C93 Borchardt: the First Successful Self-Loading Pistol
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Hugo Borchardt was a brilliant and well-traveled firearms designer. He was born in Germany but emigrated to the United States at a fairly young age, where he became engaged in the gun trade. He spent time working with Winchester, Remington (where he patented improvements on James Paris Lee's box magazine idea), and Sharps (where he designed the M1878 rifle and worked as Superintendent). With this experience under his belt, he returned to Germany and worked with the Loewe/DWM corporation.
Borchardt's seminal invention in Germany was his C93 automatic pistol, which was the first of its kinds using a reasonably powerful cartridge and a locked-breech action. Unlike the other designs extant at the time, the C93 went into commercial production, and 3000 were ultimately made. The gun was safe and reliable, and it set the standard for locating a detachable box magazine in the grip, which remains the standard today. However, its very bulky mainspring assembly led to it being a rather awkward handgun to use (although it was a quite nice carbine when used with its detachable shoulder stock).
Borchardt's talents came hand-in-hand with a fair amount of hubris, and he refused to consider the possibility that his pistol could be improved. Several military trials requested a smaller and handier version of the gun, and when Borchardt refused to make those changes, DWM gave the job to a man named Georg Luger. Luger was very good at taking existing designs and improving them, and he transformed the basic action of the C93 into the Luger automatic pistol, which of course became one of the most iconic handguns ever made.
“3,000 of these pistols were made”
And Arthur owned 2 of them.
And a few thousand people who is online
Travis McCutchan well yeah, one for show one to shoot
@Tristin Wireman
And Dutch
Very intelligent
No, you have to buy them. For me Arthur doesn’t have a Mauser at all. Dutch does tho
I bet that guy went to his grave wanting to strangle Luger.
+dreyrugr Why? IIRC they (or rather Loewe and Borchardt) came to a fair financial agreement, and while Luger is more famous today, in their lifetimes Borchardt was far more wealthy due to his various non-firearms patents. Notably, Luger was broke by 1922 due to being screwed over by DWM in 1919 and died not exactly a pauper but somewhat struggling financially in 1923. Hugo Borchardt passed away the next year, in 1924, much better-off than his onetime protege.
+Andrew Suryali thx =]
NightlifeSux Worse when you think about it... Rollin White basically got lucky with one patent, and he was in league with S&W making it very difficult for the US govt to get their hands on desperately-needed modern firearms. Luger was a very prolific inventor with huge contributions not only to DWM but also his own country.
+dreyrugr i bet, he Went to his grave, regretting that he didn´t do the improvment him self.
what an opportunity he missed, we all should take him as an example...
"These guns were susceptible to dirt"
*Flashbacks to using a mud-soaked C93 in BF1*
old ck44 in battlefield 1 EVERYTHING was coated in dirt
just press X to clean
Pay respects to hold f
@@stacksofslaps7442 clean them with lead
@@sevenchair5594 Yeah if there's Any build up then your rounds just aren't hot enough.
Imagine how futuristic this thing looked when it was introduced to the world.
It's time to drink water
@@999JJX3 Wat?
@@Joke_Bidumb I got a translate to english prompt on your comment and once I clicked it a wifi password was revealed.
Looks like a vintage Mac 10/ uzi
Looks futuristic today. Now pistols are just blocks
"The customer is always right"
Hugo Borchardt: "nein"
i also say "nein" a lot
sounds like amy from amy's baking company
NoComment Gaming Miau? Miau miau!
NoComment Gaming Miau? Miau miau!
Lmao man
Dutch van der Linde approves this video.
+ArthurAlcantara YES!
+ArthurAlcantara It always felt awkward when you walk in with the same gun.
+Carolus Rex I left the gang when they left me to die
ArthurAlcantara as a matter of fact I do
Dutch Van Der Linde be nicer to Molly. And don’t trust Micah!
Them god damn o'driscolls are out of control
Izz. Lva HEY MISTER
HEY THERE!
There you are Lenny !
Howdy partner
You awrigh gurl...
4:10 A reason why a mag well in the grip seems so natural comes from neurological practicality: Your hands will always find their way together, whether in the dark or you're otherwise not looking at them at all. If you have a magazine in one hand, you can effectively slot it into your other hand by instinct alone.
Good point
there's actually some specific name for the perception of the position of one's body that those pedants who say that humans have way more than 5 senses came up with. and I'm pretty sure that it's extra accurate for the hands.
@@Ass_of_Amalek Proprioception
@@MrCoolioPants yes
Much better than calico lol
So why does this Luger have a tumor?
+Ben M lol
lee yi xian i did
The tumor I think you are talking about is the main spring assembly, and yeah, it's one of the pistols biggest shortcomings, because of how excessively large it is. But what can we expect from one of the first self loading pistols? The gun was developed in 1893.
The first self loading pistol was the Schönberger-Laumann, developed in 1892. The Guycot 1879 is also a debatable contender for the title of first self loading pistol, but it loads with a chain assembly, rather than a spring assembly. So these things haven't been around very long, and therefore flaws are to be expected in these old models.
Because Luger was the first cancer doctor, and her father refused to do the operation himself.
Why is yousa so weak with powa of the dark side?
One of my favorite guns for killin those god damn o’driscolls
Arthur Morgan Personally, I prefer Billy Midnights Gun, mostly because it’s the earliest possible access to a Mauser C-96 simi-Auto pistol and you can get it right before the Valentine bar fight. Downside is it cannot be upgraded but nevertheless, it’s a nice one too have right off the start if you’re not into revolvers.
That being said however, there’s an awkward glitch in fighting the police in San Denis which causes them to drop the “Simi-Auto- pistol. You just have to be ready to run in and grab it when and/or if it drops.
@@JARedwolf100
Mauser isn't as fast as semi auto. But it does more dmg
Todd Howard I prefer the Mauser due to the ammo complicity, not so much damage and all that. Head shoots and explosive ammo renders points useless for its one hit kill.
@@JARedwolf100
But headshots are boring. Varmint Rifle is for all your headshot needs
Inv1ns1bl I won’t be dead till the name O’driscoll is dead
I bought one of them back in 1899 for an astounding $210. Really a fine piece of equipment, worth the high price.
hello my fellow definitely-not-vampire, so what is your opinion on the quite more expensive kalthoff repeater?
@@wojtekswat7503 a musket that is able to shoot semi-automatic? Revolutionary.
i preferred the colt 1892 navy & army. it was cheaper and packed more of a punch.
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Reality is closer to the total inverse of your comment, with its implication that the C93 Borchardt used the design of the Luger, because, as the video covered, the C93 was the direct predecessor to the Luger, even to the extent that the Luger likely wouldn't have existed if Borchardt had accepted constructive criticism and made the improvements that various world militaries, especially the Swiss, were asking for him to make to the C93.
@@NickC_222 ok boomer
@@Krisztian08 Shut the fuck up you arent funny
@@Krisztian08 bruh. Not the time
I don't know what it is but I really love this gun!
Dutch Van Der Linde HEY MISTER
Dutch Van Der Linde half the time you don’t even use a pistol u use a revolver
Tahiti
So why did you used two engraved Schofields back in 1899?
@@GunsNGames1 He didn't see the C93 yet, he found one between 1899 and 1911, between RDR 1 amd 2
List of comments
90 % red dead redemption
9% battlefeild 1
1% like the gun
0,05% comments about listing comments
I guess I can call myself a 1 percenter.
While I have played both battlefield 1 and the red dead redemtion games, I did know of this pistol before that. Does that make me all percents?
What about the guy who's all 3?
call of dutty ww2
"this is serial number 68..."
*_We were this damn close!_*
we were on the verge of greatness
Was going to like this. Had to preserve the number of likes though. For the greater good.
@@thecallankids4718 it's now 121 so it's ruined but good to go
Omg
Somewhere, I hope Borchardt 69 is appreciated by its owner for its true value.
“We gotta stop meeting like this, John.”
I remember helping my father prep one for auction that ended up selling for $31,550, truly a piece of art
I misread the title of this video as it scrolled past my recommendations as "The first self-loathing pistol."
Lmfao
Hey, gimme back my gun!
“I have a plan John, it’s a good one.”
Oh youre gonna like this one
*yeets the pistol like it's trash*
"Our memes have passed John."
*yeet*
The most intimidating T-pose I’ve seen so far.
I'm sorry, but I think this pistol is absolutely beautiful.
You are not the only one.
Taylor Perry it looks like it has a giant ballsack hanging out its ass
But yes very beautiful
get battlefield 1 then
MC Mickey Probably will.
I thought the same thing, its a piece of functional art and history.
I saw this at a gun show in October, I was awe struck by it, including the 5 figure price tag!
+Richard Granger Ouch,
Would love to know what he thought of Luger in hindsight or the massive success and fame his design went on to have simply cuz he worked with customers instead of snubbing his nose at them.
Considering he never wanted to change anything to begin with, he was probably as salty as man can be
"Have the girl, John. Shes a parting gift from me."
@Bongo Cat brains on the wall
"Goddamn!"
It's amazing how rapidly semiautomatics developed after this, a 1900 Browning (actually designed 1896) looks startlingly modern by comparison!
Did anyone think 'Red Dead Redemption' as soon as they saw this?
Oliver yes
Edit: I'm still regarding the great history of the tern of the century weponds through into the great war. My favorite era for firearms.
no
Stonewall Jackson Are you sure? I can recall vividly this gun in RDR
yes. one of the 4 self reloading guns in the game... shame that nobody plays it anymore at least not in multiplayer.
+Stonewall Jackson I have pretty much the same situation, after playing the normal game and undead nightmare a 1000 times from start to finish it's not the same. there should be a channel called forgotten games ha ha
The unmatched firerate makes it a prime O’Driscoll killing device!
I know that everybody knows this was in RD2R, in fact, it's my favourite pistol in that game. But I honestly love the design of this weapon, as well as the mechanisms in it.
I've been replaying the campaign modded, trying to make it more realistic and giving the weapons realistic reload times as well as removing weapons magically reloading themselves in their holster or when dead-eyeing really highlights just how much of sign of the times changing magazine-fed self-loaders was.
Honestly. This is one of the best gun channels on TH-cam! So many guns I don't get to see anywhere else.
Borchardt- No one can top my gun!
Luger- Oh yeah?!
John Browning- Pffft...
+Microzombie Step away from the confederate flag, sir.
.......what?
Borchardt literally thought that his gun was perfect. No one could make a better gun. Georg Luger and John Browning then proceeded to make Borchardt look stupid with the P08 and M1911.
Microzombie. Yes and Mauser with the C96, FN (Belgium) with its FN M1900 and Colt with its M1900. That's just mentioning a few that proceeded the Luger P08 and Colt M1911. A small thing too you also don't mention is that Borchardt's design was used as an *influence* and *basis* for their own designs. Without the C93 its highly doubtful the would even have the impetus to develop their own improved designs. Any engineer, designer or inventor worth his or her name revere designs that were an important influence to their own.
IF Borchardt really said that - which I highly doubt as it's coming from somebody who obviously thinks online pissing contests is how designers behave, especially in the late 19th century - then he was correct when his revolutionary new semi-automatic pistol was new. What revolver at that time could compete with it?
If it's anybody that looks stupid it's you with that infantile mindset.
Not a high school pissing contest. Understand?
Watch the damned video and you will know that he said his pistol was perfect and the design couldn't be improved and basically made a massive idiot out of himself because you have Georg Luger patenting his improved toggle lock pistol in 1898, only four years after Borchardt claimed that his pistol's design couldn't be improved upon.
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John Browning and Colt came up with their own semi-automatic pistol that actually had NOTHING to do with the C93.
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FN's M1900. I highly doubt that a toggle lock with a massive recoil spring in a gigantic tumor above the grip had anything to do with the design of a much smaller and much better gun that happened to use a similar round.
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The only thing the C96 Mauser has in common with the C93 was the ammunition being the same size. Even then the Mauser ammunition had much hotter loads.
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As for me thinking that late 19th early 20th century gun designers acted like people on the internet. I'm not even going to dignify that with a response.
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Ok, what I want you to do now, is look at yourself and ask, "Do I have a sense of humor?" Obviously the joke isn't how it went. You must have very little faith in the intelligence of other human beings if you thought I was being serious. Now that you've made an ass out of yourself, I'd like to congratulate you on the condescension in your comment. Well done. Bravo. Dick.
Neat! I love the history of the development of firearms.
What a beautiful gun, I’ve seen it before... once... either in one of my old man’s gun mags or in a gun documentary. The 90 degree angle between the handle and the barrel makes it look like a very fun, straight gun to shoot. The originator / predecessor of the shape and feel of the legendary Luger/ruger. I had a .22 Ruger for a while, well, my dad did. Nice gun but it jammed a bit too often, the .22’s would tumble inside the loading mechanism too often.
Great video! Thank you so much!
Wow. I said all that before I heard you speak. Awesome.
I've read that the 90 degree grip was a significant disadvantage of the design, hence why the Luger changed it.
I've got a plan, we just need some money. And some gotdam faith!
lol
And noise a lot of noise
Im sick of these red dead refrences
Red dead redemption
Borch Y Aw, the doubting...the endless doubting.
This should be the basis of a new Star Wars weapon. It looks so unique and awesome. Amazing how creative people can be.
It is now. The Mandolorian uses it
@@brink8993
No he doesn't? Mandalorian carries a Bergmann 1894.
Joey Mobb oops
@@joeymobb8438 you mean 1894
@@hdexotic1914
Fixed
Excellent video Ian. I was always curious about the Borchardt. As an owner of a P-08 Luger, the close relationship between the designs is very obvious. I wish you could have disassembled the gun, but as others have noted, given the five figure value of the gun, especially being such and early serial number and in such good condition for a 120 year old gun, I fully understand your (and Rock Island's) reluctance to screw with it. If you do ever get a chance to disassemble a Borchardt on video, I would love for you to disassemble a P-08 right beside it to show how Georg Luger modified and refined the design. Keep up the great work, I love these old guns. I also really love it when you show a gun's lineage and how the early firearms built on previous designs.
krmould hi, I dunno if you're still interested but the mobile app 'world of guns' has this on it, you can see how the internals all work and how it assembles and so on. And many other guns on it too!
Jelly of your Luger.
You know if 'main-spring assembly' and 'toggle' offered any benefits? related to greater traverse distance perhaps? , greater wear and impractical that it is is interesting why this design
Every time someone says that have a P-08 Luger a little bit of my soul dies because im jealous
"they're a little susceptible to dirt and dust..."
Rockstar Games: "PUT IT IN OUR WESTERN GAME!"
?
every gun in the world is susceptible to dirt and dust, are you dumb?
@@hdexotic1914 you dumbass, he's talking about a game with a shitload of dust flying around
You can clean your gun tho
That's the reason you're able to clean your weapons in RDR2!
I still love the C96 more than any pistol. But this is a gun you never forget once you've seen it.
Back when Borders book stores still existed, my grandma used to let me pick out books to buy and one time I decided to get an encyclopedia of firearms. The Borchardt was in the book and then later that year, we got a new librarian at my school and her name was Jana Borchardt. I was so exited to tell her that there was a gun with her last name.
I never thought a lot about C93- P.08 always seemed to look better to my eye, but now, when I saw it in this video- it's BEAUTIFUL!
Really love the wood-ball bottom of the magazine. I can definitely see how it's nice from a style standpoint, and also a good way to feel your way to removing the mag in dark/wet conditions.
I like how I haven’t played read dead redemption in like 6 years but I still know this is the pistol Dutch used
"Let the girl go dutch!"
"Acorse.... course...."
*Ends up killing the girl*
Borchardt is right. This pistol is perfect. No improvements were needed.
Especially with a stock.
The subtitles are great, the extra asides and remarks added a lot to watching.
“Luger, I’m your father”😉
This gold comment was flooded by red dead redemption related comments.
Such an underrated comment
Nein! That's nicht true! That's impossible!
Best comment, by far. Let's send it to the top!
C93 came first you idiot
This thing looks so elegant it's unbelievable
I just realized how good you are at teaching history and explaining things.
Idk why but this has always been my favourite gun and just love the design and the fact that it’s the Predecessor to the Luger
I love the look of these "skeletonized" early pistols, the tolerances are just amazing to look at
I love that i can tune in to a 5 year old video and it has the same excellent quality and attention to detail as your modern work. Fantastic job, Ian!
2 years ago: BattLEfiEld oNe!!!
Now: rED deAd ReDemTiOn!!!!
Redemption*
Bf1 all the way
They’re both fantastic games
redemption**
Jesus, why are you angry?
Every book about fire arms and the history of fire arms always had a picture of this pistol in the hand gun section
I can't believe that, with all the Forgotten Weapons vids I have watched, I just kept putting this "goofy, ugly thing" off. And now I see it completely differently.
Very relevant developmentally, and historically.
Thanks Ian. Great video.
"Only 3,000 of these pistols were made"
The 1.3 million read dead redemption 2 players: those are rookie numbers
Forgotten weapons rock!
ayyyye
What makes me drive is the quality of the machinery, very precise in its lines, the sounds that makes when pulls here and there, and the solid state of the gun, one very artistically made weapon.
1:06 the closed caption: "they'd fail the testing because they weren't all that good (like me in school)" lmao
Sounds like Borchardt and Glock had the same mindset about their pistol being perfect despite what a bazillion other people thought.
slattman1509abn Expect glock is actually near perfect, maybe you might not like the looks but it’s practical and gets the job done.
Glock fan boy detected
I hate Glocks personally. Owned 1 and will never buy another
Black Cat, maybe you didn’t have the 18 😏
@@brianc2923 Every polymer pistol today is practical and gets the job done. It's just that every other brand has a better stock trigger than Glock these days.
I wrote an article for TFB many summers ago on this pistol. Unfortunately I was not able to take any real measurements or conduct any further inspection of the weapon beyond holding it and operating. The owner informed me it was of .32 caliber which I then found to be incorrect. However, he did tell me that although the magazine could hold 8 rounds to only load 6 or 7 due to some feeding issues caused by an exceptionally stout spring. I was also informed that the stock that originally belonged to the gun doubled as a holster and that the weapon could be used whilst in its holster. I cannot confidently say that this is true either. However it may not be far fetched to imagine that some intrepid tinkerer created his own holster that would function as a stock. Although no records of this exist.
This is a truly fascinating piece of firearms history. I am quite glad that I was able to be exposed to such a pivotal weapon in my early years of firearms study.
+Weerd2normal2 The stock was actually used as a holster, sort of. The stock itself was a thin flat board, and a leather holster was attached to the side of it, so that it didn't take up any additional space when being carried.
Used to use one of these in the trenches of France and now I’m duel wielding silver ones in the south of 1899
It Well shows that he influenced many designs magazines, magazine release, safety with "properly locations" there may have been others that noticed that. A very important and interesting time in firearms designs.
Finally a proper video on the C93 Borchardt thank you! :-)
I don't know much about firearms, but this gun looks like it's in an extremely good condition considering it being over 100 years old. It says that it is 50 percent refinished on the RIA website, but it still looks "new".
+griffn14 I don't think that it's seen much field use.
+griffn14
It being expensive and fairly rare even in those days, as well as being (most likely) a civilian firearm rather than military all adds up to it probably not seeing much use then was stored in the years since.
+sergeantbigmac Thanks for the replies! Yeah, it was probably much more underused than used. :-)
You should make a play lists in chronological order by type of fire arm that way new people can get to see some of the older videos like this and see how things develop with time
What an opportunity to hold one in your hands.
Always thought I should own one of those. The closest I ever came was an old Luger that looked like it came off the showroom floor along with extra mag holster and cleaning kit. Sure wish I had kept it, I did take her out to the range and put her through her paces. I started with some surplus 9mm, the moved on to some ball ammo even put some good hollow points through her, she never burped giggled or farted, just kept on shooting. If I wasn't looking for a carry gun, I think I would have kept it, but this was early in my collecting and at the time I wanted a modern 9mm, so I sent it to a gun show with a dealer I knew, he came back with an old Radom which just pissed me off because I had no idea what the hell that gun even was. Instead of accepting that, he gave me a 1917 Enfield full sporter with fancy inlayed stock that could put three round in a dime at 100 yards, and a model 36 Chief's Special. Guess I made out OK, I ended up trading the Enfield for a set of tires for my Ford LTD, and traded the Chief's Special for a Model 59 Smith that was new in the box at the Red Owl Grocery Store in Pierre South Dakota while I was attending a class at the Police Academy there. Oh to have those days to live over again, knowing then what I know today, but alas those days are gone, gone like my lovely wife of 51 years and 4 days who I recently lost to that evil Bitch Cancer.
I remember seeing one of these a while back at an Albuquerque gun show, with the stock and all. It looked like it was brand new! Beautiful gun, honestly.
Even with its design flaw, it’s a badass looking pistol!
Let's see... Low bore axis, fixed barrel, super cool appearance, looks like something that would be accurate and easy to shoot, who wouldn't want one? Looks like a candidate for a latter day re-introduction. I like it!
Yes!
Finally!
A C-93!
Definitely has a pre-Lugerish look to it.
That huge blob looks like it will act like a counterweight?
Interesting pistol 😉🤞🚬
Glad you taking care of you fire arm. Sooo many people don't
Treat it like your own child!
I love the background you provide for these weapons. You have done your home work!
That pistol is in fantastic shape for it's age, you can tell the previous owner really took good care of it.
There needs to be a gun company that remakes old guns like this.
Uberti could remake it in 7.62mm Tokarev. It’s dimensionally very similar.
It’s nice to see you John
That is one of the coolest looking guns ever.
The fact that the handle is almost at a neutral 90 degree angle, the proportions of the upper, and my natural mental image of how one holds a handgun, always makes me see this gun and do a double take where I'm like "wait, what's with this design, if you hold it, the barrel is pointing..." You know.
Beautiful gun, first I saw the gun in a game was order 1886, just incredibly pretty design.
"Bulbous, weird, overhanging thing" Impossible to describe it better.
The C93 is a super interesting design.
Cool channel, you get to work with some really amazing firearms.
@3:51that's such a pleasing click.
A nice part of automatic pistol history. a collector.
best example of early pistol craftsmanship.
you always got a plan dutch
HAVE SOME GOD DAMN FAITH
@@gamaactive8278 WE NEED MORE MONEY
@@thunderstrikerboy TO GET TO TAHITI
@@gamaactive8278 "Revenge is a luxury we cannot afford"
*kills everyone*
@@thunderstrikerboy lol
“We can't always fight nature, John. We can't fight change. We can't fight gravity. We can't fight nothin'. My whole life, John, all I ever did was fight.”
“But I can't give up neither. I can't fight my own nature. That's the paradox, John. You see?”
“When I'm gone they'll just find another monster. They have to justify their wages.”
“Our time is passed, John.”
Your videos are very great, loads of detail and description. Thank you.
This was, as always, very insightful. Thank you, your efforts are greatly appreciated!
Anyone think of Red Dead Redemption ?
+TheJESSASS yes sir
Oh yeah
yup
+TheJESSASS its also in the order 1886
This gun is a absolute monster in RDR
I had no idea that this was the direct predecessor to the Luger. Very interesting.
What a beautiful firearm with a lot of interesting history. Thanks for sharing this one!
The C93 just looks cool and unique.
Thank you FW! I always wanted to know where the Luger got it's feet from. I was always told that it never was designed fully from the ground up, yet never really found the gun where it's inspiration came from.
? who comes thumbs down this shit ?!
+Erik Hess Georg Luger, probably.
+Forgotten Weapons Oh you.
+Erik Hess Someone who doesn't have $30,000 to buy it.
+Erik Hess trolls or anti-gun enthusiasts
me
Fantastic classic pistol, great video, Well Done.
Just wanted to say i just recently started watching alot of your videos and really like them/the format, especially your comparison of the svd and the wa2000.
Now this is just some personal opinion, but i really like your history side of the video, live testing and discussion of the guns and the occasional side by side comparisons. Im a little less interested in the technical aspects but can appreciate it, i just wish there was a little more of the other stuff versus the technical breakdowns which tend to take up the majority of the video. Again just my personal taste and regardless love your videos and have learned much from you, keep up the great work!
Ian, I continue to appreciate your effort to get pronunciations right. As for "Loewe", you are saying "low" and you can improve it somewhat by adding another syllable. Try saying "vuh" after "low", but keep the stress on the "low".
At the end of the day, there's just a lot of sounds in other languages that don't exist in English and it's difficult to teach their exact pronunciation with TH-cam comments... I studied linguistics and, if there was any practical way to do it, I would be happy to give you more pronunciation tips that would help you with any language in the world.
No one is really that concerned with him butchering a few words here and there in languages he doesn't speak himself.
BurnThePope0514 I know that. But he cares about it himself. He's always saying he hopes he's not mispronouncing anything, and that's an effort that everyone really should appreciate, because there aren't many people out there trying that hard.
+Forgotten Weapons This might help: www.duden.de/_media_/audio/ID4114192_104703350.mp3
+LJVolkov21 Very few people are actually aware of the significance of correct language. Knowing how to use language correctly will also enable us to think correctly.
J. Martinni Perfect.
I'm an Indian and I saw this pistol in Darbar Hall Museum,Junagadh. There were also a Colt pistol (though i don't remember the model number),two Luger p08s,Some Multi-barreled revolvers and Big bored Elephant guns at there.i also saw some bolt actions there (of Lee-enfield and Mauser pattern).
Those multi-barreled revolvers have a specific term "Pepper box"..i saw three pepper box revolvers at there.
What a beauty...love to have that in my collection
watching with subtitles on improves the video XD
the bonus commentary is gold