John Irving Especially because Sunnis think that their beloved Uthman, Aisha, and Muawiyah did not commit atrocities by their own hands. All three of them opposed Imam Ali ibn Abu Talib of their own will. The Khawarij existed as the hypocrites. Hyocrites cannot conceal themselves in front of Imam Ali ibn Abu Talib.
we elected Ali and islam isnt a dynastical religion so why did the shiatis look to hasan instead of the most capable like they should have thats what ruined the caliphates relatives of leaders should never take office only after or before utman failed with that
501 KrKr I have many Sunni friends who love Imam Ali and take refuge against his enemies. Those are not the Sunnis I'm talking about. Those aren't the Sunnis who have cognitive dissonance. How can ome love equally Imam Ali ibn Abu Talib and those who have died fighting him?
Mehdi Alzghoul Imam Ali (after already living as Amir ul Momineen as soon as life left the body of the Prophet) was undoubtedly elected as a worldly ruler by the masses-- unlike the first who was elected by a few tribe leaders, and the second who was given Caliphate by the first, and the third who was elected by a majority of a council of six. Muawiyah ruined Caliphate, which was already broken fyi, and that is a fact of history. Imam Hasan exposed the aristocrats who had given up faith in Divine governance.
501 KrKr The innocent blood of thousands was shed because of purely personal squabble? That is not the teachings of the Holy Prophet and what you say is an insult to the oppressed, to the one whose rights were being usurped. Every person who shook the hands of the Prophet did not become his companion-Surah Munafiqoon's first verse makes that clear. Not to mention Imam Ali was not just a companion, but someone who the Prophet raised, slept with, crushed hard foods for so it would be easy for Imam Ali to swallow, and was made his brother when the Mohajir reached Medina, among many other things. Reason with reality.
Extremely interesting, especially for a non-Moslem's point of view. Like some scholars have noticed, Ali was a far more spiritual person than his enemies. The problem is he might not have had the political skills necessary. Politics is a dirty business, and Ali wasn't dirty.
It was a bad time, very bad time to manage things. Especially when there are those who pretend to support you, but plot against you. Them khawarij tried to assassinate Muawiya and Amer too, but failed
I am Shia, Is NOT true what you say brother . Today Shia people dont worship Ali. Only Allah is worthy of such praise.The propaganda that many of the Shias nowadays they worship Ali and his sons. That is propaganda that SUNNIS OF The house of saud tell is not true. The Saudi Royal Family Are Crypto-Jews
peymas Shia people are around 7% of the Muslim world. Do you really think that 93% of Muslims are wrong and only 7% are right??? Our prophet said: "My Umma does not gather on something wrong"
peymas Brother i read your books and the fundamental belief on which Islam based Is tauwheed ......But Your main stream Scholars Consider the fundamental belief is imama,........Quran said if someone go against tauwheed he commit shirk But Your Scholers said if some one dont consider Ali R.A as First imam and associated partners in walaya commit shirk.....So now tell me who is wrong ......Please read your own book... The worst Concept that your Scholars initiated is Rajat.....Go and read the tafseer of Chapter 27 Verse 82 of your Ulama about rajat concept which is totally go against Quran and hadith .......No one will be raised alive from the grave Until the day of Judgment but your Scholars said Ali R.A will be raised from his grave and then he will raised first three caliph from their graves along with Aisha R.A and then Ali R.A will take revenge .........Does this make sense ?
***** it is not about majority or Minority But about the Scale which measure that who is wrong and who is right ........And in Islam Quran is the book which will decide who is Wrong and who is right ....am i correct ?
This is a beautiful series; thanks for giving this such a thorough and engaging treatment. I've been interested in Middle Eastern and Islamic history for a while, and it's frustrating how limited the typical Westerner is in their understanding of it. Hopefully videos like this can help to ameliorate that...
+Coldwine It is a beautiful series for sure. I think I'd be one of those limited typical westerner you speak of. I'm well versed in European history as it pertains to me most directly and I think thats really more a human thing as the majority would naturally focus on our relative historical locality. I wonder how many in the middle east know anything about the history of my country, Ireland. I'd say very few. I'd love to see something like this taught in schools in both west and east. Hell just employ Shirvan, he deserves the position and praise.
+RenovatioJuris Yes, it definitely should! And it's fine to be ignorant; as you've said, everyone is ignorant to some degree. My biggest problem with Westerners is that they tend to read crap history *cough* Bat Ye'or *cough*, adopt a strident and farcical narrative which treats the Middle East as Mordor, and then dismiss anyone who presents a nuanced, sane critique as part of some grand conspiracy. I don't think that that applies to you at all xP And you're right about people in the Middle East and Western history in general. Slavery discussions are a good example of this: Westerners and Muslims almost always end up talking past one another because the institution of slavery in both cultures was implemented so differently, and neither person usually understands that.
Oh how I dream of the day that quality like this is the standard of all nations television programming. There would be no place or excuse for ignorance. Thank you very much for your content, it has taught me a lot about a otherwise under appreciated part of the world.
+RenovatioJuris Well, Irish history has more available materials and sources than Islamic subjects. The purpose behind these videos is to answer the questions on the origins of Islamic traditions and mindsets. However, I understand your point. If there was mutual understanding and knowledge we would have less animosity.
Dont blame The west on your basic knowledge. You can just go to a library or the internet and read about the subject. Besides, I think westerners are the less biased when it comes to history to the point where we portray ourselves as mordor. Muslims dont even separate their history from their religon.
yeah, apparently he lost his life and the whole caliphate. he was an incompetent leader but a good soldier. mu awiah knew how diplomacy works. uthman ruined the caliphate and Ali couldn't manage to repair the damage... none the less all of these people and these things were part of political issues over who has the power.. Mohammad was not a messenger of god, he was a leader and that's it... when you kill your opposition or tax them no wonder your religion gains many followers..
+somebody Ali never lost a battle. even in the war of khandaq when he was the only one who dare to face amr ibn abdowad. Ali was the best ruller,Just like Prophet him self. He tried to renew teachings of prophet. but elite arabs who gained too much money and power in the reign of omar and othman did not want justice. people like talha and zubair gathered an army behind ayisha and went to a war with him. people like muawia who wanted to create their own monarchy opposed Ali. the reason why Ali's rule did not take much long was because he wanted to bring back justice. because he opposed royality.
+somebody if u say Mohammad(PBUH) was not a massenger, then u didn't read Quran. no one could say such thing but God himself. just google Quran's scintific facts, and u will find the truth. Btw, prophet Mohammad(pbuh) fought many wars and muslims army only killed about 1000 man in those wars. they never killed children or women. prophet said any captive who teach 10 muslim how to read is free. he even spared those who fought him many times when he conquared Mecca.
Dude Prophet Mohammad (S) pbuh literally split the moon, God showed this miracle even his harshest of enemies saw this and couldn't believe it. Many of his followers testified of seeing this. It is not in the video but Prophet also told the leader of the Khawarij that he will die at the hands of ali and he did. He said uthman will die reading the Quran and that's exactly how he died. People like Abu Bakr and Uthman would not follow some imposter. Prophet Mohammad was a true messenger of god. Him splitting the moon is bigger then any miracle moses or jesus did. 1. Read how he performed miracles just like prophet jesus sunnah.org/history/miracles_of_Prophet.htm
2.Read How Prophet Mohammad Foretold future events or told prophecy and how they came true exactly how he said www.answering-christianity.com/prophecies_by_prophet_muhammad.htm
3. Read about the life of the prophet and the good things he did, how it cannot be the work of a madman or liar howtobeahappymuslim.com/?p=1217 and this incident which shows how he forgave people even after being stoned imamjohari.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/the-prophet-muhammad-pbuh-the-lessons-of-non-violent-resistance-at-at-taif/ then read how those same people of taif waged war against the prophet and when the prophet went to attack their castle how he couldn't even bring himself to destroy their garden because the people in castle started to get upset and crying. Imagine he couldn't even bring himself to destroy the garden of the same people who stoned him and his son earlier! Does that honestly sound like some kind of a manipulative liar,warmonger or madman?! Please! www.al-islam.org/the-message-ayatullah-jafar-subhani/chapter-50-battle-taif after watching the videos and reading the article I would like to Invite you to to Islam. It is the true religion and way of life. May Allah Guide you.
سليل المجد apologies, only just got to the end. Its as criminal as it is ignorant of YT to do this. This is the kind of channel it needs more of as its already mostly brain dead nonsense.
I was hoping you would talk about the *Khawarij*, it seemed that only Muslims knew them and they were invisible to the western world. So it was very nice of you to mention them. I have to say the way you portrayed Mu'awiya's motives were pretty Shia based but *nonetheless all Muslims would agree that Ali was the rightful Caliph at the time*.
Jon B In short; Muawiya was from the same tribe as Uthman and so he wanted Uthman to be revenged immediately, when he saw Ali was postponing the trial he felt Ali was not fit to rule and that he would be the better leader. He wanted justice and he wanted it immediately. Although that was a mistake on his part it had nothing to do with him being a corrupt governor and extorting the populace for money. Nor was it because he thought It was an impossible task. When he declared himself the leader of the Muslims he believed he would be better for the people than Ali
+KizaruD While Ali sought justice, Muawiya pursued politics. Every move Muawiya pursued was for political gain and not for the sake of justice, and that is the way history is documented. Muawiya, son of Abu Sufyan (the eternal enemy of Muhammad), and father of Yazid (illegitmate ruler who slaughter Hussayn grandson of Muhammad) had no claim to the throne and broke his treaty made with Hasan son of Ali, that was mentioned at the end of this video. Keep in mind Yazid being a drunkard and womanizer whose tryanny eventually was the cause of the Ummayad Dynasty; Muawiya desire to put his son in power was not for justice, but for preserving political power, a common theme among his actions. Seriously though, who puts a holy scripture on the spear in the middle of a battle. Is that justice? My goodness.
+KizaruD shia are known to lie alot and fabricate history 90% of their history is lies. Shia scholors today admit they fabricated story of Umar(ra) killing Fathima(ra) it was a shia lie to create anti Sunni propaganda
Even as a hindu I say curse the Khawarji. They killed Caliph and then brought chaos and then still called everyone else as disbeliever and going to hell. sooo strange and hypocritical
Rajarshi Roy this times effect is still of Mislims theology today....if they would have some how resolved the issue ..... Muslims would be in a much better positions.
Beautifully done, as an Arab studying this time period from the original sources i have to congratulate you on the historical accuracy of this video, keep up the good work
This is highly interesting. And well presented. No unnecessary comentaries, no personal or corporate opinions on it, just flat historical important events described at a nice pace.
I feel sad for Ali . I hope God restores Justice, and that too gloriously, for the Ahlul bayt. May peace be upon Muhammad, Khadija, Fatima, Ali, Hassan and Hussain
This series is incredible. The parallel between ancient politics and modern politics is really eye opening, its great that history can be explained so vividly and interestingly!
Beautiful series! I urge anyone confused about the religion and history of Islam to watch this! Thank you as I learned so much from these and are my top favorite videos regarding history. I love all your other videos for that matter too. thanks 😁
Perfect and very informative. I just want to clarify that most (if not all) of the Sunnis scholars during history believe that Ali's claims were right as well as the Shias did when Ali was alive. The issue with many of the Shias nowadays that they worship Ali and his sons and consider them as infallible and similar to gods; the thing that leads to pagan rituals. Other normal Muslims believe that Ali and his sons were just heroes, relatives of Muhammad, and normal humans like anyone else..
+Zedek First they budded in line when God was handing out the larger penises, and then they later showed up to kill the Caliph. Egyptians - always trying to raid everyone else's fun.
+Zedek Those Khawarij who ruined it for everyone were the political tool of Muawiya. While Ali's quest from the outset was justice, Muawiya's was political gain. Keep in mind that Muawiya was the son of Abu Sufyan, the eternal enemy of the Prophet Muhammad; he was also the father of Yazid, the usurper tyrant behind the slaughter of Husain grandson of Muhammad. You will see this in the next episode most likely, history could not be more clear.
+Sownd Knowle-edge enough shia nonscense, this video has much historical inaccuracies its told mostly from shia point of view. For example even shia scholors admit they fabricated the story of Umar(ra) killing fathima as a ploy against Sunnis. So shia history is 99% lies and full of fabrications
Mohamed Mo their was much slant for example Aisha(ra) did not set out to fight Ali(ra) but to talk to him about getting justice for Uthman(ra) and their were infiltrators in Ali(ra) ranks who started the battle of the Camel not her. Also that bit about Umar(ra) killing 'fathima' what a disgusting lie, shites made many such lies to try to and destroy the Sunnah and put doubt in the Quran. The shia claim Umar and Uthman(ra) etc corrupted the Quran. So no scholors in past all 4 great imams declared Shia are liars and deviant their history is false
These videos are so helpful! And enlightening. Thanks so much for making them for us Westerners to become educated in the history of Islam. Priceless to us!
+Tristar Gym Hi Tristar, (a bit) like Caspian Report I am making videos about international affairs. The style is a bit different though. I am trying as hard as possible to make good videos, but I do not have many people to watch them. As you love Caspian Report I think that maybe you could be interested by my channel! Anyway, I would be soooo glad if you could have a look and tell me what you think!
Shirvan your presentation is terrific, & I really found it interesting & educational watching all these episodes. Thanks to you & your team for doing such a good job!!
Hey great video! Thanks for uploading it I had been waiting for a long time for it! I wonder why TH-cam has to poke their nose in you're business the people deserve to know about all of this! Thanks again! :D
thank you brother for this programme. it is very educational. you can see that some of the problems we face today in islam are not from the orginal message of the prophet (pbuh) but people after him.
Another good video, I'm heading straight to Patreon and looking forward to your next one. I'm curious as to what excuse " the great Goo-Golathon " has for de-monetising Caspian Report, this is happening more and more, and while I can understand the politically inconvenient getting switched off, this is TV broadcast safe, I could happily recommend it to my mother, unlike some of the other videos I watch. I look to these videos for an interesting and informative overview, and I can't fathom what possible legitimate reason they might have for their actions.
+CaspianReport it was not called Mesopotamia at that time , records from the Islamic time show people call it "Iraq" & it was inhabited by Arabs thousands of years before Islam eg the Lakhmids..great Vid BTW looking forward for the next episodes
+CaspianReport yo caspian you should beware of the shia historical slant, for example even many shia scholors admit the story of Umar(ra) killing fathimia was a Shia lie a fabrication to defame the sunni rulers. Shia history is full of lies and deception
I love your history series. it opens the eyes of many to historic realities that are otherwise only domain of scholars. I look forward to your next installment. it will also clarify many doubts for non Muslims on the history and the context for today's radicalism that is not part of Islam.
Awesome video Sirvan! Would love to support you on your website.. And F*ckin TH-cam man, it should be the other way around, they should support your work for the good that it would do to enlighten people on those very "sensitive" subjects!! Can't wait for the final part :)
7:42 Ali (as) did not fight aisha, aisha fought him, she fought the rightly guided khalifa of her time, the one who was granted heaven. where quran ordered the wives of the Prophet (pbuh) to stay home after the Prophet (pbuh).
Faz 786 salaam. Thnx for pointing out the Quranic edict. But most of the claimants of Islam don't know the real Islam and the genuine leaders appointed by Allah swt. The majority just follow the propaganda of the powerful and the conquers blindly!
Oh, btw you forgot the wives of the prophet (saw) are also his wives in the afterlife including Aisha ( may Allah's peace be upon her) and she was the prophet (saw), favorite person. And Ali ( May Allah's peace be upon him) was in the right, but Ayesha ( May Allah's peace be upon her) had good intension.
@@No_Name_left ohh what a hood intention that made her rage the first muslim-muslim war in history how about if she had bad intentions what would she do?
Thank you very much for this expertly delivered and highly informed historical series. It is quite refreshing to have a completely objective and unbiased view on these historical events that are so greatly affecting the world today. Please continue your good work!
While Ali took the side of the poor and unfortunate Aisha took the side of the rich and the oppressors. I don't insult Aisha but wasn't it the prophet who said "Who ever loves Ali I love and who ever hates Ali I hate". Then why did Aisha took up arms against Ali.
+meisam gholami If you do further reading, you will know that after all the mess Aisha did, she repented at the end and regretted that she went against Ali. They didn't remain enemies for ever. They made peace eventually
sheikh abou The Prophet said that his daughter is the Leader of all the women in the Alameen-Aisha is a woman by the way. The Prophet also said that there would be no equal for his daughter without Ali. Don't compare the light of Allah with the light we create ourselves.
I haven't watched the video yet, but I just came here to like it because I know it will be an excellent and informative video. I'll watch it tomorrow when i have more time. Keep up the great work!
Ali (RA) was a devout Muslim, had brilliant intellect and wits, amazing soldier and outstanding strategist and campaigner but a politician he was not. He refused to the play the game of politics and in fact hated it. This was his undoing. His decision to pardon the murderers of Uthman (RA) triggered the Ummayyad insurrection that spit the Caliphate and would ultimately lead to his own assassination. Funny thing is that Ali crushed the rebellion yet didn't execute the Ummayyads and his chief rival Muawiya who'd go on to assassinate him and his sons.
He did good by not executing Muawiya. And as far I know,Muwayia didn’t kill Ali or conspired his killing.Yazid,Muawiya's son is still a bad face in sunni Islam.however,The Umayyads did a lot for the muslims afterwards.The caliphate of cordoba was a great caliphate.
Hey buddy, great videos. By the way, it's "respectively", not "respectfully". So, for example: "they received sentences of one year and eight months respectively".
+CaspianReport Since were on the topic of fixes, could you consider speeding up your videos. I usually watch at 1.5x regular speed and you still sound perfectly coherent .
Hi. I am muslim. And I want to tell you all that the given information is not correct according to Islamic historical resources. I would highly recommend to everyone that you learn islamic history from the point of Islam
The difference between Abu Baker, Omar, Osman and Ali is that Ali saved slaves like Meisam e tamar a persian slave. But the others kept many slaves. Omar was even killed by his own slave. It shows how superior Ali was compared to them
+Nebuchadnezzar II Muhammad (saw) kept these men as companions, men he trusted. Do you believe your opinion of these men, who lived a thousand years before you, overrules that of the prophet's judgement?
+Dnt Wry read sura 9 and verse 101 of the Quran it states "Among the Arabs around you there are hypocrites. Also, among the city dwellers, there are those who are accustomed to hypocrisy". If prophet may peace be upon him and his family knew all the heart of the people around him the why did god send this sura.
+Abdulahi Mohamed Omar was killed by his persian slave this shows you lack of knowledge in the Islamic history please read Bokhari the greatest Sunni scholar
+Abdulahi Mohamed everyone knows that Bilal the first black Muslim was freed by the prophet peace be upon him. How dare you to say something the prophet has done that Abu baker has done just to make him sound good.
+Abdulahi Mohamed al Mughirah gave the slave to Omar as a gift. Look at what all the major scholars have to say about this subject and they all agree at that time Omar Owen the slave. Read Bukhari
one true leader, another who wants wealth and group of outlaws who murdered uthman. first one is destined to be killed , good people dies in that way usually. second guy lives, people who wants wealth enjoys this worlds only. third kind, they are the worst ones, sadly such people always in this world. what a tragedy. now i understood the Islamic books i have read when i was a child.
+Secularization Mordernization Maybe I did not say it clearly. I read a lot of literature related to Islam when I was a child, I did not go to islamic school or any center, I just read it during winter when I cant go outside to play. These books and names of people in it are too long and too many for 7-10 years old of me. Islamic school maybe bad somewhere, maybe good somewhere also, don't blame islamic school, people are responsible.
Alimjan Yasin What I was trying to say is, if someone was to be put in an Islamic school, then this school would either be for Sunnis or for Shias and they will brainwash you accordingly. I as a kid attended a Quran school. This was best because all we did was recite the Quran and memorize chapters of it, that's all. With no further bias from a any sect. Wtf is an Islamic school anyways? Do they have different scientific theories established? lol jst being sarcastic
With all due respect this video is extremely biased against Muway (R).This is only from the point of view of the shia. If you read any non Muslim historian during that time they always describe Muawiya as a just and kind king. Which doesn't at all match what the shias say about him. Truth is Ali (R) was a great leader but he failed to unite the muslim ummah. But Muaway was able to do that and he also respected Ali. If he wanted he could have killed Ali but that was never his intention that's why he talked about peace treaty. Here is a non muslim historians description of Muawiya John bar Penkaye, 67-68 AH / 687 CE. Little is known about John bar Penkaye. He was a native of Fenek in north-western Mesopotamia and a resident of the monastery of John Kamul. It was in this monastery he wrote Ktābā d-rīš mellē ("Book of the Salient Points") and dedicated it to a person called Sabrisho‘, the abbott of this convent.[37] In his book John bar Penkaye wrote the chronicle of the world from Creation to his present day which he calls as the "severe chastisement of today".[38] His work seeks to treat the salient points of history in a brief fashion. For the issue which concerns us here, it is discussed in the fifteenth and the last chapter, where the Arab conquests and the devastating famine and plague of 67 AH / 686-67 CE are mentioned.[39] Concerning Muhammad, John bar Penkaye says that: Having let their dispute run its course, after much fighting had taken place between them, the Westerners, whom they call the sons of ’Ammāyē, gained the victory, and one of their number, a man called M‘awyā [i.e., Mu‘awiya], became king controlling the two kingdoms, of the Persians and of the Byzantines. Justice flourished in his time, and there was great peace in the regions under his control; he allowed everyone to live as they wanted. For they held, as I have said above, an ordinance, stemming from the man who was their guide (mhaddyānā), concerning the people of the Christians and concerning the monastic station. Also as a result of this man's guidance (mhaddyānūtā) they held to the worship of One God, in accordance with the customs of ancient law. At the beginnings they kept to the traditions (mašlmānūtā) of Muḥammad,who was their instructor (tā’rā).
Muawiyah was setting up a ploy? Source? Many not only Muawiyah demanded revenge for Othmans death, the main grievance was Ali's inability to even say he wants to catch the people who caused his death. You narrated this over a shia lense rather than an unbiased lense telling both stories, you pretty much waved off the other sides story as just a "ploy". Otherwise most of it was well made but prefer no biased attitudes.
+Iberion Baratheon While Ali sought justice, Muawiya pursued politics. Every move Muawiya pursued was for political gain and not for the sake of justice, and that is the way history is documented. Muawiya, son of Abu Sufyan (the eternal enemy of Muhammad), and father of Yazid (illegitmate ruler who slaughter Hussayn grandson of Muhammad) had no claim to the throne and broke his treaty made with Hasan son of Ali, that was mentioned at the end of this video. Keep in mind Yazid being a drunkard and womanizer whose tryanny eventually was the cause of the Ummayad Dynasty; Muawiya desire to put his son in power was not for justice, but for preserving political power, a common theme among his actions. Seriously though, who puts a holy scripture on the spear in the middle of a battle. Is that justice? My goodness.
+Sownd Knowle-edge there is no throne or dynasty in Islam. I may be a minority here but I view uthman as a naive pious and somewhat a liar. he said he would not stray from the ways of Umar and Abu Bakr yet he appointed his relatives in high ranks a didn't cycle the governors after he took the office. he did what he knew best and preyed for the best. the shias didn't care about anyone. they didn't hold a Shura counsel to elect a new caliph, established Ali line as the new monarch and expect the entire muslim world to bow their head and accept it? both sides were wrong imo. I'm not sunni or Shia just a Muslim that thinks for himself. try not to take some imam or aalim version of history and look it up yourself
+Introvert Wolf thnx for your input sir... I am no Shia or Sunni either. Just a Muslims with no other titles and I only believe in one book which is the Quran ONLY, and everything else is history and should be treated as such. I agree with your comment to some extent. Uthman ruled for 12 years, his first 6 years of rule were great, however his last 6 years was when Uthman became old and unable to make clear judgments and I as well as many scholars perceive it as him being very naive and disastrous. Uthman was originally a very successful business man and that's what he knew best and he ruled the Caliphate in a business point of perspective. He messed up I got to say! However, I cannot turn a blind eye to his stance with Prophet Mohammad since the very early days. I am in no position to judge but I'll let Allah do the judgment
+2sunami sorry if I sounded rude. I have nothing but respect for uthman he is a companion and clearly did everything with pure intentions. it just talking about how the Rashidun caliphate ended make my blood boil :(
the people with ali were not called shias , they were muslims that read the quran , sadly now shias say this quran is made up or not true , ali's "shia" believed in the quran and that aisha is the mother of the faithful . i would call myself a shiate for that , but nowadays shias don't believe in the quran neither do they believe that aisha is even a good human being , this video is very good .
Whoa, whoa, whoa there, Shirvan of Caspian Report! How do we really know that some of these specifics happened? How do we really know that "members of the mob" infiltrated the armies of Ali and Aisha to conspiratorially cause chaos and mayhem? To me, this sounds like some kind of apologist window-dressing, to canonize and exculpate the beloved Ali and Aisha, to make them sound like they could do no wrong - when in fact their own negligence and petty egos may have directly caused the outbreak of war. The "mob" may be some classic scapegoat conveniently erected to make Ali and Aisha both look perfectly innocent. In other words, you seem to be telling the story in a very intimate first-person way, as if you had traveled back in time to originally witness the events firsthand. How/why should I trust your narrative? What do you know that everybody else doesn't?
2sunami Uhh, documented by whom? What was their objectivity? "Analyse" is a word - give us a transparent analysis, citing your sources and how you came about your interpretations. Otherwise, the "analysis" I'm hearing sounds a lot like political spin.
we have the epic of Gilgamesh documented since 2000BC. If documenting events was possible in that time, why wouldn't it be possible in like 700AD? There was historians who lived near the time of these events and documented them. Anyways,,, referring to your first comment... From my point of view I see that Aisha was wrong for going out against the legitimate elected Caliph (Ali). She should have waited for him to settle the assassination issue of Uthman by himself! Ali had bigger problems to deal and he preferred to settle these problems and pursue Uthman's assassins after. However, Aisha wanted it immediately and she was damn serious about it to the point that she led an army against Ali for this purpose. That only made Ali's problems bigger giving him unnecessary headache on top of the headache Muawiyah was giving him. It was obvious that Muawiyah wanted to coup the caliphate and he succeeded eventually. Aisha lived the rest of her life regretting that she opposed Ali.
I think that because these are religious figures, there's a whole lot of incentive for the faithful to put spin on their actions, and make them more palatable - like a Hollywood movie. In real life, real history doesn't always have everyone behaving perfectly nobly, or being tragically misunderstood, etc.
+manofsan I have to agree here, Shirvan. This piece lacks sources, but most important of all, it fails to do what you always do so well: show how complicated power can be since every power follows an own agenda. The portrayal of Muahwiyah is interesting and human, but both Ali and Aisha seem to come no blame, and we get the Khawarij to blame for everything that went wrong in early Islam. In general these series on early Islam have been very interesting, but what I like so much about your videos is showing how everyone is human, cultures make you biased towards stuff, and how powers chase their own agenda. I presume you have personal reasons to be either mild or forgiving towards early Islam, and I can see things through that lens, but the portrayal of the Khawarij as the (successful) will of the devil into breaking the ummah goes a too far. Besides that, thank you for always giving an interesting perspective on things.
daminanlil no he wasn't . ab lulu was clearly majoosi (Zorostrain fire worshipper) . No muslim would kill caliph of islam . if he was muslim he was faking it he even stabbed himself after backstabbing umar during prayer
As a hindu this is very interesting because most of our god's stories are less of human stories and more magical and legend-ish which makes it unrelatable
ImperialEarthEmpire Had this actually been pro-Shia, never would a sentence like Muawiya, who was lower than a savage, checkmating anyone would maje it into the video.
As a non Muslim I understood that Ali was always the best person to lead Islam after Muhammad. Though Abu Bakkar and Umar performed their duty well, from Uthman things went wrong. His followers were selfish elites who did dirty politics to dethrone Ali. Wish fortune had favoured Ali and his followers.
Abdulahi Mohamed So what if the adulteress accursed Aisha was the prophet's wife??? Haven't you heard of prophet Noah's wife??? I can't respect a woman that killed more than one thousand Muslim in one day.
Even though I'm not a Muslim, this certainly is an interesting series about the history of Islam. Keep up the good work!
OnceUponAtimeThereWasAyoutubeUserWithAlongName 1992 yes it is
Wow. HBO should just stop doing game of thrones. and start doing game of islam. This is crazy
Aisha as Mother of Camels.
lo@@kimisahaja3551 loll
Yes
Ahahaha no.
You'll be seeing another Charles Hebdo in HBO offices. That's playing with fire.
@@kimisahaja3551 who are you to curse the mother of the believers. May Allah’s wrath be upon those who do so.
"Every sinner is a non-believer" wtf? The Khwarji were the biggest sinners
The Khawarij.. Now there's some illuminati level conspiracy right there.
John Irving Especially because Sunnis think that their beloved Uthman, Aisha, and Muawiyah did not commit atrocities by their own hands. All three of them opposed Imam Ali ibn Abu Talib of their own will. The Khawarij existed as the hypocrites. Hyocrites cannot conceal themselves in front of Imam Ali ibn Abu Talib.
we elected Ali and islam isnt a dynastical religion so why did the shiatis look to hasan instead of the most capable like they should have thats what ruined the caliphates relatives of leaders should never take office only after or before utman failed with that
501 KrKr I have many Sunni friends who love Imam Ali and take refuge against his enemies. Those are not the Sunnis I'm talking about. Those aren't the Sunnis who have cognitive dissonance.
How can ome love equally Imam Ali ibn Abu Talib and those who have died fighting him?
Mehdi Alzghoul Imam Ali (after already living as Amir ul Momineen as soon as life left the body of the Prophet) was undoubtedly elected as a worldly ruler by the masses-- unlike the first who was elected by a few tribe leaders, and the second who was given Caliphate by the first, and the third who was elected by a majority of a council of six.
Muawiyah ruined Caliphate, which was already broken fyi, and that is a fact of history. Imam Hasan exposed the aristocrats who had given up faith in Divine governance.
501 KrKr The innocent blood of thousands was shed because of purely personal squabble? That is not the teachings of the Holy Prophet and what you say is an insult to the oppressed, to the one whose rights were being usurped.
Every person who shook the hands of the Prophet did not become his companion-Surah Munafiqoon's first verse makes that clear. Not to mention Imam Ali was not just a companion, but someone who the Prophet raised, slept with, crushed hard foods for so it would be easy for Imam Ali to swallow, and was made his brother when the Mohajir reached Medina, among many other things.
Reason with reality.
Extremely interesting, especially for a non-Moslem's point of view. Like some scholars have noticed, Ali was a far more spiritual person than his enemies. The problem is he might not have had the political skills necessary. Politics is a dirty business, and Ali wasn't dirty.
It was a bad time, very bad time to manage things. Especially when there are those who pretend to support you, but plot against you. Them khawarij tried to assassinate Muawiya and Amer too, but failed
These videos are full of misinformation.
@@adisj5696 these videos are accurate
I am Sunni Muslims and I Strongly Support Ali R.A ...He R.A was right in both wars.........
All Sunnies think that Ali was right in his claims...But today Shiets are different they worship Ali which is against the teachings of Islam
I am Shia, Is NOT true what you say brother . Today Shia people dont worship Ali. Only Allah is worthy of such praise.The propaganda that many of the Shias nowadays they worship Ali and his sons. That is propaganda that SUNNIS OF The house of saud tell is not true. The Saudi Royal Family Are Crypto-Jews
peymas Shia people are around 7% of the Muslim world. Do you really think that 93% of Muslims are wrong and only 7% are right???
Our prophet said: "My Umma does not gather on something wrong"
peymas
Brother i read your books and the fundamental belief on which Islam based Is tauwheed ......But Your main stream Scholars Consider the fundamental belief is imama,........Quran said if someone go against tauwheed he commit shirk But Your Scholers said if some one dont consider Ali R.A as First imam and associated partners in walaya commit shirk.....So now tell me who is wrong ......Please read your own book...
The worst Concept that your Scholars initiated is Rajat.....Go and read the tafseer of Chapter 27 Verse 82 of your Ulama about rajat concept which is totally go against Quran and hadith .......No one will be raised alive from the grave Until the day of Judgment but your Scholars said Ali R.A will be raised from his grave and then he will raised first three caliph from their graves along with Aisha R.A and then Ali R.A will take revenge .........Does this make sense ?
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it is not about majority or Minority But about the Scale which measure that who is wrong and who is right ........And in Islam Quran is the book which will decide who is Wrong and who is right ....am i correct ?
This is a beautiful series; thanks for giving this such a thorough and engaging treatment. I've been interested in Middle Eastern and Islamic history for a while, and it's frustrating how limited the typical Westerner is in their understanding of it. Hopefully videos like this can help to ameliorate that...
+Coldwine It is a beautiful series for sure. I think I'd be one of those limited typical westerner you speak of. I'm well versed in European history as it pertains to me most directly and I think thats really more a human thing as the majority would naturally focus on our relative historical locality. I wonder how many in the middle east know anything about the history of my country, Ireland. I'd say very few. I'd love to see something like this taught in schools in both west and east. Hell just employ Shirvan, he deserves the position and praise.
+RenovatioJuris Yes, it definitely should! And it's fine to be ignorant; as you've said, everyone is ignorant to some degree. My biggest problem with Westerners is that they tend to read crap history *cough* Bat Ye'or *cough*, adopt a strident and farcical narrative which treats the Middle East as Mordor, and then dismiss anyone who presents a nuanced, sane critique as part of some grand conspiracy. I don't think that that applies to you at all xP
And you're right about people in the Middle East and Western history in general. Slavery discussions are a good example of this: Westerners and Muslims almost always end up talking past one another because the institution of slavery in both cultures was implemented so differently, and neither person usually understands that.
Oh how I dream of the day that quality like this is the standard of all nations television programming. There would be no place or excuse for ignorance. Thank you very much for your content, it has taught me a lot about a otherwise under appreciated part of the world.
+RenovatioJuris Well, Irish history has more available materials and sources than Islamic subjects. The purpose behind these videos is to answer the questions on the origins of Islamic traditions and mindsets. However, I understand your point. If there was mutual understanding and knowledge we would have less animosity.
Dont blame The west on your basic knowledge. You can just go to a library or the internet and read about the subject. Besides, I think westerners are the less biased when it comes to history to the point where we portray ourselves as mordor. Muslims dont even separate their history from their religon.
Jesus, did Ali ever lose? what a warrior...
yeah, apparently he lost his life and the whole caliphate. he was an incompetent leader but a good soldier. mu awiah knew how diplomacy works. uthman ruined the caliphate and Ali couldn't manage to repair the damage... none the less all of these people and these things were part of political issues over who has the power.. Mohammad was not a messenger of god, he was a leader and that's it... when you kill your opposition or tax them no wonder your religion gains many followers..
+somebody Ali never lost a battle. even in the war of khandaq when he was the only one who dare to face amr ibn abdowad.
Ali was the best ruller,Just like Prophet him self. He tried to renew teachings of prophet. but elite arabs who gained too much money and power in the reign of omar and othman did not want justice. people like talha and zubair gathered an army behind ayisha and went to a war with him. people like muawia who wanted to create their own monarchy opposed Ali. the reason why Ali's rule did not take much long was because he wanted to bring back justice. because he opposed royality.
+somebody if u say Mohammad(PBUH) was not a massenger, then u didn't read Quran. no one could say such thing but God himself. just google Quran's scintific facts, and u will find the truth.
Btw, prophet Mohammad(pbuh) fought many wars and muslims army only killed about 1000 man in those wars. they never killed children or women. prophet said any captive who teach 10 muslim how to read is free.
he even spared those who fought him many times when he conquared Mecca.
Dude Prophet Mohammad (S) pbuh literally split the moon, God showed this miracle even his harshest of enemies saw this and couldn't believe it. Many of his followers testified of seeing this. It is not in the video but Prophet also told the leader of the Khawarij that he will die at the hands of ali and he did. He said uthman will die reading the Quran and that's exactly how he died. People like Abu Bakr and Uthman would not follow some imposter. Prophet Mohammad was a true messenger of god. Him splitting the moon is bigger then any miracle moses or jesus did.
1. Read how he performed miracles just like prophet jesus sunnah.org/history/miracles_of_Prophet.htm
2.Read How Prophet Mohammad Foretold future events or told prophecy and how they came true exactly how he said www.answering-christianity.com/prophecies_by_prophet_muhammad.htm
3. Read about the life of the prophet and the good things he did, how it cannot be the work of a madman or liar howtobeahappymuslim.com/?p=1217 and this incident which shows how he forgave people even after being stoned imamjohari.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/the-prophet-muhammad-pbuh-the-lessons-of-non-violent-resistance-at-at-taif/ then read how those same people of taif waged war against the prophet and when the prophet went to attack their castle how he couldn't even bring himself to destroy their garden because the people in castle started to get upset and crying. Imagine he couldn't even bring himself to destroy the garden of the same people who stoned him and his son earlier! Does that honestly sound like some kind of a manipulative liar,warmonger or madman?! Please! www.al-islam.org/the-message-ayatullah-jafar-subhani/chapter-50-battle-taif after watching the videos and reading the article I would like to Invite you to to Islam. It is the true religion and way of life. May Allah Guide you.
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Pig shit.
I'm neither Sunni, nor Shia! I am a Muslim!
interesting
khalifa why?
If you follow our prophet Muhammad asw. and his sunnah, you re sunni. but u re right
there is no such thing as muslim . you are either sunni or shia. .. stop spreading bullshit !
muslim or shia*
what is up with youtube's sensitive video policy ?
Caspian Report is the best indepth analyse of international politics
I smell conspiracy here
+سليل المجد Khawarijis did it lel
same here!
+سليل المجد what makes you think that? whats the youtube sensitive video policy?
Skyline711 watch the end of this video
سليل المجد
apologies, only just got to the end.
Its as criminal as it is ignorant of YT to do this.
This is the kind of channel it needs more of as its already mostly brain dead nonsense.
I was hoping you would talk about the *Khawarij*, it seemed that only Muslims knew them and they were invisible to the western world. So it was very nice of you to mention them.
I have to say the way you portrayed Mu'awiya's motives were pretty Shia based but *nonetheless all Muslims would agree that Ali was the rightful Caliph at the time*.
+KizaruD Khawarji is Illuminati Confirmed
What is the Sunni version of Muawiya's motives
Jon B In short;
Muawiya was from the same tribe as Uthman and so he wanted Uthman to be revenged immediately, when he saw Ali was postponing the trial he felt Ali was not fit to rule and that he would be the better leader. He wanted justice and he wanted it immediately.
Although that was a mistake on his part it had nothing to do with him being a corrupt governor and extorting the populace for money. Nor was it because he thought It was an impossible task.
When he declared himself the leader of the Muslims he believed he would be better for the people than Ali
+KizaruD While Ali sought justice, Muawiya pursued politics. Every move Muawiya pursued was for political gain and not for the sake of justice, and that is the way history is documented.
Muawiya, son of Abu Sufyan (the eternal enemy of Muhammad), and father of Yazid (illegitmate ruler who slaughter Hussayn grandson of Muhammad) had no claim to the throne and broke his treaty made with Hasan son of Ali, that was mentioned at the end of this video.
Keep in mind Yazid being a drunkard and womanizer whose tryanny eventually was the cause of the Ummayad Dynasty; Muawiya desire to put his son in power was not for justice, but for preserving political power, a common theme among his actions. Seriously though, who puts a holy scripture on the spear in the middle of a battle. Is that justice? My goodness.
+KizaruD shia are known to lie alot and fabricate history 90% of their history is lies. Shia scholors today admit they fabricated story of Umar(ra) killing Fathima(ra) it was a shia lie to create anti Sunni propaganda
Ali never accepted negotiation with muawia. he was forced by ignorent people who didn't understand muawia's plan.
The Unknown none. I am an Irainian Turk
ISIS, FSA, AL NUSRA, AL QAIDA, WAHABI SALAFI KHAWARIJI NAWASIB ALL ARE BY PRODUCT OF MOVIA'S MISDEEDS
The Sunni-Shiite friction is very childish and annoying...
+George Severn true
It's even more meaningless today since there is no Caliph, and the entire argument is "who should be Caliph".
+George Severn Same can be said about Catholic-Orthodox friction
Litovoi Yes, but it isn't causing a lot of trouble these days
+George Severn Indeed, tell me about it :\
Been waiting for this =) Thanks for all your reports Sirvan.
Even as a hindu I say curse the Khawarji. They killed Caliph and then brought chaos and then still called everyone else as disbeliever and going to hell. sooo strange and hypocritical
Rajarshi Roy this times effect is still of Mislims theology today....if they would have some how resolved the issue ..... Muslims would be in a much better positions.
Beautifully done, as an Arab studying this time period from the original sources i have to congratulate you on the historical accuracy of this video, keep up the good work
Finally Caspian Report great job
This is highly interesting. And well presented. No unnecessary comentaries, no personal or corporate opinions on it, just flat historical important events described at a nice pace.
I Love Hazrat Abu Bakar(R.A), Hazrat Umer(R.A), Hazrat Usman(R.A) & Hazrat Ali(R.A)_
LOL good for you lad, may you be raised with those you love
Muslims who support radical Islam must realize that this radical Islam killed one of their biggest leader, Ali.
And Uthman
+Ahmed Hussein ...yup
Rohit Kalra we shia do
Rohit Kalra what is "radical Islam"?
@@ahmed11hussein uthman brought his own end he neither knew military discipline nor he knew how to run a government.
Praise be to Imam Ali and may peace and blessings be upon him
This is one of the best docu series done about Islam, simple, informative and unbiased... thank you Shirvan, I love your work.
I feel sad for Ali . I hope God restores Justice, and that too gloriously, for the Ahlul bayt. May peace be upon Muhammad, Khadija, Fatima, Ali, Hassan and Hussain
This series is incredible. The parallel between ancient politics and modern politics is really eye opening, its great that history can be explained so vividly and interestingly!
As an unbiased observer, I could say that if Ali would have been the first Khalif, the course of history would have been different
Beautiful series! I urge anyone confused about the religion and history of Islam to watch this! Thank you as I learned so much from these and are my top favorite videos regarding history. I love all your other videos for that matter too. thanks 😁
Perfect and very informative. I just want to clarify that most (if not all) of the Sunnis scholars during history believe that Ali's claims were right as well as the Shias did when Ali was alive.
The issue with many of the Shias nowadays that they worship Ali and his sons and consider them as infallible and similar to gods; the thing that leads to pagan rituals. Other normal Muslims believe that Ali and his sons were just heroes, relatives of Muhammad, and normal humans like anyone else..
I love Caspian report, please don't ever stop it.
Ya Ali you are the leader of the believers en truthfull. May Allah curse those who fought against the family of the prophet.
This series has been more informative than a thousand reports on the topic from cable news. Thanks
Muawiyah was the real life "Little Finger" at that time.
He was a sly little shit
shut up all he wanted is to revenge othman
@Dhuku _10 superior in material filth that is.
@@mohammedzaid9274 how could you want revenge for Uthman when you conspired with your own cousin/Allie; Marwan and got him killed in the first place?
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Prove that first
This was really good, it provides so much clarity on a very obfuscated part of Islamic history. Great work Shirvan!!
Thanks Egyptians. Just had to ruin it for everyone huh?
+Zedek Illuminati confirmed
+Zedek First they budded in line when God was handing out the larger penises, and then they later showed up to kill the Caliph. Egyptians - always trying to raid everyone else's fun.
+Zedek Those Khawarij who ruined it for everyone were the political tool of Muawiya. While Ali's quest from the outset was justice, Muawiya's was political gain. Keep in mind that Muawiya was the son of Abu Sufyan, the eternal enemy of the Prophet Muhammad; he was also the father of Yazid, the usurper tyrant behind the slaughter of Husain grandson of Muhammad.
You will see this in the next episode most likely, history could not be more clear.
+Sownd Knowle-edge enough shia nonscense, this video has much historical inaccuracies its told mostly from shia point of view. For example even shia scholors admit they fabricated the story of Umar(ra) killing fathima as a ploy against Sunnis. So shia history is 99% lies and full of fabrications
Mohamed Mo their was much slant for example Aisha(ra) did not set out to fight Ali(ra) but to talk to him about getting justice for Uthman(ra) and their were infiltrators in Ali(ra) ranks who started the battle of the Camel not her.
Also that bit about Umar(ra) killing 'fathima' what a disgusting lie, shites made many such lies to try to and destroy the Sunnah and put doubt in the Quran. The shia claim Umar and Uthman(ra) etc corrupted the Quran.
So no scholors in past all 4 great imams declared Shia are liars and deviant their history is false
These videos are so helpful! And enlightening. Thanks so much for making them for us Westerners to become educated in the history of Islam. Priceless to us!
excellent review of history here. And the Khawarij ending, mind blowing. Always a pleasure watching your videos :)
love this videos!! keep it up Insha'Allah
+Tristar Gym Hi Tristar, (a bit) like Caspian Report I am making videos about international affairs. The style is a bit different though. I am trying as hard as possible to make good videos, but I do not have many people to watch them. As you love Caspian Report I think that maybe you could be interested by my channel! Anyway, I would be soooo glad if you could have a look and tell me what you think!
this is better than the bbc
ogounlurker yes it is
Shirvan your presentation is terrific, & I really found it interesting & educational watching all these episodes. Thanks to you & your team for doing such a good job!!
You doing well ! go ahead bro < its the right time to share cultures between west and east !
Hey great video! Thanks for uploading it I had been waiting for a long time for it! I wonder why TH-cam has to poke their nose in you're business the people deserve to know about all of this! Thanks again! :D
Your channel is my fav TH-cam channel by far.
thank you brother for this programme. it is very educational. you can see that some of the problems we face today in islam are not from the orginal message of the prophet (pbuh) but people after him.
Another good video, I'm heading straight to Patreon and looking forward to your next one.
I'm curious as to what excuse " the great Goo-Golathon " has for de-monetising Caspian Report, this is happening more and more, and while I can understand the politically inconvenient getting switched off, this is TV broadcast safe, I could happily recommend it to my mother, unlike some of the other videos I watch.
I look to these videos for an interesting and informative overview, and I can't fathom what possible legitimate reason they might have for their actions.
+James Keating I suppose TH-cam prefers "positive" subjects for monetization. However with Patreon we can work around this, thanks for your support!
+CaspianReport it was not called Mesopotamia at that time , records from the Islamic time show people call it "Iraq" & it was inhabited by Arabs thousands of years before Islam eg the Lakhmids..great Vid BTW looking forward for the next episodes
+CaspianReport yo caspian you should beware of the shia historical slant, for example even many shia scholors admit the story of Umar(ra) killing fathimia was a Shia lie a fabrication to defame the sunni rulers. Shia history is full of lies and deception
adam channel are you atheist or christian mr
+TheGiantKiller8 Muslim
I love your history series. it opens the eyes of many to historic realities that are otherwise only domain of scholars. I look forward to your next installment. it will also clarify many doubts for non Muslims on the history and the context for today's radicalism that is not part of Islam.
This is a really well made video. Great effort.
wowwww, this awesome series dude, i support u fully dude, cannt wait for the next episode..:)
Awesome video Sirvan! Would love to support you on your website..
And F*ckin TH-cam man, it should be the other way around, they should support your work for the good that it would do to enlighten people on those very "sensitive" subjects!!
Can't wait for the final part :)
What an amazing series! I was completly ignorant about early islamic history. Thank you for this
Do a video on Zoroaster and Zoroastrianism
+Ishaan Shah Here's a like, Up you go.
Salam.
+Tarik360 سلام😊
Amazing video Shirvan can't wait for the final part.
amazing I am Muslim and you must be a scholar or something you truly have a great gift and this has made me choose to be a shia Muslim thank you
Just became a patron from finland! Great quality in all your videos, keep up the good work :)
+Markus Solja That's awesome, thank you for the support!
Amazing, I look forward to watching more of your videos.
Yes! Been waiting for quiet a while! Best educational channel in TH-cam keep it up!
As always great video and information
good series. clear and objective in my opinion. can't wait for part 5
7:42 Ali (as) did not fight aisha, aisha fought him, she fought the rightly guided khalifa of her time, the one who was granted heaven. where quran ordered the wives of the Prophet (pbuh) to stay home after the Prophet (pbuh).
Faz 786 salaam. Thnx for pointing out the Quranic edict. But most of the claimants of Islam don't know the real Islam and the genuine leaders appointed by Allah swt. The majority just follow the propaganda of the powerful and the conquers blindly!
but wait in her eyes didnt Ali fight her? Women can be as capable as men,When did the quran ever mention the wiwes of muhammad (pbuh)
Oh, btw you forgot the wives of the prophet (saw) are also his wives in the afterlife including Aisha ( may Allah's peace be upon her) and she was the prophet (saw), favorite person. And Ali ( May Allah's peace be upon him) was in the right, but Ayesha ( May Allah's peace be upon her) had good intension.
@@No_Name_left ohh what a hood intention that made her rage the first muslim-muslim war in history how about if she had bad intentions what would she do?
Thank you very much for this expertly delivered and highly informed historical series. It is quite refreshing to have a completely objective and unbiased view on these historical events that are so greatly affecting the world today. Please continue your good work!
While Ali took the side of the poor and unfortunate Aisha took the side of the rich and the oppressors. I don't insult Aisha but wasn't it the prophet who said "Who ever loves Ali I love and who ever hates Ali I hate". Then why did Aisha took up arms against Ali.
+meisam gholami well, since most of the Muslim world is Sunni, I guess they didn't much are for that particular statement from the Profit/Prophet.
+meisam gholami If you do further reading, you will know that after all the mess Aisha did, she repented at the end and regretted that she went against Ali. They didn't remain enemies for ever. They made peace eventually
Victors write the history books - what is the authenticity of the information? Otherwise, the claims and their advocates sound like political spin.
Prophet also said the superiority of Aisha over all women is like the superiority of Thareed over food
sheikh abou The Prophet said that his daughter is the Leader of all the women in the Alameen-Aisha is a woman by the way. The Prophet also said that there would be no equal for his daughter without Ali.
Don't compare the light of Allah with the light we create ourselves.
Shirvan! Well done. I will study all of your content. All the best for you!
will you talk about the Moors in Spain ?
If he ever does, prepare for one of the greatest shitstorms in TH-cam comment history.
+Siddiq Ismail why there will be a shitstorm? :D
ELISA STRANGEHUMANBEING because right wings people will argue everything was bad , even though evidence suggests otherwise
well forcing non muslims to pay extra taxes wasnt ideal but they werent the devil incarnated , there have been far worse invasors . *****
+ELISA STRANGEHUMANBEING And forcing Muslims to pay Zakat (religous tax) offset that
I haven't watched the video yet, but I just came here to like it because I know it will be an excellent and informative video.
I'll watch it tomorrow when i have more time.
Keep up the great work!
Ali (RA) was a devout Muslim, had brilliant intellect and wits, amazing soldier and outstanding strategist and campaigner but a politician he was not. He refused to the play the game of politics and in fact hated it. This was his undoing. His decision to pardon the murderers of Uthman (RA) triggered the Ummayyad insurrection that spit the Caliphate and would ultimately lead to his own assassination.
Funny thing is that Ali crushed the rebellion yet didn't execute the Ummayyads and his chief rival Muawiya who'd go on to assassinate him and his sons.
He did good by not executing Muawiya. And as far I know,Muwayia didn’t kill Ali or conspired his killing.Yazid,Muawiya's son is still a bad face in sunni Islam.however,The Umayyads did a lot for the muslims afterwards.The caliphate of cordoba was a great caliphate.
Excellent work Shirvan.. Keep up the good job.
excellent work. thank you. this explains a lot in today's context
I'm looking forward for part 5!
Hey buddy, great videos. By the way, it's "respectively", not "respectfully". So, for example:
"they received sentences of one year and eight months respectively".
+John Doe (Swlabr) Yeah, I misspoke, I need to stop working on videos during the night :)
+CaspianReport Since were on the topic of fixes, could you consider speeding up your videos. I usually watch at 1.5x regular speed and you still sound perfectly coherent .
+Mohamed Mo There will be, I still have to write it.
+L Kira English isn't my native language, I can't really talk any faster. However, TH-cam does have a speed option under settings.
Fair enough, just something I've noticed. Thanks for your work, I learn something new every video.
THIS TYPE OF INTRIGUE AND PLOTS TWISTS SHOULD BE MADE INTO A HBO SERIES.
WELL DONE!
Great work!
Thank you. Good work. I hope to see more later. Thanks again!
Is there part 5 for this series?? Awesome work by Shirvan
I hope our master Sayyid al-Shuhada blesses you because of this work.
Sir I respect your study and dedication towards this topic. However I would request you to share the sources you have used in creation of this video.
As Muslim, I support Ali(ra) and believe he was in the right, but I don't believe in the practices of Shia Islam.
I learned finally why the SCHIzm and why it happened... good video
Top notch work. Keep it up!
Muawiyah Lannister
Hi. I am muslim. And I want to tell you all that the given information is not correct according to Islamic historical resources. I would highly recommend to everyone that you learn islamic history from the point of Islam
All Sunnies think that Ali was right in his claims...But today Shiets are different they worship Ali which is against the teachings of Islam
Ardex 313 ive never seen people praise ali like the Shia do. non stop like parrots
Shadi Herz Shia? Since when?
Shias do not worship Imam Ali ibn Abu Talib. Sorry to break the illusion that justifies your animosity.
you bakries are the real enemies of islam and ali wasalam
Visit & you'll be surprised.
Thank you for History of Islam.
The difference between Abu Baker, Omar, Osman and Ali is that Ali saved slaves like Meisam e tamar a persian slave. But the others kept many slaves. Omar was even killed by his own slave. It shows how superior Ali was compared to them
+Nebuchadnezzar II Muhammad (saw) kept these men as companions, men he trusted. Do you believe your opinion of these men, who lived a thousand years before you, overrules that of the prophet's judgement?
+Dnt Wry read sura 9 and verse 101 of the Quran it states "Among the Arabs around you there are hypocrites. Also, among the city dwellers, there are those who are accustomed to hypocrisy". If prophet may peace be upon him and his family knew all the heart of the people around him the why did god send this sura.
+Abdulahi Mohamed Omar was killed by his persian slave this shows you lack of knowledge in the Islamic history please read Bokhari the greatest Sunni scholar
+Abdulahi Mohamed everyone knows that Bilal the first black Muslim was freed by the prophet peace be upon him. How dare you to say something the prophet has done that Abu baker has done just to make him sound good.
+Abdulahi Mohamed al Mughirah gave the slave to Omar as a gift. Look at what all the major scholars have to say about this subject and they all agree at that time Omar Owen the slave. Read Bukhari
excellent video excellent excellent well done thank you so much for your time and effort on these videos aloha
I just want to ask you one thing, why you make us wait for so long :)
+Indian Gamer Can't rush quality. ;) There's much history to fit into a concise video.
+Indian Gamer Can't rush quality. ;) There's much history to fit into a concise video.
Sownd Knowle-edge Totally Agreed :)
+Indian Gamer good research take time :)
Splendid effort. Thank you very much.
one true leader, another who wants wealth and group of outlaws who murdered uthman.
first one is destined to be killed , good people dies in that way usually.
second guy lives, people who wants wealth enjoys this worlds only.
third kind, they are the worst ones, sadly such people always in this world.
what a tragedy.
now i understood the Islamic books i have read when i was a child.
+Secularization Mordernization
Most of Islamic schools are brainwash centers. I am Muslim and I know this by heart.
+Secularization Mordernization Maybe I did not say it clearly. I read a lot of literature related to Islam when I was a child, I did not go to islamic school or any center, I just read it during winter when I cant go outside to play.
These books and names of people in it are too long and too many for 7-10 years old of me.
Islamic school maybe bad somewhere, maybe good somewhere also, don't blame islamic school, people are responsible.
+2sunami I never been in a islamic school, I just read books my self and could not fellow the story.
Alimjan Yasin What I was trying to say is, if someone was to be put in an Islamic school, then this school would either be for Sunnis or for Shias and they will brainwash you accordingly. I as a kid attended a Quran school. This was best because all we did was recite the Quran and memorize chapters of it, that's all. With no further bias from a any sect.
Wtf is an Islamic school anyways? Do they have different scientific theories established? lol jst being sarcastic
With all due respect this video is extremely biased against Muway (R).This is only from the point of view of the shia. If you read any non Muslim historian during that time they always describe Muawiya as a just and kind king. Which doesn't at all match what the shias say about him. Truth is Ali (R) was a great leader but he failed to unite the muslim ummah. But Muaway was able to do that and he also respected Ali. If he wanted he could have killed Ali but that was never his intention that's why he talked about peace treaty. Here is a non muslim historians description of Muawiya John bar Penkaye, 67-68 AH / 687 CE.
Little is known about John bar Penkaye. He was a native of Fenek in north-western Mesopotamia and a resident of the monastery of John Kamul. It was in this monastery he wrote Ktābā d-rīš mellē ("Book of the Salient Points") and dedicated it to a person called Sabrisho‘, the abbott of this convent.[37] In his book John bar Penkaye wrote the chronicle of the world from Creation to his present day which he calls as the "severe chastisement of today".[38] His work seeks to treat the salient points of history in a brief fashion. For the issue which concerns us here, it is discussed in the fifteenth and the last chapter, where the Arab conquests and the devastating famine and plague of 67 AH / 686-67 CE are mentioned.[39] Concerning Muhammad, John bar Penkaye says that:
Having let their dispute run its course, after much fighting had taken place between them, the Westerners, whom they call the sons of ’Ammāyē, gained the victory, and one of their number, a man called M‘awyā [i.e., Mu‘awiya], became king controlling the two kingdoms, of the Persians and of the Byzantines. Justice flourished in his time, and there was great peace in the regions under his control; he allowed everyone to live as they wanted. For they held, as I have said above, an ordinance, stemming from the man who was their guide (mhaddyānā), concerning the people of the Christians and concerning the monastic station. Also as a result of this man's guidance (mhaddyānūtā) they held to the worship of One God, in accordance with the customs of ancient law. At the beginnings they kept to the traditions (mašlmānūtā) of Muḥammad,who was their instructor (tā’rā).
I've been waiting for Part 4 for a while now.
Ali ❤
Excellent series, you just earned a subscriber.
Muawiyah was setting up a ploy? Source? Many not only Muawiyah demanded revenge for Othmans death, the main grievance was Ali's inability to even say he wants to catch the people who caused his death.
You narrated this over a shia lense rather than an unbiased lense telling both stories, you pretty much waved off the other sides story as just a "ploy".
Otherwise most of it was well made but prefer no biased attitudes.
+Iberion Baratheon While Ali sought justice, Muawiya pursued politics. Every move Muawiya
pursued was for political gain and not for the sake of justice, and that
is the way history is documented.
Muawiya, son of Abu Sufyan (the eternal enemy of Muhammad), and father
of Yazid (illegitmate ruler who slaughter Hussayn grandson of Muhammad)
had no claim to the throne and broke his treaty made with Hasan son of
Ali, that was mentioned at the end of this video.
Keep in mind Yazid being a drunkard and womanizer whose tryanny
eventually was the cause of the Ummayad Dynasty; Muawiya desire to put
his son in power was not for justice, but for preserving political
power, a common theme among his actions. Seriously though, who puts a
holy scripture on the spear in the middle of a battle. Is that justice?
My goodness.
+Sownd Knowle-edge there is no throne or dynasty in Islam. I may be a minority here but I view uthman as a naive pious and somewhat a liar. he said he would not stray from the ways of Umar and Abu Bakr yet he appointed his relatives in high ranks a didn't cycle the governors after he took the office. he did what he knew best and preyed for the best. the shias didn't care about anyone. they didn't hold a Shura counsel to elect a new caliph, established Ali line as the new monarch and expect the entire muslim world to bow their head and accept it? both sides were wrong imo. I'm not sunni or Shia just a Muslim that thinks for himself. try not to take some imam or aalim version of history and look it up yourself
+Introvert Wolf thnx for your input sir... I am no Shia or Sunni either. Just a Muslims with no other titles and I only believe in one book which is the Quran ONLY, and everything else is history and should be treated as such.
I agree with your comment to some extent. Uthman ruled for 12 years, his first 6 years of rule were great, however his last 6 years was when Uthman became old and unable to make clear judgments and I as well as many scholars perceive it as him being very naive and disastrous. Uthman was originally a very successful business man and that's what he knew best and he ruled the Caliphate in a business point of perspective. He messed up I got to say! However, I cannot turn a blind eye to his stance with Prophet Mohammad since the very early days. I am in no position to judge but I'll let Allah do the judgment
+2sunami sorry if I sounded rude. I have nothing but respect for uthman he is a companion and clearly did everything with pure intentions. it just talking about how the Rashidun caliphate ended make my blood boil :(
Thank you man, this is some good info
the people with ali were not called shias , they were muslims that read the quran , sadly now shias say this quran is made up or not true , ali's "shia" believed in the quran and that aisha is the mother of the faithful . i would call myself a shiate for that , but nowadays shias don't believe in the quran neither do they believe that aisha is even a good human being , this video is very good .
+MOHAMMAD ABDULLAH Shias don't believe the quran is made up, where are you getting this (dis)information from?
Did anybody else notice that the scene at 3:15 is from Monty Python? Lulz, great stuff CaspianReport
Whoa, whoa, whoa there, Shirvan of Caspian Report!
How do we really know that some of these specifics happened? How do we really know that "members of the mob" infiltrated the armies of Ali and Aisha to conspiratorially cause chaos and mayhem? To me, this sounds like some kind of apologist window-dressing, to canonize and exculpate the beloved Ali and Aisha, to make them sound like they could do no wrong - when in fact their own negligence and petty egos may have directly caused the outbreak of war. The "mob" may be some classic scapegoat conveniently erected to make Ali and Aisha both look perfectly innocent.
In other words, you seem to be telling the story in a very intimate first-person way, as if you had traveled back in time to originally witness the events firsthand. How/why should I trust your narrative? What do you know that everybody else doesn't?
+manofsan
All these events were documented,,, all someone has to do is analyze
2sunami Uhh, documented by whom? What was their objectivity? "Analyse" is a word - give us a transparent analysis, citing your sources and how you came about your interpretations. Otherwise, the "analysis" I'm hearing sounds a lot like political spin.
we have the epic of Gilgamesh documented since 2000BC. If documenting events was possible in that time, why wouldn't it be possible in like 700AD? There was historians who lived near the time of these events and documented them.
Anyways,,, referring to your first comment... From my point of view I see that Aisha was wrong for going out against the legitimate elected Caliph (Ali). She should have waited for him to settle the assassination issue of Uthman by himself! Ali had bigger problems to deal and he preferred to settle these problems and pursue Uthman's assassins after. However, Aisha wanted it immediately and she was damn serious about it to the point that she led an army against Ali for this purpose. That only made Ali's problems bigger giving him unnecessary headache on top of the headache Muawiyah was giving him. It was obvious that Muawiyah wanted to coup the caliphate and he succeeded eventually. Aisha lived the rest of her life regretting that she opposed Ali.
I think that because these are religious figures, there's a whole lot of incentive for the faithful to put spin on their actions, and make them more palatable - like a Hollywood movie. In real life, real history doesn't always have everyone behaving perfectly nobly, or being tragically misunderstood, etc.
+manofsan I have to agree here, Shirvan. This piece lacks sources, but most important of all, it fails to do what you always do so well: show how complicated power can be since every power follows an own agenda. The portrayal of Muahwiyah is interesting and human, but both Ali and Aisha seem to come no blame, and we get the Khawarij to blame for everything that went wrong in early Islam.
In general these series on early Islam have been very interesting, but what I like so much about your videos is showing how everyone is human, cultures make you biased towards stuff, and how powers chase their own agenda. I presume you have personal reasons to be either mild or forgiving towards early Islam, and I can see things through that lens, but the portrayal of the Khawarij as the (successful) will of the devil into breaking the ummah goes a too far.
Besides that, thank you for always giving an interesting perspective on things.
Wow in-depth and feels correct
Piruz was not mentally disturbed, but a Nobelman who killed that which invaded and occupied his homeland.
Javid Pirouz
+Sepehr Naderi Marg bar Abu Lulu!!! MARG BAR piruz nahavandi!!!
Abu Lu Lu was a Muslim, he killed Umar for Fatima Al-Zahraa.
Abu lulu was a muslim, who even his little daughter was muslim. Sunni scholars can't even decide whether he's a Christian, Jew, or majoosi
daminanlil no he wasn't . ab lulu was clearly majoosi (Zorostrain fire worshipper) . No muslim would kill caliph of islam . if he was muslim he was faking it he even stabbed himself after backstabbing umar during prayer
As a hindu this is very interesting because most of our god's stories are less of human stories and more magical and legend-ish which makes it unrelatable
this is so pro shia... however even in sunni everybody agreed muawiyah was ruthless n cunning...
ImperialEarthEmpire Had this actually been pro-Shia, never would a sentence like Muawiya, who was lower than a savage, checkmating anyone would maje it into the video.
As a non Muslim I understood that Ali was always the best person to lead Islam after Muhammad. Though Abu Bakkar and Umar performed their duty well, from Uthman things went wrong. His followers were selfish elites who did dirty politics to dethrone Ali. Wish fortune had favoured Ali and his followers.
the shia are cursing abu bakr umar and uthman and aisha after their prayers, which doesnt make any sense
Shia biased point of view
+zatorith can you give a few examples?
Then you want Umaries Sunnis point of view whom killed more than 1K Muslims with their mother Aisha the adulteress.
+Nebuchadnezzar II shia are as real muslim as my dog is
hehe no one offers an explanation of bias...but everyone thinks its there...hmmm
Abdulahi Mohamed
So what if the adulteress accursed Aisha was the prophet's wife??? Haven't you heard of prophet Noah's wife???
I can't respect a woman that killed more than one thousand Muslim in one day.
Really very interesting. Helped understand IS. Didn't understand historical grounds of development until now. Thank you.