I Built my DREAM Vocal Chain!

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  • This video is focused on my the quality of the Neve 1073 SPX, and how it's the center of my dream vocal chain.
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  • @THEKITPLUG
    @THEKITPLUG ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Boost the mids a tad on the $599 setup and save yourself $8,400

  • @shingAMarie
    @shingAMarie ปีที่แล้ว +160

    I feel like this comparison would make more sense if you used the same microphone, because the difference in and of itself could simply be accounted to the different mics, and not necessarily the other hardware units you purchased.

    • @kaisersoze9488
      @kaisersoze9488 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Exactly, is not a fair comparison I don't know who he's trying to fool I track with hardware gear also and the mic plays a big role.

    • @htmr78
      @htmr78 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Exactly, the difference we hear is 99% caused by the different microphones not the chain, I have a u87ai and many others mics and preamps.

    • @JaeBTundra1
      @JaeBTundra1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@htmr78 the mic is big instrument in the vocal chain lol

    • @fluphybunny930
      @fluphybunny930 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Would definitely like to see some future versions of this: same chain but different microphones.
      Start at the £100 budget end and work up tier to tier.
      Then we can see if the more expensive gear highlights the pros or cons of the cheaper microphones.
      If I was to guess you will get to around £400-500 microphones that sound different but arguably as good as the Neumann (i.e. more dependent on the singers voice etc)

    • @LordBiffMusic
      @LordBiffMusic ปีที่แล้ว +2

      would be nice but the comparison also makes sense the way he did it

  • @JKOnTheTrack-dd9wm
    @JKOnTheTrack-dd9wm ปีที่แล้ว

    You know what's crazy, I went through the exact same sequence of mics. And now I'm looking at the U87. So I think I'm on the right track now lol

  • @eddwardmusic
    @eddwardmusic ปีที่แล้ว

    Had 1073SPX chained with U87 and honestly after a year of tries I sold the 1073 and on the way to sell the U87. Thinking of getting back the TLM102 or AKG 414 chained with Avalon 737

  • @HarvVideoAudioStuff
    @HarvVideoAudioStuff ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't understand why people still buy Neve gear when there are so many exceptional clones that sound the same and are built to same standard (warm, heritage audio etc). I suppose they don't have Neve logo so there's that :)

  • @HarvinderSingh-yy8th
    @HarvinderSingh-yy8th 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When are you going to buy UAD 1176 COMPRESSOR.

  • @lmgindamix6996
    @lmgindamix6996 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a great video man, I know making such videos and listening to feedbacks is tough and you are tougher. What is the name of the song at the end? it is very nice, big up.

  • @lmarzandere
    @lmarzandere ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad to see you got your dream vocal chain! Def. looking to have a similar one. Do you use the digital feature on the Neve?! I always wanted to know how that'll work with vocals! :)

  • @Arvin2332
    @Arvin2332 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A good Singer + mixing engineer will make a faaaaaar bigger difference, and in this case the vocal chain was completely irrelevant to the “improvement in sound”. I bet you can get the exact same result with the Rode mic, just with more knowledge of mixing and some free plugins.

  • @raymondavis4768
    @raymondavis4768 ปีที่แล้ว +415

    the cheap stuff was just as good some will say better, thanks for showing us that we don't need to spend thousands of dollars to sound good! Plot twist

    • @andr3s12
      @andr3s12 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I agree with you. I'm guessing you'd have to be an audio expert and/or be listening on expensive headphones to be able to tell the difference. As for the other 99% of us mortals listening over our phone speakers or cheap headphones, both sound exactly the same 😅

    • @Bexgotthebounce
      @Bexgotthebounce ปีที่แล้ว +59

      There’s a big difference in warmth and dynamics when it’s mixed correctly.
      You’re playing yourself thinking “good enough.” Your favorite artist doesn’t think that way.

    • @VaseLu
      @VaseLu ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@Bexgotthebounce yeah but your favorite artist doesnt record at home nor they mix or master their own stuff. And they obviously have more money to spend.
      Now, Im not saying there isnt a difference, and any music creator enthusiast should buy stuff they can afford and want to.
      BUT, the noticable difference for the average listener is nowhere near the money it costs, and you can have all the fun and decent results with cheaper equipment. And if you end up making it big, youll get acess to the best studios anyway.

    • @XllamuForte
      @XllamuForte ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's exactly what I was thinking 😂

    • @SoJesusChristMusic
      @SoJesusChristMusic ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Ive owned the AT2020 and it sounded good...but you don't really notice the difference in a cheaper mic until you start doing heavy equalizing and compressing. At that point you'll start running into hidden issues. If you run high bit rates and sample rates and heavy equalizing and compression in you'll notice why the TLM103 and U87ai which I own are so much better. But you are totally correct...listening from my phone I couldn't tell...but it did sound like the AT2020 sounded better. Just keep in mind sound and detail are two different things. If you was to listen to this same song in a car with a premium sound system you'd notice the detail and clarity captured by the Neumann mics. I used the AT2020 for years and it's still one of the number one mics that I recommend for beginners and people on a budget...but for those that want Hollywood detail and are using higher bit rates, sample rates, extreme equalizing, heavy compression, and recording in analog, and trying to compete with Hollywood quality and detail...They're definitely going to want a high end mic. Some songs are good...other songs are just hits that you want to play over and over and they just take you away. Maria Carey, Dr Dre, 50 Cent, Migos, and many others use the Sony C800G which is a $15,000 mic... And if you know how to use it it will blow a AT2020 out of the park. To someone that knows nothing about professional equalizing and (analog before converting to digital), and the proper vocal chain...they won't get the best from that mic. 2Pac used a Neumann tube mic on many of his songs. That's one reason why his songs are still hits today. A lot of people think a $200 mic is just as good as the high end stuff then they wonder why when a Hollywood song comes on their music is forgotten. It's the detail. So... Yes...work with what you have but when you get serious and learn the tricks of the professionals in Hollywood invest in yourself. Even upgrading to the TLM103 was a game changer. Much clearer and cleaner mic! But many people confuse brightness with clarity. Brightness is just when you turn up the high frequency. But clarity starts at the mic capsule and internal components and wiring. The capsule in the TLM103 is the same capsule in the $4,000 U87ai but the U87ai is a FET mic (similar warm sweet sound of a Tube Mic...like the Sony C800G). I've also owned the TLM102 which looks like the TLM102 but is smaller and doesn't have the same capsule as the U87ai. The TLM102 is okay but I got rid of mine for the TLM103 which is way better even though they nearly look the same...but like I said people that don't understand dynamics, use extreme compression and equalizing and analog and high bit rates and sample rates will probably never notice. If you don't use that then you won't get the best out of those mics. Everyone records differently. But when you're trying to compete with Hollywood...you take things more serious. If you don't have a lot of money but want compatible detailed mics of Hollywood and big names then check out Warm Audio... They are created in my city and state Austin Texas...They make high detailed mics equipment for like 85% less than the big names.

  • @henryjunior9739
    @henryjunior9739 ปีที่แล้ว +223

    Am I the only one who thought the "budget option" actually sounded better ..? 🤣
    Awesome equipment though! Really cool.

    • @CRYPTONINJASAMURAI
      @CRYPTONINJASAMURAI 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Agree! His vocal already adapted to the old gears, its part of the vocal chain now.

    • @henrikpetersson3463
      @henrikpetersson3463 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      For the dry sample it held up really good. But once it was processed the old setup sounded horrible.

    • @elzippo
      @elzippo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@henrikpetersson3463 And we will never know what he applied in that box.

    • @juice.engineer
      @juice.engineer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Idk what you're listening on, but there's a pretty stark difference when I'm watching from my studio monitors, and that's considering TH-cam's audio compression for streaming. I'd imagine the difference to be even bigger when you have access to the actual wav files. The bigger budget stuff is warm, smooth, buttery but with an open & airy high end. The low budget setup didn't sound "bad" but it was harsh and electronic-sounding. That NT1A has a brittle high end that I'm not a fan of, but most of the difference in what we're hearing is really in the microphones.

    • @henrikpetersson3463
      @henrikpetersson3463 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@juice.engineer I agree. Though, you can’t argue with taste. Well, actually you can, but it’s usually a dead end.

  • @cubaseman1487
    @cubaseman1487 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I didn't hear much difference.🙄🤔

    • @Mike-vr7mb
      @Mike-vr7mb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I giggled! 🤭 You might need ear wax 😅

  • @GuilhermeGodoipiano
    @GuilhermeGodoipiano ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Just a hint: when screwing the mic onto the shockmount, the idea is that you place the mic in your preferred position, and then turn the ring in the bottom, so the mic stays put. Not the other way around 😂

  • @matstokesmusic
    @matstokesmusic ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There wasn’t that much difference between your $599 sound and the $8999 sound. $8400 is overkill to get that sound.

  • @arrowintheknee9956
    @arrowintheknee9956 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    ?... Sorry, there's no huge difference.

    • @FREEYSLTHUGGER
      @FREEYSLTHUGGER วันที่ผ่านมา

      You do know TH-cam downgrades the quality of the audio through compression 😂

  • @earjwee
    @earjwee ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I actually prefer the 599.00 Setup!!

    • @h0odie
      @h0odie ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lolll

    • @stashmoneyable
      @stashmoneyable ปีที่แล้ว

      🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @crafting11111
      @crafting11111 ปีที่แล้ว

      U have no idea ...

    • @crafting11111
      @crafting11111 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@earjwee nah nah u need to clean them dirty ears my boy 🤣

    • @MinutesB4Midnight
      @MinutesB4Midnight ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too. But the other is more tame.

  • @2011studies
    @2011studies ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ok, so I listen to the final section at first through my smaller JBL's. I didn't hear a huge difference. Put my AKG phones on and listened again. Still, not a huge difference. When it comes down to NOT doing a/b comparisons, your original set-up would pass as good. Thank you for saving me money. :o)

  • @Nelsonoslen
    @Nelsonoslen ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is it me? Or sincerely, there isn’t a huge difference?
    I think is unnecessary spending thousands of dollars on that gear.
    As an average Joe, my opinion is that you can make high quality recordings with a $200 or less microphone, cable, and audio interface kit. The vast majority doesn’t hear the difference.

    • @Bexgotthebounce
      @Bexgotthebounce ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ima make a video. I use this exact setup.
      Ima show Yal the difference.

  • @EdwardSmithMusic
    @EdwardSmithMusic  ปีที่แล้ว +22

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    • @yssnfilms
      @yssnfilms ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey u helped me 3yrs ago choose a at2020 I’m ready for my final mic forever wa87 r2 or take the leap with u87

    • @Covstam
      @Covstam ปีที่แล้ว

      Whats the diff between Neve1073 & Warm audio 73?

    • @djonlyvibe
      @djonlyvibe ปีที่แล้ว

      My current setup.:
      - Nuemann TLM103
      - Apollo X6
      - Warm Audio Wa76EQ
      - Warm Audio Wa2a
      - Warm Audio Wa76
      - SSL Fusion
      - Heritage Audio Successor
      I’m thinking about replacing all the Warm Audios with the real Gears, is that even necessary?

    • @JaeBTundra1
      @JaeBTundra1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Covstam big difference. The neve is the real thing while the warm is the imitation.

    • @JaeBTundra1
      @JaeBTundra1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@djonlyvibe Yes to take it to the next level.

  • @StudioFanThess
    @StudioFanThess ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your voice sounds almost the same in both cases. So I'd say the difference in money doesn't justify the money on your voice. Sorry if I upset you...but for sure it will sound a huge difference on acoustic guitar, double bass, percussion, violin, female voice, more bassy male voice....I have the same machines and many more like ssl fusion, avalon AD2044, AD-DA converters, Antelope discrete 8 pro and others...I know how they respond. I'm not giving you a proof, just trying to let you know that you're not talking to someone ignorant or uninformed. I'm a professor of byzantine music in Greece...so I must be listening correctly...

  • @MajestyStudioPro
    @MajestyStudioPro ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looking for a vocal chain that will not cause me a divorce. LOL. I need to take my wife on an expensive trip first.

  • @officalj2productions290
    @officalj2productions290 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    wow it doesn't sounds better than the $599

    • @Brositive
      @Brositive ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you listening on a mobile phone?

  • @SnWlf
    @SnWlf ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Hi Ed, audio engineer here. Just some constructive feedback for compressors that might suit your voice. Personally, I’d like to hear you sing thru a vari mu comp. Retro 176 is my favorite for singers with soft thinner voices because it adds weight but also depth and dimension. You could also serial chain an 1176 behind this to get more of that upfront “pop” vocal I think you’re going for. My favorite is the Purple MC77; kind of ugly unit but sounds amazing. I think you would find those more effective and flexible than a Tele LA-2A, and you could get both for essentially the same price as the LA-2A.

    • @NRVE8
      @NRVE8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      producer/ audio engineer as well here.... I second your advice. retro 176 is by far one of my favorite pieces of gear for vocals. I wouldn't waste money on a hardware LA-2A of any type just due to the fact tat plugin opto compressors are so good now. I think this dude just googled the most popular stuff without experience and blew his youtube money on it just to get more viewers.

    • @TheThinker43
      @TheThinker43 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep the retro 176 is magic … that 500 series retro tube pre on an sm7 is amazing as well. I also agree the warm audio 2A is garbage compared to the LA2A UAD plug-ins … Elam 251 or Sony mic is where the magic is for sure

    • @dkokalanov
      @dkokalanov ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very good comment!

    • @lortakeover2129
      @lortakeover2129 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you give me some advice I have the tlm103 and the neves 1073 I’m doing rap I wanted to get a compressor or get the u87 I don’t know what compressor I should get or if i should get a mic

    • @NRVE8
      @NRVE8 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lortakeover2129 get the SSL Bus+ or an 1176 Style compressor... Im not a fan U87, I think they're overrated

  • @PlanePark
    @PlanePark ปีที่แล้ว +2

    it hurts that everyone here don't hear a difference

  • @Gabeconstantinemusic
    @Gabeconstantinemusic ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Lmao tbh I like the way the scarlet sounds more. All you’d need to make it pop is a compression run through Fabfilter and some mild sibilance editing in oeksound soothe and you’d be set. I love your videos a lot, but tbh most people can’t afford this super expensive vocal chain. And the more audio gear videos I watch, the more I can see a pattern where the nature of this industry tries to make you feel that your music won’t be complete unless you get THIS piece of gear or THAT piece of gear. It’s like skin care ads that make you feel insecure about your skin and then magically try to sell you their skin products. It’s just the nature of how different facets of the audio/music industry make money off of you, the consumer. Also, please please please pple, trust your OWN tastes and ears, and make decisions based on what your ears are telling you sounds better. PLEASE DONT buy expensive gear arbitrarily just because certain other people tell you it sounds better. That’s like, their opinion man. For instance, personally I liked the way the scarlet sounded in his setup MORE than with his 8000 dollar vocal chain. But that’s just me. Pls try and remember folks, all this gear is cool but in the end, the buck stops with you, the artist. Don’t let less expensive gear hold you back. Because most of those famous artists recorded on shitty equipment before they blew up, but their original songs are what made them Famous. Not the gear they used. I know I seem like a Debbie downer here, but pls pple don’t think this kindof setup will be a magic wand. Only you can prevent forest fires.

    • @rohithamal4838
      @rohithamal4838 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You got my points cheers

    • @YAWN....
      @YAWN.... ปีที่แล้ว

      Fuckn agree!

  • @Andre_Ang
    @Andre_Ang ปีที่แล้ว +61

    this is definitely everyone's dream recording set up😂 So expensive but definitely worth every penny👍Always loving this channel!

    • @EdwardSmithMusic
      @EdwardSmithMusic  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you for watching 🙏🏻

    • @thebeatmajors_yt
      @thebeatmajors_yt ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's 🔥 for sure idk about dream though 😂 there's A LOT of gear and chains out there.

    • @DamnDealDone
      @DamnDealDone ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You love adverts because that's all these are.

    • @WeissAdvice
      @WeissAdvice ปีที่แล้ว +7

      it's definitely not worth every penny. almost all of these items are marketed top-of-line prosumer. You can easily get comparable better results for less. Before buying a ton of expensive gear, just take a minute to talk to someone who's had some recording experience. You'll get much better bang for your buck than what your Sweet Water rep recommends.

    • @BOSSTANG100
      @BOSSTANG100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wanted this set up til slate came in the picture

  • @Niccks
    @Niccks ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Changes nothing😂 bro is wasting money

  • @mandaladigitalstudio
    @mandaladigitalstudio ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why don't you use your Teletronix compressor from your UAD Apollo?

  • @Warriorsmusickproduction
    @Warriorsmusickproduction 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the budget option is waaaaaaaaaay better cleaner, less compressed, captures more of your 10kz-16kz range clearly, the other options have too much processes that kills the expression in your vocal performance...

  • @T00nMusic
    @T00nMusic ปีที่แล้ว +26

    the 9k vocal chain is just too clean, the dream of many vocalist

  • @jaklair
    @jaklair ปีที่แล้ว +2

    key message; expensive gear might give rarer sound

  • @hotdog7334
    @hotdog7334 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I prefer the cheaper one, listened on monitor headphones..

  • @WinSocialSecurityDisability
    @WinSocialSecurityDisability 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    His voice would sound best with a Brauner VMA...

  • @BogdanCurta
    @BogdanCurta ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The cheam setup sound the beston Yamaha hs 8m Studio minitors in my studio. On the secand and expensive setup you ave an agresiv comresion. the sound is mising the vitality and is no natural. In plus on the most expensive setup you are missing the hi ands sound on the frecvency at 8 1 khz. Sorry for your efort and spendings.

  • @tylerbreckling6974
    @tylerbreckling6974 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    After listening a few times I could really tell the difference! Sorry for those who can't hear the difference, but the reality is that you can spend several thousand dollars on gear but may only receive an extra 10-15% in improved quality. The real improvement comes from ourselves as far as great performances and improving our skills in production, recording, mixing and mastering... Once we can accept that and become serious about audio engineering, we can then become excited to chase after that extra 5%-10% that an awesome expensive preamps can add to the signal! Moral of the story, if you think paying 10x more on audio gear is going to be like comparing a camera on a cheap android with the latest iPhone camera, then you are just not serious about youre craft and have no business owning expensive outboard gear!

  • @IntheDAW
    @IntheDAW ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Man that higher end chain just sit so much better. No harsh tones still lots of air but so even. Amazing

    • @ramencurry6672
      @ramencurry6672 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They both sound good but usually better gear sounds less like a digital pocket recorder. You get that more polished radio like sound with better gear.

    • @vladlabyrinth6335
      @vladlabyrinth6335 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      just use fking eq man lol)))

    • @IntheDAW
      @IntheDAW ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @vladlabyrinth6335 eq can help a lot but you tend to raise the noise floor or you get dynamic resonances with cheaper microphones where at some louder volumes you can hear it almost like a resonating rattle and that can't be fixed with eq. The reason why I use higher end gear is because of how much easier it is to just get the job done.

    • @vladlabyrinth6335
      @vladlabyrinth6335 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IntheDAW Any mic can have resonances on every voice. And electro voice re20, and kms 105, and u47. But get rid of high pitch freq on shitty at2020 and add a little of the lower end - easy process. In any case, using a microphone that is most suitable for the singer's voice is the right way to go

    • @burakakan8341
      @burakakan8341 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      he crank up the high freqs in the budget one so we can tell the difference :)

  • @kitsou._
    @kitsou._ ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Yes there is a huge difference… the cheaper setup was better 💀😂

  • @millionreyrecords3428
    @millionreyrecords3428 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    en mis bocinas de 5 mil dólares , no cambia casi nada , gastaste 8 mil dólares mas por un cambio que existe na mas en tu cabeza , me gustaría decirle a todos el mundo ,aprendan a usar lo que tienen ,yo gaste muchísimo ,antes de aprender que puedes lograr una calidad de hollewood con cualquier cosa tu tengas ...usen mas la cabeza y los oídos y meno la billetera y la baja autoestima .

  • @DUSTINBARTRUM
    @DUSTINBARTRUM ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly that cheap set up sounded 100x better in my opinion.!- both were good tho

  • @homestudiohaven
    @homestudiohaven ปีที่แล้ว +11

    May I suggest you run out of the WA2A using an XLR to TRS to the line input of your Apollo interface. Running into the mic line of your interface adds another gain stage and reduces the amount you can push the Neve and WA2A. Try it and let me know what you think. Great vocals.

  • @dyonissiszoes3747
    @dyonissiszoes3747 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your voice does 90% of the job though... :-) so it's approximately worth 72.000 $. Quite flattering!!!

  • @chillwalker
    @chillwalker ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whats next: "I succesfully pluged my mike into the Mixer?"
    "I turned on my Computer "LIKE THE PROS DO"?
    LOL

  • @Mikas_Emil
    @Mikas_Emil ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Would be great if you could put up the raw tracks for everyone to A/B themselves!!

  • @bubz75
    @bubz75 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hmmm 🤔
    Should’ve spent the surplus money on singing lessons.
    Maybe a classically trained opera singer. Mezzo - forte tennor perhaps.
    You’re a good singer but you struggled hitting the top register , sounded a biting to my ear .

  • @Thysta
    @Thysta ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video reminds me of the one where the guys recreated the Jurassic Park video effects with modern softwares. They had everything Spielberg and his team could not use back then, but lacked one thing: actual talent. The end result, after using every great tool from AfterFX to C4D and Blender, just sucked. This video is just as empty. We understand daddy is rich though.

  • @littup7322
    @littup7322 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it breaks my heart that i didn't hear a difference.. i even closed my eyes to see if would know when the setup switched, i couldn't tell... here's my theory.. Companies are cheating the consumer, they are not using the same components they once used... like how the shure sm7b is popular because everyone thinks Micheal Jackson used it, Mike used the sm7, they later released the sm7a, & now we have the sm7b.. the components of the sm7b is a downgrade from the sm7, but it looks the same. nothing made today is gonna be as good as it was 30 or 40 years ago.. if your looking for gear that gives you that true warm analog sound, i suggest finding vintage hardware that's still in good condition, you'll pay a whole lot more but you'll definitely notice the difference

  • @GiovanniMorenoMusic
    @GiovanniMorenoMusic 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imo, a digital compressor works just fine. I dont see why anyone who's not a professional making money from music would get an actual compressor. Unless its for live performances on streaming platforms or something

  • @officialcisko
    @officialcisko ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Definitely not an $8k sound difference but I would still buy this setup since I run a studio. Clients will pay more because perception is key.

  • @buyaolian666
    @buyaolian666 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ed has all the money in his disposal but he cant even properly use EQ.hahahah .This kid has all the ego as a musician but as a music teacher nahh 2/10 on talent
    overrated.

  • @jinxypoes1
    @jinxypoes1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i did a vocal recording in an expensive audio studio and compared 2 my setup with a simple ml slate digital, some eq and plugins and i was there 90 percent in the same ballpark im glad i did not invest that kind of money, its not worth it anymore and plugins are getting better every day...

  • @SavoxYt
    @SavoxYt ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really sorry to say this, but that definitely wasn't money well spent.

  • @MainYotubeacct
    @MainYotubeacct ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My apex mic and my plug ins cost me 200$ in total and sounds professional 😂 but my cpu hates me

  • @TrevonJamar
    @TrevonJamar ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Great video!!!
    My vocal chain is tlm103 > wa73 EQ > Hairball 1176 Rev A / Audioscape Opto Comp > EQPWA (just for tube saturation) > Apollo x6 then I run my entire mix thru 2 500 series SSL SiX channel strips and I can’t wait to add more to my mix chain !!

  • @lortakeover2129
    @lortakeover2129 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Waiting on my warm audio been 7days late ,smh I’m copying your whole set up thanks

  • @icaris78
    @icaris78 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i think you sound better w out the tube mic bro plug in that other mic

  • @davidbasset7557
    @davidbasset7557 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s a no for me… whoever is listening to the music will not be able to tell what costs more just make good music

  • @spiritualjatt
    @spiritualjatt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    to the average listener probably wont even notice as they pick up the vibe of the song vs the technicals

  • @Biffinnbridge
    @Biffinnbridge 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Universal Audio best audio interface?
    RME!

  • @wickstorm_records
    @wickstorm_records ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Spend that money on acoustics and monitoring boys

  • @geargeekpdx3566
    @geargeekpdx3566 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Should have spent 4000 on vocal lessons and the rest on a publicist

  • @JeremyHolmes
    @JeremyHolmes 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Better? Yes. Worth the money you paid, fuck no.

  • @joksimovic5573
    @joksimovic5573 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also mann könnte WarmAudio genau so an Focusrite anschließen und die Ergebnisse sind erstaunlich gut. Alleine in deinem Fall klingt die günstigere Variante auch sehr sehr gut. Schlussendlich geht es nur darum woran DU glaubst. Im Endeffekt ist es für einen Musik-Konsumenten schlicht egal wie Du es aufnimmst da den Unterschied nur wenige wahrnehmen. Am Ende des Tages zählt nur eines: ist der Song super oder ist der Song scheiße. Wenn der Song flach und fad ist dann kannst du noch so teures Equipment benutzen aber das wird den Song nicht zu einem Hit machen. Ich finde die günstige wariante vernünftig da es für das Geld viel Musik bittet. Deine Variante ist fein aber für das Geld nicht überzeugend genug. Liebe Grüße aus Vienna

  • @xyxyxyxza2252
    @xyxyxyxza2252 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wrong compressor dude its like a best cake with bad chocolate

  • @VINAYAKJ10
    @VINAYAKJ10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro this same set-up i saw in Billie eilish brother studio when he posted a picture of his studio

  • @JustMe-999a
    @JustMe-999a 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude, it doesnt sound any better

  • @BkuBrown
    @BkuBrown ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would prefer to see more acoustic treatment on your vocal booth area. This alone will make a huge difference.

    • @ignacedhont9816
      @ignacedhont9816 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good advice, that's often very much underestimated!

  • @Onlyjustwilly
    @Onlyjustwilly 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey man trying to decide between id24 vs Apollo twin x what you would recommend only tracking vocals

    • @EdwardSmithMusic
      @EdwardSmithMusic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I use the Audient ID4 for all my vocal mic comparisons and it’s exceptional. The twin is also great, but it’s double the price, if not more. If I was using my money and had to pick, I’m going Audient on this one 🫡

  • @Sy21124
    @Sy21124 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice vocal chain, if only you could actually sing

  • @Nate28TV
    @Nate28TV 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Despite the gear. Man your voice is awesome. 👍🏿👍🏿💥

    • @EdwardSmithMusic
      @EdwardSmithMusic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Nate28TV Thank you 🙏🏻

  • @erickgabrielalfaroroldan5333
    @erickgabrielalfaroroldan5333 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you put to much compression in the new set up

  • @trollingisasport
    @trollingisasport 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A lot more smoother high end is what I noticed

  • @tedruis967
    @tedruis967 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    I feel like the cheap stuff you had sounded almost the same as the expensive items, I really appreciate you showing us this so we don’t spend al that time finding out that it wasn’t needed. It’s just how you eq and edit the vocal is where the trick & magic is.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yup

    • @nothingchannel111
      @nothingchannel111 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Also, with the brilliant minds creating plug-ins and computers processing power these days, most VST's are going to do a good enough job that you don't need thousands of dollars' worth of equipment. I've watched tons of shootouts, and the difference is negligible. It's all about your mixing skills.

    • @Prodbykahlert
      @Prodbykahlert 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      not at all - if you turn up your speakers while he performs u will hear it. Its the difference of having okay vocals and kanye vocals . There is almost no noise on the dryvocal, and the lower mids and lows heaving much more depth in the vocal chain. This stuff u will feel when mixing the vocals. But i also give you credit in the mixing regard - even a great recording setup can be destroyed with the wrong room and or mixing in the end. What i like about those pricey setups is, that ur usually almost done with the vocal with minimal equing after recording it.

    • @FullPowerMasteryWithRa
      @FullPowerMasteryWithRa 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You "feel like"? Speak english!

  • @Azizbls
    @Azizbls 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bro, people who like your voice either likes you or don't hear right, I've been following your journey for so long and this is my first time actually saying something, I beg of you, use Melodyne if you refuse for some unearthly reason some pitch corrector plugin stopping you from sounding like a broken jukebox to make you sound like maroon5 please consider this

  • @mr.monkei
    @mr.monkei ปีที่แล้ว

    Im not a big fan of the U87ai on your voice to be honest. Maybe a Telefunken tf-51 or Soyuz 017 FET would be prefect with your voice. Check em out

  • @Bexgotthebounce
    @Bexgotthebounce ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Max out the output on the neve and lower the mic input to gain stage. You get more tube sound from the unit.

  • @AngloSaxon1
    @AngloSaxon1 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Looks like a great set up, Sometimes gear makes all the difference to the end result. I am a voiceover artist and my chain is the Cad e100sx mic, Mogami Cables, A warm audio mic preamp, and an Audient interface, not as advanced and great as yours, but for a voiceover it is great.

    • @Gabeconstantinemusic
      @Gabeconstantinemusic ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And sometimes, gear makes little or no difference at all.

  • @_tune
    @_tune ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi, didn't you already own the wa273? Why did you upgrade to the original neve 1073 and does it make a huge difference?

    • @EdwardSmithMusic
      @EdwardSmithMusic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sweetwater was kind enough to send me a 1073, and since I've always wanted one, I couldn't resist.

  • @gaborb6577
    @gaborb6577 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Difference is definitely not worth. Just spend the money to write songs and covers.

  • @d_wib3810
    @d_wib3810 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Should have used the same mic and the same line in the song. To me, the extra expense was totally not worth it.

  • @Puttyankit11music
    @Puttyankit11music ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There is little bit changes but... It totaly depend on .... Who used that Equipment n how... Is he is talented ..... That the Main reason .... How he master n mix that will give u best output..😍😍 like u.. U can make this song on Presonus 24C Audio interface With mic Stc20 😉 it will not give u huge difference but yeah only Give a fully Satisfication ..... But Truth is Human R never Satisfied with any one..😁😍.. Great video😄

    • @gaborb6577
      @gaborb6577 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Definitely, your magical voice works perfect with nt1a and red interface.

    • @Puttyankit11music
      @Puttyankit11music ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gaborb6577 😁🤔🤔 is it right 😎....?? Dont knw.. I am not that much Talented in Sound engineering 😄

  • @saikousocial
    @saikousocial ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lovely setup. I personally prefer the look and sound of the Telefunken TF51 to the Neumann U87 for my voice, but they're both incredible microphones! Happy you've got your dream setup.
    Though I should say that you should've done a blind test, IMO. Of course the majority of people are going to say that the more expensive setup sounds better when they know they're listening to it.

  • @WBCStudio.
    @WBCStudio. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For me, the 599$ sounds better.

  • @morrisderuiter7630
    @morrisderuiter7630 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is like the hypebeast vocal chain

  • @youpoan
    @youpoan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can you explain why you don't use the uad plugins in your apollo interface and spend so much money on hardware? The UAD plugins sounds also great and work in real time or not?

  • @WileySilerMusic2024
    @WileySilerMusic2024 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m working out my analog vocal chain for a home studio. I have a Russian Oktava 319 into a Golden Age Project 73 mkiii. EQ and compression are handled by plugins but I might add a GAP EQ. For a home studio I don’t imagine needing more than that. A U87 clone is tempting though.

  • @DJScatox
    @DJScatox ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks You ❤

  • @PolymerJones
    @PolymerJones 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wanted the u87 for ten years and in 2021 I finally got it and the super expensive shock mount (covid relief money FTW). I agree it’s a surreal feeling. I have the mogami cord too, so those are the best xlr? I always keep my u87 in its nice wood box. Do you ever leave yours out? lol cheers

  • @PolymerJones
    @PolymerJones 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wanted the u87 for ten years and in 2021 I finally got it and the super expensive shock mount (covid relief money FTW). I agree it’s a surreal feeling. I have the mogami cord too, so those are the best xlr? I always keep my u87 in its nice wood box. Do you ever leave yours out? lol cheers

  • @andreasferlin8214
    @andreasferlin8214 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great. Have you tried to make the same vocalchain with UAD plug-ins? Maybe you could compare? Just to see a budget / halfway solution 😊. Run it through the console. Have a great day

    • @Gabeconstantinemusic
      @Gabeconstantinemusic ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah, because he’s being paid by these companies to try and advertise/sell us their most expensive gear. If the plug-ins sounded comparable (they do), he wouldn’t be able to get sponsored gear and hock these expensive products to us ;)

  • @gabrielthesingingpilot
    @gabrielthesingingpilot ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I could hear only a very slight tonal difference through my MX50x's and perhaps less noise but I can't say it's a "Huge" Difference. The gear looks amazing though :) I myself just run a Schoeps CMC5U Mk4 Capsule into a Grace Audio M101 then to a Apogee Duet 3 (line in ). Crisp, Clean and free of any coloration which I can add later if needed.

    • @shingAMarie
      @shingAMarie ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s an interesting set up. Do you have any voice samples we can listen to

    • @gabrielthesingingpilot
      @gabrielthesingingpilot ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shingAMarie spoken word or acapella?

    • @shingAMarie
      @shingAMarie ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gabrielthesingingpilot spoken word. Specifically with the schoeps M K4 capsule and Grace audio preamp I would love to hear that.

    • @gabrielthesingingpilot
      @gabrielthesingingpilot ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shingAMarie th-cam.com/video/L4iconuloy8/w-d-xo.html

  • @fishpotpete
    @fishpotpete ปีที่แล้ว

    I think most casual listeners would not have a clue anything was different. Nice set up? Yes. But the $600 one was totally acceptable. I think us musicans need to focus more on preformance and writting than the equipment.

  • @gaboonschoolofmusic9848
    @gaboonschoolofmusic9848 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Uad apollo is not the best interface in the world as you say ..try my burl b80 mothership and dude you cannot sing ..u87 is overated try a .Mojave ma 1000

  • @Daysofsamara
    @Daysofsamara 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It miss a pultec style eq in the chain. Boosting extremes of the spectrum, especially if you place the microphone at random

  • @fpa
    @fpa ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds like an advertisement of Sweetwater... guys, you could do it maybe not as evident ;)

  • @wyckofury2198
    @wyckofury2198 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We live in a digital world now. All that expensive analog equipment ends up being recorded as a digital signal. Best to get digital from the start because it’s designed to be recorded in digital format.

  • @jasper_north
    @jasper_north 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your singing is soooo funny,.. you dont pronounce the words but they are more like funny noises. I wish I could sing at all to be honest.

  • @HamsterGames
    @HamsterGames ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Harshness is the enemy of professional sounding music and the expensive Vocal chain kills all the harshness. Nice!

  • @TsunamiRecordz
    @TsunamiRecordz 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Take that warm audio out the chain and makesure ur using the 1073 good, and your mix with effects is off I would recommend working that eq alot better a u87 is a starting point u have to eq it.

  • @WOWMAN22
    @WOWMAN22 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cheaper was better

  • @damomani6905
    @damomani6905 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't believe you need all these equipment to make good music.....I found out the hard way though. Good room treatment and a good audio interface like Apollo twin is enough for pro sounding music....Once you make large amount of money then buy these hardware gears....even then it will improve the sound by only 5% - 10% I guess.