I have used fl studio Mobile for years on my phones or tablets this Roland zenbeats is another foundation start up app thanks much appreciated for this video
hi ,just wanna say you did an awesome job on review/tutorial and until this video that answered all my questions . That being said while i dabble in hiphop/trap im mostly a metal guitarist that cant make a beat almost of any type . But messing around for under 30 min its coming across pretty quick and from what i learned from your video and plus i learned from you that you can record vocals means i can record guitar and bass which is far out awesome ! Because unlike waveform or calkwalk or even garage band im just looking for something barebones basic especially in the guitar dept but not so much on the beat dept where i really need the help , Again thank you very much ,if there is a way to throw Roland your name out to them id be more than happy to hell as informative as you make it you should be sponsored by then . But till then thumbs up and subbed ,thanks
It has a most of what you said was missing when you unlock it, and when sending midi out you want to go to the track itself rather than the midi preferences. I didnt go in with Stagelight, but I got this and after unlocking it and watching some tutorial on Stagelight really really taught me a lot about this app. I have a lot of IOS Daws, Beatmaker 3, Cubasis, Auria Pro, gadget, Nanostudio 2, Beathawk, FL Studio, IMpc Pro, Caustic, Multitrack Daw and more, and I can say I dont regret unlocking ZenBeats, if definitely does things the other dont, I and Id say pretty much every IOS Daw does things the others dont. One Major thing I REALLY like, is when youre working in the clip view, which is the one youre showing, is when you hold down the record button, you can record your clips to the timeline just like in Ableton, that was something I completely overlooked until I watched the Stagelight tutorials on TH-cam. I dont know of any other IOS Daw that does that.
🤔 I'm considering it but I'm hearing that Auv3 is buggy in Zenbeats. Don't really feel comfortable spending ANY amount on something that won't work properly. What are your experiences?
I havent had any issues with auv3 as of yet I like the piano roll options such as being able to move notes up octaves or semitones easily with dedicated buttons Or shift notes off the grid with a knob
Thank you for checking this DAW out. I don’t I think I’m going to jump into it now but I hadn’t really seen a good review of it from someone who makes a similar kind of music. I’m also looking at how it connects with the PC. I already got Gadget so I don’t know.
I found ZenBeats on the way to buying FL Studio Mobile. But after reading all the problems in the reviews, ZenBeats for free had a much more attractive learning curve. That's how I found this video
I went from using zen beats on my phone it was OK then I tried zen beats on my older PC a windows 7 touch screen it ran grate I also used loop cloud 5 alongside zen beats dropping my samples from loop cloud 5 into zen beats was a nice work flow for me
I love this app, it’s a pretty full fledged daw in my opinion, there’s a lot of room for creation, I also love how informative you were for anyone unaware of how good this app is, also I’m constantly on the go and don’t have an iPad anymore so literally only use this on iPhone, so the fact you used your phone for the video is awesome. Thanks for your time and knowledge 👊 (oh and with the thumbnail photo, you definitely should’ve ended with a live performance on the mpk mini)
I'll agree having those extra features unlocked would be a nice upgrade from the free version still its enough in the free version to make a deceit song from my prospective thanks again for this video stay safe n stay well prayers with you n all on this channel
Great video, I was wondering what things were new or different with this app and you explained them thank you. It might be worth getting the unlocked version but here in the UK, it is free at the moment, so it would be worth checking to see if it's free where you live. Also a beat making tutorial would be useful thank you.
I notice I get another DAW once in a while bc each one does different things. On my PC and on my iPad. I might get this, if I do it will be like my 6th or 7th DAW lol. It looks kind of interesting. I notice you didn't have that much esteem for it though. Some ppl say that same thing, but I've seen a couple of rave reviews too. Guess it's up to me an individual to see where I'll fit in on the Like or Not Like scale, lol. Thx for the tips in here, thx for the demo.
I'd just use it for the sounds to create melodies with and then export/import to my main DAW on my Macbook. Can't say it would be good for making full compositions.
If I had it my way I would combine cubasis real daw-ness (is that a word)😁 with beatmaker 3 setup and imaschines library...and Zen's touch editing features.
Very familiar with Stagelight. Funny thing is I got Roland Zenbeats downloaded 3 days before my 29th birthday, so of course, I made sure to get these drums.
Bro ,as a customer how you feel that you have to buy the same app twice ? And none if your content gets saved or ported over to the rebrand aka new skin ?
@@locutz Some positives, some negatives. I had to make edifications on certain Stagelight sounds to make that instrumental come to life. That, plus I had to edit certain parts with Roland Zenbeats from other beat-making files I got, imported it into Stagelight long before New Year's Eve, kept the Zenbeats App on and deleted the Stagelight one. Good thing I got Serato to edit some sounds I made back at that time. Once I edit that with the sounds made on Roland Zenbeats, I'll be wavy.
I haven't seen one daw that has everything on iOS yet most of them lack sounds ...imaschine has great drums but only 4 tracks so then I have to stop in the middle of a idea and save to transfer when I get to studio on maschine mk3 ...beatmaker 3may be my fav but no sound support been out for awhile and very little sound packs available. I may unlock Korg gadget to get all of there sounds and see if you unlock Zen and wait 4 your opinion on full features and sounds
Good idea. Yeah BM3 definitely lacks in built in sounds but does pretty much everything I need. I wish it was available on the iPhone or at least a lite version of BM3 for iPhone. That's the only reason I even gave Zenbeats a look.
Caustic and Fruity Loops Mobile are the best DAW's ever made. You can import .sf2 soundfonts to Caustic and have ANY instrument you want. No need for a perfect app that has the sound you want.
Now MIDI Out, a lot of what you said in the Unlock version 15 $. It has native auto support for the Roli Lightpad Blocs..I love using Zenbeats on iPhone and Lightpad: try it it's a breeze. I'm leaving using Cubasis, NS2 and BM3 at this moment: very happy ZB can do it all. Cheers
I tried it. It wasn't intuitive at all. Went over drum sets. Couldn't find an entire drum set I like. I am not sure if you can make your own drum set. It doesn't come with sounds I want to use.
App is not live friendly. No way to mute the automations . Step squencer, there is no way to pick the notes in groups to delete them or copy them. On ipad buttons on the top are so small . They need to fix these issues i guess . This app meeds to be improved . It s something we need
My issues are it’s to much work trying to learn the program. That takes away from the creative process. BM3 just needs to enhance their live instrumentation for me and it’s a wrap.
If you save your songs to the Cloud, you can open them from wherever Zenbeats is installed. Right now they support GDrive and One Drive. That´s an insane selling point!
I can't click with that app, I've tried it, was on the beta and left it. I wouldn't pull the trigger fam. NS2 being universal now I think is better investment for iphone if you don't already have it. Dope video tho
That's like the third recommendation I've gotten today for NS2. I may have to check that out. I saw it months back but didn't invest in it. I really wished Intua could provide at least a BM3 Lite version for iPhone. With basic controls and that famous sample editor.
@@BrandonRico yeah it's definitely better and with the internal synth and your playing skills I think it's a good match. I don't like NS2 pad bank section tho, It's missing a lot in my opinion but we'll worth the money for the overall app. As for BM3 iPhone well 👀👀.
Good info, were you able to work with akai mpk? Mine said it required too much power plugged into iPad. Wanted badly to use with that. I noticed u had it hooked up on this video’s main pic.
Thanks and yup the akai works fine for me. I just use the original camera Connection kit. If you need more power just plug in another power source like a battery Bank or simply a wall charger.
@@quietlife40 bro, you need to buy the Apple camera adapter. Make sure you get one that has both USB & Lightning in & Lightning out. You plug your Akai into the USB, plug a power cord into the Lightning, then plug the whole thing into your iPod. You can even plug all your midi controllers into a powered USB hub, plug the USB hub into the camera adapter, then plug the adapter into your phone. Boom. Instant studio.
The only app that has a hardware sound is iMPC pro 2 , it doesn’t have a compressed sound its raw , sharp punching above its weight class giving you actual MPC sound. GarageBand is close but nothing beats iMPC because akai gave the developers the actual mpc software and told them to make an app out of it .there are other apps with better workflow but they can’t top iMPC pro 2 , I’ve tried almost everything even if you take the sound packs from iMPC they wont hit has hard but if you take soundpacks from other apps and put it into iMPC they hir harder . Artist used my beats from iMPC pro 2 and thought I used an actual mpc because they know I own a mpc live 2 . I use the app because they sound the same and I made a lot of beats in the car traveling from Nashville to Atlanta or Miami .
ROLAND : SINTESYZER : ZENBEATS : NEW ; GERAÇÃO ; PROGRAMMING : IMPUT : MUSICAL - DIGITAL : SOM - DIGITAL : COMPUTER : PROGRAMAS : MUSICAL - DIGITAL : TELA : MAIOR : GRÁFICS : DIGITAIS : ( M.I.D.I. ) : SOFT- WARE ; PROGRAMMING : MUSICAL : DIGITAL : i O.S. ; ROLAND :OPERACIONAL ; NEW - GERAÇÃO : PROGRAMAS : COMPUTER ; TOP : PROGRAMMING : MUSICAL : DIGITAL : ROLAND : JAPAN : 2023 .
In short no ,I've dealt with these guys before they was stagelight and it sucked pig farts ,for a daw that's been around they lack certain major basic features for eg how can you not make note repeat hi hats easy ? Come on fam
Lol I definitely feel that. I feel they half stepped on alot but I'll just use what I can. Play on the strengths of the features and leave all the weakest things alone 🤷🏾♂️
@@highstyleproductions5112 been with them since version 1.2 of stagelight Roland backing or not I've had it with those guys, i tried to support them but no more .
Locutz M lol I get it that’s how I am with BM3 I’m tired of baby updates NanoStudio is the best thing for me but it’s not complete yet because there are no audio tracks but I can use auria for vocals until Nano gets it... In the forums Matt made it clear he wanted to add Nano to the iPhone before adding audio tracks he did that now I’m hoping the next update is the audio tracks update...
I have used fl studio Mobile for years on my phones or tablets this Roland zenbeats is another foundation start up app thanks much appreciated for this video
hi ,just wanna say you did an awesome job on review/tutorial and until this video that answered all my questions . That being said while i dabble in hiphop/trap im mostly a metal guitarist that cant make a beat almost of any type . But messing around for under 30 min its coming across pretty quick and from what i learned from your video and plus i learned from you that you can record vocals means i can record guitar and bass which is far out awesome ! Because unlike waveform or calkwalk or even garage band im just looking for something barebones basic especially in the guitar dept but not so much on the beat dept where i really need the help , Again thank you very much ,if there is a way to throw Roland your name out to them id be more than happy to hell as informative as you make it you should be sponsored by then . But till then thumbs up and subbed ,thanks
It has a most of what you said was missing when you unlock it, and when sending midi out you want to go to the track itself rather than the midi preferences. I didnt go in with Stagelight, but I got this and after unlocking it and watching some tutorial on Stagelight really really taught me a lot about this app. I have a lot of IOS Daws, Beatmaker 3, Cubasis, Auria Pro, gadget, Nanostudio 2, Beathawk, FL Studio, IMpc Pro, Caustic, Multitrack Daw and more, and I can say I dont regret unlocking ZenBeats, if definitely does things the other dont, I and Id say pretty much every IOS Daw does things the others dont.
One Major thing I REALLY like, is when youre working in the clip view, which is the one youre showing, is when you hold down the record button, you can record your clips to the timeline just like in Ableton, that was something I completely overlooked until I watched the Stagelight tutorials on TH-cam. I dont know of any other IOS Daw that does that.
+Jon Lindsey thanks so much for the insight fam! I may be reconsidering unlocking Zenbeats. So far the free version has been decent.
Big shout out to you been using this for an hour and it's highly underrated
An AX-synth at the back is real cool isn't it!!!
Definitely get the paid version fam
The ability to use auv3s alone is worth it
I’m using it as much as BM3 at the moment
🤔 I'm considering it but I'm hearing that Auv3 is buggy in Zenbeats. Don't really feel comfortable spending ANY amount on something that won't work properly. What are your experiences?
I havent had any issues with auv3 as of yet
I like the piano roll options such as being able to move notes up octaves or semitones easily with dedicated buttons
Or shift notes off the grid with a knob
I still not convinced that's ground breaking enough for me to pay for the other inconveniences
Thank you for checking this DAW out. I don’t I think I’m going to jump into it now but I hadn’t really seen a good review of it from someone who makes a similar kind of music. I’m also looking at how it connects with the PC. I already got Gadget so I don’t know.
I found ZenBeats on the way to buying FL Studio Mobile. But after reading all the problems in the reviews, ZenBeats for free had a much more attractive learning curve. That's how I found this video
Hope this was help to you fam
I went from using zen beats on my phone it was OK then I tried zen beats on my older PC a windows 7 touch screen it ran grate I also used loop cloud 5 alongside zen beats dropping my samples from loop cloud 5 into zen beats was a nice work flow for me
Love your video man so much in depth I have a question do you think if I make beats on this can I upload them to Pioneer rekordbox DJ?
I love this app, it’s a pretty full fledged daw in my opinion, there’s a lot of room for creation, I also love how informative you were for anyone unaware of how good this app is, also I’m constantly on the go and don’t have an iPad anymore so literally only use this on iPhone, so the fact you used your phone for the video is awesome. Thanks for your time and knowledge 👊 (oh and with the thumbnail photo, you definitely should’ve ended with a live performance on the mpk mini)
I'll agree having those extra features unlocked would be a nice upgrade from the free version still its enough in the free version to make a deceit song from my prospective thanks again for this video stay safe n stay well prayers with you n all on this channel
Get the Ultimate version, Bro! Nice review, very informative! Thank you!
I'm def gonna dive deeper and review in the very near future. stay tuned
Great video, I was wondering what things were new or different with this app and you explained them thank you. It might be worth getting the unlocked version but here in the UK, it is free at the moment, so it would be worth checking to see if it's free where you live. Also a beat making tutorial would be useful thank you.
I notice I get another DAW once in a while bc each one does different things. On my PC and on my iPad. I might get this, if I do it will be like my 6th or 7th DAW lol. It looks kind of interesting. I notice you didn't have that much esteem for it though. Some ppl say that same thing, but I've seen a couple of rave reviews too. Guess it's up to me an individual to see where I'll fit in on the Like or Not Like scale, lol. Thx for the tips in here, thx for the demo.
Infomative and well put together video, better than most of what's out there, thank you!
Master p son
Thanks to this video, I have beats on soundcloud❤
I'd just use it for the sounds to create melodies with and then export/import to my main DAW on my Macbook. Can't say it would be good for making full compositions.
Probably the ideal use case
If I had it my way I would combine cubasis real daw-ness (is that a word)😁 with beatmaker 3 setup and imaschines library...and Zen's touch editing features.
Sounds like the perfect Touch DAW to me 🤷🏾♂️
Very familiar with Stagelight. Funny thing is I got Roland Zenbeats downloaded 3 days before my 29th birthday, so of course, I made sure to get these drums.
Bro ,as a customer how you feel that you have to buy the same app twice ? And none if your content gets saved or ported over to the rebrand aka new skin ?
@@locutz Some positives, some negatives. I had to make edifications on certain Stagelight sounds to make that instrumental come to life. That, plus I had to edit certain parts with Roland Zenbeats from other beat-making files I got, imported it into Stagelight long before New Year's Eve, kept the Zenbeats App on and deleted the Stagelight one.
Good thing I got Serato to edit some sounds I made back at that time. Once I edit that with the sounds made on Roland Zenbeats, I'll be wavy.
Go for it we need. Some. Help
I got an adapter for 4 bucks that lets me connect a USB controller.....
Looks like someone at Roland is listening to you. They just released an update to this app for Midi Out. Can’t wait to hear what you do bro ✌🏽
+Micah Logan 🤔🙏🏾 thanks for the heads up fam 💪🏾
You have Bluetooth just cut on your air then select it from the input and out drop boxes
I haven't seen one daw that has everything on iOS yet most of them lack sounds ...imaschine has great drums but only 4 tracks so then I have to stop in the middle of a idea and save to transfer when I get to studio on maschine mk3 ...beatmaker 3may be my fav but no sound support been out for awhile and very little sound packs available.
I may unlock Korg gadget to get all of there sounds and see if you unlock Zen and wait 4 your opinion on full features and sounds
Good idea. Yeah BM3 definitely lacks in built in sounds but does pretty much everything I need. I wish it was available on the iPhone or at least a lite version of BM3 for iPhone. That's the only reason I even gave Zenbeats a look.
BrandonRico Simpson maaan BM3 on iPhone would be game changer!!!
For sure!!
Try NanoStudio 2. It’s probably the best iOS DAW with the best synthesizer built in.
Caustic and Fruity Loops Mobile are the best DAW's ever made. You can import .sf2 soundfonts to Caustic and have ANY instrument you want. No need for a perfect app that has the sound you want.
Brandon waiting for your full tutorial of this app in compare to BM3.
Will it allow the import of loops/samples from my paid for library ?.
Shalom my brother, there is a midi out, It comes with the paid version.
🤔 cool thanks for letting me know fam 🙏🏾
The Windows free version also has MIDI out settings.
Now MIDI Out, a lot of what you said in the Unlock version 15 $. It has native auto support for the Roli Lightpad Blocs..I love using Zenbeats on iPhone and Lightpad: try it it's a breeze. I'm leaving using Cubasis, NS2 and BM3 at this moment: very happy ZB can do it all. Cheers
Thanks for the feedback im definitely plan to revisit SOON. STAY TUNED.
@@BrandonRico Cool. Hope to see you made usual great session with it and Lightpad too. Love it. Keep up man
Cool. Hope to see you made usual great session with it and Lightpad too. Love it. Keep up man
Yes this should be fun
What do you think of this app with the new v3 update? I see I can use other apps in this now on the iPad.
Just got this a few days ago
I tried it. It wasn't intuitive at all. Went over drum sets. Couldn't find an entire drum set I like. I am not sure if you can make your own drum set. It doesn't come with sounds I want to use.
App is not live friendly. No way to mute the automations . Step squencer, there is no way to pick the notes in groups to delete them or copy them. On ipad buttons on the top are so small . They need to fix these issues i guess . This app meeds to be improved . It s something we need
I noticed that.. 🤔 good points
A lot of these apps don't have midi out 2 midi up to a hardware gear. What a bummer. Short-sighted decision...
My issues are it’s to much work trying to learn the program. That takes away from the creative process. BM3 just needs to enhance their live instrumentation for me and it’s a wrap.
Just like any instrument or software, u gotta learn that thing 💪🏾 but I do agree on the BM3 enhancements
I am not sure what part of it is better than FLM or Cubasis. I figured I will be better of whith those two.
You have real daw punch in on vocals also
Thanks for this video. Question? Can you share files between devices? Phone to IPad to DAW? How are the files saved as?
If you save your songs to the Cloud, you can open them from wherever Zenbeats is installed. Right now they support GDrive and One Drive. That´s an insane selling point!
I can't click with that app, I've tried it, was on the beta and left it. I wouldn't pull the trigger fam. NS2 being universal now I think is better investment for iphone if you don't already have it. Dope video tho
That's like the third recommendation I've gotten today for NS2. I may have to check that out. I saw it months back but didn't invest in it. I really wished Intua could provide at least a BM3 Lite version for iPhone. With basic controls and that famous sample editor.
@@BrandonRico yeah it's definitely better and with the internal synth and your playing skills I think it's a good match. I don't like NS2 pad bank section tho, It's missing a lot in my opinion but we'll worth the money for the overall app. As for BM3 iPhone well 👀👀.
It would be a game changer no doubt if BM3 hits pocket status 👀📲
Good info, were you able to work with akai mpk? Mine said it required too much power plugged into iPad. Wanted badly to use with that. I noticed u had it hooked up on this video’s main pic.
Thanks and yup the akai works fine for me. I just use the original camera Connection kit. If you need more power just plug in another power source like a battery Bank or simply a wall charger.
BrandonRico Simpson ahhh thank u
@@quietlife40 bro, you need to buy the Apple camera adapter. Make sure you get one that has both USB & Lightning in & Lightning out.
You plug your Akai into the USB, plug a power cord into the Lightning, then plug the whole thing into your iPod.
You can even plug all your midi controllers into a powered USB hub, plug the USB hub into the camera adapter, then plug the adapter into your phone.
Boom.
Instant studio.
The only app that has a hardware sound is iMPC pro 2 , it doesn’t have a compressed sound its raw , sharp punching above its weight class giving you actual MPC sound. GarageBand is close but nothing beats iMPC because akai gave the developers the actual mpc software and told them to make an app out of it .there are other apps with better workflow but they can’t top iMPC pro 2 , I’ve tried almost everything even if you take the sound packs from iMPC they wont hit has hard but if you take soundpacks from other apps and put it into iMPC they hir harder . Artist used my beats from iMPC pro 2 and thought I used an actual mpc because they know I own a mpc live 2 . I use the app because they sound the same and I made a lot of beats in the car traveling from Nashville to Atlanta or Miami .
The paid version ($14.99) is free at the moment.
I got a free version yesterday, the next tier to Unlock PlugIn/VST is $50 (and then you have the Unlimited at $150) Are we seeing the same? Thanks!
Marcelo Franceschini yes we are seeing the same. The V1 unlock is free. This gives you more instruments including Sampleverse and support for AUv3.
Nice!
7:45 first sounds, save your sleeping till later!
bm3 and roland should collab
Would be dope but I doubt that would ever happen
@@BrandonRico I just like that drag feature for the hats. Would be nice in bm3
I'd say fl studio mobile is way better
ROLAND : SINTESYZER :
ZENBEATS : NEW ; GERAÇÃO ; PROGRAMMING : IMPUT : MUSICAL - DIGITAL : SOM -
DIGITAL : COMPUTER :
PROGRAMAS : MUSICAL -
DIGITAL : TELA : MAIOR :
GRÁFICS : DIGITAIS :
( M.I.D.I. ) : SOFT- WARE ;
PROGRAMMING : MUSICAL : DIGITAL : i O.S. ;
ROLAND :OPERACIONAL ;
NEW - GERAÇÃO :
PROGRAMAS : COMPUTER ; TOP : PROGRAMMING : MUSICAL : DIGITAL :
ROLAND : JAPAN :
2023 .
In short no ,I've dealt with these guys before they was stagelight and it sucked pig farts ,for a daw that's been around they lack certain major basic features for eg how can you not make note repeat hi hats easy ? Come on fam
Lol I definitely feel that. I feel they half stepped on alot but I'll just use what I can. Play on the strengths of the features and leave all the weakest things alone 🤷🏾♂️
If I have to leave a daw.to do simple things like that then why have it at all ? I only bought it cause Timbaland was giving us some of his sounds .
They are also being backed by Roland now just report bugs I’ve had it for about a month now I’ve seen 3 updates so far
@@highstyleproductions5112 been with them since version 1.2 of stagelight Roland backing or not I've had it with those guys, i tried to support them but no more .
Locutz M lol I get it that’s how I am with BM3 I’m tired of baby updates NanoStudio is the best thing for me but it’s not complete yet because there are no audio tracks but I can use auria for vocals until Nano gets it... In the forums Matt made it clear he wanted to add Nano to the iPhone before adding audio tracks he did that now I’m hoping the next update is the audio tracks update...
Yo my man unlock it pay for it and you will get more views
Don’t waist your time on this.Just saying.
Reasons please. Did you buy it? What do think ? 👀😫