What Do Scientologists Actually Believe?
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L. Ron Hubbard hungout with Alister Crowley. Not hard to figure out the rest..........
*Are* you the best person to recommend online security...?? Really??
I think simon just became a sepressive person, good luck!
Their creation myth is so ridiculous that they are the most honest money laundering organisation to date. No one believes the BS, even them.
@@rasalasblack are u suggesting xeno didn't use dc-8's 2 transport billions of people 2 earth 😄
In one of his books, Charles Manson claimed he went to a few Scientology meetings with a friend, but found it to be too bizarre for him. Stop and give that some time to sink in.
Yeah, if Charles Manson looks at you like you are crazy, there is serious concern there.
Hadn't heard that one ~ wow. But I have read that Aleister Crowley thought L. Ron Hubbard was bats*** crazy. Worth spending some time with that one, too. :o
That... Is extremely interesting...
Well yes but, Charlie wouldn't like or appreciate the Boy Scout Eagle Scout manual, oh except that part where it tells you how to g@ng r@pe cub scouts and blame it on scientologists lol
That's a complete lie, please stop spreading it. Charles Manson was rejected from Scientology, they considered him Type-III, that is, psychotic. It was in prison where he was taught Scientology by a fellow inmate.
This is so crazy it’s almost like it was invented by a science fiction writer!
It's amazing how many people don't realize this 😆
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A very average one at best.
And one of the science fiction novels was made into the movie "Battlefield Earth" staring John Travolta and released in 2000. Rotten Tomatoes gave it a 3%!!!
It was.
A friend of mine is a devout Scientologist. A few years before meeting her, I'd read "Dianetics" and couldn't believe anyone actually believed this stuff. She tried to get me to join but did finally desist when I told her I was happy in my faith. However, back about 20 years ago, she told me that she was saving up to take a course that would enable her to levitate and walk through walls (the cost at the time was about $18,000-$19,000). It all sounds like a huge money-making thing to me.
So can she levitate now? Does scientology have coupon codes and reviews of this course because I might be interested 😅
@@BlackandWhitecustoms 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Nope!
@@harrietharlow9929 that sucks 😅😂😅
yeah they will preach about self and when you want to learn any Thetan skills you will pay, and some are required learning i think up to level 4, then you can choose to pay or you're considered not committed to the church
I worked with a scientologist who wasted all his money on the studies or whatever he called it. I would ask him if I could borrow the study material he paid for , he told me it doesn't work that way. He also had an obvious physical birth defect that he was convinced he would cure with scientology. It was quite sad really, he was being taken advantage off
It's really rare when South Park understates something
My favorite part was coming all the way to earth to drop billions of people into our volcanoes ... AND then dropping a-bombs on them. In case they survived the lava, I guess?
You'd think Zenu would keep the genocide local and avoid the commute.
That’s why chef left cause he believes Scientology that’s why they did him like that at his episode 😂
I had a friend who lived in LA for a while. She told me about apartment complex owners having to be weary of renting to Scientologists because they're known to pull a scheme where one member moves in and behaves like a model tenant. That person then keeps their ears peeled for vacancies and will then notify the church, who will then send other members to move in, who get their foot in the door through the recommendations of the original "model tenant" and are provided glowing references by the church. The Scientologists will then methodically repeat this process one-by-one until they have a enough members in the building in order to take the property. All of these tenants will simultaneously stop paying their rent and the church will then move in with an offer to buy the building. The offer will be much lower than the value of the property, but it's more cost-effective to simply sell it than to evict all of the Scientologists.
Dirty pool, thetans... dirty pool!
That sounds like organized crime. Racketeering, I believe they call it.
classic property scam. not just scientology that does that.
Honestly, if that's true and it works. Then fair play to them!
@@iamanowl26 Hey guys! The Scientologist sent an owl.
Organized crime. The authorities need to deal with the “Church” of Scientology once and for all
It’s truly criminal that they haven’t been stripped of their tax exempt status
I have been long time pondering the Church of Cash, god is called Money Money, belief is "firm tax avoidance".
They shouldn't be. Their shit is no more absurd than the Abrahamic religions. They ALL should be stripped of their tax-exempt status if your logic is as such... which I'm fine with.
Why? They're as legitimate as any other religion.
American religious tax exemption laws are really loose in general. Easy tax dodging for people in power
@@Demmrir they are a criminal organization/cult.
The whole thing makes so much more sense once you find out the founder was a Science Fiction writer
I live by Clearwater FL, the biggest hub of Scientology in the US and when I moved here 20 years ago we would see them all walking in the hundreds with the same clothes and same backpacks. Had their own apartment complexes and busses. We called them worker ants and they looked like swarms around lunchtime. So wierd. And they own a ton of prime real estate all tax free
Same
I wonder about Scientology being that Clearwater their hub is in Florida, how they are perceived by the MAGA crowd and DeSantis. You would think these two groups are mortal enemies. Given Scientology's rather liberal official stance on issues like homosexuality, race, and especially abortions. Not only does Scientology not care about people getting abortions, they've forced people to get them.
I've never seen the MAGA mob, or DeSantis himself disparage Scientology. I guess it's reputation as being litigious scares them off from going anywhere near them.
Right now with the Danny Masterson trial Scientology is hanging on by a thread. All they need is for DeSantis to step foot in their sphere.
With DeSantis being a presidential candidate he gets secret Service protection now. But I would think that the typical average MAGA person would hate to have a Scientologist follow them around with their Scientologist shenanigans.
To sum it up: "Believe whatever you want, as long as you keep sending us money, and as long as you get your family and friends to do the same."
Just like the BLM movement.
This honestly sounds better than most religions… they ask you to believe in one thing and STILL ask for money.
Hmmmm
@@sundownsupper7409 Most major religions ask you to believe a thing because THEY believe that thing. They bring you something to believe in. They serve a purpose.
Scientology doesn't. Sure, they have the cover story (body thetans), the deep-cut sci-fi story (Xenu), and the religious book (a sc-fi novel combined with anti-psychology). They don't care if you believe any of it, mostly because they don't believe it either. Instead, they ONLY want the money and the loyalty.
There is no belief system here. None.
True that. But aint that the same psychology of all reglions and politics
You're actually not able to believe whatever you want. You can pretend to still be Christian or whatever other religion, but you'll get in trouble if you actually believe it.
What really makes me laugh on this whole subject is that their founder, L Ron Hubbard, a Science-Fiction author, once stated in one of his books: "The best way to control a population is to create a Religion...". That is exactly what he did, created a religion to control others.
That is untrue. The actual quote is: “I have always thought that there might be a lot of cash in starting a new religion.” And it was the novelist George Orwell who said it.
That's not what he said, and it's not a hard observation to make. The only reason Scientology ever became a religion was in an attempt to evade taxes.
It wasn't in a book, he just (allegedly) said it to a group of colleagues and science-fiction writers. One of them confirmed it, one denied it, and the others are either dead or refuse to elaborate.
@@fugazinemesis That's why they go after celebs..
@@ROBYNMARKOW I don't understand. Why would they 'go after' celebs?
I had hallucinations when I was a kid and our scientologist neighbors told my parents to stop seeing our psychiatrist because I was being contact by ghosts. Wild stuff. For anyone wondering, the ghosts seem to have lost interest in me.
As someone who has suffered from very real postpartum depression, I have a huge problem with any group telling people suffering from similar issues to diet and exercise and they'll be better. Chemical and hormone changes sometimes require more than a change of food or routine. It's all bs and dangerous and evil in my humble opinion.
@@conservativesavage1076 Exactly! I have bipolar disorder and that nonsense is just that, nonsense.
"The quickest way to make money is form a religion" Ron L Hubbard
They believe what a science fiction writer wrote to make a shit-ton of money. They believed and he got insanely rich. Not much more to tell, really.
So basically you just described ANY RELIGION out there...
@@Lexor888 Yup. Getting people to believe in any sky daddy means they will open their wallets and give every cent to the "cause". They will even destroy the fabric of society in order to appease the non-existent sky daddy. They also favor the "ends justifying the means" so that lying, cheating and stealing are perfectly fine if it is in support of the sky daddy fantasy.
@@Lexor888 Every religion was made up by a sci-fi writer as a get rich scheme?
done for a bet...
The bible was written by sexist oxen owners
the guys behind "south park" did an episode about scientology, and at the bottom of the screen, they had the caption, "this is what scientologists actually believe". cuz, you know, what with "south park" being so fantastically out-rageous and realistically impossible as each episode generally is, guess they wanted to make absolutely sure that people knew they weren't making it all up and that it was all true. which it is.
He had a screenshot from that episode in this very video.
@@Bluhbear yeah, i kind of made my comment before i got to that part. : )
Isaac Hayes got all pissy about it…
@@jaybee9269 yeah, i remember that. he quit doing the voice for Chef because of it.
That did that for the Mormon episode as well. Lol
What I, as a native Floridian, most begrudge is the Scientologist's overwhelming and nefarious takeover of my beloved Clearwater Beach. Though outsiders may know of it from Spring Break highlight reels, the rest of the year it was a laid-back beach with a gorgeous shoreline, and delicious local eateries right on the boardwalk. Now, it is a commercially-dominated expanse of hostile security and unfriendly elitists. And don't get me started on how they've corrupted the local police force and city council... truly threatening at times, frighteningly so..
First and Foremost, the purpose of any "church/religion" is to Control People.
Always has been since "MAN" invented religion 🥊🎱🎭$$$$$$
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I tried scientology when I was in California. I noticed the whole conformity when two people walked into the class looking like the double mint twin. The standing up and clapping to the nearest picture of L. Ron. The you must disassociate from your family. I started off just doing it, then I'd push some button. I packed my stuff up in one class and wanted to leave they tried to stop me. I powered past them. I walked toward home, some them followed me. Tried to convince me to go back to the class. Waited at my door. I made a joke to my girlfriend about not having a religion of my own, yet I have followers. Took a further walk and they followed. I started back home, they followed till we got a couple of block from my place. They said they'd check on me the next time I went to their build, they never checked on me or even spoke to me. A few weeks later I decided I'd had enough and quit them, then moved away.
When Simon said " A Sikh Scientologist..A Muslim Scientologist...a Christian Scientologist.... a Jewish Scientologist." I thought he was going to finish this with "Walked into a Bar." Lol.
If it was a Brain Blaze video, that'd be something in the range of possibilities
@@EclipseOverSalem I was about to say the same thing
@@justinyates1154 I was a bit sad it isn't
@@EclipseOverSalem Simon does tend to reuse ideas that worked well in the past, so we can always hope for an Epic Blaze on Scientology 😉
@@justinyates1154 every second word will be alledgedly
Those who want to hear more about what Scientology is actually like, I would highly recommend the podcast “Scientology: Fair Game” with Mike Rinder and Leah Remini. Mike was a high ranking Scientologist and Leah was one of their celebrities. They talk a lot about day to day life as practicing Scientologists and the hypocrisy between what the doctrines say to the public vs what is actually practiced. Scientologists are taught they are allowed to lie to anyone not in Scientology if it makes Scientology look better. So anything Scientology tells the public is dubious at best.
Oh yeeeaah like certain other way more full of shit religions totally don't do that all the time...
So it IS a cult…
Oh No Ross and Carrie also did a months long investigation where they joined Scientology and went through a bunch of their stuff then reported on it. It's a great podcast, and the series on Scientology is a particular highlight.
@@TheMrsSaito always has been.
I've watched them.
They'd lie about anything to make Scientology look bad.
No thanks.
I'll tell you a story if you have the time for it.
A friend of mine set himself up to rescue people from religious cults in the 1980's. His was not a non-profit organisation and he openly charged princely sums for his operations. He had been a victim of the Moonies himself and knew how easily a person can be enticed into such groups and how difficult it was to get out of them. He always told me that the one group he feared most was the Scientologists. He said that they were the most tenacious, the most vengeful and the most dangerous. And he dealt with all the cults, so I believe his words.
Wow! Is he still around?
Could it be that they hate psychologists because they teach you to think for yourself? 😱
😅
I once went with a Scientologist friend to their British headquarters in East Grinstead, outside London, to see what Scientology was all about. There was a huge mansion in the middle of a forest clearing, and inside were very elaborate rooms full of statues, paintings, chandeliers, expensive desks, chairs, sofas, etc, but it had a very sinister feel to it. I was half expecting one of the leather chairs to swivel round, and a villain stroking a white cat, saying "We've been expecting you. Mr Bond!"
Saint Hill. And behind all that opulence are Sea Org members beavering away looking to see who has money on account so they can sell them the horribly overpriced reprint of one of the many sets of Hubbard's bloviations, or the new piece of cheap plastic with a few ICs and resistors they call an e-meter for the ridiculously low price of a few thousand dollars. If they don't hawk enough shit then everybody is on beans and rice the next week..
@@nerdyali4154 Yes, Saint Hill. I'd forgotten the name of it, thanks.
Sounds like a place with lots of crawl spaces to hide cadavers and lecherous affairs.
@@nerdyali4154 …kinda sounds like an MLM/pyramid scheme, lol
DANGER!!!!! HELL IS REAL!!! WHERE WILL YOU GO WHEN YOU DIE?? WE CAN NOT HIDE OUR SINS FROM GOD. WE MUST REPENT AND PUT OUR FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST AS OUR LORD AND SAVIOR SO THAT WE MAY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE IN HEAVEN. Mark 1:15 ...The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
I was in Scientology for about 6 months. However, I'm bipolar. I quit taking my psych meds, and I got a bit crazy, and was kicked out. This was back in the '70s.
Count your blessings!
Wow, the only time somebody was too crazy to be a Scientologist, they should put you in a museum!
How did you get to crazy for them? And what did they expect??
Well, I’m a registered nurse for 34 years if you want to take your lithium or whatever they’re giving you OK but eat sensibly and get enough rest and don’t shovel everything these doctors give you down your mouth make informed decisions best regards from the state of Kentucky.
DANGER!!!!! HELL IS REAL!!! WHERE WILL YOU GO WHEN YOU DIE?? WE CAN NOT HIDE OUR SINS FROM GOD. WE MUST REPENT AND PUT OUR FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST AS OUR LORD AND SAVIOR SO THAT WE MAY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE IN HEAVEN. Mark 1:15 ...The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
I was in Scientology for over a decade. they have very interesting helpful classes which is why the get so many followers. I was pathologically shy and they helped with that. But as you have what they call "gains" and "wins", you keep wanting more. I finally got to the point where I realized that the cost of the next step was more stressful than the condition I was trying to handle so I quit.
Scientology is what a drunk person comes up with 2AM.
So to sum it up, basically “We support everyone regardless of background and follow your own moral code! …Unless we don’t like you and your moral code doesn’t align with ours”
So, like most religions?
But most religions don't have a "un-alive those who disagree" clause explicitly stated.
@@Skyline_NTR Well...
So, like Christianity.
Exactly! As long as you have cash!
I have only ever met one , what you might loosely call a ' normal/average ' scientologist, I did not know this at the start, it wasn't till we ended up at a BBQ & everyone who spoke to me was asking very odd questions about my beliefs, financial stability & if I was tired of the way things were run etc. The penny dropped when a guy got up to do a speech & ' welcomed new friends ', I had some Amway people try the same crap on me, the key give away is when someone who isn't your friend starts calling you that & laced with how much money & shiny things you want in your life. I was out of there so quick, luckily there was a bus on the corner & got on the 1st one to arrive & made my way home, I have never spoken to that person again, never trust a religion/cult that hides behind lies, nothing good will come of it.
Next time don’t go straight home… go somewhere crowded first and spend some time
@@heyhorinshi When I say straight home I mean catching the 1st bus that was going anywhere, but as all busses go to a train station & I could navigate my may home from there. I hadn't thought of being followed, but even if I was they would have struggled to keep up as till I found my home line even I had not much idea where I was.
In addition to being a nutty religion, it's also a pyramid scheme, and there's huge pressure to recruit new members.
@@heyhorinshi I don't think they'd follow a potential new recruit. They want people who suck that shit up willingly. "Really? How fascinating! You know I've been thinking exactly the same thing!". Someone with enough sense to GTFO isn't Scientologist material. They know better.
Still they absolutely have done much worse stuff to people, but those were people who ended up tangled in their web one way or another. Still BJW's "friend" is a bit of a cunt. Probably didn't think they were doing anything wrong, probably thought they were "helping" BJW. That's the brainwashing.
You said it ALMOST perfectly with your use of the word "nebulous".....I would venture that "black hole " may be more accurate! In 1978,I was 18,and there was a definite "push" on L.Ron Hubbard's book "Dianetics",newly out in paperback..The t.v. commercials were rampant and often.Being curious I bought a copy of the nearly 4" thick book and quickly realized I wasnt wasting any of my time on this garbage that made no sense.
As a dutch man. I am very upset that. The americans managed to make a truly dutch religion before us.
My parish is half way in my walk from home to work. I used to pick up prayer cards, because there was a Church of Scientology that handed out pamphlets. I would offer to trade them, like Pokémon. For some reason, they never took me up on the offer, and quit trying to talk to me...
You sir, are a Legend.
You're an absolute chaotic genius mate.
@@SnekVonSlonkthank you!
@@justinyates1154 thank you! I hope that I'm the good kind of legend
Nice! It's a lot faster than trying to convert them to Presbyterianism, I can assure you, because they will debate you on everything. I wish my church had prayer cards!
You know Simon is going easy on scientology when he says at the end he doesn't wanna get sued. The cult scientology has a tendency to sue anyone that disrespects their religion. When a "religion" talks about giving up your possessions to the church you can see what they're really interested in.
They also stalk.
“giving up your possessions to the church you can see what they're really interested in.”
Many biker gangs that exceed past a weekend hobby live by this moto.
It's overblown. There are plenty of exScientologists who explain their experiences and former beliefs. They won't sue because if they do, it'll get in the news, and then they'll get more bad publicity. Also, they'd lose.
In California, COS was declared to be a vexatious litigant.
@@abmindprof you're confusing Fair Game with a civil suit. If you think they won't harass you, kill your pets, and try to ruin you, you're scarily naive. They simply don't have the ability to sue everyone who speaks out against them at this point in civil court though - there are more former than current Scientologists, and the Masterson trial is really screwing them over, in addition to the massive damage done by Anonymous. If you want to really avoid getting sued though, just mention Miscaviage for about 25% of your piece - he's terrified of getting successfully served and having to testify. There are worse things than being sued.
Thankyou, been waiting on this one for awhile
Scientology is honestly terrifyingly I did a in depth research into it for a school paper and it really is scary. It's a cult not a religion and the way it exists in the open is really scary. While doing research it was really scary when finding research and evidence the amount of people that won't say anything because they fear for their life. It's a scary world and I can only hope this does get sorted out at some point. Great video as always, your content is always top notch.
Soo let me get this... you did research on scientology and can't even explain a pebble of their beliefs an what not?
Is also a spaghetti religion 💀
@@rasto-rastoyup. Exactly. This dude typed a whole paragraph and aid a load of nothing.
Religions are also cults.
Was it scary?
The best part of Scientology is that Hubert said during an interview that he wanted to form a cult just to see how many people he could dope into it.
Well, Simon, it was nice to know you.
He should do a video on the Clintons before the end.
😆😆😂
Just as the video started, TH-cam locked up, and Simon froze in place. I thought “OH SHIT”!
Props for using the Flying Spaghetti Monster in the video!! Informative as always!
I was expecting the word "allegedly" to get dropped way more that twice. 😆
A very dangerous cult. Fortunately it seems to be in massive decline globally.
I am more concerned about it's galactic growth !
@@agateplanet 🤣🤣🤣😁
If only all religions declined as quickly
Sure, a bunch of bored rich actors with funny hats are really dangerous, but Islam is just okelee dokelee.
About 20,000 members worldwide, but they do have about 2 billion dollars in liquid assets and a large real estate portfolio, so they aren't vanishing anytime soon, unfortunately.
I never knew Simon was such a talented tapdancer.
Oh. You maybe missed his video on guns in America. He did a great job with that dynamite topic.
You had me in the first half ngl 😂😂😂😂😂
NordVPN. Stopping Tom Cruise from jumping on your couch.
No discussion of Scientology is complete without a discussion of Operation Snow White, worth a video in and of itself.
Now I’m curious. What is that?
....from/for the playbook of the tapir riders? Note, when it was pointed out to one religion that horses definitely weren't in North America when their founding documents claimed them to be, it didn't matter...because tapirs.
@@briansullivan5908 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White
Is Operation Snow White what Simon performs nasally before firing up another blaze pod ? AM I RIGHT PETER ?
The largest infiltration of the United States government through espionage in the history of the nation.
They believe in taking your money.
and taking control
edit : certain comments are disappearing. oh no
@@Skyline_NTR yeah its totally creepy
Just like some churches
Man Scientologys creation story sounds like a cool sifi series
The man who invented scientology was actually a Sci fi writer 😅 I can't remember his name but once I learned a writer did it, it all made sense.
@@artxgx9245 L Ron Hubbard
The book "Hollywood Babylon" had a chapter on Scientology where it said to learn "The Secret" behind the church would cost members upward to $250,000.
You left out the part where the Church bought a multi-million-dollar yacht and didn't have to pay tax for it because religious organizations in the US are exempt from taxes
And your point is?
So are other secular churches like Universities, public Hospital foundations, political foundations, BLM, NRA, NOW, Southern Poverty Law Center, the Girl Scouts, the United Way, The Clinton Foundation, PEW trust.....
Many of which have bought luxury cars, houses, fabulous office space, world travel, speculative real estate for their elite director class.
@@fugazinemesis how dense are you?
It's interesting to note that Xenu's ancient world was peetty much identical to 1950s America in look and technology.
Except for the Boeing 707s that could fly through space. That’s some pretty advanced technology there!
That makes it even more impressive!
Same thing applies to all scifi. All science fiction reflects the time it was written in, and it's all really about that time, and this planet. It's a lot like fables, really. But yeah it's amazing the bare-faced cheek of Elron, writing all this bullshit down in the knowledge he was going to brainwash people into taking it perfectly seriously. If he wasn't an evil piece of shit he would be the greatest troll in the history of mankind. Maybe he is.
BTW just a note, the L in "L Ron" stands for "Lafayette". But people laughed at his girly first name so he only ever used the L. Actually true.
1972, age 17: I entered a Scientology (new 2 me) shop. Bought a book, left my address as asked. Oops! P estered by mail until my mother started sending back "not interested".
I used to do hardware computer repair at the Scientology Center in LA and was waiting in a hallway when I saw someone getting a "caning" beating in a room where the door wasn't completely shut.
Hopefully Simon will be able to dodge a R2-45 audit for making this
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R2-45 is the name given by L. Ron Hubbard to what he described as "an enormously effective process for exteriorization but its use is frowned upon by this society at this time".[1] In Scientology doctrine, exteriorization refers to the separation of the thetan (soul) from the body, a phenomenon which Hubbard asserts can be achieved through Scientology auditing. R2-45 is said to be a process by which exteriorization could be produced by shooting a person in the head with a .45 pistol. This literal meaning is acknowledged by the Church of Scientology, although they deny that it is meant seriously.[2]
Daven Hiskey owns this channel.
Isn't a R2-45 an astromech droid?
Scientology IS A GREAT AND THE ONLY TRUE RELIGION ! ALL YOU TRUMP PEOPLE AND E-CHRISTIAN SHOULD JOIN TODAY!!!
How to make a video about Scientology without getting your comment section ransacked and without getting threatening phone calls from Scientology lawyers.
The only reason we don't believe it, is because, it isn't old.
Sounds like Simon made sure his lawyers went through this with a fine tooth comb.😂
allegedly
Twice.
Ya this is seriously watered down.
@@tdu5777 Also known as cowardice.
I feel like I needed a thesaurus to understand what he was saying for half of it 😂
I think ‘South Park’ tackled this, =)
I always wondered if it is actually as ridiculous as portrayed in that episode. But could not be bothered to check myself...
Also Mormon church. South park are so educational 👍 taught me so much these past 25years.
They did.. and they were rather accurate lol..
@@EventH0riz0n South Park was pretty accurate..
The man who created Scientology(Hubbard), was not ONLY a science fiction writer, but wrote more science fiction than anyone else in history..
Scientologists believe that the ONLY work of nonfiction Hubbard wrote, was Scientology..
Watch count Arthur strong bbc comedy show
You had me at perfectly cooked hamburger, where do I sign?
And if all that isn't crazy enough they also believe John Travolta is a good actor.
Just a heads up, one evening I researched Scientology using Google, specifically which public figures where Scientologists. Soon after that evening I started receiving postcard invitations to introductory Scientology events in my area. The infuriating thing is I never volunteered any personal information on any site during my night of research. It's been a couple of years and I still occasionally receive Scientology invitations in the mail, because of this I stopped using Chrome as my default browser or doing searches with Google.
They have members infiltrate every major company and government organization, municipal, state and federal. They weaponize every piece of information they can get their hands on. And they have gone out of their way to gather every bit of information possible. Most of the money they scam out of people is used to fund lawyers and private investigators.
Should have used Nord VPN
It seems like you need a nord V.P.N.
@@Neil21407 and @National McVie
Wouldn't have helped. The main reason they would have gotten that information is if they went to a Scientologist website, and if you didn't set proper Cookie settings (which for a long time on most browsers, including Firefox) was not good standard settings, you could end up with an advertising bureau or similar that was selling the information.
Frankly certain advertising bureaus do sell information on websites that they serve ads on about the demographics in question.
Beyond that, depending on the ISP and what time era, they could technically have gotten your address or area from your IP, hardware, browser settings, even the size of your browser window and many other identifying settings, just take that unique combination and if you ever enter private information anywhere they will tie it to that unique combination and they can get to identify you. Mix this with many services sell information about your browsing habits (usually advertising bureaus, Facebook, etc) as soon as you have been identified, meaning you can buy that from them.
NordVPN does NOT! help with this... NordVPN does not help you completely conceal all of these identifying information, since NordVPN does nothing to stop that. Companies will still gather cookies, and the rest of the identifying information. Unless you completely wipe your browser every time, run it on a virtual machine where you modify settings every time to ensure you never run a unique setup, and use a VPN switching countries often... or just disable cookies outright (some websites wont work properly), as well as disabling all JavaScript and more... Beyond that, never enter any identifying information anywhere, including Facebook or otherwise, order anything from an online store (unless you are absolutely sure they don't sell customer information, which you can't) and ... again... far more... unless you do that, you can be tracked...
VPN or not... Oh yeah, and scramble your Mac Address every time you start your internet...
NordVPN DOES NOT HELP ACTUALLY HIDE WHO YOU ARE! it is misleading advertisement, and in Denmark is actually illegal to advertise with that.
I'm glad that didn't happen to me. I know I'm researched S*. I've tried other browsers, but I didn't get anywhere near the same number of search results.
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Two words….tax scam!
The only "Glass Ceiling " in Scientology, is money.
You're welcome in as far as your money will take you.
Jeez, these a holes. See that big blue building? I've lived within a few block of that thing (used to be a hospital) my whole life. These scammers are always at the bus station a few blocks away, looking to get their hooks into anyone who looks gullible. They have to go there because NOBODY in the area will give them the time of day. We all know about them and they ain't fooling us. Creepy AF. (Creepiest thing about that building? Every single shade in every window is ALWAYS pulled down. Not a ray of sunlight ever gets in and no one can see anything inside.)
Very evocative...thx!
Darkness! They’re evil
For 5 years I sat between a disgruntled mormon and a dissolution scientologist. They played this game kind of like "yo mama" but but it was bustin on their former affiliations. The only rule was, the statement had to be true. They used humor and a well earned cynicism to combat what those organizations were putting them through. They each had a reason to hate their former religious advisors.
Both were fighting their spouses for custody of their kids and their spouses had lawyers provided by the organizations. Both were being bled dry to get their kids out of the "cult hell". They had to depend on the sympathy of the front desk person to let them know when a lunch meeting was over and there were leftovers in the break room.
I felt so bad for the one guy whose
Ex stated the reason that the guy was an unfit parent was because he was living in his buddies garage. This guy made 6 figures! The reason he was so broke was all of his money was going to lawyer to try and get custody. It turned out bad for both the exmormon lost custody. The scientologist got shared custody but the mom took off and he hasn't seen his lids in 8 years.
We need freedom of religion but freedom from it too. I realize their information was bitter. My opinion though, is based on the very just reason of their bitterness.
Disillusioned? Both were out of their churches, right? But the churches sent them lawyers?
Not all religions are created equal. Same thing goes with cultures and food
@@InteriorDesignStudent oh, hell no. But it cost them every thing they had to pay for their own lawyer to fight em.
@@maverick7291 I agree. They are not all the same. Some are way better than others. For myself, I have never found one that didn't, to me, feel manipulative in some way.
@@LambentLark if the human condition, even if we find something perfect we're bound to f it up. And secular institutions aren't immune to this either.
Sweet! Proud Psychiatrist here. I had no idea I was a suppressive person. Is it weird that I feel special? 😂
The amount of celebrities that are scientologists just boggles my mind.
I've always found Scientology's raging against psychiatry hilarious. This comes directly from Hubbard himself, and it's transparently obvious why he hated psychiatrists: he wanted the money that people would otherwise pay to psychiatrists. Also, the thought of ever being forced to get a psychiatric diagnosis would have been a terrifying prospect for Hubbard. He knew he was a fraud and a habitual liar with delusions of grandeur.
ikr. He shouldve just been placed on 5350, and gotten some electroconvulsive therapy, and been prescribed thorazine & prozac & a little ritalin. If that dont work, theres always neuroleptics.
Just read the reviews for any mental health clinic or psychiatric hospital, psychiatry is great! and their meds are even BETTER! And they always manage to discover, and advertise for a brand new disorder, every time they patent a new drug. Thats just ingenuity... How could a $400 billion industry possibly be bad?? Big pharma spends more on lobbying than any other group - double what the insurance industry spends. Obviously, they're just trying to help ppl. Right... right..?
No. I think it's far more likely that he hated psychologists because they told him he wasn't sane. When he developed his self-help group that tried to use hypnosis to remember all the past traumas they had as infants and even in the womb, they pointed out what a load of BS it was.
As with any group like this, if you make a list of all the outside people in a position to know about the group's workings, you'll have a list of all the group's worst enemies.
Context here is key! We do have to remember that Hubbard was writing in the 1940s and 50s. This was the time in medical history when lobotomies were common, when people were tortured with electroshock and were held and abused essentially in prisons. Mental health really was a "factory of death". I do wonder, though, if Hubbard himself or some close friend or family member didn't suffer in the mental health system of the early 20th century.
If this is true, why did L Ron Hubbard work so closely with psychiatrist Thomas Szasz to stop the human rights abuses being committed against some mental health patients? I fully understand the concerns he had and admire both those men because when I was a teen in the 60s the first black teacher in our state (very white state) worked at the college my mom taught at. She was put in a mental health facility because she'd called the college switchboard for help and the only doctor available was the college psychiatrist who examined her and diagnosed that she'd had a psychotic break. At the facility she was kept restrained and drugged till she lapsed into a coma at which point they took her to the hospital - too late, unfortunately, to save her from the ruptured appendix that was causing her screaming and crying.
A good number of black students at that college who were deeply involved in the civil rights movement at the time were committed and "treated" as well. Lest you believe that is all in the past, there is that black woman committed against her will in NY for telling off a cop and explaining to him that she deserved to be treated with respect - that Obama followed her tweets. She wasn't released from the facility for a few days till she was willing to admit that Obama did not follow her tweets. Too bad that, in fact, Obama actually did follow her tweets.
Psychiatry has been used/abused as a tool of oppression throughout the world and L Ron Hubbard was vehemently against that, but so was Dr Szasz and quite a few other psychiatrists. Violating a person's human rights in the name of treatment is not something that the whole field of psychiatry is in agreement with. The problem is not fully fixed yet - apartheid is gone, but people of color can attest that it is sometimes used to against them here in the U.S. to this day, and it's openly used in countries such as Russia to handle dissenters. These things should not be happening in a civilized world.
That's not why he hated psychiatrists. He actually wanted the field as a whole to use Dianetics but when they told him it was a bunch of bullshit, that's when he started the war against it.
Now that was a lesson in the "art of the tip-toe" we can all learn from. A+. Thank you Today I Found Out.
Biggest coward award of all times granted to Simon.
Lucky for you there is no hell, otherwise you'd fry there forever for not warning against this criminal cult disguising as a religion.
Just saying I love your show. Great stuff!
I can't wait for the Danny Masterson trial Claire Headley is an expert watch growing up in Scientology for coverage
It might be interesting to have a whole series on Today I Found Out: "What Do [Religion X Adherents] Actually Believe?" Unpacking the weirdly specific details and dogmas of different religions would be illuminating.
Religion For Breakfast is a great channel for this kind of info.
I follow a fairly mainstream religion, but was surprised to find out certain beliefs of that religion when I was an adult. And then there is the leader of the religion who has made statements on what I should believe is right and wrong that I certainly didn’t agree with. So now I, like many who follow this religion, pick and choose what things to believe, think and follow. Which means I’m not really following my religion, but just sorta winging it. Then again, I’m not sure any one religion is right - or perhaps a bunch are right and there’s multiple gods and there’s more to the story?
I’m still looking at the universe, and all of time, and trying to find the meaning in the vastness of both time and space. I mean all those galaxies... there’s gotta be a reason for them all, right?
@@stephen3164 Have you looked into Alchemy and Hermeticism? Rosicrucianism?
I think you'd maybe get answers to some of your questions. Or maybe not. Worth a look all the same
Good idea, hard to put into practice. Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism etc have common roots, but interpretations (denominations/schools/sects) would make this an infinitely branching proposition - endless source material!
I just really like Athena as a figure, also the somewhat related (and much older) Ninhursag, so I just go with them for my patron dieties. It doesn't really matter whether the gods are real or not, just that you have some ideals that you can ride along with as an aspiration. I don't really like rules or the concept of sin, so my compass is "Don't be a jerk, and don't deliberately hurt the feelings of others"
One thing people forget about L. Ron Hubbard was that he was a Naval Officer during WWII. According to the church, he was a decorated war hero who was crucial in victory.
According to his records, he was put in command of an obsolete ship patrolling southern California until he almost started a war with Mexico and, from what I understand, was removed and discharged. From the Military, in WWII.
I should say all this is "Allegedly".
Oh there is NO "allegedly" about it! That is 110% accurate. They kicked his ass out of there so fast!!! But, ask any Scientologists & they will tell you that, "Yes! Greatest war hero in the history of the military! The whole expansion of the military would have fallen & been destroyed if not for Hubbard, the greatest man to have ever walked upon the earth" And no, that is not an exaggeration! Just visit the " L.Ron Hubbard museum " in downtown LA ! I've never heard so many people literally just gush on & on about someone. You definitely need a shower after the visit because your just covered in all the bullshit they spew at you!! LOL
Scientology is all about giving money to the organization under the pretense of reaching different levels of superior performance
every homeless person in clearwater could tell you stories about them for hours.
When I was a freshman in highschool I started toying around with my spiritual beliefs and trying to figure out exactly what I wanted to believe in. To that end, I ultimately came up with a broad definition of personal beliefs and how they might interact with the world around me. I decided to formalize these ideas and... basically started my own personal religion. I would've been 14 at the time... And my 14 year old self came up with a belief system substantially less asinine and convoluted than Hubbard. Ultimately it didn't matter anyway; as I decided religion wasn't really for me; and that it wasn't a necessary part of my personal philosophy. Had I known how much money was in it... Maybe I should've given it go for longer.
I am betting whatever you created at 14 is better and more logical than Scientology!
But much less profitable.
Yeah but you were acting in good faith. You actually wanted a set of beliefs that a good person could live by, that made sense of the world as you percieved it. Scientology's aims are very different from that, so of course their "beliefs" are.
You can tell this script went through a very worried lawyer.
The Flying Spaghetti Monster is from Pastafarianism, not Scientology
"This steak is rare......my inter-alien told me so...."
The Church of Scientology has its own specialized film studio located in Hemet, CA (approx. 100 miles east of Los Angeles,) where I was hired several times as an actor for documentary style film re-enactments. The relatively secluded studio covers several acres of ground and includes a large pond which holds a nearly full-sized replica of a sailing ship (for filming purposes) as well as a full sized medieval European style castle which houses the main studio sound stages. In fact, the general appearance of the studio grounds are reminiscent of a medieval European village surrounding the castle.
As I was repeatedly hired to work in their films, I was also increasingly pressed to join the church which I just could not do. Eventually I would no longer be hired to work at the studio.
Sadly not surprised by the last bit, but the rest is super interesting! Thanks for sharing.
I live about 2 literal minutes away from "Gold Base" or" ENT" ( The movie studio) & I have been lucky enough to have had several "tours" of the base there. I am also an actor & as we went into the castle (studio), I had mentioned my profession, to which the lady became kinda excited & stared asking me if I would be open to possibly working w/ them on their movies. She went on & on about what an amazing studio they had, & that everything from sets, costumes & wigs are all made " in house," & there is no expense to great. Going on, she said their movies rival the big movie studio productions & they will only use the best directors ( if they hire outside help), actors & crews. This lady went on & on & on...lol. She then gave me her card & the card of someone else there who hires actors & such. I was very polite & said "thank you," all the while knowing there was not a chance in hell I would ever be calling them, let alone work for them!! I have been researching Scientology for many many years & have been to see the "Celebrity Center" in LA, not to mention the oh so fascinating "L. Ron Hubbard museum" ( never been??? OMG U MUST!!) & of course I had questions, many many questions,but....they didn't seem to like my questions. Matter of fact, they disliked my questions so much, that I was escorted off both properties & then harassed by them for a couple of years!!! LOL, needless to say, even if I did take them up on their offer to work there, I believe they would have found out I was a "suppressive person" & would never had hired me!! The whole thing makes me laugh!! But, I am curious about your experience there. How were you hired, how were the people & working conditions etc. Not trying to pry into your life & if you would rather not speak on it, I totally understand. But, I am genuinely curious & would love to know.
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@@TinkerHell04 your described experience doesn't surprise me as it all sounds a lot similar to things I was told, (i.e., best directors and what-not.) I was first hired through a chance meeting that went as such: my sister had a boyfriend (at the time) who was an Olympic-caliber track & field athlete, and he had been hired through whatever connections to perform some long-jumps for a Scientology produced film. To get to the shooting location, my sister's boyfriend asked me to drive him as he didn't have other means. Since I was an actor, the production crew took one of my headshots "just in case," and eventually they did call me to work on a project. This would lead to me working on several projects spanning about 3 years' time. One of the reasons I believe they hire me so often was because I lived fairly close to their castle studio. However, I also believe they stopped hiring me because after several attempts to coheres me to join their church I continually rebuffed them. All that occurred in the early 2000s. I remember that they often told me that I was welcome to visit the main church of which you've described, but I never did as I had no desire to be more involved than I already was; an actor doing a job.
'Humans are going to human' is one of the best statements I've heard in years and so true, thanks Simon.
One of the best things I've heard in a while.
there are 3 indisputable facts of life. death, taxes and human stupidity
@@Zhinix04 you love your oppression if you accept taxes as fact. Smelly scum!
@@jacksonrelaxin3425 there are 2 things that are inevitable. death and taxes. there is no way (legally) to avoid paying any taxes at all. (whenever you buy something, you pay VAT and if you live in the states, state and federal tax) + income tax that is not escapable (legally)
L. Ron Hubbard was an acolyte of Aleister Crowley. One is tempted to dismiss them as world class cranks. But they were just a product of their times, when supernatural nonsense had greater acceptance. That having been said, Hubbard, author of 'Battlefield Earth', is known to have quipped that the best way to get rich is to invent your own religion. Indeed.
The fact this is considered a "religion" and is allowed to exist in the US says just about everything you need to know about the place.
We want more! It would be a very cool series to learn about all types of religions and what their beliefs are.
I still remember operation clambake.
That's when anonymous became a thing.
I met a few of them today handing out free personality test pamphlets. It's so sad to see them wasting their life on a lie. But then again that's the reality of most people
I wonder if people go up to them and say things like, so have you heard about Xenu yet. And see if they explode.
well actually every person you see handing those pamplets out might be innocent.. i was new to their religion and was just passing out pamphlets cuz i was told so, dont mix some of them up with actually believing it,
I was in Hollywood on vacation visiting my sister. Walking along the star road, i saw a huge bust statue that said L Ron Hubbard under it. I thought i remembered he was a writer like Tolkien, so i thought it was a library or something and wanted a picture of the bust. I went in to take a picture, and some ladies came up and offered us a tour...tour of a library? Ok. Well, that was when we were sucked into an hour long pitch for scientology. Took me anout 5 minutes into it before i remembered who Hubbard actually was and my focus became we need to get tf out of there (my little brother was with me, but he had no idea about scientology at the time). It was sooooo creepy. I felt so bad for the lady giving us the tour because it was clear she was in deep.
People forget the Hubbard was a sci-fi writer before becoming a religion founder. Actually the story of the ancient space alien and all it entails would be a pretty interesting sci-fi story.
I suspect Hubbard started Scientology as an experiment and either got caught up in the power it gave him or it was taken over by those he entrusted with it's operation.
@@reasonss0fak1ngwut Sounds like a religion to me.
Is it though? Alien tyrant throws people into volcanoes and hits em with bombs? That is cringy and hilarious to me, not interesting.
@@OneViolentGentleman He wrote pulp stories before he started his religion. And they were actually well received.
It’s more on the religious/philosophical side than the sci-fi side tbf. His s writings cover a wide gamut. Stuff like (not an exact quote because copyright, but gets the idea across) “invent a big house to hide a small house, shrink a tiny house to reveal a big house, explosion” for pages.
It’s a lot to read through, partially handwritten (on legal stock), but pretty standard religious stuff. A bigger focus on thinking than others. Definitely counts as a religion if the others count IMO. it’s them seebees that’ll get ya.👋
A cult. It rips families apart.
*AND* rips people off : 👼💸👹👣🏦 . ♑️✍️🇦🇺🇳🇴
They took over an entire city here in Florida
"nebulous", I love that. And i've noticed Simon use it often, and why not. 'Tis a good word
Now they are gonna send Tom Cruise after Simon...
Tom will wind up in the basement proofreading Danny's scripts.
Tiny Com Cruise from family guy
@@tiki_trash the basement closet... near the fudge packaging factory
It was great watching you Simon.
I would have laughed in L. Ron Hubbard's face and told him there is simply no way that people are going to believe your load of crap. Of course, I would have been wrong.
They will never fill that empty hole, with the crap sytology spews out to them!
"Congratulations Bob you just achieved the highest rank in Scientology, you can now cook burgers perfectly."
Somehow, over time, all organized religions end up concerned mostly with power and money. Scientology started that right away from the start.
The church of scientology doesn't discriminate against race, sex, ethnicity, only poor people.
You should consult people who've actually left Scientology.
I didn't catch any disclaimer that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is not related to Scientology, but is the "deity" of Pastafarianism.... may we all be touched by his noodly appendage.
Nor did I. His noodlliness should not be mis-associated … may we all be touched by his noodle appendage
And partake of the hot, salted water.
I am a Parmesianite.
In summary: AVOID SCIENTOLOGY at ALL COSTS, for SCIENTOLOGISTS are barking dog crazy!
A simple search on this platform will bring about hours of scientologists acting completely unhinged. Pure viewing pleasure.
the way you explained them reminds me of the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy!!