Question on the glass trans. If this is weak point is the rebuild a mod to handle additional power or is it just a factory rebuild back to standard glass? Thanks
Currently sitting on 400 WHP with my WRX stock internals. Thankfully I have a tuner that told me everything I need to know about what things I needed to keep my care from blowing. After all the performance and supporting mods that he recommended my car has had zero problems at 80k miles. Shout out to Drunkmann tuning! 😁
Bought my 17' with 16k miles and had the MAPerformance intake plus their included tune installed at 20k miles. The tune was a night and day difference from stock and made the car feel like it had some top range pull. Then went with the Invidia R400 catted exhaust and MAPerformance catted j-pipe installed (MAPerformance J-pipe included yet another free tune) and my god the car finally felt like it should have came from the factory. It finally felt like it had a consistent pull through the entire rev range and the little extra burbles and pops mixed with the intake turbo noises just puts a smile on your face. Also have the e60 map that I throw on from time to time just to have a little fun with some go-go juice but I normally don't run that tune daily. My car has now 60k miles and not a single check engine light.
Perrin shifter bushing front and rear, kartboy short shift plate, trans mount, Perrin pitch stop.. daily driver mods for my stock 2020 WRX. Cleans the car up in so many aspects with a couple hundred bucks. And getting 33 mph on the highway is also a plus.
@@ranran2218 well at 32k I got a 91 ots tune and an e30 ots tune from maperformance. That fun lasted till 62k miles where I added Cobb jpipe,ebcs, grimmspeed intake, changed bpv, Perrin turbo inlet, grimmspeed top mount intercooler, aem340 fuel pump, tuned by Ron Watson for e60/91. It’s not much faster than the e30 ots tune but I like it
I will never modify my base model 2017 WRX. To me the car is perfect the way it is. I'm waiting for the new 2022 STI. I can't wait to see the exterior, interior, and engine of this new beast. Thank you for making this video. I only put OEM foglights, a vortex generator and a STI shift knob on so far. Rally Armor mudflaps are next.
I just dont like the e-throttle response. Mine came with an STI short shifter so the throws aren't too bad, but I did add a shift adapter to minimize the side-to-side movement. But I'm also waiting for the next gen STI
@@mrch33sehed93 oh yeah. I'm telling you brother we are going to be in for a real treat when the new STI comes out. Let's hope Subaru doesn't screw it up
Running a conservative E60 tune for almost 2 years. Stock internals, stock trans, stock IC, stock turbo, protuned 352 whp. Have not had an ounce of trouble. Great car to consider!
I did and i have the first of the first, the VA 2015 and base... I don't beat on it daily but use it and abuse it and as long as you are not on that throttle 24/7 and you KEEP UP with maintenance and not by what the car manuals say, you will be fine. Currently, mine is essentially full bolt-on at 87k and hasn't had to replace a block, rod, or anything. Just maintain it well and don't treat it like you are on the track every day.
I STi Drivetrain swapped my '19 WRX with a MapDCCD controller, also prior modifications included a TGV+EGR Delete and dyno-tune, that fixed almost all my complaints with the car.
The 2015 wrx fa20 is gaining so much traction!!! This car is going to be worth so much money in the future!!! Better get one before they shoot up to insane prices!!!
im at 50k miles with a invidia catted downpipe and intermediate pipe and a cobb big sf intake and i must say going stage 2+ i have had no problems at all from the ots tune. i do plan on getting a pro tune or e tune just for the longevity on the car. great car to drive.
@@andrewtejada3164 True that, there is that benefit with the power curve and I've definitely read about it. I'm planning on doing tons of track days. But yeah Stage 1 is probably as far as I'd go
pros and cons of modifying an STI: Pros - Slightly more power - Awesome rumble exhaust note - Pops and bangs when downshifting if you're aftermarket dp and tune - Awesome cornering and AWD system (with good tire set) - fairly inexpensive compared to other vehicles in it's sector Cons - Still slow - Heat soaks like a mf - expensive as hell to squeeze good HP - super delicate so don't hoon with it for the first 10 minutes from cold start - expensive if you need to fix I own one and I can say it's good and bad at the same time lol. My experience with the car is good, I haven't had major issues with the car like some other people. 2018 sti running the stage 2+ from MAP (intake and dp with stock fuel system) and it has been great, already 11K miles and going. Sucks that modifying this car is so expensive for literally 400whp. Fun to own for a few years, but good luck on the used market, these cars are ticking time bombs once modified because of the damn 4th cyl.
You’re better off modding an older one Moding ones after 2010 are expensive My 06 sti makes ez 400hp Just a bigger turbo and an e tune Also, I have a 2018 type RA short block in it. That helps
@@blackfacegaming191 you need a little more than a bigger turbo and an e-tune for 400hp though. Fuel rails, injectors, fuel pump, fuel press reg, tgv deletes, air pump delete, fp black, intercooler, dp.. I had the og 04 some time ago, and all that got me 410 whp with a pro tune. This in 2006 was killer since turbo cars were not like it is today. My 2018 has only the map stage 2 and I’m lucky if I hit 310whp.
@@jacobschroeder5014 twin scroll turbos and equal length headers are underrated. Why don't the old STIs from Japan break as much as US ones? Clearly because of that irregular engine pulse design with unequal length headers. Yes if we change it our cars will sound like Hondas but still 💁
I recently picked up a 2020 wrx. First thing i did was the cobb accessport. Immediately followed by a short shift kit with bushings, plate and shift stop. Yes. The factory shifter is that bad. It's comparable to an old work truck. Honestly I think my work truck had less slop. But throw was about the same.🤣
Some people can blow up a tank. You need to know your cars limits and look after them. I change the oil and oil filter in both our cars every 5000km. Many would call that overkill, I call it cheap preventative maintenance. My old charger has close to 100,000km in this engine and has negligible blow by.
Yesterday, I tried to buy a 2021 model but it wasn’t there when I got to the dealer (The dealership decided to sell it at auction instead :() Today, there’s a 2020 WRX that I’m eyeing on and will check it out later. Hopefully everything will go smoothly…that it goes all the way to my hands
drove an STi a couple weeks ago and dear god that thing was fast as shit, im a Brz 2dr coupe kind of guy, i dont like 4 doors/sedans (im single amd dont need all the space) but my god that STi is making me rethink
Don't do it because it ends up costing more then that sti. Atleast it will if you go with the 15+wrx with the Fa and want to make real power. Trust me I know it well. I have a 2017 WRX currently making 600+awhp 34psi all the way to 8,000RPM. With fully built longblock motec ECU, port injection, turbo kit every modification possible and a full Sti transmission swap. The money to power ratio is crap. But if your goal is just some bolt on parts and flex fuel it's a great car. I love my car even with all the money I've spent. It's an animal but most people don't want to spend that on a car
Your car is wild. I commented on some of your vids before lol. I feel like the cost of fbo+flex and possibly an fp blue is reasonable to put someone right around 400whp. I'm almost all bolt ones and flex and I'm barley scraping by at 350whp, it's a fun daily but nothing "fast". I want to build it but the money isn't there yet, it's like I can afford the turbo, ewg, and tune but then I'm barley able to put money down for a transmission upgrade. Then I need to do the block as well, and that is over budget. I want more zoom zoom but need more monies :(
@@luvhcchris thank you so much! I need to work on my channel to busy to put more into it. Yah that was what happened with me. I had full bolt on and flex fuel and I think I made 340 if that on stock block so I just pulled the stock longblock and Trans. End of the story I'm 60k deep in modifications and I'm still not making what I think I should. But it's still insane power especially with anti lag
@@luvhcchris Honestly just take your time don't go past the recommended levels and save up for as long as possible. Once you get the money needed to build it you can decide then if you still want to.
I purchased an 06 WRX new... I was able to afford the STI but I figured they both come with same 2.5 and I'll save $6k...boy do I regret not getting the STI. I still have my hawk eye and its putting down 306whp... but I wish it was an STI. Working on building an engine and hopefully making it to 400whp soon.
Spun a rod bearing with hardly any power mods at just over 100k :( , now I have a stage 1 iag short block fully built still sitting at around 320 protuned would love to make more power with my brand spankin new motor
Lots of pros. These cars make 400whp all day with quality parts and a quality tuner. I've been on my 370/400whp maps since January of 2017. Never had an issue. Push the car all the time.
Ron tuned my stock wrx to 350/350. Feels amazing! Also asked him for the crackle tune and send it at 400/370. Definitely faster! Next mods are gonna be exterior.
I’ve ordered my 2021 WRX. Due to Covid issues the availability of 2021s in my area (central Maine) is pretty poor and I found that I could get one equipped the way I wanted and get the best deal since I was willing to wait for it. I’m waiting on my pure red, base model equipped with factory short throw shifter and red accent lighting package. Only another 4-8 more weeks…..
@@tylerp3397 Congrats. What color? I ordered the base model because I plan on ordering a 2024 STI when they become available. That’s my bucket list car LOL.
I’m making 325 hp 360 torque and I think that’s enough power for me. I’m not trying to go any further. * Invidia R400 Catback exhaust * Cobb Accessport * Cobb Big Sf Intake * Grimmspeed JPipe * Grimmspeed TMIC * Grimmspeed Boost controller solenoid * Grimmspeed Charge pipe * Boomba BPV * IAG Air/Oil Separator * Spec D sequential Led Tail lights
Will spin a bearing or have blowby or valvetrain clogging but hey, totally worth a 100 less hp than a camaro for about the same price the reality is, you're going to feel a lot of grief before a 100k.
Bro ignore him, he is on a subaru vid talking shit about a car he doesn't have. Why he is falling the channel is beyond me cause he is a camaro fanboy. Which is fine if thats the car you like.
@@somersfamily I'm not a particular fanboy of any make or car and do drive a wrx and from experience, it's a absolutely tragically bad car. One that requires a die with 5 spaces of luck and 1 space of spending 10s of k to make the car not a complete pile of shit. The shifting sucks, tune sucks, sound sucks, acceleration sucks, speed sucks, dit carbon b.s sucks, egr and tgv suck, understeer sucks, seating position sucks, pedal spacing sucks, throttle input (tuning) sucks, higher rpm dips suck, factory abnormal knock sucks, reliability sucks. I never drove a camaro in my life, never even sat my ass in passenger seat. Have driven mustangs, many, except the gt350, last gen gt500, this gen gt500, and everything about those is more fun, receptive to driver input, sounds better, and mostly faster. I really am starting to want to get into v8s, then I can just drive off the lot with a car that I don't have to do the equivalent of spending money in Vegas to make fast and eventually grenade motor. Being a white knight and come to the aid if your little internet buddy, what a fucking beta cunt.
@@remissiveslave someone else asked about my car, glad you felt like you had to add you're 2 cents go find something to do other then talk shit on the internet
trying to get my Forester XT up to 315-ish torque and over 300 hp. I think that'll keep me happy... for a while at least while I save for the fabled turbo BRZ or the next gen rex
got around 167whp on my wrx. It's a blast. I'd be happy with 288whp one day. Hopefully the car can take it. I'm thinking about getting an intake from you guys.
@@silvia12319 no you won't believe the power i got now with 167. I'm not sure my motor can handle 300. I'll just be at 288 one day with the Intake I'm thinking about getting . That 12 more hp may blow my motor. So I'll call it quits at 288
If you have the money for buy the wrx NEW but you know the Pro and Cons you still buy ?? Or with that money you buy another car ?? Which?? It have to be awd
Im getting a 19wrx with very low miles reason? cheap, auto, looks good and yeah so much cheaper than a STi here a STi run 60k and up. Wanted to add only mod's I might do would be intake and exhaust I don't want massive power this car will be a daily for all seasons in Canada land.
Lol I literally just ordered my AP, gonna try to just run the MAP Stage 1 OTS tune with no other mods for my daily. Hopefully should be good....Do the comment section'ers agree?
@@somersfamily good to know! Thanks. My guess is those people who bash them are running all mismatched brands of parts and expecting an OTS to work for them. Who knows. I figure if i leave the car stock the parts will act as they should. Thanks for the reply!
If you ever do go stage 2(which is very noticeable) make sure you go catted. The brand really doesn’t matter. The stage 2 ots tune is meant for catted downpipes
@@benbattista5035 The people bashing OTS tunes know what OTS tunes are. They are not good as a long term solution. I've run Cobb and MAP OTS tunes and while it was better than stock, they weren't much to write home about. The problem with OTS tunes is they are generic. Your engine, at your elevation and climate is going to behave very differently than another identical engine at a different elevation, etc.... so OTS tunes are made to work with a very broad range of conditions. That means they make a LOT of compromises. After running OTS tunes and being dissatisfied we went with a grimmspeed catted jpipe, grimmspeed e port EBCS, cat back and got etuned from Torqued Performance. Completely different animal. Worth every bit of the couple thousand spent. No intakes, no BOV's (those are noise makers not power adders).
@@somersfamily If that was your experience you would be the first person I've ever seen who preferred an OTS tune over a custom etune. Are you sure you didn't buy a different tuners OTS map? Who was the etune done by and how many revisions did they take to dial in your car?
Highly recommend the Verticooler of the grimmspeed tmic to replace your factory tmic. Helps your car run a lot cooler with the new power you’re going to have
Stage 1 is just a 91/93 tune which helps the car out tremendously. So I wouldn't see why doing a e30 tune with stock intake and exhaust would be any different. I've seen some builds on e30 with cai hit 300.
I would do mild bolt on for a daily .. I'm looking at these for a daily. I have a 700whp roushcharged Mustang on pump gas as a fun weekend car... On TE37s and drag radials. I'm looking at a focus st, a gti, and wrx.. which is best for a daily with mild bolt and and tune? I live in the sticks as well so cold winters and snow tires
Currently driving a '20 WRX. I do love the FA engine but she is a fucking diva. Knock events for the slightest bump in the road. Currently waiting for a j-pipe and intake. Should be about 350 crank hp and that's enough for me for a daily.
@@dinkledoge9777 have to tune for both. Cobb used to offer an OTS map for it but have stopped for their new jpipe arrival. So I'm gonna get it to fire up and have my buddy remote tune it
I still would rather build my 1998 gc8 Impreza into the STI. I feel like it'll be a unique car when I'm done with it. This is just my opinion, but I'm not really too hip on the new WRX and STI. Anything from my year (MY98) to 2012, I would consider getting. I feel kinda feel the same way about the Evos as well. Even though the Evo X looks mean aggressive I still prefer the older models of the Mitsubishi Evolution. There's just something about the way that the Mitsubishi evolution and Subaru WRX/STI were made back then that seem more...appealing to me.
@@nikesbeast i was trying to hold off on flex fuel until i reached 36k miles, that way i can just pull my bolt ons, flash back to stock and see what the dealership says when i go for warranty work
@@Dazai_Ren e tune smee tune. I've had an e tune from a main guy every one loves and it ran like shit over the tuen from ma that I've been running for 4 years. No issue's. This tuner tells me its always gonna knock down low and no way to get rid of it. I told him he is full of shit and went back to the ma tune. Don't believe everything everyone tells you
All those problems that he lists at the beginning are literally all ej engine problems but he says its the STI that people can't afford XD interesting.
I have a 2020 WRX Base, and already ordered a Greddy Remark 4" Axel back system, and about to order the stage 1+ Kit from MAPerformance. I thought I could just get a cold air intake and be done but nooooo. You have to get a COBB access port and get it tuned haha. Quick question though, I also got a TurboXS 50/50 BoV and was told by my Subaru Dealership that it would be fine with the car, but he would want me to have it tuned so the MAF knows its dumping half the air. Is that something you guys would recommend? I just want that fat turbo woosh when I get off the gas and thought this would be a good way to go about it.
I have been building my 2020 WRX Premium CVT (yes, I know, but rush hour traffic and constant shifting is lame). Easiest way to remember: BPV = No tune, BOV = Yes tune. Also I love Cobb and MAPerformance but don't flash OTS tunes and think you're done. You need to add a boost controller and get a protune. Probably 7-800 all in. Any catback or further exhausts need no tune as well. The fact that your dealership told you to to go and get a tune because of the MAF changes speaks to their integrity. Understand that if something breaks and it can be determined the tune was the problem, warranty will not cover. Hope all this helps. Happy tuning!
the "glass transmission" was mostly attributed to the last gen wrx's. the transmission in the 15+ wrx's is much stronger. don't me wrong the sti's is much more robust. Baider Built shows a side by side comparison of all the drive train components and its very obvious the difference.
The clutches in the 2015-2018 are the biggest transmission problem. They go out super quickly to the point that Subaru finally made an updated part mid 2018 to address it.
Anything above 350HP is pushing the Stock FA20, Major weakness of this engine is the angle split connecting rods, Once they bend because of the additional stress the engine is then junk, Most people don't want to spend the money to build the engine properly for the additional power they want to just bolt on parts and hope for the best and when the engine blows the cars are considered "junk" blows my mind every time.
262,XXX Miles on the clock ej257 in an 06 OBXT with regular maintenance. EVEN THOUGH I make that car SPRINT everywhere. Take care of your cars organs, and they won't fail :)
Don't add more power to the CVT, it can't handle the additional torque. Stick to suspension, wheels, tires etc. If you want more power, sell it and get a 6 speed.
@@miguelcervantes3950 the transmission itself should be enough for you to not even buy this car. Especially if you’re buying one used(if your buying one used prepare yourself to spend alot of money). Second the stock tune from factory is horrible and if you buy a access port to put a decent off the shelf tune you immediately void your warranty. Which you’ll 1000% need in the future. A new wrx cost around 33-35k out the door. For 33-35k you can finance a used type r(100% better then a wrx and sometimes a sti), 2019 low mile 5.0, and maybe even a 2019 sti with low miles.
@@blackfacegaming191 a low mile used sti sure since it’ll run you around 36-39k. But a brand new sti will run you around 47 out the day which is not worth “saving” for.
I just need all of you youngsters to understand one thing: 3 Doors is a Hatchback. 5 Doors is a WAGON. I don't care that Subaru's marketing team called them hatchbacks, they were factually wagons.
Hey guys.. I have searched on many forums about the REAL wrx sti consumption. Can someone please give me the REAL numbers like- when driving normal/going fast? Thanks a lot.
I live in Canada so this is in kms.. but I'm sure you can convert this.. I get 8.2L/100kms driving "properly" and depending how hard I go it's anywhere between 9.6L/100km and 11L/100km. Manual and stock except axleback muffler delete from MXP
@@nikesbeast Gs tmic Invidia catless j pipe Ets catback Mishimoto cold air intake Gs ebcs Fp blue turbo Perrin header Perrin change pipe Tgv and egr delete Perrin 3” turbo inlet Iag aos Iag stage1 short block Cobb flex fuel kit Boomba bpv Cobb ap Aem Water meth kit Perrin turbo sump restrictor Dw300 fuel pump. E60 tune. Almost everything I can think of. But going to upgrade to a ewg header soon to be able to get to 500 whp
@@nikesbeast etune. No I actually don’t know my exact number. As I was told from my tuner. There is only one dyno here where I live lol. Gonna take it to run to see the actual number
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Question on the glass trans. If this is weak point is the rebuild a mod to handle additional power or is it just a factory rebuild back to standard glass? Thanks
Currently sitting on 400 WHP with my WRX stock internals. Thankfully I have a tuner that told me everything I need to know about what things I needed to keep my care from blowing. After all the performance and supporting mods that he recommended my car has had zero problems at 80k miles. Shout out to Drunkmann tuning! 😁
Same here. Gotta make sure not to push it when the intake manifold is at 120F degrees or higher. Lol
@@HenDuKee facts! 🤣
@@HenDuKee making me wanna say freak my warranty and do it lol
Stock turbo?
@@nikesbeast yessir
Bought my 17' with 16k miles and had the MAPerformance intake plus their included tune installed at 20k miles. The tune was a night and day difference from stock and made the car feel like it had some top range pull. Then went with the Invidia R400 catted exhaust and MAPerformance catted j-pipe installed (MAPerformance J-pipe included yet another free tune) and my god the car finally felt like it should have came from the factory. It finally felt like it had a consistent pull through the entire rev range and the little extra burbles and pops mixed with the intake turbo noises just puts a smile on your face. Also have the e60 map that I throw on from time to time just to have a little fun with some go-go juice but I normally don't run that tune daily. My car has now 60k miles and not a single check engine light.
All that to still be slow asl
MAP: yo can I copy you?
Fitment industries: yeah sure, just don’t change it up like at all
MAP: bet
Pretty sure MAP got bought by Fitment Industries, saw some email about it few weeks ago.
Hahaha i thought the same thing lol, also, what car dude doesnt know how to pronounce alfa romeo lol
@@donovankelley4802 I think he's talking about the person's name, Eros Banchellini
Perrin shifter bushing front and rear, kartboy short shift plate, trans mount, Perrin pitch stop.. daily driver mods for my stock 2020 WRX. Cleans the car up in so many aspects with a couple hundred bucks.
And getting 33 mph on the highway is also a plus.
Tuned at 32k miles. Still going strong at 83k!
What does your build consist of? Where did you get tuned?
@@ranran2218 well at 32k I got a 91 ots tune and an e30 ots tune from maperformance. That fun lasted till 62k miles where I added Cobb jpipe,ebcs, grimmspeed intake, changed bpv, Perrin turbo inlet, grimmspeed top mount intercooler, aem340 fuel pump, tuned by Ron Watson for e60/91. It’s not much faster than the e30 ots tune but I like it
400WHP stock turbo, motor & trans @94k miles tuned by JR at Prime. The VA chassis & FA20DIT motor is an awesome platform.
Very underrated motor
I agree, many just hate on the Va wrx and on the FA20DIT
Tuned my FA20 wrx at 2k miles and still going strong at 24k miles. I have j-pipe, intake, catback and I’m tuned on e30.
I love the Hawkeye because the front design looks so aggressive and different from the other Subaru’s.
It's a very fun car to drive. I have the world rally blue color and I get tons of compliments on it all the time. Stay safe brother 🙏.
I will never modify my base model 2017 WRX. To me the car is perfect the way it is. I'm waiting for the new 2022 STI. I can't wait to see the exterior, interior, and engine of this new beast. Thank you for making this video. I only put OEM foglights, a vortex generator and a STI shift knob on so far. Rally Armor mudflaps are next.
Amen to that!
You’re really missing out then.. the fa20 is a beast
I just dont like the e-throttle response. Mine came with an STI short shifter so the throws aren't too bad, but I did add a shift adapter to minimize the side-to-side movement. But I'm also waiting for the next gen STI
@@mrch33sehed93 oh yeah. I'm telling you brother we are going to be in for a real treat when the new STI comes out. Let's hope Subaru doesn't screw it up
@@paulmarsdensr1095 fa24dit with an sti trans🤌🏽
Running a conservative E60 tune for almost 2 years. Stock internals, stock trans, stock IC, stock turbo, protuned 352 whp. Have not had an ounce of trouble. Great car to consider!
Is your E60 local? Or do you order it?
@@Ace62595 my accessport and flexfuel kit tell me the ethonal content. I mix 2 gallons of premium and the rest E85 when I fill up 🤟🏻
I did and i have the first of the first, the VA 2015 and base... I don't beat on it daily but use it and abuse it and as long as you are not on that throttle 24/7 and you KEEP UP with maintenance and not by what the car manuals say, you will be fine. Currently, mine is essentially full bolt-on at 87k and hasn't had to replace a block, rod, or anything. Just maintain it well and don't treat it like you are on the track every day.
wdym by maintenance just change oil,trans fluid,diff fluid on time?
"Because you couldnt afford an STi" and I felt that.
One day! You're gonna get it one day!
FA motors are the future
I STi Drivetrain swapped my '19 WRX with a MapDCCD controller, also prior modifications included a TGV+EGR Delete and dyno-tune, that fixed almost all my complaints with the car.
The 2015 wrx fa20 is gaining so much traction!!! This car is going to be worth so much money in the future!!! Better get one before they shoot up to insane prices!!!
im at 50k miles with a invidia catted downpipe and intermediate pipe and a cobb big sf intake and i must say going stage 2+ i have had no problems at all from the ots tune. i do plan on getting a pro tune or e tune just for the longevity on the car. great car to drive.
How’s it been
Very nice. Drives smooth, sounds good and is reliable and fast. No issues with the tune.
That's why I've only upgraded the suspension and am happy with the stock WRX power. Keep my warranty and not worry about killing reliability.
MAP stage 1 will clean up the power soooo well Ive been running it for over a year and would recommend 1000x over!! Stock tune is terrible
@@andrewtejada3164 True that, there is that benefit with the power curve and I've definitely read about it. I'm planning on doing tons of track days. But yeah Stage 1 is probably as far as I'd go
pros and cons of modifying an STI:
Pros
- Slightly more power
- Awesome rumble exhaust note
- Pops and bangs when downshifting if you're aftermarket dp and tune
- Awesome cornering and AWD system (with good tire set)
- fairly inexpensive compared to other vehicles in it's sector
Cons
- Still slow
- Heat soaks like a mf
- expensive as hell to squeeze good HP
- super delicate so don't hoon with it for the first 10 minutes from cold start
- expensive if you need to fix
I own one and I can say it's good and bad at the same time lol. My experience with the car is good, I haven't had major issues with the car like some other people. 2018 sti running the stage 2+ from MAP (intake and dp with stock fuel system) and it has been great, already 11K miles and going. Sucks that modifying this car is so expensive for literally 400whp. Fun to own for a few years, but good luck on the used market, these cars are ticking time bombs once modified because of the damn 4th cyl.
You’re better off modding an older one
Moding ones after 2010 are expensive
My 06 sti makes ez 400hp
Just a bigger turbo and an e tune
Also, I have a 2018 type RA short block in it.
That helps
@@blackfacegaming191 you need a little more than a bigger turbo and an e-tune for 400hp though. Fuel rails, injectors, fuel pump, fuel press reg, tgv deletes, air pump delete, fp black, intercooler, dp.. I had the og 04 some time ago, and all that got me 410 whp with a pro tune. This in 2006 was killer since turbo cars were not like it is today. My 2018 has only the map stage 2 and I’m lucky if I hit 310whp.
ELH will help with the 4th (and 2nd) cylinders
@@jacobschroeder5014 twin scroll turbos and equal length headers are underrated.
Why don't the old STIs from Japan break as much as US ones?
Clearly because of that irregular engine pulse design with unequal length headers. Yes if we change it our cars will sound like Hondas but still 💁
My 21 wrx shifter is pretty damn notch. Almost feels like it's already a short shifter. Plus I love that self centering.
you dead right dude...it feels very notchy and engaging
Shout out to JRTUNED and PRIME MOTORING for helping me make a reliable 400+ on stock internals! 🙏🏽
Stock turbo? Ewgs?
@@nikesbeast yes
I’m at 400whp as well. With stock internals. I make sure to do oil changes every 2.5k miles.
@@HenDuKee if you’re running ethanol, oil changes every 1 or 1.5k at most!
How does it handle crawling in traffic for a hour? Only thing I'm worried about.
Love my 15WRX. done lots of bolt on stuff but saving to beef up those internals and put the big boy front mount intercooler on.
I recently picked up a 2020 wrx. First thing i did was the cobb accessport. Immediately followed by a short shift kit with bushings, plate and shift stop. Yes. The factory shifter is that bad. It's comparable to an old work truck. Honestly I think my work truck had less slop. But throw was about the same.🤣
edge lighting went fucking crazy on this one lmao
Some people can blow up a tank. You need to know your cars limits and look after them. I change the oil and oil filter in both our cars every 5000km. Many would call that overkill, I call it cheap preventative maintenance. My old charger has close to 100,000km in this engine and has negligible blow by.
Yesterday, I tried to buy a 2021 model but it wasn’t there when I got to the dealer (The dealership decided to sell it at auction instead :()
Today, there’s a 2020 WRX that I’m eyeing on and will check it out later. Hopefully everything will go smoothly…that it goes all the way to my hands
I legitimately wish I had just purchased the sti at this point. But here we are.
hell yeah I will frist thing is the sti trans swap
drove an STi a couple weeks ago and dear god that thing was fast as shit, im a Brz 2dr coupe kind of guy, i dont like 4 doors/sedans (im single amd dont need all the space) but my god that STi is making me rethink
Don't do it because it ends up costing more then that sti. Atleast it will if you go with the 15+wrx with the Fa and want to make real power. Trust me I know it well. I have a 2017 WRX currently making 600+awhp 34psi all the way to 8,000RPM. With fully built longblock motec ECU, port injection, turbo kit every modification possible and a full Sti transmission swap. The money to power ratio is crap. But if your goal is just some bolt on parts and flex fuel it's a great car. I love my car even with all the money I've spent. It's an animal but most people don't want to spend that on a car
WORD..
Your car is wild. I commented on some of your vids before lol. I feel like the cost of fbo+flex and possibly an fp blue is reasonable to put someone right around 400whp. I'm almost all bolt ones and flex and I'm barley scraping by at 350whp, it's a fun daily but nothing "fast". I want to build it but the money isn't there yet, it's like I can afford the turbo, ewg, and tune but then I'm barley able to put money down for a transmission upgrade. Then I need to do the block as well, and that is over budget. I want more zoom zoom but need more monies :(
@@luvhcchris thank you so much! I need to work on my channel to busy to put more into it. Yah that was what happened with me. I had full bolt on and flex fuel and I think I made 340 if that on stock block so I just pulled the stock longblock and Trans. End of the story I'm 60k deep in modifications and I'm still not making what I think I should. But it's still insane power especially with anti lag
@@luvhcchris Honestly just take your time don't go past the recommended levels and save up for as long as possible. Once you get the money needed to build it you can decide then if you still want to.
Then just stay at 400 wheel if you don’t want to spend on a staged block. A stock turbo can get you 400 easily
Just trying to get my 17 VA up to 300hp which is fine for a daily IMO
Picked up a 2020... already voided the warranty 😅
That’s right!
Haha got a 19 myself and still haven't touched warrenty. The 7k miles on it and bumper to bumper warranty make me happy lol
How exactly?
I purchased an 06 WRX new... I was able to afford the STI but I figured they both come with same 2.5 and I'll save $6k...boy do I regret not getting the STI. I still have my hawk eye and its putting down 306whp... but I wish it was an STI. Working on building an engine and hopefully making it to 400whp soon.
Spun a rod bearing with hardly any power mods at just over 100k :( , now I have a stage 1 iag short block fully built still sitting at around 320 protuned would love to make more power with my brand spankin new motor
I love my 2019 WRX, I'm running your intake, j pipe & header with your Stage 2 Tune and fucking love how it feels an sounds!
Get rid of that stock intercooler and hop on flex
@@nikesbeast stock intercooler is just fine . You don't need a bigger one unless you are pushing alot
@@nikesbeast I have a Verticooler
0 60 in 60 years and engine replacement in 100k or less, totally worth it.
@@FunTimeWithSouls no flex? You could hit 400 wheel on stock turbo with e60
I have a 2015 sti and drive it on a stage 2 and so far the only thing I had to do was get a performance clutch
Lots of pros. These cars make 400whp all day with quality parts and a quality tuner.
I've been on my 370/400whp maps since January of 2017. Never had an issue. Push the car all the time.
2009 was a Sedan also for the WRX so was 2008. STIs where hatch
Ron tuned my stock wrx to 350/350. Feels amazing! Also asked him for the crackle tune and send it at 400/370. Definitely faster! Next mods are gonna be exterior.
Don't ever get a crackle tune
Only one thing matters... have it pro tuned on a dyno!
E tune works just as good
Cryo tune in Denver is world renowned e tunes
👌
I’ve ordered my 2021 WRX. Due to Covid issues the availability of 2021s in my area (central Maine) is pretty poor and I found that I could get one equipped the way I wanted and get the best deal since I was willing to wait for it. I’m waiting on my pure red, base model equipped with factory short throw shifter and red accent lighting package. Only another 4-8 more weeks…..
Just ordered my 2021 premium wrx this week! Can’t wait. It’s gonna be a long 4-8 weeks lol
@@tylerp3397 Congrats. What color? I ordered the base model because I plan on ordering a 2024 STI when they become available. That’s my bucket list car LOL.
I ordered a white premium trim with the built in sub as the only extra option.
shop online ,go to denver, get it tuned , and drive home
2015 is so many peoples favorite body
I’m making 325 hp 360 torque and I think that’s enough power for me. I’m not trying to go any further.
* Invidia R400 Catback exhaust
* Cobb Accessport
* Cobb Big Sf Intake
* Grimmspeed JPipe
* Grimmspeed TMIC
* Grimmspeed Boost controller solenoid
* Grimmspeed Charge pipe
* Boomba BPV
* IAG Air/Oil Separator
* Spec D sequential Led Tail lights
Will spin a bearing or have blowby or valvetrain clogging but hey, totally worth a 100 less hp than a camaro for about the same price the reality is, you're going to feel a lot of grief before a 100k.
Bro ignore him, he is on a subaru vid talking shit about a car he doesn't have. Why he is falling the channel is beyond me cause he is a camaro fanboy. Which is fine if thats the car you like.
@@somersfamily I'm not a particular fanboy of any make or car and do drive a wrx and from experience, it's a absolutely tragically bad car. One that requires a die with 5 spaces of luck and 1 space of spending 10s of k to make the car not a complete pile of shit. The shifting sucks, tune sucks, sound sucks, acceleration sucks, speed sucks, dit carbon b.s sucks, egr and tgv suck, understeer sucks, seating position sucks, pedal spacing sucks, throttle input (tuning) sucks, higher rpm dips suck, factory abnormal knock sucks, reliability sucks. I never drove a camaro in my life, never even sat my ass in passenger seat. Have driven mustangs, many, except the gt350, last gen gt500, this gen gt500, and everything about those is more fun, receptive to driver input, sounds better, and mostly faster. I really am starting to want to get into v8s, then I can just drive off the lot with a car that I don't have to do the equivalent of spending money in Vegas to make fast and eventually grenade motor. Being a white knight and come to the aid if your little internet buddy, what a fucking beta cunt.
@@remissiveslave definitely a camaro driver
@@remissiveslave lmaooo
I’m okay with 300hp soo I guess time to modify
If you have a 14 or older best thing you can do is get the killer B, it takes a ton of heat off two and four.
If you don't get snow either get an st or gti
You guys should make a resonated downpipe. I'd buy one.
The all wheel drive system is awesome! I own a 2016 sti as a daily driver
How many miles? Any issues?
@@matthewmccaffry1949 48k no issues, tuned at 305hp & 330trq invidia down pipe and 3 inch full exhaust, intake, boost controller cobb accessport
@@tds909 want a trophy for a 304hp, rental car hp figure, not going on a flatbed at 40 k? How naive are you?
@@remissiveslave someone else asked about my car, glad you felt like you had to add you're 2 cents go find something to do other then talk shit on the internet
@@tds909 what about what I said is wrong?
trying to get my Forester XT up to 315-ish torque and over 300 hp. I think that'll keep me happy... for a while at least while I save for the fabled turbo BRZ or the next gen rex
got around 167whp on my wrx. It's a blast. I'd be happy with 288whp one day. Hopefully the car can take it. I'm thinking about getting an intake from you guys.
@288hp your barely living bro. try 300hp minimum
@@silvia12319 no you won't believe the power i got now with 167. I'm not sure my motor can handle 300. I'll just be at 288 one day with the Intake I'm thinking about getting . That 12 more hp may blow my motor. So I'll call it quits at 288
167 whp? You made the car slower?
@@skateboard987654321 it cant be 167hp!!!
@@skateboard987654321 no man fast. Mine on the dyno was 148. The intake made it faster
Charle I have a wrx 2019 and it has a sti transmission . But I’m trying to look for a intek and how much $?
do all these cons apply to stock? or if you modify for more power?
@maperformance 2:40 that's a brz engine, I mean close enough tho tbh
Catch cans or a air oil separator would be a wise first mod.
Have a smaller impact then ppl make it out to be. Bad engine design is whst mainly leads to these filling up repair shop parking spaces.
If you have the money for buy the wrx NEW but you know the Pro and Cons you still buy ?? Or with that money you buy another car ?? Which?? It have to be awd
I gotta buy one first before I mod one😭10k+ for 200k+ km absolutely clapped out cars in Canada
Anyone else blow up their rear end? Turns out replacing slider gears isn’t that bid of a deal at all. $30 in patts
Coming from a 2500 cummins these have a shirt throw shifter to me🤣
Im getting a 19wrx with very low miles reason? cheap, auto, looks good and yeah so much cheaper than a STi here a STi run 60k and up. Wanted to add only mod's I might do would be intake and exhaust I don't want massive power this car will be a daily for all seasons in Canada land.
We can get you that intake and exhaust whenever you're ready!
Lol I literally just ordered my AP, gonna try to just run the MAP Stage 1 OTS tune with no other mods for my daily. Hopefully should be good....Do the comment section'ers agree?
Yes I've been on it for over 3 years. Don't listen to people bashing ots tunes. I had an e tune and I don't use it. This works better for me at least
@@somersfamily good to know! Thanks. My guess is those people who bash them are running all mismatched brands of parts and expecting an OTS to work for them. Who knows. I figure if i leave the car stock the parts will act as they should. Thanks for the reply!
If you ever do go stage 2(which is very noticeable) make sure you go catted. The brand really doesn’t matter. The stage 2 ots tune is meant for catted downpipes
@@benbattista5035 The people bashing OTS tunes know what OTS tunes are. They are not good as a long term solution. I've run Cobb and MAP OTS tunes and while it was better than stock, they weren't much to write home about. The problem with OTS tunes is they are generic. Your engine, at your elevation and climate is going to behave very differently than another identical engine at a different elevation, etc.... so OTS tunes are made to work with a very broad range of conditions. That means they make a LOT of compromises. After running OTS tunes and being dissatisfied we went with a grimmspeed catted jpipe, grimmspeed e port EBCS, cat back and got etuned from Torqued Performance. Completely different animal. Worth every bit of the couple thousand spent. No intakes, no BOV's (those are noise makers not power adders).
@@somersfamily If that was your experience you would be the first person I've ever seen who preferred an OTS tune over a custom etune. Are you sure you didn't buy a different tuners OTS map? Who was the etune done by and how many revisions did they take to dial in your car?
I'm just gonna get a turbo back exhaust & tune & call it a day .. 2020 wrx Limited hopefully nothing blows up lol
Tomei headers is a must have too
it's the FA, you can push it more without gambling on reliability, the EJ is a different story.
Highly recommend the Verticooler of the grimmspeed tmic to replace your factory tmic. Helps your car run a lot cooler with the new power you’re going to have
Got a subimods add on this video. 🤣
Would anyone recommend an ethanol build with stock intake and exhaust? Ideally I would like to buy Cobb App, flex fuel kit+ supporting mods to tune.
Stage 1 is just a 91/93 tune which helps the car out tremendously. So I wouldn't see why doing a e30 tune with stock intake and exhaust would be any different. I've seen some builds on e30 with cai hit 300.
I would do mild bolt on for a daily .. I'm looking at these for a daily. I have a 700whp roushcharged Mustang on pump gas as a fun weekend car... On TE37s and drag radials. I'm looking at a focus st, a gti, and wrx.. which is best for a daily with mild bolt and and tune? I live in the sticks as well so cold winters and snow tires
Wrx with an fmic on flex
Nice, mustangs are a dime a dozen for efficient power. Great car.
@@nikesbeast over-rated improvement.
Audi has mire reliable cars for that terrain.
@@remissiveslave lol you clicked on a subie video just to talk shit
Currently driving a '20 WRX. I do love the FA engine but she is a fucking diva. Knock events for the slightest bump in the road. Currently waiting for a j-pipe and intake. Should be about 350 crank hp and that's enough for me for a daily.
That’s just off the J-pipe+intake? Or are you including a tune?
@@dinkledoge9777 have to tune for both. Cobb used to offer an OTS map for it but have stopped for their new jpipe arrival. So I'm gonna get it to fire up and have my buddy remote tune it
Donut media vibes, I dig it
Took over 4 minutes to get to the topic of this video
I am on my 2nd Subaru a 2021 STI my previous car was a 2019 STI.
Why two so soon to one another?
I need an exhaust for my '21 WRX Prem that doesn't sound like a racer, please?
Give us a call at 651-348-8811! We'd be happy to help find the right exhaust for you!
I still would rather build my 1998 gc8 Impreza into the STI. I feel like it'll be a unique car when I'm done with it. This is just my opinion, but I'm not really too hip on the new WRX and STI. Anything from my year (MY98) to 2012, I would consider getting. I feel kinda feel the same way about the Evos as well. Even though the Evo X looks mean aggressive I still prefer the older models of the Mitsubishi Evolution. There's just something about the way that the Mitsubishi evolution and Subaru WRX/STI were made back then that seem more...appealing to me.
so far on my 2020 wrx i have borla catback and a throttle controller better response next hybrid blowoff valve and new lights also
For what gains exactly? Still slow and unreliable.
How’s the borla? I’ve been looking at that exhaust but I’m not sure if the cops down here in SoCal would give me issues over it.
I just got a 2021 wrx premium with your guys stage 2 kit, now im just waiting for you guys to release a OTS tune so i can finally install the parts 😂
Get an E tune it’s better for your car
Get flex and get pro tuned you won’t regret it
@@Dazai_Ren i havent found any good e tuner for the wrx, i was looking into yimisport for a pro tune
@@nikesbeast i was trying to hold off on flex fuel until i reached 36k miles, that way i can just pull my bolt ons, flash back to stock and see what the dealership says when i go for warranty work
@@Dazai_Ren e tune smee tune. I've had an e tune from a main guy every one loves and it ran like shit over the tuen from ma that I've been running for 4 years. No issue's. This tuner tells me its always gonna knock down low and no way to get rid of it. I told him he is full of shit and went back to the ma tune. Don't believe everything everyone tells you
i have stoke 2018 wrx with 200000mi . and i dont know do i need put more power or put more strong perts in my engine
How about this same vid. But an STI 👀
All those problems that he lists at the beginning are literally all ej engine problems but he says its the STI that people can't afford XD interesting.
Lol fcts sounds like ma performance dnt know much lol no wonder ppl go for other brands then going wit ma 🥵
So 300-350 should be safe for the gearbox?
I have a 2020 WRX Base, and already ordered a Greddy Remark 4" Axel back system, and about to order the stage 1+ Kit from MAPerformance. I thought I could just get a cold air intake and be done but nooooo. You have to get a COBB access port and get it tuned haha. Quick question though, I also got a TurboXS 50/50 BoV and was told by my Subaru Dealership that it would be fine with the car, but he would want me to have it tuned so the MAF knows its dumping half the air. Is that something you guys would recommend? I just want that fat turbo woosh when I get off the gas and thought this would be a good way to go about it.
I have been building my 2020 WRX Premium CVT (yes, I know, but rush hour traffic and constant shifting is lame).
Easiest way to remember: BPV = No tune, BOV = Yes tune.
Also I love Cobb and MAPerformance but don't flash OTS tunes and think you're done. You need to add a boost controller and get a protune. Probably 7-800 all in.
Any catback or further exhausts need no tune as well. The fact that your dealership told you to to go and get a tune because of the MAF changes speaks to their integrity. Understand that if something breaks and it can be determined the tune was the problem, warranty will not cover. Hope all this helps. Happy tuning!
Fr I didn’t need a history lesson man..
Has anyone done anything with a CVT wrx ?
the "glass transmission" was mostly attributed to the last gen wrx's. the transmission in the 15+ wrx's is much stronger. don't me wrong the sti's is much more robust. Baider Built shows a side by side comparison of all the drive train components and its very obvious the difference.
The clutches in the 2015-2018 are the biggest transmission problem. They go out super quickly to the point that Subaru finally made an updated part mid 2018 to address it.
@@skateboard987654321 hmm..very interesting. I have a 2018 how would i know if mine is a revised model?
@@jameskocks4734 I have a 2018 as well. I think he’s saying they fixed in the 19+ models
That’s why the 2022 sti is gonna have the best of both worlds a fa24dit motor with an sti trans 🤤
@@nikesbeast i just read a report that says the next wrx is going to have 286 hp and the sti 395 with the 2.4 in both.
Got any downpipes in stock anytime soon?
I'm selling a bnib catless one invidia brand
Anything above 350HP is pushing the Stock FA20, Major weakness of this engine is the angle split connecting rods, Once they bend because of the additional stress the engine is then junk, Most people don't want to spend the money to build the engine properly for the additional power they want to just bolt on parts and hope for the best and when the engine blows the cars are considered "junk" blows my mind every time.
Not sure i know this guy that has around 400
You're very negative sir
It’s all in the tune. Also helps if you consistently do 3k oil changes and don’t do donuts, or any money shifts lol
True. These pos barely can withstand the stock power.
@@somersfamily beimg honest and a realist isn't being negative, but suit yourself.
Finding a warehouse with pallets and boxes on storage racks in the background wasn't in the budget eh?
He has a light behind him
@@scottvanderwater9005 I see. I guess pointing lights in the general direction of the lens was in the budget
Im so tempted to void my warranty on my 2020 wrx 😅
Do it bro but if you do get pro tuned
Thanks for the input fellas! Definitely new to tuning and such so any feedback is appreciated 💪🏼
Well you will ultimately be without a car sooner than later, ao go ahead.
@Faxon as much of a unreliable and disappointment these are, any fucking tune is better than factory. I'd take having it towed over stock tune.
@@eduardoarellanes884 you're in for a hell of a ride and a very bumpy one.
What gets me to 350 as a daily.
262,XXX Miles on the clock ej257 in an 06 OBXT with regular maintenance. EVEN THOUGH I make that car SPRINT everywhere. Take care of your cars organs, and they won't fail :)
“Glass trans” 🥲🥲🥲
Any suggestions to make my 2018 CVT faster? I know it's a CVT but I couldn't pass up the price. I'm looking to make about 300HP
Downpipe, intercooler, and flex
Why would anyone buy a cvt sports car in first place?.
@@nikesbeast thanks bro appreciate the feedback
@@remissiveslave it was the only car I could afford since your mom lost her job!
Don't add more power to the CVT, it can't handle the additional torque. Stick to suspension, wheels, tires etc. If you want more power, sell it and get a 6 speed.
Should change the title to 15+ wrx
More cons then pros on this car. From my personal experience.
I am thinking buy me one why you say it’s more cons then pros ?
@@miguelcervantes3950 the transmission itself should be enough for you to not even buy this car. Especially if you’re buying one used(if your buying one used prepare yourself to spend alot of money). Second the stock tune from factory is horrible and if you buy a access port to put a decent off the shelf tune you immediately void your warranty. Which you’ll 1000% need in the future. A new wrx cost around 33-35k out the door. For 33-35k you can finance a used type r(100% better then a wrx and sometimes a sti), 2019 low mile 5.0, and maybe even a 2019 sti with low miles.
Ya that’s why you buy an sti
Don’t waste the money on a wrx
Just save money by buying the sti
@@blackfacegaming191 a low mile used sti sure since it’ll run you around 36-39k. But a brand new sti will run you around 47 out the day which is not worth “saving” for.
I'm sorry for your lost...
Now say I'm looking to just make an even 300, would the transmission and internals be safe?
Yes, 300hp is easily attainable and reliable with quality parts!
@@maperformance ok, cool!
Just buy the sti
Don’t waste your time on the wrx
You’ll thank me later
@@blackfacegaming191 I've had a WRX for a year lol, no complaints with her at all
Dave just wait...
do you need a cobb acessport/tune to run an AOS daily.
Depends which AOS you go with. Most of the big brands have a street and race version, 1 requiring tune.
Still waiting for my exhaust 😪
I just need all of you youngsters to understand one thing: 3 Doors is a Hatchback. 5 Doors is a WAGON. I don't care that Subaru's marketing team called them hatchbacks, they were factually wagons.
Can you please do a 06 WRX ej255, thanks for your response.
so stock 300 is more reliable??
I would stay around 300 to 330 whp . Its having high torque that fs the motor up.
Hey guys..
I have searched on many forums about the REAL wrx sti consumption. Can someone please give me the REAL numbers like- when driving normal/going fast?
Thanks a lot.
I live in Canada so this is in kms.. but I'm sure you can convert this.. I get 8.2L/100kms driving "properly" and depending how hard I go it's anywhere between 9.6L/100km and 11L/100km. Manual and stock except axleback muffler delete from MXP
I want to modify my 2018 wrx just don't know where to start
Everywhere lol
Intake or exhaust is always a good starting point!
Accessport and catted downpipe
I love my 2015 wrx 400+ whp. but very expensive.
What’s your setup
@@nikesbeast Gs tmic
Invidia catless j pipe
Ets catback
Mishimoto cold air intake
Gs ebcs
Fp blue turbo
Perrin header
Perrin change pipe
Tgv and egr delete
Perrin 3” turbo inlet
Iag aos
Iag stage1 short block
Cobb flex fuel kit
Boomba bpv
Cobb ap
Aem Water meth kit
Perrin turbo sump restrictor
Dw300 fuel pump.
E60 tune.
Almost everything I can think of. But going to upgrade to a ewg header soon to be able to get to 500 whp
@@tengvang9452 good luck getting ewgs. E tune or dyno tune? Do you know your actual numbers? You should’ve made at least 430 with an fp blue
@@nikesbeast etune. No I actually don’t know my exact number. As I was told from my tuner. There is only one dyno here where I live lol. Gonna take it to run to see the actual number
especially if don't want to use e85 like me even though e85 is readily available in my area
Hatchback forever!