Maruti Suzuki Jimny vs Mahindra Thar - Welcome to the jungle | Comparison | Autocar India
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- It's India's most popular off-roader versus the most anticipated new off-roader. It's time for Thar vs Jimny. Nikhil Bhatia spends quality time with the duo over a wet, wet week and unravels layers of their personalities.
Cameraperson: Sharad Vegada
Editor: Mohit Sharma
0:00 - Introduction
0:38 - Off-road data
1:32 - Obstacle 1
3:14 - Obstacle 2
5:11 - Obstacle 3
6:11 - Off-road overview
7:57 - Dimensions and design
8:48 - Jimny interior
9:57 - Thar interior
11:16 - Features
11:41 - Safety equipment
12:10 - Thar rear seat
13:02 - Jimny rear seat
13:54 - Luggage area
14:22 - Jimny ride and handling
15:48 - Thar ride and handling
17:19 - Braking
17:28 - Engine options
18:04 - Thar performance
19:17 - Jimny performance
21:04 - Fuel economy
21:28 - Price and variants
22:20 - Verdict
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Need a thar petrol mld 2021 comparison with thar petrol bld after 2021
I need buy a off roader
And can mahindra provide mld as option in petrol
What about safety rating of jimmy
where is force gurkha??
Where is ghurkha
Jimny... Aaaja aja.... 😂😁😝👏👏👍
Jimny is doing all that thar did but with highway tyres, really really impressive. Big slap to those who compare it with espresso, Gypsy can finally pass it's throne to jimny
Anyone that takes an Spresso over this for offroad is tempting fate and is taking being a cheapskate to new ridiculous heights. The Spresso can deal with a bad pothole, not climb up a mountain.
Green espresso 😂
@@DarthVader-vh5yq It is clearly evident you are not even able to buy an alto till date in your life, hello keyboard warrior Jimny known for its capability internationally and now 5 door has proven its worth so your immature statement doesn't count
Actually I was a fan of jimny in Dubai.... But when I see it on road, it was not looking good in Indian background....( direct view)
@@Lakshmidasaa For mee too, I had seen it from Kuwait. It was absolutely beautiful, the it was having good on road presence. Seeing Jimny on Indian roads seems like it's not worth it. I was waiting for jimny to be launched here now I feels like It ain't meant for Indian roads and terrains. It would have been better if they were to launch a 3 door version.
The jimny seems like a no nonsense, no showoff car. It will take you anywhere, will last you forever, and is much more practical for your family.
Broo it's the stupidest looking and old tech car with stupid pricing like no one's gonna pay 14 lakhs for that , it's a bit too much with very less security , if it would have been at a price point around 8 lakhs then it would have made it into a phenomenon but at this pricing it's shit
Agreed. Only problem I think is it will take one out of the world too in case of a crash
@@futureminds9742 @ArpanMukhopadhyay93 if you are worried about an accident, you should probably take a bus or a train to be safer. You know the kicker, even when they meet with an accident still there's no guarantee for your life....lol
@@futureminds9742 we all know that a true 4x4 is expensive and cannot be offered below 12 lakh rs.
Looks are subjective so won't comment on that. Yes the transmission is a generation old but the tech is proven and one can find 100s of reviews of this goat on the internet. Finally, the practicality is better than that in the thar. Until the thar 5 door arrives, the jimny is the only 4*4 option for families.
Those slim wagonr like doors in jimny is not safe
Watching Nikhil’s reviews and comparisons is a pleasure, as he isn’t the i-know-it-all guy, and feels like a friend explaining the features of her/his new car.
+1.
And he is just under 6 feet tall
@@San-ux8kf lol🤣
@@San-ux8kfI was about to say that
If you must buy the thar, buy it second hand from people who thought their family would be happy with this car.
Why would anyone will buy thar as a family vehicle
@@ajx5840 In case they did and you find one, you get a pretty under-used car for less money 🤣
Lol
@@ajx5840you'd be surprised by how many people did exactly that.
There's plenty of low run Thar's on sale because owners misjudged the ride quality and practicality. Makes real good financial sense to get one from the pre owned market
This has got to be the most comprehensive review out there. Hats off man.
Jimny : Well engineered, tested and reliable product!
Thar : Showoff
Power entered the chat
@@FGAMERZ07 mileage left the chat
Start doing more comparisons than reviews. There are so many sub 4 meter soft roaders out there. You guys could have a 7 SUV showdown or similar and compare them side by side before picking a winner
They’ve done it before
@@sravans149yep
On it!
@@sravans149 yes
@@autocarindia1 You can start off with a Thar vs Gurkha vs Jimny shootout.
Well Balanced review from Autocar.
I think Jimmy would be a good choice for a young family fond of Driving holidays.
When camera is inside jimny, it works ok with minimal shake. When it is inside thar, it shakes like it is fixed to an umbrella in the beach 😂😂
@praveenpgec , jimny is for women and thar is for Real men.😅
@@goldy8556 That's the most lamest as well as sexist comment. If you call yourself a REAL man then try driving a Stock Maruti Gypsy without diff locks, without lift kits and without AT tires.
@@goldy8556you seem to be a true auto enthusiast 🥹💀
@@goldy8556Thar is for Gay men , while Jimmy is for Real Men
@@goldy8556 Real men don't rely on their tool, they use their skills.
This comparison is awesome. Jimny seems to be a tough competition. It looks so cool. Its tiny yet provides good space.
It looks like a toy
It is actually very spacious inside in person...
I have both Thar Automatic 4×4 Diesel & Jimny automatic 4x4 Alpha,...... my verdict is jimny is practical and can be had if you have to keep single vehicle..... but Thar must be the second vehicle in your house.... if Jimny may had priced 2 Lakh cheaper, it would have had created miracles in term of sales..... whereas Thar is very punching and peppier but a bit stiff in ride.... on the other hand Jimny is a bit slow but very comfortable, and best in city traffic..... my suggestion to mahindra is to fit the 4×2 Thar Diesel engine (1.5 litre, 4 cylinder engine) in Bolero Neo (TUV 300) and make 4×4 Automatic Bolero Neo, which will give big fight to Jimny and even Thar.....
Jimny can't do offroad without revving up
Plz no ...i just bought the neo... Cant afford to sale this 🤣... Nyways they wont do that....cause this would canibalize the thar as well the scorpio N z4 sales
Chal jhootha 😂
Bolero neo weights like 1600 kg, its slow af in rwd format adding 4x4 will further increase weight by 100 to 150 kg
@@AspirantKanishka Thar cant do off-road at all
For those who wanna see what truly jimny is capable of watch foreign videos with offroad tyres, then you'll don't even compare it with thar 😂
My perception of the Jimny has changed significantly with this video. Good job, Nikhil! I've realized that the Jimny is a hugely capable SUV and shouldn't be underestimated for it diminutive size. I'll pick it any day over the Thar. I just wish the Jimny had an engine with nearly Thar levels of performance, in which case it would just fly with its light weight. Now I'd just like to see a comparison with the Gurkha :) :)
Turbo Kits are available for that
It will literally start flying because it's light weight tin ka daba 😂😂 no global ncap rating probably 0star 😂
All-terrain tires vs. Tarmac tires - Choosing the right tires can make a huge difference! All-terrain for off-road adventures, while tarmac tires excel on smooth roads!
Great review, Nikhil, as always. A couple of quick points: steering knuckle design on solid axles vis-a-vis independent front suspension results in larger turning radius for Jimny. Thar's plastic roof is a no no in my book and Thar's portly weight and dimensions clearly are a handicap on the ruff stuff. I wish Jimny came with a six speed torque converter though. For people living in the hills Jimny is a better bet and for the folks in the plains Thar is the way to go. Overall Jimny seems to be a better engineered product.
Very good observation 👍
The one who doesn't have a good road presence surprisingly won the race! 😆😆
Naturally, the powerful engine paired with the light body would make jimny an absolute beast for off-roading. Thar is great and has the "road presence" most people want but in a straight up off road battle, I think Jimny takes the cake.
No the light weight tin box will brake into pieces with thars engine 😂 it's just a cheap tin box with big shokers 😂 it won't score 1 star in global ncap no safety what so even the platics in the vehicle will break and fall of in few off road runs and the vehicle shock absorbers will cost a fortune to repair and I promise they will need a ton of repair 😂
23:16-23:26 ❤.. loved it! Great job 👏👍
The Jimny is a very accomplished and a proper VFM product. Those with more moolah can go for a Thar.
It's absolutely amazing to see how different the Jimny is from the original Gypsy.
The Jimny may not be very large but it sure is very agile.
If you see the evolution of the Jimny from an international perspective, then you can see how it slowly developed into how it looks right now. India only got one generation of it, so it feels weird.
Jimy is just a fail product. Thar is true offroad king in world. Looks best. Hindu company 🙏. Not like unsafe saruti muzuki.
Jimy is just a fail product. Thar is true offroad king in world. Looks best. Hindu company 🙏. Not like unsafe saruti muzuki.
@@DarthVader-vh5yqGet off your phone lmao.
What's moolah sht.. ?
My god.. so much in details... WOW. This is hell of a comparison
Jimny anyday. Looks cooler too especially when modded🔥🤗
Crash test score ?
@@mr.emotionalartist you're saying the same sh*t everywhere, nig*a chill
The professional and proficient nature of Autocar reviews is what makes them one of the best.
Sure. 'Professionally' comparing a 3 door with a 5 door car.
@@AbhishekKumar-vx9ub if buyers are cross-shopping between a similar 3 door product and a 5 door product......Media houses are obliged to compared them.
Fantastic knowledge based review and 100% marks to your Video Grapher.
Keep it up.
Really? 🤦 The offroad knowledge is dismal.
Really recommending the original 3 door Jimny to be launched in India. Real compact, rugged, cute and durable vehicle which ahould be introduced in India atleast in limited numbers for every year in a limited quantity of 5000 units in both ZETA & ALPHA in both manual and automatic. If we see everything only based on practicality and for families there will not be real good vehicles in India. There should be option for the people in India for the 3 door Jimny. Recommending all auto journalists and people of India to request to Maruthi Suzuki to launch 3 door Jimny in India.
So true. They are anyway making it here. Make it limited edition or something, give diff lockers and may be a centre diff. Perfect toy for people who enjoy off road.
The three door Jimny is pointless in the face of the 5 door when the 5 door is better in all ways. The only downside with the 3 door is that the backseats of the 5 door dont have that rough back plastic coating to make it easier to slide in loads and put in things that could easily scratch the fabric.
@@mindfreeze0838There is no use in arguing with people of ur kind of mindset where the huge number of Indian population see everything based only on value and cost and practicality. Thats why the enthusiasts in India are not able to enjoy the good things which are available all over the world in more than 190 countries as 3 door Jimny. Where the 5 door was developed for Indian families in mind who think they only need to be considered.
As I said before this should be launched in limited numbers in India.
Nobody is forcing you to take 3 door Jimny. There are some consumers who like the original correctly propotioned internationally available one, not the stretched 5 door one.
@@tijokurian3820 if I were to look at the motoring media landscape and make an assessment on the mindset of the average Indian consumer I would believe they are rabid petrol heads that want even 7 seat MPV's to have a 0-100kph time of less than 5 seconds so your argument cuts both ways. Internationally one of the main complaints about the Jimny was its lack of practicality in the boot. It should also be noted that no one seems to know yet if markets that offer the 3 door will discontinue it for the 5 door, however I dont think its feasible as those markets have customers cutting their orders for the 3 door in favour of the 5 door. Look both cars drive roughly the same and the market is not there worldwide for the 3 door. If you really, really want the 3 door youll have to get it on your own.
@@mindfreeze0838 Enlighten me to come to real world that only the engineers in India had the brains to make other people think about practicality and make the majority of the people think and change their decision all over the world that the real deal is a 5 door Jimny. The designers and engineers from 1970 until 2018 didnt have the capability and foresight to think about India but for all the other countries they had no qualms.
Jimny looks cool♥️ a perfect lifestyle vehicle❤
Waited out this particular comparison from Autocar ! Its always unbiased that's the beauty of Autocar Team. ❤
Bhaisahab, loon kaunsa gaddi? I was waiting eagerly for this review, now I'm more confused at the end. Or should I just go for the C3 Aircross?
Or should I wait for the Gncap rating and then go ahead with the best option?
Very nicely described, great presentation ❤
All i can learn from this is a very good English instead of core offroad capabilities. Gokd job AutoCar as always - your English classes are good
Top class review
Satisfied 😊
Woow Perfect Comparison Wonderful-Sanjoga Waagleee
I have a thar and the back seat comfort with the recliner is amazing. And good leg knee and head room. ( I’m 5.10 body builder). I can’t understand how it’s looking super small to this fellow
Thar looks huge ! However, despite its ‘hugeness’, no luggage space and a hassle to access the rear seat. Jimny, while diminutive, it has fairly good boot space and moderately usable back seats.
I believe jymny is overpriced for its engine capacity. If four seats utilization is not the priority, then better to go for thar😊.
Lol 😂
@@neo3823 🤔
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Can't be when both thar and jimny produce same p2w figures.
@@debasisghadai3633 I don't think both p/w ratio is same.
Jimny and Thar is completely off road mechine but still thar is my first preference
All in all, I feel the Jimny is priced a bit too high for what it offers. Both performed exceptionally well off-road, and I didn’t see the Jimny showing any clear advantage over the Thar.
However, most people won’t be taking these off-road as much as one might think, and their use might be limited to that of a rugged lifestyle SUV feel that many want to experience while living in the urban jungle, and that’s where the Thar clearly WINS, with its large size, imposing stance and a commanding seating position, which are the aspects most would care about. Even the reasonably priced 4X2 Thar provides all these things, and so for me…
THAR IS THE WINNER HERE.
Not too high, manual variants are cheap compared to automatic.
People are losing their mind when they are seeing top model automatics or automatic variants in general.
Also you're not gonna do much with a 4x2 when the roads are slushy or muddy.
So you want a car that looks tough but isnt? Look at something else, this will only give a short term thrill and before long when the hype generated dies down youre back again looking for that next new car status high.
I agree the Jimny is a bit overpriced. However you clearly forgot to mention many points-
1. You are incorrect about the stance one. People (who are buying their vehicles for a purpose and not showoff) are searching for vehicles which are light and small but yet have good amount of usable space.. The Thar is wider than an Endeavor and is bigger than Jimny in every dimension hence making it much heavier which i s a disadvantage in Offloading. And yet its second row is unusable, it doesn't have a boot space too.
2. Thar RWD? Why not buy a Compact SUV like Nexon instead or Bolero Neo? An offroad vehicle built on a rugged ladder on frame chassis with its own demerits compared to the Urban Compact SUVs interms of space, practicality, ride quality, handling etc, all sacrificed for Offroad and yet doesn't get the main offloading feature, 4x4. It's literally an embarrassing show off varient.
Great energy Nikhil!!!
Superb comparison
Thanks for the review.
With the 5 door thar scheduled for next year, lets see what chnges does Mahindra does to make it competitive to jimny, cause it needs it else Jimny is clear in comfort and features. Engine aside i feel Jimny has it all. Although the looks of thar are too good to resist.
Sir please make a comparison on jimmy vs gurkha with stock tyres off road test.
Superb review!
To me, Jimny offers originality, cute looks, and its design shows the DNA of Gypsy. Thar, on the other hand, while having a better engine, is a blatant design copy of Jeep Wrangler. A legal battle with Jeep in international court, that Mahindras lost and eventually faced a ban for export of Thar to most of the first world countries. To me, while the engine is important, originality and creativity come first. Mahindras, sorry, but you lack originality, so I am going with the Jimny. 😊
Both are awesome!!
Awaiting your update on annual maintenance cost comparison study which you released a few years ago
Really comprehensive review!! I've always been a fan of the Jimny over the Thar, the Jimny feels like a more practical and complete package for an off-roader and can be driven as a daily driver too. The design of the Thar does not appeal to me as much and I'm happy to see a rival from suzuki that feels just right for both off-road and on-road driving. 👌
This is the video we all wanted!
If maruti had offered the Short wheel base original, I would have been first in line. As it is, I'm continuing to enjoy my 2018 Gypsy.
Jimny is a reliable offroader and the quality is par excellence compared to Mahindra Thar. Thar is bumpy, has quality gitches, interiors aren’t up to the mark, above all its just a weekend call… Jimny can be used as a regular car of the house with weekend offroading.
Team Jimny the mountain goat!!💪💪
Crash test score ?
@@mr.emotionalartist3 stars in euro ncap. (3 door version)
Suzuki should have launched jimny in the three door version. The extended wheel base reduces it's off-road ability
Why? Theres no market for 3 Door vehicles in India on top of that with such Kei car like dimensions and the first Offroad ladder on frame product from Suzuki after decades of selling efficient hatchbacks? Too risky
@@amogus9440 We just say there is no market for 3 door cars. But people prefer them as a secondary car like a daily commuter in cities... That's how the Thar 3 door version still rules the market. Maybe you're right about Suzuki's safe game play to launch it in 5 doors. But if they had launched both 5 and 3 door versions, jimny would have been a deal breaker...
but the 5 door wheelbase makes it more practical
Not even 1% ppl do off roading
@@chintureddy9254 yes. That could be true. But this body on frame chassis SUVs are targeted more on that 1% crowd who live in hilly areas or bad road regions, others would prefer monocoque SUVs. 5 door jimny is still not practical for those 1% crowd. I still remember people, who live in hilly regions, modify their bolero truck for better commuting in their day to day life.
This is the best car comparison channel
Given the rainy climate conditions... The performance of the Jimny was rated with Air conditioner on or off???
Very well presented review accurate in content, fluent and fluid in verbal presentation and with palpable control over the use of English language. Good work!
Did you test roof leaks?
Guys I just love your comparison videos
TY soooo much for the like
What a great review!
Team jimny✋🏽
More practicality, better power to weight ratio, Better suspension and can open fuel tank from inside.
Go little rockstar 💫
Power to weight ratio is same for cars (0.087 PS / KG )
Also jimny with lower ground clearance and articulation, can bottom out more than that,
But for my use case, jimny makes more sense as I don't do hardcore off roading,
I can be sure that jimny won't get stuck and can be used on a day to day basis,
So it makes much more sense to spend 2 lakh less and buy jimny.
At least it doesn't challenge my intelligence by offering rear parking camera as an accessory.
@@christophercolumbusmlg9354 Jimny - 103/1195 = 0.086
Thar - 130/1750 = 0.074
How come they've same p/w ratio?
@@4x4TV101 why are you comparing Petrol jimny with Diesel Thar, petrol Thar has 150 hp
@@christophercolumbusmlg9354 I was comparing top models, alpha AT and LX AT diesel
Fantastic review bro and one request .. can you get one done with a jeep automatic 4*4 in comparison ... though the cost would not justify...
Nice and detailed comparison.
Thar petrol spec is similar to my Skoda Yeti 1.8TSI (I am in the UAE) with it's engine , 6 speed transmission and manual shift. I imagine the same nimble driving with Thar. At a traffic light I reach the next one ahead of most other cars😊.
How do these two compare with Yeti?
Its impressive that these two cars did it all in basically on heavily road-biased tires.
Quite logical. Thumbsup!
Both are love ❤
will there be a LHD version of the Jimny 5door?
It's just in India jimny vs thar but jimny already compared to gwagen, wrangler, toyota in foreign and won most of it 😂😂
Indians with thar 🤣🤣
both of them are very good but which one is better it's going to be tough 😊💖💪
Jimny is best because company consider about off road.. When the word off road show the meaning it mean small road and moody and congestion area. And sometimes if the jimny get stock you can oush it by only two or single people not like thar is too big and heavy material but useless things.. Jimny is best quality for outside the body is Very good built quality...
If you really want to compare, put same tyres on both vehicles. Tyres are very important aspect, especially in rainy conditions. Change of tyres can change the performance upside down! With different tyres, sorry but this comparo makes very less sense.
@17:58 Is Thar Diesel really a 4 cylinder engine, unlike bolero/ TUV which had 3 cylinder engine ?
Maruti tried to make an all rounder while Thar targeted a very specific audiance and I think there maruti miscalculated. As you say in the end, Jimny will do well as the sole car of your household. But is there anyone who buys these kind of cars if they already dont own any car?
Liked the review
Both are very good 👍🔥
This is why I love the Jimny. It's very capable even without any mods. I have a 2015 3 door Jimny and have driven most of the big 4x4 tracks in Australia. Simpson Desert, Cape York, Canning Route etc. I left it completely stock running the cheapest highway terrains I could find. Never had a puncture or struggled offroad.
its best comparison
Please compare off-road capability of Force Gurkha with jimny and thar 🙏
You have a verdict by driving a big pothole... Offroading is much more than that... Boy I envy your confidence...
Finally wait come to an end.
Jimny would have been a clear and undisputed winner of this shoot out had it been fitted with a more powerful engine.
What about the faulty buttons for the AC blower,,which ever button u press air leaks through the vent on the dash and foggs the glass!!! Even present on brand new thars being delivered 😮😮
Both SUV's are legend in the segment 🚙
The ending scene says it all. .
🙏👍Great .Booked jimny but not able to decide to GO for it or NOT.BUT after your comparison/details. Now sure going for jimny.Thanks
First Like and Comment 😊
Jimney looks like big brother of spresso😂
I wish Mahindra delayed Thar launch after resolving the busy ride & Maruti launched this variant atleast a decade ago. Hoping to see Maruti addressing these gaps in the refreshed Jimny. Its sad to see Tata out of the race….
Lol, This gen model jimny was launched just 4 years ago.
@@RnR1001 yep 3Door & I own one
I haven't understood why Tata hasn't created a real hardcore offroader as a successor to the old Safari (perhaps under a "Sumo" badge?). After all, they can count on the design expertise of JLR to create one.
@@vineethg6259 what to say! There were discussions around this topic after Pratap Bose moved out. They have Yodha/Xenon platform, JLR platform. We need only 3 vehicles from them, a regular pickup for commercial purpose, a premium lifestyle pickup (4*2, 4*4, with automatic transmissions) and a proper luxurious 7 seater SUV.
Complete review guys...
The Jimmy needs wider tires. It’ll look even better then and it’s off road ability will be greatly improved. I guess Maruti sticks on these puny tires to keep the cost down.
But..which will last longer, jimny or jeep wrangler?
Honestly I was considering jimny as my second car but I am disappointed with the price.
Thats what cars of this class cost these days and in India the price isnt bad, compare it to other markets that just have the 3 door and its night and day
Same here, I was expecting it at 12L max for the base
Dont tell me you were expecting a Well tested Ladder on frame 4x4 with offroad mechanics yet well loaded packaging in the same price as a Swift.
Arey Jimny ko agar 1 lacs main bhi launch karey toh tumko fir bhi disappointed hi lagega.....
Samjhe yeh pricing ki galti nhi hai yeh tumahari dimagi santulan thora hil gya hai...
Crash test score ?
whats the music at 7.57??
Bruh there is more space for luggage in an old Maruti 800 than the Thar, a vehicle that is supposedly build for offroading and camping.
Is it possible to do any of the obstacle with the upcoming Honda Elevate since it has that big clearance.
Autocar India should bring all SUVs for offroad hoping for new video on offroad day with autocar
In a society driven by budget conscious customers ,what we reall need at the moment is a bolero size car with the engine and capability of a gypsy.Jimny is perfect for miniscule number of off-road enthusiasts but not for India.thats where Suzuki India got it all wrong.we need bigger bootspace,wider 3 seater backseat.and there is the perfect all rounder .Bolero easily demolished.
Awesome & Thanks :)
@ 11:37 jimny has no rear wiper which was said in the video but in the list there is a typing mistake that it has the rear wiper😅
SIMPLE NEEDS TO FLOURISH AMONG OUR PEEPS... to continue
Even though the Suzuki is a much better off roader than the Thar, it's unfair to say the 3-door Thar is more uncomfortable than the 5-door Jimny!
Give a comparison of Gymney vs Bolero abd Bolero Neo
Appreciation to the Camera man
so you cannt manage a 3door jimny?