The One True Savarkar Face-off: MP Shashi Tharoor Vs Historian Vikram Sampath| India Today Conclave

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  • Defence Minister Rajnath Singh said on Tuesday Hindu Mahasabha leader Vinayak Damodar Savarkar wrote mercy petitions to the British government during India's freedom struggle on the advice of Mahatma Gandhi.
    Take a look at India Today Conclave 2021, where MP Shashi Tharoor Vs Historian Vikram Sampath talked and discussed about Savarkar.
    Vikram Sampath Talks About The Many Facets Of Savarkar, he said, "There are many facets to a person like Savarkar who is a very complicated figure," Vikram Sampath says. He adds that the British never trusted Savarkar, which is why his five-year jail term was stretched to 13 years."
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ความคิดเห็น • 393

  • @sudipchatterjee1003
    @sudipchatterjee1003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    This guy Vikram is so eloquent, so knowledgeable, his thought process s so crystal clear, Mr playboy n Rajdeep look novice infront of him.

    • @sureshshinde2013
      @sureshshinde2013 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dear Mr. Sudip,, Mr. Vikram Sampat is Born after the general election of 2014. Lots of New writers are in Q to take Birth... Mr. Triloki Nath Chakravarti was in Kala Pani Jail for 35. Yrs 5 months. Who refused to signed the offer application of British Government for mercy release.. If Savarkar was Great, then sacrifice of Bhagat Singh, Azad, Netajee, and many are really waste.... Sorry.

    • @rishikeshjoshi3489
      @rishikeshjoshi3489 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@sureshshinde2013 1. Dr. Sampath's first book was in 2008 not 2014.
      2. What's the point of pitting Bhagat Singh vs Savarkar? When Bhagat Singh himself wrote this for Savarkar - “The one who loves this world is that braveheart, whom we don’t feel ashamed to call as a fierce insurgent and a fanatic anarchist - this is the Veer (brave) Savarkar,” I can share the link if you'd like.
      3. It is you, the one who's blinded by a fog of illiteracy. It is you, who's a handicap against mental effort to know the truth. It is you, who's so infantile in his articulation - that it'd have been better to rub my face against bare concrete, at least that would have some intellectual heft.
      4. Drop your Marathi last name, you do not deserve it.
      Kalji ghya.

  • @vedashriram39
    @vedashriram39 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Bose honored sufficiently. Shameless statement by the great Tharoor

    • @raninmani60
      @raninmani60 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why Mr. Sashi Tharoor n Mr. Rajdeep Sardesai are adamant on over ruling whatever Mr. Sampath says. It's obvious both r using their position to confirm to the public that what has been done should not be undone if it's going to affect people who have done it. History repeats itself. By the way why not a film on Rajdeep?

  • @MrSuresh1963
    @MrSuresh1963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I have a question to you Tharoor ji You are saying If Savarkar were died like Bhagatsingh we would have considered him a National Hero. Can you extend the same logic to Gandhiji and Chacha Nehru?

    • @tatakae9102
      @tatakae9102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe

    • @user-ms6ue6yu3c
      @user-ms6ue6yu3c 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Read Bhagat Singh's letters to his party friends in which he has praised Jawaharlal Nehru.
      Mahatma Gandhi was respected by people from all ideological spectrums, including Dr. Ambedkar. Read the annecdotes.
      Dr. Ambedkar worked day night to help India move on path of modern democracy on respectful grounds.
      Vinayak Damodar Savarkar was a freedom fighter till 1910, but, after this his method of doing politics and ideological opposition changed.
      Similar thing happened with Jinnah.
      I respect Savarkar for his freedom fighting struggle till the time he did not become apologetic to British.
      One must be careful and respectful but must not support blatant lies.

    • @rf8442
      @rf8442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@user-ms6ue6yu3c itna daaru mat pi 😑😑 kuch bhi bhok mat

    • @sureshshinde2013
      @sureshshinde2013 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dear Mr Suresh.. Some facts about Only freedom fighter Patriot and Great Nationalist of RSS and Hindu Mahasava : - 1. He has an Agreement in writing with British Lord Linlithgo to work with British Government for mutual interest. 2. He was Arranging Campaign with British Army officers for the Recruitment of Indian youth for British Army. 3. He has given Nation wide call to Beycott Quit India Movement in support of British. 4. He also helped British Government to Break the Hunger strike called by Freedom fighter in Kala Pani Jail. 5. He sent a Telegraph to British Queen to Merge India with Nepal in stead of Independence. 6. He had written letters to the Diwan of many States NOT to Join free India. 7. He was chief of Hindu Mahasava. 8. Hindu Mahasava formed coalition government in Bengal and Punjab to help British Government. 9. Hindu Mahasava written letter to British government to CRUSH freedom Movement by force 10. Hindu Mahasava also said that NO freedom Movement will be allowed against British in his Ruling stated... 11. He was also a sum of Rs. 60/- PM from the British government as Pension. 12. Kindly comment... 😇😝😅

    • @mrvipul15
      @mrvipul15 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-ms6ue6yu3c baba saheb was a critic of Gandhi - called him a low IQ man..
      Gandhi muslim appeasement lead to 1921 moplah hindu GENOCIDE,
      Have u read ambedkar biography by dhanjay keer ???

  • @winningleader7911
    @winningleader7911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    True history should be reclaimed.

    • @josephjames859
      @josephjames859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      History always belongs to the winner.

    • @arul348
      @arul348 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Know one knows perfect history except people who lived in that era.

    • @gopalramanathan7062
      @gopalramanathan7062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But most Leftists and ‘minority appeasement’ brigade detest it and Tharoor and Desai are some of their mouthpieces.

    • @josephjames859
      @josephjames859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gopalramanathan7062
      Distortion of history is not the monopoly of the left. The right is adept at it too. It happens every where. In the US the black community is upset that they have not been given their due in the American history. There is a popular African saying: 'Until the lion learns how to write, every story will glorify the hunter."

    • @gopalramanathan7062
      @gopalramanathan7062 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@josephjames859 in principle I agree with you. Having said that it is the ‘Left’, ‘Liberal’, the ‘Progressives’ who are now controlling the narrative through the ‘mainstream’ media. Hence it is not a level playing field now. In fact we are in an era absurdity ‘Wokism’. So I stand my ground🙏🏼

  • @CSTamrakar
    @CSTamrakar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I don’t understand why rajdeep wants to poke his nose in every discussion rather than letting the panellists keeping forward their points

  • @suppiahmurugesan8343
    @suppiahmurugesan8343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Forgive but never forget. Otherwise history will repeat. Truth will never die. No matter how hard Shashi Tharoor tries. Reconciliation is only possible if the wrong doers admit and say SORRY to move forward.

    • @elnorton7113
      @elnorton7113 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At least British should give back the antiques they stole now exhibit in their museum.

  • @anandaprasadaraoappasani1923
    @anandaprasadaraoappasani1923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Vikram Sampath hats of to you.

  • @ygcg8696
    @ygcg8696 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Ok!
    We have three debaters on the stage .
    Not two ! 😀

  • @sidharthakamireddy2672
    @sidharthakamireddy2672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Very articulate Vikram Sampath.

    • @mrvipul15
      @mrvipul15 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Humanity and Justice-One Race same could be applied to u

    • @mrvipul15
      @mrvipul15 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Humanity and Justice-One Race how vikaram samnath is against humanity and righteous?
      How veer savarkar was against humanity and righteous?
      THOUGHT FOR TODAY -
      Whats the guarantee the guy u quote didn't have any agenda???

    • @mrvipul15
      @mrvipul15 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Humanity and Justice-One Race
      How Vikram Sampath has "agenda" which is not humanity and righteous?
      How savarkar was against humanity and righteous?
      THOUGH FOR TODAY -
      what made u think guy u quoted didn't have any agenda ??

    • @mrvipul15
      @mrvipul15 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Humanity and Justice-One Race
      How do you know, did you sucked it ???

  • @kumarbrowns
    @kumarbrowns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Tharoor is lying through his teeth about Savarkar.

  • @19mani20
    @19mani20 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Have a museum of what happened during partition, to remember, to regret and to learn.

  • @pbkvijaykulkarni6404
    @pbkvijaykulkarni6404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very nice to hear from Rajdeep - " line from Bajrangi bhaijaan..... pyar baantanaa mushkil ....."
    But what did he do on Jan 26th 2021 ?🤔🤔🤔

  • @thalatarani
    @thalatarani 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Shashi Tharoor Odd Days: Britain owes reparations!
    Shashi Tharoor even Days: dont open up old wpunds by talking about Mughal era. In fact, dont read history!

    • @kumargovin3314
      @kumargovin3314 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stupid tharoor only talks whats is convenient for him

  • @thrineshwaramysorer7463
    @thrineshwaramysorer7463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    There has been several instances of politicians debating on rewriting the history as taught in schools and colleges in order to what is argued as make important corrections needed for bringing out the truth. What is the use of reading the history, which may contain the story of few kings and freedom fighters? As J Krishnamurti puts it: if one can read the history of mankind, which is himself, then the whole lot may be understood about oneself.

  • @nikunjsaboo91
    @nikunjsaboo91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    So British put him in jail cuz they knew Veer Savarkar can gather the masses and hence stopping him from fighting and Congress and it's stooges say where did he fight for freedom. Why wasn't he with Gandhi(who btw didn't do anything to get India free, British just gave it to us in 1947, just like they did to Srilanka in 1948, and they didn't even have a Gandhi). The fact that Veer Savarkar was jailed and all of Gandhi's camp were allowed to live a great life.

    • @josephjames859
      @josephjames859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Then why didn't they keep Netaji in jail? You are simply parroting the lines of people who contributed nothing to freedom struggle and now want to take the credit for it. Gandhi's greatest achievement wasn't the freedom of the nation, but its unification. But for Gandhi, India might have become half a dozen countries after independence.

    • @nikunjsaboo91
      @nikunjsaboo91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@josephjames859 Netaji ran away before he could be jailed. He had Gandhi's support till he didn't turn towards armed struggle. Also you are taking away Patel's contribution and giving it to Gandhi. Gandhi wasn't even alive to see those 1000 Kingdoms integrating into India. Btw I am not saying Savarkar played a role in our freedom, he wasn't allowed to as he was constantly in solitary confinement.

    • @josephjames859
      @josephjames859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nikunjsaboo91
      Netaji left India in 1941. In fact, he had been arrested 11 times between 1921 and 1941, but they released him each time though they were aware of his extremist views and his ability to instigate the masses against them.

    • @josephjames859
      @josephjames859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@nikunjsaboo91
      You are simplifying history. Patel couldn't have put all those apples in the basket without the support of his PM, Nehru. In fact they worked in tandem like Modi and Amit. Don't forget that Goa and Puducherry were annexed after Patel's death. I am not talking about that though.
      Patel was able to do his job so smoothly because Gandhi had brought about an emotional integration among Indians. He made them feel they belonged to one country. Otherwise he would have never succeeded in his mission. Just take the case of the Travancore kingdom in South Keralam. It was one of three, along with Kashmir and Hyderabad, that stubbornly refused to join the Indian Union. It then had a powerful Diwan, Sir C P Ramaswamy Iyer who wouldn't have yielded to Patel so easily, but he was left with no choice because Gandhi had visited Keralam and cast his spell over the people. They turned against the Diwan who had no choice but to flee. Puducherry and Goa were addded to the union in 1961. Though the people there had imbibed the French and Portuguese culture, they wanted to be a part of India, leaving no choice to France and Portugal. It is wrong to give credit to any single individual for the awakening of Nationalism, even Gandhi, but he eventually became the most important catalyst. I have personally listened to old timers in Kerala recalling his name with so much reverence and affection. I am sure if Gandhi had sent his disciples to Sri Lanka and personally visited the land, it would have been part of India Today. Culturally they are very much a part of India. You are probably too young to have personally experienced the kind of influence Gandhiji wielded over the whole of India. We haven't had a leader like him before nor will we ever have. As Einstein remarked, it would be difficult for future generations to believe that such a man walked the earth in flesh and blood.

    • @gopalramanathan7062
      @gopalramanathan7062 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      True. In fact the British had looted Bharath to its hilt and in fact Bharath, and the rest of their colonies in the Indian Subcontinent, were getting to be pain (negative rate of return). So then they decided to dismember Bharath, gave a piece to the First colonisers (called it ‘Pakistan’) and got the hell out. They also left Bharath intellectually colonised and the indigenous Dharmic culture decimated. Only now young minds like Vikram Sampath, Sanjay Dixit, Sai Deepak, and a few others are picking up bits and pieces of our glorious Dharmic culture, traditions, and history back to life and pride. Perhaps finally we are witnessing the true renaissance of our rashtra🕉🙏🏼

  • @mohammedt2956
    @mohammedt2956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Correcting history became a necessity for survival

  • @anuragdandekar6064
    @anuragdandekar6064 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Biggest takeaway of this video - Need to learn to speak like these two

  • @gopalramanathan7062
    @gopalramanathan7062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Tharoor insists on putting some hard facts of our history under the carpet since it doesn’t suit the CONgress era of misrule for the greater part of our post 1947 dismemberment history of Bharath 🙏🏼

    • @meherabhinave6415
      @meherabhinave6415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What we read is congressificationed history

    • @gopalramanathan7062
      @gopalramanathan7062 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@meherabhinave6415 And they would do anything to keep the CONgress narrative as long as they can and whatever cost.

    • @MrSuresh1963
      @MrSuresh1963 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really a meaningful debate between Shashi & Sandeep Good Job Sardesai

  • @arul348
    @arul348 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Learning from history is healthy instead of debating about history. 😐

    • @abhaypatel4292
      @abhaypatel4292 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Depends whose constructed history you gonna learn from

  • @anandaprasadaraoappasani1923
    @anandaprasadaraoappasani1923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    History is always a reminder.

  • @Abhik17D
    @Abhik17D 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    If we are advised not to dig up the past keeping in mind the prospect in future , why did Mr.Tharoor speak about reparations from the British?
    Mr.Sampath is very clear in his approach that the past should be learnt with its entirety .

  • @RahulRoyijk
    @RahulRoyijk ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please also teach the Kerala Travancore famous breast tax etc which was removed by NCERT bcz it shows how great our history was

  • @antonypaulson5618
    @antonypaulson5618 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For all us Indians it is essential to understand that we are here today as a free country based on the struggles of these men. We are forever indebted to any and all sacrifices they made for us to have a chance at life. There was no Gandhi vs. Savarkar at that time, they were all trying to achieve a single goal “Freedom” through any means they thought was most right. Only respect and gratitude 🙏

  • @emmaressnadhan8013
    @emmaressnadhan8013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Sardesai pls arrange a debate on why Gandhiji and Nehru were not prisoned at cellular Jail.

  • @anandaprasadaraoappasani1923
    @anandaprasadaraoappasani1923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If Godse has to condemned so should Gandhi and Nehru be.

  • @raonr
    @raonr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There is a lot of substance in what Vikram Sampath speaks. Undoubtedly Savarkar is a tall figure in Indian History. It's high time to give him that place. As Sampath said truthyfying the Indian History is the requirement.

    • @azizhamid6480
      @azizhamid6480 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you completely missed the point. Think out of binaries.

  • @pradipkumarhazarika4307
    @pradipkumarhazarika4307 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Sampath nailed it 👌

  • @jaydevsinhparmar238
    @jaydevsinhparmar238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Congress supported Khilafat movement, congress created Islamic Pakistan but they blame RSS for for division of nation , if RSS is responsible for division nation than why only Islamic pakistan created ? Why not Hindu Rastra created ?

  • @kumarbrowns
    @kumarbrowns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You are suppressing the scars of the past, Sardesai. We want the truth be told.

  • @reshmagurnani6667
    @reshmagurnani6667 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For so long we had left the past to the past. Result is as the truth evolves today we are realizing that past maybe left to the past but truth has to be known all the time. Presently we are coming to know that it is time to explore and analyse these truths. Updation of history is need of the hour.

  • @ArchanaSingh-dv6ek
    @ArchanaSingh-dv6ek ปีที่แล้ว +1

    History repeats itself in a pattern
    That is why it’s important to discuss the what aboutary Mr Tharoor.

  • @NoVideo2024
    @NoVideo2024 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tharoor, you are not even 10% of what Savarkar was. He was a poet, historian, philosopher, writer, social reformer and freedom fighter. Who are you? You are on bail, accused for murdering your wife!!

  • @rram4772
    @rram4772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ST & RS should read Francoise Gutier.

  • @srkorde
    @srkorde 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Provocative as usual and in a false world of self glory, the Anchor seemed infinitely short in facts and different dimensions of the History. A good rapping on his knuckles, much needed and aptly delivered by both the speakers.... 🤨👍

  • @saurabhbanerjee2998
    @saurabhbanerjee2998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Learning history and building a modern future should co-exist. It is not one or the other. One cannot sweep inconvenient truth under the carpet on the pretext of looking into the future.

  • @agadurapparamachandra8291
    @agadurapparamachandra8291 ปีที่แล้ว

    First let Rajdeep know that no Government has allowed our all embracing Sanatana dharma or Hinduism to bloom in its fullest extent.

  • @travellerlife5522
    @travellerlife5522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whatever history is , those who write and say hate has no place even in history. Forget them

  • @tamals22
    @tamals22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Left was a B team of Congress for political reasons in 1967 they saved Congress government

    • @gopalramanathan7062
      @gopalramanathan7062 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly right. Tharoor is plying a slight of hand trick. The CONgress always took help from the loony Left and the ‘minority vote bank’ to stay in power and destroy the Dharmic Bharath from rising and asserting its voice🕉🙏🏼

    • @brajat5538
      @brajat5538 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Left is for have-nots only, you might know the wrong left.

  • @rbyogin3614
    @rbyogin3614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Partition happened...
    Savarkar was right...

    • @brajat5538
      @brajat5538 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Congrats, may that bring good for you

  • @saleempeevee2174
    @saleempeevee2174 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    What a clarity and intelligence of Dr.Tharoor ?
    Amazing
    He is really a genuine source of information and wisdom.

    • @ganeshr8891
      @ganeshr8891 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He so said rape, killing and forced Conversions.. Maybe referring to..

    • @srkorde
      @srkorde 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He is not and he even stated so, that he doesn't have full knowledge of many Historical Facts.

  • @surencholkar
    @surencholkar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's good that Dr. Tharoor now knows how Hridaynath Mangeshkar was treated for composing songs of Savarkar. Maybe he needs to know much more.

  • @vishalpandule5585
    @vishalpandule5585 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Waaw rajdeep ji, kitni ache anker ho aaap jo apko suit karta hai usiko highlight karte, accha aur apko lagta hoga ki ap bohot bade patrakar, but that's not true.
    And about shashi ji, you speak well english but your speech don't have sparp. This all debet is about savarkar but u don't tell why you and congress party oppose Savarkar ji so sharply if he did any thing wrong present it infront of people of india instead of doing that you trying to remove importance of histroy! Woow what a thinking. And don't consider that you will tel any faltu american writer name and people of india impress from that that's not true.
    And about Sampatji : well done you put your point so clearly. And try to give justice.
    And I appreciate your efforts that you did it in presence of bias anchor.
    Jay hind🇮🇳

  • @samardatar
    @samardatar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Rajdeep... wonder how he is even invited to any event anymore, Dr Tharoor ...always pains to see such a brilliant mind rotting in Congress and refusing to use his brilliant brains. Vikram ...great job and more power to you...

  • @rbyogin3614
    @rbyogin3614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The wound need truth reconciliation commission to heal...

  • @abhashukla2281
    @abhashukla2281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    As big a fan I am of Tharoor but let's admit Vikram won.

    • @blistering2900
      @blistering2900 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Won by what ??

    • @abhashukla2281
      @abhashukla2281 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blistering2900 Not won by but won from .

    • @blistering2900
      @blistering2900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@abhashukla2281 He is a sakha historian with brainwashed anecdotes

    • @nilayray6417
      @nilayray6417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@blistering2900 ...interesting...btw what is the definition of 'brainwash' and why you yourself can't be a contender of a perfect example of that?

    • @blistering2900
      @blistering2900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nilayray6417 Very interesting fact is that you are a victim of that brainwash. I think you have graduated from the so called watsapp university.
      Savarkar wrote 5 mercy petition between 1911-13 and Gandhi came to India in 1915. So Mr sampath and his minions need to understand that

  • @josephjames859
    @josephjames859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If there were more historians like Vikram Sampat on the right, we would finally get somewhere close to truth provided the politicians keep away.

  • @botheredbewildered5646
    @botheredbewildered5646 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can Mr. Sampath please make the effort to learn the meaning of the word 'tuned'.

  • @NoVideo2024
    @NoVideo2024 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Veer Savarkar doesn't need validation of fellow freedom fighters like Bhagat Singh or Gandhi to make his image clear. Shamelessly, Congress has reduced him to some kind of criminal.

  • @ulkabaxi7126
    @ulkabaxi7126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Randeep Sardesai looks/is a used car salesman.

  • @saurabhbanerjee2998
    @saurabhbanerjee2998 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let the entire truth be told. Not selective truth.

  • @ganeshr8891
    @ganeshr8891 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How punish the current Brahmins /forward caste for presumed atrocities of past? Congress 😏

  • @mintusaren895
    @mintusaren895 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You tube e upload korlei yadi sab hoto.
    Tahale chintai nai.

  • @lalitmohan6511
    @lalitmohan6511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shashi Tharoor does not know anything. Savarkar never advocated any militancy and thus was not a mentor to Nathuram Godse. Does Tharoor know that Godse had joined Hindu Mahasabha before he killed Gandhi ? In fact , Godse was disillusioned with Savarkar's view of passive resistance . Now , was Godse wrong in killing Gandhi ? Tharoor must read the statement made by Godse regarding Savarkar and Gandhi before shooting his mouth

    • @lalitmohan6511
      @lalitmohan6511 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mr Tharoor , Shimon Peres behaved like gandhi did in 1947. He is the only Israeli PM killed by his own countryman because of his poor actions like M K Gandhi

    • @lalitmohan6511
      @lalitmohan6511 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mr Tharoor , we are ashamed of having u in our country

  • @naveenchandran5691
    @naveenchandran5691 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't have to know wt was the history for live my life i want to look at wt is for tomorrow how can I survive simple as that

  • @Sathia_Remix
    @Sathia_Remix 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    AB Vajpayee Ji was termed the right man in the wrong party
    BUT
    it is Sashi who is a good (meaning: intelligent) man in a bad (meaning: non-patriotic) party

  • @johngeevarghese1354
    @johngeevarghese1354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A struggle between two political religions for control of the Indian subcontinent. Have a film on periyar, ambedkar and jyotiba phule. These are leaders who tried to make life easy for the victims of the heinous struggle between political religions.

  • @sganesh233
    @sganesh233 ปีที่แล้ว

    The more congress speaks, the deeper public will come to know VEER SAVARKAR

  • @probirchakravorty328
    @probirchakravorty328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jitna bhi tharoor and sardesai knowledgeable ho, yeh log anti hindu hain aur unhe bhej dena chahiye Afghanistan aur Muslim desh mein.

  • @ravinair4296
    @ravinair4296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shasi please give a better counter

  • @brajat5538
    @brajat5538 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There was Purandare who reduced Shivaji for personal gains, like who?

  • @tushkoli
    @tushkoli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Savarkar is one of the most important figures in Indian Independence. The British Administration of the time were wary about him, and knew His potential and capability, hence tried to keep Him in Andaman, away from India, as long as possible. And He was also an outstanding Poets of His times. His work 'Kamala' is one of the best literary pieces in the World. He should have got a Nobel Prize for his Works, which are very sensitive, deep, meaningful and of highest order.

  • @ragnarkasnia
    @ragnarkasnia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    More you try to hide things under carpet more they emerge out. No one is fool except you who thinks every uneasy discourse will end up polarizing. Indians will learn more about history when discussed.

  • @kamalseth2322
    @kamalseth2322 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Telling i am not spokesman of bjp during debate is example of a true bjp spokesman

  • @kevincastelino3209
    @kevincastelino3209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We are still using the British language to debate who was a better freedom fighter is Ironic. Unfortunately, English language seems to be uniting Indians in 2021.

    • @Jagan-lp8gu
      @Jagan-lp8gu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Geopolitical reasons

  • @JyotiEntertainmentProduction
    @JyotiEntertainmentProduction 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What are you saying Mr. Tharoor? Just to appease a particular community, you'll deliberately distort history? History is about learning the truth about the past. You're talking about teaching false narrative here man! Shame 😡

  • @sandeeputtamchandani6810
    @sandeeputtamchandani6810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree history should not be projected to present and used as filter to look at a certain community but if that community itself idolises a tyrant, hate monger, animalistic, brutal murderer and rapist as a hero and many of such character as protectors and propogators of their faith then we have a serious problem. Mr. Tharoor cleverly steers away the discussion by saying that WE SHOULD FORGET HISTORY AND FOCUS ON FUTURE. And I agree totally totally with him only if everyone is working just towards the betterment of collective future but do we see that? We have a neighbor ( Afghanistan) in 21st century which has turned into an ultra conservative medieval age nation and we have sections of people openly or discreetly celebrating that just because they believe in a particular faith or a book or a system of beliefs. Then Mr. Tharoor I am tempted to project history or project a system of beliefs ( which is actively thriving) to present times because it is causing a lot of unrest and insecurity to my modern thinking mind and the future of my coming generations. Let's forget history. And so let's forget historical and bullshit prescribed laws. How about that? Let's implement UCC because it talks about future. Let's have one modern and contemporary and history free law for every citizen. How about that? Let me see how this blue eyed tharoor stand upto it?

  • @vishnuthakur9520
    @vishnuthakur9520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Correcting history, glorifying our forgotten heroes and reconciliation is very important. It's very easy to say and brain wash entire 3 to 4 generations that Gandhi gave us Independence by spining Charkha and then after 75 years say that let's not look at the past, let's look at the future. Are you kiding?

  • @vedashriram39
    @vedashriram39 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why does this man, Rajdeep make us feel apologetic about being Hindu? No where in this world does the majority community suffer so much as in India? Shashi tharoor is aware of the truth. He doesn't want to face it cause of his political leanings

    • @azizhamid6480
      @azizhamid6480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol. Only BJP suffer because India loves peace and they are made of hatred.
      Indians don't want BJP, who always does Hindu-Muslim all the time, without any real ground

    • @akshaykulkarni9889
      @akshaykulkarni9889 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@azizhamid6480 Yes, we dont want BJP to that extent, that we voted them to power with 303+ seats. Madarsse se bahar aa jao.

    • @exsecular8157
      @exsecular8157 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@azizhamid6480 u Muslims christian and anti hindus (communists) in hindu religion don't want BJP in India
      Others vote for bjp

  • @weaklinkci9715
    @weaklinkci9715 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How come Rajdeep is not in Prison?

  • @jameswatkins5551
    @jameswatkins5551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    thanks for discussing on jobs, healthcare, poverty, economy and housing.

    • @brajat5538
      @brajat5538 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boi2679 isn't modiji in control of rice bags?

    • @brajat5538
      @brajat5538 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boi2679 Didn't got much for my hunger index

  • @shekhardhamnaskar2571
    @shekhardhamnaskar2571 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It suddenly dawned on the anchor that history is now written in a manner to polarize the understanding of the people. Does he mean to imply that history during earlier times was most honestly written and true to facts?
    The generation of today is clever to understand the sinister role the Congress in presenting the history suited to their political ideology.

  • @abdullahsharay3157
    @abdullahsharay3157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Savarkar was a godamm coward.
    He wrote mercy petition nothing can change that .
    If Savarkaraur his ilk really believed in patriotism and nation building India wouldn't have been ranked 101 in the human hungerindex Indian passport is ranked 90th in the most powerful password rankings this is what Savarkar and his ilk has done

  • @ALIYYILA
    @ALIYYILA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Who was Savarkar? Was he with Mahatma Gandhi during the freedom struggles? Did he fight for people?

    • @ashwinprakashe3941
      @ashwinprakashe3941 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes he fought when very few fought

    • @ashokupadhyaya1982
      @ashokupadhyaya1982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes... then why he was put behind bars? Which freedom fighter has been jailed for 10 years... in a jail like Andaman... has also undergone such atrocities... All others have enjoyed their imprisonments llll One should visit Andaman jail before commenting on Savarkar... Subhashchadra Bose, Dr Ambedkar many others who fought for Azadi were not with Gandhiji....
      Even today’s leaders go for Anticipatory bail... when they are put in present jail with all amenities....
      When Partition was already decided and Muslim League had asked for separate state.. read about Muslim League also... Savarkar preferred to come out and work for Hindustan and Hindu...
      We forget atrocities of Moghuls... Angrej were far better than Moghuls....

    • @ketansharma855
      @ketansharma855 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ashokupadhyaya1982 enjoyed their imprisonment? Would like to englighten us Benighted heathens sir

    • @123xyzabccba
      @123xyzabccba 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ashokupadhyaya1982 : Savarkar n his brother were not given any torturous duty in Andamans as per the records available….many preferred to die instead of begging clemency n grab British pension. Post his release Savarkar acted as British stooge n did everything possible to weaken the independence movement including goading Indians to join British army n weaken the quit India movement. Before getting jailed Savarkar was a revolutionary but not after being jailed …..

    • @ashokupadhyaya1982
      @ashokupadhyaya1982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@123xyzabccba first visit Andaman jail... What treatment they were given,.. Imagine yourself or any other leader who are criticising Savarkar can live in such jail with such treatment... at least for 7 days..... it is a torture... If Hindu goes with Moghuls become senapati, sainik of Moghul badashah performs Kurdish in darabar it is acceptable but if any one goes with Angrej it is annoying.... where Gandhiji, Jinha, Nehru etc went for study....Who are taking asylum in their countries... why they do not prefer to die....,Muslim League also supported Angrej in world war...many have joined British army....Pakistan senapati and 93000 sainiks were captured and surrendered ... Mafinama was given by Pak senapati.. why they do not preferred to die... People go to country of Angrej for education medical treatment job etc become Mayor, Governors, minister etc.. They left India .. without retaining any part of country nor claiming any right.... When partition was already decided why there was katleam of lakhs of people, Batwara should have taken peacefully... even after independence why there were atyachar on Hindus in Kashmi? Why Bangladesh war? Who are better ?

  • @ManjuSubin
    @ManjuSubin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Essentially the topic of this debate is about the Hindu vs Islamic divide in India. But it's only concealed with other things.

    • @azizhamid6480
      @azizhamid6480 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's what BJP wants. Increasing divide between Hindu and Muslims which is good for their vote bank, but India suffers. But have they ever cared for India, apart from power?

    • @abhaypatel4292
      @abhaypatel4292 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@azizhamid6480 well not debate if you can loose it ...a left history a left version of history is rightfully challenged.. it's now upto the people what they wanna see..a left right balance can't be there what can be there is a right left equal playing feild for the history, debate and ideologies...also if Hindu Muslim divide would have helped so much i wonder why they are ruling Christian majority states in North east and populas Goa...

    • @HA-rn2iu
      @HA-rn2iu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@azizhamid6480In India, only the Hindus should win.

  • @usmank9733
    @usmank9733 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was a freedom fighter...but in the jail wrote excuse and sorry....after the exit from jail he accepted hsppily money monthly ,from British government,for which he was spying for the British government....

  • @nabajyotiray6119
    @nabajyotiray6119 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which way Netaji honoured in free India@ Sasi Tharoor?

  • @ganeshjaguva9101
    @ganeshjaguva9101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the more u see shashi tharoor the more u start feeling he has a slave mentality.,, y does he want to speak like British ... apart from words he doesn't have anything else.

  • @abdulsattarcassim5735
    @abdulsattarcassim5735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    History is of no value if it cannot be supported by written evidence. Alas the roles of Savarkar and Gandhi may have had an influence on Indias freedom struggle but all that can be said that both were graduates of British politics and Gandhi succeeded where Savarkar failed.

    • @HA-rn2iu
      @HA-rn2iu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, Gandhi wasn't in Andaman jail to not succeed in active politics like Savarkar. That Savarkar was in Jail and Gandhi wasn't tells a lot. A lot actually on who was the real hero.

    • @abdulsattarcassim5735
      @abdulsattarcassim5735 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HA-rn2iu g

    • @abdulsattarcassim5735
      @abdulsattarcassim5735 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The satyagraha movement of Gandhi won India its freedom . Savarkars ideas caused the death of Mahatma Gandhi. His death was not in vain. India did not have to adopt the revolutionary ideas of Savarkar which has given the birth of the BJP which has unashamedly caused irreparable harm to the Muslim minority. Modi has by his silence encouraged the massacre an damage. I ask quo vadis India. Is there a genocide possible as is being predicted.

    • @HA-rn2iu
      @HA-rn2iu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@abdulsattarcassim5735 Come on. Be rational. The old man was a non threatening, non violent peddling ignorant man hoping for freedom from the British. The dangerous one, who could get freedom was in Jail. As simple as that.

  • @davetorcan6047
    @davetorcan6047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow it is time to give credit to all those who lost lives - not only Gandhi.

    • @glongshah3934
      @glongshah3934 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We are not respecting to only Gandhi but we are respecting all the every single person those whose life were given for our freedom but we can't take all the names as a father of the nation because there were hundred and thousand people's were given their life for our freedom struggle but we took only one name as a father of our nation which is Gandhiji because he was a leader in 1947.

  • @rbyogin3614
    @rbyogin3614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It is sickening to hear shasi tharoor...

    • @bringsanitytodiscussions498
      @bringsanitytodiscussions498 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is why I hate democracy

    • @blistering2900
      @blistering2900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Its barbaric to see sampath peddling lies

    • @ashokupadhyaya1982
      @ashokupadhyaya1982 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is quite over wise.... he is much more near to Angrej... in every respect ...

    • @bringsanitytodiscussions498
      @bringsanitytodiscussions498 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ashokupadhyaya1982 I don’t like wise people either. Hard work is better than Harvard.

    • @ketansharma855
      @ketansharma855 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ashokupadhyaya1982 remove English what have u got a country with thousand dialects where no would understand eachother

  • @akhillurrehman6088
    @akhillurrehman6088 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Similarly even manusmriti must be discussed

    • @samudrachakraborty6642
      @samudrachakraborty6642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No need because it's not followed anywhere in India

    • @exsecular8157
      @exsecular8157 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Similarly terror manual must be dicussed. Terror manual is the root cause for terrorism all over the world

  • @geralofrivia2.0
    @geralofrivia2.0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done Sampath.

  • @Zapfirst
    @Zapfirst 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you don't have to be in a political party to have an H Ideology lol

  • @rajendrakumarduggar1835
    @rajendrakumarduggar1835 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The whataboutery happens when you talk of 2002 and don’t talk about 1984

  • @MrIndee4u
    @MrIndee4u ปีที่แล้ว

    As expected tharoor very cleverly trurstvto sweep under carpets historic fallacies let alone acknowledge

  • @knnpillai7438
    @knnpillai7438 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not reinterpreting, but twisting history to ceate new icons of one's own liling.

  • @dineshgupta-ir9zi
    @dineshgupta-ir9zi ปีที่แล้ว

    How many congress men were hanged by the British. How many congress man were incarcerated in cellulor jail/kala pani and had to suffer atrocities. Hardly any.
    I do not know much about savarkar. But how can you compare Nehru to savarkar. Nehru lived in relative comfort in British jail. He wrote ' discovery of india' in jail. Savarkar was allowed no such luxury.
    India only commorates only one gandhi-nehru-vadra dynasty as if only this one family got us our independence and all the rest of the freedom fighters contributed next to nothing.

  • @pushpakpati8044
    @pushpakpati8044 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    why are we even discussing historical figures now in the middle of so many issues in India?
    isn't it another Overton window?

  • @milindpatankarspeaks7159
    @milindpatankarspeaks7159 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sampat telling Hridaynath Mangeshkar story is not correct. Mangeshkar never in service of Radio.

  • @drvarunmurthy
    @drvarunmurthy ปีที่แล้ว

    India is a melting pot of all cultures because of the sanatan cultural and civilisational values. When we talk of the greatness of India as a civilisation it is hindu cultural values that are referred to.
    Islam and Christianity and any other foreign faiths can exist, grow and was and is being accepted as a part of our traditional diversity. But, their philosophies are not a part of our culture.
    Indian culture is hindu culture. All Indians come from these hindu roots. At the same time each one is free to follow any path of their choice for their personal lives. That’s the greatness of sanatan dharma.
    As long as Muslims and Christians deny their roots and try to equate their religions with sanatan dharma, they’ll not be in a position to coexist and will lead to constant irritation in society by their irrational equalisation and false equivalence.
    Accept the truth and stay happy. It’s so difficult for them because for them one way is right and all others are wrong. Problem is in their basic religious philosophies.
    Nationalistic Education and more education, cultural re-rooting of these distorted Indians and civilisational integration with religious diversity is the way for India to become a Vishwa guru..

  • @agadurapparamachandra8291
    @agadurapparamachandra8291 ปีที่แล้ว

    O Shashi then make Muslims to give up Kashi temple and Mathura temple encroachment.
    Please don’t try to teach all encompassing Hindus.

  • @VIWA1
    @VIWA1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shashi Tharoor is an empty bag, just good English does not compensate for lack of deep study in our history’s forgotten heroes like Vikram has done. This is the time where the clock of 70 years will turn, all the suppressed great heroes like Savarkar, Subhash Chandra Bose, Rash Behari Bose and other revolutionaries will come to the fore. Tharoor admits that he does not know history enough, so he and Rajdeep should LISTEN MORE to scholars like Vikram and SPEAK LESS.

  • @abdukader9639
    @abdukader9639 ปีที่แล้ว

    Look how sambath appeasing rss. People are struggling to find a position.

  • @rram4772
    @rram4772 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ST appears comfortable now, not with debate with J Sai Deepak

    • @gopalramanathan7062
      @gopalramanathan7062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because Tharoor has got Desai on his side, and Vikram is a lot less assertive than Sai Deepak. To confront this smooth talking adharmic duo you need a sledgehammer like Sai Deepak😉

    • @rram4772
      @rram4772 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      👍Right onj

  • @pawangupta6825
    @pawangupta6825 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What pomposity! Rajdeep specially but tharoor too. Learn a bit of humility and authenticity from sampathh

    • @ketansharma855
      @ketansharma855 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What exactly did they do?
      Not confer to your bias😂😂 is that the reason why they appear such snobs to u?

  • @ravikumar-nn2lz
    @ravikumar-nn2lz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Vikram Sampath is great. Beats Shashi Tharoor deeply.

    • @brajat5538
      @brajat5538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Congrats, may that bring good for you

    • @azizhamid6480
      @azizhamid6480 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really? Just in your own world. Nobody 'beat' each other. The entire debate was a winner. But typical bhakts.

  • @mynameisakku
    @mynameisakku 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    God, Rajdeep is the worst anchor he keeps barking.

  • @shankysays
    @shankysays ปีที่แล้ว

    Unless the invaders are stopped getting worshiped and the invaders only stay in history books and museums as a grim reminder of horrors of past. I'm fine . But if you glorify the invaders and grandify and whitewash their crimes and honor him by visiting his mazar and dargah, i have a problem because you're not just dismissing my ancestors plight but also rubbing salt in my wound.

  • @YMK08
    @YMK08 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats wrong with the host??.. I thought he is there to ask questions instead of answering his own questions.. lol

    • @hemantpatil6947
      @hemantpatil6947 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was a brhamin converted to anti-hindu

  • @vijaychougale4211
    @vijaychougale4211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We should read Vir Savarkar's literature to know about his views rather than listening to this tug of war.. there is library monument after his name near dadar, Mumbai. Please just listen to the poem mentioned here, sung by great Lata Mangeshkar.. and make up your mind.