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The belief that Donald Trump actually won the 2020 US election is widespread among his most devoted followers. That belief rests on claims of massive voter fraud in the 2020 election that have never been substantiated. And in the 2022 elections, many “election deniers” ran for state-level offices that have direct control over elections, promising to limit access to voting if they won. Of all Republican nominees for election-administration positions this year, over half openly claimed that Trump won in 2020.
But when the election came, the most high-profile of those “election denier” nominees, many of whom were favored to win, actually lost. And the story of why many of them lost is actually the story of thousands of ordinary citizens using the tools of democracy to protect democracy.
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Someday soon cheap DNA printing will be a thing...right now anyone can get the complete genome of many devastating viruses online...it will only take one bad actor to manufacture an epidemic
How much money did joe Biden and the democrats give you in the past 10 years
Why did you put an age restriction on a movie called "116 images that aliens want to see"?
Why don’t you and vice just become one Company
At the end of the video it says there are over 3,000 voting districts in the U.S. That seems to be right by what I'm seeing online now. But in the past I tried to find that and somehow got the very different number of over 180,000 - which is apparently super wrong. Does anyone know what I might have been seeing and confusing with voting districts? (maybe polling locations?) Thanks!
Don’t let anyone tell you your vote doesn’t matter. If it didn’t, they wouldn’t work so hard to take it away
Noone has worked to take anything away lol. It's just that mail in ballots and ballot harvesting is a scam
@@Scar3cr0wwx except they aren’t. Mail in and absentee ballots are legal votes for anyone who’s unable to vote on Election Day and if you’re trying to get them tossed, then you’re throwing away ppl’s votes. Simple as that.
It’s not the vote that counts, it’s who counts the votes.
It’s pretty disgusting, no matter what party these people are horrible and shouldn’t be in politics.
@@2ruthfox82 And that process is very good and non corrupt in the US. So what's your argument? Oh, you don't have one? Got it!
“The votes were missing a handwritten date”
I guess the official DATED postmark is just decoration, then?
It is almost like someone was desperately looking for a reason to throw out ballots
When there is video evidence from inside a post office if a postmaster telling a worker to backdate ballots? Please. We've all misfiled paperwork. We've all had to go back and initial something we didn't read clearly. Until then the paper isn't legally valid. Neither should mail in ballots, as the signatured individual should have read all the instructions since they're skipping the line on voting day.
@@TheJadedJames
🎯 Yup.
you're not to bright I see. Think of when the mail was dropped off and how the USPS works.
@@s.rob.5482 what does that have to do with anything?
I'd like to remind everyone that those of us with major disabilities *need* mail in voting. An attack on mail in is an attack on some of our most vulnerable communities, and it has to be stopped.
not only disability community but also the elderly
i mean with how 2020 election just doing its thing
having an elderly there just oof
The gop doesn’t care about that, so they will try to end it. It is extremely scary.
Of course, the point of people like that in EVERY country (because we in Czechia have a similar discussion around voting from abroad right now) is to disenfranchise a group that you don't like for some reason (in case of Czechia it is clearly young educated professionals who are the most likely group to want to vote from abroad conveniently and those people don't vote for the left (we have different right and left than you guys have)).
Can't you people vote online?
@@CelabroSpace apparently that opens us up to the kind of hackers the pillow guy was "looking" for.
It's still extremely scary and disturbing how close those races were... We really need to go out and vote, people, if we still want to have the option to do it in the future.
if all the people who could vote but didn’t, actually voted, they could pick a completely different candidate, and that candidate would definitely win by a landslide
Mandatory voting would be the single piece of legislation with the greatest effect on the make-up of the US government.
@@daviddavidson6278 that would be wild. and some places do do this
I'm with you 100%.
@@onemorechris Sadly that's not the case, no one likes Biden while Trump has an almost scary cult-like following, chances are he wins this given how we only vote for Biden because we hate Trump but the people who vote Trump actually want him here
How does early in person voting cast doubt on elections? How people believe it does is beyond me.
As trump told them it does, and you can’t question the supreme leader
@@Andrew-ob5ij manipulation at it's finest. If they really want to stop mail in voting instead of really just wanting to discourage young voter turn out, they would open more polling places per person, removing all queues, rather than closing them, then stop mail in voting for all but the invalid.
The fact nobody is suggesting this shows their motive.
It's not about doubt the election, it's more about controlling it to get a favourable outcome. It's like when you play a game with friends, and they didn't like that you won so they invent a house rule to limit or prevent your win on the next round.
@@Andrew-ob5ij You can't control a cult
They usually give vague allegations that the longer a ballot is in a ballot box the more chance there is for generic "tampering" to happen. Which is obviously silly, because if someone could tamper with your votes there's absolutely nothing stopping them tampering with them in the several days after voting that it takes an election to be fully counted up anyway.
I think's it so weird that some US citizen think they live in "the best democracy in the world" while they are not even able to vote without difficulty.
Jesus man, edit that spelling
Uhhhhh what difficulty? This is why i assume y'all are racist bc yall think black people dont know how to vote
@@OrinBoborin the spelling police is out everybody… probably a Barry Hussain supporter c-face!
You Russian bro? C is not pronounced as s in English.
@@WilliamParkerer “c isn’t pronounced as s” the word citizen and democracy are literally in the comment lol
Imagine camping outside a ballot box all night wearing Kevlar armour just because you're scared people have different opinions from your own
@Zaydan Naufal wdym
@Zaydan Naufal the US doesn't do "e-voting" the internet is not secure enough for people to vote from their personal computers.
@@maolcogi obviously they meant e-voting as in using an electronic device to register your vote, which the majority of polling stations do.
All I see is fragile men and women.
@@Kevbot6000 still easily - more so than paper ballots- subject to corruption
Lake acts as though the Arizona Governors ballot was on a separate ballot from the other elections.
If Lake is not questioning the win of the other GOP candidates who were on the SAME BALLOT as she was, she needs to sit down and shut-up and accept her loss.
You’re just mad cause you can’t bag a woman as hot as she is. You settle for busted trolls like Hobbs hahaha
Surely you didn't expect her to use logic?
@@OBGynKenobi She would be screaming for the results to go in her way since the result went to Katie Hobbs who isn't a great candidate. She should have watched her big mouth. Her insult against the McCain faithful boosted the Democrats instead of the desired result she wanted.
The problem is they all think like that and then somehow convince the people that vote for them this. They are all devoid of logic
AMEN🙌🏽
I was a poll worker for the 2020 election in Wisconsin. I was 20 years old at the time, and I was mainly in a group of people way older than I was, they were shocked to see me doing poll work. None the less, it was brutal, even from being in a small town because absentee votes can't be opened until the Election Day voting begins. But, I am happy I did it once, and I may go again for 2024, even though I live in a different town
Yyyyeeahhh good job :)
Thank you for your service.
thank you so much for helping protect the integrity of our elections
same
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Due to fear of being harassed, I dropped off my mail-in ballot early in the morning, using an Uber, covering my face. I was still harassed by guys trying to learn how I voted, saying I was a mule, whatever.
It's annoying how prevalent that was.
That’s awful. I hope we can pass a law to make that kind of harassment extremely illegal.
Are you for real? True question. Details requested.
I kinda wish someone tried that when I went. They want to harass innocent people I'll do the same back
I reply with I'm not a mule, you are the only @$$ here.
@@fireant202 maybe not a law but openly discouraging them in public. Spreading awareness with sharing those stories on social media.
I live in a state with Univeral mail in voting. I love it, and think it's the easiest way to vote. No taking time off work, no standing in line for hours, I can take my time. Yet the GOP hates that because it allows me to think about who and what I'm voting for.
Idiocy
What state?
@@Jj_2723 why is that?
Which state?
@@Jj_2723 Overseas military personnel would firmly disagree.
I am always amazed that even in-person voting is such a hassle in the US compared to other western democracies. Here in the UK, I live in a crowded part of the south, but have never waited more than 5 minutes to cast my ballot. Same for my friends in France and Germany.
It's not normal to have to queue for hours to cast your ballot.
I live in Florida, I’ve never waited at all to vote either. The lies being spewed is disgusting
@@vcforchrist6621 Which lies are those?
German national living in Germany. I had to wait for 15 minutes or so. And the polling place is always near and accesible by foot.
Edit Somehow managed to forget the most imprtant part of context.
@@FranziskaNagel445 Ok. It seems I need to clarify: it is clearly a hassle in certain parts of the US. Not all parts.
@@Epicurus341 Australia does national elections the best, even better than the United Kingdom.
For starters, voting is compulsory, so the vote is not monopolised by more enthusiastic sections of society. Pre-polling is widely available 6 days a week, 2 weeks before election day. Every suburb and town will have at least one pre-poll station location. The election day is always on a Saturday, as having the election day during the week when everyone is working is truly idiotic. On the election day Saturday every suburb and town will have multiple voting locations, so the queuing wait times are always next to zero. Postal voting is readily available, with those pre-registered automatically receiving their ballot papers as soon as the election is announced for all elections.
The most important aspect to the election process is that the federal elections are solely administered by the federal Australian Election Commission, so all proceedings are conducted to a consistent and uniform federal standard.
The end result is that the Australian federal election to decide the members of parliament and Prime Minister is *never* in doubt.
Australians are truly appalled with how Americans conduct their presidential elections. It appears as though they are run by 5 year olds, voting for the kindergarten class captain.
I don't understand why voting is so difficult in the US. In Canada, it takes us less than 15 mins to vote. You're in and you're out, everything is accounted for and you have the option to mail in weeks before as long as your vote is received by election day.
Yeah, and there are so many places to vote as well. I've been walking through the mall or on a road trip with my friend when we spotted an early polling station and just cast my ballot. The only time I've needed an away ballot in Canada are civic elections because they're the ones that are harder to get to.
It’s pretty easy to understand why. Left wing issues (REAL left wing, not Democratic Party nonsense) are historically more likely to pass the more people who vote. If those issues pass, those in power will lose precious precious money.
It's so confusing I've voted in both the UK and Ireland and it's never taken me longer then 10mins
it is that easy where i live in the US,.. but there is one political party that wants to make it more difficult for specific areas of the population to vote so that they can suppress their votes.
Well, it's because one party doesn't actually believe in democracy so ofc they tried to make it harder to vote.
Funny republicans don’t question when they win.
Actually, they do. Kari Lake won an election and wanted a recount to make sure the election was secure.
@@FullyCharged22 Kari Lake lost her race in AZ
@@FullyCharged22 Were you not paying attention at 6:10? Kari lost. Google the results if you don't believe it.
@@Psythik This was a previous election. I expect democrats to be ignorant, but jeeze...
@@FullyCharged22 look, are you blind?
she lost. get over it
Seen from Europe, the American voting system is hilariously convoluted.
Because the republicans work for a very small but powerful minorty...the rich.
@@Spearca USA is nothing live the EU and viceversa.
@@Spearca Exactly. Not only do we have 50 elections going on at the same time, but we have nearly half the population of the entire continent of Europe, with 44+ countries. The American electoral system has a lot of problems, but it's not apples to apples to compare it to "Europe".
If Europeans care so much spend the time to learn about how voting developed in the United States. Really. Just learn the history of the United States instead laughing.
@@Spearca Europeans do not understand that.
People sitting out in camp suits in front of voting places? Isn’t that straight up coercion/threat? Did these people get sent to jail? Tell me they did
yes it is intimidation. and no they didn't go to jail. though it's possible they could one day.
that said, putting them in jail wouldn't solve anything. it would just convince the crazies that the "conspiracy" is real
not enough election deniers lost. It's sick.
Yeah a couple deniers won in my state
notice how they did not list the Democrat election deniers....
Where is your outrage when democrats deny election results?
Let me guess. you're solution is the final solution.
ANOTHER THAT APPROVES OF CHEATING
Most people learn to accept losing in a contest in elementary school.
Not in the US though where everyone gets a participation trophy
I didn’t, I was to ignorant. Why was that the case? Every American has been 100% ignorant at least once. But why is this.
AND WHEN THEY ARE CHEATED THEY FIGHT THE CORRUPTION IF THEY HAVE ANY BACKBONE & ARE NOT CHICKEN SH IT
There is nothing bad about early voting.
It means more young people and shift workers vote. They lean Democratic.
If it's before debates have taken place, you can argue you're not seeing the full picture
@@Daniboi971
People are allowed to make up their minds early
@@Daniboi971 I agree but I think the best solution would be to do the debates earlier
@@Daniboi971 who needs the debates? You should be interested in policy and voting record not theatrics.
Wow as someone watching from England I didn’t realise it was this bad with people hanging around voting places and intimidating people - America is supposed to be free. Stay strong man 🇺🇸
Republicans don't want freedom for anyone but rich, white men. That's always been the case, but it's become increasingly more evident that they want a plutocracy too.
The USA are a third world country in many aspects, not just concerning voting rights...
Australia does national elections the best, even better than the United Kingdom.
For starters, voting is compulsory, so the vote is not monopolised by more enthusiastic sections of society. Pre-polling is widely available 6 days a week, 2 weeks before election day. Every suburb and town will have at least one pre-poll station location. The election day is always on a Saturday, as having the election day during the week when everyone is working is truly idiotic. On the election day Saturday every suburb and town will have multiple voting locations, so the queuing wait times are always next to zero. Postal voting is readily available, with those pre-registered automatically receiving their ballot papers as soon as the election is announced for all elections.
The most important aspect to the election process is that the federal elections are solely administered by the federal Australian Election Commission, so all proceedings are conducted to a consistent and uniform federal standard.
The end result is that the Australian federal election to decide the members of parliament and Prime Minister is *never* in doubt.
Australians are truly appalled with how Americans conduct their presidential elections. It appears as though they are run by 5 year olds, voting for the kindergarten class captain.
THEY WERENT. THIS POST IS A LIE. IT IS ILLEGAL TO BE WITHIN 75 OF A POLLIING PLACE OR A DROP BOX. THERE WAS A MOVIE THAT CAME OUT IN MAY SHOWING ILLEGAL ACTIVITY AT DROP BOXES. REAL PATRIOTS WERE THEIR TO GET LICENSE PLATES, ETC TO REPORT THE CRIME.
@@user-kc1tf7zm3b but then Aussies get a new PM almost every year
I have a hard time understanding how someone in the US would actually think that limiting the options for voting in a democracy would be any good. It makes an already bad democracy even worse. I'm not from US and stuff like this seems so bizarre to me.
I feel like the Republican party doesn't want to have a democracy any longer, they just want to win.
republican's know they lose when people vote in large numbers. Pretty simple
Ummm??? You make no sense
Note: USA is a republic not a democracy
@@timbassett9132note: US is a country, not a republic
It’s a constitutional republic.
As an early 30s millennial, I went out and early voted in person because of these election deniers running for office.
I made a point to vote in person for the same reason. These people need to know the reason they lose isn’t because of voter fraud in mail ballots. It’s because the. Voters. Don’t. Like. Them.
They don't realize how much they inspire ppl to vote against them lol
I want to personally thank you for the inflation and the fact I’m paying double for gas 😃
You couldn't recite a constitutional amendment if you had 2 weeks and a sh it ton of coffee.
@@JBarnes917 Your IQ is in single digits 😃
Imagine living in a democracy and voting is more of a privilege than a right.
How harder will they make voting now?
They will restrict it until they can no longer lose. Because they are acting like spoiled 5 year old trying to constantly change the rules of a game to where they are the ones that win it.
Because we live in a Republic not a democracy
@@Raja-bz4yw Republic or democracy, the people must have power to vote
@@SC-RGX7 agreed
NONE. VOTER ID ELECTION DAY AS THE LAW SAYS, ON PAPER, COUNTING BY HAND IN THE PRECINCT. SO YOU APPROVE OF WIDESPREAD CHEATING THEN. GOOD FOR YOU, ANOTHER PERSON WITH NO INTEGRITY. CONGRATS
In STL County Missouri. They removed the electronic voting machines due to "accuracy" according to a republican poll worker. I was shocked so I informed her how sad it was, I explained that I was a poll worker who worked with those machines and was very impressed how notably secure the data is and how they had backup paper recordings of every single vote. I told her it's sad that like before we don't have a choice in how we vote in person now.
Pay attention to the side that wants to limit voting, your most sacred democratic right.
who is wanting to limit voting? There has not been one case of anyone being denied the vote since the 1970s. There have been mistakes made by some telling people they could vote in places when they in fact could not by law. voter cards were issued in error. Errors happen all the time in government so there should be no surprise.. there is no scandal denying the vote to anyone. If there were any it would be plastered on the news, and I see the network news every day.. cbs on week days abc on week ends.. and guess what... no story.. they would have that one on wall to wall coverage..
THATS THE DEMOCRATS> NO VOTER ID, NON CITIZENS
it's a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, not a "Democracy"( mob rule).
NONE of your Rights come from "democracy". They come from Constitutional RULE OF LAW.
Pakistan and North Korea have elections . Dictators make up the rules, like Biden/Obama does ,
Ancient Greeks invented Democracy, while still keeping SLAVERY( something Dixiecrats had).
God, I hadn’t heard about the poll stalkers before. History really does repeat itself, huh.
really? it was all over the news, and I don't even live in the US
They did it to African Americans and people of color in the 50s and 60s (during the civil rights era). This tends to happen when a big shift in American culture and laws happen. Not that people want to respect women, voting, and LGBT rights, those who were once part of the privileged group are trying to hold onto their privilege with the same temper tantrum.
THEY ARENT POLL STALKERS & THEY ARENT AT THE POLLS. THEY ARE AT THE DROP BOXES 75 FEET AWAY BY LAW TO CATCH ILLEGAL ACTIVITY. I GUESS YOU DIDNT SEE THE MOVIE IN MAY 2000 M U L E S
These volunteers deserve the congressional Medal of Honor🇺🇸
As an Arizonan, Kari Lake's loss was such a relief. I miss when the majority of republicans were reasonable. McCain was such a great man.
...You mean RINOs?
Yeah I'm glad Kari Lake lost, and her refusal to concede is the cherry on top. The fact everyone knew she wasn't going to concede was a big part of the reason so many ppl voted against her 🤷🏽♂️
Why did you not like Lake and/or like her opponent, @@SmokingThatCasualPack ?
I've been relieved by a fair few events recently. Primarily Drumpf losing in 2020, and the lack of a red wave in 2022. Seeing drumpf-esque characters suffer defeats gives me even more hope.
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 No, they mean decent and reasonable people. Not these sub-zero temperature IQ psychopaths that call themselves "Republicans" nowadays.
Sign up to be a poll worker, it pays surprisingly well in some places and it is a fun fulfilling job. I have been doing it since 2012.
I wish they would do a video about access to the ballot in different states. Like I know that Georgia it is almost impossible for voters to get anything placed on the ballot, while in California it is much easier. I'd like to see a video that explores which states have made it very hard to access their ballot to place propositions for voters to vote on.
A large number of states have no form of citizen ballot initiative process at all, meaning the only things that they vote on are put forth by the legislators.
READ THE INDIVIDUAL STATE LAWS
@@lovly2cu725 Have you tried doing that? Not so easy...except for "special" people like you I'm sure
They got crazies sitting outside my local ballot drop box too
That happens when you don't physically discipline your kids; new white generation is showing how sensitive, fragile and spoiled they are thinking they are entitled to these kind of actions.
Time to send in voter intimidator intimidators.
@@AmyDentata based
SO YOU APPROVE OF MULES GETTING PAID TO DROP OFF HUNDREDS OF "BALLOTS" THAT ARE NOT FROM FRIENDS OR FAMILY? ONE PERSON EARNED $45,000. THATS OK WITH YOU? SAYS A LOT ABOUT YOUR HONOR
I love Mr. Manley's attitude. Reminds me of my supervisor when I was working on the last federal election here in Canada - he just wanted everybody to vote and every vote to count. That's it.
EVERY LEGAL VOTE TO COUNT. LOTS OF BALLOTS ARENT LEGIT
As long as I can remember Oregon has had mail in ballots. It’s not even optional it’s just the default and when we vote our options are we can either mail it in or drop it off at one of any number of ballot drop boxes in each of our counties. The only issue I have seen with our system was if in this past election and it was that the ballot drop box in my towns city hall parking lot got full so I had to come back an hour later. Mail in ballots are a great option if your goal is to drive voter participation, because it removes most of the barriers that prevent working people from participating.
Imagine a state that views it to be of ultimate importance to vote, not how or who you vote for.
AND IF YOUR GOAL IS TO DRIVE CHEATING
A democracy totally needs armed men threatening voters that their vote is fradulent if they dont like who they're voting for
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@@nenmaster5218 dude based plug that channel is top tier
@@kx7500 Those are not my channel, duh.
@@nenmaster5218 ?
@@nenmaster5218 They only pointed out that they like that channel too, not accusing you of plugging your own channel
so the house can vote remotely but they dont want us to be able to
"Rules for thee but not for me!" -Any politician
IT ISNT IN THE CONSTITUTION. NEITHER IS EARLY OR DROP BOX OR MAIL
election days should be national holidays
That doesn't make any difference, a lot of people have to work on holidays. Thats what early voting is for.
@@jeffc1347 I understand what you are saying, but there are also university students and some high school students who are able to vote. Not to mention those who do get national holidays off.
Or they could move it to the weekend. I don't see how making it the first saturday instead of the first tuesday would hurt the system in any way.
@@jeffc1347 it wouldn’t solve every problem but it would certainly make it easier for a large number of people. i’ve had lots of friends who didn’t know if they could vote because of school, work, etc.
I AGREE. WE ARE WORKING ON IT
Real talk, what’s the tactical gear for? Like they couldn’t signal any harder that they’re a bunch of wannabe soldiers.
Ya'all, put your Concern and your Words
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TACTICAL GEAR? GOT PHOTOS TO PROVE THAT?
@@lovly2cu725 they're shown in this video.
Here in UK I've sent in a postal vote for years. You can sign up for a limited period or for all future elections. It's so easy and there is never any excuse not to vote.
It's the same in several US states. I'm from California and most people I know have been exclusively voting by mail for at least a decade.
and yet you still end up with the Tories. Boris Johnson and Liz Truss. You proud of that?
Australia does national elections the best, even better than the United Kingdom.
For starters, voting is compulsory, so the vote is not monopolised by more enthusiastic sections of society. Pre-polling is widely available 6 days a week, 2 weeks before election day. Every suburb and town will have at least one pre-poll station location. The election day is always on a Saturday, as having the election day during the week when everyone is working is truly idiotic. On the election day Saturday every suburb and town will have multiple voting locations, so the queuing wait times are always next to zero. Postal voting is readily available, with those pre-registered automatically receiving their ballot papers as soon as the election is announced for all elections.
The most important aspect to the election process is that the federal elections are solely administered by the federal Australian Election Commission, so all proceedings are conducted to a consistent and uniform federal standard.
The end result is that the Australian federal election to decide the members of parliament and Prime Minister is *never* in doubt.
Australians are truly appalled with how Americans conduct their presidential elections. It appears as though they are run by 5 year olds, voting for the kindergarten class captain.
@@analcommando1124 I've NEVER voted for the Tories- I'm proud of that!
@@user-kc1tf7zm3b Compulsory voting with proportional would seem the best option.
Man even if my country who’s in a constant threat of authoritarianism, had history with election fraud, has campaigns plagued with violence and is in no way respectful of the rule of law, still has managed to build a free and fair electoral system in which any citizen over 18 can vote however they want, you know the US is down right bad in that aspect
You just described the US
Which Country is that?
Which country???
Indonesia???
I guess we’ll never know this fabled hopeful nation….
BLAME THE DEMOCRATS
Well, they lost just to be able to deny the result.
Dems and Republicans do that lol
@@Scar3cr0wwx dems don’t really
Isn't it ironic? Why participate in an election if you are just going to assume it's fraudulent to begin with??? I don't get Republican logic... xD
@@JusticeGort Hilary clinton and stacy abrams and that's just 2
@@Scar3cr0wwx Clinton and Abrams both conceded their races once results were fully counted. Waiting for the count to finish on close races is reasonable. Insisting on continuing even afterwards, with no evidence of fraud is where the problem lies.
In other countries we would call this voter repression
AND THATS WHAT WE CALL IT HERE & IT IS ILLEGAL, BUT SOME COMMENTS HERE FROM DEMOCRATS THINK THAT IS OK BC THEY ARE DOING THE SUPPRESSION
@@lovly2cu725 you mean republicans?
@@lovly2cu725 genuinely curious if you can link an article from a reliable source (no face book twitter or social media) that actually proves widespread voter fraud
Great system! Democracy must be defended at all costs lest, as Plato wrote, it is voted out of existence.
CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC
Difference between conservatism and populism? When more people wanted to vote ...
... Angela Merkel said: "Our competitors did well. But all in all, I am very happy that more people voted."
... Trump & friends said: "Voter fraaaaaaaaud!"
I can respect someone who loses and still manages to mind a bright spot in it all.
MERKEL ALSO BLEW OFF 45 WHEN HE WARNED ABOUT LNG. HOW IS THAT WORKING OUT?
Trump lost both the popular vote AND the electoral college vote in 2020… Yet people still think he won? Gimme a break. Somebody explain that one. 🤦♂️
Flawed democracy
Echo chambers. If you live in areas that are predominantly one political party, it is _very_ west to convince yourself that a lot more people think the same as you than there really are. This is a lot easier in rural areas and smaller towns. That, and gerrymandering makes it incredibly easy to hide opposition. For example, there are surprisingly large swathes of Democratic voters in Texas. Yet due to "winner take all" representation and a lot more "land" looking Republican, it's very easy to believe that the entire state is deep red. It's not as easy to do so with Democratic areas due to high population centers tending towards blue. For example, looking at a map, only a small fraction of Illinois' area votes blue, while like 80% of the map is red. What people neglect is that 20% contains like 80% of the state's population, thus making it very easy to dismiss it as just "Chicago choosing for the majority".
It's a cult mindset clouded by baseless conspiracy theories.
How's that Biden presidency going? clown.
He said it, and keeps saying it, and he doesn't tell lies. Trump has never ever lied or exaggerated, not once in his whole life!
At least that's the mentality.
If vigilantes are apparently so concerned about the dropbox being manipulated why doesn't the government just livestream the dropbox?
This should be more than enough to ensure it won't be manipulated, so they won't actually have a reason to stay there.
That’s a lot of bandwidth for tens of thousands of boxes most likely
Many of them were and it didn't matter.
So this is how liberty dies, with no handwritten date on the envelope
THAT IS THE STATE LAW. PEOPLE ARE CONTACTED TO 'CURE" IT/FIX IT. SHE DIDNT GIVE THAT PART? THATS RIGHT SHE BLAMED IT ON TRYING TO REPRESS VOTING. NOT READING & PUTTING THE DATE IS ON THE VOTER. NOT ANOTHER PARTY OR THE STATE. AND THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO FIX IT. SO THAT WAS A LIE.
@@lovly2cu725 It is 100% voting suppression. America has a long history of making voting too complicated or time consuming for minorities and the working class. Do you have any idea what voting looks like in other democratic countries? You turn up, have your name ticked off a list, mark a ballot and put it in the box - it takes five minutes, and electoral fraud is almost unheard of. As a freedom-loving democratic Brit, your system is OBVIOUSLY designed to confuse people and cause them to mark the ballot in invalid ways, in order to suppress votes.
As a Brazilian, seeing this gives me multiple feelings. The USA system is archaic slow and chaotic to me. You guys should have an unified voting system, controlled by a strong and independent legal institution, like its here in Brazil. Here they tried to start these fraud acusations, but our eletronic voting system is so easily auditable, and so transparent, that this discourse has litteraly no force in congress. You can litteraly check all the votes of any session in the country by your cellphone. But I know that changing it now would actually give more firewood for the election deniers. But cmon, it should be better.
In other hands, there are some things like the early voting that is very nice and enables more people to vote, and we dont have this here in Brazil. At the same time, we have only 20% of abstentions, while you guys have 34%, so its questionable how much this is helping. More should be done so more people go vote.
you guys nearly re-election Bolsonaro. Maybe deal with how messed up Brazil is?
We've tried recently (as in, during 45**'s term) to make it better. _Some_ people refused to even engage with it, never mind propose alternate solutions or even basic discussion; so the bill died on the vine.
@@analcommando1124 Well, Bolsonaro did actually lose, so that was a good thing.
IS ISNT ARCHAIC, IT IS RI GG ED/ EACH STATES DOES THEIR OWN ELECTION THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT STAYS OUT OF IT. IT IS WRITTEN IN THE CONSTITUTION. SIMILAR STUFF GOING ON IN BRAZIL NOW FOR THE SAME REASON. IT ISNT EASLIY AUDITABLE UNLESS YOU HAVE PAPER BALLOTS & COUNT BY HAND
The inspiration I needed to sign up, thank you. I wish I had known sooner, but I act now.
Thanks for a great segment, Vox!
Why can someone who doubts the legitimacy of* the elections be so sure about the support for their own cause? If most people really do support you, why would you undermine their ability to elect you?
WHEN IT IS OBVIOUS THAT SOMETHING HAPPENED ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE AHEAD BY 11 POINTS. YOU MAY HAVE A CLUE AT THAT POINT(SARCASM)
These "vigilantes" = small pp energy
Bingo.
What do you mean? They don't have one to begin with.
aweseome! Loved Vox from the beginning, y'all are a great source!
THIS WAS ALL LIES. GLAD YOU BOUGHT THE LIES
@@lovly2cu725 there's no need to shout, jeez.
I've been voting by mail since 2002. Never had a problem with it then. Why is it suddenly a problem now?
YOU DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR BALLOT, IF IT WAS COUNTED, ADJUDICATED, IF IT ARRIVED. THEY COUNT THEM AS THEY COME IN SOME STATES 7 KNOW DAILY HOW MANY THEY ARE BEHIND & CAN MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE IN OTHER WAYS 😉WINK
@@lovly2cu725 Well, with that sort of conspiracy theory, then how do we ever know if our votes are counted? How come the Republicans who won their seats do not seem to doubt the vote count?
Mail in ballots are amazing. Voting isn’t a holiday and a lot of people don’t have time to go vote.
It's inconceivable that you guys don't have elections at the weekends.
Can't believe that in 2022 the United States of America is still having all these issues regarding voting, with everything that has happened. From women not being able to vote to black people being denied their right to vote. This is unbelievable!
From where did you get those stats😂😭💀
If they had their way you can bet it would be white men in power, everyone else as property. Sorry, I meant as "human ressources".
Turkish voting seems easier... All you gotta do is find where you are voting (for my family its the school in the area we are living), go there at anywhere from 08.00-17.00 (goverment issues the hours) and cast the vote(s).
Turkey is not the US, wildly different circumstances.
@@treycotter Of course, the geography and population are very different. But personally i can't think a scenario people making voting harder.
@@askosefamerve Well first off everything you said in your original comment is also true for the US, but to answer your question, the US is much larger and in many places much more sparsely populated. Finding volunteers for poll and election workers can be very tough in those areas.
TURKEY?😆😆😅🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@treycotter Sorry, i never got a notification from TH-cam.
Actually we do have the same problem. The sparsely populated areas and/or areas that are prone to terrorism exist in Turkey and yes, voting issues exist, less people vote in these areas. Also, i heard votes were more prone to get stolen as these areas don't have people controlling it like many populated city centers.
Honestly it’s pretty smart to sue on the second to last day because they wouldn’t have an opportunity to go in person.
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Love what you guys do Vox! Subscribed!!!
I UNSUBSCIBED BC THIS VIDEO WAS ALL LIES
One party wants your vote to count, th other constantly tries to make it harder to vote, I wonder which party has the majority?
My head just feel dizzy realizing that it is so complicated to cast your vote in the so-called free country. It is always so easy in my country that I never really think about how it is in different country.
BECAUSE ONE SIDE LIKES TO CHEAT & THEY PRETTY MUCH LIED TO YOU THRU THIS VIDEO ON WHO IS DOING WHAT. IM NOT ON EITHER SIDE-IM INDEPENDENT. I CALL IT FOR WHAT IT IS
Incredible content, guys. Keep America a safe, free, and democratic country.
Its a democratic republic, and I'd rather it be libertarian with no politicians stealing your money
@@Scar3cr0wwx You probably think age of consent is an infringement of your freedom too, right?
@@Magiczny-Krzysztof no? Are u projecting?
@@zUJ7EjVD why should we abolish someone that actually worked hard to get where they are? We should rly abolish the cops and give everyone guns to defend against criminals like jeffery epstein and the clintons, Bush's and joe biden and donald trump
CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC & YOU BOUGHT THE LIES THEY TOLD
The fact that US has different voting rules/methods for each state is beyond laughable.
Lost me when lady said Philly is the best city in the world. 🤣
please continue to fight for your freedom and democrazy.. love from philippines
Democrats are destroying democracy
We don't live in a democracy. If America wants to call itself a democracy, it should have ranked choice voting, abolish the electoral college, and make mandatory time off for voting. It has none of those things.
at 3:21, "cast doubt on the 2020 election results" is just a nicer way of saying "denied the 2020 election results".
NO MORE LIKE ELECTION TRUTHERS. IF YOU DIDNT BOTHER TO RESEARCH OR HELP YOU ARE THE DENIER
I have PTSD and a fear of guns. The people with guns in AZ are the reason I was unable to vote this year. FOR MY OWN MENTAL HEALTH I HOPE YOU ALL GO TO JAIL AND LEAVE THOSE POOR MAILBOXES ALONE
Sign up for permanent early voting. You will get a ballot in the mail. You can mail it or drop it off at a county drop box.
Have to say I'm happy to live in Sweden.
We can easily vote by mail several weeks up to the election day. And election day is always a holiday.
No registration needed.
In my town, no one was further away than a couple of minutes from their polling station.
We may have faulty politicians like everyone else, but I thank the old gods and the new for our election system.
Well, Sweden is 1/33rd the size of the US's population, 1/18th the size a unitary state and not a federation.
AND ALLOWS FOR CHEATING. CONGRATS
Vote now guys! Before politicians make it illegal to 😂
ITS IN THE CONSTITUTION. TRY READING IT SOMETIME. YOU WONT SEE EARLY VOTING, MAIL IN OR DROP BOXES MENTIONED
@@lovly2cu725The constitution was written in 1787 and the U.S. was much smaller and different then. Besides, the only people allowed to vote back when the Constitution was originally written were property owning and tax paying white men.
Are there no minimum education standards or even ethical standards for these GOP politicians?
Self-evidently not.
WHAT ABOUT THE DEMS? ARE YOU JOKING. THEY CHEAT EACH OTHER IN THE PRIMARY WAKE TF UP
If you tell your followers that the system doesnt work, they stop participating in the system. They legit played themselves
AND THATS WHAT THE DEMS WANT, NO ONE ELSE TO VOTE SO THEY HAVE FREE REIGN. SO WE ARE OVER THE TARGET BC THEY ARE FIGHT ING TOOTH & NAIL. THEY WERE CAUGHT RED HANDED THIS TIME
How'd they forget to write the date?
The election is only considered legitimate when our candidate win but when we lose, it is illegitimate!
I hope that makes sense!
IT MAKES SENSE TO DEMOCRATS. THEY SAID SO OVER & OVER ON TAPE
Just call them sore losers. It's like a ufc fighter who got his brain pummelled and then gets interviewed right after and said nahh i was still in the fight i was good
AND WHEN THEY CHEAT?
Stand-up and fight four your rights 💪✊ from a french guy !😉
Based:b
Sitting outside for hours?! 😭😭😭
PATRIOTS. YOU WOULDNT DO IT BC YOU ARE LAZY
And they STILL LOST. Love that 🤓
WHO? AZ? LAWSUITS TOMORROW. CANNOT WAIT
I'd send you guys a question, but the form requires sending a video and I don't want to do that.
Just wear a mask while you film.
that is only going to make them not say those things next election and wiggle their way into office.
Voting should be free of any interference. Period.
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AND WITH VALID PHOTO ID , 1 DAY AS IT SAYS IN THE CONSTITUTION ON PAPER COUNTED IN THE PRECINCT, BUT DEMS DONT WANT THAT
Yes 🇺🇸👍
Political candidates just can't take defeat like an adult these days. Goes without saying that it's the culture we live in these days. I see it more and more in sports.
SO ROLL OVER WHEN YOU WERE CHEATED & ITS A TURNING POINT IN THE COUNTRY? I DONT WANT YOU IN A FOX HOLE WITH ME.
Imagine cheating, and still losing 😂😂
THAT HAPPENED IN THE GEORGIA DEMOCRAT PRIMARY. 3 CANDIDATES. WOMAN & HER FAMILY VOTED FOR HER. SHE CAME IN 3RD. SHE CHECKED HER PRECINCT- 0 VOTES FOR HER. SHE KNOWS SHE VOTED FOR HERSELF. HAD IT CHECKED. TURNS OUT CHEATING, SHE CAME IN FIRST, THE GUY WHO WAS FIRST REALLY CAME IN 3RD. DEMOCRATS DO IT TO DEMOCRATS TOO
Never back down from freedoms!
For a minute I thought, "Amazing! A Vox video not full of zoom calls of people upspeaking!" ...boy was I wrong.
Americans chose to defend democracy. Massive respect from the UK 🙂🇬🇧🇺🇸😊🥰
GOP won the house...
@@Daniboi971 by a much smaller margin than they historically should have. It may not be the best situation, but it's way way way better than what usually happens in the midterms. Now, we just need to kick the crazies out of the house in the next election and vote in some sane politicians.
NOT DEMOCRACY. CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC
"Monitoring" drop boxes is something Brownshirts would do.
Ya'all, put your Concern and your Words
into Action. Do it by watching very
valueable Info about the GOP, the Voting-War
and so much more that "Some More News" masterfully explains.
These people are modern brown shirts, no need to beat around the bush
PATRIOTS DO IT HERE TO PHOTOGRAPH CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
because they deny having denied anything.
THERE IS NOTHING TO DENY. IT IS TRUTH.
@@lovly2cu725 Truth according to...?
Thank you to all who contributed to getting rid of these a holes who think they can pull a fast one over the American people and that we wouldn't notice or fight back. I don't know how these people can sleep at night knowing they are delibrately tearing down the democracy they supposedly stand for.
insert Republican reply of "duhh, 'Merica is a republic not a democracy ... derp
This is so funny to people coming from mail-voting-only countries 😂
ALLOWING THE CHEAT RIGHT UNDER THEIR NOSES & THEY ARE OBLIVIOUS
"81 million votes"
Do we need a reminder of the number of persons living in the US?
HE GOT 42 MAX
@@lovly2cu725 Yes, we need a reminder of the number of people living in California alone.
81 million. cry about it
But you all have no problem thinking trump got 74. 🙄 I'm sorry it's so difficult for the anti-intellectual party to add vote totals together.
This is very disturbing. In Austria we don't need voter registration, our elections are on Sundays when all our shops are closed, we don't have Gerrymandering because it doesn't make sense and we have a rather long history of voting by mail. Seeing what is happening in the US is worrying.
Don’t worry, we are far more worried about in here _in_ America. Thanks for the concern though cousin!
TELL THE DEMOCRATS TO HAVE INTEGRITY. PAPER BALLOTS 1 DAY VOTING IN PERSON COUNTED BY HAND IN THE PRECINCT. THAT WAY THE DEMS CANNOT CHEAT
What is an electron denier? People who only believe in the existence of neutrons and protons?
why they lost? bc losers lose
KATIE HOBBS IS A LOSER & CHEATED. SHE WILL LOSE SOON THO
@@lovly2cu725 lolololol keep donating, loser
I think this video was really well done. Very interesting information and stats. I think the number one issue going on is that one group says "anyone should be able to vote however they want, that's voting rights" and the other group says "you're just trying to cheat". What needs to happen is recognizing that what each group wants is a way to vote that is legitimate and fair and trustworthy but also convenient and not limiting. If we can figure out a way to do that we could potentially satisfy both groups.
I mean, it already is legitimate and fair, the incident rate of voter fraud is 0.0003 percent, and the state with the most fraudulent votes in 2020 was Arizona, with 198 cases, and there were under 500 cases nationwide, which is a number far too small to be consequential in any way. No government investigation or reputable third party has been able to find any evidence of voter fraud anywhere close to the scale required to affect the result of an election
That's naive. Conservatives genuinely don't believe in democracy.
The problem is that an investigation found no widespread "untrustworthiness" in the 2020 election, but the election deniers will not accept it. Trying to satisfy them is futile, because they are not playing by the rules of democracy, judicial oversight etc.
TOO BAD IT WAS INACCURATE. DEMS WONT CAVE. WE HAVE TO VOTE THEM & RINOS OUT. THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO CHEAT. THEY CANT WIN WITHOUT IT
Great context!
Armed personnel showing up at polling stations to intimidate you not to vote is such a third-world country thing. U S A! U S A! 🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷
When 6 mail in ballots have an address on them that happens to be an empty lot that was never zoned for residential use that can cause normal people to doubt.
and this happened? Where? with what proof?
@@susie7479 it was 2020, so youre automatically going to say it didnt happen. As you always do.
IT IS ILLEGAL & THOSE BALLOTS GET VOTED ANYWAY, JUST LIKE DEAD PEOPLE VOTE. IT IS CALLED CHEATING. FIRST SMART COMMENT I HAVE SEEN
@@guillermoelnino I believe that you believe that. But in 2020 you all believed so many lies like this. Whenever it came time to show it to a court, the evidence was magically not there. Because they were just lies on Twitter.
@@sagittated when no judgr is ravr enough to even look at the evidence its kind of hard to get your case heard.
this election was like people choosing whether to plug the hole in a sinking ship or letting everyone drown because the food was subpar and they don't like the captain, and plugging the hole won by like .3%
is it me or when I read the title I legitimately thought that these people went missing💀
If I somehow lost track of the news last 10 years, I would be surprised at the title.
Like why do election deniers participate in an election they don't believe?
Because it's all in bad faith