You literally just saved my business bruh. I was wondering why I was recording the "telephone effect" into my vocals. I didn't even need the high pass filter on 1073. Thanks
Nah filter up to the 160 notch and then add bass back in at 0.36 I turn it up to the dot right above 220. Watch you float . I set my mid band to 0.7 and turn it down to where the 1 and a half dots. To each their own tho but this what I do . I even turn my highs up 3 dots and I have the so called bright Tlm 103 .
What I usually do is use reso/soothe to lessen the resonance in the high end of the voice(like 8k+) that use an dynamic expander on the same frequency range so that way you bright top end without any resonance I’ll usually pair that with a MB on the low end to compress the boomness in the voice personally I wouldnt cut on the preamp I would just do it in post you get way more control Imo
You’re doing too much in my opinion. I think multiband on vocals is a mistake but that’s my two cents. Fucks with phase and tonality that you can do with an EQ with no dynamic bands.
@@bigstevedzn2353 Bruh I think you did not understand some stuff. Multiband is the best you can do on any signal. Also phasing can only happen with two signals. A mic/vocal take is a mono signal.
@@Neekzu yeah I was on one that day, but I stand by my take. Multi band (especially C6) just leaves the vocal undesirable. You should never really need a multi band compressor for anything. If you absolutely need it, you can try using dynamic eq. Pro-Q 3 is a Swiss Army knife.
Great video. Have you noticed that if you turn on the EQ, but leave everything at zero (flat), then there is a small high frequency roll off at about 20 kHz and the sound gets a little darker? I also have AMS 1073 (classic module) and when I turn on the EQ, but set everything to zero (flat), the sound gets a little darker in the "air" region. With eq disangaged sound is brighter. I heard that this is a 1073 design specifics, but I would like to ask if you noticed this too or with my unit something wrong? Judging by the video, the sound of your unit without EQ is also a bit brighter: eq on 1:52, eq off 1:56, eq on 2:02
That's a 1073 feature and really nice on tracks with bright transients, sharp vocals, or where you want to round things off. Works nice on drums too. To get some air back, use a MAAG.
Check out the buzz audio essence, its a really good alternative! Opto comp, kind of like a La-3a but invisible even with 10-15dB gain reduction. I use it for tracking everyday..
Peace bro I see a lot of people turning the output knob all the way up on the 1073, what’s the deal with that? & does it even make sense on the UAD emulation ?
personally I dont do it but some neve 1073 you can turn all the way up to get a full sound but mines gets too loud so I think its with the clones you can do that. and no I dont think you can get that with the bad version . thanks for watching 💪🏽
Bro, merry Christmas! I’ve been chasing after your gear brother lmaooo. I just got the U87 to match the 1073. Bro I was hearing MAD feedback when I was playing with the gain. You think that could fuck up the mic?
Nice Video Fam. could you do a direct comparison between the raw take of the UAD plugin vs SPX + the comparison in the final mix ? Im thinkin about buyin a spx too but i wanna get sure that this pricey gadget makes a hell of a difference otherwise i keep sticking to my uad plug :D
@@30killabeatz Thanks can you make it tutorial on how to do that cause I tried dialing it in after a recording & I didn’t hear any difference from my preamp.
@@GraitiGraiti oh ok if the small adjustments aren’t enough turn it up more and if your still not hearing a difference the your eq maybe broken and need to call and get a replacement
What's the difference between the Neve 1073 Spx W/ Eq vs. BAE 1073 w/ eq (Keep in mind that the bae version costs about double the price of the neve 1073 spx version) very curious about that
The bae 1073 is expensive because it’s made to be a clone to the original ones. It has the same transformers as the original and it use a huge power supply to make sure it reach those old vintage neve tone. The ams is new style neve, more modern style.. it still sound close but not close to the point were it’s like omggggg it’s the same thing…. There very similar in tone but you can hear a different… that why someone people get bae over ams because of they want the original sound …. Both good though
First mistake is to copy one’s settings. If you are not 100 PERCENT SURE what vocal sound you are going for, I wouldn’t even really touch the eq. The point of the EQ is to help sculpt a vocal before it even hits the daw. Minute, small changes are what you are going for. The possibility of turning the eq bands all the way up or down is enticing but you want a recorded vocal that is not too hot (loud) or permanently altered in a negative way.
I use the same U87 and 1073SPX but mainly for pop-punk vocals aka MGK, jxdn etc. but honetsly I don't know is my voice so or U87 sounds dolly, muffeld, boxy idk, like I'm singing under the pillow. Rock vocals same as Rap, R&B should be crispy and full of air, but no matter what I use the same U87 and 1073SPX but mainly for pop-punk vocals aka MGK, jxdn etc. but honetsly I don't know is my voice so or U87 sounds dolly, muffeld, boxy idk, like I'm singing under the pillow. Rock vocals same as Rap, R&B should be crispy and full of air, but no matter what, even after post production, it sounds weird. Any ideas sir?
lol not sure where they got vintage from but I guess they meant vintage by old program. its just changing the fact that your the notes won't be bending or flexing to the next note which is why a lot of people used autotune 5 and wouldn't upgrade so they made the classic button to give you that "vintage" of autotune 5 sound. Thanks for watching
Tf are you on about? Dr Dre absolutely had a vocal chain going into his $50,000 SSL Board. There's even an interview on his 50 Cent Mixes.. "I like my vocals to sound 'crystal,'" says Dre. "I use the Sony C800-G"...."and out of that into the Neve 1073 mic pre" "Avalon, We set the compression ratio around 7:1, I set it at a medium attack and fast release. I'd say we're using around 3 or 4 dB of compression, sometimes up to 7 dB. On 'In Da Club' it was about 4 or 5. Then it comes back into the SSL 4000 G"
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You literally just saved my business bruh. I was wondering why I was recording the "telephone effect" into my vocals. I didn't even need the high pass filter on 1073. Thanks
Nah filter up to the 160 notch and then add bass back in at 0.36 I turn it up to the dot right above 220. Watch you float . I set my mid band to 0.7 and turn it down to where the 1 and a half dots. To each their own tho but this what I do . I even turn my highs up 3 dots and I have the so called bright Tlm 103 .
What I usually do is use reso/soothe to lessen the resonance in the high end of the voice(like 8k+) that use an dynamic expander on the same frequency range so that way you bright top end without any resonance I’ll usually pair that with a MB on the low end to compress the boomness in the voice personally I wouldnt cut on the preamp I would just do it in post you get way more control Imo
Nice Settings! Yea those sounds like great options to get a good vocal. Thanks for watching gang! 💪🏽
bruh theres no reason not to cut like 50hz cause thats just boominess u will never need it, higher i personally wouldnt go tho
You’re doing too much in my opinion. I think multiband on vocals is a mistake but that’s my two cents. Fucks with phase and tonality that you can do with an EQ with no dynamic bands.
@@bigstevedzn2353 Bruh I think you did not understand some stuff. Multiband is the best you can do on any signal. Also phasing can only happen with two signals. A mic/vocal take is a mono signal.
@@Neekzu yeah I was on one that day, but I stand by my take. Multi band (especially C6) just leaves the vocal undesirable. You should never really need a multi band compressor for anything. If you absolutely need it, you can try using dynamic eq. Pro-Q 3 is a Swiss Army knife.
You really did shared some gems here men. Thanks.
love this guy! easy to understand and knows what he is talking about!
Your room sounds amazing too bro! Can't count that out. Great video!
Thank you! Thanks for watching! 💪🏽
You can tell this guy is a real dude.
Thanks for watching gang 💪🏽
Great video. Have you noticed that if you turn on the EQ, but leave everything at zero (flat), then there is a small high frequency roll off at about 20 kHz and the sound gets a little darker? I also have AMS 1073 (classic module) and when I turn on the EQ, but set everything to zero (flat), the sound gets a little darker in the "air" region. With eq disangaged sound is brighter.
I heard that this is a 1073 design specifics, but I would like to ask if you noticed this too or with my unit something wrong? Judging by the video, the sound of your unit without EQ is also a bit brighter:
eq on 1:52, eq off 1:56, eq on 2:02
That's a 1073 feature and really nice on tracks with bright transients, sharp vocals, or where you want to round things off. Works nice on drums too. To get some air back, use a MAAG.
how do you put prerecorded vocals into the Neve 1073?
AMS NEVE 1073 DPA and 1073 SPX ，how to choose？Thx
Great video brotha. I’m starting over after getting out. This helped out a lot no joke. Def bout to check your page out
why u didnt test preamp gain for how strong signal is that why u r using it ?
Great tip on the Classic Mode.
Thanks for watching! 💪🏽
Bro how do you record your videos? Software, camera, mic, audio interface and all the info you can provide. Thanks
When i'm recording with my UAD plugins i get alot of latency. Im using protools and my interface is the protools carbon, is it anyway around that?
Can you do a review on Eden Lt386?
Sure! Ill look into it gang Thanks for watching💪🏽
Great video! I have the Apollo but Mannnn ain’t nothing like the real hardware!!! I have the Neve 5211 and I love it. Wish I had a real CL1B though
Nice and yea makes a huge difference! and yea make here man my dream compressor! Thanks for watching! 💪🏽
Check out the buzz audio essence, its a really good alternative! Opto comp, kind of like a La-3a but invisible even with 10-15dB gain reduction. I use it for tracking everyday..
Peace bro I see a lot of people turning the output knob all the way up on the 1073, what’s the deal with that? & does it even make sense on the UAD emulation ?
personally I dont do it but some neve 1073 you can turn all the way up to get a full sound but mines gets too loud so I think its with the clones you can do that. and no I dont think you can get that with the bad version . thanks for watching 💪🏽
Bro, merry Christmas! I’ve been chasing after your gear brother lmaooo. I just got the U87 to match the 1073. Bro I was hearing MAD feedback when I was playing with the gain. You think that could fuck up the mic?
Turn your gain down. Make sure you have high quality cables and if you have the studio speakers on...just make sure you turn it off if your mic is on.
great video brother! plan on getting neve hardware soon!
Worth every penny!!! Thanks for watching 💪🏽💪🏽
So either ur in a sound proof area or ur killing out extra noise lol my 1073 got me hearing everything in my apt 😅😅😅
Oh yea Primeacoustic London 12s and 4 extra bass traps
I saw u use a gate as well so imma add that appreciate all the work bro
@@harpoleon6806 yes in this video I did use a gate. Thanks for watching 💪🏽
Nice Video Fam. could you do a direct comparison between the raw take of the UAD plugin vs SPX + the comparison in the final mix ? Im thinkin about buyin a spx too but i wanna get sure that this pricey gadget makes a hell of a difference otherwise i keep sticking to my uad plug :D
Definitely been thinkin about that video for a long time! Coming soon! Thanks for watching 💪🏽💪🏽
@@30killabeatz appreciate it homie. Keep up that great content 💪🏽
QUICK QUESTION CAN YOU DIAL IN THE EQ SETTINGS AFTER YOU RECORD OR ONLY DURING LEVEL TESTING? (PREAMP)?
You can do both and use the preamp as a plugin if you like. Thanks for watching ✊🏽
@@30killabeatz Thanks can you make it tutorial on how to do that cause I tried dialing it in after a recording & I didn’t hear any difference from my preamp.
@@GraitiGraiti yea I make small adjustments but are you using the same ams neve 1073 or clone?
@@30killabeatz The actually Neve 1073,not the clone
@@GraitiGraiti oh ok if the small adjustments aren’t enough turn it up more and if your still not hearing a difference the your eq maybe broken and need to call and get a replacement
What's the difference between the Neve 1073 Spx W/ Eq vs. BAE 1073 w/ eq (Keep in mind that the bae version costs about double the price of the neve 1073 spx version) very curious about that
The bae 1073 is expensive because it’s made to be a clone to the original ones. It has the same transformers as the original and it use a huge power supply to make sure it reach those old vintage neve tone.
The ams is new style neve, more modern style.. it still sound close but not close to the point were it’s like omggggg it’s the same thing….
There very similar in tone but you can hear a different… that why someone people get bae over ams because of they want the original sound …. Both good though
Would these settings work good with the tlm 49
First mistake is to copy one’s settings. If you are not 100 PERCENT SURE what vocal sound you are going for, I wouldn’t even really touch the eq. The point of the EQ is to help sculpt a vocal before it even hits the daw. Minute, small changes are what you are going for. The possibility of turning the eq bands all the way up or down is enticing but you want a recorded vocal that is not too hot (loud) or permanently altered in a negative way.
What a Vid. Many thanks bro.
can you make a boom bap template for pro tools
I gotchu gang. Thanks for watching!
The best settings is to give me the mic That's What's Up
(U87)
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Thank you
NO problem! Thanks for watching💪🏽
I use the same U87 and 1073SPX but mainly for pop-punk vocals aka MGK, jxdn etc. but honetsly I don't know is my voice so or U87 sounds dolly, muffeld, boxy idk, like I'm singing under the pillow. Rock vocals same as Rap, R&B should be crispy and full of air, but no matter what I use the same U87 and 1073SPX but mainly for pop-punk vocals aka MGK, jxdn etc. but honetsly I don't know is my voice so or U87 sounds dolly, muffeld, boxy idk, like I'm singing under the pillow. Rock vocals same as Rap, R&B should be crispy and full of air, but no matter what, even after post production, it sounds weird.
Any ideas sir?
Try out that 7.2k frequency on your neve 1073 should help you get that crispiness or open it up some. Thanks for watching !
…is the mic backwards?
You don’t add reverd?
Not while I’m recording no. Thanks for watching!
Pre Amp sounded better with the EQ off
you forgot to turn on the “youknowwhatimsaying” filter, youknowwhatimsaying…
Right! You know what I’m saying! Lol Thanks for watching
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classic sound is for vintage sound I thought? Why is every one telling different stuff sbout autotune settings tf 😂
lol not sure where they got vintage from but I guess they meant vintage by old program. its just changing the fact that your the notes won't be bending or flexing to the next note which is why a lot of people used autotune 5 and wouldn't upgrade so they made the classic button to give you that "vintage" of autotune 5 sound. Thanks for watching
Recording with all those affects baked in.. not for me bro!
Dr. Dre didn’t need no vocal chain.
Tf are you on about? Dr Dre absolutely had a vocal chain going into his $50,000 SSL Board. There's even an interview on his 50 Cent Mixes..
"I like my vocals to sound 'crystal,'" says Dre. "I use the Sony C800-G"...."and out of that into the Neve 1073 mic pre"
"Avalon, We set the compression ratio around 7:1, I set it at a medium attack and fast release. I'd say we're using around 3 or 4 dB of compression, sometimes up to 7 dB. On 'In Da Club' it was about 4 or 5. Then it comes back into the SSL 4000 G"
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