How many of those pages were in English (or whatever your language of preference is)?Not a criticism. Just wanted folks to have a realistic sense of how extensive the manual was.
No kidding. Audio-based updates are a huge pain in the ass. SD cards can makes sense if your setup isn't near a PC but USB is the most accessible and easy to use for everyone. Especially with the Behringer update app. Would be nice if they put it on mobile.
@@bogelmanDDD Translation (Are you buying all the new products from Beringer???) No, only the ones I find useful. Нет, только те, которые считаю полезными.
Come on Bheringer, when are you going to hit us up with that distant 'kin' of the synthesizer, the digitalized version of the reel-to-reel tape recorder? Back in the day the synth was coupled to the long-playing recorder, it was part of the process, something we now take for granted. These largely anonymous contraptions preserved those happy accidents so that they could be recalled and noddled into something joyous. These days we have the Daw, or the digital recorder but you can't just leave those things running, instead you have to make that conscious effort set them up and then to hit record, by which time that spark of an idea, has been and gone. So how about it Bheringer, something new, something borrowed something true. You can make this happen. A device which is always on, always in your audio chain, always recording waiting for you to hit record ' after the event', to preserve the last wow, the last minute, the last 5 mins, the last 10 mins, or the last 30 mins of recording. You would just hit the appropriate button 1 5 10 30 for that span to be saved to SD as a lossless file. A forever moment. [This must read like something from the first episode of that netflix series Black Mirror.] The SP404 has something called the 'skip back' providing a miserly 40 seconds of audio recall. This might be ok for a beat, but its not nearly enough for any other kind of instrumentalist. If this were 5 mins i might have jumped on it. If you could make a device to take a verity audio input/output types with a high enough audio quality to auto-loop for at least 30 mins, I and other musicians across the full spectrum of music would thank you for this 'forever machine'.. Anyone who has ever jammed and thought 'if only i could have recorded that', will thank you. It would open the gates to original and spontaneous. It would change music. From a record of familiar muscle memories, or labored notation into a real stream of consciousness.. You could transition from practice into creation and not stop to turn something on . After the basic 'reel-to-real' version you might add effects, and extend the time and features, it would be its own thing, a new whatchamacallit.
This would be amazing with the vectors under motion control from my Roland AE-30 wind synth! ❤ My dream module would be the MIDI to CV converter from the Neutron (including the Assign function) with four additional CC to CV channels. The Neutron is a perfect match for the AE-30 but I want to have that conversion capability within my rack.
I will certainly buy 3 or more. The CV I/O for the joystick are great for linking the modules or for recording. Recording the whole movement via my Hermod module from squarp and playing it back as a patch will be great.
I ordered the pro vs mini in August and it is still not fulfilled from Sweetwater. I have tons of Behringer gear but I want some new toys for Christmas 🎁 😊. Nice module btw!!
Wonderful stuff. I have the Pro VS mini, but this sort of video make me really wonder if I shouldn't make a jump back into modular synthesis with Eurorack... I had a modest MOTM modular synth up until 5 years ago when I sold it to clear a creditcard debt, but miss the patching and experimenting if I'm honest... but first, saving up for an UB-Xa...
Yeah, that sounds cool. But would you be so kind to tell us what „sound modeling“ you used for recording? I don’t see anything in the Video or description. There „seems“ to be at last, some reverb and delay! Its absolut okay to use these but i just want to know/ hear the „bare sound“ of the Modul. Or at last, want to know whats been used in the recording to sweeten it up!
Music stores on planet Earth my good man. Sol system, on the border of the alpha and beta quadrants.. nearby Sirius and Barnard's Star. M class planet, third rock from the star
Sounds great, especially with the Abacus. I want to know if the skiff being used (which looks like the Neutron size) will be for sale because I want ine so badly I am even considering building it.
@@markrundle4702 Perhaps I should explain that I have the 3 tier stand with the Neutron and the K-2 installed. I would like the third one to be a set of modules instead of another synth.
Hey, Patrick here, I just use the Eurorack case from my Behringer K-2 for the videos. There is no similar size skiff available from Behringer products but I agree, they should release something smaller than the 104. And even better add a top section above it. I will ask Uli to see if they can consider it.
Nice ! Im Stil waiting Ford my vs Mini 😢 ! But i get Last week the edge ! Maybe you have time for a Video about the Edge ? Merry chtistmas and a Good new year!
I think the boat is still on the way. Andertons got them earlier, but they used air to ship those in. Conversely, Thomann seems to have used air for the UB-Xa.. and Andertons sea freight. But of course, that also has an impact on the end price at the retailer..
Nice. But with 2 Eurorack Go cases already full of stuff i've either got to kick something out of the rack to make room for Victor, i i'm going to have to expand to a 3rd case :o
I was actually just doing some research about the RCA Mark II Sound Synthesizer, which just so happens to be the first programmable synthesizer invented by Herbert Belar and Harry Olson at the RCA labs in Princeton, New Jersey 1955. It was also nicknamed "Victor". I'm wondering if the Mark II Sound Synthesizer inspired the name.
its a reference to vector synthesis, and in particular to the prophet VS synth, which has also been cloned by Arturia in the V collection. so "vector" becomes "victor" here as a cheeky nod to the original.
Can I upload own Wavetables? I dont need those old Prophet VS waves to make 80s sound. The wavetables sound kind of boring, I‘d like to upload my own fresh ones, that would be awesome Behringer!
Hi, I just used the Case of my K-2 synth, just removed the front plate, I've been using that setup for all the Behringer Modular videos as it fits nicely on my desk compared to the bigger case and easier to film it ;). Cheers, Patrick.
@@PatchDog Nice but the thing is I have many of the Behringer modules & purchased the skiff cases which is a bit long for my desk. I've not yet purchased any of the Behringer gear like the K2 ect. Just wish Behringer produced shorter mod cases
Yeah I agree, I'd prefer a case that is roughly the size of the Eurorack Synths and maybe with a thin standup section above it of the same length so you can add more modules above it. Something more compact than the Eurorack GO and less wide than the Skiff case. I could ask the head of synths about that possibility. @@thepcgamer2169
@@PatchDog Indeed so. Seem Behringer are using there short cases from the K2 ect. Just wish or hope they produce these cases avail soon over the Skiff case.
Yes that's what I'm using, I'm the guy who makes the Behringer videos. I've asked the Synth Dep to consider making a smaller skiff case available. @@thepcgamer2169
My take-away from this video is that a lot of the functionality present in the Pro VS Mini is not present in this module, which is a big pity. This is obviously one of the reasons why the filter and VCO modules are relied on so much. If it is possible for the VICTOR to actually modify filter and VCO parameters, this was not shown in the video. I guess I need to find the manual and see whether these can be modified, and if so, how hard is to do so.
@@EricBlair-jg2ux Bro, I do. I get it that other modules can be used to change the filter etc. I was hoping to save hp by having that incorporated in the VICTOR.
Exactly, you answered your own question, he's modulating the FM with an LFO (the Four LFO module) set to audio rates...you can easily hear it and see it. Whats the confusion?@@cooksoni.a
I received my Victor today including 137 pages of operating instructions, I love this module
How many of those pages were in English (or whatever your language of preference is)?Not a criticism. Just wanted folks to have a realistic sense of how extensive the manual was.
@@markhammer643 in german about 20
I love that you managed to get the USB on the front panel. More designers should do this.
No kidding. Audio-based updates are a huge pain in the ass. SD cards can makes sense if your setup isn't near a PC but USB is the most accessible and easy to use for everyone. Especially with the Behringer update app. Would be nice if they put it on mobile.
Excellent WORK Behringer ! Sounds BEAUTIFUL Time to order my first 2024 purchase.
I have to say this sounds fantastic. And modulating the joystick with cv and also being able to use it as a cv source is excellent.
Simple but powerful. Brilliant module and appropriately priced.
Perfect visual and acoustic demo ! Thanks
Please made a tb 303 module. Or the td3 mo in eurorack module format.
Indeed, another toy to add to my Behringer collection. 👍
ты что все новинки от Beringer покупаешь???
gotta catch em all!! XD
@@bogelmanDDD Translation (Are you buying all the new products from Beringer???) No, only the ones I find useful.
Нет, только те, которые считаю полезными.
It would be nice if there was motion recording on that joystick.
Agree (Behringer might add this with a firmware update). The X-out and Y-out are nice, provided that the joystick feels good.
Can you play it paraphonically up to 4 voices like with the pro vs mini?
Amazing sounds ☺♥♪
BRO 😍superos ♦♦♦
The year is 6402 and the Victor is finally available for purchase at your local music dealer
Zzzzzzz
I pre-ordered VS-mini in August 2023 and you know what? I'm still waiting (Thomann)😂
To the victor the spoils. I'll show myself out.
I know almost nothing about modular synthesis, but this makes me want to learn! Loved your demo @PatchDog ! Victor looks and sounds sweet! 🤩
Fits next to a Wasp, Model D, Cat in a 84hp frame 😮👍
amazed baby boy 😮
@@tuneboyz5634 No u
ufff I bet that sounds so good
that thing sounds amazing! I have to get one.
I ordered a Behringer Mini-VS back in August... have not arrived yet, so well.. dont get your hopes up people.
Dammit Patrick! You always make me wanna buy stuff that i don't need... I don't even have a euro rack stand! Show mercy!
Hehe sorry mate (I think lol). Cheers, Patrick.
6:15 sounds familiar and it's driving me nuts.
Really nice synth, would make friends with my moogs
"Give me the vector, Victor!" My favourite line from movie Airplane.
The first thing to pop into my mind, too 😁
mine was the one with the boobs
epic film with so many quotes
Surely you can't be serious.
@@KnuckleheadStuey I am serious, and don't me Shirley.
But where is the reverb and delay coming from?
I would be great if they made that an actual package, all those modules with case together.
Got a pair on preorder. Really wonderful sound on display here. Another excellent video. Well done!
same, i took a pair there on the way still . did you recieve ? how are two together ?
@@MorbidManoeuvres not yet. Sweetwater was saying May delivery. Hopefully we'll see a bump up.
Come on Bheringer, when are you going to hit us up with that distant 'kin' of the synthesizer, the digitalized version of the reel-to-reel tape recorder?
Back in the day the synth was coupled to the long-playing recorder, it was part of the process, something we now take for granted. These largely anonymous contraptions preserved those happy accidents so that they could be recalled and noddled into something joyous.
These days we have the Daw, or the digital recorder but you can't just leave those things running, instead you have to make that conscious effort set them up and then to hit record, by which time that spark of an idea, has been and gone.
So how about it Bheringer, something new, something borrowed something true. You can make this happen. A device which is always on, always in your audio chain, always recording waiting for you to hit record ' after the event', to preserve the last wow, the last minute, the last 5 mins, the last 10 mins, or the last 30 mins of recording. You would just hit the appropriate button 1 5 10 30 for that span to be saved to SD as a lossless file. A forever moment. [This must read like something from the first episode of that netflix series Black Mirror.]
The SP404 has something called the 'skip back' providing a miserly 40 seconds of audio recall. This might be ok for a beat, but its not nearly enough for any other kind of instrumentalist. If this were 5 mins i might have jumped on it. If you could make a device to take a verity audio input/output types with a high enough audio quality to auto-loop for at least 30 mins, I and other musicians across the full spectrum of music would thank you for this 'forever machine'.. Anyone who has ever jammed and thought 'if only i could have recorded that', will thank you.
It would open the gates to original and spontaneous. It would change music. From a record of familiar muscle memories, or labored notation into a real stream of consciousness.. You could transition from practice into creation and not stop to turn something on .
After the basic 'reel-to-real' version you might add effects, and extend the time and features, it would be its own thing, a new whatchamacallit.
That's great and all, but is there any update on what happened to the shipping of MS1/101 mkII?
This would be amazing with the vectors under motion control from my Roland AE-30 wind synth! ❤
My dream module would be the MIDI to CV converter from the Neutron (including the Assign function) with four additional CC to CV channels. The Neutron is a perfect match for the AE-30 but I want to have that conversion capability within my rack.
I will certainly buy 3 or more. The CV I/O for the joystick are great for linking the modules or for recording. Recording the whole movement via my Hermod module from squarp and playing it back as a patch will be great.
Behringer going better and better amazing 👍🙌😍
If I didn’t have a solaris I might have bought it, sounding great !
Ditto 😉
I ordered the pro vs mini in August and it is still not fulfilled from Sweetwater. I have tons of Behringer gear but I want some new toys for Christmas 🎁 😊. Nice module btw!!
Sweetwater says they are not expecting these until May 2024. Ridiculous!
Same here. This video pretends like it's already out there lol.
Yet another cool device/module! 👍
I'm glad they're making things that AREN'T clones
It's one voice right? And no filter? Only oscillator?
What’s the sequencer used in the video? 5:17
When is this available in Australia - so far not been able to find a retailer with it in stock?
Do this with the EMS please.
Super interesting.
Wonderful stuff. I have the Pro VS mini, but this sort of video make me really wonder if I shouldn't make a jump back into modular synthesis with Eurorack... I had a modest MOTM modular synth up until 5 years ago when I sold it to clear a creditcard debt, but miss the patching and experimenting if I'm honest... but first, saving up for an UB-Xa...
Want the VS, but NEED this!
good stuff.
Hey, whats the module second from the left of screen..? Thanks
not shipping in Australia
Beautiful!❤❤❤❤
ビクターいいですね〜、ぜひ実機を操作してみたいです。
Sounds amazing, I need to review one
Please, please, please, Give us a full Eurorack/module version of the prophet vs........ Ive ordered my Victor but, I neeeeed a full VS
Yeah, that sounds cool.
But would you be so kind to tell us what „sound modeling“ you used for recording? I don’t see anything in the Video or description. There „seems“ to be at last, some reverb and delay!
Its absolut okay to use these but i just want to know/ hear the „bare sound“ of the Modul. Or at last, want to know whats been used in the recording to sweeten it up!
But does it still suffer from a floppy knob?
Oooh Er, Missus!
Nothing a Hard Frost can't sort
Whats the Reverb used?
5:47 Nice modulation sounds.
Behringer is pure love ❤
So did you guys drop the polyphony over USB feature you advertised at announcement?
That sounds pretty sweet!
How do you build a basic rig?
We need to receive the classic version first...
Nice.. Really nice. I pre ordered this months ago.. I might be getting it soon then...
Im sorry to sound stupid but...I have never been able to buy any Behringer products. Where do you people buy them?
Music stores on planet Earth my good man. Sol system, on the border of the alpha and beta quadrants.. nearby Sirius and Barnard's Star. M class planet, third rock from the star
or just check out Andertons or Thomann or Sweetwater
It’s a ZZ Plural zee zone so, you know, be careful
what eurorack case is this please
You did it! Nice!
Sounds great, especially with the Abacus. I want to know if the skiff being used (which looks like the Neutron size) will be for sale because I want ine so badly I am even considering building it.
hi, they have been for years.....Behringer Eurorack 104
@@markrundle4702 The 104 are not the Neutron size (80hp) like in the video. I calculated the size of the modules in the video and they are 80hp.
@@markrundle4702 Perhaps I should explain that I have the 3 tier stand with the Neutron and the K-2 installed. I would like the third one to be a set of modules instead of another synth.
Hey, Patrick here, I just use the Eurorack case from my Behringer K-2 for the videos. There is no similar size skiff available from Behringer products but I agree, they should release something smaller than the 104. And even better add a top section above it. I will ask Uli to see if they can consider it.
You had me at: "It's morphin' time"
Nice ! Im Stil waiting Ford my vs Mini 😢 ! But i get Last week the edge ! Maybe you have time for a Video about the Edge ? Merry chtistmas and a Good new year!
Sounds really good
Шикарно! Very Nice!
why cant i buy the pro vs mini in germany like anywhere?
I think the boat is still on the way. Andertons got them earlier, but they used air to ship those in. Conversely, Thomann seems to have used air for the UB-Xa.. and Andertons sea freight. But of course, that also has an impact on the end price at the retailer..
Punishment for second world war.
I'd like to buy all of this gear. Is this all behringer stuff?
I gotta say, it's pretty cool. I might have to build one of those in PureData
What eurorack case is this?
This makes me wanr to buy the vs mini, its the same, right?
Where can I study electronic sound design?
Thank You
Is this a 4voice prophet for 100 bugs?
I’d liked to have seen a patch example using the X/Y Outputs but this looks like a sure fire winner!
Very nice ❤
Nice. But with 2 Eurorack Go cases already full of stuff i've either got to kick something out of the rack to make room for Victor, i i'm going to have to expand to a 3rd case :o
I was actually just doing some research about the RCA Mark II Sound Synthesizer, which just so happens to be the first programmable synthesizer invented by Herbert Belar and Harry Olson at the RCA labs in Princeton, New Jersey 1955. It was also nicknamed "Victor". I'm wondering if the Mark II Sound Synthesizer inspired the name.
its a reference to vector synthesis, and in particular to the prophet VS synth, which has also been cloned by Arturia in the V collection. so "vector" becomes "victor" here as a cheeky nod to the original.
What reverb are you using with it?
Good work!
You can see the very whobbly data wheel while tuning around with your fingers 😂😂😂
Uli, my Pro-VS mini has been delayed till February 2024 but this is shipping? 😤
Waiting for BCR32..... 2 years....
Can I upload own Wavetables?
I dont need those old Prophet VS waves to make 80s sound. The wavetables sound kind of boring, I‘d like to upload my own fresh ones, that would be awesome Behringer!
Had mine on pre order since day one. Looking forward to giving it a whirl.
Is he using a sequencer?
How much?
Is it mono ?
I think yes and no filter
That's a good idea. Does sound good with analog filters. Guess it's real cheap too
oh no it sounds amazing
what is driving it ?
Sound nice 👍
@Behringer May ask what rack case you used for this demo of the Victor?? Thank you.
Hi, I just used the Case of my K-2 synth, just removed the front plate, I've been using that setup for all the Behringer Modular videos as it fits nicely on my desk compared to the bigger case and easier to film it ;). Cheers, Patrick.
@@PatchDog Nice but the thing is I have many of the Behringer modules & purchased the skiff cases which is a bit long for my desk. I've not yet purchased any of the Behringer gear like the K2 ect. Just wish Behringer produced shorter mod cases
Yeah I agree, I'd prefer a case that is roughly the size of the Eurorack Synths and maybe with a thin standup section above it of the same length so you can add more modules above it. Something more compact than the Eurorack GO and less wide than the Skiff case. I could ask the head of synths about that possibility. @@thepcgamer2169
@@PatchDog Indeed so. Seem Behringer are using there short cases from the K2 ect. Just wish or hope they produce these cases avail soon over the Skiff case.
Yes that's what I'm using, I'm the guy who makes the Behringer videos. I've asked the Synth Dep to consider making a smaller skiff case available. @@thepcgamer2169
i love victor 'vikiran kotor'
What's our vector, Victor?
I was looking for this comment 😂
We’ve got clearance Clarence 😊
Nice!
How much is this?
My take-away from this video is that a lot of the functionality present in the Pro VS Mini is not present in this module, which is a big pity. This is obviously one of the reasons why the filter and VCO modules are relied on so much. If it is possible for the VICTOR to actually modify filter and VCO parameters, this was not shown in the video. I guess I need to find the manual and see whether these can be modified, and if so, how hard is to do so.
Bro you don't seem to understand the concept of how modular actually works.
@@EricBlair-jg2ux Bro, I do. I get it that other modules can be used to change the filter etc. I was hoping to save hp by having that incorporated in the VICTOR.
What do you think the X and Y CV outs are for?????
yessss 🤤👍
can the frequency be modulated at audio rates?
Yes, he's doing that in the video.
@@EricBlair-jg2ux All I see him modulating it with an LFO at 100hz. I'm asking if you can do FM synthesis with it
Exactly, you answered your own question, he's modulating the FM with an LFO (the Four LFO module) set to audio rates...you can easily hear it and see it. Whats the confusion?@@cooksoni.a
Ehh pro vs mini isnt even available yet...