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"The tiger better not be a fighting type" actually killed me Lmao
But he sure as heck looks like one.
I feel like the whole "heel" thing was just an excuse to include a very Fighting type coded evo for Litten without pissing off the fans. Like, *why* did it have to be a wrestler? There was *literally* no indication of that motif anywhere else in that family, so it just feels slapped on. Incineroar would be a lot better if Torracat was also bipedal wrestler who was training to be a champ like Incineroar with his belt.
Sure, Delphox and Meowscarada are bipedal furrybait, but the middle stages at least let you know what to expect and make the progression feel more natural.
@@Jw87563nobody likes delphox lmao, every furry sticks with Braixen cause she's way cuter
@FranXiT Sure, but at least you _knew_ that was what you were going to get. That was my point. Incineroar really doesn't fit next to Torracat and Litten. He could have been another type like Electric/Dark or Fighting/Dark and either be his own stand alone mon or the final stage of a different family.
@@FranXiTwhy are you acting like nobody likes delphox when there are people who clearly likes it?
I can see it being a fire normal type
I loved how gen 7 released trailers. Kept the hype going from May until November. Gen 8 and 9 has been super slow, and It made me not care as much for the release.
I feel like they were also able to save a lot of surprises for the actual game without spoiling. Though, I feel like the trailers that were less than a minute long and only revealed one Pokémon, like with Salndit and Turtanator, they could’ve just been bundled with some others. But for sure, such a hype season!
Same, honestly I don't like it when they don't show me enough reasons to buy the game or not, contrary to popular opinion
Yeah, but they dont needed to reveal ALL the pokemons
I kinda feel the opposite. I liked how S/M had constant trailers up till release, but there wasn’t much to discover in game by release.
Small monthly trailers definitely made SwSh and SV feel super slow to release, but I had a ton of fun finding the ~70 new Pokémon that weren’t shown before the release.
@@henryfromplegia5194 it really feel like going to the game and find surprises.
Sun and moon spoiled everything it had
The Alola starters are like my favourite starter trio, weird to think they had such a story up to their official reveal
I think their first evolutions all work well together. It was just a solid group and everyone liked one or the other pretty equally. And I do love how the final forms followed things up!
I agree with this. Definitely the best
“Such a story”? Nothing happened lol
My favorite trio too
then you have no taste
I was so hyperfixated on Rowlet once I saw Decidueye I was so sold
I do love Incineroar and Primarina too
Absolutely love how SPHERICAL Rowlet is!
@@GatorEX he was and still is an adorable boi
Decidueye the best
@@GatorEX the roundest goodest boye
I remember praying so hard for Primarina to be real. Still my favorite Pokemon to this day.
I do like that they did something unexpected with Primarina and really the whole evolution line. A different body type than other starters. Also, I really like Sound based Pokémon, so Primarina is perfect.
I love seals and it was the first starter to have the fairy type. I picked him twice for my Moon and Ultra Sun play through
@@GatorEX very unique sound based mon too
I absolutely adore! Primarina they’re probably my favorite starter
Funny how I think Primarina is one of the baddest Pokémon for me. I really hate it and think it’s a disgrace.
The Masuda story sounds so cool. It's always nice to learn some history for gen 7 since it's the only gen I missed haha.
It’s my favorite part of the whole thing, lol. The fact an English speaking fan just happened to be in Japan while he was doing a signing and then thinking to draw the starters, it’s all so perfect.
Primarina is such an underrated starter. This is exactly why it's my favorite starter ❤
I feel like if I played sm I would have latched onto Primarina but Incineroar stole my heart
@@BLazeWigglytuff I felt the exact same way. Originally I was on team rowlet, but then I saw the final evolution. I immediately said, "I'm picking primarina"
I love this trio 🍃 🔥 💧
Agreed, and Primarina's my favorite Starter Pokémon as well 💙
It’s such a pretty Pokémon, I love it. It’s my favorite water starter easily. Although I’ll admit, it took me until USUM to grow to like it, wasn’t crazy about it from the start
"rowlet, litten and popplio immediately captured the hearts and imaginations of fans." i remember popplio being so extremely bullied when he got first revealed i had a blood boiling hatred for rowlet for years because it'd always be rowlet fans that bullied popplio the most. does anyone remember the popplio defense squad because of the bullying?
Damn bro it’s not that serious 😭
@@Libra-_- literally
And Popplio and its evos are ugly anyway
@@gaius5901 cringe opinion
YESSS i literally remember having to defend popplio with my life from my friends 😭😭It was such a cute pokemon too people r just weird
@@gaius5901t's not that bad I know people can have opinions but yours is way too weird because popplio had an amazing design and I can think of other starters with worse evolution lines than popplio
Using Incineroar's belt to boil water though
They were cooking fr 🔥
Concept artists had a lot of fun I'm sure, lol
where is Popplio staring at in that part of the concept art tho
I remember the brain-shattering realization when Mallow was revealed, and linked back to the Incineroar concept art. Truly astounding. After not playing gen 4/5 and coming back knowing nothing for gen 6, I stay tuned for all the Gen 7 trailers. It was a fun time to be a Pokemon Fan. Great video ❤
Sun and Moons hypes season was absolutely unmatched, loved the build up and the Gen as a whole
definitely feel the same, from the first teaser to the release it felt like we were learning something new each week
only downside is that when the final games came out, i felt like i already knew everything and seen every mon already
And USUM made it way better with Rainbow Rocket post game and the UB s wormholes worlds , the Mantine surfing and the photo studio ( good times abusing Hiker Dave head on meme photo jokes 🤣 )
I’ll never understand the hate on primarina. It’s such a beautiful starter final evo and honestly just one of my favorite modern Pokémon designs
It’s just ugly and gay af sorry don’t want my male popplio evolving into a gay siren seal.
i loved primarina in sun and moon, one of my fav starters of all time
Same, I always loved Popplio and it's evolutions more than most people, and I think it's one of the more underrated starter Pokemon out there. It's evolutions are also quite beautiful, and I think they deserve more love and appreciation than they get
definitely better than Inteleon and Quaquaval
@@yungjose3369you can say that something looks good without comparing it to other pokemon, you know that, right?
I was SO happy Primarina was confirmed real. I LOVED the design in the concept art and was elated when it happened. I ended up nicknaming mine Entermaid based off of the fake names going around
I called decided on Rowlett from the beginning. But after seeing Decidueye not only did keep Rowlett as my starter, I even named it Kenny. Kind of Ironic since it's final form is part ghost!
Yep, I loved Rowlett when I first saw it and like Decidueye more than other fan made concepts I saw. So happy with how it turned out!
"Oh my god they killed Kenny!"
"You Bastards!"
This story is so Magical, I really miss this gen. It's amazing to see this video at my birthday.
Yep, loved looking back on it and happy birthday! 🎉
Happy birthday🥳🎉
@@GatorEX THX
@@GalaxyVoid_Dragon THX
The way Incineroar uses grappling wrestling moves while igniting it’s opponent at the same time in the concept art looks so cool. It’s a shame Ash’s Incineroar barely battled
And braining Pikachu with the announcer's table. They were really giving him heel rep.
I legitimately forgot he torrocat evolved into incineroar until you mentioned it.
2016 man... Sun and Moon still feel so new to me
Decidueye is so amazing. The wing bow concept and hood tassle is so unique. As well as the feather on top like Robinhood.
Nah
@@jqsdbwudhsjdk4284 Yah
Yea. And then the stats came out...
Bald decidueye in the concept art is cursed
I loved how they released information for gen 7
Definitely was such a cool lead up to the games release. A fun summer, indeed!
I miss those days where we actually got a decent amount of trailers to hype us up as we got closer to release day. Nowadays, we barely get anything.
I wish we hadn't gotten quite so much, but the structure for the reveals n' stuff was definitely good.
Gen 7 had really cool reveals but I hate how they revealed almost everything about the game by the time of it's release. There was not much left to discover on your own
I personally feel like they revealed too much. I thought their would be so much more to the game but they really did show everything in the trailer. Probably my fault for having too high expectations though
This gen was so weird, like it genuinely felt more like a fever dream since GameFreak had no compact way for advertisement aside from sneaks, on top of a 180 from Mega Evolution and everything else prior to the Alola region
I loved how Joe Merrick from serebii was saying it’s fake 😂😂
Sun and Moon’s hype buildup was the best since I first started playing these games back in Diamond and Pearl. They always teased stuff (although probably a little too much at times), but they really kept us excited. Scarlet and Violet’s buildup was very minimal and made me forget about the games sometimes, although I’m glad they didn’t basically tell us everything about the games, I think they should’ve given us some more news more often.
Teased? You mean straight up spoiled.
Interesting thing to note is how Decidueye and Primarina's final render appear are shown off in their concept art, yet Incineroar has new art entirely. Perhaps they were going to go with the one facing forward, but decided to redo the render instead.
Feels so nostalgic to see this again. I think it's about this time that I got really into Pokemon, more than I already was lol. Those were good times.
I remembered what sealed the deal was Mallos's reveal. What I didn't know about is Masuda signing fanart before it officially revealed.
I called that they were real from the moment they were shown 😏
I was like maybe 50% when I first saw them, but Mallow was the turning point. She was the key.
I saw Incineroar and was hoping so much for it to be real and be a Fire Dark type! I was so happy when I turned out to be right! And he ended up with such wholesome dex entries ♡
Junichi Masuda casually doing a signing event only to see someone got the starter designs early
Pree-marina, like a primadonna, the main female singer in an opera. Anyway nice vid
I remember all this going down very well. Good times. Probably the last time I really enjoyed something pokemon related to a high degree. And that includes sun and moon themselves after they actually released...
Okay I forgot about Masada signing the starter artwork. I forgot that part was like really really cool and you got to imagine like how expensive that that could sell for if that person wasn't going to frame it above their front door and have it be their most treasured possession ever
Sun and Moon had definitely the BEST hype season by far
I remember when they were revealed I was at a school assembly and they pulled up TH-cam and the trio was on the front page. I was extremely excited to get home that day.
Decidueye was just too good for us
The Alolan starters are really the only trio that I really love all 3 aside from the Sinnoh starters. Decidueye is easily one of my favorite Pokémon of all time, Incineroar is a very fun Pokémon to use in both the games and in smash, and Primarina is beautiful with an elegant design.
I remember when this all happened. And when malo was announced, I was convinced it was real. The debate afterwards was over the typings. I didn't believe the people who said decidueye's flying would change. And I was desperately hoping the rumors were true that incinroar wasn't the fighting typing it so clearly looked like it had to be to me.
I remember hoping this would be fake, because I, like many people, thought Incinaroar would be fire fighting. But looking back, this was a wild ride and I wish something similar would happen
It was “robin-Hoot” not root 😂
I was there for all of that. I vividly remember arguing with someone who said that girl wasn't Mallow and the design was basic enough it could be any girl with a flower in her hair, despite the hair being very obviously the exact same style. The cope was incredible. All cause nobody wanted another fire fighting type.
i was here for that and we were all dissapointed when the fire starter cat finally stood up on its two legs LMAO
Incineroar is my favorite Pokemon!
lmao the whiplash from the thumbnail. I'm literally re-playing Sun and Moon and am using both Litten and Rowlet
Dang. What was I doing in the fandom during this time? It’s like a fireworks display happened while I was facing the wrong way
dang that old school tumblr logo omg
I’ve only used Tumblr like once for a school project, so I wouldn’t know 😂
Dartrix's feathers also had the same mark as Decidueye's, which was also something that confirmed them back in the day.
i remember being 9 or 10 years old, freaking out about the concept art while watching youtubers talk about it. Upon the reveal of Dartrix, Brione,and Torracat, I screamed about how good they are. Nowadays Pokemon game releases don't feel as interesting as Sun and Moon. For scarlet and violet i saw barely any promo videos about new Pokemon, Paldean forms, etc. :(
Wow, that was really cool! Alola region will always be my favorite games and series! I really wish we could revisit it but it will probably take 20 years to do so since we're only up to Diamond and Pearl right now
7 years
The best part of the Pokémon Sun/moon buildup was a single Instagram account that kept posting the alolan exeggutor neck until the release date
I think this was also the first time gamefreak shared the final evolutions of the starters in a trailer.
Gen 7 was really fun. I felt most of my classmates and friends lost interest of pokemon around late gen 5. But when sun and moon was coming out, everyone was talking about it. I remember being excited for it even though I didn't have a 3ds at the time. But eventually got ultra sun and end up loving gen 7
Yet everyone now hates gen 7 and i see why and it has an ugly ass starter trio with Decidueye being an exception.
I remember it like it was yesterday. The hype leading into Sun and Moon took place during the peak of the Poketube era.
Man Gen 5 and Gen 7 is where I was in hiatus from Pokémon and yet at that time these games really skyrocketed I’m glad I have these games now but wish it were around the time it started 😢
My fan art of a fake Litten evolution was printed onto fake Pokemon cards. I'm not kidding.
iirc, by the launch of sun and moon, the only pokemon not officialy revealed by trailers were the alolan geodude line, dewpider line, dhelmise, necrozma, and the mythicals
I still remember the day the starters were announced. My 14 year old self was so excited
If Ash's Rowlet have evolved into Dartrix and all the way into Decidueye in the first place back in Pokemon Sun and Moon Series before the Japanese writers wrote this episode " No Stone Unturned!" then it could have become the strongest flying type on Ash's team too even as a Grass/Ghost type after it evolved because Decidueye is awsome and everyone love it in Pokemon Scarlet and Violet games.
Everyone hated the raid though...
Throwback Thursday
I remember back in the day when this was happening people were convinced that the starters would have a psudo-split evolution line akin to Rockruff due to a magazine mistranslation. Still kinda wish that had been true.
Imagine how could it would be for a kid to fully evolve their starter only to find out their buddy who had chosen the same starter got a completely different final evo.
2:13 Dolphin? Dude was 6 years too early.
Just reading all the points of the link and I find the second to last one facinating. We got a sea Cucumber in 7, a snowmwn in 8, and a dolphin in 9.
Wonder if finizen was scrapped for later for some reason
I remember, my first Pokemon game was UltraSun. I immediately chose Litten as my starter, totally fell in love with it. Then, I eventually looked up its evolution and was so incredibly disappointed. I was fully planning on not evolving it into Incineroar and just keep it as Torracat, but after a bit, again, I just fell in love with Incineroar. Like, I was probably around 15 and stupid when I played it. I don't get how I didn't immediately like this wrestle Cat. Anyways, now Incineroar is one of, if not my definitive favorite Pokemon. Especially my own Incineroar. I still have him from my very first playthrough. Paid money to get him into Sword and Shield from the 3DS lol. He's very important to me. He specifically. And he's jolly, I just really think its adorable How this intimidating Fire/Dark Wrestler Cat is just happy and a slight goofball. I love him.
0:41 still wish the flame one would've been incineroar
Masudas chuckle was "someone's getting fired for this"
I was there on /vp/ when all these happened. I still remember anons refusing their authenticity and calling Mallow a generic Hawaiian girl. Then Mallow was revealed then the board went crazy.
Nowadays "generic Hawaiian girl" is a meme on /vp/. 😂
I remember spending weeks as a kid just looking through TH-cam video after TH-cam video just to get new news on the game. It was great!
Probably top 3 starter trio
Pokemom sm have a special place in my heart it was a simpler time back then and i enjoyed the "beef" people had about popplio or the nebby memes
This was such a fun time lol! Thanks for covering this, gave me a blast to the past 🎉
Pokemon Sun and Moon will forever be nostalgic to me and i am looking forward to their remakes in the future. I just recently Masuda hunted for shiny Bulbasaur in Pokemon Moon so I can transfer it to Scarlet once Home compatability is released.
hope for new ultra beast
Haha I totally remember following all of this in real time!! I was really mad at Litten’s final evo, I was so hoping it would be an awesome four legged tiger and ANYTHING but a fire fighting type. And of course it turned out to be a fire fighter… lol
It’s insane watching this now, remember being 12 when these were coming out, got so hyped with my 1 mate who also liked Pokémon 😂
1:30 yet if it was macho and masculine and muscular, nobody would’ve complained 🙄
I think it isn't actual complaints about Primarina but rather skepticism, since the final evolution goes out of its way to be very feminine to be real (especially considering that starters were about 75% male). Also people really wanted Ballio to be real because creepy clown.
JUNE 2016?! Holy crap, I'm old 😅
4:40 OMG! My fav starter (deciduye) was confirmed on my birthday!!!!!!
2:09 When you think about it : Finizen should have been a 7th generation pokemon but he became a 9th generation pokemon!
Aloha was a great season/Gen 7 in Pokémon, including the games itself
I remember watching this all happen in real-time and the absolute shit storm that happened in people vehemently hating on Primarina, like how every generation has one starter that people overhate on in that really cringy way
I wasn't really decided on my starter for Alola until I saw Incineroar's exclusive Z-move, and its heel wrestler motif, which sold me on Litten. I'll likely pick the other 2 in a new game though
Incineroar and decidueye design goes hard
I new from the MOMENT I saw Rowlet that no matter what the other starter's where going to be I was set, that being said I hadn't been this excited about all starter selection since hoenn trio I really do love the Alola trio as well..
And then Incineroar had to go through it all over again with Smash Bros Ultimate.
I remember when this happened, will never forget that!
I cant tell u how happy i was when Litten was first revealed, like thevstarters wefe announced a day before my birthday lol
I remember thinking that these were too cool to be the actual starters, I’m so glad that they were
I was going through some heavy life stuff during the build up to Sun and Moon. Pretty much making me blind when I picked it up day 1.
Sun and moon. like you HAD to be there. it was the moment
0:33 that's just palafin but a midstage
Ah, Mallow
The "uncredibility debunker", I'm a fan of her design and concept of Cheff 👌
Can't tell if Decidueye's feathers look a hoodie or a weird overcoat
I was the guy who got annoyed from but also saw a lot of Giancarlo Parimango's "Pokemon Sun and Moon Countdown Videos"
I know we got Palafin but I wish we got the creepy Popplio's final evo.
Those were some nice days
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I think about this all the time, witnessing it was wild.
I remember with sword there was a thread that revealed stuff like rabbit and I first dismiss as fake then the game came out
"of course it's fake lol"
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People can fight me all they want but incineroar is my favorite starter Pokémon
I’ll say it rn, POKÉMON ULTRA SUN AND ULTRA MOON NEEDS TO COME TO SWITCH!!!!!!!!