Bergmann No. 1 / 1894
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The initial patent for what would become the Bergmann pistols was actually a delayed blowback mechanism, and it was quickly revised to simple blowback by Louis Schmeisser. The first actual production pistols, designated the No.1, used this plain blowback system.
This initial Bergmann-Schmeisser design's notable features include loading via 5-round Mannlicher type clip, a recoil spring located under the barrel, and a unique birds-head style grip. Note also the bolt guide rail on the left side of the pistol.
Very few of the No.1 pistols would be made before a number of significant changes were made, resulting in the 1896 pattern, including the No.2, No.3, and No.4 pistols.
Bergman 1894:
Invents front slide serrations
Glock 2020: “Meh”
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the loaded clips are so pretty- instead of a bandolier, imagine a vest or a jacket with a bunch of those clips hanging in neat rows so your alternate-history pistoleer could yank them off and reload.
They dangle off the hooks and sparkle in the sun.
If they had double stacked they could got 8 rounds
Noah Macmanus style.
Haha. Yank them off.
It is a shame they didn't catch on. They are rather stylish guns.
only if you don't have to holster it, then it'd be awkward!!! let alone a wimpy load!!!
I love this pistol, it's got a strange beauty to it. It looks somehow simultaneously sci fi and old timey. I want a replica that would fire something more available like 9mm or something. Just wow
in 1894 5 rounds was pretty standard, especially considering most revolvers were only safe with a 5 round load (so the hammer can rest on an empty chamber)
Get ready for them to spike in popularity now. It looks like it's going to be the main character's blaster in the new Star Wars show. (The Mandalorian)
@@yienmaster04 yes I was thinking the same thing
Ahh yes, the Bornheim from Hunt Showdown.... I’m surprised no one has mentioned that yet.
mmhm mmhm mmhm MMHMMMMMM...
one of my favorite guns in the game!
@@paavoyletyinen6880 but it need 4 body shoot to kill a guy :(
That is, why I’m here
@@bigbighuge4298 4? aim better, its a 3fer to the torso - still 1 to the head
And now Mandalorian makes this relevant again.
Got to keep those old Star Wars traditions alive after all.
I literally saw this in my recommended thinking that it looked like a blaster not knowing that it was in the Mandalorian...
Only for fools with no knowledge of their own history.
@Star Trek Theory I'm sure someone is going to start reproducing them specifically for that.
Loving the show and the gun designs in it!
micro picatinny rail at the top right for tactical oil lamp or magnifying glass laser
‘‘Twas actually an attachment point for ye olde timepiece. Custom order for Jerry Miculek’s grand daddy
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I was going to say that.
baptistus54 oil lamp hahaha!
@@raiderrichard7291 Later upgraded to a carbide/acetylene generator with windproof burner.
I'm so glad you're taking these on. I love the Bergmann pistols and hearing more about them.
You'll like the series, then - in filming the videos, we had a total of about 55 different Bergmanns out to work with. :)
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so heaven?
C&Rsenal q
Remember that in Big Jake, Patrick Wayne carried a version of the Bergman...other that Clint using a C 96 in 'Joe Kidd'...it is the only "C&R" pistol I know of used in a western...
And now you guys have a kickass video too!
This gun looks like it could fit in a Sci-Fi movie. Just add a nice paint job, and boom: futuristic pistol.
IFDF: Admiral Y11 i was thinking that too
IFDF: Admiral Y11 don't paint it!
Dustin Jenkins i wasnt sugesting painting it for the record. Lol. Just agreeing it looks futuristic
Honestly Star Wars could probably get away without modifying it at all, or just adding a scope or weird muzzle.
easy there Buck Rodgers!
Despite the mechanical disadvantages, I'm kind of sad that the Bergman models weren't more successful. Those designs are just beautiful.
I agree! ... I wish someone would make a reproduction! (I think in the popular 9mm) ... if the price was it would sell!
MHHHH I WONDER WHY THIS IS IN MY FEED AGAIN
Luca Johnen cuz TH-cam = Disney
Those are gorgeous.
So many guns I wish were still produced.
Yeah someone needs to make a repro of this.
there's always the big reproduction companies like Cimarron I guess, I'd like to see them come out with more cartridge guns from the 1800s
"I'm a Mandalorian, weapons are part of my religion.”
Could you imagine Ian making a cameo on that series, like the sommelier in Johh Wick 2.
Mandalorians have been oppressed by the Fed for long enough!
Joseph Eastham I thought I recognized this pistol 🔫
All praise “Gun Jesus”.
My religion is definitely mandalorian
Put some doohickies on there and it'll be a perfect Star wars blaster ;)
i'd watch about saying stuff like that, those fans will drive you nuts!!!! I speak from experience!!!it took 2 months to shut them up!!!!!
/watch?v=s6EQQnkUGIk
... the Internet heard you.. this is now a basis for the Mandalorian gun for the TV new series ^^
Got great news for you buddy
Heh, I just finished watching his most recent video.
It popped up in my recommendations after i watched Ian's video about the mandalorian's blaster
Mine showed up in the recommended a few front page refreshes later. 251,657 views. How much will it increase?
Hi Ian, I would like to extend a special thanks to the owner of these pistols for allowing you to do your outstanding (as usual) show and tell on these rare firearms. To all you fans of the channel who may have rare firearms of your own, I strongly encourage you to share your collection with Ian. It is a shame when guns are locked away out of sight. Guns like these Bergmanns are beautiful pieces of art and history and deserve to be shared with people who can truly appreciate them! Well done, as always, Ian.
There's just such an unique rustic beauty to these early 1900s european handguns like this and the C96 that no modern day gun even tries to replicate
You mean German Handguns...
Video one from the #1 himself, Gun Jesus. Thank you for the video, and have a good one Ian.
Fabulous pistols, I collect pre 1900 Bergmann pistols and I have two of the 1894 models number 6 and number 8. They are similar to number 14 in Ians video with number 8 being the closest in features. All was not lost with these 'experimental firearms' as you know Bergmann learned from these and produced the fairly successful number two and three with a few number four's among them. Great presentation Ian - very rare pistols for sure.
This is an absolutely gorgeous handgun. I find myself rewatching this video often. The magazine's location must make it very well balanced. I want to own one of these, a broomhandle Mauser and a Luger. Those guns are just pure art. Probably the most elegant handguns.
Please tell us that the owner is willing to do a photogrametry session with this pistol so all the gun/prop nerds can 3d print the base for Mandalorian blasters.
Ian activated the well and saved his soul. He's back to tell us how he survived it all with this handgun.
Hey, it's the new Hunt: Showdown gun!
Some of the most gorgeous pistols I've seen
With The Mandalorian release, these pistols and your video will deservedly receive more views. Those pistols, and many of the pistols that are from this time period are beautiful. Though they are often complicated and of questionable reliability they are still beautiful. Nothing in the firearms industry looks like these at all aesthetically. Definitely sucks honestly.
This is officially my new favorite pistol
Anyone else recognize this from Hunt: Showdown?
Ian saved his soul and is back to tell us about it.
This thing has a damn amazing looking gun that trigger hole is jaw dropping
The last round in the clip has a huge groove in it from the follower slaming on it
I noticed there's this really cool motif in Star Wars of giving heroes blasters based on turn of the century Semi autos. Obviously Han has his Mauser, and in episode 7 he gives Rey a blaster that looks an awful lot like it was built off of a Bergmann. Now in rogue one, Jyn Erso is given what looks like an artillery Luger with a heavy barrel.
for being an odd little pistol it sure as hell looks pretty amazing, I'd buy one if I had the money
"The safety on these pistols is very important. Definitely need to use it--or you [chuckles] would've-- the chances you'd be carrying one of these pistols today are approximately zero." Oh yeah? I can't walk two blocks in this goddamn city without being menaced by a troop of Prussian uhlans (THANKS, OBAMA). If I didn't have my Bergmann as part of my EDC along with my saber. my horse, my cavalry lance, a Maglite, and twelve angry drunk Cossacks, I genuinely don't believe I could make my weekly run to Krystal's and come back with all 144 tiny awful hamburgers.
I had Krystal for the first time this year. God they are horrible
Prussians?
Is Blucher in the woods?
Sounds like a gros order of hamgurgers, ngl
Such beautiful craftsmanship
It's bizarre, and a little primitive, and it looks like it belongs in Star Wars. How absolutely perfect for Forgotten Weapons.
I definitely want to see more content like this! Great video of a fascinating time in weapons development.
Really unique and beautiful pistols Ian. Can't wait ot see the other ones!
Interesting to see that front slide serrations were just as (in)effective in 1894 as they are today.
Possibly the coolest-looking weapons ever tbh ...
Perfect for the Mandalorian on the go.
This is the way.
I love the birds head grip on this gun. The overall look is so steam punk. Someone needs to work this into a movie.
Symmetrical, long, and slim -- the ergonomics of a 1951 Navy which has been called the best-pointing pistol ever. Does the Bergmann also point well?
Hey Ian, really enjoying learning about the Bergmann Pistols so far. On an unrelated note, any plans to add a ball-cap to your merchandise page? All the shirts are super cool, but I really want a hat!
Thanks for all your hard work!
I will look into caps - thanks!
If only governments could be so easy to get along with OR IGNORE.
Your videos are awesome!!! Thank you for making this information available, you are IMO one of the great internet educators of our age.
Genuinely cool looking pistol (the well finished one anyway). Looks like a cross between Han Solos' C96 and a LeMatt. Always a pleasure visiting your channel sir.
This thing looks so retro-futuristic, people from new "Blade Runner" called, claiming that one of their props has gone lost.
You were really close.
They should be hiring you on film sets to advice which cool guns should be put in the movies.
He had a stint with a certain recent game.
sauce
ThatOneHumanMale battlefield 1
I love this channel because there's not an NRA plug during every video.
Rosewood grip, goldleaf inlay and a bit of polish and that would be the classiest gun I've ever seen
It looks very futuristic for its time.
Whoever owned these ones, thank you so much for keeping them around so Ian could look at them and share with me this wonderful information on them. Stay safe, peeps!
Would be so cool if someone would attempt to recreate these and chamber it for let's say 9x19 or so. So unique looking even today. Imagine what it looked like for people around 1900. Gorgeous thing.
Wouldn't take much of an attempt. Any modern gunsmith can recreate one of these with a few tweaks
This gun has great lines. Love the handgrip and trigger hole. Looks like something from a fantasy western.
I would love to see a video discussing the practical/modern implications of clips vs. magazines. For instance it seems to me that a design like this could be further optimized to reduce load time, battlefield waste, and weight.
What a beautiful little pistol, so ahead of its time!
This is actually a really cool little firearm! I would love to get my hands on one.
Man this is a classy implement. It is just wonderful
Talk about a forgotten weapon. Really interesting piece.
The Bergmanns just look so amazingly retro-scifi in design :)
funny you should say that
Inb4 “hey, the gun from The Mandalorian”
I ordered comments by date to see similar comments :P
It's beautiful, in an alien sort of way.
"alien"
This comment aged so well.
Star Blyatinum
Yeah, I guess it did, didn’t it?
Kusagari Blues
Yup.
And howdy.
Star Blyatinum
Howdy, stranger.
Such a beautiful gun
10:32 "the chances that you'd be carrying one of these pistols today is approximately 0"
Me: you don't know this ian, I haven't become rich yet
looks like a classic "Steampunk" weapon
DeathsStalkerRVT I see I am not the only one who thinks so! It would be nice to get a functioning reproduction!
I’m currently trying to actually write a steam punk esc story and I’m defiantly going to base the pistols off of these. I say steam punk esc because while it has steam based technology it actually takes place in a more Anglo Saxon type world
And now you are more right than ever
Star wars.
Eh, not enough exposed working bits for steampunk, IMO. One of those bolt actions converted to semi-auto, however...
Ibhad to revisit this... I might have "forgotten" to watch this video.
Such a unique cool design.
Thank you Ian! I couldn't sleep so this is a godsend!
Almost seems like you could pull the clip out once it's locked into place, leaving just the rounds in the mag under tension with the follower.
Only if there are feed lips built into the gun.
I wonder why the trigger looks set at such an odd angle.
hand placement looks like, your had would be very low on the pistol.
Hmmm. Kind of like Han Solo across the table from Greedo. Very interesting.
Because it is extremely high on the gun
Michael Smith whoa dude you were way ahead of your time
Saw the thumbnail and my mind immediately went to the Mandolorian. I’m so glad star wars is using props like this again!
It’s like what if the revolver and the self-loading pistol had a kid.
Very good looking pistol and looks like it was hardly used if at all. I was impressed by early semi autos even as a kid back in the 70s. If its being used as a space gun now just imagine seeing it 126 years ago.
These grips look like early Webley ones! What a beautiful firearm...
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This thing looks so cool
In all honesty, this would make a great Star Wars blaster.
And now for a comment which aged ***incredibly well.***
@@Ariana321 holy shit, you're right
finally found forgotten bergmanns, so excited!
This pistol is beautiful I would love to learn about more guns with a similar style
This is such a cool looking firearm.
seems like a well designed little gun, nice video
This is a beautiful gun
My favorite pistol next to the 1910/21! Very cool futuristic pistol
Please express our gratitude to the collector who has let you into their home to show us these guns. I know I appreciate it a lot!
This is a beautiful weapon
Outstanding video, thank you
What a cool looking gun.
Looking forward to the new video about what guns were used as props.
Nice Design i like this!
Really cool pistol! A few usability issues, but otherwise really pretty and has a slick mechanism
In terms of design, these pistols look pretty cool :D
I love the ingenuity it yook to make it
I have to guess that there's a room full of Star Wars props designers doing a DEEP dive into Forgotten Weapons. Ian should charge a consultant's fee.
its disney...... they get away with lots of stuff....
Cleaning rod might have been abandoned on later versions...but I find it hilarious they left it on for the Mandalorian...because it's supposed to be a blaster...
Everyone makes fun of the cleaning rod until their first Mudhorn fight. 😉
These guns are beautiful!
Odd feeding design, the ejection port suggests it was meant for right-handed use yet loading seems much easier if holding the pistol with the left hand
afaik, it was standard practice to place your pistol in your left hand and load with your right in that time period. the french 1873 revolver has the loading gate and ejector on the right side, ian covered quite a few revolvers from that era that are the same (look up his vid on the 20-shot pinfire revolver for some eye candy). something else to think about is that pistols were designed to be shot one-handed. your other hand was either holding horse-reigns, a blade (for officers), or flipping off your target (i assume).
what a good looking pistol
Good lord what a cool pistol
Looks amazing, I would definitely love to own one if it has a good price.
Its a slick little blaster
Pew pew
Nice blaster! I have spoken
Dang, I want one of these.
what a beauty
Cruder = more crude. I am astounded each review that Ian finds prototypes. omg. How?
This is a very nice looking gun.