As much as I loved HW1 and 2 back in the past, this one felt painful to play. I couldn't figure out if it's because I'm old now, I'm 58 years old now and it's over 20 years since HW2 but something about this one didn't feel right to me. Lot of the controls were not working, my commands to move the fleet around was being unresponsive. I felt the story was weak. Why do I get this feeling that a third party consulting group was involved? I absolutely do not recommend this game, I was very disappointed.
Sweet baby inc was involved, woke compagny, on top of that the guy who wrote the scenario for the 2 games in the 90's was fired mid development with half of the team it was obviously gonna be a failure
Aside from the story which tbh wasn't the worst thing ever the game is an absolute blast to play. The controls are actually quite intuitive, giving the players the option to use it as a first person camera with wasd controls or homeworld 2 controls. I literally learned them in like maybe 3 minutes?
@davidhong9112 I find that intriguing if the controls were literally not working. It's hard to believe. Perhaps you were having unintended unit behaviors? Most people don't understand grouping and formation movement behaviors. For example bombers in a sphere formation on aggressive will just hover around the ship they are attacking. While on passive in a different formation they will try to hide behind cover and make multiple passes.
The fact that there is a Captain, in game, giving orders, that isn't you, is a sign. The fact you have to fight him for the keyboard every five minutes is a red flag. They turned a sandbox into a theme park, and it just doesn't work here.
Not to be "that guy" but this is something pretty much all homeworld games do, they rip the camera to show you "whats important" in each mission. and the best part of it? its the same guy, "Intel" is the dude who rips ur camera away every homeworld mission. I actually don't think there is a single mission in HW1 that doesn't rip your camera away from the player at some point. I know that in the second mission of HW1 there are at least 4 cutscenes and 2 moments of in-game camera ripping throughout that mission. The difference is that homeworld 3 appears to be significantly more handholdy than any other homeworld to date in the (not even kidding) first three missions of the game. After mission 4 the handholding is reduced significantly as the game starts to open up, I believe only 1 cutscene is in that mission.
@@MrCoolguy425 - I have played them all. It goes deeper. In this game you have someone else directing your moves. Go here do this, Then here do this. They really do want you on a rail. In the other games they used the story to set up the lore. In this game they use it to move you from point to point. I'm telling you. It annoys the frak out of me. It's not the same. Deserts was like this, but in the end they gave you tool and objectives and let you loose. This game doesn't. Why is that guy constantly telling me to do, what is clearly visible in the objectives at the top of the screen? It's dumb! I'm not opposed to this play style. It just doesn't work here.
@@TheFreemanRetort To anyone reading this there are slight spoilers to the HW3 campaign, while Its not very good, you have henceforth been warned. Ima be honest, i mainly tuned anything out of intel (i found him very annoying by mission 3) when I was playing the game except what was specifically stated in the top left objective markers. So its entirely possible that its more on rails than I recall during my playthrough. Though I do note a few missions in HW1 that were quite infuriating based on how limited they were, mainly the research base, and the asteroid mission. Funnily enough I actually preferred HW3s asteroid mission to HW1s because at least in HW3 it gave you some choices in how to go through the mission, and gave you other objectives namely to capture the carriers while navigating the asteroids which was much more entertaining than sitting there for 10 minutes while rocks just tried to hit you.
@@all41tja "Much more" is extremely subjective wording and I disagree largely on that. It may be more, or in different ways, but overall I found them similar. I have gone through and counted both cutscenes and ripaways (Cutscenes being whenever out of game footage is used, or if the camera is artificially focused on an ingame unit without any UI elements) and (Ripaways being whenever the camera is used to show objectives. For example when intel runs you through objectives in sensor view) HW1 MIS 1: 2 cutscenes, 3 ripaways HW1 Mis 2: 2 cutscenes, 5 ripaways HW1 Mis 3: 2 cutscenes 1 ripaway HW3 mis 1: 3 cutscenes 1 rip away HW3 Mis 2: 4 cutscenes 1 ripaway HW3 Mis 3: 6 cutscenes, 3 ripaways Homeworld 3 mission 3 is by far the clearest example of this, and overall uses many more cutscenes throughout the campaign as compared to HW1, but uses much less ripaways on average. In all honesty, I prefer HW1s way of doing exposition and the "ripaway" method as it still allows you to have situational awareness during the objective speech. Also HW1s voice acting, cutscenes, and story are leagues better than HW3 which played a major factor in my personal "annoyance" with the game early on. For clarity, I did not actually go through and play the missions at this time, I used no-commentary playthroughs of each mission played at 2x speed. Additionally the remastered edition of HW1 was used rather than the OG.
as a die hard homeworld fan, I am ashamed that I gave money to this insult to all homeworld fans. game play is trash, story is hot garbage, And the compony is utterly dishonest. I agree Do Not Buy This.
It is like they are making Homeworld 3 into a live service game, offer a really basic short campaign and then pad it out with online stuff via the war game mechanic and release paid dlc for a year. This is the problem when people who do not care about the game get involved, they ruin the game's name for a money and it dies never be touched again. It is also made for a really an era where pcs were not that powerful.
This game is a cash grab!!! They are banking on the lineage of the franchise selling the game. Way back when, they asked for funding from the fans when the game was already funded. The reviews all seem to say its severely lacking. It's like they made a homeworld game with no soul, yes a very shiny homeworld skin but it is hollow. Add to that the pricing and the dlc aimed at online only tells me they just want to milk people based solely on the name homeworld.
They even had the audacity to add Denuvo on it and the Blizzards development plan style with 90euro 2 days early access and updated ever 2 months. After 5 days no one plays the game anymore, there are 290viewers on twitch, nobody is interested in it, not even super fans. I played the original in 1999 and I'm really disappointed.
I remember to this day, the way Gardens of Kadesh paced the story and immersed you, or the way Balcora Gate raised the tension with blackholes in the distance, igniting the fabric of space & time… didn’t really get captured in this game. I haven’t played it yet, but I have yet to see people picking out memorable moments in HW3.
For me the battle in front of Sayukk for the rigth to use the ship, mi fleet, with the first time, the first battleship i built and several automatons that endure, the destroyer that i make it survive arrive to Highara Sayukk has arrive
The Gardens of Kadesh kind of frustrated me when I played it as a teen (I couldn't quite figure out the mechanics at the time) but I absolutely loved the atmosphere. Like a haunted house.
The campaign was dogwater. I mean gameplay and setpieces were ok but what the actual fuck was the story. Honestly tho wargames are kinda fun. Massively dissapointed by the other faction in the base game tho, so much love was put into fleet chatter for hiigara but the incarnate get NOTHING most of the time not even basic unit voicelines. Aspects of this game somehow feel rushed and that makes no sense considering how long it was in the oven. I'd really like to know how much gearbox leadership fucked up the original vision for this game because i have a feeling it was ALLOT.
Sweet baby inc was involved, woke compagny, on top of that the guy who wrote the scenario for the 2 games in the 90's was fired mid development with half of the team it was obviously gonna be a failure
You know it's bad when Homeworld *Mobile* has an arguably better story (albeit with a disjointed way of storytelling due to it being a MMO style mobile game, but the story flow and plot points in my opinion is far superior)
Bought it too, and yeah...unfortunately your spot on. I am hopefully that the modding community will have a field day with the wargames aspect of this.
This is becoming more and more common with games. Big price tag, little content. I was hoping for more than a few hours for my $$$$ Maybe I will come back around after everything is bundled at a cheaper price. Greedflation at its best!!!
I think to remember that in the older games, you could press the escape button and the cinematic would relinquish control back to the player letting you continue while the events of the cinematic carried on with a text overhead instead.
I must confess I watched "game movie" and... I didn't like story at all. It revolves too much around personal feelings of characters rather than story itself. MC is just crybaby. A bunch of loose ends substories. Cuts are obviously seen here and there. And ending is disappointing, like "oh, we have no more screen time and need to finish things quickly with happy ending, killing some important chars in progress without good explanation".
I keep hearing reviewers so the gameplay isn't bad, it's fun. But it's just not. For anyone used to the originals the gameplay in Hw3 changes and dumbs done so much that the strategy and tactics have been completely removed and all the game play now is spam everything send to attack, repeat until you win. The maps are so small you basically start right on top of the enemy, including in the campaign. The new cover system is cool in theory, but there is 0 point to using it because it requires micro control of your ships, but you don't have time to do that because the second you try your mothership is under attack because the ai always knows where it is (again because the map is so tiny 3 probes are all you need to have sensor over the entire map). The ships ttk is ridiculously fast. Even a battlecruiser the best ship in the game can get blasted to shreds by a bomber squadron. They just wasn't a thing in Hw2. There is no more subsystems or subsystem targeting. The unit cap is really small, probably because the tiny maps. The fighters don't even bother to dodge shots anymore. Hw3 added actual projectiles so they need to actually hit to deal damage unlike Hw2, which makes it even worse that fighters don't attempt evasion at all
yeah i have learned my lesson by now, never preorder and always wait for others to buy and review to see if i want to buy it, the new games that are coming out from big studios are very often not worth the money they want, so i wait and read and then wait for a sale of 50% off or more simply so i dont feel cheated
I don't buy games as soon as they come out, I wait a few weeks or a month before buying. The only time I didn't wait was with BG3 early access so I could give feedback on bugs and combat fixes.
I bought and spend 3.5 hours asking for a refund from steam and being denied as it is over 2 hours. However 40% was indeed watching dumb cutscenes and changing all the hotkeys. Ships don't seem to listen to commands and spend too much time micromanaging them and adding newly built Ships to control groups.
The game sucks, not only does it diverges from the original story so much to the point The Hiigarans freaking abandoned Sajuuk with no reason at all because of "Unfamtomable Progenitors Technology" which is stupid reason btw, even AI-Generated Stories had better reasoning than this. What's stopping the Hiigarans from reversing engineering Progenitors tech? When they even replicated the 3 Original Cores, and they even replicated the Progenitor Movers halfway through the game in Homeworld 2. I was so disappointed when I saw the Khar Kushan used crude conventional ballistic weapons rather than Progenitor level energy weapons, I mean The Bentusi gave them knowledge of how to operate Proginators tech so it's easy to say before they disappeared The Bentusi probably gave them their Tech for the Hiigarans to inherited their will. Let's talk about the overpricing game and stupid promises with too many useless megastructures that became reliability than an opportunity, first off the game itself happened in open space all the time and with a stupid overabundance of resources that spam building small and large ships to protect the motherships unlike the previous 2 games where the resources are limited and ships are expensive to build. Why bother hiding in the structures when the enemy can't even get close to our mothership, if they did they ended up blowing seconds later. where was the hide-and-seek guerilla warfare they promised? The story is too short as it is stupid and seems unrelated to the previous game. Then there's the cliche where Karan and the Incarnate Queen Far Jump into the unknown with the Progenitors Gateship using the Original Cores, I mean the heck too many Hiigarans, Vagyr, and even some Bentusi died just to safeguard or get the original cores just to reunite them with the Sajuuk then, only for Homeworld 3 to removed them and put into an inferior Mothership. Why not build more Synthetic Cores if they already had the capability and replicate the original cores in the first place. I mean whoever wrote the storyline in Homeworld 3 has probably been an idea generated in CHATGPT. Then let's not forget how easy and overabundance is the resources in the game are that u can just spam build ur fleet without having to worry about running out of resources to build. To be honest I felt Homeworld 3 is just a Homeworld spin-off with better quality and better graphics, for short a Homeworld Remastered/Remake rather than a sequel because it is a downgrade to the previous 2 games both Storywise, Lorewise, and Gameplaywise.
Not just is the gameplay bad, The story and characters looks like it is infused with the DEI nonsense that is so popular. Manly female characters in lead roles, story about strong woman finding out shes the savior of her people and even more awesome than she knew, a character model with masculine features to ensure the dreaded male gaze is not cast her way... all of the ingredients are there. No wonder the story sucked so much.
You didnt even mention how revolting the CGI animation cut scenes are and how terrible the story telling is. It's nothing like the previous games style. Also they made the main character's face look really funky and goofy for no reason.
Well folks I have been playing HW from the beginning and it is my all time favorite. That game took me in deep submersion and I had control and I could take my time and play. The whole game was amazing and the deep space was like really being out there, and the music and the dramatic scenes. HW was ahead of the curve when it came out, I have played 1 and 2 so many times that I still get enjoyment of it. I really was excited on HW3 coming out because I just knew they were going to make it just like of old but better , boy was I wrong, at no time did I get immersed in this , if you want to call it a game, even the animation was not up to par. I had no control over nothing, but to listen to two idiots telling me what to do. You could have left her story out and let me run my ship and follow orders without all the cinematographic, and interruptions. I have only played one level and it is so boring, and im so tired of listening to the guy tell me what and where to go and when to do it. there is no time for exploring or getting more resources. This game has no real content to it. I heard that they let go most of the original folks that were there from the beginning that started HW, dont know if that is true , but I do know that this is not HW of old , its just another space shooting game. I was a fool and payed 60 bucks for a game not worth twenty if that. You folks that put this junk out apparently never really played HW form old, and that's because you were not old enough and still wearing diapers. HW is a masterpiece and was ahead of its time and if you think this HW3 even comes close to the original HW, then you better go back and hire the original folks because this is not it. The creative team here did not continue the story just created another one that makes no since. It was a good story for them searching for a new homeland and fighting for survival in space. I have ranted enough , but i do have a question? Where does the player fit in, meaning if the girl tells the captain what to do , where do i fit in this as a player to make my own decisions. I should be the captain and I follow orders according to what I have to face with and knowledge of and data and not follow stupid orders that make no since. Anyway when the real HW comes out let me know, because this one is not even close. RobertC
The funny is i wrote a email to blackbird when the demo first came and i implored them to pull the game and REDO the whole thing because its just a mess.. i guess they know better.. I mean i said some very strong words to them about it but oh well.. I played the story and thats it.. i dont even bother with the skirmish because the gameplay is that bad.. its spam fest.. nothing more.. maps are tiny.. you have NO hyperspace btw
thats oddly not a bug. The units move to their maximum range to engage targets, I find it incredibly frustrating tbh but its clearly a part of the pathfinding.
You should stay away for many reasons My Buddy was Permanently banned on the HW3 Forums on Steam, just for asking if Sweet Baby Inc. was involved. Gearbox CM Noelle Banned him and locked the thread calling it a Racist and Discriminatory Dog whistle, that somehow was against the rules... TF?
Because an awful lot of the people who care about sweet baby whatever are dog whistling alt right racists. And if you let alt right trolls into your forum they and their bots tend to take over.
@@harrietr.5073 it is related, Sweet baby changed their policy and now they operate hidden their name appear nowhere it will be increasingly difficult to detect them
it's gone onto the 'sweet bay inc detected' web-page. Now we know why the story is so bad. I have all of the other Homeworld games but I don't think I'll be buying this.
There's nothing more sad than seeing a game being made, being hyped for it and then the actual product disappoints you. You try to force yourself to play, "Maybe I'll like it after a little bit..." but nah, you have to confess it just doesn't do it for you.
more of the same mate, the prices for games are always getting more expensive an the quality of game we get is getting well shit an it doesnt stop there i remember when you could beta a game for free now a days you need to buy into the game fully support the devs before thats even an option. the gaming industry has been circling the plug hole for some time an i hope it improves wating for falling frontiers an i hope that scratches my RTS itch
Agreed! Don't buy! Unfortunately I spent 6 hours before I realized i couldn't at least make my own proper custom hotkeys, the bone-headedness is hard-coded... The game is shit and I can't even get a refund.
i must admit i was excited when this was due for release, as i had played the the first 2 games , and enjoyed them, when the first one came out the RTS genre was in full swing, with the Command and conquer series, another was Dark Reign, KKND , and even the epic Total annihilation series especially the original, so sad to see this is not up to scratch shame, i have just bought today the Ghost of tsushima enjoying that on the pc :}
The in mision cutscenes existed in Homeworld Cataclism and Homeworld 2. I do not recal the 1st game. It would point to somewhhere to send a ship / scout.. but your ships are almos t ther or aloready ther, and you loose control again 10 sec later to show you what that ship doscovered. I honestly did not recall it from the old games, but it can be annoying
This just confirms my gut feeling I had about this game when I first saw it. Honestly I think that the story ended with HW2 and it really ought to have stayed that way, at least for the S'jet clan. I would've loved if they had made this game all about Kiith Soomtaw instead. We needed the Kuun-Lan back.
Yes. Another case of “make her a girl boss! Make her look generically ethnic!! And make her probably GAY!!!! Oh. And make the BBEG a gay girl boss with a god-complex!!”
Yup, nothing like the old games hw1,2. Hate the story so far, looks like it was written by chicks for chicks, not for me though. I liked the grand stories of the old games, that they didn't focus on specific characters.
I disagree. The gameplay is shit also, becaue the strategy is based on spamming units, instead of using intelligent tactics. This is the core element of an RTS. Of course I didn't buy it and I will never will. But I watched streams. I will never install the garbage Denuvo on my computer. The game is horrible, bad plot, idiotic characters with bad animations, woke Story. It's a fail on every level. Big disappointment.
Man, I get what you’re saying, we all waited soooooo long, I’ve been a fan of the series since the first HW, its sequel and spin offs. I just don’t understand how they could drop the ball on the main story campaign. The only real chance to salvage here would be to improve the game for its coop / multiplayer modes
It's an embarrassment, and the Wargames they're banking on essentially has zero interest invested into it from the entire player base, except for elements of the community on Reddit.
I've been literally waiting for this game for twenty years, since Homeworld 2 was released in 2003. What i loved about Homeworld 2 is the tactical depth the game had. It didn't bother me that it had just 15 missions, but i loved it because of the tactical depth. It had a massive multiplayer fun factor. That is gone with Homeworld 3. What gave the game a tactical richness was the subsystem mechanic. For instance, you were able to destroy a BC main batteries and drive or DDs drive with strikecraft and escape with a faster CC or even take them on by out-manoeuvring them with frigates and corvettes. They have failed to keep the only thing Homeworld 2 exceeded in term of RTS. Honestly, im really disappointed. It feels like Homeworld 3 is just a graphically more contemporary polished money grab to me.
I played Homeworld 1, Homeworld Cataclysm, Homeworld 2 in the 2000s. And also, I have been modding for Homeworld 2 for more than 15 years and have dismantled this game into atoms. I want to say that Homeworld 3 simply killed and broke all the all achievements of Homeworld 2, that were made 21 years ago! Homeworld 3 is piece of crap wrapped in a pretty wrapper in the hope that it will be bought. I agree with the author of the video. This game should not be purchased! This game is a shame for GearBox and BBI...
This game as a cash grab. I feel cheated for buying it and the fact that there will be no more single player campaign content is infuriating. And then the won't let us truly mod it. I think the modding lock down is due to them not wanting modders to create new content from other Sci-Fi IP's and because developers want to charge tons of $$$ for their own crappy content. This is such a disappointment, and is the reason why the Homeworld Remastered Collection still has more players.
Gaming is dead. Actually Cyberpunk, which was another flop, got fixed after 3 years and added an amazing expansion witch redeemed CDPR. The only recommendation I have nowadays. And the fail of Cyberpunk was due to headlines and hardware limitations. They removed from the old gen consoles in the end.
To be honest I was never going to get this game because I would never come to Xbox series x kind of like sanctuary shattered Sun but honestly I'm glad you gave me the reason I need to not feel so left out about not getting this game if it wasn't for your advice I feel like I'm being left out or missing something big so thank you for your advice it does help me a lot
@@Born2Game in truth I will admit I suppose maybe something like this on Xbox series x would be fun but sadly I'm afraid that the graphics card for the Xbox series x and probably some other devices in it may not be powerful enough to handle a game like this hex I don't even think it'd be enough for sanctuary shattered son. 😭 But at least I do know there is going to be a battle for Middle Earth Lord of the rings game coming to Xbox that's one strategy game that I am looking forward to and hey we also have bannerlord so it's not that bad at all. 😁
Now compare this to the 50€ you spend for BG3 and the 200h of immersion, story telling and great fights. It's a shame to see great potential being wasted away like it was nothing
I loved the Homeworld 1 and 2. Finished both the games and I was really looking forward to this one... But after watching this video I will wait for couple of months to see if anything will change before deciding to buy it!
I got it when it came out and got the season pass but thankfully held off on playing it, then i saw these reviews about this game. I refunded it and I'll wait a year or two and if they manage to improve this game THEN I'll consider getting it on a steam sale.
So true i was watching arch playing it and at 4 hours, i was so bored, is move cutscenes, move more cutscenes, the most impressive tactic or more usefull, grab your mother ship, put guard and move eveirthing, your figthers are so useless they die so fast, built on top and forget, also the maps are so small, and a corridor, with ceiling, a ceiling in an open space game, not to mention, the story. Ok HUGHE SPOILER WARNING, SPOILER WARNING, the bad woman, female, yes female, man jaw and gay, genocide entire planets kill billions, but she is ascended because female, Karen sacrifice to ascend herself and the other woman, so the bad woman kill billions and ascend. Homeworld is not about characters is about the Kushans, about the Higharans, not a person, missions are short, and one dude in the chat of arch remember dont know, he said open the data files and one third of the game is cutscenes
@Born2Game Kudos for making this video because I can't imagine it was fun. Like you, I've been waiting for this a long time, and I've been burned before by sequels poorly made. Just drives me crazy how more and more things that seem like obvious choices are constantly being punted on, and regression becomes the new expectation.
Soon as I saw the black captain in the trailer I knew this was going to be modern day slop that wouldnt live up to the old games. Because wokeness goes beyond political propaganda, the rest of the product is almost always bad in every other way. Atleast they had the decency to remaster 1&2.
I agree. Each mission felt short, the story was bad, and were is my railgun frigate? It felt like something big was missing in the story game play. At the end it didn't feel good (my disappointment is immeasurable meme).
I should point out that my jaw dropped when I saw how bad the squadrom movement is. Homeworld 1 had much better movement. This squadrom movement and engagement makes no sense at all. It feels stiff and there seems to be no real unit independence like it was in previous games. I remember watching fighters fights in old homeworld games since they were so interesting. Maneuvers of experienced pilots were so cool to watch and cooperation in squadrons was really engaging. Here what i see is them just flying in specific formation and doing absolutely bonkers rotations etc. Look at 3:42 the most left squadron turn. Absolute trash. That is now how ships fly in the space .. but its exactly how you turn a square in space.. so those squadrons are just flying squares with animations. Looking at this I would say this game is indie game levels right now. Based on length and gameplay maybe 10 USD worth ?
Thanks for the heads up. I've been glancing at this title. Looking to buy a game for my birthday coming up. I went ahead and got ghost of tsushima. Glad i did plays awesome on a Legion Go. Cheers 🍻
I went through the entire campaign, the interruptions become so annoying you want to let the bad one win. It took..maybe 9 hours. I doubt i buy the DLC, def not at full price.
To me the biggest disappointment is, unlike all previous titles, the lack of MacOS support. Base on the video, graphics and scene is epic. remind me of Eve online. However, as a story mode player, the lack luster campaign would be a big disappointment. And base on what it is offering, the price seems really steep comparing with BG3.
HW3 is now officially one of the worst examples of railroading in RTS. F#%king shame. It's crazy that Highfleet looks like a next Homeworld game *more than the actual third part...*
Wanted to buy this game, but watched few vids first. One of the streamers stated that he never played franchise before, and he loved it, however for me it was like: "hey, these missions look kind of similar to me". I mean game looks different than 2 or 1, but at the end of the day it is exactly the same but with better visuals. Decided to skip it and wait few years, until all the content is published and then I will buy it on sale ;-P. But honestly, H1 and H2 had problems with balance between gameplay and forced-actions, but then game itself was just fresh. Now I think it is not.
Theres definitely a balance issue with the campaign. They made medium way way too easy. I would recommend Hard mode to put it back to a normal Homeworld difficulty experience. I do wish they would let us rebuild and mine after the mission as per old HW titles. its not bad, but agree, some of the cutscenes are annoying, but to be fair - this was in homeworld 1 also, when you fleet is getting chewed while they talk your ear off.
I still play Homeworld 1 online.. Every sequel since HW 1999 (Except Cataclysm) was worse and worse, I didn't even hope to get a good Homeworld 3 game.
This is my opinion... Just buy the game on G2A for $35. I did that and it was the $90 bundle. This game is worth it for the $35-39, but not worth $59. This game is also clearly geared towards online play. Season pass. I don't understand why anyone had expectations for a campaign when you saw season pass and the roguelike game mode. The video is correct in this way. The base game price is terrible because there simply is no content to justify it. If you do like I did, however, and spend less than $40 you can kind of get value out of it. I did say "kind of get value" because you're only going to get that from the online play and the mods (for online or roguelike).
Kind of funny, the $90 version of the game on g2a has went from $35 to $45 within the last hour when they had I think exactly 87 copies when I bought for $35. 87 copies have already sold and we're at the $45 tier with right now as I type 517 copies. BTW, the base game version on g2a is equivalent to the $90 steam version.
One thing I've noticed with a lot of video reviewers is that you guys aren't actually playing the full game through. That's fine, you have your opinions regardless. But I do think you should be playing a full campaign before making a call on quality. TH-cam really has become an echo chamber for video game reviewers.
The gameplay is not good at all. Units prioritize saying in formation over following orders or attacking. Your units are actually more effective and responsive if you turn off formations. Something that quickly becomes annoying as you'll find the game automatically puts units in formation without any input from you. Controls are absolutely terrible. Things outside your drag select constantly get added into your selection. You are forced to use their new first person camera instead of the classic free orbit camera when not focused on a unit and it makes navigating the battlefield annoying. If you have mixed units in a group, only the lead unit's action appears on the action bar. Retire and scuttle are in a hidden menu, *RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER,* and there is no confirmation for scuttles. Later on in the campaign, you need to get rid of excess units to be able to build the new units and the game never tells you how to do it. Unit AI is atrocious. If there wasn't a pause button, the campaign would be nearly unplayable on anything but story difficulty as you have to babysit your units constantly.
For some reason, all the old Relic games get worse and worse as they make new ones. Dawn of War and Homeworld are some of my all time favorite games. But, Dawn of War 3 was a disaster and genuine made me angry at how poorly the series had been treated. It was such a dumpster fire that none of the planned DLC came out for it. This sounds like it's going down the same road.
That's why they're shutting down the Mobile Game. Cause they made Homeworld 3 a disaster and the mobile game is so much better. GearBox is a huge let down.
In the final 1 minute 32 seconds of this video it's uncut footage from the beginning of mission 3 in which I was shown 4 cutscenes
Apparently the devs haven't heard about the scale of total Warhammer 1-3
okay and?
@@FUnzzies1 lol
Born2game I just saw your vid
I brought 3 of them what should I do?
As much as I loved HW1 and 2 back in the past, this one felt painful to play. I couldn't figure out if it's because I'm old now, I'm 58 years old now and it's over 20 years since HW2 but something about this one didn't feel right to me. Lot of the controls were not working, my commands to move the fleet around was being unresponsive. I felt the story was weak. Why do I get this feeling that a third party consulting group was involved? I absolutely do not recommend this game, I was very disappointed.
Sweet baby inc was involved, woke compagny, on top of that the guy who wrote the scenario for the 2 games in the 90's was fired mid development with half of the team it was obviously gonna be a failure
Plot: 3 women disagree and in the end they shake hands. Best story ever 😂🤦♂️
Aside from the story which tbh wasn't the worst thing ever the game is an absolute blast to play. The controls are actually quite intuitive, giving the players the option to use it as a first person camera with wasd controls or homeworld 2 controls. I literally learned them in like maybe 3 minutes?
@@Silencer0151 I didn't say the controls were difficult, on occasion it was faulty.
@davidhong9112 I find that intriguing if the controls were literally not working. It's hard to believe. Perhaps you were having unintended unit behaviors? Most people don't understand grouping and formation movement behaviors. For example bombers in a sphere formation on aggressive will just hover around the ship they are attacking. While on passive in a different formation they will try to hide behind cover and make multiple passes.
The fact that there is a Captain, in game, giving orders, that isn't you, is a sign. The fact you have to fight him for the keyboard every five minutes is a red flag. They turned a sandbox into a theme park, and it just doesn't work here.
Not to be "that guy" but this is something pretty much all homeworld games do, they rip the camera to show you "whats important" in each mission. and the best part of it? its the same guy, "Intel" is the dude who rips ur camera away every homeworld mission.
I actually don't think there is a single mission in HW1 that doesn't rip your camera away from the player at some point. I know that in the second mission of HW1 there are at least 4 cutscenes and 2 moments of in-game camera ripping throughout that mission.
The difference is that homeworld 3 appears to be significantly more handholdy than any other homeworld to date in the (not even kidding) first three missions of the game. After mission 4 the handholding is reduced significantly as the game starts to open up, I believe only 1 cutscene is in that mission.
@@MrCoolguy425 this time they do it all the time, much more than in the past.
@@MrCoolguy425 - I have played them all. It goes deeper. In this game you have someone else directing your moves. Go here do this, Then here do this. They really do want you on a rail. In the other games they used the story to set up the lore. In this game they use it to move you from point to point. I'm telling you. It annoys the frak out of me. It's not the same. Deserts was like this, but in the end they gave you tool and objectives and let you loose. This game doesn't. Why is that guy constantly telling me to do, what is clearly visible in the objectives at the top of the screen? It's dumb! I'm not opposed to this play style. It just doesn't work here.
@@TheFreemanRetort To anyone reading this there are slight spoilers to the HW3 campaign, while Its not very good, you have henceforth been warned.
Ima be honest, i mainly tuned anything out of intel (i found him very annoying by mission 3) when I was playing the game except what was specifically stated in the top left objective markers. So its entirely possible that its more on rails than I recall during my playthrough. Though I do note a few missions in HW1 that were quite infuriating based on how limited they were, mainly the research base, and the asteroid mission. Funnily enough I actually preferred HW3s asteroid mission to HW1s because at least in HW3 it gave you some choices in how to go through the mission, and gave you other objectives namely to capture the carriers while navigating the asteroids which was much more entertaining than sitting there for 10 minutes while rocks just tried to hit you.
@@all41tja "Much more" is extremely subjective wording and I disagree largely on that. It may be more, or in different ways, but overall I found them similar. I have gone through and counted both cutscenes and ripaways (Cutscenes being whenever out of game footage is used, or if the camera is artificially focused on an ingame unit without any UI elements) and (Ripaways being whenever the camera is used to show objectives. For example when intel runs you through objectives in sensor view)
HW1 MIS 1: 2 cutscenes, 3 ripaways
HW1 Mis 2: 2 cutscenes, 5 ripaways
HW1 Mis 3: 2 cutscenes 1 ripaway
HW3 mis 1: 3 cutscenes 1 rip away
HW3 Mis 2: 4 cutscenes 1 ripaway
HW3 Mis 3: 6 cutscenes, 3 ripaways
Homeworld 3 mission 3 is by far the clearest example of this, and overall uses many more cutscenes throughout the campaign as compared to HW1, but uses much less ripaways on average.
In all honesty, I prefer HW1s way of doing exposition and the "ripaway" method as it still allows you to have situational awareness during the objective speech. Also HW1s voice acting, cutscenes, and story are leagues better than HW3 which played a major factor in my personal "annoyance" with the game early on.
For clarity, I did not actually go through and play the missions at this time, I used no-commentary playthroughs of each mission played at 2x speed. Additionally the remastered edition of HW1 was used rather than the OG.
as a die hard homeworld fan, I am ashamed that I gave money to this insult to all homeworld fans. game play is trash, story is hot garbage, And the compony is utterly dishonest. I agree Do Not Buy This.
It is like they are making Homeworld 3 into a live service game, offer a really basic short campaign and then pad it out with online stuff via the war game mechanic and release paid dlc for a year. This is the problem when people who do not care about the game get involved, they ruin the game's name for a money and it dies never be touched again. It is also made for a really an era where pcs were not that powerful.
This game is a cash grab!!! They are banking on the lineage of the franchise selling the game. Way back when, they asked for funding from the fans when the game was already funded. The reviews all seem to say its severely lacking. It's like they made a homeworld game with no soul, yes a very shiny homeworld skin but it is hollow. Add to that the pricing and the dlc aimed at online only tells me they just want to milk people based solely on the name homeworld.
They even had the audacity to add Denuvo on it and the Blizzards development plan style with 90euro 2 days early access and updated ever 2 months.
After 5 days no one plays the game anymore, there are 290viewers on twitch, nobody is interested in it, not even super fans.
I played the original in 1999 and I'm really disappointed.
Your not the only one to say stay away from this.
*You're
I remember to this day, the way Gardens of Kadesh paced the story and immersed you, or the way Balcora Gate raised the tension with blackholes in the distance, igniting the fabric of space & time… didn’t really get captured in this game. I haven’t played it yet, but I have yet to see people picking out memorable moments in HW3.
For me the battle in front of Sayukk for the rigth to use the ship, mi fleet, with the first time, the first battleship i built and several automatons that endure, the destroyer that i make it survive arrive to Highara Sayukk has arrive
The Gardens of Kadesh kind of frustrated me when I played it as a teen (I couldn't quite figure out the mechanics at the time) but I absolutely loved the atmosphere. Like a haunted house.
The campaign was dogwater. I mean gameplay and setpieces were ok but what the actual fuck was the story. Honestly tho wargames are kinda fun. Massively dissapointed by the other faction in the base game tho, so much love was put into fleet chatter for hiigara but the incarnate get NOTHING most of the time not even basic unit voicelines. Aspects of this game somehow feel rushed and that makes no sense considering how long it was in the oven. I'd really like to know how much gearbox leadership fucked up the original vision for this game because i have a feeling it was ALLOT.
Sweet baby inc was involved, woke compagny, on top of that the guy who wrote the scenario for the 2 games in the 90's was fired mid development with half of the team it was obviously gonna be a failure
You know it's bad when Homeworld *Mobile* has an arguably better story (albeit with a disjointed way of storytelling due to it being a MMO style mobile game, but the story flow and plot points in my opinion is far superior)
Bought it too, and yeah...unfortunately your spot on. I am hopefully that the modding community will have a field day with the wargames aspect of this.
Did I hear a 7 hours campaign?LMAO
9 hours for me, but much of it was spent hating it. The story is awful. Longest mission was the tutorial, as there is two of them...
He didn't even finished tha game so he was basing it off bad reviews. Jump on board.
@@unspoken7704 Why did you need to finish cr4p game to know it's cr4p?
Padded by intolerable cutscenes that make you want to avert attention from the screen with how terrible the writing is.
@@bdleo300 because you need to learn how to speak first, then you can criticize a game.
I heard they left the strategy out of RTS...
Finally, a critique video that is NOT sponsored by Gearbox or Black Bird Interactive!
This is becoming more and more common with games. Big price tag, little content.
I was hoping for more than a few hours for my $$$$
Maybe I will come back around after everything is bundled at a cheaper price.
Greedflation at its best!!!
Not only little content, but always similar content or want that all games be more a movie than a game, that has been happening for a while
I’m going to play the remastered collection instead. I also just started the VR version of the game which has been… interesting so far
Thank you. I only play single player so I have no interest in a short campaign. And I hate cut scenes that interrupt game play.
You’re welcome 👍
I think to remember that in the older games, you could press the escape button and the cinematic would relinquish control back to the player letting you continue while the events of the cinematic carried on with a text overhead instead.
Looks like it suffers from the Dawn of War 3 syndrome.
I must confess I watched "game movie" and... I didn't like story at all. It revolves too much around personal feelings of characters rather than story itself. MC is just crybaby. A bunch of loose ends substories. Cuts are obviously seen here and there. And ending is disappointing, like "oh, we have no more screen time and need to finish things quickly with happy ending, killing some important chars in progress without good explanation".
Reminds me of red alert 3 where they forced you to lay co-op with an AI player
Yes hate it when a game's cut scene is to the point you're playing an interactive movie.
welcome to the modern AAA games industry
I actually like that. I've always been fascinated with interactive movies
@@lEGOBOT2565 If that's your thing play Almost Human as I'm sure your actions here don't change up the cutscenes
I keep hearing reviewers so the gameplay isn't bad, it's fun. But it's just not. For anyone used to the originals the gameplay in Hw3 changes and dumbs done so much that the strategy and tactics have been completely removed and all the game play now is spam everything send to attack, repeat until you win.
The maps are so small you basically start right on top of the enemy, including in the campaign. The new cover system is cool in theory, but there is 0 point to using it because it requires micro control of your ships, but you don't have time to do that because the second you try your mothership is under attack because the ai always knows where it is (again because the map is so tiny 3 probes are all you need to have sensor over the entire map).
The ships ttk is ridiculously fast. Even a battlecruiser the best ship in the game can get blasted to shreds by a bomber squadron. They just wasn't a thing in Hw2. There is no more subsystems or subsystem targeting. The unit cap is really small, probably because the tiny maps.
The fighters don't even bother to dodge shots anymore. Hw3 added actual projectiles so they need to actually hit to deal damage unlike Hw2, which makes it even worse that fighters don't attempt evasion at all
yeah i have learned my lesson by now, never preorder and always wait for others to buy and review to see if i want to buy it, the new games that are coming out from big studios are very often not worth the money they want, so i wait and read and then wait for a sale of 50% off or more simply so i dont feel cheated
Yep - or they release in a buggy state
I don't buy games as soon as they come out, I wait a few weeks or a month before buying. The only time I didn't wait was with BG3 early access so I could give feedback on bugs and combat fixes.
I'm going to have to take up a different hobby at this rate since they keep killing so many good games.
I bought and spend 3.5 hours asking for a refund from steam and being denied as it is over 2 hours. However 40% was indeed watching dumb cutscenes and changing all the hotkeys. Ships don't seem to listen to commands and spend too much time micromanaging them and adding newly built Ships to control groups.
The game sucks, not only does it diverges from the original story so much to the point The Hiigarans freaking abandoned Sajuuk with no reason at all because of "Unfamtomable Progenitors Technology" which is stupid reason btw, even AI-Generated Stories had better reasoning than this.
What's stopping the Hiigarans from reversing engineering Progenitors tech? When they even replicated the 3 Original Cores, and they even replicated the Progenitor Movers halfway through the game in Homeworld 2.
I was so disappointed when I saw the Khar Kushan used crude conventional ballistic weapons rather than Progenitor level energy weapons, I mean The Bentusi gave them knowledge of how to operate Proginators tech so it's easy to say before they disappeared The Bentusi probably gave them their Tech for the Hiigarans to inherited their will.
Let's talk about the overpricing game and stupid promises with too many useless megastructures that became reliability than an opportunity, first off the game itself happened in open space all the time and with a stupid overabundance of resources that spam building small and large ships to protect the motherships unlike the previous 2 games where the resources are limited and ships are expensive to build. Why bother hiding in the structures when the enemy can't even get close to our mothership, if they did they ended up blowing seconds later. where was the hide-and-seek guerilla warfare they promised? The story is too short as it is stupid and seems unrelated to the previous game.
Then there's the cliche where Karan and the Incarnate Queen Far Jump into the unknown with the Progenitors Gateship using the Original Cores, I mean the heck too many Hiigarans, Vagyr, and even some Bentusi died just to safeguard or get the original cores just to reunite them with the Sajuuk then, only for Homeworld 3 to removed them and put into an inferior Mothership. Why not build more Synthetic Cores if they already had the capability and replicate the original cores in the first place. I mean whoever wrote the storyline in Homeworld 3 has probably been an idea generated in CHATGPT.
Then let's not forget how easy and overabundance is the resources in the game are that u can just spam build ur fleet without having to worry about running out of resources to build.
To be honest I felt Homeworld 3 is just a Homeworld spin-off with better quality and better graphics, for short a Homeworld Remastered/Remake rather than a sequel because it is a downgrade to the previous 2 games both Storywise, Lorewise, and Gameplaywise.
the story is there and done, it's never gonna get fixed
Not just is the gameplay bad, The story and characters looks like it is infused with the DEI nonsense that is so popular. Manly female characters in lead roles, story about strong woman finding out shes the savior of her people and even more awesome than she knew, a character model with masculine features to ensure the dreaded male gaze is not cast her way... all of the ingredients are there. No wonder the story sucked so much.
Noooo... I'm 50 and loved 1 and 2.....cut scenes of ships look like cartoons..... And what you say will ensure I stay well clear.
Its amazing how this shallow husk of a game got so many youtuber giving it a positive review.
Glad at least some have some dignity left.
You didnt even mention how revolting the CGI animation cut scenes are and how terrible the story telling is. It's nothing like the previous games style. Also they made the main character's face look really funky and goofy for no reason.
Well folks I have been playing HW from the beginning and it is my all time favorite. That game took me in deep submersion and I had control and I could take my time and play.
The whole game was amazing and the deep space was like really being out there, and the music and the dramatic scenes.
HW was ahead of the curve when it came out, I have played 1 and 2 so many times that I still get enjoyment of it.
I really was excited on HW3 coming out because I just knew they were going to make it just like of old but better , boy was I wrong, at no time did I get immersed in this , if you want to call it a game, even the animation was not up to par.
I had no control over nothing, but to listen to two idiots telling me what to do.
You could have left her story out and let me run my ship and follow orders without all the cinematographic, and interruptions.
I have only played one level and it is so boring, and im so tired of listening to the guy tell me what and where to go and when to do it. there is no time for exploring or getting more resources.
This game has no real content to it.
I heard that they let go most of the original folks that were there from the beginning that started HW, dont know if that is true , but I do know that this is not HW of old , its just another space shooting game.
I was a fool and payed 60 bucks for a game not worth twenty if that.
You folks that put this junk out apparently never really played HW form old, and that's because you were not old enough and still wearing diapers.
HW is a masterpiece and was ahead of its time and if you think this HW3 even comes close to the original HW, then you better go back and hire the original folks because this is not it.
The creative team here did not continue the story just created another one that makes no since.
It was a good story for them searching for a new homeland and fighting for survival in space.
I have ranted enough , but i do have a question?
Where does the player fit in, meaning if the girl tells the captain what to do , where do i fit in this as a player to make my own decisions.
I should be the captain and I follow orders according to what I have to face with and knowledge of and data and not follow stupid orders that make no since.
Anyway when the real HW comes out let me know, because this one is not even close.
RobertC
The funny is i wrote a email to blackbird when the demo first came and i implored them to pull the game and REDO the whole thing because its just a mess.. i guess they know better.. I mean i said some very strong words to them about it but oh well.. I played the story and thats it.. i dont even bother with the skirmish because the gameplay is that bad.. its spam fest.. nothing more.. maps are tiny.. you have NO hyperspace btw
Its buggy, anybody else notice how large amounts of ships will fly in the opposite direction of which you told them to attack, super annoying.
thats oddly not a bug. The units move to their maximum range to engage targets, I find it incredibly frustrating tbh but its clearly a part of the pathfinding.
You should stay away for many reasons
My Buddy was Permanently banned on the HW3 Forums on Steam, just for asking if Sweet Baby Inc. was involved.
Gearbox CM Noelle Banned him and locked the thread calling it a Racist and Discriminatory Dog whistle, that somehow was against the rules... TF?
What?
Makes no sense. Sweet Baby is unrelated.
Because an awful lot of the people who care about sweet baby whatever are dog whistling alt right racists. And if you let alt right trolls into your forum they and their bots tend to take over.
@@harrietr.5073 it is related, Sweet baby changed their policy and now they operate hidden their name appear nowhere it will be increasingly difficult to detect them
it's gone onto the 'sweet bay inc detected' web-page. Now we know why the story is so bad. I have all of the other Homeworld games but I don't think I'll be buying this.
Well, it's scored pretty high on inclusivity and feminisms.
There's nothing more sad than seeing a game being made, being hyped for it and then the actual product disappoints you. You try to force yourself to play, "Maybe I'll like it after a little bit..." but nah, you have to confess it just doesn't do it for you.
more of the same mate, the prices for games are always getting more expensive an the quality of game we get is getting well shit an it doesnt stop there i remember when you could beta a game for free now a days you need to buy into the game fully support the devs before thats even an option.
the gaming industry has been circling the plug hole for some time an i hope it improves
wating for falling frontiers an i hope that scratches my RTS itch
Agreed! Don't buy! Unfortunately I spent 6 hours before I realized i couldn't at least make my own proper custom hotkeys, the bone-headedness is hard-coded... The game is shit and I can't even get a refund.
i must admit i was excited when this was due for release, as i had played the the first 2 games , and enjoyed them, when the first one came out the RTS genre was in full swing, with the Command and conquer series, another was Dark Reign, KKND , and even the epic Total annihilation series especially the original, so sad to see this is not up to scratch shame, i have just bought today the Ghost of tsushima enjoying that on the pc :}
THanks for the warning. I hate having control yoinked for a cutscene I'm not interested in. I'll wait until it's modded out or the devs fix it.
You’re welcome 👍
I loved Homeworld 1 & 2 . I really tried to get into 3 but it just hasn't grabbed me liked the others did. Chances are I wont really play it again.
This really sucks considering Homeworld was kinda known for having one of the best campaigns of any game ever at the time and holds up fine today.
Buy?? Not worth of pirating it....
The in mision cutscenes existed in Homeworld Cataclism and Homeworld 2. I do not recal the 1st game.
It would point to somewhhere to send a ship / scout.. but your ships are almos t ther or aloready ther, and you loose control again 10 sec later to show you what that ship doscovered.
I honestly did not recall it from the old games, but it can be annoying
This just confirms my gut feeling I had about this game when I first saw it. Honestly I think that the story ended with HW2 and it really ought to have stayed that way, at least for the S'jet clan. I would've loved if they had made this game all about Kiith Soomtaw instead. We needed the Kuun-Lan back.
The gameplay is good, the story is shit.
Yes. Another case of “make her a girl boss! Make her look generically ethnic!! And make her probably GAY!!!! Oh. And make the BBEG a gay girl boss with a god-complex!!”
Yup, nothing like the old games hw1,2. Hate the story so far, looks like it was written by chicks for chicks, not for me though. I liked the grand stories of the old games, that they didn't focus on specific characters.
this game,Homeworld 3, help fund sweetbaby inc to destroy games. starfield was written and designed by sbi.
The demo did not fill me with confidence, using these iPhone ships felt like moba/esports slop.
Sad I am unsurprised.
I disagree. The gameplay is shit also, becaue the strategy is based on spamming units, instead of using intelligent tactics. This is the core element of an RTS.
Of course I didn't buy it and I will never will. But I watched streams. I will never install the garbage Denuvo on my computer.
The game is horrible, bad plot, idiotic characters with bad animations, woke Story.
It's a fail on every level. Big disappointment.
Man, I get what you’re saying, we all waited soooooo long, I’ve been a fan of the series since the first HW, its sequel and spin offs. I just don’t understand how they could drop the ball on the main story campaign. The only real chance to salvage here would be to improve the game for its coop / multiplayer modes
It's an embarrassment, and the Wargames they're banking on essentially has zero interest invested into it from the entire player base, except for elements of the community on Reddit.
I've been literally waiting for this game for twenty years, since Homeworld 2 was released in 2003. What i loved about Homeworld 2 is the tactical depth the game had. It didn't bother me that it had just 15 missions, but i loved it because of the tactical depth. It had a massive multiplayer fun factor. That is gone with Homeworld 3. What gave the game a tactical richness was the subsystem mechanic. For instance, you were able to destroy a BC main batteries and drive or DDs drive with strikecraft and escape with a faster CC or even take them on by out-manoeuvring them with frigates and corvettes. They have failed to keep the only thing Homeworld 2 exceeded in term of RTS. Honestly, im really disappointed. It feels like Homeworld 3 is just a graphically more contemporary polished money grab to me.
Home world lost all the mysteries..
no more allies like bentuzi .. forgot how to spell the name
If they gonna focus on the co-op war game thing, they should add more maps, mission objective types, more than just 2 different bosses etc.
I played Homeworld 1, Homeworld Cataclysm, Homeworld 2 in the 2000s. And also, I have been modding for Homeworld 2 for more than 15 years and have dismantled this game into atoms.
I want to say that Homeworld 3 simply killed and broke all the all achievements of Homeworld 2, that were made 21 years ago!
Homeworld 3 is piece of crap wrapped in a pretty wrapper in the hope that it will be bought. I agree with the author of the video. This game should not be purchased! This game is a shame for GearBox and BBI...
This game as a cash grab. I feel cheated for buying it and the fact that there will be no more single player campaign content is infuriating. And then the won't let us truly mod it. I think the modding lock down is due to them not wanting modders to create new content from other Sci-Fi IP's and because developers want to charge tons of $$$ for their own crappy content. This is such a disappointment, and is the reason why the Homeworld Remastered Collection still has more players.
I wanted to play this so bad but now I will stay away!
Stop playing games in general. Touch grass, nothing is worth playing.
Plenty of us are enjoying it and playing it lol Don't let others opinions make your mind for you.
Gaming is dead. Actually Cyberpunk, which was another flop, got fixed after 3 years and added an amazing expansion witch redeemed CDPR. The only recommendation I have nowadays.
And the fail of Cyberpunk was due to headlines and hardware limitations. They removed from the old gen consoles in the end.
0:26 This is my first time watching one of your videos and I find it concerning that you had to explain all of that lol.
They could have made the chicks nekkid. It would have at least kept my interest. 20 hours playing and I'm done.
To be honest I was never going to get this game because I would never come to Xbox series x kind of like sanctuary shattered Sun but honestly I'm glad you gave me the reason I need to not feel so left out about not getting this game if it wasn't for your advice I feel like I'm being left out or missing something big so thank you for your advice it does help me a lot
You’re welcome 👍
@@Born2Game in truth I will admit I suppose maybe something like this on Xbox series x would be fun but sadly I'm afraid that the graphics card for the Xbox series x and probably some other devices in it may not be powerful enough to handle a game like this hex I don't even think it'd be enough for sanctuary shattered son. 😭
But at least I do know there is going to be a battle for Middle Earth Lord of the rings game coming to Xbox that's one strategy game that I am looking forward to and hey we also have bannerlord so it's not that bad at all. 😁
I wish I had the textures you have in your game but I have some distorted texture issue
Now compare this to the 50€ you spend for BG3 and the 200h of immersion, story telling and great fights. It's a shame to see great potential being wasted away like it was nothing
I loved the Homeworld 1 and 2. Finished both the games and I was really looking forward to this one... But after watching this video I will wait for couple of months to see if anything will change before deciding to buy it!
i am so deeply regret buying collector edition of this.
Sucked in
too late i crowd funded it in 2019 already, its an okay game not as impactful and epic as hw1,2
I got it when it came out and got the season pass but thankfully held off on playing it, then i saw these reviews about this game. I refunded it and I'll wait a year or two and if they manage to improve this game THEN I'll consider getting it on a steam sale.
So true i was watching arch playing it and at 4 hours, i was so bored, is move cutscenes, move more cutscenes, the most impressive tactic or more usefull, grab your mother ship, put guard and move eveirthing, your figthers are so useless they die so fast, built on top and forget, also the maps are so small, and a corridor, with ceiling, a ceiling in an open space game, not to mention, the story.
Ok HUGHE SPOILER WARNING, SPOILER WARNING, the bad woman, female, yes female, man jaw and gay, genocide entire planets kill billions, but she is ascended because female, Karen sacrifice to ascend herself and the other woman, so the bad woman kill billions and ascend.
Homeworld is not about characters is about the Kushans, about the Higharans, not a person, missions are short, and one dude in the chat of arch remember dont know, he said open the data files and one third of the game is cutscenes
Even if you didn't spend 40-50% of your time in cutscenes, 7 hours is still an insultingly low playtime.
Will they patch it in ways that remedy some of the issues you mention here?
Probably not because their year one pass focuses on multiplayer but you never know
@Born2Game Kudos for making this video because I can't imagine it was fun. Like you, I've been waiting for this a long time, and I've been burned before by sequels poorly made. Just drives me crazy how more and more things that seem like obvious choices are constantly being punted on, and regression becomes the new expectation.
I mean in all honesty it's a gearbox game what did you expect?
Soon as I saw the black captain in the trailer I knew this was going to be modern day slop that wouldnt live up to the old games. Because wokeness goes beyond political propaganda, the rest of the product is almost always bad in every other way. Atleast they had the decency to remaster 1&2.
There are actually videos out there that are cutscenes only amounting to about 3h on a 7h campaign..... Basically the game is about 4.
I agree. Each mission felt short, the story was bad, and were is my railgun frigate? It felt like something big was missing in the story game play. At the end it didn't feel good (my disappointment is immeasurable meme).
So if I want story... i should wait for sale?
I should point out that my jaw dropped when I saw how bad the squadrom movement is. Homeworld 1 had much better movement. This squadrom movement and engagement makes no sense at all. It feels stiff and there seems to be no real unit independence like it was in previous games. I remember watching fighters fights in old homeworld games since they were so interesting. Maneuvers of experienced pilots were so cool to watch and cooperation in squadrons was really engaging. Here what i see is them just flying in specific formation and doing absolutely bonkers rotations etc. Look at 3:42 the most left squadron turn. Absolute trash. That is now how ships fly in the space .. but its exactly how you turn a square in space.. so those squadrons are just flying squares with animations. Looking at this I would say this game is indie game levels right now. Based on length and gameplay maybe 10 USD worth ?
Thanks for the heads up. I've been glancing at this title. Looking to buy a game for my birthday coming up. I went ahead and got ghost of tsushima. Glad i did plays awesome on a Legion Go. Cheers 🍻
You’re welcome and happy birthday, I hope you enjoy Ghost of Tsushima 👍
For sure. GOT seems to be pretty well optimized so far on pc.
I went through the entire campaign, the interruptions become so annoying you want to let the bad one win. It took..maybe 9 hours. I doubt i buy the DLC, def not at full price.
To me the biggest disappointment is, unlike all previous titles, the lack of MacOS support. Base on the video, graphics and scene is epic. remind me of Eve online. However, as a story mode player, the lack luster campaign would be a big disappointment. And base on what it is offering, the price seems really steep comparing with BG3.
Game works under Whisky if you want to play :)
Oh dear, that's a shame. Iloved Homeworld. It had a haunting sort of quality.
HW3 is now officially one of the worst examples of railroading in RTS. F#%king shame. It's crazy that Highfleet looks like a next Homeworld game *more than the actual third part...*
I see they got Lord Farquad to play Imogen.
Wanted to buy this game, but watched few vids first. One of the streamers stated that he never played franchise before, and he loved it, however for me it was like: "hey, these missions look kind of similar to me". I mean game looks different than 2 or 1, but at the end of the day it is exactly the same but with better visuals. Decided to skip it and wait few years, until all the content is published and then I will buy it on sale ;-P. But honestly, H1 and H2 had problems with balance between gameplay and forced-actions, but then game itself was just fresh. Now I think it is not.
Theres definitely a balance issue with the campaign. They made medium way way too easy. I would recommend Hard mode to put it back to a normal Homeworld difficulty experience. I do wish they would let us rebuild and mine after the mission as per old HW titles. its not bad, but agree, some of the cutscenes are annoying, but to be fair - this was in homeworld 1 also, when you fleet is getting chewed while they talk your ear off.
I got my butt kicked in medium
I guess I am just bad
Good to know I'm not missing anything.
The moment I saw the first minutes of gameplay I knew it is woke and I did not buy.
so this is basicly like battlefield games, they give you some shitty campaign, so you cant brag isnt in the game, then focus on multiplayer....
Preordered game back in 2019...
Big homeworld fan. It breaks me, to hear such reviews...
Shame as i had high hopes for this one. Deserts of kharak will always be my fav.
I still play Homeworld 1 online.. Every sequel since HW 1999 (Except Cataclysm) was worse and worse, I didn't even hope to get a good Homeworld 3 game.
This is my opinion... Just buy the game on G2A for $35. I did that and it was the $90 bundle. This game is worth it for the $35-39, but not worth $59.
This game is also clearly geared towards online play. Season pass. I don't understand why anyone had expectations for a campaign when you saw season pass and the roguelike game mode.
The video is correct in this way. The base game price is terrible because there simply is no content to justify it. If you do like I did, however, and spend less than $40 you can kind of get value out of it. I did say "kind of get value" because you're only going to get that from the online play and the mods (for online or roguelike).
Kind of funny, the $90 version of the game on g2a has went from $35 to $45 within the last hour when they had I think exactly 87 copies when I bought for $35. 87 copies have already sold and we're at the $45 tier with right now as I type 517 copies. BTW, the base game version on g2a is equivalent to the $90 steam version.
One thing I've noticed with a lot of video reviewers is that you guys aren't actually playing the full game through. That's fine, you have your opinions regardless. But I do think you should be playing a full campaign before making a call on quality. TH-cam really has become an echo chamber for video game reviewers.
is there a game this year that is not a letdown?50 pound for this?wukong will cost 50 quid i think...
A big game this year that’s not a letdown, probably not based on how it’s gone so far
I'd have said helldivers 2 up untill a couple of weeks ago...
@@chunkblaster Sony shit as been canceled, and woke fired
The gameplay is not good at all. Units prioritize saying in formation over following orders or attacking. Your units are actually more effective and responsive if you turn off formations. Something that quickly becomes annoying as you'll find the game automatically puts units in formation without any input from you. Controls are absolutely terrible. Things outside your drag select constantly get added into your selection. You are forced to use their new first person camera instead of the classic free orbit camera when not focused on a unit and it makes navigating the battlefield annoying. If you have mixed units in a group, only the lead unit's action appears on the action bar. Retire and scuttle are in a hidden menu, *RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER,* and there is no confirmation for scuttles. Later on in the campaign, you need to get rid of excess units to be able to build the new units and the game never tells you how to do it. Unit AI is atrocious. If there wasn't a pause button, the campaign would be nearly unplayable on anything but story difficulty as you have to babysit your units constantly.
The "you lose control" argument is a non-argument; the same stuff happened back in HW1. It's part of the genre, not something new.
For some reason, all the old Relic games get worse and worse as they make new ones. Dawn of War and Homeworld are some of my all time favorite games. But, Dawn of War 3 was a disaster and genuine made me angry at how poorly the series had been treated. It was such a dumpster fire that none of the planned DLC came out for it. This sounds like it's going down the same road.
It sucks so much because it looks so good. But now we have yet another case where the best-looking game is also the shittiest.
They cant even get to three digit comment engagement on their twitter account. This game is DOA.
That's why they're shutting down the Mobile Game. Cause they made Homeworld 3 a disaster and the mobile game is so much better. GearBox is a huge let down.
I detest cut scene story telling