Im glad you said that. I think most people trying to teach on this technique dont really understand what draws the fish in and then make it commit. I think the pros understand but are leaving the details out on purpose. Thanks!
@@Ijustwanttofish2024 yes you are right about that most of them will just tell you it a jig head on a fluke and not be specific of what they use and how to rig it. I've been trying to learn this technique it tough without much info so I'm glad I click on your video when it pop up on my feeds thanks.
I loved the video. I’m trying to learn this technique and I was putting my minnow baits on the jig head more centered and didn’t think to hook them higher up to get that roll so I def will try that out my next trip out. Thanks for all the info
I really like the sonar minnow for damiki rigging thanks for the tip i will give it a shot. As for the juggle minnow I'm going to start throwing it into my rotation more and see what happens. @@JasonColeman-us3pj
@@Ijustwanttofish2024 yeah I’ve been using the sonar minnow that way too. I’m going to get some of the lighter weights like you mentioned and try it out. Again thanks for your tips.
Like fish arrow and hog farmer best! Like your perch technique, I’ve been painting crankbaits, need thinking about doing it to plastic bait ,found you just in time, I got the spike it makers just haven’t got the confidence to start, thx you showed me how! You the Devinchi ! lol I appreciate you sharing this juice! Keep the faith brother! 👍🥸🙏
Thanks for the comment, Im glad the videos resonated with you. That perch video did not do as well as it should but I promise you its absolutely fire. 🔥
Just subscribed. This is best explanatory vedio on hover/mid strolling out there. Look forward to seeing more on topic. Is it possible to go into more detail on retrieve and rod position. You did great job talking about shaking rod trip etc, just interested in whether there are slow, fast retrieves, jerks, keep rod tip up or pointed at bait while shaking. Any other tips. Also what about jig rigs like core tackle hover rig? Have you used those? Thanks
Thanks! I appreciate the feedback. I really did try to give people the real meaning of the technique from the Japanese explanation. I feel like a lot of people are just throwing the words around and creating jig heads that are not meant for this technique. I have used the hover rig and I dont see it working for this technique, If Im wrong somebody teach me. As far as retrieve speeds you can definitely go faster or slower, the mood of the fish will dictate that. I never really do any jerking but I do pop the bait every so often.
Yeah 100% Kyoya just won there with the drift fry and Sakamata shad but they will all work. Hes sponsored by Jackall so off course thats what he is going to use. I could tell he didnt want to mention the deps but knows the world sees him on bass live LOL.
When you are using such light weights (like anything below a 1/8 oz) how do you target fish that are deeper than 15-20 ft? Especially if they are roaming and you have to intercept them? I imagine those light weights would take 10-15 seconds or more to get down to depth.
The rod in the video was a 7'1" daiwa dropshot rod. I have been using different rods all year and have settled on two different Raid rods, they are made for this technique and help you get the bait to roll consistently.
For most of the 4 inch baits the 3/32 with the 1/0 hook is money. For the 5 inch fish roller I use the same 3/32 ounce head. Moving up to the 5 inch drift fry I use the 1/8 with the 3/0 hook because of the bulk to the bait.
With the ball head jig you said to hook it high to get more roll , then you showed your rig with the nail weight with the nail weight low. Why wouldn't you put your nail weight high for better roll also?
Every bait is different and every day is different. When I was rigging the nail weight I mentioned I have caught them rigging the weight in the top, in the middle, and in the belly. You have to experiment. I think its because one day the fish may want a lot of roll and flash and one day maybe not so much. Also when it comes to hovering, if you put a very small weight in the belly it sort of keels the bait. Your almost fishing it weightless. When you shake the bait it quivers and rolls.
Some really ignorant comments here, bro. I can learn from your video. I refuse to buy FFS and this video gave me some confidence to try it with 2D SI DI.
Thats really awesome to hear. I cant wait to show people how this can work shallow, theres alot of oportunity here. Iv been playing with this technique for three years and most of what people are seeing is elite guys catching with FFS. Of course that works, but dont limit yourself.
@@Ijustwanttofish2024Do you have FFS? Will you do a video using this technique without the use of FFS? I'd really be interested in that, if you can do it. I just found your channel - NEW SUB.
Yes I have FFS. There are no techniques that are exclusive to FFS. FFS make you more efficient. I will do a video using this technique shallow, but now that I have put it out there i would not be surprised if you saw someone else do it first. In my area I am a couple weeks from the fish moving up and getting on targets. @@computerguy1724
@@Ijustwanttofish2024 I'll stay tuned looking for that video. Mentally, I'm whooped going in. I keep thinking of 2D basically showing fish under my boat not way out in front of it, so, it makes think it is a guessing game. And with no bites in a relatively short time it would make me lose confidence. Hope that makes sense. My fish are doing the same thing, close to moving up. I'm in PA, where are you?
Before FFS thats how I would fish for suspended fish with 2d. Believe it or not 2d is still super valuable because the cone is wider and it will pick up fish that you miss with FFS. If you see them lets say 10' down then count down whatever you are fishing to about that level. Iv caught a load of fish doing that before FFS.@@computerguy1724
I did go over that in the video. Its the rod and reel maker of your choice but the rod needs a relatively soft tip. The reel 2500-3000 size. I use 10lb braid with 8-14lb leader
Yep, hit spot lock on your trolling motor, stare down at your FFS, toss your bait to the blob’s on your screen and bam, you have a fish on! Amazing isn’t it?
I'm not sure if you watched the whole video but there is huge potential to this technique and it has nothing to do with forward facing sonar. I know I mentioned at least once if not twice to be creative. I cut out some of the stuff I recorded to keep it halfway quick, but I will say it hear. The bank fisherman or shallow water guy can really do well with this technique. IT IS NOT LIMITED TO FORWARD FACING SONAR. The only mention I made to FFS was how the fish react when they see this technique, you can tell they have not seen it before. Dont be so closed minded or you will not grow as a fisherman.
@@Ijustwanttofish2024 Hitting the lake next Wednesday… I just might give it a go seeing that the lake I’ll be fishing has a lot of submerged trees! This technique might work well fishin it around 8-10’ deep on the outside of the tree line’s. 🎣
Yeah 100% The better the water clarity the further they will move to get it. If the water is murky you have to get it pretty close to them. Good Luck!@@stevencaldwell838
I will start by saying I love Matt Steffan. I bought some of those jig heads and have yet to catch a fish either, but I put very little time in to them. Like I said in the video, I try stuff and if it cant pretty quickly replace what Im having success with I leave it on the backburner. The dirtier the water the smaller the strike zone. These baits move very little water so you need to really get it in front of them. Use a very lite weight so you can work the bait slower with out it sinking past them. I have caught them in as little as 12-18" of water clarity, so I hope that helps.
I appreciate the response, I do use AT2 and I will give it another go, but my favorite weapon is a magnum flutter spoon. Getting my shoulder yanked out of socket is the deal!
Do what you love and have confidence in. If you think there is a reason to learn a new technique leave everything else home and experiment in different scenarios until you start succeeding. @@KissmyBasss
IM NOT FALLING FOR IT ANYMORE! the chicken rig, free rig, and now this... They get you to but this very technique specific gear that you can only use for that swearing its the best thing since the worm and it sucks! Not doing anymore.
It is a good technique, but the reason why it's winning everything is cuz people are using it in conjunction with the forward facing sonar. Doesn't work as well without a video screen telling you exactly where it cast it.
@@Ijustwanttofish2024yea, a ball head minnow is as old as fishing itself. However, it’s winning tournaments because the live instant feedback that live scope gives you synergizes with ball head minnows extremely well.
That's exactly one of the reasons I did this video. Your not giving the flash and roll of these baits enough credit. Most people are leaving that fact out and I feel like they are doing it on purpose. If a ball head minnow would do just as well they would throw it out there and steady wind the bait.@@treehunter1
Because I covered everything there is to cover. I see alot of people trying to make videos on the subject and unfortunately they dont know what they are talking about. Iv talked about this technique in the truest sense, from the Japanese perspective where this technique and the baits were developed.
Bro, don’t worry about comments like this you did a hell of a job m.. I don’t want an hour tutorial to get the exact same information I could get in 15 minutes. Thank you so much for making the video you got a like and new subscriber!!
Thanks man! You will never please everyone and thats fine. I didnt look at the time I just put out all the information and it is what it is. I called it a master class because I dont think there is anything left to say! I asked him with all seriousness what am I missing? Thanks for the comment!@@bassgruntfishing6072
Love your channel like the jackal
Thanks so much. The jackall is a great bait. All the baits work and every day is different so you have to experiment.
Finally a video explaining and underwater footage of this technique greatly appreciated.
Im glad you said that. I think most people trying to teach on this technique dont really understand what draws the fish in and then make it commit. I think the pros understand but are leaving the details out on purpose. Thanks!
@@Ijustwanttofish2024 yes you are right about that most of them will just tell you it a jig head on a fluke and not be specific of what they use and how to rig it. I've been trying to learn this technique it tough without much info so I'm glad I click on your video when it pop up on my feeds thanks.
Thats why I did it, I felt alot of guys were leaving out some of the important details.@@fuekhang9761
Im going with the Hog farmer and the Fish arrow !!
Both great baits. Fish arrow try with some sunny slight windy conditions it has a bunch of flash.@@bradleymcvicker7509
I loved the video. I’m trying to learn this technique and I was putting my minnow baits on the jig head more centered and didn’t think to hook them higher up to get that roll so I def will try that out my next trip out. Thanks for all the info
My pleasure. What baits are you using?
@@Ijustwanttofish2024 I’ve been using the yum sonar minnow and the 6 sense juggle minnow. Fishing lake Lanier in Georgia
I really like the sonar minnow for damiki rigging thanks for the tip i will give it a shot. As for the juggle minnow I'm going to start throwing it into my rotation more and see what happens. @@JasonColeman-us3pj
@@Ijustwanttofish2024 yeah I’ve been using the sonar minnow that way too. I’m going to get some of the lighter weights like you mentioned and try it out. Again thanks for your tips.
Great Video!!!! Thank You for the info. The drift fry looked the best to me.
So glad you liked it. Be on the lookout drift fry its trickling in to the U.S. Thanks for the comment.
Just found your channel man. Keep up the good work.
Thanks man I appreciate it!
First time watching your channel … great job.
Thanks Rob! Appreciate the comment. I have a lot of excellent content coming up so stay tuned.
Thanks a lot. Incredible
Thank you! Appreciate the feedback.
Like fish arrow and hog farmer best! Like your perch technique, I’ve been painting crankbaits, need thinking about doing it to plastic bait ,found you just in time, I got the spike it makers just haven’t got the confidence to start, thx you showed me how! You the Devinchi ! lol I appreciate you sharing this juice! Keep the faith brother! 👍🥸🙏
Thanks for the comment, Im glad the videos resonated with you. That perch video did not do as well as it should but I promise you its absolutely fire. 🔥
Great video
Thank you! Appreciate the feedback!
The fish arrow J split tail looks awesome, be better with nail weight instead of jig head
It works great with a nail weight but you can mess with different jig heads. In the essence of time I didn't.
@@Ijustwanttofish2024 there's something about the "4eyes" that I don't like ... I'm sure most fish don't care idk
Good stuff! Appreciate you, thanks. 🐟🐟🐟
Thanks! Im glad you liked it!
Just subscribed. This is best explanatory vedio on hover/mid strolling out there. Look forward to seeing more on topic. Is it possible to go into more detail on retrieve and rod position. You did great job talking about shaking rod trip etc, just interested in whether there are slow, fast retrieves, jerks, keep rod tip up or pointed at bait while shaking. Any other tips. Also what about jig rigs like core tackle hover rig? Have you used those? Thanks
Thanks! I appreciate the feedback. I really did try to give people the real meaning of the technique from the Japanese explanation. I feel like a lot of people are just throwing the words around and creating jig heads that are not meant for this technique. I have used the hover rig and I dont see it working for this technique, If Im wrong somebody teach me. As far as retrieve speeds you can definitely go faster or slower, the mood of the fish will dictate that. I never really do any jerking but I do pop the bait every so often.
Good video, thanks. My top four are the Fish Arrow, Mylar Minnow, Drift Fry and Raid Roller. I think they would all work where I fish on Toledo Bend.
Yeah 100% Kyoya just won there with the drift fry and Sakamata shad but they will all work. Hes sponsored by Jackall so off course thats what he is going to use. I could tell he didnt want to mention the deps but knows the world sees him on bass live LOL.
When you are using such light weights (like anything below a 1/8 oz) how do you target fish that are deeper than 15-20 ft? Especially if they are roaming and you have to intercept them? I imagine those light weights would take 10-15 seconds or more to get down to depth.
Which model of rod is that?
The rod in the video was a 7'1" daiwa dropshot rod. I have been using different rods all year and have settled on two different Raid rods, they are made for this technique and help you get the bait to roll consistently.
Great vid man!
Thank you! Appreciate the comment!
What size weight do u like for the 4 inch and 5 inch I have the owner range roller
For most of the 4 inch baits the 3/32 with the 1/0 hook is money. For the 5 inch fish roller I use the same 3/32 ounce head. Moving up to the 5 inch drift fry I use the 1/8 with the 3/0 hook because of the bulk to the bait.
Check out my latest video because I give some important tips on the head. th-cam.com/video/BFmXkTzdrLA/w-d-xo.html
Thank you
@@MichaelBates-do9pn any time
With the ball head jig you said to hook it high to get more roll , then you showed your rig with the nail weight with the nail weight low. Why wouldn't you put your nail weight high for better roll also?
Every bait is different and every day is different. When I was rigging the nail weight I mentioned I have caught them rigging the weight in the top, in the middle, and in the belly. You have to experiment. I think its because one day the fish may want a lot of roll and flash and one day maybe not so much. Also when it comes to hovering, if you put a very small weight in the belly it sort of keels the bait. Your almost fishing it weightless. When you shake the bait it quivers and rolls.
Gotcha. Tks for the reply.@@Ijustwanttofish2024
Great👌
Thanks! Appreciate the comment!
Some really ignorant comments here, bro. I can learn from your video. I refuse to buy FFS and this video gave me some confidence to try it with 2D SI DI.
Thats really awesome to hear. I cant wait to show people how this can work shallow, theres alot of oportunity here. Iv been playing with this technique for three years and most of what people are seeing is elite guys catching with FFS. Of course that works, but dont limit yourself.
@@Ijustwanttofish2024Do you have FFS? Will you do a video using this technique without the use of FFS? I'd really be interested in that, if you can do it. I just found your channel - NEW SUB.
Yes I have FFS. There are no techniques that are exclusive to FFS. FFS make you more efficient. I will do a video using this technique shallow, but now that I have put it out there i would not be surprised if you saw someone else do it first. In my area I am a couple weeks from the fish moving up and getting on targets. @@computerguy1724
@@Ijustwanttofish2024 I'll stay tuned looking for that video. Mentally, I'm whooped going in. I keep thinking of 2D basically showing fish under my boat not way out in front of it, so, it makes think it is a guessing game. And with no bites in a relatively short time it would make me lose confidence. Hope that makes sense. My fish are doing the same thing, close to moving up. I'm in PA, where are you?
Before FFS thats how I would fish for suspended fish with 2d. Believe it or not 2d is still super valuable because the cone is wider and it will pick up fish that you miss with FFS. If you see them lets say 10' down then count down whatever you are fishing to about that level. Iv caught a load of fish doing that before FFS.@@computerguy1724
Nice content New subscriber
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it!
I’m going with the hog farmer and the fish arrow
What rod / reel line combo
I did go over that in the video. Its the rod and reel maker of your choice but the rod needs a relatively soft tip. The reel 2500-3000 size. I use 10lb braid with 8-14lb leader
Yep, hit spot lock on your trolling motor, stare down at your FFS, toss your bait to the blob’s on your screen and bam, you have a fish on! Amazing isn’t it?
I'm not sure if you watched the whole video but there is huge potential to this technique and it has nothing to do with forward facing sonar. I know I mentioned at least once if not twice to be creative. I cut out some of the stuff I recorded to keep it halfway quick, but I will say it hear. The bank fisherman or shallow water guy can really do well with this technique. IT IS NOT LIMITED TO FORWARD FACING SONAR. The only mention I made to FFS was how the fish react when they see this technique, you can tell they have not seen it before. Dont be so closed minded or you will not grow as a fisherman.
@@Ijustwanttofish2024 I will. Typically, when I here FFS, I move on. Not my bag🎣
That's cool I get it, but don't only think this is for FFS. Work this shallow around cover and see what happens. @@stevencaldwell838
@@Ijustwanttofish2024 Hitting the lake next Wednesday… I just might give it a go seeing that the lake I’ll be fishing has a lot of submerged trees! This technique might work well fishin it around 8-10’ deep on the outside of the tree line’s. 🎣
Yeah 100% The better the water clarity the further they will move to get it. If the water is murky you have to get it pretty close to them. Good Luck!@@stevencaldwell838
Man I got on this early, before core tackle released, then I bought those, I didn't catch a fish, we have dirty to stained. Is that the difference?
I will start by saying I love Matt Steffan. I bought some of those jig heads and have yet to catch a fish either, but I put very little time in to them. Like I said in the video, I try stuff and if it cant pretty quickly replace what Im having success with I leave it on the backburner. The dirtier the water the smaller the strike zone. These baits move very little water so you need to really get it in front of them. Use a very lite weight so you can work the bait slower with out it sinking past them. I have caught them in as little as 12-18" of water clarity, so I hope that helps.
I appreciate the response, I do use AT2 and I will give it another go, but my favorite weapon is a magnum flutter spoon. Getting my shoulder yanked out of socket is the deal!
Do what you love and have confidence in. If you think there is a reason to learn a new technique leave everything else home and experiment in different scenarios until you start succeeding. @@KissmyBasss
Thanks for that, I believe techniques differ lake to lake. Even within 30 minutes of me.
Thats a definite. @@KissmyBasss
IM NOT FALLING FOR IT ANYMORE! the chicken rig, free rig, and now this... They get you to but this very technique specific gear that you can only use for that swearing its the best thing since the worm and it sucks! Not doing anymore.
Lol. Whatever works for you. Tight lines!
This comment hasnt aged well.....haha
It is a good technique, but the reason why it's winning everything is cuz people are using it in conjunction with the forward facing sonar. Doesn't work as well without a video screen telling you exactly where it cast it.
I will tell you I'v been using this for three years and it works everywhere, you dont need to use forward facing sonar.
@@Ijustwanttofish2024yea, a ball head minnow is as old as fishing itself. However, it’s winning tournaments because the live instant feedback that live scope gives you synergizes with ball head minnows extremely well.
That's exactly one of the reasons I did this video. Your not giving the flash and roll of these baits enough credit. Most people are leaving that fact out and I feel like they are doing it on purpose. If a ball head minnow would do just as well they would throw it out there and steady wind the bait.@@treehunter1
How do you take 14 minutes to talk about a technique and call it a "master class "
Because I covered everything there is to cover. I see alot of people trying to make videos on the subject and unfortunately they dont know what they are talking about. Iv talked about this technique in the truest sense, from the Japanese perspective where this technique and the baits were developed.
What do you think I am missing?
Bro, don’t worry about comments like this you did a hell of a job m.. I don’t want an hour tutorial to get the exact same information I could get in 15 minutes. Thank you so much for making the video you got a like and new subscriber!!
Thanks man! You will never please everyone and thats fine. I didnt look at the time I just put out all the information and it is what it is. I called it a master class because I dont think there is anything left to say! I asked him with all seriousness what am I missing? Thanks for the comment!@@bassgruntfishing6072