I really hope this game sticks around for the long haul, having more options is always nice just in case nonsense happens. I also see First Descendant having ALOT of potential down the road but we'll just have to see.
First time I've seen your channel and honestly thank you for looking at the important questions fairly and objectively 😊 more gamers should take the sugar/hate out of their perspective
I've been loving the game so far! Don't know how people can't see the similarities between it and Warframe. I've been burnt out by Warframe for a bit now and this has been a great alternative. :)
Yup you can bullet jump, I got my hound, I can trade plat, I can use archon shards, I got my zaw weapons and kitguns, glaives, nunchucks, Kuva weapons, archwing, necromec, railjack all in the First Descendent right 😂 Wow so many similarities. You don’t even know Warframe 😂😂
@@whentheuh considering that has nothing to do with what I said, we clearly see who is taking the drugs. Don’t project your own issues on others please and thank you
Yeah that collision shouldn't be. Yeah I've watch people just will stand in your way. Oh and when I'm in a gunfight people will stand behind me and not move so I go down specifically when I'm aiming down sights.
It's not a Warframe killer for sure, isn't a bad at all too, the microtransactions are agressive, could not expect less from Nexus, it's a fun game, almost 200 hours and having lots of fun not gonna lie.
No I appreciate this video. I've sunk about 48 hours into this game right now. Not gonna lie. I just didn't pay attention. I didn't realize I could pay for other things. I've just been grinding like a motherfucker trying to get the game over with so that I can collect the ultimate decendant parts
I played the open beta last year but i had performance issues (ryzen1600 + 1060 6gb), would you say its better optimised than the beta or my hardware just cant handle this? Glad you're honest about the game, its an interesting IP but it has to do something unique besides the "plot"
i've tried a few small multiplayer projects and it really feels like the devs are using the default character template because the rubberbanding looks identical that being said, pubg also feels the same way yet they fixed the rubberbanding
the main thing that turns me off of this game is: how can you copy warframe but ignore the movement? The movement is one of the main things that makes warframe warframe in my eyes.
The game is pretty fun and you can get through the whole story free to play. However, essential items for hard mode end game that you will need such as catalysts and activators (formas and reactors in warframe) are PURPOSELY designed to be a tedious grind to get, with very low drop chances to make you buy them instead in the store which cost around 20-30 dollars... I really tried to like this game but Nexon gonna do Nexon things
Exactly, I am still very iffy on the game, having fun, but the grind is already starting to wear me out, and thats weird for me because generally i'm very down for it
Wouldnt call it a p2w game. Sure alot if not majority of skins and other descendants are locked behind a paywall. But like warframe, it also drops in game. Its a free to play game. Main way of them making money is through ingame purchase. Unlike, for example destiny 2, none of there eververse armor is able drop in the game. Its 100% locked behind silver.
I agree and disagree, I think the game would be better if you couldn't buy the ultimate descendants atm, I don't like the imbalance between ftp players and pay to complete players, cosmetics are okay, and if you could trade the premium currency I wouldn't have any monetary gripes with the game, not even the ultimate's, but because you cant yet, it's a bit of a pain point to me, I actually don't have major problems with the game other than the network collision issues and ping, other than that, like the zones and stuff I expect they will will fix all those things in due time
YT doesnt pay much. its like 0.015 USD (one and a half cents) per full ad view. dude has like 100 videos at around like 25k avg views which comes out to like 20k USD for the year, assuming all vids are monetized, which is barely above the US poverty line. Not sure how that maths out in South Africa living standards.
lol wow that math was close! 🤣 yea it's not bad, but it's nowhere near what I earn from my job, the channel has quite a ways to got before it starts touching my salary, BUT it's a VERY nice bonus income forsure, so I'm really happy with it! :)
I don't know. I don't hate the game and obviously would like to see it do good or better, but I have no interest when nothing *IS* interesting. I would rather put that time played in this game into Destiny or Warframe, you know? I mostly agree to all your points but also here are some of mine: Movement and builds are such a strong point to why I and many others like Warframe, and that is just not to be found. Even with the limited movement they provide, it is just clunky.. Gunplay is SOOO bland, like holy.. I do NOT feel like a badass while playing this game, simply because the weapons are so lackluster, which also ties in with building. Performance is complete ass for mediocre graphics. 4080 super + 7800x3d at 1440p and getting like 120FPS at most and dipping to lower 80s. We will for sure see improvements to this, but tired of games releasing unoptimized. The game to me just screams "CASH GRAB!!" rather than trying to BE a good game. I can live with it being both a cash grab and a good game, but right now I just don't see it being a real alternative to Warframe. I think it is worth following the game in hopes it gets better, so I am not just going to give up on it as of right now.
Warframe is not pay to win. I've been playing that since release. You can grind for everything and it's not even pvp, so tell me pay to win. What do you win? How do you win and AP Ve game? And the first descendant, how was that pay to win, huh? It's paid to advance if you want. It's not pay to win learn something
@@xDASxBOOTx Warframe can be pay to win. I've been playing that since release. If your goal in a game like Warframe of TFD (i.e. collection games) is to collect everything, then yes, having the option to pay does make it pay to win. Learn something.
Honestly im kinda done with it unless they make there version of plat tradeable like wf then i doubt ill be back. and they also need to stop lieing about drop chances cus it shouldnt take betwean 25 and 40 attempts for a item with a 20% dorp chance. rng is one thing but 6 times all takeing more than 25 attempts yea thats not 20% i dont care what anyway says.
Same with 38% drop rates.U always get the gun, I think the drops are fake, but I can't prove it. I hope people will realise about what they are trying to do with them, they are cheating us
Played warframe from day 1 and this also. People comparing warframe to this just make me believe they are scared it will catch up quickly. This game on release is superior to warframe. Yes warframe looks better and did on release but god damn what a shit show everything else. People forget warframe on release was like most politicians. Paints a pretty picture but rotten from the core
Why though? it's a lobby based game, and in warframe you can set your ping limits so you will never have to play with a ping higher than you selected, in TFD the zones are only populated by 4 players at a time, so it would be perfect no?
@@morning8590 Host migrations. People ending up as hosts because they had a single moment of ping below my specified limit. Getting stuck in loops of loading screens because the host I was getting loaded into had their power go out or whatever. Hosts with low ping but otherwise unstable connections. List goes on. It's 2024, if you can't operate proper servers, don't operate an online (MMO-lite? what are we even calling these kinds of games?) game.
@@Sayonarin oof yea, it's hard to argue with the host migration issues, yea I wish there was a modernized version of peer to peer, where it would find an average ping and host a micro server between the connected lobby, but yea your right, they should just have better servers
I don't know how to respond to a developer who only copies and pastes all the ideas and only changes graphic assets (because the game probably runs on Unreal Engine). There's definitely no point in expecting any amazing innovations, they'll just keep copying.
Yeah so? All battle royals are basically the same. All hero shooters are the same like overwatch and paladins. Moba games also play the same it’s basically a recipe anyone can use.
@@vi-vii-xcix496 You're talking out of your mind if you think most BRs and shooters are just copies of each other. I HATE BRs, but almost every single notable BR plays different. You could argue a lot of shooters are similar, but saying "COD is like Ow or XDefiant is like OW" is ignorant. Your statement is too generalized and incorrect.
@@NakedTrashPanda xdefiant is literally cod. Cod devs made the game. Also paladins is literally overwatch and the soon to release marvel rivals is inspired by ow aswell. And yes all BRS are the same their fundamental gameplay and design are the same. The style differs and thats the case with first descendant and warframe and thats fine. My point is that just because first descendant is inspired by wareframe should not be a reason to hate the game.
You say that warframe started off rough but that is because warframe started it off, TFD did not need to start off rough with it's monetization when warframe has already done the roadmap for them. Also you say trust in nexon for them to improve the game versus trust in DE to make the game better, sorry but if TFD was sold to DE it would be a different thought process of "trust in the process". Trusting in nexon is the same as buying an NFT hoping it will reach the moon.
no no, DONT trust nexon lol not yet anyway, they have proven to be bad in past, but I can forgive that if they prove open and honest with this project specifically, it really does seem like they are listening to feedback and setting up roadmaps and have dev talks etc etc, sure this might all be a different story next year this time, but if I enjoy it now, I wont punish myself and not play it while it's good
I have done a defense in Fortress and we failed, totally unbalanced if u don't pay for energy activators. This game is pay to win, don't be fool and uninstall it. Also waves are too long, drops are low, noone needs gold, wtf is that reward. Uninstall this BS, they are treating u as idiots, and drop rates, u don't share them with teammates.Good luck with eternal grinds. I leave this Shit rn. Warframe doesn't have nothing to worry about
It‘s a fun game with questionable monetisation and limited content
I really hope this game sticks around for the long haul, having more options is always nice just in case nonsense happens.
I also see First Descendant having ALOT of potential down the road but we'll just have to see.
First time I've seen your channel and honestly thank you for looking at the important questions fairly and objectively 😊 more gamers should take the sugar/hate out of their perspective
It’s definitely fun and I would say it’s worth a play but it DEFINITELY has its issues. I assume they’ll be worked on over the coming weeks/months
if you don't know about nexon and their past shady business practice...yeah....
As someone who uses the saying "pay for convenience" I've never been shut up so fast in my life 😭. Good video
I've been loving the game so far! Don't know how people can't see the similarities between it and Warframe. I've been burnt out by Warframe for a bit now and this has been a great alternative. :)
Yup you can bullet jump, I got my hound, I can trade plat, I can use archon shards, I got my zaw weapons and kitguns, glaives, nunchucks, Kuva weapons, archwing, necromec, railjack all in the First Descendent right 😂 Wow so many similarities. You don’t even know Warframe 😂😂
@@trig2012 do you take drugs?
@@whentheuh considering that has nothing to do with what I said, we clearly see who is taking the drugs. Don’t project your own issues on others please and thank you
@trig2012 compare it to month 1 warframe. There, a fair comparison
Bluds high af @@trig2012
Yeah that collision shouldn't be. Yeah I've watch people just will stand in your way. Oh and when I'm in a gunfight people will stand behind me and not move so I go down specifically when I'm aiming down sights.
It's not a Warframe killer for sure, isn't a bad at all too, the microtransactions are agressive, could not expect less from Nexus, it's a fun game, almost 200 hours and having lots of fun not gonna lie.
No I appreciate this video. I've sunk about 48 hours into this game right now. Not gonna lie. I just didn't pay attention. I didn't realize I could pay for other things. I've just been grinding like a motherfucker trying to get the game over with so that I can collect the ultimate decendant parts
I played the open beta last year but i had performance issues (ryzen1600 + 1060 6gb), would you say its better optimised than the beta or my hardware just cant handle this? Glad you're honest about the game, its an interesting IP but it has to do something unique besides the "plot"
i've tried a few small multiplayer projects and it really feels like the devs are using the default character template because the rubberbanding looks identical
that being said, pubg also feels the same way yet they fixed the rubberbanding
the main thing that turns me off of this game is: how can you copy warframe but ignore the movement? The movement is one of the main things that makes warframe warframe in my eyes.
Agreed, it's more grounded, Warframes movement remains unchallenged, this games grapple is fun to use and has a bit more of a spiderman feel xD
No peer to peer i cant stand that shit in warframe not everyone has good internet also u handsome bro as i expected much love brother ❤
Ayo?
Why would you want peer to peer anyways would make it easier to grab your ip then gta online. Also peer to peer wouldn't work in a game like this
The game is pretty fun and you can get through the whole story free to play. However, essential items for hard mode end game that you will need such as catalysts and activators (formas and reactors in warframe) are PURPOSELY designed to be a tedious grind to get, with very low drop chances to make you buy them instead in the store which cost around 20-30 dollars... I really tried to like this game but Nexon gonna do Nexon things
Exactly, I am still very iffy on the game, having fun, but the grind is already starting to wear me out, and thats weird for me because generally i'm very down for it
Wouldnt call it a p2w game. Sure alot if not majority of skins and other descendants are locked behind a paywall. But like warframe, it also drops in game. Its a free to play game. Main way of them making money is through ingame purchase. Unlike, for example destiny 2, none of there eververse armor is able drop in the game. Its 100% locked behind silver.
I agree and disagree, I think the game would be better if you couldn't buy the ultimate descendants atm, I don't like the imbalance between ftp players and pay to complete players, cosmetics are okay, and if you could trade the premium currency I wouldn't have any monetary gripes with the game, not even the ultimate's, but because you cant yet, it's a bit of a pain point to me, I actually don't have major problems with the game other than the network collision issues and ping, other than that, like the zones and stuff I expect they will will fix all those things in due time
@@morning8590"can't yet"? It's Nexon, that's "won't ever"
@@basedx. You are probably gonna be proven right with nexon's track record, but I really hope your wrong :)
This game is so big and complex you need at least 200+ hours to tell at least 2 maxed characters.
the game also has a few performance issues, its locked at the lowest graphic settings for me and still gives like 40fps
wait you work somewhere and still make videos while gaming omg i thought this was your job all along
YT doesnt pay much. its like 0.015 USD (one and a half cents) per full ad view. dude has like 100 videos at around like 25k avg views which comes out to like 20k USD for the year, assuming all vids are monetized, which is barely above the US poverty line. Not sure how that maths out in South Africa living standards.
@@TaverickMama that correlates to about R400k for us, so it's not bad at all
lol wow that math was close! 🤣 yea it's not bad, but it's nowhere near what I earn from my job, the channel has quite a ways to got before it starts touching my salary, BUT it's a VERY nice bonus income forsure, so I'm really happy with it! :)
@@morning8590 i wish i could do some videos with you or even just play
just honestly - dont have to pay for anything. Just your mental wellbeing
lol true
I don't know. I don't hate the game and obviously would like to see it do good or better, but I have no interest when nothing *IS* interesting. I would rather put that time played in this game into Destiny or Warframe, you know? I mostly agree to all your points but also here are some of mine:
Movement and builds are such a strong point to why I and many others like Warframe, and that is just not to be found. Even with the limited movement they provide, it is just clunky..
Gunplay is SOOO bland, like holy.. I do NOT feel like a badass while playing this game, simply because the weapons are so lackluster, which also ties in with building.
Performance is complete ass for mediocre graphics. 4080 super + 7800x3d at 1440p and getting like 120FPS at most and dipping to lower 80s. We will for sure see improvements to this, but tired of games releasing unoptimized.
The game to me just screams "CASH GRAB!!" rather than trying to BE a good game. I can live with it being both a cash grab and a good game, but right now I just don't see it being a real alternative to Warframe.
I think it is worth following the game in hopes it gets better, so I am not just going to give up on it as of right now.
60 hours in, i like it, definetly p2w, just like warframe, but at least warframe is more f2p friendly.
Warframe is not pay to win. I've been playing that since release. You can grind for everything and it's not even pvp, so tell me pay to win. What do you win? How do you win and AP Ve game? And the first descendant, how was that pay to win, huh? It's paid to advance if you want. It's not pay to win learn something
@@xDASxBOOTx Warframe can be pay to win. I've been playing that since release. If your goal in a game like Warframe of TFD (i.e. collection games) is to collect everything, then yes, having the option to pay does make it pay to win. Learn something.
Warframe is not p2w at all.
What is an example of pay to win in Warframe?
@@cindymathews3343 I play for 2 years. Didn't pay once. Sitting on over 10k plat. I guess im a p2w player?
Honestly im kinda done with it unless they make there version of plat tradeable like wf then i doubt ill be back. and they also need to stop lieing about drop chances cus it shouldnt take betwean 25 and 40 attempts for a item with a 20% dorp chance. rng is one thing but 6 times all takeing more than 25 attempts yea thats not 20% i dont care what anyway says.
Same with 38% drop rates.U always get the gun, I think the drops are fake, but I can't prove it. I hope people will realise about what they are trying to do with them, they are cheating us
Played warframe from day 1 and this also.
People comparing warframe to this just make me believe they are scared it will catch up quickly.
This game on release is superior to warframe. Yes warframe looks better and did on release but god damn what a shit show everything else.
People forget warframe on release was like most politicians. Paints a pretty picture but rotten from the core
I'm not scared it will catch up, I am hoping it does, competition is great :)
hell no please don't make it peer-to-peer. my biggest gripe with warframe since forever.
Why though? it's a lobby based game, and in warframe you can set your ping limits so you will never have to play with a ping higher than you selected, in TFD the zones are only populated by 4 players at a time, so it would be perfect no?
@@morning8590 Host migrations. People ending up as hosts because they had a single moment of ping below my specified limit. Getting stuck in loops of loading screens because the host I was getting loaded into had their power go out or whatever. Hosts with low ping but otherwise unstable connections. List goes on. It's 2024, if you can't operate proper servers, don't operate an online (MMO-lite? what are we even calling these kinds of games?) game.
@@Sayonarin oof yea, it's hard to argue with the host migration issues, yea I wish there was a modernized version of peer to peer, where it would find an average ping and host a micro server between the connected lobby, but yea your right, they should just have better servers
tl;dr yes
its pay to progress thats about it
I don't know how to respond to a developer who only copies and pastes all the ideas and only changes graphic assets (because the game probably runs on Unreal Engine). There's definitely no point in expecting any amazing innovations, they'll just keep copying.
Yeah so? All battle royals are basically the same. All hero shooters are the same like overwatch and paladins. Moba games also play the same it’s basically a recipe anyone can use.
@@vi-vii-xcix496 You're talking out of your mind if you think most BRs and shooters are just copies of each other. I HATE BRs, but almost every single notable BR plays different. You could argue a lot of shooters are similar, but saying "COD is like Ow or XDefiant is like OW" is ignorant. Your statement is too generalized and incorrect.
@@NakedTrashPanda xdefiant is literally cod. Cod devs made the game. Also paladins is literally overwatch and the soon to release marvel rivals is inspired by ow aswell. And yes all BRS are the same their fundamental gameplay and design are the same. The style differs and thats the case with first descendant and warframe and thats fine. My point is that just because first descendant is inspired by wareframe should not be a reason to hate the game.
You say that warframe started off rough but that is because warframe started it off, TFD did not need to start off rough with it's monetization when warframe has already done the roadmap for them.
Also you say trust in nexon for them to improve the game versus trust in DE to make the game better, sorry but if TFD was sold to DE it would be a different thought process of "trust in the process". Trusting in nexon is the same as buying an NFT hoping it will reach the moon.
Go play warframe then.
no no, DONT trust nexon lol not yet anyway, they have proven to be bad in past, but I can forgive that if they prove open and honest with this project specifically, it really does seem like they are listening to feedback and setting up roadmaps and have dev talks etc etc, sure this might all be a different story next year this time, but if I enjoy it now, I wont punish myself and not play it while it's good
I have done a defense in Fortress and we failed, totally unbalanced if u don't pay for energy activators. This game is pay to win, don't be fool and uninstall it. Also waves are too long, drops are low, noone needs gold, wtf is that reward. Uninstall this BS, they are treating u as idiots, and drop rates, u don't share them with teammates.Good luck with eternal grinds. I leave this Shit rn. Warframe doesn't have nothing to worry about
P2w, terrible grind rare itens, boring. End game after 1 week. Alottt of my Friends leave after 1st week, GL NEXON.
Goodbye
I mean its not GOOD but its not pay2win either