The fact that Doug Brignole goes into the history of where these exercises come from is fascinating only but then to dispel the myths behind them is truly sublime
It’s funny because Louis Simmons of Westside barbell is always preaching the importance of training muscles in isolation to increase the numbers on compound lifts. He says in many of his writings that the compound lifts are dangerous and should be done for singles, doubles, or triples. He is also a big proponent of SAFETY and does not have his clients do barbell squats if they are not power lifters. I wonder how many ppl know that.
Like you pointed out, weight training for strength is a relatively new process for humanity. Probably mid 1800’s if not later. That said, even the best of them were not developed like today’s top bodybuilders. Take Eugene Sandow for instance which the Mr. Olympia trophy is named after. He wouldn’t qualify for an IFBB pro card in today’s world. However when you go way back in time and look at the statues and artwork from the Grecian empire period. More often than not, the men were portrayed with massive musculatures at a time when we knew very little about human anatomy never mind how muscles grew. I often wonder how they came up with those if they didn’t actually have real life examples to go by and if they did, how those men got those physiques to begin with.
If you wanted to polish your wrist watch because it had some light surface scratches, would you polish your car and watch at the same time? Of course not. People don't get it.
Here is the deal. Doug's training is gear toward old folks with a lot less degree of injury and more focused to isolation movements. I guarantee you if you put a couple of novice trainers on a 3 month training regimen; one using Doug's training methods and the other using the compound movements (squats, deadlift, bench, pull ups and presses, rows) on split day of course, the guy/girl on the compound movements will exhibit a lot more muscularity all over his/her body due to the compound movements than the guy/girl using the isolated exercises promoted by Doug. The problem with the compound movements is ego, where ego becomes our enemy , we shift our focus from form and feeling the muscle to lifting poundage (numbers at the expense of form). Again nothing against Doug. I guess it all depends on what your goals are. Any exercise is better than no exercise and as the saying goes, the best exercise is the one that you are not doing....my 2cents!!
Spartan Ph, why would the compound exercises make you more muscular than isolated exercises working each body part individually? It seems like the isolated exercises would make you more muscular. Let say you only used the compound exercises, would you biceps look more muscular than someone who included the isolated bicep curls for the bicep? And if you agree that the isolated bicep curls make your bicep look more muscular than just using compound exercises then why wouldn’t the same principle apply to all the other isolated body part exercises.
@@davidplyler8173 A little late, but I'm exercising my legs doing isolation work, and I'm getting better results than doing compound. In compound exercises, my glutes tend to take more responsibility over my quadriceps. So as i want to develop each part equally, i decided to move on isolation work. I tend to test every now and then some compound to check if "i lost strength" and the result is negative lol. Hope this helps to clarify a bit. It's all a matter to let the ego aside and test.
Hey Doug, what exercise do you recommend for the neck? I know it's rather neglected but i'm a thin ectomorph type and the pencil neck is started to show...
Your neck should gradually build up as you gain muscle over your entire body; however, Doug recommends lying down on the floor on your back and raising your head up and forward in a relatively slow cadence to prevent injury.
Muscle building requires a specific type of training, specific exercises, set up, frequency, intensity, recovery etc... The Brig-20 exercises are considered foundational. Here is why: we all have the same joint design, the same muscles, the same bone structure... When we work our muscles individually using the BRIG-20 exercises, they will all work to full capacity, therefore each muscle will optimally develop and strengthen. Whatever skill movement after that we do, our body will respond much better because we are working with a stronger body as compared to strengthening those same muscles using compound lifts where these muscles are contributing partially. We might achieve the same progress and results but with far more wear and tear, muscle injury and longer process. Speed and explosivity can be trained separately but we will achieve greater explosivity and greater speed when incorporating the BRIG-20 frequently in the training program.
@@SmartTraining365Biomechanics thank you for the answer. So in short you would suggest doing the brig 20 in addition to the compound power work, or just doing the brig 20 faster/more powerfully instead of any compound work? Is this stuff explained in the book? I want a hard copy and online copy, is there a way to get both? Thanks again
@@mountdoomee you can get the hardcopy from dougbrignole.com The E-pub you can get from the publisher healthylearning.com It's also included in the online program as the course curriculum
If you think Doug is any old personal trainer your sadly mistaken .Best advice out there .no bullshit truth based on physics and biomechanics not opinions .
@@samscott6880 No, telling people to do barbell exercises is bro science......since stopping all barbell movements, my shoulder and joint injuries have disappeared and my results have doubled.....barbells are part of the old dogma, this guy knows his stuff, you cannot argue against biomechanics and physics......they are perhaps too complex for the bro advocates who do not have the neurological capacity to comprehend them....
The fact that Doug Brignole goes into the history of where these exercises come from is fascinating only but then to dispel the myths behind them is truly sublime
It’s funny because Louis Simmons of Westside barbell is always preaching the importance of training muscles in isolation to increase the numbers on compound lifts. He says in many of his writings that the compound lifts are dangerous and should be done for singles, doubles, or triples. He is also a big proponent of SAFETY and does not have his clients do barbell squats if they are not power lifters. I wonder how many ppl know that.
Like you pointed out, weight training for strength is a relatively new process for humanity. Probably mid 1800’s if not later. That said, even the best of them were not developed like today’s top bodybuilders. Take Eugene Sandow for instance which the Mr. Olympia trophy is named after. He wouldn’t qualify for an IFBB pro card in today’s world. However when you go way back in time and look at the statues and artwork from the Grecian empire period. More often than not, the men were portrayed with massive musculatures at a time when we knew very little about human anatomy never mind how muscles grew. I often wonder how they came up with those if they didn’t actually have real life examples to go by and if they did, how those men got those physiques to begin with.
Did you watch the full webinar compound versus isolation?
@@SmartTraining365Biomechanics No I wasn’t sure where to find the link.
@@wataboutya9310 online.smarttraining365.com/masterclass/
If you wanted to polish your wrist watch because it had some light surface scratches, would you polish your car and watch at the same time? Of course not. People don't get it.
Here is the deal. Doug's training is gear toward old folks with a lot less degree of injury and more focused to isolation movements. I guarantee you if you put a couple of novice trainers on a 3 month training regimen; one using Doug's training methods and the other using the compound movements (squats, deadlift, bench, pull ups and presses, rows) on split day of course, the guy/girl on the compound movements will exhibit a lot more muscularity all over his/her body due to the compound movements than the guy/girl using the isolated exercises promoted by Doug. The problem with the compound movements is ego, where ego becomes our enemy , we shift our focus from form and feeling the muscle to lifting poundage (numbers at the expense of form). Again nothing against Doug. I guess it all depends on what your goals are. Any exercise is better than no exercise and as the saying goes, the best exercise is the one that you are not doing....my 2cents!!
Nonsense muscles work in the same way if your Young or old 🤦🏾♂️
Spartan Ph, why would the compound exercises make you more muscular than isolated exercises working each body part individually? It seems like the isolated exercises would make you more muscular. Let say you only used the compound exercises, would you biceps look more muscular than someone who included the isolated bicep curls for the bicep? And if you agree that the isolated bicep curls make your bicep look more muscular than just using compound exercises then why wouldn’t the same principle apply to all the other isolated body part exercises.
It would be interesting too see a study of this idea.
@@davidplyler8173 A little late, but I'm exercising my legs doing isolation work, and I'm getting better results than doing compound. In compound exercises, my glutes tend to take more responsibility over my quadriceps. So as i want to develop each part equally, i decided to move on isolation work. I tend to test every now and then some compound to check if "i lost strength" and the result is negative lol. Hope this helps to clarify a bit. It's all a matter to let the ego aside and test.
Hey Doug, what exercise do you recommend for the neck? I know it's rather neglected but i'm a thin ectomorph type and the pencil neck is started to show...
Your neck should gradually build up as you gain muscle over your entire body; however, Doug recommends lying down on the floor on your back and raising your head up and forward in a relatively slow cadence to prevent injury.
Doug you truly are amazing question tho in the bent press that saxon did is it ok to do this since it's technically not a press ty
Thank you
sorry where i can get the master class compound vs isolation video?
You need to register to watch the documentary first at SmartTraining365.com then you will receive it in one of the sequences
If I just want access and buy the brignole method, is that possible and how much would it cost?
Hi Zaza, can you please send me an email smarttraining365@gmail.com, I will send you few options
Save the money and join a certified strength coach. You'll make further progress.
How about people looking to develop explosive power/speed? I feel like compounds are required for that.
Muscle building requires a specific type of training, specific exercises, set up, frequency, intensity, recovery etc... The Brig-20 exercises are considered foundational. Here is why: we all have the same joint design, the same muscles, the same bone structure... When we work our muscles individually using the BRIG-20 exercises, they will all work to full capacity, therefore each muscle will optimally develop and strengthen. Whatever skill movement after that we do, our body will respond much better because we are working with a stronger body as compared to strengthening those same muscles using compound lifts where these muscles are contributing partially. We might achieve the same progress and results but with far more wear and tear, muscle injury and longer process. Speed and explosivity can be trained separately but we will achieve greater explosivity and greater speed when incorporating the BRIG-20 frequently in the training program.
@@SmartTraining365Biomechanics thank you for the answer. So in short you would suggest doing the brig 20 in addition to the compound power work, or just doing the brig 20 faster/more powerfully instead of any compound work? Is this stuff explained in the book? I want a hard copy and online copy, is there a way to get both? Thanks again
@@mountdoomee you can get the hardcopy from dougbrignole.com
The E-pub you can get from the publisher healthylearning.com
It's also included in the online program as the course curriculum
Then came the phrase " what da ya bench ?
Let me guess. Doug is a personal trainer? Makes sense financially to give bad training advice to people.
If you think Doug is any old personal trainer your sadly mistaken .Best advice out there .no bullshit truth based on physics and biomechanics not opinions .
@@robbarker4214 Telling people not to include barbell complexes in their training program is bro-science.
@@samscott6880 No, telling people to do barbell exercises is bro science......since stopping all barbell movements, my shoulder and joint injuries have disappeared and my results have doubled.....barbells are part of the old dogma, this guy knows his stuff, you cannot argue against biomechanics and physics......they are perhaps too complex for the bro advocates who do not have the neurological capacity to comprehend them....
@@james197091 Hahaha. Bullshit.
@@james197091 Yes. Because all of those Olympic lifters that specialise in barbell movements are all small and weak.