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Makes no sense to me. I'm not a Boston sports fan (in fact I actively root against the Pats, Celtics, Bruins and Red Sox). But while Belichick can take some of the blame, he's always been a defensive coach at heart. He needs a better QB and better offensive coordinator. Their drafting has also been horrible in recent years (which is on him). But you can't fire a coach who (along with Brady) was behind your rise from a team with zero rings, to a team with six.
That’s not what I hear. I think most of us don’t want him as a GM, but I not think he’d be willing to be just the coach. Since tom has left, he’s been decent as a coach, but abysmal as a GM
Speak for yourself. Is he a great defensive mind still? Absolutely. But his ego is too large for this team/organization to become successful. He can’t draft an offense to save his life and he spends money on dudes like Hunter Henry, Gesicki and JuJu.
This team is undisciplined and makes mistakes every single week. There is always a terrible mistake that ruins the game for them. That's on Bill. He can't put a smart and well coached team on the field. He needs to go entirely
@@Titleist24 Yes they were. Patriots had a real rough start one year maybe like 2016 or 2017 and people were calling it the end for Brady. Then he came back with a vengence.
@@nathanq33 Also people forget BB has made 'unwinnable' games on schedule look manageable due to certain inclement factors. But I guess its hard to see his overall coaching prowess when the overall talent of the Pats is just crap.
While Brady was at his peak there were stories regularly about Patriots coaches believing they could win with "any" QB. The fact they even considered trading Brady to start Garoppolo shows how warped their thinking is. No offense puts more on the plate of the QB than the Patriots. Brady routinely made average (or worse) OL and WR play look elite by getting the ball out quickly with off the charts anticipation and accuracy despite an offense that generates very few scheme wins. I don't think the Pats coaches understand how impossible the job of QB is on this team without the greatest ever making it work. They can't get away with underinvesting in OL and WR any more.
Brady wasn’t even close to as great at avoiding sacks as Marino was, yet no one knows this because the narrative around more talented quarterbacks aren’t about the little things they do. People saying Brady helped his O-Line by getting the ball out quick is laughable, his Sack% in New England was 4.8%, which is the same as Eli and Worse than Doug Flutie. Marino had the highest sack percentage in Modern History (3.1%) and never had a sack percentage above the 4’s. Brady had a sack percentage of 5 or above 7 times and his team won a superbowl when he had a 9% Sack percentage one year. Brady’s o-lineman were fantastic his whole career in New England and as soon as they weren’t 2019 and 2022 he played terribly.
Brady at his peak was throwing the ball to players like Gronk and Randy Moss. The Patriots during that time had a great OLine because they had one of the best OLine coaches in the history of the league, Dante Scarneccia, and they constantly had ProBowl level talent. Trying to sit there and give one player the bulk of the credit for the offense during the Patriots dynasty is comical.
@@stinkyboy101 especially when he isn’t even a great sack avoiding quarterback, people saw Brady’s last 5 years in the league and think he was Peyton Manning or Dan Marino levels of getting the ball out, he wasn’t…. Ever.
@@joelhague5515 I know Matt light to start, another one although I can’t remember how long he stuck around cuz he was a bust from the ‘00 draft with Brady, was Greg Robinson Randle? I can’t even remember his number tbh. Other than that Damien Woody (on tv a lot) that’s pretty much it. The later NE years he had fantastic O-lineman and he still took more sacks then you would like from a all time great pocket passer, Andrews, Solder, Marcus, Thuney, Trent, Shaq to name a few. Are you seriously gonna argue NE didn’t consistently have good lines?
@@stinkyboy101go back a year prior. He had reche caldwell and Doug Gabriel as his best receiving options. He was a drive away from going to the superbowl in 2006. He got the shit kicked out of him all year and continually elevated that awful offense. They gave him talent in 07 and surprise! They broke records. It's no surprise that the team collapses after brady leaves. Listen to the players themselves. They have bigger egos than anyone and they tell you it was all about tom!
Need to see how he does against the Chiefs, don't forget the offense put up a goose egg in the second half, and Zappe also got close to being intercepted 3 times.
Then Zappe proceeded to get figured out and shut down in the second half and nearly lost the game if the Steelers offense wasn't as bad as ours (4th & 2 and they throw for a homerun instead of for the first down)
I think this video would have been more appropriate if it was based on the NY Jets. Despite their win over the Texans there offense is even worse than the Pats. I think this is the first time they scored 30 points all year. 😂
@@maskedman5657lol I can agree somewhat but at least y'all average 15.5 ppg we average 13.0 ppg either way both teams suck. It's horrible Rodgers got injured y'all would've been good
The dolphins haven’t beat a team with an above 500 record this year. 14 points against the chiefs 17 points against the eagles 20 points against the bills The dolphins are frauds and they’re terrible against any team who even gives them the slightest adversity.
@@Iog0utgive tua a chance. The post season is all that matters. Although i agree with what youre saying, thats just the media being the media getting boners over stats. The dolphins are still good theyre just not the best offense in the league.
@@tylerd1297 the post season is all that matters I agree, though statistically the odds of Tua beating a team with a winning record (90% of playoff teams) has been 0% since week 3 last year
This would be Bill O'Briens fault he's not a good coordinator. The Patriots need to run the football more. Stevenson and Elliott should be leading the league in rushing with how bad the QBs are.
if the O line wasn't constantly injured and having new guys filling in or playing guard one week then tackle the next. there's been many issues there isn't one answer to fix the offense
He's a fair coordinator. But this has been the worst the Pats O-line has looked in recent years. They had no real plans for RT and were lucky to get Onwenu to fill that this season. Trent Brown is okay but he's trending down and as nice as Andrews is, he's always injured every year. Even in Mac's rookie season where he pretty much showed his limitations, what helped was the O-line playing great as a group.
The "Patriot Way" only worked because they had Brady. Full stop. Having brady meant he could bail-out subpar talent AND they could attract better talent for cheap, because they wanted to get a ring. A few years removed from that dynasty, no one wants to go there unless they over pay OR no one else wants that player.
The easy answer to why the pats offense is bad is because their entire offensive identity was molded over 20 years towards having the single greatest QB to walk the earth. If the current team was able to run the Brady system they'd be a top 10 offense, the physical talent is there. But they don't have the experience, trust and confidence to do so. Under Brady the WRs would've seen the CBs playing hilariously underneath and inside and just run fades on them while the QB just lofts the easy dots for TDs. The Pats have never needed smart playcalling, that's what's killing them. Their entire offensive philosophy was based on Brady, Gronk and Edelman just being smarter post snap
Clearly what happened was Robert and the Krafts forced Bills hand into not only drafting but keeping a mediocre Mac Jones. Where building up an offensive line and finding a solid free agent would make the team an instant contender with the defense they have.
This is one of the worst offenses I've ever seen in my lifetime being a pats fan 1990 is a close second. But this is just plain horrible. I don't think Belicheck needs to be fired he just doesn't need to draft on offense anymore defense he can still draft but who knows what the hell is going to happen
@@tastyneck O-line got worse and the rest of the offensive talents just plain suck. Doesn't help Mac has lost all confidence and faith from the staff that he's kinda quit on the team. At least last year the O-line was healthy enough to have Stevenson just run the ball. Can't even do that for Stevenson this season.
Love the content as always Alex! The film analysis is excellent, and you're usually right when you make predictions. Would love to see maybe a couple different style videos this upcoming offseason. Maybe some prospect rankings? A mock draft or two? Or maybe even your take on what the Bears should do either with Fields/draft a qb/ trade the #1 pick. Great stuff!
i really feel as if Bill needs to be relegated to simply DC, their defense is always decent and it really seems like Bill can only hit on defensive draft picks and aquations, the offense is terrible.
If fields keeps doing good I feel like they will take Harrison jr with the #1 draft pick and we will have no choice and take either Caleb or Drake maye
Most definitely. But lets not also discount how much better guys like Edelman, Gronk, Welker, and Moss were than any of the guys who have been on this roster for the post-Brady years.
They put up respectable performances with guys like Cassel and Jimmy G while Brady was out. They were clearly a downgrade from Brady, but the team still functioned and won a good % of the time. Even going back to when Bledsoe had to step in. What we're seeing now is a complete disaster unlike any time they lacked Brady previously. In retrospect, this decline started while they still had Brady. There were games they lost where teams just manned up on the Pats and Brady's wrs couldn't beat 1 on 1 coverage already. I bet him seeing the writing on the wall is part of why he left. Now the skill pos talent is worse still, and the qb is far worse. It seems Belichick is still fielding a competent defense, but he needs a coach who can pick and develop offensive guys or they're going to stay a bad team.
Certainly not in 2019. Brady knew his talents were being wasted when the best BB can surround him besides old Edelman and old James White were Jakobi Meyer, Philip Dorsett and Mohamed Sanu (off a trade). Sure BB flopped picking N'Keal Harry but the WR first round class of 2019 wasn't any better with the Ravens picking Marquise Brown. And his ass would be shipped off years later. Its the teams who picked in round 2 where all the WR talents were that got rewarded.
@@TheMelnTeam I'm convinced BB has not dealt well with the 'brain drain' not only from his staff but also the scouting/front office. In fact many of the Pats FO guys would also move on to other openings in other teams like the Texans (Nick Caserio), Cardinals (Monti Ossenfort) and former Raiders GM David Ziegler (who was the guy who brought in Josh McDaniels and a bunch of Pats guys on the coaching staff). So BB who can't find other guys to do those roles from the outside has taken more responsibility for those roles. But sadly he's also only willing to work with people he's known who may be a bad fit than someone an outsider who could be a great mind.
I don't think the argument holds: at 1:10 or so, Mac just flat out misses the throw. It's a good design, decently run route, and he just puts it too far, either by making it too much of a line drive, or just aiming too far. I'm not one to say Zappe is anything but well below average. Also at 4:30, it looks pretty clear that the QB is not reading it 1 2 as he goes right to # 2. At 5:50, tyquan totally stacks the DB, which is great, but not on that route. Hard to know if the coaches coach that (unlikely) or it's just a poor execution by the relative noobie.
Its hard to see who individually is failing in this Pats offense. But it is VERY clear that every part is failing either way. The O-line isn't up to snuff so that hurts the potency of the run game. The receivers can't separate so granted that puts more pressure on the QB. But the QB has also lost confidence in himself and faith in the staff to help him out. Its not like he's mobile either so he can't keep opposing defenses honest if they choose to play man coverage (the MOST looks on MacCorkle among league leaders).
Saying everything is broken, and then showing a play where if the QB just throws the ball 1 yard different 25 yards downfield is a QB issue not ‘everything’ as argued. I don’t think every play is the qb’s fault by any stretch, but more accurate throws and the pats pick pick isn’t quite as amazing. I note the pats defense has been top of the class; they didn’t need much to flip Ls to Ws. I am all for them losing more from here…I just want to see pick 2 traded for a 2025 1st and 31 7th round picks (I want to see the entire league go in on the idea of helping Bill make the first 32 team trade.)
Never should have drafted Mac. Had opportunity to draft talent and build roster before finding their QB and they did the big mistake of taking a “Brady like” qb without giving him any tools or good scheme
@@williamhermann6635 Sure he had some great highs all the bonehead plays he has showed off this year and last (with Patricia) were present in his rookie year as well. Its hard for someone like MacCorkle to succeed trying to play perfect ball every week just to win with a stacked offense. Because he's not mobile and if he gets scared into a back legged throw, he's throwing that ball to no mans land either way.
You know for all he's done everybody sure gives in awful easy Where's your loyalty? I bet you if you keep Bill around next year or the year after that Patriots team will be one of the best in the league.
atleast the defense will be good next yr especially w gonzo n judon back. rb core is good too, just some linemen and a wr1 so bourne can slide down to 2
Wanna bet? I would wager the Pats offense rebounds with Mac Jones stuck on the bench. LOL. BOB is a excellent offensive coach - their line gives them reasonable time - and they have some speed in Thorton and some sure hands in Henry and the other receivers.
As a Raiders fan, I noticed how McDaniels and Zieglers departure have impacted the patriots. If Bill can bring them back and get a QB he’ll be back in playoff contention
Firing Bellichick is not the answer, but he does need a stern talking to about his utter refusal to draft good recievers, or any offensive weapons at all for that matter
Its more like Mac has already showed his limitations in his rookie year. The same back foot throws without any touch was there in 2021. When he's frustrated he's made boneheaded plays. The only difference then was the O-line was also better so the Pats can run the ball. Plus the wide receiver talent is at its absolute worst. No speed, no separation and no ways to get defenses out of playing man vs Mac in passing downs.
I'm torn because he's done so much for us but I think he has to go. He's still a defensive genius but it's not worth putting up with the baggage he brings for the offense.
@@williamhermann6635 Yes correct but unless he's willing to give up GM duties I think this may be his last year. I'd be open to giving him one more chance considering all he's done for us but his leash will be incredibly short.
Hes always had bad offenses. Brady routinely sucked until the 4th quarter when teams miraculously just collapsed against him (not literally every game but a ton of times in his career). The defense always is what kept the dynasty patriots in games
It seems Tom was the entire offensive mind of the Pats dynasty, essentially the offensive coordinator the whole time. Which is part of why the pats/Belicheck coaching tree wasn’t all that good.
Dump bill o'brian and see how things go from there. preferably hire an offensive coordinator from either Shanihan or McVay. Belicheck has kept his side of the ball in order.
@@kghostthegreat Bill O'Brian is a total hack and has a massive ego. I wouldn't be surprised if part of the problem is him refusing to adapt to how the NFL plays defense nowadays.
Any offensive play calling wiz needs some good talent and especially a great talent at QB to even begin to play beyond their potential. Look at the Texans offense for one. OC Bobby Slowik is from the Niners offense staff (like McDaniel) and there is no way he gets results especially earlier in the season with no O-line due to injuries if he didn't have CJ Stroud as QB.
@@t4d0W oh yes. what I'm saying though is that a good OC can take this personnel grouping and do _something_ resembling offence with it. you can scheme guys open, run the ball and pass off of PA, use motion to make the QB's job easier, etc etc. I'm not saying a new OC would be night and day, just that Bill isn't doing that as well as he should.
LOL... How people are relishing the hate. Belichick could retire today as #3 goat in head coaches... Maybe you should look at how the whole NFL seems to be lowering the bar. And if anything is going away it's the era of discipline, just like happened to the NBA 30 years ago...
Relic? He's a defensive coach, hell he admitted he never had any part in the offense, he just let Brady and McDaniels handle it. Considering the defense has been elite even with half of it on IR i'd say he's still an elite coach. Hard to call him an outdated relic when he's the one regularly popularising defensive schemes, the man killed the Rams
@@TheTeremaster I think people are wording things wrong about BBs place in the Pats org. Anyone who knows ball acknowledges BB as a coaching mind on defense and overall game management/adjustments. With the brain drain from his staff and the front office however, BB has had a harder time playing his GM role. Which is the whole scouting, roster building and replacing staff roles. And he's doing it with people he 'trusts' as opposed to taking a chance on talented minds who can fulfill the job. At this point however I think its hard to separate BB from both roles so something has to give.
They didn't fire him. He went to the redskins because he felt he had accomplished all he could with the packers. He died after one season there. @@williamhermann6635
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“Does Tua’s durag give you more or less confidence he’ll throw for more than 280 yards against the Commies?” After I wrote this stupid ass shit, Tua threw for 280 and the projection number was 280.5. Du rag Tua is a douche fr fr
As a patriots fan, all I’m waiting for is secret base’s “collapse” series
Oooooh!! Damn. Now I'm excited for it.
Secret Base is gay
@@jasong3972???
That’s gonna be amazing
@@jasong3972no u
Despite what Boston sports media and regular sports media will tell you, the vast majority of pats fans don’t want bill gone
Makes no sense to me. I'm not a Boston sports fan (in fact I actively root against the Pats, Celtics, Bruins and Red Sox). But while Belichick can take some of the blame, he's always been a defensive coach at heart. He needs a better QB and better offensive coordinator. Their drafting has also been horrible in recent years (which is on him).
But you can't fire a coach who (along with Brady) was behind your rise from a team with zero rings, to a team with six.
Which is infuriating as a pats fan who’s wanted him gone since last season
@@prestigev6131 if he gets fired we deserve to eternally suck like we did before the mid 90s.
That’s not what I hear. I think most of us don’t want him as a GM, but I not think he’d be willing to be just the coach.
Since tom has left, he’s been decent as a coach, but abysmal as a GM
Speak for yourself. Is he a great defensive mind still? Absolutely. But his ego is too large for this team/organization to become successful. He can’t draft an offense to save his life and he spends money on dudes like Hunter Henry, Gesicki and JuJu.
They called for Brady to sit rhe bench at one point, its hilarious that the fix is fire Belichick. They should fire Belichick as GM, not as the coach.
Thats why I never get caught up in the hot button narratives. They're usually dumb and get proven wrong over time.
I think Belichick has made it a package deal. If he doesn't have what amounts to full control of football operations he gone.
This team is undisciplined and makes mistakes every single week. There is always a terrible mistake that ruins the game for them. That's on Bill. He can't put a smart and well coached team on the field. He needs to go entirely
Not one person ever wanted Brady benched
@@Titleist24 Yes they were. Patriots had a real rough start one year maybe like 2016 or 2017 and people were calling it the end for Brady. Then he came back with a vengence.
Jackson was playing with HEAVY inside leverage the entire game thats how bad these WR are he basically dared them to go outside on him.
The Patriots offense make the Iowa offense under Brian Ferentz look like the Greatest Show on Turf
Ouwee
*The Patriots offense Bill Belichick drafted and managed will end Bill Belichick
"What happened to the best coach of all time?" It seems someone has forgotten that Bill Belicheck is a defensive coach
that’s what i don’t understand. he’s a bad GM but his defence is still not a liabikity
@@nathanq33 Also people forget BB has made 'unwinnable' games on schedule look manageable due to certain inclement factors. But I guess its hard to see his overall coaching prowess when the overall talent of the Pats is just crap.
While Brady was at his peak there were stories regularly about Patriots coaches believing they could win with "any" QB. The fact they even considered trading Brady to start Garoppolo shows how warped their thinking is. No offense puts more on the plate of the QB than the Patriots. Brady routinely made average (or worse) OL and WR play look elite by getting the ball out quickly with off the charts anticipation and accuracy despite an offense that generates very few scheme wins. I don't think the Pats coaches understand how impossible the job of QB is on this team without the greatest ever making it work. They can't get away with underinvesting in OL and WR any more.
Brady wasn’t even close to as great at avoiding sacks as Marino was, yet no one knows this because the narrative around more talented quarterbacks aren’t about the little things they do.
People saying Brady helped his O-Line by getting the ball out quick is laughable, his Sack% in New England was 4.8%, which is the same as Eli and Worse than Doug Flutie. Marino had the highest sack percentage in Modern History (3.1%) and never had a sack percentage above the 4’s.
Brady had a sack percentage of 5 or above 7 times and his team won a superbowl when he had a 9% Sack percentage one year.
Brady’s o-lineman were fantastic his whole career in New England and as soon as they weren’t 2019 and 2022 he played terribly.
Brady at his peak was throwing the ball to players like Gronk and Randy Moss. The Patriots during that time had a great OLine because they had one of the best OLine coaches in the history of the league, Dante Scarneccia, and they constantly had ProBowl level talent. Trying to sit there and give one player the bulk of the credit for the offense during the Patriots dynasty is comical.
@@stinkyboy101 especially when he isn’t even a great sack avoiding quarterback, people saw Brady’s last 5 years in the league and think he was Peyton Manning or Dan Marino levels of getting the ball out, he wasn’t…. Ever.
@@joelhague5515 I know Matt light to start, another one although I can’t remember how long he stuck around cuz he was a bust from the ‘00 draft with Brady, was Greg Robinson Randle? I can’t even remember his number tbh. Other than that Damien Woody (on tv a lot) that’s pretty much it.
The later NE years he had fantastic O-lineman and he still took more sacks then you would like from a all time great pocket passer, Andrews, Solder, Marcus, Thuney, Trent, Shaq to name a few.
Are you seriously gonna argue NE didn’t consistently have good lines?
@@stinkyboy101go back a year prior. He had reche caldwell and Doug Gabriel as his best receiving options. He was a drive away from going to the superbowl in 2006. He got the shit kicked out of him all year and continually elevated that awful offense. They gave him talent in 07 and surprise! They broke records. It's no surprise that the team collapses after brady leaves. Listen to the players themselves. They have bigger egos than anyone and they tell you it was all about tom!
Bro, this might have been more relevant if Zappe had not thrown three touchdown passes in a half, a couple of them longer than 20 yards.
Video was made before Sunday's game.
Need to see how he does against the Chiefs, don't forget the offense put up a goose egg in the second half, and Zappe also got close to being intercepted 3 times.
Zappe is about to happen to the Chiefs.
Then Zappe proceeded to get figured out and shut down in the second half and nearly lost the game if the Steelers offense wasn't as bad as ours (4th & 2 and they throw for a homerun instead of for the first down)
@@____Nairod____that’s more on Bill OB’s lack of scheme than Zappe. Bill OB needs to be fired.
That so called “slant” by Thorton was the worst route I’ve seen all year
Your voice sounds genuinely angry at this offense. Understandable.
That smile from Mac Jones while throwing an INT at the beginning of the video really have to pissed a Patriots fan off 0:40
I think this video would have been more appropriate if it was based on the NY Jets. Despite their win over the Texans there offense is even worse than the Pats. I think this is the first time they scored 30 points all year. 😂
They scored 31 against Denver my pats haven't cracked 30 all year the closest was when we beat buffalo 29-25
@@sostdm617 oh yeah you right. But man if watch the Pats offense any day. The Jets offense has literally put me to sleep on multiple occasions
@@maskedman5657lol I can agree somewhat but at least y'all average 15.5 ppg we average 13.0 ppg either way both teams suck. It's horrible Rodgers got injured y'all would've been good
Jets have significantly more offensive talent. Their problem is qb.
The Pats don’t have anyone on their roster that comes close to Garrett Wilson
Every season that goes by increases Brady’s goat status
_The only team that has never faced offensive struggles within the AFC East all year are the Dolphins._
The game vs the Bills happened…
The dolphins haven’t beat a team with an above 500 record this year.
14 points against the chiefs
17 points against the eagles
20 points against the bills
The dolphins are frauds and they’re terrible against any team who even gives them the slightest adversity.
@@Iog0utgive tua a chance. The post season is all that matters. Although i agree with what youre saying, thats just the media being the media getting boners over stats. The dolphins are still good theyre just not the best offense in the league.
@@tylerd1297 the post season is all that matters I agree, though statistically the odds of Tua beating a team with a winning record (90% of playoff teams) has been 0% since week 3 last year
This would be Bill O'Briens fault he's not a good coordinator. The Patriots need to run the football more. Stevenson and Elliott should be leading the league in rushing with how bad the QBs are.
Patriots' offensive problems begin and end with talent or lackthereof.
if the O line wasn't constantly injured and having new guys filling in or playing guard one week then tackle the next. there's been many issues there isn't one answer to fix the offense
He's a fair coordinator. But this has been the worst the Pats O-line has looked in recent years. They had no real plans for RT and were lucky to get Onwenu to fill that this season. Trent Brown is okay but he's trending down and as nice as Andrews is, he's always injured every year. Even in Mac's rookie season where he pretty much showed his limitations, what helped was the O-line playing great as a group.
@@williamhermann6635he chose the players
@@AintNoWaye Im aware.
0:23 - The 1977 Falcons lost 3 games when their D allowed 10 or fewer points, one of those being a 3-0 loss.
The "Patriot Way" only worked because they had Brady. Full stop. Having brady meant he could bail-out subpar talent AND they could attract better talent for cheap, because they wanted to get a ring. A few years removed from that dynasty, no one wants to go there unless they over pay OR no one else wants that player.
The easy answer to why the pats offense is bad is because their entire offensive identity was molded over 20 years towards having the single greatest QB to walk the earth.
If the current team was able to run the Brady system they'd be a top 10 offense, the physical talent is there. But they don't have the experience, trust and confidence to do so. Under Brady the WRs would've seen the CBs playing hilariously underneath and inside and just run fades on them while the QB just lofts the easy dots for TDs.
The Pats have never needed smart playcalling, that's what's killing them. Their entire offensive philosophy was based on Brady, Gronk and Edelman just being smarter post snap
Clearly what happened was Robert and the Krafts forced Bills hand into not only drafting but keeping a mediocre Mac Jones. Where building up an offensive line and finding a solid free agent would make the team an instant contender with the defense they have.
Mac Jones was bills pick. That's been confirmed by several sources at this point.
This is one of the worst offenses I've ever seen in my lifetime being a pats fan 1990 is a close second. But this is just plain horrible. I don't think Belicheck needs to be fired he just doesn't need to draft on offense anymore defense he can still draft but who knows what the hell is going to happen
How do they get seemingly worse after going from Matt Patricia to Bill O'Brien? It's crazy.
@@tastyneckyou ain't lie about that
@@tastyneck O-line got worse and the rest of the offensive talents just plain suck. Doesn't help Mac has lost all confidence and faith from the staff that he's kinda quit on the team. At least last year the O-line was healthy enough to have Stevenson just run the ball. Can't even do that for Stevenson this season.
Love the content as always Alex! The film analysis is excellent, and you're usually right when you make predictions. Would love to see maybe a couple different style videos this upcoming offseason. Maybe some prospect rankings? A mock draft or two? Or maybe even your take on what the Bears should do either with Fields/draft a qb/ trade the #1 pick. Great stuff!
Any Eagles or Washington breakdowns you’d recommend?
i really feel as if Bill needs to be relegated to simply DC, their defense is always decent and it really seems like Bill can only hit on defensive draft picks and aquations, the offense is terrible.
Bill is not going anywhere. If Zappe does good/decent the rest of the way, Pats pick Harrison in the first round.
If fields keeps doing good I feel like they will take Harrison jr with the #1 draft pick and we will have no choice and take either Caleb or Drake maye
Tom Brady really made this offense flew with whatever ingredients belichick put on offense.
Most definitely. But lets not also discount how much better guys like Edelman, Gronk, Welker, and Moss were than any of the guys who have been on this roster for the post-Brady years.
They put up respectable performances with guys like Cassel and Jimmy G while Brady was out. They were clearly a downgrade from Brady, but the team still functioned and won a good % of the time. Even going back to when Bledsoe had to step in.
What we're seeing now is a complete disaster unlike any time they lacked Brady previously. In retrospect, this decline started while they still had Brady. There were games they lost where teams just manned up on the Pats and Brady's wrs couldn't beat 1 on 1 coverage already. I bet him seeing the writing on the wall is part of why he left. Now the skill pos talent is worse still, and the qb is far worse.
It seems Belichick is still fielding a competent defense, but he needs a coach who can pick and develop offensive guys or they're going to stay a bad team.
Certainly not in 2019. Brady knew his talents were being wasted when the best BB can surround him besides old Edelman and old James White were Jakobi Meyer, Philip Dorsett and Mohamed Sanu (off a trade). Sure BB flopped picking N'Keal Harry but the WR first round class of 2019 wasn't any better with the Ravens picking Marquise Brown. And his ass would be shipped off years later. Its the teams who picked in round 2 where all the WR talents were that got rewarded.
@@TheMelnTeam I'm convinced BB has not dealt well with the 'brain drain' not only from his staff but also the scouting/front office. In fact many of the Pats FO guys would also move on to other openings in other teams like the Texans (Nick Caserio), Cardinals (Monti Ossenfort) and former Raiders GM David Ziegler (who was the guy who brought in Josh McDaniels and a bunch of Pats guys on the coaching staff). So BB who can't find other guys to do those roles from the outside has taken more responsibility for those roles. But sadly he's also only willing to work with people he's known who may be a bad fit than someone an outsider who could be a great mind.
I don't think the argument holds: at 1:10 or so, Mac just flat out misses the throw. It's a good design, decently run route, and he just puts it too far, either by making it too much of a line drive, or just aiming too far. I'm not one to say Zappe is anything but well below average. Also at 4:30, it looks pretty clear that the QB is not reading it 1 2 as he goes right to # 2. At 5:50, tyquan totally stacks the DB, which is great, but not on that route. Hard to know if the coaches coach that (unlikely) or it's just a poor execution by the relative noobie.
The argument is that one, or multiple aspects of this offense is failing on every play. I think it holds.
Its hard to see who individually is failing in this Pats offense. But it is VERY clear that every part is failing either way. The O-line isn't up to snuff so that hurts the potency of the run game. The receivers can't separate so granted that puts more pressure on the QB. But the QB has also lost confidence in himself and faith in the staff to help him out. Its not like he's mobile either so he can't keep opposing defenses honest if they choose to play man coverage (the MOST looks on MacCorkle among league leaders).
Saying everything is broken, and then showing a play where if the QB just throws the ball 1 yard different 25 yards downfield is a QB issue not ‘everything’ as argued. I don’t think every play is the qb’s fault by any stretch, but more accurate throws and the pats pick pick isn’t quite as amazing. I note the pats defense has been top of the class; they didn’t need much to flip Ls to Ws.
I am all for them losing more from here…I just want to see pick 2 traded for a 2025 1st and 31 7th round picks (I want to see the entire league go in on the idea of helping Bill make the first 32 team trade.)
I guess he really does need a Tom Brady.
Honestly a hell of a block attempt by Stevenson on Nunez-Roches
Can you do a video on why the eagles have done so bad the last two games please
Never should have drafted Mac. Had opportunity to draft talent and build roster before finding their QB and they did the big mistake of taking a “Brady like” qb without giving him any tools or good scheme
Don't compare him to brady. Please. They're nothing alike.
He looked good as a rookie but then Patricia came in and ruined him forever.
@@williamhermann6635 Sure he had some great highs all the bonehead plays he has showed off this year and last (with Patricia) were present in his rookie year as well. Its hard for someone like MacCorkle to succeed trying to play perfect ball every week just to win with a stacked offense. Because he's not mobile and if he gets scared into a back legged throw, he's throwing that ball to no mans land either way.
1:44 “Mano a mano” not “mano y mano” unless you do mean “hand in hand”
You know for all he's done everybody sure gives in awful easy Where's your loyalty? I bet you if you keep Bill around next year or the year after that Patriots team will be one of the best in the league.
atleast the defense will be good next yr especially w gonzo n judon back. rb core is good too, just some linemen and a wr1 so bourne can slide down to 2
Wanna bet? I would wager the Pats offense rebounds with Mac Jones stuck on the bench. LOL. BOB is a excellent offensive coach - their line gives them reasonable time - and they have some speed in Thorton and some sure hands in Henry and the other receivers.
As a Raiders fan, I noticed how McDaniels and Zieglers departure have impacted the patriots. If Bill can bring them back and get a QB he’ll be back in playoff contention
There's a lot wrong with the coaching, and being closed off to "outsiders" is a huge part of it. No new ideas. No new talent.
Actually we're 3 and 10 😂
I would be willing to bet BoB is fired in the offseason and josh comes back. the real question for the pats is what the bears do in the draft.
Do patriots fans want vrabel as HC?
Please fire Troy brown as wr coach. He's awful.
Coaches cant magically coach talent into a player. This offense is severely lacking talent.
So are the rest of the receiving talents of the Pats. You cannot tell me any of them can get separation in isolation.
Firing Bellichick is not the answer, but he does need a stern talking to about his utter refusal to draft good recievers, or any offensive weapons at all for that matter
What’s Mac’s biggest regression from his rookie year?
Its more like Mac has already showed his limitations in his rookie year. The same back foot throws without any touch was there in 2021. When he's frustrated he's made boneheaded plays. The only difference then was the O-line was also better so the Pats can run the ball. Plus the wide receiver talent is at its absolute worst. No speed, no separation and no ways to get defenses out of playing man vs Mac in passing downs.
DeVante Parker has been one of the worst WRs in creating separation for years. Bill gave him an extension.
? drafting another QB doesn't make the wr fasters it just ruins another young QB
so basically, they cant hit a post and bc of that crossers never work
I'm torn because he's done so much for us but I think he has to go. He's still a defensive genius but it's not worth putting up with the baggage he brings for the offense.
The offense just needs more talent. Theres no magic scheme for an offense full of mediocre or worse players.
@@williamhermann6635yea well he also does draft sign and trade for the talent on offense the offense is bad cause of him.
@@doc8187 Thats a personnel thing tho. He may be terrible with personnel decisions, but hes still the greatest coach of all time.
@@williamhermann6635 Yes correct but unless he's willing to give up GM duties I think this may be his last year. I'd be open to giving him one more chance considering all he's done for us but his leash will be incredibly short.
@@JordTheeNord My guess is he'll probly retire.
Lol and today they said they're parting ways. Nice timing.
Will be funny if Malik Cunningham becomes a great QB and Belichick never tried to use him
Bill is the GM in NE. They will never get rid of him 😂
it's not so easy without that Tim Brady guy
they literally reported lastnight that this is Bill last year. talk about timing
Hes always had bad offenses. Brady routinely sucked until the 4th quarter when teams miraculously just collapsed against him (not literally every game but a ton of times in his career). The defense always is what kept the dynasty patriots in games
I mean, Tom Landry fell apart, too.
It seems Tom was the entire offensive mind of the Pats dynasty, essentially the offensive coordinator the whole time. Which is part of why the pats/Belicheck coaching tree wasn’t all that good.
Delusion it's a talent issue
dude probably stopped cheating which stopped him winning
They fucking fired my coach! 😡😠
yet zappe with actual reps in practice and we win a game
He should get Brady
when the highest paid players on your offense are hunter henry and juju, youre gonna have a bad time
"Bill Belichick ended the Patriots offense." I fixed your title.
Dump bill o'brian and see how things go from there. preferably hire an offensive coordinator from either Shanihan or McVay. Belicheck has kept his side of the ball in order.
I doubt it’s a Bill O’Brian issue. Jones has regressed heavily, and the WRs (a bunch of high-tier “role player” type WRs) aren’t playing well
@@kghostthegreat Bill O'Brian is a total hack and has a massive ego. I wouldn't be surprised if part of the problem is him refusing to adapt to how the NFL plays defense nowadays.
Any offensive play calling wiz needs some good talent and especially a great talent at QB to even begin to play beyond their potential. Look at the Texans offense for one. OC Bobby Slowik is from the Niners offense staff (like McDaniel) and there is no way he gets results especially earlier in the season with no O-line due to injuries if he didn't have CJ Stroud as QB.
@@t4d0W oh yes. what I'm saying though is that a good OC can take this personnel grouping and do _something_ resembling offence with it. you can scheme guys open, run the ball and pass off of PA, use motion to make the QB's job easier, etc etc. I'm not saying a new OC would be night and day, just that Bill isn't doing that as well as he should.
Belichick to chargers 2024? 🤔
We are 3-10 at the time of this posting
He’s could be waiting for Caleb in the draft if they are gonna get the #1 seed
It would be awfully tough for the Pats to get the 1st overall pick at this point.
MHJ at 3.
Wow. You _almost_ made me feel sorry for Belichick. 😂
Don't, he is the GM as well.
LOL... How people are relishing the hate. Belichick could retire today as #3 goat in head coaches... Maybe you should look at how the whole NFL seems to be lowering the bar. And if anything is going away it's the era of discipline, just like happened to the NBA 30 years ago...
This is a wicked cope.
@@Benjiizus LOL Sorry to ruin your hate trip... Go back to seething... LOL
Did end*
It's not that Brady made belichick. It's that Belichick is a relic of a time long past in the NFL and it couldn't be more obvious.
Relic? He's a defensive coach, hell he admitted he never had any part in the offense, he just let Brady and McDaniels handle it. Considering the defense has been elite even with half of it on IR i'd say he's still an elite coach.
Hard to call him an outdated relic when he's the one regularly popularising defensive schemes, the man killed the Rams
@@TheTeremaster I think people are wording things wrong about BBs place in the Pats org. Anyone who knows ball acknowledges BB as a coaching mind on defense and overall game management/adjustments. With the brain drain from his staff and the front office however, BB has had a harder time playing his GM role. Which is the whole scouting, roster building and replacing staff roles. And he's doing it with people he 'trusts' as opposed to taking a chance on talented minds who can fulfill the job. At this point however I think its hard to separate BB from both roles so something has to give.
3-10 not 2-10
Football's Rome has Collapsed.
Wow, what a prophet.
It’s feels weird that the pats stink
Then they win in pit and ruin there tank
How the mighty have fallen…
Happens to everyone. Very few coaches retire on a high note. To put it in perspective, even Vince Lombardi was fired by the Packers.
Happens to everyone. Very few coaches retire on a high note. To put it in perspective, even Vince Lombardi was fired by the Packers.
They didn't fire him. He went to the redskins because he felt he had accomplished all he could with the packers. He died after one season there. @@williamhermann6635
Belichick checked out 2 seasons ago. Pretty apparent. He's done. Doesn't matter how good the d or o line are or not.
Most winningest coach of all time. Don Sula is better!
Andy Reid is who people think Bill Belichick is
Reid ain't win until he got his quarterback
@@sostdm617 can say the same thing about Bill 🤷🏻♂️