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@@jcomandante6629 Yes, that too. A lot of countries have been giving us new military equipment lately. We do occupy a strategic spot in Asia so they take care of our defense needs
Is war inevitable in the philippines? Since its like in the middle of conflicts so thats why other countries have been interfering with us to gain power in this region?
@Xavier Robinson You should learn international history before you comment. Canada has been its own nation for longer than Germany. Being 'dominated' by a country doesn't remove your presence from an alliance.
@Xavier Robinson I can't speak to Australia because I'm Canadian, but in the 20s (I think 28) legislation was passed stating Canada stood on par with England in "all matters". To exercise this right, Canada waited 1 week after England to declare war. Prior to that, Canada had already refused a call to arms by England during the Chanak crisis. So no, Canada was a fully independent nation by WW2. We were just forgotten because we're always forgotten, especially in American based content. That said we as Canadians aren't really the point for this particular video.
It may take some time, but I’m very optimistic on the prospects each African nation poses in the future. You could be hearing the names Nigeria, South Africa and Ethiopia more than you’d expect.
@@kelkellys Thats true, but Corruption plus domestic problems (i.e. Racism & Populist leaders) continue to hinder them. I’ve got my prayers out for them but only time will tell if they can move forward in the world.
@@kiro9257 I mean,I would argue that if it was trump leading the country, trump would've cut relations with Ukraine, meaning russia would truly have not reason other than the russian population in the donbas,and Ukraine would have been too scared to start a war,and we would've avoided the death of thousands
First time I ever felt like disagreeing with Vox over this. The last thing Japan would ever want to do is to ally with China. Those countries have hated each other for centuries.
@@abrahamlincoln856 not trying to be pessimistic but I don’t think there will be another after the USA… because humanity will probably end in a century or so
@@hanzlonan7513 I don't think so, even without the Usa it will go on, in the future ballistic missiles/atomic weapons can be defended better and maybe China is already so far and there are new "super weapons" which change everything.
@@Janoip hahahahahaha listen to yourself do you truly believed US will go down without military action? Also you truly believe humanity can counter nukes? Hahhahahhaa man i think your just too positive no one can survive nuclear war even if you lived the edge of the earth you still be affected as it engulf the entire world and its cold nuclear winter and i believe i dont have to explain what a nuclear winter is.
Guys, historian check, the US had both France and Spain as allies in the begining. Spain was "erased" from the mainstream history because in 1898 the US decided to "free" Cuba and the Philippines.
Also, the alliance with France was off and on after independence too, especialy through the revolutionary and Napoleonic period. Nevertheless the point is obviously that the US hadn't really had lasting allies before the world wars.
@@Quintinohthree dont forget that when the U.S. was at its civil war, france invaded mexico, which violates the Monroe Doctrine in which no european power shall regain control or influence on Latin America
This was really interesting to watch, however I do feel it glosses over the ways in which the US has distanced itself from its allies before Trump was even elected. For example when New Zealand went nuclear free in the 80s, the USA actively tried to interfere with its democratic decision, showing a lack of respect for NZs sovereignty and perminantly destroying the trust NZ had previously had in the USA.
going nuclear free is a terrible option. i am from serbia and i really can't stand these politicians who have never tasted war trying to subvert mutually assured destruction promises.
@@kennypowers2341 1)Because we didn't need it, and 2) Our "allies" liked to test nuclear weaponry on pacific islands, and being the largest Pacific Island, we REALLY weren't ok with that idea lol.
Omg nations with little to no military aren’t going to like us. BOOO HOOOO and the nations that do matter like Britain, Japan, South Korea, Germany and aus are always going to love us bc either we built their democracy or they fought along side us in recent wars!
@@Goulouk54000 it does say something about the research done if they missed something that easy and common. Like either start from the 40s or present what happened beforehand properly
@@dalliskal4827 Well the thing is that china does have potential. the us is still struggling to contain the virus still. i don't know, china still wants to be the best :/
Yeah they probably should have just left that part out.... US was never protecting South America from anything but governments that were unfriendly to the US
@@deawinter yeah, the us kinda ruined Latin America with its right wing dictators in Cuba, Argentina, and Chile. The recent coup in Bolivia (which I’m glad it happened), the establishment of the oligarchy in Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala. Annexation of Mexican lands. And like that’s the basic stuff (I’m from Ecuador btw but live in the US)
@@proboxpepper6752 economy yes but the people says no. Just look at the Japanese poll...Japanese people has a exceptionally unfavourable attitude towards China
Considering Japan's prime minister Shinzo Abe has been pictured in a jet with the numbers "731" (unit 731) and following Abe's visits to the Yasukuni Shrine... Yeah, I doubt Japan is siding with China over the US anytime soon. Not to say they won't become closer since both nations have tried to move on from past conflicts, but Japan is still very close with America and still have a very long way to go before they are close with China.
you would be surprised how bad relations are between japan and china I would not be surprised if skirmish's between then would happen like on the Indian border.
Well, while Trump actually spoke factually (for once), the thing he's not smart enough to understand is, which country benefitted the MOST from the NATO alliance? Which country now (since NATO formed) had hundreds of bases and troops all over the world protecting it's own trade and political interests? USA, of course....and weakening NATO ties with Europe and Asia these last four years has only helped it's main rivals (namely China and Russia) gain a significantly better competitive edge against USA (yeah USA is still top, but this helped said rivals gain ground)....Trump's foreign policy (and pointing the finger at America's allies, even if they weren't spending as much as was agreed to) did NOT make America stronger, it made it weaker.
@@StoneX24 ok I'll explain. Any foreign intervention before that was temporary and nearly all americans wanted and voted for isolationism whenever they could until pearl harbor
US indeed has help creating military dictatorships if the situation demands its. But US is also cleary more prefareble to help democratic factions if there was a choice. And I think deep down you knew that if China and Russia replaced the role of US, there would be far far more authoritarianism on this planet.
They didn’t do proper research, discredited the impact of WW1 and other deals the US had during the 19th - 20th century, and made hideous accusations without convincing evidence? How much is Biden paying you, Vox?
@@red_amoguss may I ask what exactly? Dont get me wrong, they should've at least mentioned a few things but I cant think of anything that is a big enough deal to completely discredit the point of the video.
I agree; If it wasn't for the US you would be speaking German. All europeans do is criticize the US even though they are heavily reliant on the United States.
Mathew is right, and without America bombing Japan, Australians would be speaking Japanese because little know fact: japan tried to take out Australia too. We were hit more and harder than pearl harbour
@@matthewoconnor3376 well no, in WW2 likely but in WW1 we would have actually won without the US however it would have taken likely longer to do so but we still would have won. US also wasn’t the whole reason the allies won those wars, your essentially downplaying every countries efforts in the war by saying US is the reason Europe isn’t speaking German. Yes US was a big help, especially in WW2 yet saying that makes it sound like US is the ONLY reason the allies won, which is not true and its massively insulting to us and to the other countries that lost thousands/millions of people defending against the other countries.
1:31 So, are we just going to ignore *Canada, Australia, India, South Africa, New Zealand, Poland, Brazil, Mexico, Ethiopia and all the other countries* who also fought in the war?
@ClickNSpam Over 87,000 Indian soldiers and 3 million Indian civilians died in World War II. Field Marshal Sir Claude Auchinleck, Commander-in-Chief, India, asserted the British "couldn't have come through both wars [World War I and II] if they hadn't had the Indian Army."
India was made to jump into the war. We had no wish to fight a European war. That could be said for Australia Ethiopia New Zealand etc who were made to fight by the European powers.
I reckon that’s mostly because WWI was an exception to the rule of American foreign policy, and a temporary one at that, with the US retreating from interventionism pretty much immediately afterwards.
"The next 150 years, America was alone .. until 1941" this is just not correct. The US helped the allies in WW1 first by goods supply and later by taking the decisive decision to enter the war. This was not a neutral position.
As a Filipino, U.S.A. must have to find a way to show their trust to us. Our president might be planning to stop our alliances to the U.S.A. Sana matugunan niyan
Wala naman kasing ginawa yung US sa spratly island eh nung pinagkainteresan ng China MORE THAN A DECADE ago. It was part of both countries agreement (US-PH) same with (Japan-US) na kapag may bansang nag invade eh dedepensahan ng US at vice versa pero feeling ko arm personnel naman ambag ng Pinas kung sakaling may nag invade sa US. Sabi nga nila PANGAKONG NAPAKO yung nangyari sa sitwasyon sa West Philippine Sea.
@@Ymats-dj1nt The US conduct navy exercises in the West Philippine Sea together with EU countries, Australia is also doing its part. And to tell you, Its not just average military ships, but actually one of the big guns of the US and Britain.
Can we talk for a second about how radically the point of view for America has changed ... we are talking about the USA , a country that invested so much in good appearance, where everyone in the world knew about the American dream .... and now the whole world is appalled by what’s happening there , we are starting to see through the cracks of the so called American dream
@@mctev nitpicking? So Americans recent riots, the guns crime and heath care, trumps your president, so is just "nitpicking" when people from other countries just point it out and go hey, maybe US isn't as "great" as Americans like to think? I accept my countries flaws, yet to me and others, it feels like americans have issues accepting their own countries flaws.
@@pipercharms7374 everyone knows the u.s. has flaws but they’re extremely exaggerated by ppl. why doesn’t anyone talk abt the conflict with muslims in france and europe and the terrorist attacks as much as they do with america’s problems? or how canada treats their natives? “america is a third world country with a gucci belt 🤪”. i commented to say that ppl just nitpick on america bc they’re the superpower of the world. all i’m saying is that america isn’t all that bad but they do have their problems.
I would like to point out that a permanent alliance was not somenthing never done before, Portugal and England have been allies for over 600 years. Yes the general rule was to ally in a war to war basis but there were exceptions.
ANZACS from ww1 onwards too, to the point that the "army corps" part of that acronym has become obsolete, both countries evacuating each other's citizens during covid, co-ordinating responses, sitting in on each other's government's confidential cabinet meetings etc. Pretty sure Scandinavia would have a similar history too & many others, I mean even the UK, what's that exactly if not a permanent, super strong alliance between 4 countries?
Its not talking of that kind of permanent alliance. Its talking of a new kind of paradigm for the international relations, alliances in regards of universalism values, a quintessential american introduction to the international relations. That Wilson proposed at first, but wasn't implemented till the WWII. What the video is talking about it the other kind of alliances that were the norm in Europe and the world in general before, the alliances based on raison d etat, on the national interest of the moment. That's why when you see the wars of the XIXth century alliances are really shortlasting and interchangable according to the next national interest. Read Diplomacy -Kissinger for more info. And Portugal and Uk was AN EXCEPTION, not the norm.
@@kilougi it was Oldenburg was over centuries ally to Brandenburg/Prussia, the turingian states were allies with saxony, Bavaria, Baden and Württemberg were over centuries allies with Austria. The Roman states in the HRE were allies and there were many other alliances between states in the HRE witch lasted over centuries.
"The idea of using alliances to stop wars was new." Ummm, no it wasn't. It was tried in the early 1900s and failed miserably and ultimately led to the Great War.
@@Anno_Nymouse Make sense. Technically if you take "United States" at its face value, territories (and colonies) should not be colored. However, I do believe that the subtle exclusion of American territories and colonies from our historical discourses can make us forget about an important part of America's past and influence our judgments. It is highly plausible that everyone in America is well aware of the presence of American territories and colonies the course of American history, but the video makers can certainly hold themselves to a higher standard. No harm, no malice, only sincere hope that the video can deliver more nuances and uncover some of that collective consciousness. (If you see a future Vox video on "Why our maps do not show Alaska and Hawaii and the Philippines," you know why...lol)
Turkey: Hey US can I buy the patriot system? USA: No. Turkey: ok. Hey Russia can I buy the s400? Russia: sure you can buddy! USA: "OUR ALLIES HATES US!"
@@Jazjeffla These people were 20/30 year olds when they entered office and it didn't magically fix the problems. Putting more 20/30 year olds in office won't fix problems this time around either. I rather a range of all ages of qualified people who care about the country as a whole. Get the ones not doing their job out, but ageism isn't the answer.
Kind of right, kind of wrong. Its like they say in the video. Historic alliances were about spesific wars. No alliance in history comes close to the size, power and importance than that of Nato. So actually yes, it is a unique thing invented after WW2.
I think what is new isnt just a guarantee of neutrality or mutual defense but an enforcement of a global economic system Like jazz, listen to the notes not being played: US led capitalism
@@Christian_TH lol wat, Antente and Central Powers before WW1 same idea, but we had WW1, UK and France(by the time like 70% of all world’s territory) had the same idea before WW2, but we had WW2 Americans definitely aren’t the ones the invent the idea, but the ones that succeeded in implementing it
Thanks god some countries instead choose to non align with these pacts like the Non Alignment moment, it proves that there is a way to be independent and safe
@@chris-noelkachi1696 It's a deal where every country in the agreement keeps their emissions of carbon dioxide and other stuff harmfull to the environment down below a certain %. Basically, it's a long term plan to slow the climate change. Very important in my opinion for our future generations!
@@cake. I honestly didn’t know about this. I knew Woodrow Wilson founded it, hence I kind of just assumed we were in it because that makes logical sense but hey gotta love isolationism :)
That's how diplomacy works. That is how shrewd and interlinked all nations are. There isn't something as an algebraic expression, as everything has indirect tertiary consequences that require much knowledge and experience to foresee. Experience which the current president has none of. All he knows is how to run a hotel chain, which he probably delegates the majority of the decision making for anyways.
Anyone who mentions how “America is spreading democracy and freedom”, without also mentioning all the coups that established authoritarian leaders, especially in Latin America, is a person I immediately lose trust in
Not just Latin America. In the Middle East, US and allies still support those head choppers and help them stay in power by oppressing people uprisings such as in Egypt, Yemen or Bahrain.
And Australia. A so-called “ally”. American interventionism is a cancer on the world and as an Australian I think we should definitely be careful about going into any more wars with such a country. After the US interferes in our politics they ask for our support in war. Too many times we’ve gone into Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. For what?
As a turkish person this video made me realize that Russia is just teasing with america using Turkey. Thanks for the video, it made me see things in a bigger perspective.
The us has always hated turkey,to this day they've supported Greece against turkey, turkey wants old glories back,the us wants to keep their NATO allies in check, Turkey is spiraling into recession,same as Australia and Britain,the us fell and got up quietly while their allies suffered
"The United States recognizes and welcomes the emergence of a free, independent, and democratic Russia." Well, that was a poor prediction on a hindsight.
It wasn't a prediction it was a farce, they knew the subsequent economic and political turmoil Russia would endure, but they didn't anticipate the extent to which it would compromise their interests.
America (Trump): Hey Japan, you should spend more on your Military: Japan: *Visible Confusion* Constitution doesn’t allow for a Military and only a small defence force is allowed. America (Trump): Yeah but we’re losing money defending you. Japan: 👁👄👁 You literally forced us to write that in our constitution after WWII saying that America will protect Japan instead 😂
@@mattbowdenuh Or the american fight for independence where France saved them from Britain despite not even half of the us colonists caring. And then again in the civil war where Lincoln managed to end the war and wanted to help the south, but was killed.
as a Dutch person I dont even understand this whole discussion about how the NATO.. Trump was spot on; all NATO members signed a treaty that we would spend 2% GDP on our military. For decades most NATO countries completely ignored this but profited from being NATO member. I totally understand that Trump held us accountable for not abiding the contract for years. If only the US keep their end of the bargain; the NATO will lose its power. I wouldnt vote for Trump, but in this case; he couldnt have been more rational
They aren't playing chess they are making aggressive out lashes because their populations are aging and their economies are stagnating and declining this is the only opportunity they have to solidify their futures and make aggressive actions. If they were actually playing chess they would use agreements similar to what the french have in africa where all african currency must go through the french national bank.
@@pigman-nl7fg People have been saying China's economy is stagnating and declining for over a decade now. They've been stagnating and declining so much that they became the world's second largest economy LOL
Yeah I hate how they make it seem like America is the great and mighty first of everything. People have been allying without a specific war for thousands of years. The Egyptians and Hittites. The Delian League. The Pax Romana/Deorum. It was only during the medieval ages when that point stands but even then there were allies who specifically allied for trade and communal support.
@kie America is the most powerful and richest but it isn’t the best country in the world. If you define the best county as rich and powerful your shallow and short minded.
What? Japan formally declared war to USA. But the message of declaration didn't arrived to Pearl Harbour fast enough. Resulted in the crew not prepared at all
@@erinmunsayaclynch7740 but it was the first organisation that was an allied forces designed to prevent war, in some cases I'd say that the UN failed as well due to the security council and the veto powers
Vox is very left wing, it isn't suprising they'd "forget" to mention critical pieces of evidence which would invalidate their Democrats are good Republicans are bad narrative.
@@instantinople3796 then it’s not an empire, genius What is so difficult to comprehend? To have an empire you have to govern the territories you claim. Even Puerto Rico picks it’s own governor. A literal US overseas territory still has more independence than European colonies of the past. Contrary to popular belief, the USA has already attempted colonialism, and its greatest extent was in WW2 before decolonisation. So unless you’re referring to that, don’t bother
I agree with you, but if I were to hazard a guess it's because our situation is different being on the same continent as the USA as opposed to someone like S. Korea, or a European country. Yes there are economic issues that will affect trade but militarily wise, Canada and the USA are still close. I want to say to prove it (but please Google to confirm I'm right) the USA still permits Canadian officers to command American troops in combat operations where they are working together. Despite rhetoric and economic strains military wise (the purpose of the video) the situation is not screamingly different
Its because even if NATO fully collapses, Canada and the US would likely still be allies in one form or another, purely based on geography and having very similar culture. What's more concerning is European and Asian powers turning away from North America and looking to China as the economic center of the world.
Your historical overview of US foreign policy is oversimplified and overlooked many things. One example is the Berlin Wall. It was more about preventing a loss of people from East Germany rather than backing off from the US.
@@PoiarNoia It used about 2 minutes going through US foreign policy, that is more than enough to mention to clarify a few things. And the point about the Berlin Wall was just outright not accurate which overlooked the context in East Germany.
"You over-simplified your foreign policy overview" *proceeds to focus in on one specific detail and further oversimplifies instead of expanding on the point* LOL also, the point of an overview is to give the main points, which he did. He delved much further into it than you did, that's for sure lol
Well, we can’t really go that far when the people we support don’t spend nearly as much effort supporting themselves, can we? It’s not sustainable, especially if we want to go far.
@@oracle7858 It's true but if you looked at the military spending chart and combined all those countries' spending they'd definitely be someone we want to keep close.
Awesomely said. You are genious! It would be a pleasure ro meet you sir! Can you send me 1999 dollars that i can book a plane and visit you. Its an honor
Love the lack of comment on the specific and systematic commitment Australia has had to the US foreign agenda, but even referring to the relationship to be "harder to justify." Where Australia has been the most supportive of allies, eg. foreign wars (Vietnam, Korea, Afganistan, etc) United Nations support and even providing economic support for foreign neighbours to bring them into the United States safety net. Shows the true lack of appreciation on all sides of The United States for our support. P.s. Honestly shaken my opinion of the US.
Australia is biggest country to suffer from the problem of being an Island. Being an Island means they are always going to be surrounded by the maritime power (the US and before that UK) . Australia will always have to bend towards the country that surrounds it. Australia has been involved in every single America war and their allyship gets overlooked because its never questioned. Just look at all the attention the PH is getting because its questioning the alliance. However we are tired of taking your problems and making them ours. Every time a regional enemy does something to our ally WE have to take the political backlash and spend our political clout. When Australia asked the UN to investigate China for Covid, there were many Australian politicians upset that the USA didn't do it so that they could avoid the political backlash that would come from China.
@@earldonavon110 The questioning of Australia in UN was a pretty bold move. I being an Indian is in complete awe about the bravery of Australia in countering China. Hope so Indo-Australia Alliance Grow further in time as we have a lot of shared interests and a common democracy
@@deccno True. That commitment can't just be measured in dollars alone. Focusing on that, US pundits won't see local opportunities those allies are sacrificing in order to keep the alliance, such as regional political clout, regional trade and collaborative development opportunities, or having to suppress their own domestic growth and industrial base in order to "opt" into preferential imports from American companies and hand-me-down military hardware like Desert-Storm surplus Abrams.
“A nation can’t remain great if it betrays its allies and lets down its friends” *America let’s down Britain with the Suez crisis, breaks its promise to share its nuclear research after Britain shared its research and ignores Britain’s offer for help and advice with the Vietnam war* Sure is doing a good job with its ‘special relationship’ with Britain 👏
@@stevonwhite8933 Yes it does. But the present and the immediate past is what dictates our world now. No one is using small policy disagreements from literally half a century ago to dictate modern global politics and thinking that to be the case presents a warped view of the world.
In my view, it's important for South Korea (and Japan) to implement nuclear capability. That way, they'll have better control of their sovereignty. Both have the economic and technical capability to do it. The US is using South Korea and Japan for its own interest under the pretext of 'providing security', but that's actually making it less safe for South Korea and Japan, because in the event of a clash between USA and North Korea or/and China, South Korea and Japan may become the target simply due to them acting as enablers and launch bases for USA. Taking their security in their own hands through MAD will give South Korea and Japan a lot of flexibility in negotiating the best economic and strategic policies for themselves without being dictated by / asking permission from the USA.
My take on the video: 1. It establishes that the US alliance system became somewhat obsolete after the collapse of USSR 2. It reaffirms that previous US leadership did not succeed at reforming that system so far 3. It mentions that other world powers - such as Russia and China - learned to go around and sidestep this alliance system, using various other forms of power projection, making it ineffective 4. It proves this system is - in general - expensive to maintain. Then it mentions that there are two candidates: - one who did not yet attempt to reform the system even though he was in various public functions for years (Biden) - the other one who views the system negatively and is willing to alter or remove it, but seems to lack a good, coherent replacement plan (Trump). That is my Eastern European perspective - Biden wants to preserve the outdated system, Trump wants to dismantle it, neither seems to have a clear vision of a better system.
Probably the best and most fair assessment of this whole video. I do believe that Trump is correct that current alliances are unfair to the US, but Russia and China do need to be checked. With that said, nowadays it's really just a big stick arms race, slapping a few small neighbors here and there. Everyone knows that there will be no winner of WWIII.
personally I say trump is the best candidate, he is willing to stand up against Russia and China, (the Chinese trade wars as a example.) but I do know his outlook is flawed. But it’s the best we have currently.
Putin's aggression has proven the need for a stronger, more robust NATO. Containment of a nation that wants to bring back annexation of land by force needs a strong response. There is a reason Putin put so much effort in getting Trump into office, as he blamed Hillary Clinton personally for Ukraine demanding its pro Russian autocrat to leave.
That is true. Mainly bacause US is slow to realize that the nature of the threat has changed dramatically. The wars are no longer about land and cyber threats are becoming more and more serious as more and more systems operate in the Internet. On one hand, this makes alliences even more important, because on the internet every country is your neighbor. On the other hand existing alliances are equally outdated, because f-19 won't stop the cyber attack.
@Praxis Alba It wasn't a US coup. Who tells you this stuff? The general population accused a strongman of corruption and rigged elections, chased him off to Russia, and then put a democratically elected leader in charge. The US gained nothing from this, imperialism is based around controlling land and peoples, and the US president can even get Ukraine to publicly discredit his political foes in return for gifs of weapons to fight an invasion from Russia. Russia is obsessed with a siege mentality narrative, something that goes back to the Tsars. They may span 11 time zones, but they constantly say they are in danger of invasion. Putin uses the threats of "Western Imperialism" or even just "Western Culture" (specifically feminism and tolerance of homosexuality,) to distract the population of their precarious economic situation and authoritarian government. Russia has threatened Sweden over a island Sweden seized it back from a Russian force that had claimed it in 1808. Russia's neighbors are mostly terrified of them, it's one of the reasons they want allies to protect them.
The idea that alliances being used as preventative measures being pioneered by the USA after ww2 is...questionable. Have we ever heard of the concert of Europe? WWI?
"Alliances were primarily built to win wars." Tell me, did those alliances eventually lead to war? So I guess the preventative measure either didn't work or wasn't the intent.
@Slim Pickens Same reason as , if someone asks for or needs a coat or something, you lend them yours. Helping someone out. Also most of eastern europe (depending on which countries you include) are pretty similar in most respects to western europe and north america. And, as was mentioned in the video, keeping russia from interfering and expanding influence.
@@gorthsleeperofwomen900 Don't think so. That is kinda the point of the video though, isolated geography made it easier to stay out of direct war threats, less so for UK, more so for US.
Yes, but the point is in WW1, they were mainly involved because of US ships being sunk around the British Isles, due to German U-Boats and Russia leaving the war. In WW2, they were genuinely attacked by Japan and Hitler declared war. Plus, they were isolated, in terms of development and growth. The US purposely isolated themselves to develop and grow, they didn't want to get involved in anything. Until they had to.
@Bhanu Singh Don't take offence man, I don't hate US =) My understanding of what Vox said was "US didn't feel threatened enough to build alliances before 1941; and that was because of the geography". Of course the country did fight plenty of in wars, it just wasn't threatened. I think Master missed the point the video was making.
I’ve started to see the US as the police. It’s not great but who else is there. Without the US, other countries with big ambitions who feels entitled to take more than their fair share will start acting upon their urges without much retaliation or consequences. For example, China is already trying to take the South China Sea, which many other neighboring countries relies upon for fishery plus theres studies showing a surmountable amount of oil in and around there. Most neighboring countries around China can be considered third world, and most of them have ties with the US to help them deter China from taking over. Another current example is with Russia feeling entitled to take over Ukrainian and surrounding countries. Without the US or other NATO countries, Ukraine wouldn’t have enough guns or intel to fight Russia off. The US is by no means perfect but they’re good enough to have around. Everyone has to understand that what affects other countries will also affect the US be it from trading, imports, alliances, or other. No country can thrive or even sustain itself without help from others, North Korea is a testament to that. No one else has enough military power to police others like the US, and if the US allows for no consequence then bigger countries will just help themselves and take what they want until they get so big and ambitious that they’d also dare to take from the US. Meanwhile the US will for sure be suffering because trade deals won’t be as strong without alliance, Russia is another example of what can happen when other countries or businesses stop servicing you. People are insatiable, they can never be satisfied with what they have. *written on October 2022
How on earth did the Vox reporter say : "had any army at all", in a lineup that included France and the UK at the time ? 2 of the biggest militaries in the world...
I feel like NATO has been pushed under the rug a little. I'm British, so I'm unsure of the American point of view. But I really feel like the EU should do something now, as if it's our time to shine. I feel like Europe could fill the boots of America as they isolate themselves, and Europe retakes their position as the primary pillar of world democracy.
@Nilly Sigger 2017 the EU had 68,5 Million refugees. I honestly don't know where your number is from. In the whole world we have 7,8 Billion people ( May 2020). That would mean that every seventh person is a refugee coming to Europe? XD And the amount of refugees have nothing to do with system democracy or the wolrwide position and sovereignty of the EU.
The EU should step up, instead of always looking for the US or China as support they should manage to come in a become more powerful, I’m more for a Eurocentric world than an American world and even less a Chinese one
I get the point of this video, but some things are largely exaggerated. Like in the graphic at 10:07 it shows south korea moving closer to China in terms of allies. Its a ridiculous notion, but because you didn't actually say it your not really accountable.
Correction: At 2:26, our map of the Soviet Union includes Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia was not part of the USSR.
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Definitely need a video about the current wars the United States is currently involved in, as well the continued agitation of Iran
If trump win its threaten world peace it may lead to ww3
How will Joe Biden treat Israel and its leaders oppressive government
*USA allies before the british*
1. Pacific Ocean
2. Atlantic Ocean.
[jajas in mexican]
I’ll say the Atlantic did a great deed on the Titanic 🤷♂️
@JP thank you someone knows the truth.
@@rocdaneweracap do have a link on this...i want to know more🤔
@JP You are so funny, but if you think please tell me what to read to change my mind.
"The United States of America is a lucky country. Surrounded by oceans and weak neighbours."
- Otto von Bismarck
*Oceans
@@clipit4503 Thanks. I´m german myself and we write it with a "z". ;-)
As a Canadian I’m mildly offended
But Germans can't beat America
@@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan6687 germany isn’t even a military power anymore because they lost two world wars.
I can't stop laughing at the fact that this is video is sponsored by a vodka company
Yooooo why
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Absolut is actually a Swedish company
@Krzysztof Bartczak hahaha..
@Krzysztof Bartczak hahaha..
How America could lose its allies
Iran, Russia, North Korea and China: *write that down, write that down!*
@Complex Construct that's a joke... dude
Vietnam: Does this mean I have to side with the fatty I beat like 50 years ago?
@@armanmahmood9783 ha ha that is funny
@@armanmahmood9783 Hahahaha
@@Legion849 me thinking this is pure sarcasm:
The US: “Could you please use 2% of your GDP on defence?”
Iceland: what is a defence?
Iceland defeated the UK thrice in the cod wars.
@@Titamiva those weren't actually Wars though. Media hyperbole there.
You mdan the crying like a baby wars?
Hehe volcano go boom
@@Titamiva They won because they threatened to leave NATO
“Japan is moving closer to China” that’s more likely geographically than politically.
😂
At 1:32 ROC was one of the BIG FOUR. Republic of China is an ally nation VOX..................... U FAIL WORLD HISTORY
I mean you’re not wrong the plates are moving slowly
@@d.x.1152 ROC was in the Big 4, but the Big 3 was clearly US, UK, USSR
Did you know that one day... LA will be very close to Anchorage?
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no big corp for new world order that scale yet
Meanwhile, Philippines: *looking at Cold War-era planes and submarines from South Korea and Israel* Hmm, a bit pricey, but I think I'll splurge
Never heard of it 🤔. I thought the DND already chosen the f-16 of the USA and scorpenes from France, wellaybe not the scorpeneses.
@@jcomandante6629 Yes, that too. A lot of countries have been giving us new military equipment lately. We do occupy a strategic spot in Asia so they take care of our defense needs
Is war inevitable in the philippines? Since its like in the middle of conflicts so thats why other countries have been interfering with us to gain power in this region?
dont see anything wrong with buying more military equipment for our country
@@jcomandante6629 I think were set to get the scorpene class, we just need the downpayment.
Reminder: Canada and Australia were in WWII before America. They aren't even highlighted with the Allies in this video. Kind of sad to see.
Maturity.
They even supported Manufacturing efforts too.
(Canadian factories making STEN guns, are what stood out to me.)
@Xavier Robinson You should learn international history before you comment. Canada has been its own nation for longer than Germany. Being 'dominated' by a country doesn't remove your presence from an alliance.
And South Africa, too.
@Zakar Germany was winning the war in 41’
@Xavier Robinson I can't speak to Australia because I'm Canadian, but in the 20s (I think 28) legislation was passed stating Canada stood on par with England in "all matters". To exercise this right, Canada waited 1 week after England to declare war. Prior to that, Canada had already refused a call to arms by England during the Chanak crisis. So no, Canada was a fully independent nation by WW2. We were just forgotten because we're always forgotten, especially in American based content.
That said we as Canadians aren't really the point for this particular video.
*The United States was protected by two oceans until 1941* Britain in 1812: Hey.
It was Canada though.
In 1812, the United States was the aggressor.
"Hey" from History of the entire world I guess?
@@nikodemus7900 i didn't think about it that way but sure
@@VincenzoRutiglianoDiaz Canada was still under British Rule not to mention that the British brought men from Europe to fight
Africa finding out there’s a big groupchat they’re not in: 👁👄👁
It may take some time, but I’m very optimistic on the prospects each African nation poses in the future. You could be hearing the names Nigeria, South Africa and Ethiopia more than you’d expect.
Brian Turner hopefully🙏🏾🙏🏾 the world will stop sleeping on them soon
@@brianfrommars they are already extremely rich just the wealth is in the hands of corrupt politicians
South Africa can easily became a big power in the future look at their economic growth
@@kelkellys Thats true, but Corruption plus domestic problems (i.e. Racism & Populist leaders) continue to hinder them. I’ve got my prayers out for them but only time will tell if they can move forward in the world.
7:12 "You could think about Russia's invasion of Ukraine as a prelude to what could happen"
That aged well.
And it happened under a weak president that was not trump 🤣
@@pslacumyup. It happened on a president who isn’t under Putin’s list of friends.
@@kiro9257 trump and Putin are friends? Haha you have got to be kidding me. If anything its the 3M dollar donation Moscow mayor gave Joe biden son
@@pslacum Trump*
@@kiro9257 I mean,I would argue that if it was trump leading the country, trump would've cut relations with Ukraine, meaning russia would truly have not reason other than the russian population in the donbas,and Ukraine would have been too scared to start a war,and we would've avoided the death of thousands
Japan isn’t siding with China . Infact it started the QUAD to counter China .
First time I ever felt like disagreeing with Vox over this. The last thing Japan would ever want to do is to ally with China. Those countries have hated each other for centuries.
@@luqhakim5711 This is the first time you have disagreed with Vox?
japan doesn't really have a choice, they have to join the american group
Japan didn't start the QUAD. It only joined as a permanent member in 2015. What is now QUAD began as a joint naval exercise between the US and India.
Yea..... that was under Shinzo Abe, Suda isn't pushing that hard for the QUAD
''This was a new idea: making alliances to prevent wars rather than start them''
Otto von Bismarck: "am I a joke to you''
Hahahaha nice one
DANKE
The Habsburgs are offended by this comment.
This was a new idea millenia ago
Pax Romana says, “hold my Gladius”
Vox: America had no relations with other countries until WWII
Latin America: 👀 ummmmmmmm
U. K., Dominion of Canada, Spain, France, Mexican Empire.
Brasil, etc.
Really? (Asking out of curiosity, not out of spite, I'm certainly unsure of the history between America and Latin America)
@@Star-fr4jz Look up the Monroe doctrine, that sums up their relationship pretty well.
@@coltenkurtz4739 thank you!
"The us will not remain the greatest forever"
This is basically true for any dominating country/empire
Who will be next !
Let’s hope to be everybody but not Cbina
@@abrahamlincoln856 not trying to be pessimistic but I don’t think there will be another after the USA… because humanity will probably end in a century or so
By the time that happen i world is no more.
@@hanzlonan7513 I don't think so, even without the Usa it will go on, in the future ballistic missiles/atomic weapons can be defended better and maybe China is already so far and there are new "super weapons" which change everything.
@@Janoip hahahahahaha listen to yourself do you truly believed US will go down without military action? Also you truly believe humanity can counter nukes? Hahhahahhaa man i think your just too positive no one can survive nuclear war even if you lived the edge of the earth you still be affected as it engulf the entire world and its cold nuclear winter and i believe i dont have to explain what a nuclear winter is.
Guys, historian check, the US had both France and Spain as allies in the begining. Spain was "erased" from the mainstream history because in 1898 the US decided to "free" Cuba and the Philippines.
Also, the alliance with France was off and on after independence too, especialy through the revolutionary and Napoleonic period. Nevertheless the point is obviously that the US hadn't really had lasting allies before the world wars.
For real i noticed they didn’t label Spain as a first ally.
Dutch and Mysore as well, but noone talks about those....
@@Quintinohthree dont forget that when the U.S. was at its civil war, france invaded mexico, which violates the Monroe Doctrine in which no european power shall regain control or influence on Latin America
Yeah, basically Spain and the US traded the Philippines like some kind of currency. What a shame.
This was really interesting to watch, however I do feel it glosses over the ways in which the US has distanced itself from its allies before Trump was even elected. For example when New Zealand went nuclear free in the 80s, the USA actively tried to interfere with its democratic decision, showing a lack of respect for NZs sovereignty and perminantly destroying the trust NZ had previously had in the USA.
xerosereify why did you guys go nuclear free
going nuclear free is a terrible option. i am from serbia and i really can't stand these politicians who have never tasted war trying to subvert mutually assured destruction promises.
@@kennypowers2341 1)Because we didn't need it, and 2) Our "allies" liked to test nuclear weaponry on pacific islands, and being the largest Pacific Island, we REALLY weren't ok with that idea lol.
Omg nations with little to no military aren’t going to like us. BOOO HOOOO and the nations that do matter like Britain, Japan, South Korea, Germany and aus are always going to love us bc either we built their democracy or they fought along side us in recent wars!
@Melissa Sullivan no
1:15
So for the next 150 years, America was alone. Until 1941
1917: Am I a joke to you?
1812: Am I a joke to you?
That’s a detail, it doesn’t change the argument of the video
The American Commonwealth: We don't exist
@@Goulouk54000 it does say something about the research done if they missed something that easy and common.
Like either start from the 40s or present what happened beforehand properly
Rutherford B Hayes saving the country of Paraguay: Am I a joke to you?
“The US was the only superpower in the world”
China: Gas Gas Gas
Cough Cough
Lets say goodbye to chinas dream of them being superpower
@@dalliskal4827 Well the thing is that china does have potential. the us is still struggling to contain the virus still. i don't know, china still wants to be the best :/
sounds very german... ok I think thats too far
china is weak, never be no.1, take it easy
Americans: Its our Presidential Elections.
Foreigners: This is Pure Entertainment.
right :)
I am from india tho
Correct
Kanye 2020
Pure entertainment that will decide our future.
@waylon lewin This jarbled mess of a comment was actually informative
Being a 3rd world country is like being stuck with a divorced parent just because they gained custody of you cause he or she is the richer one.
Facts
@Rátt Pâkk I feel for you
i felt that 😥
@Rátt Pâkk it’s because Iran is trying to regain its status as the great Persian Empire. But that time has long since gone & passed.
True
In short: America’s having a midlife crisis
more like end of life crisis lol
regardless we’ll still be a military and economic colossus
@@blancavelasquez9859 That's what Rome said...
@@blancavelasquez9859 unfortunately China is taking that over as they have advanced heavily on technology.
@@blancavelasquez9859 it's only going to be military, China is expected to overtake America as the largest economy in the next year
I usually don't like political stuff, but this is kinda interesting to watch.
True. It is also frightening to think of how important the coming years will be for world politics.
@@mapping1187 The 21st century will contain another global conflict. All on the backdrop of environmental collapse.
Yeah, I agree. I learn a few things from this video.
One of the best videos I've seen. Hopefully the US stay close with it's allies
As a fellow American I hate my country
The USA was never “allies” with Latin American countries. It was more of neocolonialist effort
Yeah they probably should have just left that part out.... US was never protecting South America from anything but governments that were unfriendly to the US
Why do you say that?
Exactly, less help more control
@@deawinter yeah, the us kinda ruined Latin America with its right wing dictators in Cuba, Argentina, and Chile. The recent coup in Bolivia (which I’m glad it happened), the establishment of the oligarchy in Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala. Annexation of Mexican lands. And like that’s the basic stuff (I’m from Ecuador btw but live in the US)
This argument is so cliched
"The US was alone."
The British soldiers looting Washington: Hold my tea.
"The US was alone"
Civil War : 👁️👄👁️
"The US was alone"
Us in World war 1: am I a joke to you?
But they weren’t really looting they ate the food on the table but the officers told their soldiers not to loot
@DIEGO PEREZ GENIS I mean it’s just food not really a valuable to take home but I see what you mean
@@AzaiReacts and than we burned down the white house
Vox: Here’s how the U.S could lose its allies
Russia: “I’m gonna do what’s called a pro-gamer move.”
“Drink and vote responsibly” ...preferably not at the same time.
You saw that add to for vodka
That's definitely true I agree with you
Seeing that Trump got elected last time it seems like all Americans were drunk when they voted 🗳
I dont think it would make a difference. Trump, biden. They're all the same
I saw that ad
I'll save you 12 minutes: The US is having an identity crisis again
How many times has it been again?
US Identity 'Crises':
- Revolutionary War (1770s)
- Central government/Individual states/taxation (1780-1790s)
- Civil War and Slavery (1860s)
- Imperial nation or freeing colonies (1890s)
- Isolationism (1910s)
- Prohibition (1920s)
- Isolationism... again (1930s)
- Treaties and Trump (1960 - Present)
Why ? Educate me plz, educate me daddy 🤤
@@adammaxwell-timmins9564 Jesus Christ that's a lot
@@sleepyguy6201 Not really, countries and people change over the centuries.
“America has no permanent friends or enemies, only interests”
― Henry Kissinger
Should be noted that Kissinger wasnt the first to say this, the quote actually comes from the French President and WW2 hero, Charles de Gaulle
Sad but I reckon it is true.
Same with any other Country, hence China.
I think that was the intention of the founding fathers of the US. To not make permanent alliances anyway.
literally every country is like that
Can we just take a moment and appreciate the work and effort put into this video.
When you get paid to do it. It's kind of not that impressive.
@@luxembourgishempire2826 Some people are paid a whole lot more for less.
no
South Korea: *Highest spending ally*
Trump: NOT ENOUGH
Iceland: YEET
lol hes saying that because all of them need to spend at least 10 billion!
@@LuhOvert lol that is like 20% of some of the countries’ GDP. I see why he like North Korea now
Iceland is too busy defeating the UK in wars over fishing rights.
😂
@Robust Misconcepiton they don’t even have an army
Yeah, Japan siding with China is like saying South Korea will get close to North Korea.
How is that impossible? Japanese economy never recovered from the crisis and China is the biggest market for everything and it's right next door.
yea lol
@@proboxpepper6752 economy yes but the people says no. Just look at the Japanese poll...Japanese people has a exceptionally unfavourable attitude towards China
@@oreki4746 People's favors don't matter in this case.
Considering Japan's prime minister Shinzo Abe has been pictured in a jet with the numbers "731" (unit 731) and following Abe's visits to the Yasukuni Shrine... Yeah, I doubt Japan is siding with China over the US anytime soon. Not to say they won't become closer since both nations have tried to move on from past conflicts, but Japan is still very close with America and still have a very long way to go before they are close with China.
I think Japan is working more against China to be honest.
Agree
Thats true as u can see the QUAD group
you would be surprised how bad relations are between japan and china I would not be surprised if skirmish's between then would happen like on the Indian border.
@@timothyoneill6664 I mean it’s pretty hard to have border skirmishes with an island
This this the most ignorant part of the video, of course ignoring all the terrible maps
"The Baltic States"
Everyone who has played Plague Inc: ah yes I know those well
me who's FROM a baltic state: **laughter**
Did you mean "Plague Inc"?
@@DansuB4nsu03 oop I most definitely did. Gonna edit that now, thank you! 😄
It's rare for vox to say 'trump had a point' ahaha
u gotta give credit when due
They're just reporting factually. He rarely says anything true or does anything good, so when he does, it's an occasion to celebrate.
Well, while Trump actually spoke factually (for once), the thing he's not smart enough to understand is, which country benefitted the MOST from the NATO alliance? Which country now (since NATO formed) had hundreds of bases and troops all over the world protecting it's own trade and political interests? USA, of course....and weakening NATO ties with Europe and Asia these last four years has only helped it's main rivals (namely China and Russia) gain a significantly better competitive edge against USA (yeah USA is still top, but this helped said rivals gain ground)....Trump's foreign policy (and pointing the finger at America's allies, even if they weren't spending as much as was agreed to) did NOT make America stronger, it made it weaker.
Broken clocks are right twice a day.
**smacks leg** hahaha it's rare that any people with brain to say "trump had a point"
"alone until 1941", you guys skipped over a lot here.
It’s a 10mn video they’re not gonna cover all US history
@@strider7273 ^I agree with him, just a quick explanation about why its not related to the point of the video is all that's needed.
@@strider7273 Well I would think that at least the second-largest war in human history should have made the cut.
@@StoneX24 ok I'll explain. Any foreign intervention before that was temporary and nearly all americans wanted and voted for isolationism whenever they could until pearl harbor
alone, without permanent allies. Its true.
So nice of America to keep democracy by helping to creat military dictatorships in latin america
Democracy?
US indeed has help creating military dictatorships if the situation demands its. But US is also cleary more prefareble to help democratic factions if there was a choice. And I think deep down you knew that if China and Russia replaced the role of US, there would be far far more authoritarianism on this planet.
to be fair they got oil down there... so it's not like the US had a choice to "get them some democracy".
@@alexlaza5301 even with the us the world is on fire ignited by the us. The us is responsible for subjugating more than 100 democratic government
It somehow saved us, socialist government intervention was destroying our little and insignificant economies.
5:37 correction they didn't bomb only Serbian forces, they mostly bombed innocent people across the country that had nothing to do with the war.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how much quality in graphics is put into these videos?
Well done Vox team!
yeah,, i pretty much read about NATO and US's allies but i didn't understand much compared to how this video made things so clear and simple
They are liberal
Agree to that! The skill that Vox team is doing to portray topics with modern visuals as much as possible is astonishing!
They didn’t do proper research, discredited the impact of WW1 and other deals the US had during the 19th - 20th century, and made hideous accusations without convincing evidence?
How much is Biden paying you, Vox?
@@red_amoguss may I ask what exactly? Dont get me wrong, they should've at least mentioned a few things but I cant think of anything that is a big enough deal to completely discredit the point of the video.
Honestly as a French person I really want France and other European countries to stop relying on America just because of military force
You can't escape (At least easily) US is deep into Europe since you guys agreed to the Marshall Plan.
I agree; If it wasn't for the US you would be speaking German. All europeans do is criticize the US even though they are heavily reliant on the United States.
Mathew is right, and without America bombing Japan, Australians would be speaking Japanese because little know fact: japan tried to take out Australia too. We were hit more and harder than pearl harbour
@@matthewoconnor3376 And without France and Spain Americans would still be under English rule.
@@matthewoconnor3376 well no, in WW2 likely but in WW1 we would have actually won without the US however it would have taken likely longer to do so but we still would have won.
US also wasn’t the whole reason the allies won those wars, your essentially downplaying every countries efforts in the war by saying US is the reason Europe isn’t speaking German.
Yes US was a big help, especially in WW2 yet saying that makes it sound like US is the ONLY reason the allies won, which is not true and its massively insulting to us and to the other countries that lost thousands/millions of people defending against the other countries.
1:31
So, are we just going to ignore *Canada, Australia, India, South Africa, New Zealand, Poland, Brazil, Mexico, Ethiopia and all the other countries* who also fought in the war?
There are 8 or nine reasons that say no.
@ClickNSpam Over 87,000 Indian soldiers and 3 million Indian civilians died in World War II. Field Marshal Sir Claude Auchinleck, Commander-in-Chief, India, asserted the British "couldn't have come through both wars [World War I and II] if they hadn't had the Indian Army."
@ClickNSpam not only did we play a majorly significant role in winning Dunkirk, you are also forgetting the Japanese front.
India was made to jump into the war. We had no wish to fight a European war. That could be said for Australia Ethiopia New Zealand etc who were made to fight by the European powers.
What about China? Who has fought Japan for 14 years with more than 20 million people died.
7:19 As someone who lives in the baltics, those tanks look really big and scary.
I feel like they glossed over the First World War.
I reckon that’s mostly because WWI was an exception to the rule of American foreign policy, and a temporary one at that, with the US retreating from interventionism pretty much immediately afterwards.
oh i didnt realise this video was about the world wars
And the Spanish wars
Because NATO was established after WW2, not WW1? Also America didn’t have attacks on their own soil during WW1.
"The next 150 years, America was alone .. until 1941" this is just not correct. The US helped the allies in WW1 first by goods supply and later by taking the decisive decision to enter the war. This was not a neutral position.
"The US has no allies just interests"
-Henry Kissinger
I believe it was Lord Palmerston who first said that.
Then why did it help with ww2?
Funding south korea isnt beneficial at all
tbh all countries r like that
He wasn't the first but like those who made this claim before him, he was also right.
2:55 forgot to mention how the US backed dictatorial regimes all over Latin America, it was much more than a treaty bruh
Whhaaaat? You no like 'Merica Freedom???
yeah man, they "forgot" to mention Spain and Philippines as well.
@@invisible-heroes They video was made for a specific topic. Obviously they can’t cover everything in 12 minutes
its not the topic of the video so why would they mention it
Pinochet regime has entered the chat...
As a Filipino, U.S.A. must have to find a way to show their trust to us. Our president might be planning to stop our alliances to the U.S.A. Sana matugunan niyan
@@RainSkyy7239 its cause if they dont itll affect other us allies trust to the us and to contain china through the first island chain
True that
Oy kabayan
Wala naman kasing ginawa yung US sa spratly island eh nung pinagkainteresan ng China MORE THAN A DECADE ago. It was part of both countries agreement (US-PH) same with (Japan-US) na kapag may bansang nag invade eh dedepensahan ng US at vice versa pero feeling ko arm personnel naman ambag ng Pinas kung sakaling may nag invade sa US. Sabi nga nila PANGAKONG NAPAKO yung nangyari sa sitwasyon sa West Philippine Sea.
@@Ymats-dj1nt The US conduct navy exercises in the West Philippine Sea together with EU countries, Australia is also doing its part. And to tell you, Its not just average military ships, but actually one of the big guns of the US and Britain.
Can we talk for a second about how radically the point of view for America has changed ... we are talking about the USA , a country that invested so much in good appearance, where everyone in the world knew about the American dream .... and now the whole world is appalled by what’s happening there , we are starting to see through the cracks of the so called American dream
@Maru Govinda I’m not even from America dude , just stating facts
people are nitpicking at america because a lot of the words pop culture and politics revolves around them
@@mctev nitpicking? So Americans recent riots, the guns crime and heath care, trumps your president, so is just "nitpicking" when people from other countries just point it out and go hey, maybe US isn't as "great" as Americans like to think? I accept my countries flaws, yet to me and others, it feels like americans have issues accepting their own countries flaws.
@@pipercharms7374 everyone knows the u.s. has flaws but they’re extremely exaggerated by ppl. why doesn’t anyone talk abt the conflict with muslims in france and europe and the terrorist attacks as much as they do with america’s problems? or how canada treats their natives? “america is a third world country with a gucci belt 🤪”. i commented to say that ppl just nitpick on america bc they’re the superpower of the world. all i’m saying is that america isn’t all that bad but they do have their problems.
They call it the American Dream because you gotta be asleep to believe it
I would like to point out that a permanent alliance was not somenthing never done before, Portugal and England have been allies for over 600 years. Yes the general rule was to ally in a war to war basis but there were exceptions.
ANZACS from ww1 onwards too, to the point that the "army corps" part of that acronym has become obsolete, both countries evacuating each other's citizens during covid, co-ordinating responses, sitting in on each other's government's confidential cabinet meetings etc.
Pretty sure Scandinavia would have a similar history too & many others, I mean even the UK, what's that exactly if not a permanent, super strong alliance between 4 countries?
Its not talking of that kind of permanent alliance. Its talking of a new kind of paradigm for the international relations, alliances in regards of universalism values, a quintessential american introduction to the international relations. That Wilson proposed at first, but wasn't implemented till the WWII. What the video is talking about it the other kind of alliances that were the norm in Europe and the world in general before, the alliances based on raison d etat, on the national interest of the moment. That's why when you see the wars of the XIXth century alliances are really shortlasting and interchangable according to the next national interest. Read Diplomacy -Kissinger for more info.
And Portugal and Uk was AN EXCEPTION, not the norm.
Actually the whole HRE was a alliance, not a good one, but it was one.
@@Ghreinos no it wasn't in any form.
@@kilougi it was Oldenburg was over centuries ally to Brandenburg/Prussia, the turingian states were allies with saxony, Bavaria, Baden and Württemberg were over centuries allies with Austria. The Roman states in the HRE were allies and there were many other alliances between states in the HRE witch lasted over centuries.
"The idea of using alliances to stop wars was new." Ummm, no it wasn't. It was tried in the early 1900s and failed miserably and ultimately led to the Great War.
Inter connected alliances is actually what caused WWI in the first place lol
@@anonymoushy7815 that what made the war so complicated, but the reason it was so massive was because of alliances.
It goes much much much farther than that.
I think the nukes of the modern day might make the alliance system of the 1900s much worse
Also the Treaty of London in 1518.
This is just like two kids facing each other to see who becomes the popular kid in school.
I’ve never seen two kids try to be more popular than the other in highschool but I get ur point
Alaska: "am I still in the Union?"
Poor guys aren’t even politically organized according to vox XD
@@TheGhostOf2020 ikr
Only since 1959 or in this video from 2:55
@@Anno_Nymouse Make sense. Technically if you take "United States" at its face value, territories (and colonies) should not be colored. However, I do believe that the subtle exclusion of American territories and colonies from our historical discourses can make us forget about an important part of America's past and influence our judgments. It is highly plausible that everyone in America is well aware of the presence of American territories and colonies the course of American history, but the video makers can certainly hold themselves to a higher standard. No harm, no malice, only sincere hope that the video can deliver more nuances and uncover some of that collective consciousness. (If you see a future Vox video on "Why our maps do not show Alaska and Hawaii and the Philippines," you know why...lol)
no, in QAnon
This guy speaks like he’s in a PS4 party after his parents went to bed and doesn’t want to wake them up
Lol😂
His research is so well done that his parents should raise his curfew. ❤️
He's probably a spineless simp I'd wager.
Turkey: Hey US can I buy the patriot system?
USA: No.
Turkey: ok. Hey Russia can I buy the s400?
Russia: sure you can buddy!
USA: "OUR ALLIES HATES US!"
No we don’t say our allies hate us, we say they are freeloading off of our military and won’t spend a measly 2%
@@zakman9708 america will fall when europe is gone ;)
@@FaDezZ_ all we are asking is for u to pay the service ur getting
@@zakman9708 there is no need to spend on military, we spend it on things that actually matter. Like healthcare.
@@romanoum0465 okay heal your troops while getting invaded then.
3:46 the soviets didnt just build a wall for the reason that Nato wouldnt leave west berlin but because so many germans left the east for the west
And the fact that spies could easily cross into the east
I'm not American, but this made me a whole lot more interested in the 2020 Elections
And that is exactly why this video served its purpose well.
America is the world superpower. We're the only reason the world isn't at war killing each other right now
@@strangedogthatisslightlyan7860 that is probably true but the USA also started a lot of conflicts that didn't have to exist...
Even if your not American, the American president is the most influential leader in the world
ahh ahh nuclear weapons
Interesting to see Joe Biden. Back in the day.
Right!? I almost didn’t recognize him.
@@Jazjeffla Exactly, he's 77 now, I had to look it up, probably was in his 50s back then.
@@A7XKoRnRocks1 Biden has been in office since 1972. He was 29 years old when he was first elected.
The man breaths Politics, His whole life.
@@Jazjeffla These people were 20/30 year olds when they entered office and it didn't magically fix the problems. Putting more 20/30 year olds in office won't fix problems this time around either. I rather a range of all ages of qualified people who care about the country as a whole. Get the ones not doing their job out, but ageism isn't the answer.
Defensive alliances have been around for hundreds of years. It's not a uniquely American thing invented after world war 2
@Pratik Pokharel Triple Entente
Kind of right, kind of wrong. Its like they say in the video. Historic alliances were about spesific wars. No alliance in history comes close to the size, power and importance than that of Nato. So actually yes, it is a unique thing invented after WW2.
I think what is new isnt just a guarantee of neutrality or mutual defense but an enforcement of a global economic system
Like jazz, listen to the notes not being played: US led capitalism
@@Christian_TH lol wat, Antente and Central Powers before WW1 same idea, but we had WW1, UK and France(by the time like 70% of all world’s territory) had the same idea before WW2, but we had WW2
Americans definitely aren’t the ones the invent the idea, but the ones that succeeded in implementing it
Thanks god some countries instead choose to non align with these pacts like the Non Alignment moment, it proves that there is a way to be independent and safe
Under Biden, we did in fact just rejoin the Paris climate deal.
What's that?
@@chris-noelkachi1696 - A deal that bankrupts the USA and its taxpayers. It's the "Paris Climate Accord."
@@chris-noelkachi1696 It's a deal where every country in the agreement keeps their emissions of carbon dioxide and other stuff harmfull to the environment down below a certain %. Basically, it's a long term plan to slow the climate change. Very important in my opinion for our future generations!
@@TheNardDog1996 oh okay, thanks
@Christian Riise Laursen Probably Donald Trump.
“The United States was alone until World War 2” *League of Nations slowly weeps in the corner*
League of Nations was basically useless
US wasn't in the League of Nations
@Xen never claimed it to be ;)
@@cake. I honestly didn’t know about this. I knew Woodrow Wilson founded it, hence I kind of just assumed we were in it because that makes logical sense but hey gotta love isolationism :)
Ineffective!
I never thought about the alliances like being a border to stop opposing countries.
they have some top notch visuals
That's how diplomacy works. That is how shrewd and interlinked all nations are. There isn't something as an algebraic expression, as everything has indirect tertiary consequences that require much knowledge and experience to foresee.
Experience which the current president has none of. All he knows is how to run a hotel chain, which he probably delegates the majority of the decision making for anyways.
That’s the whole point 🙄
The famous "Iron Curtain" across Europe is what we're often taught about in the UK as a good example of that
Don't feel bad, neither did Trump I guess
Anyone who mentions how “America is spreading democracy and freedom”, without also mentioning all the coups that established authoritarian leaders, especially in Latin America, is a person I immediately lose trust in
Not just Latin America. In the Middle East, US and allies still support those head choppers and help them stay in power by oppressing people uprisings such as in Egypt, Yemen or Bahrain.
Yes, and with all the 'democracy and freedom wars' that were actually 'Oil wars' I question who is really the US when the 'good' is actually 'evil'
And Australia. A so-called “ally”. American interventionism is a cancer on the world and as an Australian I think we should definitely be careful about going into any more wars with such a country. After the US interferes in our politics they ask for our support in war. Too many times we’ve gone into Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. For what?
Us has been distabilizing Africa for centuries.
America deposes democratically-elected governments to install dictators for the sake of democracy...right?
As a turkish person this video made me realize that Russia is just teasing with america using Turkey. Thanks for the video, it made me see things in a bigger perspective.
hello neighbor🇮🇶👋
that sounded kinda weird
The us has always hated turkey,to this day they've supported Greece against turkey, turkey wants old glories back,the us wants to keep their NATO allies in check, Turkey is spiraling into recession,same as Australia and Britain,the us fell and got up quietly while their allies suffered
"The United States recognizes and welcomes the emergence of a free, independent, and democratic Russia."
Well, that was a poor prediction on a hindsight.
I think it was more of a public statement about what they wanted to happen. Like "be a democracy or it's back to the cold war for us all"
😭
It wasn't a prediction it was a farce, they knew the subsequent economic and political turmoil Russia would endure, but they didn't anticipate the extent to which it would compromise their interests.
Sometimes I wonder if it will really take an alien invasion to pull everyone together
Yes, similar to a common enemy like a global virus outbreak.
I doubt it. Some people are just too tribal to ever "band together" against a threat. We'd still eat each other
@@lowenzahn3976 are you sure about that? Lol
No, Trump would make a it contest.
Honestly yes. Humans are historically the most territorial creatures on Earth, so it's not surprising anymore
Shout out to whoever made the motion graphics on this. Awesome work, as always!
Russias back boys, NATO’s got its purpose back.
America (Trump): Hey Japan, you should spend more on your Military:
Japan: *Visible Confusion* Constitution doesn’t allow for a Military and only a small defence force is allowed.
America (Trump): Yeah but we’re losing money defending you.
Japan: 👁👄👁 You literally forced us to write that in our constitution after WWII saying that America will protect Japan instead 😂
Considering how Japan currently has one of the biggest military "defense force" in the region, this whole bit is funny.
According to Constitution, Japan cannot invade other country and for defense they already have USA..
It's win-win situation for JAPAN
There were legal ways to go around it, which Japan did use.
@@ranvijaykumar8961 Not really win-win cause if they are invaded while the us is unable to act quick enough then bad end.
@@kentakei7052 Are they now?
"For hundreds of years, alliances had been used to fight and win specific wars. This was something new"
The Concert of Europe: *Hey*
Apparently US history starts at WWII...so we forget about the late 19th century-WWI era.
@@mattbowdenuh i know, they say as if every one military is weak also
@@mattbowdenuh Forgot the XI century to the XVII and before like 😂😂
@@mattbowdenuh Or the american fight for independence where France saved them from Britain despite not even half of the us colonists caring.
And then again in the civil war where Lincoln managed to end the war and wanted to help the south, but was killed.
@@mattbowdenuh they didnt keep those alliances
"All allies looking at one direction"
The prime minister of Portugal be like ;-;
(One top right corner) 0:15
Fr they prolly looking at a TV or sum and my homie Donny T checkin out the cool airplanes
CARALHO...
@@ruicorreia6373 mas porque é que não estou impressionado
i was hoping they'd say what they're looking at....
He really said \👀_\
as a Dutch person I dont even understand this whole discussion about how the NATO.. Trump was spot on; all NATO members signed a treaty that we would spend 2% GDP on our military. For decades most NATO countries completely ignored this but profited from being NATO member. I totally understand that Trump held us accountable for not abiding the contract for years. If only the US keep their end of the bargain; the NATO will lose its power. I wouldnt vote for Trump, but in this case; he couldnt have been more rational
China and Russia are playing chess, we’re playing Go Fish.
xD
I think your president is even playing golf! :D
They aren't playing chess they are making aggressive out lashes because their populations are aging and their economies are stagnating and declining this is the only opportunity they have to solidify their futures and make aggressive actions. If they were actually playing chess they would use agreements similar to what the french have in africa where all african currency must go through the french national bank.
@François Miville pokemon go?
@@pigman-nl7fg People have been saying China's economy is stagnating and declining for over a decade now. They've been stagnating and declining so much that they became the world's second largest economy LOL
Thank you US for creating a coup and then a military dictatorship in my country, I'll be forever grateful
*freedom treatment*
Spreading pinochets
Vox is making free ad for imperialism
You are welcome
Where are u from if I can know ?
Vox: The idea of nations allying to prevent war was new.
Triple Entente: Are we a joke to you?
5th Century BC Delian League and Peloponnesian Leagues: Are we a joke to you?
Yeah I hate how they make it seem like America is the great and mighty first of everything. People have been allying without a specific war for thousands of years. The Egyptians and Hittites. The Delian League. The Pax Romana/Deorum. It was only during the medieval ages when that point stands but even then there were allies who specifically allied for trade and communal support.
that’s what i’m saying🤣😭 they really simplied things way too far
Of course it that case it failed, horribly. The US's attempt was reasonably successful.
@kie America is the most powerful and richest but it isn’t the best country in the world. If you define the best county as rich and powerful your shallow and short minded.
Correction: In WW2, USA declared war on Japan but Germany and Italy is the one who declared war on USA.
Rommel?
Even if it wasn't official, Pearl harbor was 100% a declaration of war, stop nitpicking.
What? Japan formally declared war to USA. But the message of declaration didn't arrived to Pearl Harbour fast enough. Resulted in the crew not prepared at all
@@Blanksmithy123 What's wrong with me saying it again
@@rikkowastaken oh lol I thought u were responding to me cuz it showed up in my notifs... my bad
Did they really skip over the league of nations after WW1 and Woodrow Wilson
Yep, they skipped it.
The league of nations failed. NATO succeeded.
It’s a Democratic news source ofc they don’t know history
how is the LON relevant? it blatantly failed thats why it doesnt exist anymore.
@@erinmunsayaclynch7740 but it was the first organisation that was an allied forces designed to prevent war, in some cases I'd say that the UN failed as well due to the security council and the veto powers
The lack of any acknowledgement of either the Spanish-American War or WW1 is rather distracting.
yeah, this video completely pretends that foreign relations between the US and other countries existed prior to WWII, which is ridiculous.
I'm no expert butthis seems like a DRSTIC reframing of reasons behind ameerica doing things tbh. just seemd to make america seem like a savior
Vox is very left wing, it isn't suprising they'd "forget" to mention critical pieces of evidence which would invalidate their Democrats are good Republicans are bad narrative.
Thank you!
Exactly!
Long ago, the US was protected by oceans,
But then, everything changed when Japan attacked
And what about North Korea?
@Ben997 so North Korea is the the evil earth woman’s army?
@@farahanshaik8860 according to Churchill, it would be what we would call "The Soft Underbelly"
Uk: Sad
@Ben997 I was talking to stew boy Craige, u wouldn’t get the reference
"an empire no matter how big,will one day fall"
@e93 but they were successful hiding one in the 1900s
@e93 it's there, you just can't see it.
@Afonso it is
@@instantinople3796 then it’s not an empire, genius
What is so difficult to comprehend? To have an empire you have to govern the territories you claim. Even Puerto Rico picks it’s own governor. A literal US overseas territory still has more independence than European colonies of the past.
Contrary to popular belief, the USA has already attempted colonialism, and its greatest extent was in WW2 before decolonisation. So unless you’re referring to that, don’t bother
No discussion on the United States' closest ally: Canada.
I agree with you, but if I were to hazard a guess it's because our situation is different being on the same continent as the USA as opposed to someone like S. Korea, or a European country. Yes there are economic issues that will affect trade but militarily wise, Canada and the USA are still close. I want to say to prove it (but please Google to confirm I'm right) the USA still permits Canadian officers to command American troops in combat operations where they are working together. Despite rhetoric and economic strains military wise (the purpose of the video) the situation is not screamingly different
Its because even if NATO fully collapses, Canada and the US would likely still be allies in one form or another, purely based on geography and having very similar culture. What's more concerning is European and Asian powers turning away from North America and looking to China as the economic center of the world.
Closest by proximity?
Second-closest. Israel is Numero Uno.
thats just sad
Your historical overview of US foreign policy is oversimplified and overlooked many things. One example is the Berlin Wall. It was more about preventing a loss of people from East Germany rather than backing off from the US.
How deep do you want 11:30 min TH-cam videos to go?
@@PoiarNoia It used about 2 minutes going through US foreign policy, that is more than enough to mention to clarify a few things. And the point about the Berlin Wall was just outright not accurate which overlooked the context in East Germany.
well can't a wall serve two purposes at once? One purpose for the German democratic republic and one for the Soviet Union.
"You over-simplified your foreign policy overview" *proceeds to focus in on one specific detail and further oversimplifies instead of expanding on the point* LOL also, the point of an overview is to give the main points, which he did. He delved much further into it than you did, that's for sure lol
Exactly
If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together.
Well, we can’t really go that far when the people we support don’t spend nearly as much effort supporting themselves, can we? It’s not sustainable, especially if we want to go far.
@@oracle7858 It's true but if you looked at the military spending chart and combined all those countries' spending they'd definitely be someone we want to keep close.
Awesomely said. You are genious! It would be a pleasure ro meet you sir! Can you send me 1999 dollars that i can book a plane and visit you. Its an honor
“NATO has no reason to exist”, so what happened on February 24 2022
It is the reason this war exists NATO creates wars not prevent them.
@@User_J9000 so you're saying NATO started the war on Ukraine?
@@User_J9000 Gotta love victim blaming; as if NATO forced Russia to invade.
@@stephenjenkins7971 Yes they did, if some thugs/ gang are surrounding you wouldn't you feel threatened and fight back.
@@User_J9000 Don't the gangster Putin will be tried for warcrimes.
"we would never abandon our allies"
South Vietnam, Kurds : 👁👄👁
you forgot the taliban, trained by the cia
@@joaoyapur1247 it is much worse, a betrayal
South Korea
You thing kurds were USA allie? Or it Turkey? Turkey ego wannt back old ottamans Empire?
@@joaoyapur1247 The Taliban where not US allies. They where tools.
"Presented by ABSOLUT."
Because EVERYONE needs a drink after these elections!
@@akaZitaB I'm in asia and even I need a drink.
RUSSIAN VODKA!
@@52ponybike Swedish vodka
@@52ponybike yes comrade
Love the lack of comment on the specific and systematic commitment Australia has had to the US foreign agenda, but even referring to the relationship to be "harder to justify." Where Australia has been the most supportive of allies, eg. foreign wars (Vietnam, Korea, Afganistan, etc) United Nations support and even providing economic support for foreign neighbours to bring them into the United States safety net. Shows the true lack of appreciation on all sides of The United States for our support.
P.s. Honestly shaken my opinion of the US.
Australia is biggest country to suffer from the problem of being an Island. Being an Island means they are always going to be surrounded by the maritime power (the US and before that UK) . Australia will always have to bend towards the country that surrounds it. Australia has been involved in every single America war and their allyship gets overlooked because its never questioned. Just look at all the attention the PH is getting because its questioning the alliance.
However we are tired of taking your problems and making them ours. Every time a regional enemy does something to our ally WE have to take the political backlash and spend our political clout. When Australia asked the UN to investigate China for Covid, there were many Australian politicians upset that the USA didn't do it so that they could avoid the political backlash that would come from China.
cry more
Not just australia. Many americans seem oblivious to the commitments their allies make, and the context in which they make them.
@@earldonavon110 The questioning of Australia in UN was a pretty bold move. I being an Indian is in complete awe about the bravery of Australia in countering China. Hope so Indo-Australia Alliance Grow further in time as we have a lot of shared interests and a common democracy
@@deccno True. That commitment can't just be measured in dollars alone. Focusing on that, US pundits won't see local opportunities those allies are sacrificing in order to keep the alliance, such as regional political clout, regional trade and collaborative development opportunities, or having to suppress their own domestic growth and industrial base in order to "opt" into preferential imports from American companies and hand-me-down military hardware like Desert-Storm surplus Abrams.
“A nation can’t remain great if it betrays its allies and lets down its friends”
*America let’s down Britain with the Suez crisis, breaks its promise to share its nuclear research after Britain shared its research and ignores Britain’s offer for help and advice with the Vietnam war*
Sure is doing a good job with its ‘special relationship’ with Britain 👏
The most recent event you mentioned was from the 1960s bruh. Talk about living in the past.
@@kobetakemura5179 Past has Consequences in the grand scheme of history...
@@stevonwhite8933 Yes it does. But the present and the immediate past is what dictates our world now. No one is using small policy disagreements from literally half a century ago to dictate modern global politics and thinking that to be the case presents a warped view of the world.
Britain needs to stop being America's B***h!
we turned our n backs on the uk for telling you not to colonize other countries
As an active duty officer in the Korean military, I am keenly watching this election, exactly for this reason.
I love this video, well made.
What’s your opinion
Which Korea
In my view, it's important for South Korea (and Japan) to implement nuclear capability. That way, they'll have better control of their sovereignty. Both have the economic and technical capability to do it.
The US is using South Korea and Japan for its own interest under the pretext of 'providing security', but that's actually making it less safe for South Korea and Japan, because in the event of a clash between USA and North Korea or/and China, South Korea and Japan may become the target simply due to them acting as enablers and launch bases for USA.
Taking their security in their own hands through MAD will give South Korea and Japan a lot of flexibility in negotiating the best economic and strategic policies for themselves without being dictated by / asking permission from the USA.
@@the80386 they can't. They can't beat China and Russia's military capability.
@@ryubullet9867 It's to deter an invasion. They can make nuclear weapons if they have nuclear capability.
As a Korean, this was one of the biggest concerns regarding the november election.
One comment you're a Korean. The next you're an American. I am unimpressed by your lies.
@@mindme7628 why? because my opinions don't fit your narrative?
@Mohammed Bokth Korean-American that lives in Korea, good enough?
@@kyh6767 so you repatriated to your ancestral country?
@@TheAmericanCatholic you show off your stupidity?
My take on the video:
1. It establishes that the US alliance system became somewhat obsolete after the collapse of USSR
2. It reaffirms that previous US leadership did not succeed at reforming that system so far
3. It mentions that other world powers - such as Russia and China - learned to go around and sidestep this alliance system, using various other forms of power projection, making it ineffective
4. It proves this system is - in general - expensive to maintain.
Then it mentions that there are two candidates:
- one who did not yet attempt to reform the system even though he was in various public functions for years (Biden)
- the other one who views the system negatively and is willing to alter or remove it, but seems to lack a good, coherent replacement plan (Trump).
That is my Eastern European perspective - Biden wants to preserve the outdated system, Trump wants to dismantle it, neither seems to have a clear vision of a better system.
Probably the best and most fair assessment of this whole video. I do believe that Trump is correct that current alliances are unfair to the US, but Russia and China do need to be checked. With that said, nowadays it's really just a big stick arms race, slapping a few small neighbors here and there. Everyone knows that there will be no winner of WWIII.
personally I say trump is the best candidate, he is willing to stand up against Russia and China, (the Chinese trade wars as a example.) but I do know his outlook is flawed. But it’s the best we have currently.
Putin's aggression has proven the need for a stronger, more robust NATO. Containment of a nation that wants to bring back annexation of land by force needs a strong response. There is a reason Putin put so much effort in getting Trump into office, as he blamed Hillary Clinton personally for Ukraine demanding its pro Russian autocrat to leave.
That is true. Mainly bacause US is slow to realize that the nature of the threat has changed dramatically. The wars are no longer about land and cyber threats are becoming more and more serious as more and more systems operate in the Internet.
On one hand, this makes alliences even more important, because on the internet every country is your neighbor. On the other hand existing alliances are equally outdated, because f-19 won't stop the cyber attack.
@Praxis Alba It wasn't a US coup. Who tells you this stuff? The general population accused a strongman of corruption and rigged elections, chased him off to Russia, and then put a democratically elected leader in charge.
The US gained nothing from this, imperialism is based around controlling land and peoples, and the US president can even get Ukraine to publicly discredit his political foes in return for gifs of weapons to fight an invasion from Russia.
Russia is obsessed with a siege mentality narrative, something that goes back to the Tsars. They may span 11 time zones, but they constantly say they are in danger of invasion. Putin uses the threats of "Western Imperialism" or even just "Western Culture" (specifically feminism and tolerance of homosexuality,) to distract the population of their precarious economic situation and authoritarian government. Russia has threatened Sweden over a island Sweden seized it back from a Russian force that had claimed it in 1808. Russia's neighbors are mostly terrified of them, it's one of the reasons they want allies to protect them.
This one video answers a lot of questions today.
I wish the quality of the research matched the quality of the graphics and production...
a lot of feelings and storytell narration relying on production quality over research quality
Ik right😂
@Hé Lojueë can you explain please
@Hé Lojueë they didn't really say trump had a thing in it, like japan not meeting it's requirement. But I'd love to know why, do you know?
The idea that alliances being used as preventative measures being pioneered by the USA after ww2 is...questionable. Have we ever heard of the concert of Europe? WWI?
"Alliances were primarily built to win wars." Tell me, did those alliances eventually lead to war? So I guess the preventative measure either didn't work or wasn't the intent.
"Mostly" not always
Yea european powers did that, but it resulted in ww1
America is #1, you better listen and listen well, or else democracy comes to your country jajajaja
@Slim Pickens Same reason as , if someone asks for or needs a coat or something, you lend them yours. Helping someone out. Also most of eastern europe (depending on which countries you include) are pretty similar in most respects to western europe and north america. And, as was mentioned in the video, keeping russia from interfering and expanding influence.
america wasn’t isolated until 1941
did vox ever hear about world war 1 or the eight nation alliance against china?
Did US get invaded in the WWI?..
@@ayapotato7429 did the U.K.?
@@gorthsleeperofwomen900 Don't think so. That is kinda the point of the video though, isolated geography made it easier to stay out of direct war threats, less so for UK, more so for US.
Yes, but the point is in WW1, they were mainly involved because of US ships being sunk around the British Isles, due to German U-Boats and Russia leaving the war. In WW2, they were genuinely attacked by Japan and Hitler declared war. Plus, they were isolated, in terms of development and growth. The US purposely isolated themselves to develop and grow, they didn't want to get involved in anything. Until they had to.
@Bhanu Singh Don't take offence man, I don't hate US =) My understanding of what Vox said was "US didn't feel threatened enough to build alliances before 1941; and that was because of the geography". Of course the country did fight plenty of in wars, it just wasn't threatened. I think Master missed the point the video was making.
I’ve started to see the US as the police. It’s not great but who else is there. Without the US, other countries with big ambitions who feels entitled to take more than their fair share will start acting upon their urges without much retaliation or consequences. For example, China is already trying to take the South China Sea, which many other neighboring countries relies upon for fishery plus theres studies showing a surmountable amount of oil in and around there. Most neighboring countries around China can be considered third world, and most of them have ties with the US to help them deter China from taking over. Another current example is with Russia feeling entitled to take over Ukrainian and surrounding countries. Without the US or other NATO countries, Ukraine wouldn’t have enough guns or intel to fight Russia off. The US is by no means perfect but they’re good enough to have around. Everyone has to understand that what affects other countries will also affect the US be it from trading, imports, alliances, or other. No country can thrive or even sustain itself without help from others, North Korea is a testament to that. No one else has enough military power to police others like the US, and if the US allows for no consequence then bigger countries will just help themselves and take what they want until they get so big and ambitious that they’d also dare to take from the US. Meanwhile the US will for sure be suffering because trade deals won’t be as strong without alliance, Russia is another example of what can happen when other countries or businesses stop servicing you. People are insatiable, they can never be satisfied with what they have. *written on October 2022
How on earth did the Vox reporter say : "had any army at all", in a lineup that included France and the UK at the time ?
2 of the biggest militaries in the world...
Europe's militaries are shadows of their former selves. Except for poland and turkey.
With two independent nuclear deterrents, this video was a joke.
Did you even listen to what he said Carl? UK and France had weaker armies after ww2, and Iceland don't have an army.
@@isaks7042 Define "weak". The French and The British were still in the Top 5 of the biggest armys.
@The Real Slim Shady Nowadays or in 45 ?
I feel like NATO has been pushed under the rug a little. I'm British, so I'm unsure of the American point of view. But I really feel like the EU should do something now, as if it's our time to shine. I feel like Europe could fill the boots of America as they isolate themselves, and Europe retakes their position as the primary pillar of world democracy.
@Nilly Sigger 🤣
@Nilly Sigger 2017 the EU had 68,5 Million refugees. I honestly don't know where your number is from. In the whole world we have 7,8 Billion people ( May 2020). That would mean that every seventh person is a refugee coming to Europe? XD
And the amount of refugees have nothing to do with system democracy or the wolrwide position and sovereignty of the EU.
When you can pass a budget stop orban and actually form a military get back to us
The EU should step up, instead of always looking for the US or China as support they should manage to come in a become more powerful, I’m more for a Eurocentric world than an American world and even less a Chinese one
@@christophesarraf3972 Eurocentrism was the dominant ideology for over 500 years until it came crashing down in WWII. Anything but them.
Nobody remembers the Morocco-US friendship deal
@@Xeretov the video said the US stood alone until world war, Morocco signed the friendship deal shortly after the US won the revolution
Why did they forget Morocco :(
@@shrekwithawillsmithface465 Poor Morocco nobody cares about him :(
No one cares for us TT
haha Morocco were the first to send US a friend request, immediately after they create their facebook account and before they were "instafamous"
I get the point of this video, but some things are largely exaggerated. Like in the graphic at 10:07 it shows south korea moving closer to China in terms of allies. Its a ridiculous notion, but because you didn't actually say it your not really accountable.