The Master Lives, Pink Slime, and Who is a Synth? | The Unhinged Fallout Iceberg TIER 3

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  • It is time for Tier 3, folks! This marks the halfway point. As such, entries are wilder, we stray further from the canon and confirmed, and enter the land of uncertainty and theories. Buckle up.
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  • @samuelnavarro8666
    @samuelnavarro8666 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    You can ask both the institute and the railroad and both will confirm they have never made, or liberated any synth designated Kasumi. You can even send her home after confirming this and finding all of Dimas secrets

    • @harrisonhurst6480
      @harrisonhurst6480 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea Dima is a manipulative ass who lies... A lot.

  • @nonyabeezewax1480
    @nonyabeezewax1480 ปีที่แล้ว +468

    About the pink paste: I believe this quest was actually based off of the Quaker Oats lawsuit, a lawsuit that took place in Massachusetts. Specifically, MIT and Quaker Oats fed 100(ish) children at Fernald School in Waltham radioactive cereal to prove nutrients in Quaker Oats traveled through the body (or something like that). The children were not informed and in 1998 the lawsuit against MIT and Quaker Oats was settled for 1.85 million dollars. The experiment itself took place in the 40s and 50s. All of this to say, I think pink paste is a reference to the radioactive oats experiment.

    • @Elytra_Space
      @Elytra_Space ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Dude that’s insane

    • @PinkWytchBytch
      @PinkWytchBytch ปีที่แล้ว +54

      There was also a lawsuit about pink slime being used in place of proper red meat in stores way back in the day and it was being served in schools

    • @JThaDon910
      @JThaDon910 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      McDonalds chicken nuggets also.

    • @bimbustheenforcer
      @bimbustheenforcer ปีที่แล้ว +17

      This method of putting a radioactive isotope inside of food or other things was actually rather wide spread for experiments in the 40s and 50s even up until the 70s

    • @EmergencyChannel
      @EmergencyChannel ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@bimbustheenforcer Radiation poisoning wasn't a thing people knew about. Some of the first bomb tests had US soldiers close by with no fallout protection.

  • @ethangerstein2534
    @ethangerstein2534 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    aw hell nah not N_orte calling Dr. Mobius Dr. Morbius

    • @sgtstr3am785
      @sgtstr3am785 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Best part was when he winks with his one eye and says "it's Morbin time!"

    • @rayvenkman2087
      @rayvenkman2087 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *Scourge Loved That*

    • @leggonarm9835
      @leggonarm9835 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If Old World Blues didn't crash every time I start it, we would know definitively lol.

    • @DiocletianLarius
      @DiocletianLarius 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@leggonarm9835 I know the game is a bug-ridden mess but that's weird, I mostly had problems with other addons like Dead Money. If you play on pc, try installing mods like: NVAC (New Vegas Anti Crash), Yukichigai Unofficial Patch (YUP), and lStewieAl's Tweaks and Engine Fixes. Those worked wonders on my case

  • @MiaJoBella
    @MiaJoBella ปีที่แล้ว +139

    I hadn't realized Sturges was a synth. Certainly adds some context to him helping me build the portal to the Institute

    • @Grimpy970
      @Grimpy970 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Like really. There's a massive gap in experience from "I'm real good with a wrench" to "I can manipulate quantum fields to invent an experiment that has never been successful as far as anyone is concerned"

    • @mattlewandowski73
      @mattlewandowski73 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      synth... buddy of the atom cats... slave driver construction foreman... all around great guy...

    • @The_Lucent_Archangel
      @The_Lucent_Archangel ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Fair enough, but it wasn't technically a teleporter/relay in and of itself. It was a signal interceptor which allowed the Sole Survivor to piggyback the next time the Institute used the actual relay.

    • @jeffmanbrawler
      @jeffmanbrawler ปีที่แล้ว

      That's the thing some of them don even know that they are synths

    • @Commander_Bern
      @Commander_Bern ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@The_Lucent_Archangelplus Virgil did most of the groundwork.

  • @lunanyx8592
    @lunanyx8592 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    Arthur Maxon is an odd character in general. He's supposed to be 20 in Fallout 4 but he looks like a grizzled war vet. You could argue that war and stress ages you harder but he looks 10 years older than he's supposed to be.
    I also never understood why the Capital Wasteland brotherhood had Maxon with them seeing as he's basically royalty and the CW group was just a small offshoot of the main brotherhood.

    • @Nobody-zl3kk
      @Nobody-zl3kk ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Since the Lyon's are essentially royalty, if any of them wanted to do something that seemed appealing to everyone else, the other elders would have likely approved, going to DC,the "precious capital of the nation" seems logical, for it was almost assured they would find some bonkers technology there.

    • @ineptitude
      @ineptitude ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I don’t know if it’s what the writers intended, but maybe it’s to keep him safe from the NCR-BOS War?

    • @HeadsetShiba
      @HeadsetShiba ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I mean MacCready is 22 but I could have sworn he was older xD

    • @scatman786
      @scatman786 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@ineptitude potentially, the game guide only goes as far to tell us that his mother sent him with Lyons after the death of his father outside NCR territory but mostly because he’s timid. Seems fairly likely.

    • @WeebishSwed
      @WeebishSwed ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It could be something inspired by Alexander the Great and his rise to power, since he was also very young when it happened. Even their ages match since both Alexander and Arthur took power at 16 years old.

  • @Weeohhweeohh
    @Weeohhweeohh ปีที่แล้ว +75

    "Some people like being edgy, I guess."
    That is the tutorial mission of the internet.

    • @samael4550
      @samael4550 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Facts, but they don’t even do it right. The thing about being edgy is that it’s supposed to be _on the edge,_ not over it. People think being blatantly depraved for no reason=edgy, but it’s not. It’s why actual edgy jokes are funny/shocking, and internet edgelords are just cringe.

    • @kman9884
      @kman9884 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@samael4550Clutching your pearls that people are enamored by offensive topics is cringe, brother. Go get the Gluck Gluck from Nancy Reagan, while contemplating the ramifications of rap music on the children.

    • @samael4550
      @samael4550 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kman9884 bro wtf are you even talking about, I never said anything about being offended, I said they’re not funny, stay off the drugs.

  • @Deathwish777
    @Deathwish777 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    the vault tech salesmen proves you are not a synth. he remembers you and you remember him. he would also have to be a synth.

    • @Gutvald
      @Gutvald ปีที่แล้ว +20

      And he never change his coat in 200 years.

    • @TheJuggerClutch
      @TheJuggerClutch ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Wow this is the most simple but solid/true rebuttal to this theory I’ve seen. You’re right, unless the SS died in the vault and the institute replaced their body in the freeze chamber with a synth one, refroze it, then allowed it to wake up (which would be pretty far fetched) then I agree SS could not be a synth.

    • @Deathwish777
      @Deathwish777 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@TheJuggerClutch the institute would have had to been watching the SS even before the bombs dropped for some reason. they would have had to watched you interact with the salesmen right before the bombs dropped. would have had known the salesmen would survive 200 years and become a ghoul. had known you would encounter the salesmen again so they gave you a memory about the salesmen. none of that makes any sense.

    • @garythemilkman4442
      @garythemilkman4442 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Gutvald tbh wouldnt really matter since everyone else smells like shit too

    • @harrisonhurst6480
      @harrisonhurst6480 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yea, the whole Sole Survivor being a synth doesn't hold up. Shaun is always a combo of Nate and Nora, you remember a lot about Pre-war that we as the player don't see but the Survivor talks about, and the fact it all started because of Dima, who is shown to be dishonest, manipulative, and willing to make people believe they are synths when they are not.

  • @DueRag
    @DueRag ปีที่แล้ว +91

    I think oxhorn talked about it somewhere where he said that the brotherhood just completely glosses over the feats that Sarah Lyons and Elder Lyons did in that capital wasteland. They Defeated the Enclave, took out their other base, brought fresh water to the wasteland and are always fighting muties. For them to just gloss over that stuff was extremely wild.

    • @hoagie911
      @hoagie911 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      It might be because helping others is not only not in three Brotherhood's Codex, it is explicitly prohibited in the Codex. Their core implores them to be extremely isolationist. So the actions of a Chapter helping the Wasteland at large are probably controversial.

    • @insomniagobrrr5542
      @insomniagobrrr5542 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah, and he also got mad about BETHESDA reusing assets in a game developed by OBSIDIAN, while he had a texture mod installed.

    • @mattlewandowski73
      @mattlewandowski73 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@hoagie911 could be because they are just over glorified raiders in the end, and did not like members turning away from the "organized raider" lifestyle and giving people expectations they did not want to live up to.

    • @visassess8607
      @visassess8607 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      But it's Oxhorn so you can't trust anything that dude says. I'm not getting my information from a dude who makes fun of teenagers online

    • @M50A1
      @M50A1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Oxhorn is mid

  • @AndyJP
    @AndyJP ปีที่แล้ว +209

    I like to think that Sarah Lyons was only assumed dead, but she's actually still alive somewhere out there. Fodder for another game perhaps.

    • @Ryuko-T72
      @Ryuko-T72 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Perhaps unable to make contact like the second BoS recon team from 4.

    • @MiaJoBella
      @MiaJoBella ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Would be happy to see her return as an older woman, leader of some new unique faction. I'd love to see how the years have changed her and her opinion on the BOS

    • @andrewcavender8443
      @andrewcavender8443 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I would love that because I miss the good bois of fallout 3 bos.

    • @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool
      @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool ปีที่แล้ว

      You will seek Me and find Me, when you seek Me with all your heart. - Jeremiah 29:13

    • @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool
      @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool ปีที่แล้ว

      “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. - John 3:16

  • @andrewcavender8443
    @andrewcavender8443 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    I always wished Sarah was the elder in fallout 4. Sarah was so cool to me when I first played fallout 3 and her and her father are a huge reason why the brotherhood are my favorite faction in fallout. I hate how she was killed off screen and how brutal Maxim can be is so jarring to how nice Lyons was.

    • @EmergencyChannel
      @EmergencyChannel ปีที่แล้ว +45

      BoS are assholes in every game besides Fallout 3, Lyons is the outlier.

    • @icedirt9658
      @icedirt9658 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I want lyons back

    • @insomniagobrrr5542
      @insomniagobrrr5542 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Maxson, not Maxim

    • @toosuperb
      @toosuperb ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@insomniagobrrr5542 im guessing he ment that bro

    • @insomniagobrrr5542
      @insomniagobrrr5542 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@toosuperb I'm just pointing out a typo because I'm a pedantic asshole

  • @gregmarcus6752
    @gregmarcus6752 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    There is one argument that kills the Lone Survivor is a synth theory; considering the murderous hijinks you can get up to in the Institute don't you think someone would've tried using your shut-down code?

    • @kazumablackwing4270
      @kazumablackwing4270 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You would think...but Bethesda was clearly dead set against allowing the player to fail in any way in Fallout 4. Hell, you can't even lock yourself out of certain factions before the "point of no return" in the story line. It's ironic, really... considering how in Morrowind, you could completely brick your save by accidentally...or intentionally... killing the wrong NPC

    • @TheTaiylorWallace
      @TheTaiylorWallace 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Austin Hourigan of ShoddyCast has a great theory about this and how the Lone Survivor could be considered a "Gen 4 Synth." It's really well thought-out

  • @Catapilamila
    @Catapilamila ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Unhinged and uncircumcised as I like my Fallout and iceberg content

    • @Dude-vq3oe
      @Dude-vq3oe ปีที่แล้ว

      Uncircumcised?

  • @MorkiMoo
    @MorkiMoo ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Another fun fact about the EU copies of classic Fallout: for the UK release of Fallout 2, calling the different medical items drugs was not allowed, and instead they were renamed to chems. This name stuck for some reason, and now it’s canon to call things chems and not drugs.

  • @Sunny-ek8sx
    @Sunny-ek8sx ปีที่แล้ว +24

    child killer vault boy is my favorite purely bc its funny it even exists. like looking at it is already funny in a shocking way but knowing its for what is now a triple a franchise is hilarious

    • @jacobsantana915
      @jacobsantana915 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sick sense of humor you got.

    • @b.c2420
      @b.c2420 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jacobsantana915 "QUIT HAVING FUN!!!"

    • @b.c2420
      @b.c2420 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jacobsantana915 It was just a joke, "hollier-than-thou" BS is easy to make fun.

    • @b.c2420
      @b.c2420 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jacobsantana915 theres no truth in morals, my man is literal definition of hollier than thou.

    • @b.c2420
      @b.c2420 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jacobsantana915 Your call pal.

  • @nyekomimi
    @nyekomimi ปีที่แล้ว +20

    My favorite part about Pink Slime controversy was when someone used specific image about that article, and someone realized "Bitch, that's a tubby custard machine" - and it was

    • @jeffdroog
      @jeffdroog 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please stop doing drugs.

  • @bustinjustin3956
    @bustinjustin3956 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    In fallout 4 the Mr. Handy lookout at the U.S.S. constitution will scan and recognize you as a member of the military (if nate). It seemed like a weird thing for the institute to be able to fake to me, but I still think it's up to interpretation

    • @davidfrancisco3502
      @davidfrancisco3502 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      And if you play as Nora it will recognize you as a lawyer.

    • @filmandfirearms
      @filmandfirearms ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The face is still the same, whether he's a synth or not. Without a military ID on hand, the Mr. Handy would just scan Nate and run his image against a database of military service members

    • @harrisonhurst6480
      @harrisonhurst6480 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Is this the "Soul Survivor is really a Synth" thing again? That only Comes from DiMa, who is known to lie to a lot of people and be very dishonest. Shaun always looks like a combination of Nate and Nora, and the "What do you remember before the bombs?" Thing doesn't hold up as there are several times when you talk about and have memories about stuff before the start of the Game.

    • @mappingshaman5280
      @mappingshaman5280 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@harrisonhurst6480 thats not proof of anything. If the sole survivors death as a human is when you go in the cryostasis pod and after that the institute created a synth of the person, it would look exactly like the sole survivor, just like mayor mcdonough, just like Roger Warwick, just like Art.
      As for having memories again its stated that the synths have memories of the humans. Paladin danse has memories of growing up in rivet city.

    • @mappingshaman5280
      @mappingshaman5280 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @ayojit8706 they can program any memories the person had

  • @TKsMantis
    @TKsMantis ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Super interesting things on this iceberg.
    Thank you for covering. Great video!

    • @burninsherman1037
      @burninsherman1037 ปีที่แล้ว

      Should've known you'd be here, mantis.

    • @dennisthefivestarman8177
      @dennisthefivestarman8177 ปีที่แล้ว

      Should’ve known you’d be here instead of making actual content that doesn’t revolve around shitty 60 seconds TH-cam shorts

    • @dennisthefivestarman8177
      @dennisthefivestarman8177 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Remember when TK whined about frontier because he sucked at voice acting ( they showed off the voice acting and it was horrible LMFAO )

  • @serPomiz
    @serPomiz ปีที่แล้ว +26

    about the maxton rise to power, undoubtedly there was something fishy, but I'd honestly be more inclined to believe the outcasts were involved, rather than western elders
    one detail about the wizard of oz similitude, the road that goes from the think tank to the 3 main facilities has some areas with a clear yellow tint on the bricks, making it a litteral yellow brick road

  • @baroncalamityplus
    @baroncalamityplus ปีที่แล้ว +17

    An entire episode covering the S'Lanters would be interesting. Another reason they may have been cut is the characters and design of their areas was very close to TSR's Gamma World's Badders (intelligent badgers)

    • @jeffdroog
      @jeffdroog 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No,no it wouldn't be lol They are cut content,and he literally already gave us all of the known information about them.Unless he just made up a bunch of shit,there wouldn't be a video to be made lol stop doing meth man.

  • @TheTSense
    @TheTSense ปีที่แล้ว +9

    17:00 as FEV Mutants, the talking raccoons are totally immune to radiation. The real crazy part of the story is: What killed them? And why was it covered up?

  • @jasonhare8540
    @jasonhare8540 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I think the vagueness of the soul survivor being a synth or not is deliberate . They left you your own headcanon space

    • @hollylucianta6711
      @hollylucianta6711 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Bethesda has done little nods like this before in the Elder Scrolls games; I think it's meant to be a joke or tap on the fourth wall about how your character doesn't exist until you start playing as them and has very little canon backstory. IIRC in Oblivion and Morrowind there's some implication that your protagonist literally does zip into existence from nothing at the start of the game.

    • @Gutvald
      @Gutvald ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They badly try to imitate Blade runner own dilemna about rickard being a synth.

    • @filmandfirearms
      @filmandfirearms ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Gutvald Bladerunner doesn't have a monopoly on humanoid robots. They also don't have a monopoly on ambiguity about a character's true background. Humanoid robots are a concept that goes back to the conception of robots, and the most natural story arc for that story element is the ambiguity about whether or not a certain character is a robot. Doctor Who had storylines like that years before Bladerunner even came out

    • @visassess8607
      @visassess8607 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was deliberate but they completely botched it seeing as how the Soul Survivor makes several mentions of events before the beginning of the game yet in Far Harbor that's as far back as he can remember for some reason.

  • @EyedOmally
    @EyedOmally ปีที่แล้ว +12

    When I first found your channel, you only had tier 1 uploaded and I was sad because it looked like the second one might never come. Now we're on tier 3 and I can't wait for the next one. Some of my most anticipated uploads from anyone.

  • @silhouetted_shadow3486
    @silhouetted_shadow3486 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    You SHOULD make an entire video about the intelligent racoons :)

    • @steves_thoughts
      @steves_thoughts ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The fev raccoons, forming their own faction, is such a great idea. I hope that somehow this actually gets made some day. Maybe a project for mod community?

    • @jeffdroog
      @jeffdroog 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Too bad he already included all of the known information about them lol You're not bright.

    • @ourkeving
      @ourkeving 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​​​@@jeffdroogunkind and incorrect. 17:15 + he says "there's so much more...I could make an entire video...".
      Sounds like it could have been its own game with more raccoon antics added! -insert reverb

    • @jeffdroog
      @jeffdroog 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ourkeving I'm sorry,you're not very bright either lol ...They weren't included in the games.They weren't properly borught into existence,therefore,just mentioning them is about the best he can do lol It's the equivalent of "this one time,this one person thought about doing this,and then didn't" ...Unless you're aware of more game lore that exists revolving them,I'm going to argue,no,no there isn't really anything else to go on for the subject.

  • @UrpleSquirrel
    @UrpleSquirrel ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I definitely thought that Sarah Lyons' death was a political assassination from the moment I read that terminal entry. It just seems too damn convenient for her death to have led to a teenager being made Elder. Arthur may be skilled in combat, but I don't believe for a second that he was the most qualified out of ALL the members of the CW Brotherhood, especially when Elder Lyons had a whole team of skilled high-level people other than just his daughter - are we to believe that someone like Star Paladin Cross or Head Scribe Rothschild couldn't have done the job?
    I think the traditionalists purposefully picked a string of incompetent Elders to buy time for Arthur to get old enough to be made a leader without him being *blatantly* a figurehead. And of course, for them to have done a bad enough job that a sixteen year old child seemed like a good option.

  • @JENSEN10110
    @JENSEN10110 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Pumped to see another go up! Keep up the good work, can't wait to finish this one!

  • @kaneko523
    @kaneko523 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your health bar makes me anxious with all that radiation

  • @h.w.4482
    @h.w.4482 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "ug-qualtoth will likely never appear in fallout"
    mothman: 👀

    • @theblondesiouxsiesioux
      @theblondesiouxsiesioux ปีที่แล้ว

      Under the world he's waiting
      This thing that you don't know
      Inside his mind I realize my conciousness grows
      Another part of me
      I see right through his eyes
      And from his world of dreams I know he sees through mine.

    • @changvasejarik62
      @changvasejarik62 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly, ugqualtoth will never appear because the wise mothman prevents his physical entry.

  • @lmGoldyy
    @lmGoldyy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Been so keen for this, loving the videos!

  • @defalt_error5384
    @defalt_error5384 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    22:33 it sounds like he's calling all of them simps.

  • @TheJuggerClutch
    @TheJuggerClutch ปีที่แล้ว +10

    For known synths you missed some big ones: Paladin Danse and of course Trashcan Carla

    • @mattlewandowski73
      @mattlewandowski73 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As I recall, Carla is an asset, not a synth (then again so is cricket... come to think of it, where any of the wandering merchants NOT spys/informants for the institute? I am not playing currently, and do not recall the whole list... I tend to double tap carla and crickit once I gain access to the institute.

  • @that_swole_nerd
    @that_swole_nerd ปีที่แล้ว

    I listen to these when I play fallout or when I’m drawing or takin a quick nap, keep ‘em comin boss man!

  • @BedroomBully88
    @BedroomBully88 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Did you know,
    I’ve got spurs that Jingle Jangle Jingle.

  • @blasiankxng
    @blasiankxng ปีที่แล้ว +5

    surprised there wasn’t any talk about how deacon says he’s a synth (as a joke but who actually knows) during your travels

  • @randominternetguy228
    @randominternetguy228 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The child killer perk art is… well. I kinda see it as REALLY dark comedy. Just so offensive it makes you laugh out of pure shock. Is it *OK* not really. But the first time i saw the cut art I admittedly let out a laugh out of pure “oh my god what the hell is this” feeling

  • @zacharysnyder2520
    @zacharysnyder2520 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loving this. I’m binge watching the whole series

  • @lotty.
    @lotty. ปีที่แล้ว +7

    13:53 It's Dr. Mobius not Dr. Morbius, that's the guy played by Jared Leto

    • @changvasejarik62
      @changvasejarik62 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s also the name of the doctor from forbidden planet. The movie that gave the forbidden zone(not to be confused with the 1980 movie called “forbidden zone”).

  • @fmf5304
    @fmf5304 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the note on the brother hood elders dying and often having short reins reminded me of a period in roman history called "the period of the five good emperors" a period of 13 years in which they had many emperors one of which, Pertinax, only ruled for 86 days before his death. rather off topic but an interesting time in history to say the least.

  • @ReindeerStoner
    @ReindeerStoner ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dr. Edward Blackburn kind of reminds me of the Hulk, a scientist who when exposed to radiation becomes a hulking green behemoth

  • @Zer0C0re
    @Zer0C0re ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had a thought a while ago that the whole of The Commonwealth's population is in fact nothing but synths, and that the whole game, even the endings in which The Institute was apparently destroyed, was in fact part of a grander social engineering experiment done by The Institute, an experiment greater than *_anything_* Vault Tech came up with. They'd replace the totality of Commonwealth's populace with synths, watch what happens to simulate a post-apocalyptic environment both in-situ and in-vitro simultaneously in order to come up with the ideal situations for rebuilding and reshaping the world to achieve a utopian existence while testing technologies that they would use to achieve it. All the while the game would be going on, the *_REAL_* Institute would be holed up in an even deeper underground bunker facility that goes even further underground than the one we see in-game. They'd orchestrate the whole thing from start to finish, possibly multiple times over to account for hidden or unseen variables (got to run experiments more than one time after all), rebuild everything in-between, then start the whole thing up all over again, so even the playthroughs that we do have a meta-existent reason for existing in Fallout 4.
    The notion that synths don't always drop synth components was my mental "evidence" of this. I took it as meaning, "Synths don't always drop *_intact_* synth components that your character would pick up" rather than the notion that there were no robotic pieces there at all.

  • @ryancox6059
    @ryancox6059 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I could seriously listen to these for hours on end, was a little sad when I knew it was the end of the video haha but looking forward to part 4 big time.

  • @Toadaboticus
    @Toadaboticus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just had to click on the highlights to even watch this as TH-cam kept saying it was unavailable for playback. Love these and looking forward to the show coverage and FO5

  • @westdakotaofficial7940
    @westdakotaofficial7940 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So basically F2 had their own Children of Atom but with raccoons instead

  • @DaZebraffe
    @DaZebraffe ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You missed a "secret synth" thing. It's not a specific character, but any time you recruit a generic settler character to one of your settlements, there's a chance they'll secretly be a synth. This can be discovered by either having them drop a synth component should a raid on that settlement kill them off, or by the fact that should you earn the ire of the Institute, these random settlers-due to being synths-are in the Institute faction, so you'll have one of your settlers suddenly start attacking you the second you come back to a settlement.

    • @lartonki
      @lartonki 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also one rare thing abaout settler synths when you come in settlement there are settlers claiming someone being synth and then you need to talk abaout that person and decide what to do. I have play over 1000 hours and i have seen that happend only one time

  • @knyghts
    @knyghts ปีที่แล้ว +3

    it's been a while since I played far harbour but I remember the conversation with DiMA about the SS's potential synthhood and having nick as my companion (which, by the way, if you don't have nick as your companion while playing FH you're missing out on a LOT lol)
    if the SS chooses the option that's something like "I could be a synth, I don't know" I remember nick vehemently responding that you're definitely not a synth. I might be misremembering because it's been some time but I always remembered that as sort of a funny interaction

  • @HighCharityYT
    @HighCharityYT ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The sole survivor being a synth makes no sense from a narrative standpoint either, why would Kellog refer to the player character as the spare if you're a synth?

    • @kazumablackwing4270
      @kazumablackwing4270 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Especially since Shaun is essentially the basis for the gen 3 synths. It'd make no sense for one to already exist before they were developed

  • @TheWolf5575
    @TheWolf5575 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Every time he said Synth I heard Simp.

  • @Jibb3rs
    @Jibb3rs ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Loving the series dude

  • @UndeadCookieMonster
    @UndeadCookieMonster ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like your point on Maxson & Sarah Lyons but a question I've always wondered and never gotten answer to is whether not Bethesda directly acknowledges FO 1, 2, and NV lore. They have carried over a fair amount of FO 1 & 2 lore(Harold, Brotherhood of Steel, the FEV, the Enclave), especially considering that, IIRC, it's directly stated on a terminal(nevermind the name itself) that Arthur Maxson is the DIRECT ANCESTOR to Roger Maxson, who is a pre-war military captain(so the lineage goes back far), and the creator of the Brotherhood of Steel. As far as I've experienced however, there's little crossover between the West and the East coasts. I like the idea that the West coast is somehow still a strong force and is in contact with the East coast, but given Fallout New Vegas, the situation seems a little grim. So maybe it has something to do with the "inner circle" Christine was part of, something that probably would've been established post-Fallout 2(as in Fallout 2, the Brotherhood is mysteriously absent with exception to one person, presumably the same person, you meet throughout several areas that gives you hints and access to brotherhood bunkers throughout the game. In Fallout 2, I think the implication is that the Brotherhood had to go into hiding for a bit due to the 'war' with the Enclave, and you can see this in New Vegas too with the Hidden Valley bunker. Some kind of organization controlling the Maxson bloodline would make sense overall though, as throughout all the games it's been a consistent fact that the Brotherhood as a whole is very traditional and very uptight about its rules. Any sort of change would cause issues within the organization as a whole, and it's made clear in FO3 that the Capital Wasteland Brotherhood is not exactly keeping to its roots, and the outcasts defecting probably don't help the situation either.
    So, to summarize, you're probably right on most accounts with exception to *who* would be controlling Maxson is something that seems to be the missing puzzle piece, as even if you consider that Maxson himself orchestrated all of this, you'd have to wonder how a child would've planned the coup, for something that he was already entitled to as per his bloodline. IIRC the same terminal in FO3 details that the plan is for Maxson to grow up until he's fit to lead. It's an interesting part of Fallout's lore because ultimately the Brotherhood, outside of the Enclave, is THE pre-war remnants of the Fallout universe. Nothing pre-war really exists outside of smaller 'factions' e.g. The Think Tank, The Institute if you don't destroy it, The Enclave if they somehow still exist, although speaking on The Enclave, they almost certainly have bases all over the US as a concerted effort to have post-war military presence as opposed to The Brotherhood, which has its roots in a single military installment at a military base who then abandoned the location after the war to then make their own faction.

  • @Trivial_Whim
    @Trivial_Whim ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh oh! I know! I know a non-offensive art for child killer!
    Vault Boy with a child in front of him, one hand open with candies in it and the other behind his back with a knife ready.
    You know where it’s going, but it hasn’t happened yet.

  • @JDBriceProductions
    @JDBriceProductions ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember calling the Vault Tec number during the time of Fallout 3. That was fun.

    • @jeffdroog
      @jeffdroog 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cool fucking story! I bet your parents are proud of that lol

  • @garyisfat
    @garyisfat ปีที่แล้ว

    just so you know ive watched like every one of ur vids. the iceberg vids are awesome. however i thought was subbed to you to the point i never missed one of ur vids. dunno why i had to seek you out but i figure id let u kno

  • @artlozano7149
    @artlozano7149 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got to work and I will be listening to this while I set up🤝

  • @dagothur2666
    @dagothur2666 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You should do a video on the idea of if the Master really lived

  • @techpriestemily
    @techpriestemily ปีที่แล้ว +3

    An Ultracite Titan? That's a new boss... it's been a long time since I played 76. That arena looks way better than the one for that one Wendigo guy, at least. I miss 76.

  • @Matt-md5yt
    @Matt-md5yt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    sweet this is awesome to hear for today

  • @briansilva6160
    @briansilva6160 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If this is the half way mark, then I don’t want to stop till we are all the way down

  • @ZacharySnyder-ie6cg
    @ZacharySnyder-ie6cg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    god a shotfun wedding with cass having the freeking King as the pastor would have been glorious.

    • @changvasejarik62
      @changvasejarik62 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Seriously, I could think of three things I’d cut before the wedding. well if nothing else AI voices bring us one step closer to creating that mod.

  • @benjijacobs2049
    @benjijacobs2049 ปีที่แล้ว

    I genuinely didn’t think about that old world blues comparison, I think that’s so cool especially since I remembered reading it as a kid

  • @Nautinthislifetime
    @Nautinthislifetime ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Paladin Danse is also a Synth. Designation M7-97. There are many theories as to why he in the Brotherhood...such as being a runaway synth, reprogrammed by the railroad or a sleeper agent who never completed his mission due to some errors in his programming.

    • @ace_7901
      @ace_7901 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s explicitly said so in the game, so that’s why he excluded it

  • @DDSForbbiden
    @DDSForbbiden ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the Fallout 4 protagonist had forgotten much of their past before being frozen as a side effect of being held in cryogenic stacis for so long.

  • @jeremyhall2727
    @jeremyhall2727 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's some interesting stuff here. There's a mod for fallout 2 where you can add the baby killer perk too your game. I love fan made mods. And removing the bloody timers in fallout one

  • @Hydraagent-eh4yb
    @Hydraagent-eh4yb ปีที่แล้ว +4

    22:50 Did you just forget to mention that Danae is a synth?

  • @Nikolaj11
    @Nikolaj11 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another read on the "Puppet-Maxon" idea could be that his appointment was a solution. Like, after Sara Lyon's death took the BoS by surprise, we'll assume, and after a couple of these ineffectual leaders with no prepared vision or ambition, Arthur was chosen because he showcased a natural willingness to combat the Brotherhood's enemies and was a useful figurehead to rally the CW Brotherhood around to avoid further fragmentation.

  • @themrfives
    @themrfives ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I am *DEAD CERTAIN* Paladin Danse is a synth. I know this because on one playthrough I sided with the institute, went back to where you first meet danse, killed him and found a synth component in his inventory.

    • @Cthulhuwarlord
      @Cthulhuwarlord ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I swear I remember finding one on him as well. Maybe it’s a Mandela effect

    • @elfarlaur
      @elfarlaur ปีที่แล้ว +25

      He's 100% a synth. If you side with the Brotherhood there's a whole quest about it. He just wasn't mentioned in this video because it's outright stated in game.

    • @jeffdroog
      @jeffdroog 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you're dead,how are you commenting? Seems like you're also a compulsive liar lol

  • @cherrify3498
    @cherrify3498 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    did anyone else notice that he said morbius instead of mobius?

  • @haydes1285
    @haydes1285 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    13:55 dr mobius, not morbius, he’s not gonna morb all over the place

    • @derekmensch3601
      @derekmensch3601 ปีที่แล้ว

      Idk he might with how much Psycho he takes

    • @haydes1285
      @haydes1285 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@derekmensch3601 mobius does mentats not psycho

    • @derekmensch3601
      @derekmensch3601 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Haydes He does both. He has lines about making that threatening Message to the Think tank while tripping on Psycho.

    • @Eagleboy90210
      @Eagleboy90210 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I feel like the doctor could make a vampire man bat with enough drugs and time

  • @lostbutfreesoul
    @lostbutfreesoul ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I could draw child killer in a 'tasteful' way:
    Small coffin, crying parents standing over it....

  • @hoagie911
    @hoagie911 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg that Wizard of Oz parallel blew my mind

  • @AmayaHinageshi
    @AmayaHinageshi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    23:32 I wonder if Tinker Tom or one of the other Railroad members specifically learned how to extract her synth component? It would make sense, assuming that she lingers around the headquarters far more than any of the other synths and wouldn't want to have anything in/on her persons that might jeopardize their operations.

  • @KS-PNW
    @KS-PNW ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I really don't think the "child killer" stuff even ranks in terms of offensiveness anymore. It's really pretty tame compared to games like psycho and manhunt...

  • @ZaleraArkanus666
    @ZaleraArkanus666 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol. I was playing Fallout while I was listening to this and I missed part of what you were saying, so I was hearing your list of Synths as 'simp.' I was confused for a second.

  • @tophatcat6424
    @tophatcat6424 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How the hell is Maxson in fo4 only 20 years old, and how did I never find out until now?

  • @jonathandaffron1781
    @jonathandaffron1781 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like Tranquility Lane, and maybe the Big MT housing area are a small reference to TV Town.

  • @KenwrathKDK
    @KenwrathKDK 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeeeeessss I’ve always felt that Maxon either couldn’t get lions to change to his ideals and “had” to kill her and thats why her death weighed so heavily on him. Or that he found out someone else had her killed in order to get him the Elder position.

  • @casulscrub5978
    @casulscrub5978 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My favorite thing about Dr. Morbius is that when you confront him and ask about his hostility he just confesses to taking copious amounts of Psycho.

    • @Rahkoi
      @Rahkoi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mobius*

    • @casulscrub5978
      @casulscrub5978 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Rahkoi No, I was referring directly to the vampire. Thanks for contributing absolutely nothing to the conversation :)

    • @Rahkoi
      @Rahkoi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@casulscrub5978 No problem, lad :)

  • @ineptitude
    @ineptitude ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve toyed with the idea of making s’lanter “canon” by incorporating their backstory for the Hairy Deathclaws in Tactics. Of course, that’s not canon either and I don’t work for Bethesda or Interplay, I’m just some guy.
    But it’d be fun homebrew for the 2d20 game.

  • @elizawulf8180
    @elizawulf8180 ปีที่แล้ว

    Project V13 interests me, with the three Caleb Cleveland weapon concepts and power armor that were made into mods for New Vegas & 4

  • @_0_0___
    @_0_0___ ปีที่แล้ว

    I dialed the number, man you weren't kidding I really shouldn't have...

  • @ricomock2
    @ricomock2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jenkem was not a real world drug. It was a joke/prank started by the internet forum Totse, which was a predecessor of 4chan and once of the very first internet bulletin board style chat communities

  • @andrews.4780
    @andrews.4780 ปีที่แล้ว

    Down the rabbit hole we go

  • @herow-uj2ou
    @herow-uj2ou ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most of those synths are mentioned to be synths from either quests or other characters telling you

  • @skywise001
    @skywise001 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You seem to be deliberatly skipping over some dialog with DiMA and the console in the Institute (Todd's secret). Your character says plainly he does not remember anything but that day. The console is about the new courser with the ability to use VATS.

    • @Evarakeus
      @Evarakeus ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is a dialogue error, your character makes clear allusions to prior events during the pre-war segment. Not to mention, it can't possibly be an implanted memory because you actually play it, you have agency during it. There are also other instances, such as when meeting the Greentop bots, where Nate/Nora allude to seeing things on TV or reading things in comic books, etc.

    • @jeffdroog
      @jeffdroog 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's clearly fucking wrong lol If not,your character wouldn't know who Shaun or Nora are,and none of this game would have happened lol

  • @gregmarcus6752
    @gregmarcus6752 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Forgotten bits of it? He seemed pretty familiar with the story to me.

  • @peanutmoose9591
    @peanutmoose9591 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I FOR ONE DEMAND MOR INTELLIGENT ANIMALS.

  • @kazeanatauri
    @kazeanatauri ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When you're passively listening and you accidentally hear Simp instead of Synth 😆 *me wondering if it autoplayed to a random video*

  • @bluelionsage99
    @bluelionsage99 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wasn't that Brotherhood knight that can a NPC help-mate a synth ? If I recall I ended up having to decide on killing him (at his own request) or not in Fallout 4.

    • @HelheimMudkip
      @HelheimMudkip ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I was surprised he was left out here

    • @jeffdroog
      @jeffdroog 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you can't remember what you're talking about,maybe stay off the fucking internet lol

  • @Chris-zr2jk
    @Chris-zr2jk ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The thing about the Sole Survivor being a synth, is it ever proven that Synths can or will ever use V.A.T.S at all?
    I'm genuinely curious, I don't remember much from playing the game, I always saw it as the developers not wanting to code when the VATS are activated, upon grabbing the pip-boy.

    • @MiaJoBella
      @MiaJoBella ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I believe there is a terminal about synths having VATS in the Institute, yes. Though I agree the "not wanting to program" bit is just as likely. Still, a fun extra bit to the theory

    • @Chris-zr2jk
      @Chris-zr2jk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MiaJoBella Thank you for the reply, and for sure I can see that being a fun theory

    • @lartonki
      @lartonki 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And in fact when you get out off cryopod you cant use VATS until you pick up weapon. I belive reason for that is simply that devs wants to teach VATS for players against very weak enemies like radroaches, overall first 30-60 minutes feels like tutorial like for example when Sturges telling abaout power armor you have even option ask what is power armor like you wouldnt never hear of it even tho you have being army veteran.

  • @Happiest_Potato
    @Happiest_Potato ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 22:33 all I heard was ''Simp, Simp, Simp.''
    Lmao

  • @changvasejarik62
    @changvasejarik62 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don’t intend to call but please remember reverse psychology before telling us not to do something repeatedly.

  • @markcarpenter6020
    @markcarpenter6020 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can know what things are without actually remembering them. There is a specific from of amnesia where that happens. It's possible to forget your past but still remember how to do math. Work a car and tie your shoes. So knowing about things prewar is no proof the SS has memories of life pre war.

  • @fleayou2840
    @fleayou2840 ปีที่แล้ว

    i remember calling the vault tec phone number years ago and i dont remember if it worked or not

  • @o.k.productions5202
    @o.k.productions5202 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love that it took Pink Slime to make people question water was going into food, yes it’s gross but not actually that bad.

  • @Serene_F
    @Serene_F ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to watch a video about all the details of those intelligent racoons!

    • @jeffdroog
      @jeffdroog 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He did give us all of the details lol They are CUT content.Not really implemented,or expanded upon by the creators.Use your fucking head lol

  • @valor1omega
    @valor1omega ปีที่แล้ว

    I always felt jet was prewar and the fool in the post war era either just took credit for it or rediscovered it and that is why it shows up in the drug addict vault in fo4.
    It's nice that this TH-camr reconfirm it "jet existed in some form prewar..."

  • @williammars592
    @williammars592 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I honestly figured Arthur killed Sarah in battle, and successfully passed it off as either a casualty of raiders of friendly fire, with the subsequent number of failed elders being a standard succession crisis all autocratic hierarchies have when faced without a clear leader amplified by strong divisions between Lyons-supporters and Transitionalists and Maxon trying to expedite his way to Elder

    • @jeffdroog
      @jeffdroog 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's okay,your thoughts,and personal opinions,have no effect on reality,and the facts lol Shut the fuck up.

  • @shaynecarter-murray3127
    @shaynecarter-murray3127 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Pink slime" is just a bad name for a practice that reduces food waste and helps mitigate prices

  • @tinmen5943
    @tinmen5943 ปีที่แล้ว

    There was cut content of a old npc that looks like the sole survivor

  • @Badclamz83GaMinG
    @Badclamz83GaMinG 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I absolutely agree with the whole Sarah Lyons theory! Definitely never felt right finding out that she pasted the way we do. Such an important Character in FO3 to just find out that she died less then 2 years after FO3 always felt Crazy! And with such little information about it I dunno have to agree that there should have been more for such a memorable character that played such a Large Role in hundreds of hours spent in the Capital Wasteland

  • @IofSheikah
    @IofSheikah ปีที่แล้ว

    22:30 when going through the characters it sounds like he’s calling them all Simps lmfaooo

  • @biggiepuffs5368
    @biggiepuffs5368 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Me: minding my own business
    Me at 5:31 : OH MY GOD USE A RADAWAY!!!

    • @Spiketrooper
      @Spiketrooper ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think having high rad count is a strategy in 76, there's some perk that gives you huge benefits having high rads