I want hipster scarf-wearing George to show up in future episodes, and every time he does he's wearing one more scarf. Eventually his head will just be a big ball of scarves.
This is such a great mix of genuinely informative content with just the right amount of humor to prevent infodump exhaustion. This is why I love watching your video even tho I'm probably never gonna get into PS or VR.
he's being completely genuine, though.... the only "joke" is the persona he adopts for the buzzword speech. the rest of the video is him being completely enamored with VR. he *truly* does believe that it's not a gimmick.
that's pretty cynical - the guy is clearly super excited for this technology now that it's actually getting somewhere and wants to see people do amazing things with it (which a number of developers already have). what's depressing about that? new creative means and exploration of the ways we do what we do are not at all depressing. if you feel that games "should" be played a certain way, you really need to consider that at one point video games themselves were the same kind of gimmick, as well as any number of the different control schemes being tried out for them.
Yeah, I was sceptical about VR too, until I tried a set out two years ago. Took the plunge only a few weeks later, as the Vive just hit the market, and since then, a vast majority of my gaming time has beein in VR.
Excellent video. Editing, performance, pacing, script - all professional and personal. An absolute pleasure to watch your videos and hear your thoughts on games and gaming. Thanks!
This is the only positive review and outlook on VR I've ever seen outside of sensationalist journalism websites aimed at 40 year olds. And that's interesting because it comes from a guy who turned out to be a mutant insusceptible to motion sickness (within reason). And as the voice I trust the most when it comes to commentary and editorials on gaming, you sir have got me maybe re-thinking my position on VR.
As someone who started in the highly susceptible category of VR sickness and graduated to middle of the road on the spectrum (I usually have to use the mild 'comfort setting' in fast movement games), it's not as big of a deal as people tend to rail about. There's basically two things that make you sick, and that's yaw/roll and acceleration (note I didn't say movement, specifically acceleration) when independent from your body. Most games design around this. Yaw/roll is only really a concern in cockpit games. Developers design around this either by not having it or, more commonly, offering comfort settings that add slightly thicker frames on the struts between window panes or an extra crossbeam. It doesn't take much to resolve the issue. If I use no comfort settings, yaw usually has me wanting to puke within a minute or two. If I use the lowest comfort setting in flight games (as in least obtrusive), I can play for hours fine. The second is acceleration and most games simply mitigate that by instantly jumping you to the next tier of speed when using indirect control Unless I'm rapidly switching speeds over and over, I can play for great lengths of time fine here as well. For anything that isn't exclusively roomscale or uses teleporting in combination with roomscale, there's an adjustment period. It's not a great sales pitch and I get that can turn people away, but it's not a big hurdle either and VR is truly amazing. Starting out a few roomscale games gets your brain comfortable in VR and will cause no nausea, period. After that, move onto other games and play them as you would. Begin playing non-1:1 movement games with high comfort settings and lower them over time. Generally speaking, this isn't a per-game thing unless that game is poorly coded. If you find yourself adapting to one, you're adapting to all of them. If you start to feel unusually warm for your level of activity, take a break as that's the sign that nausea will follow. After a week or two, you'll notice that it'll take significantly longer for that unusually warm feeling to come on. I've yet to meet someone who within a few weeks, couldn't play a non-1:1 movement game on mild comfort settings for extended periods of time. And while VR sickness is the inverse of traditional motion sickness, playing VR has significantly helped me with motion sickness when reading in cars and trains.
I recently got PSVR and it has been eyeopening. I have loved it so far and it was my first time experiencing VR. Hopefully the PS5 will be designed on improving the potential room-scale and lack of ports. (Though I recommend charging docks for controllers, its yet another expense but if it plugs directly into the wall, it solves the lack of port problem and keeps everything charged even while the console is off)
I think he meant that as in VR will stand the test of time and isn't a fad. It obviously won't replace traditional video games or movies, but it can live alongside them.
I dont think that VR will ever replace media. No matter what it has one huge issue that i dont believe it will ever be able to overcome, and that is the space that is required to use one. My guess is that, just like it currently is, it will be a separate form of media, while the traditional form we have now will still dominate. I wouldn't be surprised if VR arcades will become the big thing.
As a PC Master Race Vive owner, I came to this video not expecting much, but I was surprised by the clear picture painted of PSVR, which until this point I had only heard bad things about, which made it sound unplayable, compared to the experience on one of the PC HMDs. Thanks for a great video George, you reminded me of why I got into VR in the first place! I'm off to play super modded skyrim VR! (it's literally the best)
SO great to hear someone FINALLY say something POSITIVE about VR! I've had my PSVR since Christmas 2016 and though it has been slow going at times, I do love it. Might I recommend two things: Firstly for exercise games, don't forget to try Sparc (which unfortunately is online only but REALLY good and has cross play with PC) and Knock Out League (literally Punch Out!! in VR). The other is...well...look up a game called Honor and Duty. It's a cheap $7 FPS which got VR patched in and for some reason it has better Aim support than most AAA games and it has 10-player online. Good luck getting a match but even just playing the cheap hoard-esque single player is a hoot for $7.
you said everything i wanted to say about vr. I bought an htc vive and i have not regret it to this day. games like pavlov, onward orbus, gorn, and fight of your life, fufill that childhood dream of playing in a virtual space.
There will always be a sub-sect of people who this technology can never work with. People with eye problems, neck/leg/back problems. Things that simply sitting on a couch with a controller, far from the screen can work for them, whereas moving the body around and having the screen so close to their eyes can't. Being a person who has mild eye strain, I can't really watch 3d movies because it begins to physically hurt me after a while. While there are things VR can do, there will always be a limiting factor in the playerbase for these and probably other reasons.
Of course, but the deaf can't listen to radio shows or podcasts, and the blind couldn't enjoy pre-sound films (and even now, they still only have access to part of the experience). My brother gets a headache after watching 3D films, too, and I myself might not be able to use VR because of my own eye problems. It does suck, but with every new piece of technology, some group gets left out. However, at least in some cases, we can try to find workarounds.
This is the PSVR video review I've been waiting for. I recently had the opportunity to play with a Vive at roomscale for 2h straight, and I was blown away by the experience. It was my first actual VR experience outside of my crappy Gear VR headset. I enjoyed it so much that I began researching the cost associated with a Vive, and contemplated buying a computer and the headset and the whole damn kit before realizing it would come up to like $2k CND. Next best option was the PSVR, but I had my doubts. I now know for a fact that I'm better off waiting for the next iteration of PS VR software. While the PSVR is very impressive, it's just not quite there yet in terms of the technology (and the price is still too high in Canada I think). Your video just helped quantify what I had already begun to suspect... that VR is awesome and it IS worth it, but there are limitations, and if you're ready to look past those limitations then go for it, and if not, maybe wait and see what the next iteration will bring.
Agreed on all points. I'm a Dell Visor user and I think the dollar to performance ratio is highest with that headset. I got mine used for 160. Only major drawback is a lack of support, though Steam VR is now supported.
This though, I've got the Lenovo Explorer (kinda wish I had gotten the Visor though) and while SteamVR integration is there it's sometimes pretty rough in games that don't say they support WMR. When it works though it's just as good as the vive and that massive play area is great.
The front mounted camera solution on WMR headsets is ingenious really. No setup time whatsoever. I'm bummed as well about games that don't specifically state WMR support. VorpX is the same way; some forum posts say it's compatible, some say it isn't.
George, I can say with full confidence that yours is my favorite TH-cam channel. No one else makes me as giddy to see a "New" tag next to a video. Thank you for what you do, and please keep up the excellent work c:
I'm so glad to see this video! For every well known games youtuber that gives VR a glowing reviewer there folks who spoke ill of it now reconsidering, and those that were on the fence may decide to take the plunge (assuming the financial possibility of doing so).
As an HTC vive owner, the idea of consoles and Oculus competing only leads to a better product. I know the psvr is not as good as a vive or Oculus, but if the next psvr is capable of overcoming them, i can only be more excited for future PC hardware.
I am opening a VR Arcade in TN, I wish you could just come check out our stations. If you're loving the PSVR that much, it would be great to see how much you like having a 20ft x 20ft space using an HTC Vive Pro that has the wireless kit. Room-scale VR is so much fun and it's a bummer that the PSVR has such a limited FoV.
If you have a decent computer (IE haswell cpu, GTX 1050 TI and up) you might want to check out Windows Mixed Reality. You can get a Dell Visor with the controllers for ~$270 and especially in major titles like superhot vr and job simulator it'll track nearly as well as the vive and leagues better than PSVR.
I'm so happy to see a major person in video games speak optimistically regarding VR. All I ever read about it is that it's a gimmick, it has novelty. But I've been doing VR stuff for close to 3 years now and love every minute of it. I seriously can't get enough. And I'm using cobbled together phone VR and software to play PC games (used to be Cardboard + Trinus, now I use GearVR + Riftcat). I can't wait to actually get a Vive.
As soon as a complete VR setups hit the sub $300 price, I suspect that a lot of the "VR is just a gimmick!" detractors will suddenly be changing their tune now that they can afford it.
This is one of the best films on TH-cam ever. Relevant, to the point. Like real journalism. I can’t explain how much I love it. I have a CV1 and “should know” most of what you’re speaking of, but still you added to my knowledge. Excellent
Coverage like this is the kind of advocacy I hope to continue trickling in along VR's path to omnipresence over the next decade. ty for helping the culture jorge
Resident Evil 7 PSVR absolutely blew my mind! I haven't been so blown away since the first time I played 007 Goldeneye or something similar. I felt like I was actually in some crappy broken down house in Louisiana. The first 3 hours or so of that game, and various moments later, I've never been more afraid in my life. It was my first VR experience and wow, talk about jumping into the deep end. Insane game.
Preach! As a Oculus owner myself I sincerely hope that VR will be a success and something that will stay and just improve in the future. And if PSVR is the workhorse that gets it into mainstream, so be it!
Oddly I think Microsoft will be helping with that too, the Mixed Reality headsets ...are SURPRISINGLY good and simple. I think their tech might be the one to get cheap, simple to set up VR in the house. Got one for $250 and room scale for that price? What the heeeell?? The Dell one is good, Lenovo is too but apparently the Samsung one is supposed to be super good with (currently) the best screens of any headset.
This so much. I've got the Lenovo Explorer (dell visor is better though) and it's great. Especially in games that explicitly support it like Superhot VR and Job Simulator it's just as smooth as vive but at psvr pricing and I can actually turn around. Plus if you've got a gaming laptop and are willing to strap it to your back the inside out tracking means it can use functionally near infinite play areas. Theres a video on youtube somewhere of a guy mapping it to a 30 foot by 30 foot room and it didn't even stutter letting him walk around it in game.
I heard the Lenovo one was better from a review. I've been enjoying the dell but what have you heard between the two? I haven't tried Superhot or Job Simulator but I tried The Lab, Star Wars Droid Repair, Gorn, End Space and Space Pirate Trainer and it's worked really well. Like you said actually being able to turn around being a solid thing since the Vive only comes with the two sensors and that doesn't give you the same movement obviously. That's really insane, walking around that much. I'd guess he did the tracing or otherwise you'd totally risk bumping into a wall or whatever.
It is interesting seeing more people coming around to VR now. SmarterEverydays video on VR goes in a different direction, but his experience with even farther developement lead to a similar opinion to Georges, 'this is the future and i'm onboard with this now after seeing the way forward'.
I'm five months into PSVR and the honeymoon is still on. We need more AAA games though, especially RPGs, but that will come. I'm already addicted now, but next gen VR is going to be off the hook.
It's great to see a video covering VR that is positive and optimistic. I never understand why so many in the mainstream press are so cynical and negative towards it, usually complaining over how difficult it is for them to cover and that it's too much work to do so. While iv'e never had the opportunity to experience it myself I always thought it looked exciting. Glad to hear that are some who see it as such. Thanks George
Ok. So it’s not just me that thinks PS VR is great. :) VR is in its infancy but it has great potential. I hope it keeps evolving and we eventually get our version of the PS4 in VR (hardware, software, fidelity, etc). I had the same reaction as George when I bought my PSVR. One year later and I still like it. I bought it because of Resident Evil 7. I thought it looked great in VR and I was not disappointed. Resident Evil 7 brings out some of the best that PSVR currently offers. I hope they keep improving because there is vast potential there. Not just for games but a whole new way of experiencing media in every day life. I watch movies with my PSVR. It’s like being in the heaters with a large screen display.
Ha, ha! We finally have a legitimately compelling need to truly push higher resolutions and faster rendering in hardware, but Oops it coincides with a bafflingly massive overvaluation of virtual currencies and now no one can afford a decent video card ever again.
Also I want to say this video convinced me to get back into VR. I bought the whole PSVR bundle for Christmas, and due to a variety of circumstances I didn't really get into it. I've been strapped for money and considering just selling it all. But after seeing this video I've changed my mind. I can't pass up the chance to share in George's sheer, addled happiness.
I also think owning PSVR made ready player one a much more fun movie cause you can relate to it more. That future for videogames is going to be amazing.
I've spend a lot of time with all three major headsets, owning two of them and the Mk-2 of the Rift. I've been into VR since the 90's and I think I enjoy my PSVR more than any other headset. It has such a solid construction and is comfortable to wear. The price was nice and the software offerings are pretty great too. Of all the VR purchases I've made over the years, PSVR is the one I'm most happy with.
Huw Guyver I know Gamestop is doing a special trade in deal. 170 for your old ps4, brings the pro to 260. Just traded in a week ago. In terms of graphics there is a very noticable difference. Text becomes much easier to read, graphics get an overall view distance becomes less fuzzy and tracking becomes slightly better Since there is a special going on i would get it but having the normal ps4 for VR is still fine on its own. But the difference is very noticeable
This might be the first time I hear someone say that VR is gonna be the future of gaming. Guess I'm gonna have to get some headset and decide for myself, once I have enough money... in like 10 years...
As much of a problem as motion sickness is, I can't help but wish there were more free-movement-full-scale games in VR. Those just always feel like a better investment.
When I got my headset, on PC, I never played without locomotion and free movement. I was able to handle everything fine with no sickness. Same for my whole family. Played Xing and Talos principle, 3D puzzle/exploration games are great in VR. Teleportation feels like a hack now, unless the dev gives me an immersive reason for teleporting - it completely removes me from the experience
That bit at the end about VR video got me really interested. Your joy and excitement about these games and this tech was infectious. I think I get where you're coming from with the nostalgia angle. I haven't felt that jump in gaming like I did during other generations. Seeing the video for Rogue Squadron on the Gamecube, seeing Gears of War on an HDTV or playing Wii Sports Tennis. It sounds like VR has done that for you. I'll have to give it a try. Great video :D
video time : 21:24 How long it felt : 21h: 24m : 30s so informative and you know how to squeeze alot of information in such a small time. jesus why havnt i found this channel before. +1 sub goodsir.
I don't think people realize how revolutioanry this is going to be. Just imagine how this will change everything, art galleries, theatre, concerts, cinema, watching movies with friends.
Art galleries -> Except people go to art galleries to actually see the art. You can already see digital representations of most art galleries but people still prefer to see the real thing. So VR will help basically nobody. Theatre -> The streaming costs would be astronomical and if you're doing a home experience you might as well just pop in the DVD or use your smart TV to play it in your living room. Cinemas would be unwilling to use a large quantity of VR headsets because of the expense and the fact that they *will* be lost, damaged, or stolen regularly, and directors and filmmakers would generally be unwilling to use it because you cannot make a good cinematic experience without cinematography, which is something you lose if you try making VR films. And if you mean stage-play theatres, then we jump into another realm of problems where you'd actively damage the business of theatres. Same with concerts. I rather think you are *severely* overestimating the capabilities, much less usefulness or practicality, of VR, my friend.
An art gallery isn't just a bunch of frames hanging on walls, space takes a huge part of what makes an art gallery interesting. Besides, people can't just go to all art galleries in the world because they don't have the money or the time to do it. I don't know if streaming a play would be very expensive. Just imagine the actors and actresses acting via VR in front of a group of spectators. There a few games that do this sort of thing, like VR chat or Comedy Night. Anyway, that's not actually my point. What I am trying to say is that this gives accessibility to experiences that we could not do otherwise
Awesome review! I'm almost a year and still blown away every time I put the headset on. There's so many great games I've got at least 30 games I'd consider must have titles. I have trouble playing regular flat screen games anymore, nothing against them, I've been a flat screen gamer since the early 80's, I'm just thoroughly obsessive about all things VR. M only concern is Sony needs to introduce new controllers, the Move controllers work well, but have limits, I'd be happy with just a version of them with analog sticks. Thanks for the positivity!
Damn good PS VR rundown. I'm someone who's owned it since launch, I'm seriously a fan. Thank you for this honest, informative take! You also earned yourself a subscriber.
We're already starting to get to that point. Windows Mixed Reality with any luck will be doing what directx did for 3d acceleration in the 90s. Plus since they've been marketed so poorly you can get a Dell Visor with the controllers for like $270 right now.
And good enough to be worth accessing it. You could drop the price of everything George showed in this video to $20 and I still wouldn't buy it because of all the other problems with it. I still can't believe Sony only uses one camera and they reused the old PS Move controllers that weren't even great for their intended purpose.
mjc0961 a lot of people do not want vr; No matter what it costs. I don’t want to strap a screen to my forehead to play my ps4 even if it was included for free.
Using the psvr for non vr games is fantastic too. I only have a small 720 hp TV, so while it is a bit blurry, using the vr gives me a WAY bigger screen. The immersion still works
I was scrolling through the comments and that whimper at the end scared the crap out of me. in my headphones, it sounded like there was a little girl behind me. great breakdown of the VR stuff. I haven't been paying attention to it so this was a pretty interesting video. ill share it with some people I know who are interested in this
I purchased a Dell Visor Windows MR headset recently for the same reason: the price dropped low enough for me to risk it. The only 'made for VR' game I have is Elite Dangerous, but man did it blow me away. I think this has the potential to turn walking simulators into something far more immersive, and I am extremely pumped to see how developers make use of it. I'm using VorpX to replay all my favorites and the results are mostly hit with some miss. Once I got Fallout: NV set up, it is one of the best RPG experiences I've had. Playing Insurgency is one of the most hectic experiences I've had and replaying Half Life in full VR breathes new life into that game for me. I'm excited, but at the same time, worried, because the low consumer uptake may dissuade developers. Anyway, splurged on Superhot VR now. You sold me.
I got the PSVR about two months ago and everything you've said has pretty much mirrored my own thoughts. It really does feel like the future, the first time I booted up PlayStation Worlds I was giddy with excitement. Oh, one good thing about the front facing camera at least is if you have a swiveling computer chair, you can easily sit down for a lot of games. Funny enough, Arizona Sunshine is probably my favorite PSVR game and I finished the campaign in a chair.
I haven't really been excited by VR in a few years now, but this video made me want to run out and buy a PSVR. Which I can't, because money. Damn fine content as always, George.
You are the only one I've seen talk about how good Rec Room is. Not only is it free but its also the best Vr game on Pc as well. The amount of content you get for free and the fact you can play it with Ps4, Vive, and Oculus players is amazing. It deserves so much more attention.
Man this video recaptures a lot of the enthusiasm I have for the VR market. Which reminds me I need to set up the PSVR on my new PS4 Pro so I can play Skyrim VR. I also want to check out that Farpoint game, but there definitely need to be more full-games done in VR in the style of Resident Evil 7.
As an upcoming graduate this May in Simulation and Game Design, this video had me pumped! I've made two VR games so far and wow have I learned a millions things not to do. It's really exciting because I don't feel like I'm just retreading old ground that hundreds if not thousands of game studios have done before. Take UI for example. How many different types of traditional menu screens have there been? Then you switch to VR and now a simple start screen has so many possibilities and challenges.
William Clare It could change cinema, as in physical cinema however. Once the resolution gets high enough, you could replicate an IMAX theater perfectly in VR and it would be no different from a real one. Infact, from a quality perspective, it would be better.
Continuously shot films exist tough and films could have slight paused between scene transitions, as does theater. You could also go into a virtual cinema and watch the film live with a web crowd. Video games also equally rely on on editing (the boring stuff is skipped) as film/shows and even bare bones looking games as Superhot have a sense of cinematography in the way levels are presented. It´s not the early 90s anymore.
I've been a VR skeptic since the very beginning, but I must say that your enthusiasm is quite infectious. I had my first experience with VR last June: I was working at a local convention and I had to take care of a booth where we made people try out the HTC Vive. During those three days I played a little bit of Arizona Sunshine and the Archery minigame from The Lab. I thought that they were cool, but I didn't find them that impressive, to be honest. It might have been because there were a lot of technical problems with the HTC Vive, or the fact that while playing I would always get entangled in the wires, or the fact that the visor wasn't confortable to wear at all, or even the fact that those two games weren't that good (I mean, the archery minigame was actually really well made, but it wasn't as immersive as Arizona Sunshine, so it wasn't as good of a showcase for the technology). Maybe (most likely, actually) the problem is that the technology is still really rough and expensive, while the software is still very rudimental. But I didn't think of this situation as you did, as a new beginning for the gaming landscape. Thinking of VR like this is actually really intriguing. It's like we are now in an Atari 2600-like era, thinking of how things will mature and get better is pretty exciting. Especially because, as you said in the video, being excited with new hardware and innovations with traditional videogames is becoming more and more difficult as time goes on. This is refreshing.
Gave it the credit it deserves but pointed out the issues that need to be fixed. Glad you enjoy it, I love mine. The Wipeout Omega VR update is killer.
I think 5 years is a bit too long, but my guess is PSVR 2 will be the real take off point of it. The PS5 will have better hardware, the PSVR 2 will have better hardware and the devs will have had 5-8 years worth of dev time under their belts to figure out things. That's my guess. It almost took off this gen, but I don't think the hardware was quite there and neither was the games.
The problem is there is so meny diffrent ways to controll VR and there is no setstandards yet and therfor no game will prob be real big hitter even if your avg joe buy vr you prob have to make a seperate version for like 3-4 diffrent "types" of vr...and it dose not seem to be as easy like porting PS to PC or smth...
Your loss. Also psvr has taken off, people are just comparing it to ps4 which is 8th gen console which psvr is first gen and requires a ps4 to even use. It was over the 2m mark in psvr sales at the end of 2017 and I've only heard of increasing number of sales since then.
Im actually going to school to develop programs for VR, and just as you said, Google Maps VR is one of the best applications of VR. Not only is this something that I think is gonna change media, but It can offer so much to those who arnt able to experience things in the real world. And with now PC free VR becoming viable, we can bring those experiences to the bed-ridden and terminally ill. We can have kids who are stuck in a bed going through multiple cancer treatments travel to their wildest dreams. We can have retirement homes have VR experiences where they can visit their old home and go on vacations without leaving the safety of their living space. Introverts can watch brand new movies in the comfort of their own home without having to worry about finding a seat that isnt covered in Soda and mysterious liquid.
I know I have mentioned most of what I have to say here in emails to the podcast, but here goes. It feels great to see you finally getting the VR bug, for me that happened... FIVE YEARS AGO, with the Oculus DK1. It's amazing what kind of stuff we have now, both software and hardware. I have the Rift and Vive, and the Vive is contrary to what many think perfectly valid for tiny rooms. The wide coverage of the Lighthouse tracking made it easy for me to play VR games in a tiny bedroom when I was between apartments. I mostly played just standing, but with the ability to crouch all the way down and turn 360. Being limited by the field of view of a camera feels so 2014 (DK2). Coincidentally, I watched this in my Daydream View, in bed, it's great for video when I should be asleep. And I get a huge screen and with a Pixel XL it looks very good too. This is what Oculus Go will be, your pocket cinema machine. I digress. Software, we have a crapload of it now, more than I can even consume even if I just try things once. Compared to the early devkit days, it's amazing, it is a bit sad to see large studios fumble with their releases though. Like Doom VFR on PC, it launched with _zero_ controller options. Even now when we have a few very essential option, the way they bound it makes me not enjoy the game. It's like they think VR would be needing even less personification than pancake gaming, while the reverse is probably true due to the whole locomotion thing. On the topic of pancakes, having played VR for half a decade it has been years since I found first person games, or any camera control game really, compelling. They feel like flat, like I remote control something, with abstracted controls. It's just... not the way I play anymore. Anyway, again, good to see you are enjoying ourself. VR has become a polarizing thing in the gaming world, somehow, there are vocal haters that probably have never tried it that dismisses it completely. Like saying color TV is a fad... or something. Anyhow, good night :)
Still skeptical given that George's own VR video showed he is one of those unusually good with getting around nausea, and speaking as someone who's experienced VR sickness in a variety of games, there is no way I'm dropping over $300 on something that has even a 50% chance of making me madly sick in any given game *shrug
You get a like for using that beautiful music in the end of the video alone, ah the memories, the rest of the stuff I pretty much agree with, so great job !
A video where George is actually talking about specific videogames?! Sign me up! Great video, and strange to see after just seeing Ready Player One earlier today. I'd love to hear what you think of the Bethesda VR games and just hearing more in the future from you about VR!
My main issue in regard to VR is that I struggle to see it as anything other than a glorified extension / evolution of the already existing first-person camera perspective. First-person games and movies (especially documentaries and guided tours) certainly have their place and can provide fantastic experiences, but they are A form of presentation, not necessarily THE one that every work should aspire to. There is a lot more to presentation than "immersion". If every game tries to be RE7, Skyrim, or Thief, then we'll lose out on REmake, Dark Souls, and MGS3. Could any of the latter games be made for VR without losing their respective voice and visual identity? Would there be a place for games like these in a VR-dominated market? I'm trying to be open-minded about VR but it seems to me that, even at its best, this technology will always just fill a certain niche. And I'm afraid that we might lose out on a lot of great things if this niche ever became the de facto norm. Then again, I'm not really interested in technology for technology's sake. System specs and various technical buzzwords mean very little to me. I want to see how technology can fuel genuine creativity without devaluing established tools. Are one technological step forward and two creative steps back really the future? Any thoughts?
VR can work for any genre out there aside from 2D games. 3rd person games like Moss work brilliantly and are very charming. RTS works surprisingly well. God perspective games are very compelling.
I thought the same thing too until I played Superhot VR back to back with Superhot. Superhot is kind of a stand out thing but how one to one the controls felt is one of those things you can't truly understand until you try it. The base game just feels lifeless now still fun but so much less... present? Think of it like the difference between wolfenstein 3d for DOS and half life.
I heard a good analogy. Imagine being in a truly amazing place, you hear the waterfall, birds singing, sun is shining etc. and then you show a picture you took of said place to someone and try to convey this feeling. That is how for me it feels to try and explain VR , I can't.
But that's okay. I completely understand how immersive and life-like it must be. My worry is that this specific type of immersion might be supplanting other, less emulative presentation types at some point.
Your main issue is fixed by simply trying psvr, oculus, or vive. You don't feel like you're looking at a screen, you look over and see someone in the game be it npc or another player and it feels like they are to scale, like looking over at an npc and him just being as large as you. Looking up at mountains or something and just being amazed by it's scale like you're looking up at a skyscrapper. There are gameplay stuff too, like ducking under a sword swing or under bullet fire, doing the things he mentioned in the video, the move controllers and stuff allowing pretty much for your hands to have free movement, even among two guns, and it just feels right in vr while out of it they just feel like wii controllers you're swinging at the screen. Looking around and picking things up, etc. The immersion and gameplay possibilities are endless, it's literally a 2d to 3d level of upgrade, if not more. It makes just about any game better if it's properly made, yes some games suck but those games would suck even more out of vr, but good games are made great, great are made amazing, etc. Resident Evil 7 was a solid game, well it's one of the best games around in vr. Also the reason why tech is important is because you need to do it on two screens and you need all the other stuff going on, also it's pretty much required to have steady 60fps or 120fps to be comfortable in vr. Also regarding the 2 screens, it doesn't feel like two screens, it feels like you're in the game and you even have peripheral vision realistically done. You think it's not the best thing since sliced bread since you haven't tried it honestly. Heck it even improves games where you aren't the character, even 2d platformers are better in vr. You'll find yourself liking genres you previously didn't because of vr. You should get vr RIGHT NOW and subscribe to a channel like psvr without parole to avoid the sucky games like the justice league vr game that was essentially just a few mini games meant to be used as an ad for the movie. PSVR genuinely has better exclusives than xbox one does.
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I want hipster scarf-wearing George to show up in future episodes, and every time he does he's wearing one more scarf. Eventually his head will just be a big ball of scarves.
This can become the new noodles
The scarf is a symbol of indiependence from the. collective prison of our own reality, scarf are the future.
Esteban Rodríguez a scarf made of noodles.
A Noodle-Scarf wearing George that is also made of noodles.
i think that was in some way a nod to the Nostalgia Critic: he indeed looked like his twin XD
This is such a great mix of genuinely informative content with just the right amount of humor to prevent infodump exhaustion. This is why I love watching your video even tho I'm probably never gonna get into PS or VR.
I would agree
Its just a joke video. You can hear it by him saying "I truly believe its not a gimmick" and so on.
he's being completely genuine, though.... the only "joke" is the persona he adopts for the buzzword speech. the rest of the video is him being completely enamored with VR. he *truly* does believe that it's not a gimmick.
That's really depressing.
that's pretty cynical - the guy is clearly super excited for this technology now that it's actually getting somewhere and wants to see people do amazing things with it (which a number of developers already have). what's depressing about that? new creative means and exploration of the ways we do what we do are not at all depressing. if you feel that games "should" be played a certain way, you really need to consider that at one point video games themselves were the same kind of gimmick, as well as any number of the different control schemes being tried out for them.
Yeah, I was sceptical about VR too, until I tried a set out two years ago. Took the plunge only a few weeks later, as the Vive just hit the market, and since then, a vast majority of my gaming time has beein in VR.
ColeusRattus same here. After 2 years the vive still kicks ass
Excellent video. Editing, performance, pacing, script - all professional and personal. An absolute pleasure to watch your videos and hear your thoughts on games and gaming. Thanks!
RE7 showed me the true future of VR. Man that game is awesome.
For reallll
you look like nostalgia critic in the intro
Daniel Yahalom but good looking
Poor George!
You and me both know that he looks like David Cage in the intro.
He couldn't have picked a worse time to look like him.
He reminded me more of Darren Aronofsky more than anyone.
This is the only positive review and outlook on VR I've ever seen outside of sensationalist journalism websites aimed at 40 year olds. And that's interesting because it comes from a guy who turned out to be a mutant insusceptible to motion sickness (within reason). And as the voice I trust the most when it comes to commentary and editorials on gaming, you sir have got me maybe re-thinking my position on VR.
As someone who started in the highly susceptible category of VR sickness and graduated to middle of the road on the spectrum (I usually have to use the mild 'comfort setting' in fast movement games), it's not as big of a deal as people tend to rail about. There's basically two things that make you sick, and that's yaw/roll and acceleration (note I didn't say movement, specifically acceleration) when independent from your body. Most games design around this.
Yaw/roll is only really a concern in cockpit games. Developers design around this either by not having it or, more commonly, offering comfort settings that add slightly thicker frames on the struts between window panes or an extra crossbeam. It doesn't take much to resolve the issue. If I use no comfort settings, yaw usually has me wanting to puke within a minute or two. If I use the lowest comfort setting in flight games (as in least obtrusive), I can play for hours fine.
The second is acceleration and most games simply mitigate that by instantly jumping you to the next tier of speed when using indirect control Unless I'm rapidly switching speeds over and over, I can play for great lengths of time fine here as well.
For anything that isn't exclusively roomscale or uses teleporting in combination with roomscale, there's an adjustment period. It's not a great sales pitch and I get that can turn people away, but it's not a big hurdle either and VR is truly amazing. Starting out a few roomscale games gets your brain comfortable in VR and will cause no nausea, period. After that, move onto other games and play them as you would. Begin playing non-1:1 movement games with high comfort settings and lower them over time. Generally speaking, this isn't a per-game thing unless that game is poorly coded. If you find yourself adapting to one, you're adapting to all of them.
If you start to feel unusually warm for your level of activity, take a break as that's the sign that nausea will follow. After a week or two, you'll notice that it'll take significantly longer for that unusually warm feeling to come on. I've yet to meet someone who within a few weeks, couldn't play a non-1:1 movement game on mild comfort settings for extended periods of time.
And while VR sickness is the inverse of traditional motion sickness, playing VR has significantly helped me with motion sickness when reading in cars and trains.
Nice to see people start to appreciate the magic of feeling like you are literally in a video game.
I thought I'd unsubscribed from this channel after all those 60 times I promised the zaibatsu!
Carlos Hernandez do it then resubscribe in 10 seconds
why is harry potter preaching about virtual reality
omg how did I meet you again
yiff me
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Because Harry Potter VR would be sick. An adaptation of the first movie in VR.
I recently got PSVR and it has been eyeopening. I have loved it so far and it was my first time experiencing VR. Hopefully the PS5 will be designed on improving the potential room-scale and lack of ports. (Though I recommend charging docks for controllers, its yet another expense but if it plugs directly into the wall, it solves the lack of port problem and keeps everything charged even while the console is off)
I feel like VR is not the future but a future.
I think he meant that as in VR will stand the test of time and isn't a fad. It obviously won't replace traditional video games or movies, but it can live alongside them.
I dont think that VR will ever replace media. No matter what it has one huge issue that i dont believe it will ever be able to overcome, and that is the space that is required to use one. My guess is that, just like it currently is, it will be a separate form of media, while the traditional form we have now will still dominate. I wouldn't be surprised if VR arcades will become the big thing.
Man Doug Walker sure has been taking it rough after his company got exposed.
Doing videogame reviews and stealing Super Bunnyhop's channel
DoodleWill
Wait what happened? Someone's stealing Super Bunnyhop's stuff?
Peter O'Donnell
Yeah I thought I recognized the name, what's the controversy?
Everyone is saying that!
It isn't Doug Walkers company, just FYI.
Personally, I want to know when we can watch a noodle bot in a Japanese street in 3D.
are the noodles in this video? I missed them if they were
As a PC Master Race Vive owner, I came to this video not expecting much, but I was surprised by the clear picture painted of PSVR, which until this point I had only heard bad things about, which made it sound unplayable, compared to the experience on one of the PC HMDs. Thanks for a great video George, you reminded me of why I got into VR in the first place!
I'm off to play super modded skyrim VR! (it's literally the best)
SO great to hear someone FINALLY say something POSITIVE about VR! I've had my PSVR since Christmas 2016 and though it has been slow going at times, I do love it.
Might I recommend two things: Firstly for exercise games, don't forget to try Sparc (which unfortunately is online only but REALLY good and has cross play with PC) and Knock Out League (literally Punch Out!! in VR).
The other is...well...look up a game called Honor and Duty. It's a cheap $7 FPS which got VR patched in and for some reason it has better Aim support than most AAA games and it has 10-player online. Good luck getting a match but even just playing the cheap hoard-esque single player is a hoot for $7.
you said everything i wanted to say about vr. I bought an htc vive and i have not regret it to this day. games like pavlov, onward orbus, gorn, and fight of your life, fufill that childhood dream of playing in a virtual space.
There will always be a sub-sect of people who this technology can never work with. People with eye problems, neck/leg/back problems. Things that simply sitting on a couch with a controller, far from the screen can work for them, whereas moving the body around and having the screen so close to their eyes can't.
Being a person who has mild eye strain, I can't really watch 3d movies because it begins to physically hurt me after a while.
While there are things VR can do, there will always be a limiting factor in the playerbase for these and probably other reasons.
Of course, but the deaf can't listen to radio shows or podcasts, and the blind couldn't enjoy pre-sound films (and even now, they still only have access to part of the experience). My brother gets a headache after watching 3D films, too, and I myself might not be able to use VR because of my own eye problems.
It does suck, but with every new piece of technology, some group gets left out. However, at least in some cases, we can try to find workarounds.
Well I guess we should cancel the entire thing then.
“YOUR PLAYSTATION HOLES WILL BE FILLED”
-George Weidman, Super Bunnyhop 2018
And of course you add Deus Ex music at the end. I love your essays man.
Started the video with a remix of "Blade Runner," so it's not too surprising!
This is the PSVR video review I've been waiting for.
I recently had the opportunity to play with a Vive at roomscale for 2h straight, and I was blown away by the experience. It was my first actual VR experience outside of my crappy Gear VR headset. I enjoyed it so much that I began researching the cost associated with a Vive, and contemplated buying a computer and the headset and the whole damn kit before realizing it would come up to like $2k CND.
Next best option was the PSVR, but I had my doubts. I now know for a fact that I'm better off waiting for the next iteration of PS VR software. While the PSVR is very impressive, it's just not quite there yet in terms of the technology (and the price is still too high in Canada I think). Your video just helped quantify what I had already begun to suspect... that VR is awesome and it IS worth it, but there are limitations, and if you're ready to look past those limitations then go for it, and if not, maybe wait and see what the next iteration will bring.
Agreed on all points. I'm a Dell Visor user and I think the dollar to performance ratio is highest with that headset. I got mine used for 160. Only major drawback is a lack of support, though Steam VR is now supported.
This though, I've got the Lenovo Explorer (kinda wish I had gotten the Visor though) and while SteamVR integration is there it's sometimes pretty rough in games that don't say they support WMR. When it works though it's just as good as the vive and that massive play area is great.
The front mounted camera solution on WMR headsets is ingenious really. No setup time whatsoever. I'm bummed as well about games that don't specifically state WMR support. VorpX is the same way; some forum posts say it's compatible, some say it isn't.
George, I can say with full confidence that yours is my favorite TH-cam channel. No one else makes me as giddy to see a "New" tag next to a video. Thank you for what you do, and please keep up the excellent work c:
Get Wipeout Omega Collection and play it in VR! Thank me later :)
Sutrabla it’s so good
My friend puked when we tried out 2048 lol
Are they still doing that online pass garbage
The VR update for Wipeout Omega Collection is completely free, if that is what you mean.
I'm so glad to see this video! For every well known games youtuber that gives VR a glowing reviewer there folks who spoke ill of it now reconsidering, and those that were on the fence may decide to take the plunge (assuming the financial possibility of doing so).
I am like 90% sure PS5 will have new VR and move controllers at launch to fix some of those issues and maximise attach rate
New camera too.
Possibly the new move controller could even be connected together switch joycon style to be standard controllers out of VR.
As an HTC vive owner, the idea of consoles and Oculus competing only leads to a better product.
I know the psvr is not as good as a vive or Oculus, but if the next psvr is capable of overcoming them, i can only be more excited for future PC hardware.
oh boy you're lucky i cant even afford a vive or a beast pc for the vive so im stuck with the badly-tracked move controllers
I am opening a VR Arcade in TN, I wish you could just come check out our stations. If you're loving the PSVR that much, it would be great to see how much you like having a 20ft x 20ft space using an HTC Vive Pro that has the wireless kit. Room-scale VR is so much fun and it's a bummer that the PSVR has such a limited FoV.
this video has actually convinced me to buy PSVR when it gets a bit cheaper. Thanks for the vid, george
If you have a decent computer (IE haswell cpu, GTX 1050 TI and up) you might want to check out Windows Mixed Reality. You can get a Dell Visor with the controllers for ~$270 and especially in major titles like superhot vr and job simulator it'll track nearly as well as the vive and leagues better than PSVR.
Dec I'll look into it since I've actually got a 1050 ti. Thanks!
I'm so happy to see a major person in video games speak optimistically regarding VR. All I ever read about it is that it's a gimmick, it has novelty. But I've been doing VR stuff for close to 3 years now and love every minute of it. I seriously can't get enough. And I'm using cobbled together phone VR and software to play PC games (used to be Cardboard + Trinus, now I use GearVR + Riftcat). I can't wait to actually get a Vive.
As soon as a complete VR setups hit the sub $300 price, I suspect that a lot of the "VR is just a gimmick!" detractors will suddenly be changing their tune now that they can afford it.
Since I got a mainstream PC headset I haven't gone back to PSVR, but this video made me smile. I might jack back in and see how it is.
I tried out a PSVR at my local Walmart for 5 mins, it was great!, Not to nauseating, but I still felt a bit nauseus, I'm Thinking about buying one
Irony is a weapon Fortunately the nausea factor is on a game by game basis. If you purchase one just try out the demos before you make a purchase
Chris Larose, Yeah, I'll make sure to do that, before I play most games
It's not terrible, but you should probably check exactly what games you want to play in it, and see if it's worth the price.
It was okay in my opinion
"Thinking about buying one" is about as far as most people get lol
This is one of the best films on TH-cam ever. Relevant, to the point. Like real journalism. I can’t explain how much I love it. I have a CV1 and “should know” most of what you’re speaking of, but still you added to my knowledge. Excellent
Coverage like this is the kind of advocacy I hope to continue trickling in along VR's path to omnipresence over the next decade. ty for helping the culture jorge
Resident Evil 7 PSVR absolutely blew my mind! I haven't been so blown away since the first time I played 007 Goldeneye or something similar. I felt like I was actually in some crappy broken down house in Louisiana. The first 3 hours or so of that game, and various moments later, I've never been more afraid in my life. It was my first VR experience and wow, talk about jumping into the deep end. Insane game.
Preach! As a Oculus owner myself I sincerely hope that VR will be a success and something that will stay and just improve in the future. And if PSVR is the workhorse that gets it into mainstream, so be it!
Yes it will make it mainstream like 3DS made 3D gaming mainstream :^)
CATSFever most people who owned the 3ds turned off the 3D
Oddly I think Microsoft will be helping with that too, the Mixed Reality headsets ...are SURPRISINGLY good and simple.
I think their tech might be the one to get cheap, simple to set up VR in the house. Got one for $250 and room scale for that price? What the heeeell?? The Dell one is good, Lenovo is too but apparently the Samsung one is supposed to be super good with (currently) the best screens of any headset.
This so much. I've got the Lenovo Explorer (dell visor is better though) and it's great. Especially in games that explicitly support it like Superhot VR and Job Simulator it's just as smooth as vive but at psvr pricing and I can actually turn around. Plus if you've got a gaming laptop and are willing to strap it to your back the inside out tracking means it can use functionally near infinite play areas. Theres a video on youtube somewhere of a guy mapping it to a 30 foot by 30 foot room and it didn't even stutter letting him walk around it in game.
I heard the Lenovo one was better from a review. I've been enjoying the dell but what have you heard between the two?
I haven't tried Superhot or Job Simulator but I tried The Lab, Star Wars Droid Repair, Gorn, End Space and Space Pirate Trainer and it's worked really well. Like you said actually being able to turn around being a solid thing since the Vive only comes with the two sensors and that doesn't give you the same movement obviously.
That's really insane, walking around that much. I'd guess he did the tracing or otherwise you'd totally risk bumping into a wall or whatever.
It is interesting seeing more people coming around to VR now. SmarterEverydays video on VR goes in a different direction, but his experience with even farther developement lead to a similar opinion to Georges, 'this is the future and i'm onboard with this now after seeing the way forward'.
You honestly cured my pessimism about this technology, well done.
Endril D. Yeah I was just about to post something along your lines ;)
He is right. I have bern playing VR for 2 years and it still blows my mind. Totally in love with VR
I'm five months into PSVR and the honeymoon is still on. We need more AAA games though, especially RPGs, but that will come. I'm already addicted now, but next gen VR is going to be off the hook.
It's great to see a video covering VR that is positive and optimistic. I never understand why so many in the mainstream press are so cynical and negative towards it, usually complaining over how difficult it is for them to cover and that it's too much work to do so. While iv'e never had the opportunity to experience it myself I always thought it looked exciting. Glad to hear that are some who see it as such. Thanks George
Huh? All press coverage o read was insanely positive. The only negatives are how low traffic all the stories are.
Ok. So it’s not just me that thinks PS VR is great. :) VR is in its infancy but it has great potential. I hope it keeps evolving and we eventually get our version of the PS4 in VR (hardware, software, fidelity, etc). I had the same reaction as George when I bought my PSVR. One year later and I still like it. I bought it because of Resident Evil 7. I thought it looked great in VR and I was not disappointed. Resident Evil 7 brings out some of the best that PSVR currently offers. I hope they keep improving because there is vast potential there. Not just for games but a whole new way of experiencing media in every day life. I watch movies with my PSVR. It’s like being in the heaters with a large screen display.
Seeing George happy makes me happy.
Ha, ha! We finally have a legitimately compelling need to truly push higher resolutions and faster rendering in hardware, but Oops it coincides with a bafflingly massive overvaluation of virtual currencies and now no one can afford a decent video card ever again.
I've had my PSVR since launch week and the honeymoon period still isn't over. I love it and play it every weekend
Are you cosplaying as the dude from Katawa Shoujo?
He might be!!
Those damned feminists! They're the ones stopping the VR revolution!
amazing
Also I want to say this video convinced me to get back into VR. I bought the whole PSVR bundle for Christmas, and due to a variety of circumstances I didn't really get into it. I've been strapped for money and considering just selling it all.
But after seeing this video I've changed my mind. I can't pass up the chance to share in George's sheer, addled happiness.
I also think owning PSVR made ready player one a much more fun movie cause you can relate to it more.
That future for videogames is going to be amazing.
I've spend a lot of time with all three major headsets, owning two of them and the Mk-2 of the Rift. I've been into VR since the 90's and I think I enjoy my PSVR more than any other headset. It has such a solid construction and is comfortable to wear. The price was nice and the software offerings are pretty great too. Of all the VR purchases I've made over the years, PSVR is the one I'm most happy with.
Love my PSVR, got it as a gift and i now play the PSVR more than my regular PS4. Traded for pro just for it
Flyingclam I'm on the OG PS4 and I am loving my PSVR as it is. Do you reckon getting a Pro is worth it?
Huw Guyver I know Gamestop is doing a special trade in deal. 170 for your old ps4, brings the pro to 260. Just traded in a week ago. In terms of graphics there is a very noticable difference. Text becomes much easier to read, graphics get an overall view distance becomes less fuzzy and tracking becomes slightly better
Since there is a special going on i would get it but having the normal ps4 for VR is still fine on its own. But the difference is very noticeable
Flyingclam thanks for the info. I might have to look into upgrading.
no. its not.
So I upgraded to the Pro and yes it was worth it, so thanks again. I'm even more hooked now lol
This might be the first time I hear someone say that VR is gonna be the future of gaming.
Guess I'm gonna have to get some headset and decide for myself, once I have enough money... in like 10 years...
As much of a problem as motion sickness is, I can't help but wish there were more free-movement-full-scale games in VR. Those just always feel like a better investment.
When I got my headset, on PC, I never played without locomotion and free movement.
I was able to handle everything fine with no sickness.
Same for my whole family. Played Xing and Talos principle, 3D puzzle/exploration games are great in VR.
Teleportation feels like a hack now, unless the dev gives me an immersive reason for teleporting - it completely removes me from the experience
That bit at the end about VR video got me really interested. Your joy and excitement about these games and this tech was infectious. I think I get where you're coming from with the nostalgia angle. I haven't felt that jump in gaming like I did during other generations. Seeing the video for Rogue Squadron on the Gamecube, seeing Gears of War on an HDTV or playing Wii Sports Tennis. It sounds like VR has done that for you. I'll have to give it a try. Great video :D
looking at the negative comments about PSVR, whats funny and evident, as they have Never even tried it lol.. your loss guys.
video time : 21:24
How long it felt : 21h: 24m : 30s
so informative and you know how to squeeze alot of information in such a small time. jesus why havnt i found this channel before.
+1 sub goodsir.
I don't think people realize how revolutioanry this is going to be. Just imagine how this will change everything, art galleries, theatre, concerts, cinema, watching movies with friends.
Art galleries -> Except people go to art galleries to actually see the art. You can already see digital representations of most art galleries but people still prefer to see the real thing. So VR will help basically nobody.
Theatre -> The streaming costs would be astronomical and if you're doing a home experience you might as well just pop in the DVD or use your smart TV to play it in your living room. Cinemas would be unwilling to use a large quantity of VR headsets because of the expense and the fact that they *will* be lost, damaged, or stolen regularly, and directors and filmmakers would generally be unwilling to use it because you cannot make a good cinematic experience without cinematography, which is something you lose if you try making VR films.
And if you mean stage-play theatres, then we jump into another realm of problems where you'd actively damage the business of theatres. Same with concerts.
I rather think you are *severely* overestimating the capabilities, much less usefulness or practicality, of VR, my friend.
An art gallery isn't just a bunch of frames hanging on walls, space takes a huge part of what makes an art gallery interesting. Besides, people can't just go to all art galleries in the world because they don't have the money or the time to do it.
I don't know if streaming a play would be very expensive. Just imagine the actors and actresses acting via VR in front of a group of spectators. There a few games that do this sort of thing, like VR chat or Comedy Night.
Anyway, that's not actually my point. What I am trying to say is that this gives accessibility to experiences that we could not do otherwise
Awesome review! I'm almost a year and still blown away every time I put the headset on. There's so many great games I've got at least 30 games I'd consider must have titles. I have trouble playing regular flat screen games anymore, nothing against them, I've been a flat screen gamer since the early 80's, I'm just thoroughly obsessive about all things VR. M only concern is Sony needs to introduce new controllers, the Move controllers work well, but have limits, I'd be happy with just a version of them with analog sticks. Thanks for the positivity!
Love my Rift. Have had it since july 2017. I still play pancake games more but VR has given me an amusement park in my house.
Damn good PS VR rundown. I'm someone who's owned it since launch, I'm seriously a fan. Thank you for this honest, informative take! You also earned yourself a subscriber.
Virtual reality will become the future when the technology becomes cheap enough that the average consumer can afford to access it.
by that time it'll be the present
And enough people even know it exist. Most people dont
We're already starting to get to that point. Windows Mixed Reality with any luck will be doing what directx did for 3d acceleration in the 90s. Plus since they've been marketed so poorly you can get a Dell Visor with the controllers for like $270 right now.
And good enough to be worth accessing it. You could drop the price of everything George showed in this video to $20 and I still wouldn't buy it because of all the other problems with it. I still can't believe Sony only uses one camera and they reused the old PS Move controllers that weren't even great for their intended purpose.
mjc0961 a lot of people do not want vr; No matter what it costs. I don’t want to strap a screen to my forehead to play my ps4 even if it was included for free.
So freaking refreshing to see a video essay on games that is about fun and how much fun you had playing and just genuine joy.
ONE OF US! ONE OF US!
Let us know when you break something
Using the psvr for non vr games is fantastic too. I only have a small 720 hp TV, so while it is a bit blurry, using the vr gives me a WAY bigger screen. The immersion still works
Great video. I thoroughly agree.
I was scrolling through the comments and that whimper at the end scared the crap out of me. in my headphones, it sounded like there was a little girl behind me. great breakdown of the VR stuff. I haven't been paying attention to it so this was a pretty interesting video. ill share it with some people I know who are interested in this
The video has just started and I am in love with George once again
Fall in love with every video upload.
I purchased a Dell Visor Windows MR headset recently for the same reason: the price dropped low enough for me to risk it. The only 'made for VR' game I have is Elite Dangerous, but man did it blow me away. I think this has the potential to turn walking simulators into something far more immersive, and I am extremely pumped to see how developers make use of it. I'm using VorpX to replay all my favorites and the results are mostly hit with some miss. Once I got Fallout: NV set up, it is one of the best RPG experiences I've had. Playing Insurgency is one of the most hectic experiences I've had and replaying Half Life in full VR breathes new life into that game for me.
I'm excited, but at the same time, worried, because the low consumer uptake may dissuade developers. Anyway, splurged on Superhot VR now. You sold me.
Racing and piloting games gonna be awesome..
I got the PSVR about two months ago and everything you've said has pretty much mirrored my own thoughts. It really does feel like the future, the first time I booted up PlayStation Worlds I was giddy with excitement. Oh, one good thing about the front facing camera at least is if you have a swiveling computer chair, you can easily sit down for a lot of games. Funny enough, Arizona Sunshine is probably my favorite PSVR game and I finished the campaign in a chair.
Its so weird to see George so exited and positive.
I haven't really been excited by VR in a few years now, but this video made me want to run out and buy a PSVR. Which I can't, because money. Damn fine content as always, George.
Been having a blast since Nov 2017, such a great time! :D
You are the only one I've seen talk about how good Rec Room is. Not only is it free but its also the best Vr game on Pc as well. The amount of content you get for free and the fact you can play it with Ps4, Vive, and Oculus players is amazing. It deserves so much more attention.
We hope to see more scarf wearing hipster George in the coming future.
Man this video recaptures a lot of the enthusiasm I have for the VR market. Which reminds me I need to set up the PSVR on my new PS4 Pro so I can play Skyrim VR. I also want to check out that Farpoint game, but there definitely need to be more full-games done in VR in the style of Resident Evil 7.
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As an upcoming graduate this May in Simulation and Game Design, this video had me pumped! I've made two VR games so far and wow have I learned a millions things not to do. It's really exciting because I don't feel like I'm just retreading old ground that hundreds if not thousands of game studios have done before. Take UI for example. How many different types of traditional menu screens have there been? Then you switch to VR and now a simple start screen has so many possibilities and challenges.
I'm a simple man, I see a video by Super Noodle Clip, I click.
That Superhot footage managed to get me really excited. I moved my head around to dodge in non-VR, so seeing it work is surreal.
VR might change video but it won’t change cinema. Cinema is editing and cinematography. VR can’t replace that.
William Clare It could change cinema, as in physical cinema however. Once the resolution gets high enough, you could replicate an IMAX theater perfectly in VR and it would be no different from a real one. Infact, from a quality perspective, it would be better.
Continuously shot films exist tough and films could have slight paused between scene transitions, as does theater. You could also go into a virtual cinema and watch the film live with a web crowd.
Video games also equally rely on on editing (the boring stuff is skipped) as film/shows and even bare bones looking games as Superhot have a sense of cinematography in the way levels are presented. It´s not the early 90s anymore.
I've been a VR skeptic since the very beginning, but I must say that your enthusiasm is quite infectious. I had my first experience with VR last June: I was working at a local convention and I had to take care of a booth where we made people try out the HTC Vive. During those three days I played a little bit of Arizona Sunshine and the Archery minigame from The Lab. I thought that they were cool, but I didn't find them that impressive, to be honest.
It might have been because there were a lot of technical problems with the HTC Vive, or the fact that while playing I would always get entangled in the wires, or the fact that the visor wasn't confortable to wear at all, or even the fact that those two games weren't that good (I mean, the archery minigame was actually really well made, but it wasn't as immersive as Arizona Sunshine, so it wasn't as good of a showcase for the technology).
Maybe (most likely, actually) the problem is that the technology is still really rough and expensive, while the software is still very rudimental. But I didn't think of this situation as you did, as a new beginning for the gaming landscape. Thinking of VR like this is actually really intriguing. It's like we are now in an Atari 2600-like era, thinking of how things will mature and get better is pretty exciting. Especially because, as you said in the video, being excited with new hardware and innovations with traditional videogames is becoming more and more difficult as time goes on. This is refreshing.
Good shit brother!
PSVR frank Aloha Frankie!
Heyy Frankie boy. Cool to see you here.
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LancerECNM hope your having fun with it! You should check out PSVR Without Parole and Polish Paul as well. Both great PSVR channels.
i second without parole. very chill psvr hippies!
Super happy you like PSVR so much. I’m in the same boat where I got it a couple weeks ago and am still smiling like a little kid at these games.
I love the people who act like they have money on VR failing.
Well, this convinced me to get into VR. Thank you George.
I love you, George! :D
Gave it the credit it deserves but pointed out the issues that need to be fixed. Glad you enjoy it, I love mine. The Wipeout Omega VR update is killer.
Meh...I'll give it 5 more years to cook before I dive in
I think 5 years is a bit too long, but my guess is PSVR 2 will be the real take off point of it. The PS5 will have better hardware, the PSVR 2 will have better hardware and the devs will have had 5-8 years worth of dev time under their belts to figure out things. That's my guess. It almost took off this gen, but I don't think the hardware was quite there and neither was the games.
The problem is there is so meny diffrent ways to controll VR and there is no setstandards yet and therfor no game will prob be real big hitter even if your avg joe buy vr you prob have to make a seperate version for like 3-4 diffrent "types" of vr...and it dose not seem to be as easy like porting PS to PC or smth...
Your loss.
Also psvr has taken off, people are just comparing it to ps4 which is 8th gen console which psvr is first gen and requires a ps4 to even use. It was over the 2m mark in psvr sales at the end of 2017 and I've only heard of increasing number of sales since then.
HopOnTheHype Last time I watched a video on VR only 1 percent of the gaming community owned a headset. I doubt it's much higher right now. lol
HopOnTheHype Well to put things in perspective, Kinect sold 8 million units and shipped 24 million units and it's dead.
Im actually going to school to develop programs for VR, and just as you said, Google Maps VR is one of the best applications of VR. Not only is this something that I think is gonna change media, but It can offer so much to those who arnt able to experience things in the real world. And with now PC free VR becoming viable, we can bring those experiences to the bed-ridden and terminally ill. We can have kids who are stuck in a bed going through multiple cancer treatments travel to their wildest dreams. We can have retirement homes have VR experiences where they can visit their old home and go on vacations without leaving the safety of their living space. Introverts can watch brand new movies in the comfort of their own home without having to worry about finding a seat that isnt covered in Soda and mysterious liquid.
All of that souds good, but the bad thing is i'm never gonna be able to buy this shit. Well, maybe 20 years later.
I know I have mentioned most of what I have to say here in emails to the podcast, but here goes.
It feels great to see you finally getting the VR bug, for me that happened... FIVE YEARS AGO, with the Oculus DK1. It's amazing what kind of stuff we have now, both software and hardware.
I have the Rift and Vive, and the Vive is contrary to what many think perfectly valid for tiny rooms. The wide coverage of the Lighthouse tracking made it easy for me to play VR games in a tiny bedroom when I was between apartments. I mostly played just standing, but with the ability to crouch all the way down and turn 360. Being limited by the field of view of a camera feels so 2014 (DK2).
Coincidentally, I watched this in my Daydream View, in bed, it's great for video when I should be asleep. And I get a huge screen and with a Pixel XL it looks very good too. This is what Oculus Go will be, your pocket cinema machine. I digress.
Software, we have a crapload of it now, more than I can even consume even if I just try things once. Compared to the early devkit days, it's amazing, it is a bit sad to see large studios fumble with their releases though. Like Doom VFR on PC, it launched with _zero_ controller options. Even now when we have a few very essential option, the way they bound it makes me not enjoy the game. It's like they think VR would be needing even less personification than pancake gaming, while the reverse is probably true due to the whole locomotion thing.
On the topic of pancakes, having played VR for half a decade it has been years since I found first person games, or any camera control game really, compelling. They feel like flat, like I remote control something, with abstracted controls. It's just... not the way I play anymore.
Anyway, again, good to see you are enjoying ourself. VR has become a polarizing thing in the gaming world, somehow, there are vocal haters that probably have never tried it that dismisses it completely. Like saying color TV is a fad... or something.
Anyhow, good night :)
I have zero interest in vr it just doesn't pull me in at all.Also there is no way I'm using a public vr
I have my PSVR for over a year and while I'm playing it far less than I used to, it's always a pure blast everytime I do!
Still skeptical given that George's own VR video showed he is one of those unusually good with getting around nausea, and speaking as someone who's experienced VR sickness in a variety of games, there is no way I'm dropping over $300 on something that has even a 50% chance of making me madly sick in any given game *shrug
You get a like for using that beautiful music in the end of the video alone, ah the memories, the rest of the stuff I pretty much agree with, so great job !
That moment when I was literally standing in the freaking Batcave was incredible. VR is absolutely incredible...
A video where George is actually talking about specific videogames?! Sign me up! Great video, and strange to see after just seeing Ready Player One earlier today. I'd love to hear what you think of the Bethesda VR games and just hearing more in the future from you about VR!
My main issue in regard to VR is that I struggle to see it as anything other than a glorified extension / evolution of the already existing first-person camera perspective.
First-person games and movies (especially documentaries and guided tours) certainly have their place and can provide fantastic experiences, but they are A form of presentation, not necessarily THE one that every work should aspire to. There is a lot more to presentation than "immersion".
If every game tries to be RE7, Skyrim, or Thief, then we'll lose out on REmake, Dark Souls, and MGS3. Could any of the latter games be made for VR without losing their respective voice and visual identity? Would there be a place for games like these in a VR-dominated market?
I'm trying to be open-minded about VR but it seems to me that, even at its best, this technology will always just fill a certain niche. And I'm afraid that we might lose out on a lot of great things if this niche ever became the de facto norm.
Then again, I'm not really interested in technology for technology's sake. System specs and various technical buzzwords mean very little to me. I want to see how technology can fuel genuine creativity without devaluing established tools. Are one technological step forward and two creative steps back really the future?
Any thoughts?
VR can work for any genre out there aside from 2D games. 3rd person games like Moss work brilliantly and are very charming. RTS works surprisingly well. God perspective games are very compelling.
I thought the same thing too until I played Superhot VR back to back with Superhot. Superhot is kind of a stand out thing but how one to one the controls felt is one of those things you can't truly understand until you try it. The base game just feels lifeless now still fun but so much less... present? Think of it like the difference between wolfenstein 3d for DOS and half life.
I heard a good analogy. Imagine being in a truly amazing place, you hear the waterfall, birds singing, sun is shining etc. and then you show a picture you took of said place to someone and try to convey this feeling. That is how for me it feels to try and explain VR , I can't.
But that's okay. I completely understand how immersive and life-like it must be.
My worry is that this specific type of immersion might be supplanting other, less emulative presentation types at some point.
Your main issue is fixed by simply trying psvr, oculus, or vive.
You don't feel like you're looking at a screen, you look over and see someone in the game be it npc or another player and it feels like they are to scale, like looking over at an npc and him just being as large as you. Looking up at mountains or something and just being amazed by it's scale like you're looking up at a skyscrapper.
There are gameplay stuff too, like ducking under a sword swing or under bullet fire, doing the things he mentioned in the video, the move controllers and stuff allowing pretty much for your hands to have free movement, even among two guns, and it just feels right in vr while out of it they just feel like wii controllers you're swinging at the screen. Looking around and picking things up, etc.
The immersion and gameplay possibilities are endless, it's literally a 2d to 3d level of upgrade, if not more.
It makes just about any game better if it's properly made, yes some games suck but those games would suck even more out of vr, but good games are made great, great are made amazing, etc. Resident Evil 7 was a solid game, well it's one of the best games around in vr.
Also the reason why tech is important is because you need to do it on two screens and you need all the other stuff going on, also it's pretty much required to have steady 60fps or 120fps to be comfortable in vr. Also regarding the 2 screens, it doesn't feel like two screens, it feels like you're in the game and you even have peripheral vision realistically done.
You think it's not the best thing since sliced bread since you haven't tried it honestly.
Heck it even improves games where you aren't the character, even 2d platformers are better in vr. You'll find yourself liking genres you previously didn't because of vr.
You should get vr RIGHT NOW and subscribe to a channel like psvr without parole to avoid the sucky games like the justice league vr game that was essentially just a few mini games meant to be used as an ad for the movie.
PSVR genuinely has better exclusives than xbox one does.
That blooper at the end is hilarious. Top quality as usual (I actaully mean it!)
Personally, I don't like VR, but I do see a future for it since the porn companies are in.
Had mine pre-ordered on day one. Still love it. Resident Evil 7 is THE GAME to play on this device.