! Just massive groups of fighting age males from every country other than England prostitutes openly plying their trade next to my hotel in the middle of the day just an all round horrible place so if it was even worse before I'm glad I wasn't around then 🤣
What ever happened previously was not worse than the hole it is now.
I'm from Hull in north-east England, and I've only been to Luton once, in 2012, and it reminded me of a northern city like Leeds or Sheffield, it had that feel to it.
Because they’re just repeating what they read on social media not through personal experience
Been here 50 years it’s no different to anywhere eise
@user-xs1yx9tc9m How very dare tha, Sheffield 'tint as bad as Luton. It's bleedin worse ah tell thee@
@@floydisnutz8443I’m from Norfolk and quite like Sheffield. Tremendously friendly people.
Immigration has destroyed England 🤷♂️ no 2 ways about it.
Wales and ireland have self combustible hotels try them
Nah nah pro Grammed brain good for nothing tra8ors the ones who have de stroyed everything.
Unfortunately, too many English....."men" preferred football, drink, and drugs and destroying their own culture and identities instead of fighting to preserve them and bringing their sons up to do the same. "It'll never happen here" was their pathetic war cry.
As a Saxon, I find such stupidity and often blatant cowardice, as insulting as it is nationally suicidal.
Go to North Yorkshire it's great !
For how long?@@SunofYork
Around this time, the government fearful of an uprising by men returning from the war to a land NOT fit for heroes, met in Cabinet to discuss how many bayonets they could muster against their own working classes should they follow the example of the bolshevik peasants in Russia in 1917 and overthrow them.
One result of this was the Firearms Act 1920 which introduced a licensing requirement for private ownership of firearms. This was not as a response to a need to prevent the use of guns in crime but to protect the government from the wrath of its own citizens.
The underlying philosophy of the 2nd Amendment to the American Constitution is based upon the belief that the government must never be stronger than the people, an idea which is sadly lacking in this country.
@Carol.👍
Windsor says all while we watch across the pond at the much delayed removal of the 2nd amendment right.
Thank you very much for this heartbreaking story of how soldiers and the poor were treated. Some soldiers who experienced action suffer greatly after their military service is over
Still do, always have, and have always been treated worse than shit by rhise who send us to fight, often to fight our own bloodlines (,Gerams for example. The English are a Germanic people).
My mum was a Lutonian and her family went back generations in the town, my great uncle was involved in the riots when the town hall was burned down, prior too that my great gran used to clean the stone steps of the town hall to make ends meet as her husband who was a Sargent in the army was killed in WW1, my great gran never received any army pension because his body was never found! Small wonder the people were so angry!
And there's really only one common denominator in all these scenarios: The bloody government.
I live near Luton. The music shop that was looted was right on the corner opposite the town hall. The building is now a hairdressers' or nail-bar or something, but there are still some beautiful Art Nouveau tiles depicting musical instruments around the entrance.
@@massivehero4871 Have you nothing better to do than cut & paste through the entire comments section?
@@tonylaverick7865 🤣
That music shop was called farmers I believe, when they dragged the piano out they played’ keep the home fires burning’ while the town hall burned!
Quite a story but very different from what is happening in our towns and cities today. One thing they do have in common is the total disregard those in power have towards ordinary folk!
Morning! Great video, thanks for posting. I was born in Luton in 1962. My grandfather was in the Beds. and Herts. regiment and saw action at Gallipoli and on the Somme. He was a member of the Old Comrades, and he liked a drink. We're FAIRLY sure he was involved in the disturbance but never spoke of it, and in fact, like many servicemen, said very little about his experiences. According to the entry at Luton Museum, someone played 'Keep the Home Fires Burning' on one of the looted pianos as the Town Hall went up! As you mentioned, lots of places had disturbances as the ex-servicemen found that the promises made to them were quickly being abandoned. I was lucky enough to live in some lovely parts of the town, but left in 1999 when I couldn't buy a suitable property near to where I wanted. I went back a few weeks ago to arrange mum's funeral and visited the High Town area where she was born. It just looked so run down, and nothing like the bustling community she would have known in her younger years. One good thing that came out of the burning was the beautiful new Town Hall building (Google Images of it). Whatever you think of what goes on behind the doors, it's certainly a grand testament to what happened. Happy New Year everybody.
I hope my brother Rick and his family are okay... He lives in that area now, decades after he emigrated from the USA. Have not spoken to him for years, we generally communicated through my late mother. I think he and my eldest brother William still talk... He is on FB, but I am now only on FB due to it being the only way to get warranty assistance for an item... I quit using it back at the end of 2016, and try to use it as little as possible. Edit the reason I worry for my brother and his family is due to the large increase in population of the town over the past 2 decades... of various non-European populations with vastly different customs, religions and behavior. My brother worked very hard to return to our roots and become English.
Happy New Year, Simon. Keep up the great work.
Happy New Year to you too!
You should read about how Sir Percy Sillitoe sorted out the gangs in Sheffield in the 1920s. He did it by the use of what was called "reasonable force". According to my father the "reasonable force" consisted of rapidly enlisted large Irishmen going around in groups kocking heads together.
My father, then a young man fresh from the countryside, was in a pub with his uncle, who had employed him because his father had died prematurely, enjoyong a drink when a large gent walked in, ordered a pint of beer, drank it straight down and placed the glass upside down on the bar. My uncle grabbed my father and pulled him out of the pub followed by most of the other drinkers before the mayhem started.
The upside-down glass was a signal saying "I'll fight the best man in here".
Sheffield was a rough place.
The upside down glass could also mean that the beer was rubbish too, I’ve seen it happen a few times in Sheffield.
Thanks for that info. Makes sense. My father's account is the only other reference to an upturned glass I've ever come across.
The coal miners in the surrounding areas were a tough bunch just like the steel workers in Sheffield.
My mother's family were mainly coal miners. I broke that pattern.
A small and justifiable disturbance nearly one hundered years ago compared to what we have now seems like heaven.
The older I get the more history becomes important to me. Thanks for this titbit. Very interesting.🤔
Really enjoyed this about good old England. More tails of our rebellious ancestors please, who seem to have gumption than us modern folk!
I grew up in Luton between 1968 and 1987 and although it was somewhat tired it was usually a perfectly safe place to be. Things have changed - we did what most self-respecting middle class Brits do and fled to the countryside in mid-bedfordshire. Sad times! Thanks Simon for highlighting this piece of history of which I was unaware!
This History lesson should be made compulsory reading for every town council and their corrupt Politician bosses.
@greg. 👍
the trouble always seems to stem from "out of touch/out of control" government officials .
Best intro yet 🤣 Happy New Year Simon.
Up to the 1980's Luton used to have many factories, such as Vauxhalls,associated with the car industry.These ensured full employment as there were always jobs available.Then General Motors pulled out in the 1980's, as did many other car manufacturers.
Parts of Luton are very run down, and feel quite scary and depressing to drive through.
Around 1919, a lot of towns and cities including Birmingham, Manchester and most port cities all seemed to be pretty rough and lawless
No doubt Tommy Robinson will be held accountable for this.
I don’t really care, at least it was English. Our past is ours
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No. That's the way of the defeatist
@@scrappydoo7887 why?
So shoukd our future and future of our children be OURS in OUR ancestral homeland. Grow a backbone.
Thanks for an excellent story about Luton. I've not visited for a while due to Ryanair moving locations
I'm glad that you liked it.
My Aunt and Uncle were there at the time. He had been in trenches. They were courting at the time. He sussed out pretty quickly that there was trouble brewing and he got her out of the trouble. We heard there was a children s party cancelled. One of Christmas tales. 😮
This country could do with citizens who had the courage of their convictions to bring about change through direct action.
im from luton... its far from brilliant but i will say this... my wife is originally from ealing and we went back recently to see where she grew up... i said to her as crap as luton is id rather be there then in the shithole i was currently standing in and even she agreed... luton has always been abit rough... but i have noticed in the last 10ish years that town center literally has no english people in it to the point that most of the people i know despite living here havent been to in years... i havent been myself for quite afew now
Funny thing is luton voted brevity because Asians (pakistanis)didn't want outsiders in their area
Brevity
Brexit
What a load of bollox
You absolute melt
All of the UK is shithole,get out if you can.
I think your technical term for Luton applies to the rest of my home town of London ever since it has been filled with our Muslim replacements. Gone are the clean net curtained windows and freshly cleaned steps. Gone is our community…..but not for good.
"replacement" is a Nazi theme word from the 1930s. Bet you didn't' know that ?
@@SunofYork Bet he doesnt care...lol
I grew up in Luton and left when I was 24. The writing was on the wall back then. I still have friends there and it has not gotten any better. Some great examples of architecture still remain if you can find them.
How long ago did you leave then ?
@@massivehero4871really???
Born 1958 at No 3 Biscot Rd, grew up Farley hill ( Rotheram High school), this town fashioned me to handle anything that life threw at me, fights were a way of life, good times on the greens, bike riding with my friends at Stockward park! I lived next door to Tim Chaney ( Luton Boy) I am so glad he wrote a book about us all...I will always Love Luton, but left Blighty behind and moved to USA when I was 20...I often go on google maps and wonder around the place, home is home! I just love this video, Thank You for the old stories, when people ask me about Luton, I always say it was a toilet stop for the Romans, Luton has a rich History, and the people who end up there, better learn how to fight and survive...it's Luton's Nature!
Yet another example of those that govern us are completely detached from us .
About 20 years ago I worked with a woman who took "white flight" to Luton from London because she was concerned her children (who were black ) would be dragged into gangs or would be victims of gangs . Over the years I've often wondered how things turned out for her sons.
And after all these years, NOTHINGS CHANGED.
What every body should be aware of is that the Establishment does not need to call on English troops to quell a rebellion they have already committed a Trojan Army in Every Town and Village in the UK to Do their Dirty Work
Correct, and far too many idiots here refuse to do anything about them or their masters. Makes me wonder why I ever served in uniform.
How silly of the National front to think people will believe that
As a lutonian who moved away years ago but i still have links,yes it was different years ago but just like London a certain group want to move here and multiply bringing there customs and ways of life recreating there homeland here getting there own people into local and then national government.i don't know any other country in the world would let that happen evenif the shoe was on the other foot would that happen
There's a hospital in Luton... The AnE staff are very good at dealing with holes in humans, some bullet etc. From kiddies in prams upwards... But never reported!
Rough or not, it was still ours. It’s not anymore.
So was smallpox and polio
Hi, I'm Tom Bishop. Born 1943 68 Leagrave Road.. I certainly was not taught about this in Beech Hill secondary modern school.
But I remember the rhythm, I come from Luton Town where the Town Hall burnt down.
Yes, still alive living in Rhodes. I loved Luton..
It was said that instead of Britain being a "Land fit for heroes You needed to be a hero to live in Britain.
Like now
Who said that... your mosley ?
@@SunofYork ???
@@maryhook9478 There are many Mosley fans on this channel...
@@SunofYork Who is Mosley?
Back when British men still had balls.
There was sporadic disorder all over Britain in 1919. Even here in the N/E at South Sheilds where Seamen returning from the war found their jobs had been given to Arab and Indian seaman. At half the going rate of course. Of course the "disorder" fizzled out in Britain. But not in Germany. Soldiers and the unemployed constantly agitated there, and eventually took the state in 1933.
@@Occident.People never learn in this country anymore.
Now you are giving me ideas on what can be done
I visted Luton way back in the 1970s when lots of people I knew in Scotland had moved down to work in the Bedford factories. It was diverse compared to anywhere in Scotland back then and the locals were not too chuffed about it shall we say.
I noticed it most of all in the Arndale shopping centre, with frankly intimidating mobs of the diverse would hang around. It 100% obvious to where this was all going even 50 years ago and nothing I have experienced either in the UK or abroad has changed my mind one bit.
Things like this may have been common across the empire post Great War. In Canada there was the Winnipeg General Strike of which one of the contributing factors was high inflation during the war, leading to high prices with wages not keeping up, massive profits made by factors during the war and then a lack of work for the men returned home. Such things combined with a lack of empathy from the wealthier classes and government ended up leading to violence.
a riot where the rioters found time for a sing-song, God I love being English!
I think the common man may rise again if the authorities keep ignoring him.
you first warrior ? laugh out loud..
Excellent reporting ! Thanks so much ! Absolutely agree with the last few words.
You get what you vote for.
Don't vote conservative or labour.
Time for change.
Vote REFORM PARTY
Enough is enough.
My father, who fought in WW2, had some similar tales to tell about those who were not called upon to serve, for various reasons, (some very plausible and respectable in some cases).
To him, or at least, they way I heard it from him, those who had not lifted a weapon were the ones receiving the plaudits and "getting the credit", as it were.
He (my dad), never had any time for these type of people and was involved in many a verbal 'skirmish' with colleagues when we re-entered the workplace, post-war.....in the War Office!!
Happy New Year Simon, one can only wonder what 2024 will bring about.
You can stop wondering I believe the council will probably have all the street signs changed and will be in Urdu with a small English translation
Death, destruction, pestilence,famine, disease,and unnatural acts of wickedness 😢
Hold on tight it going to be a rough ride .That goes for every one there will be that aspect in common. Of course for now nothing will vary only the general level. Downward spiral will continue as it has done for past 14 years in the hands of the same rascals .You know the past 14years where a lot thought that Labour was living rent free .In every little peevish little Englanders head .Best wishes to all 🌹
@@Rose-zw2oe That sounds very american. Is it ?
Very interesting series of localised events almost lost to history but now preserved digitally for future generations!
You must do more of these!
I would visit my grandparents there , and remember their next door neighbour was still in the 1950s suffering from WW1 shell shock, so much for homes for for heroes, Luton is still a rough old place ,i left there in 1978 best move ever, Thank you for the video i was aware of the towns history. But think it was far far safer in earlier times.
Rgds Sisaket Thailand.
The intervening years of peace have no doubt made the men folk of our country soft.
and you too ?
Thank you Tony Bliar .
Back when England had some real Men
Like you Betty ?
Sounds like the people who ran Luton then are little better than those that run it today.
Great one
Thank you
Simon
Fascinating bit of local history, that. Thank you.
Our people went through a lot, they didn’t throw money at them like they have with the in vaders.
3 trillion and counting
At the time, people were cold, ill, repressed and had almost no chances in life. Now it's full of people who can't or won't take the chance to advance and maintain the place, despite the *relative* riches we all have.
You could open a curry shop ?
Brilliant piece. Never heard of this. Thank you!
There is nothing lower than a politician!
They refer to each other as the right honorable in the commons but there is very little honour on show!!!
👏👏👏👏👏👏 quality piece and very enlightening
I remember many years ago, someone remarked to my mom that New Orleans (her hometwon) had gone downhill...she replied, "Pirates used to hang out there, it's always been bad."
How old is your mom?, she must be about 300
@@jamesleonard7439I don't think she mentioned that she was around when the pirates were there. We have to assume that she wasn't.
Ever heard of Jean Lafitte? She was being sarcastic. @@jamesleonard7439
Simon, theres a book about it called " Where they burnt the town hall down - the First World War and the peace day riots of 1919 by Dave Craddock originally published in 1999. You can pick up a used copy from the usual places, (I have a copy), very highly recommended, it goes into so much more detail than what you just read.
Happy New year simon ,crack on !!!ty ms cdf
Happy New Year!
We tend to forget that the UK was an oligarchy at the time and which reflected political representation. A few months later a wooden structure was build in Whitehall to act as a sop to soldiers and their relatives, memorials then sprung up across the country funded by the public purse and private donations. The authorities realised they had to do something, and this was their answer. Not that soldiers or their families were ever looked after, but an appearance of empathy had to be made. But it shows the reality, and how the Edwardian class system worked. That those in control thought that their behaviour was perfectly reasonable. That modest demands and being treated decently were thought outrageous and that demobbed soldiers should know their place. Surely if riots hadn't happened we should be wondering, why not...
Back when patriots fought back. And the police, as usual, were on the wrong side.
Hello mr webb and happy new year
And a happy New year to you too!
@@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb thank you simon and thank you for last years content thoroughly appreciated long may it continue and strive .it really does cheer me up thank you
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Surely it can't of been any worse than it is today!
I remember mentioning to some friends, back in the 1980s, that I was born on the Lewsey Farm estate in Luton. The look of horror and concern was quite unexpected to me. But Luton really has had an awful reputation for as long as I can remember.
There's a exhibition in Luton museum, Wardown Park, telling the story of the peace day riots, If you ever visit here it's worth a look, with items salvaged from the ruins as part of the display.
Luton like many cities and towns is a dump and far worse compared to 100 years ago. It might have been rough but no mosques, no temples, no fast food junk shops, Turkish barbers, nail bars, women wearing the veil, men wearing nighties and even worse pedo grooming gangs. Luton could be better but that will involve a change in people and a far greater number of natives people living in Luton.
Circumstances did call for what happened in Luton 100 years ago,circumstances still do, RIOT
If only people had that backbone today.
Like you perhaps ?
@@SunofYork Me family threw 3 kings of England off the throne. The last in America. Perhaps you misspeak.
The difference is dissatisfaction with governing bodies, not fighting amongst each other.
Love your videos mate
You think the interlopers and their descendants will celebrate Armistice Day, VE Day and all that jazz after we've gone?