🛠 Narrowband, Wideband, Bosch or NTK - O2 sensors explained | TECHNICALLY SPEAKING
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It cannot be overstated just how important it is to get reliable and accurate data from your wideband air-fuel ratio meter. And while there is a multitude of different wideband O2 sensors on the market and they don’t all play nicely together.
Before discussing the different types of sensors, let’s start at the beginning and look at what narrowband and wideband sensors are and how they work. It's Technically Speaking time!
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It's Technically Speaking time again!
It cannot be overstated just how important it is to get reliable and accurate data from your wideband air-fuel ratio meter. And while there is a multitude of different wideband O2 sensors on the market and they don’t all play nicely together.
Before discussing the different types of sensors, let’s start at the beginning and look at what narrowband and wideband sensors are and how they work.
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We highly recommend watching the videos below to get a better understanding of this topic:
Ignition Timing vs AFR: th-cam.com/video/aDSZhy551bo/w-d-xo.html
Volumetric Efficiency (VE) Explained: th-cam.com/video/E96rBIzZ_sE/w-d-xo.html
Tuning with Volumetric Efficiency: th-cam.com/video/uPjIS9Tg83M/w-d-xo.html
On a side note, THAT COWLICK THO! lmaooo :P
Hairdressers are currently closed here in Sydney... which is sad for Matt.
Looks like he's spent the night on a beef ranch 🐄😂👍
Was thinking hat hair...
Channelling his inner Wolverine
I though Matt had a new WB NTK unit trimmed into the side of his head!
Really looking forward to hooking one of these into my Barra Pro Plug-in soon! 👏
I've been running my car on a elite 1000 with an Wideband Controller since late august, it's really easy to setup on the software as well on the canbus wiring. It's apparently very accurate, and cherry on the cake it's so much cleaner visually than my old wideband controller from another brand.
I've been enjoying these videos, I don't have a haltech ecu, but once I swap my r32 from auto to manual I'm going to get a haltech.
the trouble with being a good dad is when the 6 yo wants to learn hairdressing. Well this came along at the right time for me as i'm adding a supercharger to my car. Now I can figure out the correct O2 sensor for it. Great info.
Great video i would also add that the NTK sensor can run reliability in higher heat range than it’s bosch counterpart its a better and more reliable unit at a cost but you pay for what you get if your running a Rotary i would highly recommend the NTK sensor they love to run richer and have extremely high EGT temps and the added cost will pay for it self
In this episode Matt gingerly tiptoes around saying "Narrow band O2 sensors are for the purely utilitarian motor vehicles that will bore your nuts off, OK?". No worries Matt. We hard you loud and clear! :P
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So what if your working on a performance diesel would it be better to use the NTK wideband?
Very well explained 👍
Glad you liked it:)
Matt what about sensor compensation if the 02 sensor is seeing boost in individual runner pre turbo.
Can the Haltech lambda controller communicate via can to other makes of aftermarket ems?
Cool you have an Oklahoma license plate (tag) good video!!
What’s the PN for that more robust NTK o2 sensor?
Matt, does the CAN bus work on a lager tinnie?
Interesting. how fast does those sensor respond? narrowband and wideband
Well looks like I know which sensor I'm going with now for my haltech elite 1500 ECU with the b18c2.😎👍
I can't stop looking at this guy's hair. What is that over there in the back?
It's an antenna implant for remote tuning.
@@haltech Wait? You already got Matt upgraded to a Nexus R5?!? Gotta be epic fun turning his sensors on and off at random in the office! :D
who did his hair, trump's hair stylist ?
Never mind the office, the pranks we have planned for him while he's on holidays are next level....
That's right. No expense spared in the hair and make-up department.
Will it work on a stand-alone dash?
If you are saying a catalytic converter needs an oscillating lambda reading for it to work, does that mean the cat won’t work with a wide band sensor?
Good Stuff. Looks like I'm not the only one cutting my own hair these days. edit: My wife hates it too!
desperate times call for desperate measures...
@@haltech Absolutely! And he still got in front of the camera and got it done. 👍
Would you recommend the NTK over 4.9 I am currently running on my Evo 8? I have burned through a lot of 4.9s. It is full E85 street/Drag car.
Did u install it correctly ? Any O2 must be installed at 15° angle (or biger/smaller, check manual) due to condensation... This sensor have heaters wich are heating to aprox 600°C every time you turn ignition on, small drop of water is enought to kill this heater, so double check that. And can you tell us how long did it last ? I mean how long aprox. Das your last sensor lasted. And allso what was the problem when it stoped working ? (Heater? Or it allways show rich/lean condition? Or something different?) And lastly, does your car have 2step/antilag ? 😂
Another great video Matt.
I just bought an AEM wideband and then bought an Elite 550. Can i wiring the AEM wideband into the elite 550 through the DPI or should i just go the WB1. Also, can i just used the AEM bosch sensor in the WB1
Use analog input pin
Don't use the aem controller, it's old tech, slow at responding. Use can bus not an old slow analogue input
@@elitecol69 I ended up getting the haltech WB1 CAN 👍🏼
Do you guys have a dual wide band sensor controller and sensors and gauges for use on a carbureted car or in the future will you look at producing them ?
I know that there are others on the market but they can be not so accurate or reliable!?
I would like to use one in my own car
They have the carburetor version of the dash and the dual channel canbus wideband controller
What is the difference using a dedicated wide band controller vs using the output wire from something like an AEM wideband gauge directly to the ECU?
The ecu won't get reliable diagnostic Information about the sensor.
CAN is superior
Accuracy can be an issue when you are using a seperate devices, due to ground lifting and signal resolution. If you scope the analogue outputs from some widebands, they are very coarse.
So will the ntk sensor last longer in a daily street driven petrol / e85 car over the lsu4.9?
For a daily running on petrol we would recommend the Bosch LSU 4.9 kit.
@@haltech lpg?
Can the wide band do diesel
Why would you want to know the air to fuel ratios of a fuel regulated engine? stoichiometric of a diesel engine is 14.6:1 but the only one you will see this is at full boost or at no boost. When you’re building boost it will add fuel to increase engine rpm. Diesel engine aren’t ran of a throttle plate they use fuel to control rpm.
His OBD2 port is sticking out
*My Lexus GS300 corrects itself with air to fuel ratio.*
Loving the hair lol
Why is there a Oklahoma license plate in the back?
A souvenir from our Street Outlaws friends.
Hey Matt. I just installed the WB1 on my Evo 9 Wagon. I made a video of it too if you're interested. its the latest one in my TH-cam channel
Wait hold on you power this sensor thru a relay separately or just any ordinary switched power input?
Usually any circuit on a car should have a relay to void drawing to much current from a signal wire that’s only meant to activate a relay. If there is an open 12v switched fuse you can use that or even better is a relay triggered by the fuel pump ECU pin. That way it will not remain on when the key is on and engine off to avoid burning out the sensor since it will heat up and have no gases to cool it back down.
Lol yea ya use narrow band o2 sensors to weigh down ya bin liners