Luke is a beast, best hero in 4v4, but in 1v1 Obi wan is more safe and difficult to kill. Against a very good vader, you have a chance with obi wan or Rey, but not with luke. However he 's as good as Rey at least.
Yoda has garbage stamina but they actually do mention that presence cancels immobilizing effects in the ability description so if people don’t know it’s cause they don’t read, yodas biggest weakness is bad damage and stamina but if used right can be dangerous if patient too much aggression is how you get parried😭😭😭
Something to note about Yoda’s dash ability: The hitbox for it is absolutely broken, you can do a normal dash through your enemy, and dash attack when you’re behind them. You can even dash attack around them outside of their range. If you combine this with his triple dash star card, you can wipe out nearly half an opponent’s health by chaining these, without any risk of getting hit.
i noticed the same for luke and maul, dodging past your enemy once and using the dash ability will cause them to take damage from the backside. There is even a bug with lukes dash that if u turn around and face your opponent at the end of your dash it'll count as another attack and deal another bit of damage
When you dash with Yoda do a primary attack as you get to your enemy, his primary attack will go right through the block adding to the dash damage. With the right setup you will kill in 3 dashes with a 4th coming off cooldown.
@@abhorrence sorry it took me so long. Yoda's dash has a bit of a stagger effect and that with the unblockable damage for some reason let's you do a free primary attack on them, could be a bug honestly. when you use Yoda's primary attack while dashing you will do a lunge, the timing you can learn somewhat easy with practice but when you dash you try to do the primary attack right before you are passing through your opponent. the lunge attack will bring you back to the opponent like a homing attack. You can get a friend/or use the arcade with a second controller to play a blocking enemy. Or you can practice Yoda in co-op, I found perfecting it against infantry bots to be somewhat helpful. I would love to hear if you have any progress.
Depends what u play on for example on ps there are mostly low levels in showdown, I see more high levels in hvv even tho most of the time they are crap lol
Ur opinion, i agree with the strengths but his weakness is basically any other lights side saber hero bc his frenzy can be cancelled by every hero with a force ability and a perfectly timed parry
As a former max level Anakin main, I instantly liked this vid when you put Anakin in the B tier. I see waaaaay too many people put him in A and S because of his ability combo (I think?), which as you mentioned is easy to counter/avoid. He is also the buggiest character in the game, and those bugs will VERY often get you killed. Glad you also mentioned his slow and telegraphed swing speed- there have been SO many times where I’ve attacked an enemy to finish them off, and Anakin decides to do his stupid twirl swing, which gives the enemy PLENTY of time to avoid it. Edit: I also think Grievous should be S-tier. Beating Heart and Flesh is Weak make him nigh unkillable in any game mode
I personally think Anakin is S-tier big time in HVV. All Of Them + Raw Strength = 270 damage to an unsuspecting team with a combo and if you include punish attacks the numbers go into the 500s or even 600s if we're talking back attacks. In 1v1s, since the enemy is always aware of you, it's a different story. Anakin is reliant on his abilities to get things done and if he can't land them, then he kinda can't do anything because his regular attacks are not that great
Anakin is an A-S I have him maxed and once you learn stamina management with massive strikes and steam roll only ability you need is passionate strike.
@@LimKim-po5kw The thing is, Anakin is what I call an ability-centric character - by that I mean his abilities are way more powerful than his regular attacks. Because of this you'll want All Of Them + Raw Strength to deal more ability damage. Steamroll is still good for the 3rd slot, but then again without massive strikes his stamina isn't bad so you could use Attraction if you wish
I'd like to also mention boba fett for blaster heroes because unless you're fighting Anikin I'd say you stand a pretty reasonable chance against lightsaber users on most maps. His for the hunt combined with his normal jetpack allows you to quickly get away safely while piling up damage with the Ee 3 or boba's rocket barrage especially since it goes through blocks. The only problem is you can't afford to make many mistakes even more so then any other blaster hero. So having good aim and map knowledge is important for success with him
Kylo Ren is unstoppable. His freezing power leaves opponents defenseless against your attacks. Freezing power is the single most lethal power in the hands of a pro player.
I think Mace Windu would be A tier with his Vapaad and Force Crush abilities, Dengar would be A or B tier as he would be the strongest blaster hero with his DLT-19 and Explosive Rush ability, Thrawn A tier with his superior commanding abilities and support roles, General Veers A tier because he would have a AT-AT ability, and Ashoka A tier.
Dooku is in my opinion also the best Duelist. He is my main, and he is perfect fit to my playstyle which surronds lightsaber duels. His star cards also make him way more terrifying than Vader could ever be with the right abilities active alongside them. Dooku can end a duel essentially as soon as it begins. And from my own experience, I have ended many duels in under ten seconds with Dooku due to his insane damage.
4:52 Wait, huh??? How can you parry without being able to block something first???????? That doesn't make sense to me. I thought a parry is what happens when you press attack at the right timing after they HIT YOUR BLOCK to get a counter attack on them.
I see what you're saying. So when Yoda uses his dash, he will deal damage to you regardless if you're blocking or not, making the move unblockable. However, you can still punish this move with a parry, because his ability will still hit your block giving you that opportunity to counter attack.
Pretty much. It's a very odd and unique ability. Very strong at chipping away enemies health, but can be very weak if an enemy knows how to parry. I also forgot to mention, if you were to block the ability (with a parry or not) it will deal reduced damage to you.
I think Rey´s insight does give you less stamina consumption so it helps a lot with the 3 dashes star card but im not sure (theres also a card to reduce stamina consumption). I personally also use Bossk in duels as a villain if i dont get the last saber user since idk how to use Palps and it has a great unblockable damage with all his abilities (mines, grenades and gas), Chewbacca is a good option for me too for all his cc and unblockable crossbow, but Han is better imo. Great video Kudos!
Her middle ability let her deal more dmg and less stamina usage and she’s great bc of her dashstrike. But if u get some people who only camp on dashstrike its still a terrrible experience
honestly really surprised iden didnt make this list. a direct impact with her charged shot, followed by her shock droid, and finished with a barrage from her TL-50 shreds absolutely everyone
Honestly luke and maul are beasts especially used by comp but mauls health is awful and his damage output is bad unless you know how to chain combos luke should be A tho his only prob is regen but if you have good awareness you’ll be fine and Obi should def B S tier only true counter to Vader
Obi in supremacy is great but not in hero n villans. Ani and Luke are better there Kylo is great for hero and villains. If you can play him, you'll get many many points. He's fast and has nice powers Rey is good but not that good (My opinion)
@@Archideimos_II well it depends if ur a casual player or a tryharder bc i saw a guy that was trying really hard and he was just taking long you know not being too agressive to get retribution and then he won
Dooku is certainly S tier now not above Vader ofc but he is the most versatile duelist card wise with also some of the most op cards in the game his 3 abilities are amongst the best his hookswing techs are amongst the best and his health and stamina are decent for 1v1’s he is top 2-3 options easily
Personally I think Rey is garbage, her ability that allows you to invert controls is easily counter by just dashing backwards and her charge is easily parried by mauls choke or vaders choke. Her only good ability is her middle one. I would rather have yoda or any other lightsaber duelist over her. This is just my opinion though
Well most good players run no regen cards and on Vader no cards at all actually so a non carded Vader still can beat a dooku but would have to be careful
Both are a problem in the right hands but I do put obi over rey but rey def is still S tier 3 dashes fast stam regen one of the most lethal knockdowns in the game her weakness is health ofc which is why I put obi above he has everything defense offense stamina health etc
@@rhejnl Sequel Is the Worst between The Series and Anyone Who Thinks That Those Movies Had Potential Well They Are Brainless.Even s Dog Knows That Ep 7 8 9 Is Shit
The thing is idk why ur specifically say MAX bc i gotta say levels don’t say anything but rey is a great hero (at least in game) ofc ani and Luke deal more damage
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Putting luke in B is ridicilous
Where should he be? I’m not very experienced with the game
@@FHGryphonIRLeasily S luke is goated
he’s literally first pick for the lightside
Luke is a beast, best hero in 4v4, but in 1v1 Obi wan is more safe and difficult to kill. Against a very good vader, you have a chance with obi wan or Rey, but not with luke. However he 's as good as Rey at least.
No Luke is good overall but not strong in any category. He is super good in galactic assault @@ryzellq
As a Dooku main only thing i can say, is "I've been looking forward to this"
He has the most overpowered damage cards
@@Hebrew_Israelite_Young_jeditrue
AYYYYYE SAME HERE BROTHER
@@Hebrew_Israelite_Young_jediyes play all the extra damage star cards and you can 3 tap some hero’s in an instant 😂😂
Lukes goated in the right hands ive seen lukes wipe high level lobbies with ease
Luke is very good but he gets parried instantly. almost every ability gets parried
Yoda has garbage stamina but they actually do mention that presence cancels immobilizing effects in the ability description so if people don’t know it’s cause they don’t read, yodas biggest weakness is bad damage and stamina but if used right can be dangerous if patient too much aggression is how you get parried😭😭😭
Something to note about Yoda’s dash ability:
The hitbox for it is absolutely broken, you can do a normal dash through your enemy, and dash attack when you’re behind them.
You can even dash attack around them outside of their range.
If you combine this with his triple dash star card, you can wipe out nearly half an opponent’s health by chaining these, without any risk of getting hit.
i noticed the same for luke and maul, dodging past your enemy once and using the dash ability will cause them to take damage from the backside. There is even a bug with lukes dash that if u turn around and face your opponent at the end of your dash it'll count as another attack and deal another bit of damage
When you dash with Yoda do a primary attack as you get to your enemy, his primary attack will go right through the block adding to the dash damage. With the right setup you will kill in 3 dashes with a 4th coming off cooldown.
@@Flarios55 Dang didn’t know that, thanks
@@Flarios55wait can u explain that more? And this only works with yoda
@@abhorrence sorry it took me so long. Yoda's dash has a bit of a stagger effect and that with the unblockable damage for some reason let's you do a free primary attack on them, could be a bug honestly.
when you use Yoda's primary attack while dashing you will do a lunge, the timing you can learn somewhat easy with practice but when you dash you try to do the primary attack right before you are passing through your opponent. the lunge attack will bring you back to the opponent like a homing attack. You can get a friend/or use the arcade with a second controller to play a blocking enemy. Or you can practice Yoda in co-op, I found perfecting it against infantry bots to be somewhat helpful.
I would love to hear if you have any progress.
Not played in 3yrs but I'm glad to see the community is still active, might have to get back into it
Max general Grievous main from the last update
Depends what u play on for example on ps there are mostly low levels in showdown, I see more high levels in hvv even tho most of the time they are crap lol
I feel like Luke is underrated
Idk bout underrated I see a lot of ppl use him but they make him look terrible for sure everytime I see a luke I can’t expect good things lol
@@SuperBabyMario0C yeah, level 6 Luke players give him a bad reputation.
I've seen level 200 Luke's and they're still not that good
Kylo is kind of a jack of all trades character with no big weakness, but he also has no big strengths
Ur opinion, i agree with the strengths but his weakness is basically any other lights side saber hero bc his frenzy can be cancelled by every hero with a force ability and a perfectly timed parry
@@Archideimos_II This is true to be fair, but if you make them use their abilities before you frenzy then you can lower the risk of the ability a lot
@@Solomon_C true but i still put him last on my list bc all of his ability’s can be cancelled if he tries them mid air
Darth Vader is just the goat in hvv
Dooku is such a fun hero. I wish there were more characters like him
As a Genny G main, I applaud the A tier choice. Did my boy right.
Yeah a comp player on him is hell
darth vader just sitting there all like homelander from the boys "but i am better i am!" xD
As a former max level Anakin main, I instantly liked this vid when you put Anakin in the B tier. I see waaaaay too many people put him in A and S because of his ability combo (I think?), which as you mentioned is easy to counter/avoid. He is also the buggiest character in the game, and those bugs will VERY often get you killed. Glad you also mentioned his slow and telegraphed swing speed- there have been SO many times where I’ve attacked an enemy to finish them off, and Anakin decides to do his stupid twirl swing, which gives the enemy PLENTY of time to avoid it.
Edit: I also think Grievous should be S-tier. Beating Heart and Flesh is Weak make him nigh unkillable in any game mode
I’m so glad you brought up his twirl swing move. It pisses me off every time it happens lol
Yes Anakin's swing speed is too slow. I think it used to be faster but they nerfed it a while back.
I personally think Anakin is S-tier big time in HVV. All Of Them + Raw Strength = 270 damage to an unsuspecting team with a combo and if you include punish attacks the numbers go into the 500s or even 600s if we're talking back attacks.
In 1v1s, since the enemy is always aware of you, it's a different story. Anakin is reliant on his abilities to get things done and if he can't land them, then he kinda can't do anything because his regular attacks are not that great
Anakin is an A-S I have him maxed and once you learn stamina management with massive strikes and steam roll only ability you need is passionate strike.
@@LimKim-po5kw The thing is, Anakin is what I call an ability-centric character - by that I mean his abilities are way more powerful than his regular attacks. Because of this you'll want All Of Them + Raw Strength to deal more ability damage. Steamroll is still good for the 3rd slot, but then again without massive strikes his stamina isn't bad so you could use Attraction if you wish
I'd like to also mention boba fett for blaster heroes because unless you're fighting Anikin I'd say you stand a pretty reasonable chance against lightsaber users on most maps. His for the hunt combined with his normal jetpack allows you to quickly get away safely while piling up damage with the Ee 3 or boba's rocket barrage especially since it goes through blocks. The only problem is you can't afford to make many mistakes even more so then any other blaster hero. So having good aim and map knowledge is important for success with him
Kylo Ren is unstoppable. His freezing power leaves opponents defenseless against your attacks. Freezing power is the single most lethal power in the hands of a pro player.
Nah even pros are not that good w him he's just not good the baddest ds lighstaber imo
I think Mace Windu would be A tier with his Vapaad and Force Crush abilities, Dengar would be A or B tier as he would be the strongest blaster hero with his DLT-19 and Explosive Rush ability, Thrawn A tier with his superior commanding abilities and support roles, General Veers A tier because he would have a AT-AT ability, and Ashoka A tier.
Vader dooku and obi wan in s, anakin Luke Rey yoda and grevious in a, and the rest in b.
Bought the game in 2021 and im having a great time thanks for the video appreciate it ❤
Thanks for still putting up BF2 content, cheers!
Dooku is in my opinion also the best Duelist. He is my main, and he is perfect fit to my playstyle which surronds lightsaber duels. His star cards also make him way more terrifying than Vader could ever be with the right abilities active alongside them. Dooku can end a duel essentially as soon as it begins. And from my own experience, I have ended many duels in under ten seconds with Dooku due to his insane damage.
Factual he's still talking hvv but dooku is also good in that
Poor yoda 😟
Surely needs a big buff
yoda and kylo ren are pretty good
4:52
Wait, huh??? How can you parry without being able to block something first???????? That doesn't make sense to me. I thought a parry is what happens when you press attack at the right timing after they HIT YOUR BLOCK to get a counter attack on them.
I see what you're saying. So when Yoda uses his dash, he will deal damage to you regardless if you're blocking or not, making the move unblockable. However, you can still punish this move with a parry, because his ability will still hit your block giving you that opportunity to counter attack.
@@DeadByAfternoon Oh, ok. So Yoda's dash hits both the opponent's block and the opponent themself at the same time. Weird.
Pretty much. It's a very odd and unique ability. Very strong at chipping away enemies health, but can be very weak if an enemy knows how to parry. I also forgot to mention, if you were to block the ability (with a parry or not) it will deal reduced damage to you.
@@DeadByAfternoon Huh. That's interesting. Poor Yoda though, lol
I think Rey´s insight does give you less stamina consumption so it helps a lot with the 3 dashes star card but im not sure (theres also a card to reduce stamina consumption). I personally also use Bossk in duels as a villain if i dont get the last saber user since idk how to use Palps and it has a great unblockable damage with all his abilities (mines, grenades and gas), Chewbacca is a good option for me too for all his cc and unblockable crossbow, but Han is better imo.
Great video Kudos!
Her middle ability let her deal more dmg and less stamina usage and she’s great bc of her dashstrike. But if u get some people who only camp on dashstrike its still a terrrible experience
Amazing
If you use yodas star cards that add 60 health and the one that regens health lost Yoda can have 950 health and he becomes very hard to finish off
honestly really surprised iden didnt make this list. a direct impact with her charged shot, followed by her shock droid, and finished with a barrage from her TL-50 shreds absolutely everyone
Hes only ranking saver so
But yh iden is very strong
Rey being the best light side character duelist and yoda being the worst tells me this game is one of the most unbalanced games of all time lol
I always found Dooku to be very easy to counter. All you need to do is find the block button, because he has no block breaking move. 😀
You've never seen a good player n what they do to only blockers
what other character besides rey and dooku have 3 dashes?
Han Solo
Ewok and commando droid
WHERE IS BB-8?!
Trash can
@@bigbywolf5197 thats what you are in star wars battle front 2
@@mrdiamondhubi1898what are talking about he’s right bro likes using bb-8💀💀💀💀💀
Bb8 shines when you aren’t in a 2v2 imagine most Average gamers running bb vs any dark side saber users
Hes only talking sabers but yh bb8 is godly especially in hvv
Honestly luke and maul are beasts especially used by comp but mauls health is awful and his damage output is bad unless you know how to chain combos luke should be A tho his only prob is regen but if you have good awareness you’ll be fine and Obi should def B S tier only true counter to Vader
Grievous, Kenobi, Vader, Dooku S tier
Luke, rey, maul A tier
Yoda, Anakin B tier
Kylo C tier
"Her insight may be useless, because you already see your enemies"
I Also wanted to ask if you are working on the tierlist i recomended
I sure am!
a good obi-wan WIPES rey, NONONONONO. OBI-WAN IS TOP 2 RIGHT NEXT TO VADER
Rey is awesome in hvv 😅
Darth maul is so underrated I can win any duel with him
He’s definitely the most fun duelist to play
Don’t overestimate urself but yea he’s fun and fast deals damage fast, but also receives its fast, his spin is still great for getting away
A veteran player can use any hero in a duel and win.
@@elric5371maybe depends on what they play but many I've seen can
I'd like to hear your take on the heroes in normal game modes personally, hope you can get around to it at some point. Ty!
Will do!
Soundwave yoda is SSS tear
This is Paul on my alt account and wow
Luke B is crazy ngl….
yo totally agree with dis one
I’m a Luke skywalker main
I also play Rey a lot I only play lightside in this game
Bro wth only one side bruh tf xd
No boba is kind of wild
Obi in supremacy is great but not in hero n villans. Ani and Luke are better there
Kylo is great for hero and villains. If you can play him, you'll get many many points. He's fast and has nice powers
Rey is good but not that good
(My opinion)
Oh shut up Rey is a great character. That's just the toxic Star Wars fanbase talking
In the game yeah. She’s cool not do much movies
She’s B tier, A tier in the right hands
She’s my go to in the game for lightsaber light side, as for the sequels they plain suck and that’s the truth
a good yoda main can wash any vader 100%%%
in their wildest dreams of course
@@rhejnl alr fine obi then
@@rhejnlnah I can.
is this hero playlist based?
anakins retribution??
Takes time in 1v1s u won't get to that moment in others like hvv he's godly
@@Archideimos_II well it depends if ur a casual player or a tryharder bc i saw a guy that was trying really hard and he was just taking long you know not being too agressive to get retribution and then he won
@@playerslayer2352 fair lower levels aren't gonna do much w him since stamina management etc
Dooku is not even close to s teir. Vader out classes him in everything.
Dooku is certainly S tier now not above Vader ofc but he is the most versatile duelist card wise with also some of the most op cards in the game his 3 abilities are amongst the best his hookswing techs are amongst the best and his health and stamina are decent for 1v1’s he is top 2-3 options easily
Personally I think Rey is garbage, her ability that allows you to invert controls is easily counter by just dashing backwards and her charge is easily parried by mauls choke or vaders choke. Her only good ability is her middle one. I would rather have yoda or any other lightsaber duelist over her. This is just my opinion though
Bro no self promo but look at these
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@@Archideimos_II huh?
Also why does kylo not surprise me😂😂😂
You already know how I feel about Kylo 😂😂
Dooku>Vader
In 1v1
Use a Weakness Against Vader And There is No HP and Damage Reduction.
No regen Dooku vs uncared Vader maybe bc damage output but Vader is still tanky dooku might get some problems
I think a "Killstreak Tierlist" would be interesting. For HVV or GA/CS
Switch Luke with Rey. Plus Vader should be in his own tier lol
Dooku above carded vader ? 💀 bro you don’t duel good players do you?
Well most good players run no regen cards and on Vader no cards at all actually so a non carded Vader still can beat a dooku but would have to be careful
@@brys4621most good players bruh you are tripping.
Kylo ren is A tier
I mean ur opinion and his crowd control is great but his ability pool and his dmg are very useless in 1v1s
Kylo in D is abseloutely DESPICABLE
Hes not bad but in hvv and SD he's just not the best he's taking dmg to easily but he has a good crowd control
I make yoda play like a S tear
Sorry god lol
if only they didn’t nerf anakin
He was way to strong they fucked him still with all those glitches
Obi wan with regen gaps rey
Both are a problem in the right hands but I do put obi over rey but rey def is still S tier 3 dashes fast stam regen one of the most lethal knockdowns in the game her weakness is health ofc which is why I put obi above he has everything defense offense stamina health etc
@@brys4621 neither are S tier
Chewbacca is the best against darthvader
Rey has no force abilities tho
Mind trick and insight would both be considered force abilities
I don’t hate Rey
Luke HAS to be A
Rey is the worst light side duellist.
Kylo is broken 😭
Bad broken? He's not ass but there are better options
Not correct list, even with no banns
A Good Anakin or Luke Player>A Max Rey
No diff.
A Good Maul Player>max Rey.
someone didn't like the sequels
@@rhejnl Sequel Is the Worst between The Series and Anyone Who Thinks That Those Movies Had Potential Well They Are Brainless.Even s Dog Knows That Ep 7 8 9 Is Shit
Anakin over rey is insane the other takes are debateable tho
The thing is idk why ur specifically say MAX bc i gotta say levels don’t say anything but rey is a great hero (at least in game) ofc ani and Luke deal more damage
Rey Sucks
In the movies yea but not in game her dash strike is strong and she deals good dmg
@@Archideimos_IIlmao “not in the movies” caught me off guard but it’s true 😂
@@luna4164 I mean disney did it all wrong
Characters like hux and kylo had so much potential but they fucked it😂
@@Archideimos_IIher damage is the worst, as is her stamina.
@@elric5371 u played the game before?