The BEST SWORD ever? British 1788 pattern heavy cavalry sword

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  • @hawkwindarcher
    @hawkwindarcher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    That is a butcher´s tool Sharpe, not a sword for gentleman. I am not a gentleman.

    • @Lo-tf6qt
      @Lo-tf6qt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Now that's soldiering

    • @Eoraptor1
      @Eoraptor1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I thought that was Mr. Sharpe's sword. Thank you for confirming.
      JAMES

    • @robertgaddy5775
      @robertgaddy5775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Sharpe used a Pattern 1796 Heavy Cavalry Sword. The Pattern 1788 is the direct predecessor.

    • @hyliarmetancanira
      @hyliarmetancanira 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me niether... i'll tak it

    • @RichardPhillips1066
      @RichardPhillips1066 ปีที่แล้ว

      "you're a silk stocking full of shit "

  • @MonkeyJedi99
    @MonkeyJedi99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +290

    Ambidextrous, long straight blade, strong for defense, built for thrusting as well as slashing, allows full extension?
    Yeah, retiring generals and stuffed-shirt cabinet ministers would HAVE to meddle with that.

    • @feliscorax
      @feliscorax 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      It’s the Lord Flashheart of swords. As to the other point, let’s just be thankful that most civil servants are drawn from the upper classes, hence, are much too dim to be a threat.

    • @liamhogan4369
      @liamhogan4369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A Buffoon with 10,000 artillery pieces is still a considerable threat. Wether to his or forces or the enemy, well …

    • @midshipman8654
      @midshipman8654 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      tbf, if assume most in the fields types just wouldnt want to lug about a big hilt!

    • @chroma6947
      @chroma6947 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@midshipman8654 the heavy cavalry sword is just as annoying to wear but has no side protection at all. I would rather have a modified basket hilt and a longer blade personally and it looks nicer. This wasnt for everyone it was for heavy cavalry

    • @nobbynoris
      @nobbynoris ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep, that sounds like the perfect woman alright.

  • @danielwalker8142
    @danielwalker8142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +256

    i think it being heavy and difficult to wear but with those advantages for combat are along the lines of a quote from india "recoil is insignificent when ther is a tiger on the head of your elephant"

    • @RorikH
      @RorikH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      They really have a saying for everything.

    • @Justice-ian
      @Justice-ian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I'm not criticizing the sword, but I've heard (and disagreed with) similar sayings about recoil.
      Another saying holds "People don't so much rise to the occasion, as sink to the level of their training." One who decides to fire under stress may not consciously perceive recoil, but (at best) will rote-execute motions developed at the range. Since extensive practice (especially with brutal, expensive large-game ammo) is rare, for most people those habits will include flinching.

    • @lillyanneserrelio2187
      @lillyanneserrelio2187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@RorikH in India they say a man is considered Wise when he has a saying for everything 😁

    • @julesthurongi1223
      @julesthurongi1223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well said. When the adrenaline hits, our petty likes and dislikes go bye bye.

    • @johnfroehling5653
      @johnfroehling5653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Howda pistols are no joke.

  • @RelativelyBest
    @RelativelyBest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Definitely one of my favorite hilt designs. It's like they took everything I don't really like about a baskethilt and fixed it.

  • @davidcritchley8424
    @davidcritchley8424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    The majority of Le Marchant’s criticism concerning both the 88 patterns was training, stories of troopers cutting off the ears of their mounts or splitting their own feet through ineptitude not the patterns themselves, although I think he also felt them too long for the melee.
    It’s no accident that the 96 LC came with a manual.
    Interestingly he may also have thought the 88 HC too labour intensive too given the 96LC was co designed by Osborn to be constructed simply and of few parts as possible for mass manufacture.

    • @BelleDividends
      @BelleDividends 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Just like heavy plate armor didn't disappear because it somehow became ineffective, but because with armies growing larger and larger it became economically untenable to supply every soldier with it.

    • @maxvarjagen9810
      @maxvarjagen9810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It looks too expensive for a trooper's sword, too bulky for an officer's sword, and too English for a highlander.

    • @jessesmith7553
      @jessesmith7553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I wonder how much more expensive it was compared to the 1796 those extra bars I wouldn't think would require huge amount of extra work like some of the cut out bowl guards with intricate patterns but they would add a bit of extra production time. The blade also looks like it would take more workmanship with the double fuller design. I'd like to see a slightly shorter version that was maybe just a bit pointy-er, since not everyone has the arms for a 38 inch broadsword, with a checkered backstrap for thrusting.

  • @KalonOrdona2
    @KalonOrdona2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    It's a thing of beauty, that is! Backedge for blocking, into twoedge for thrusting, length for slicing, optimized hilt for protection and movement, symmetrical and beautiful!? Somebody found the minmaxing motherlode!

    • @tsamoka6496
      @tsamoka6496 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed! Speaking of minmaxing, I wonder what the TRPG stats for a sword like this would be? =^x^=

    • @KalonOrdona2
      @KalonOrdona2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@tsamoka6496 Martial weapon 1d10 slashing/piercing, grants bonus to parry and to defense against attacks to the sword-hand, can't be used with two hands but can count as a finesse weapon with higher proficiency? :D

    • @tsamoka6496
      @tsamoka6496 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KalonOrdona2 Nice! I bet it'd be good as a favored weapon for certain classes too, like swashbuckler or dueler. A small competency bonus/lower penalty for classes/characters who use mounts would not be out of the question, either. I can also see a masterwork version of it having an extra crit-threat range and possibly a bonus to ignoring a small amount of damage reduction. =^x^=

    • @thefracturedbutwhole5475
      @thefracturedbutwhole5475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@KalonOrdona2 most, actually I think all, one handed weapons don't go over 1D8 (in 5E anyway) but 5E weapons are weird, a Rapier does 1D8 piercing and wielding a spear 2 handed does 1D8 piercing also (it should do more), you could make it a "magic item" and upgrade it/add stats, it screams Rogue Swashbuckler or College of Blades Bard in my mind.

  • @duelist1954
    @duelist1954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I’m a fan of basket-hilted back swords, and I just fell in love with that sword…now I have to find one!

  • @earthknight60
    @earthknight60 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    For anyone else who has been frustrated trying to figure out just exactly what the name of the company making the HEMA sword recreations he occasionally mentions, as in this video, it's "Kvetun".

    • @MS-wd3ls
      @MS-wd3ls 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kvetun made the one in the video?

    • @jamieg2427
      @jamieg2427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      link? i couldn't find it on their website.

    • @hunterspence3465
      @hunterspence3465 ปีที่แล้ว

      No link?

    • @tobytoxd
      @tobytoxd 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Pretty sure this statement about Kvetun and this exact sword here is false.

    • @earthknight60
      @earthknight60 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tobytoxd Its the name he keeps using. He kinda mumbles it, so it's difficult to make out clearly. He could be wrong about the maker though, he has made mistakes like that in the past.

  • @jeffprice6421
    @jeffprice6421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Cavalry was all about the fashion... Like old joke, what is the purpose of the Cavalry? "To bring tone to what would otherwise be merely a an ugly brawl..."

    • @ukaszzyka6279
      @ukaszzyka6279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      That was about the artillery :D

  • @damianslad5633
    @damianslad5633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    New favourite sword. Hopefully someone makes a replica of this.

    • @max34671
      @max34671 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I second this! Matt can you please provide as many statistics as possible, so sword-makers can make accurate replicas?

    • @gmikecstein
      @gmikecstein 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I still like the side sword guard a but more from an aesthetic view. I like to have quillons. Still so beautiful and definitely worth replicating

    • @ianmedford4855
      @ianmedford4855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is that Sharpes sword?

    • @matthewcoates756
      @matthewcoates756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ianmedford4855 No, Sharpe uses its replacement, the British 1796 Pattern Heavy Cavalry Sword.

    • @lukewilliams8548
      @lukewilliams8548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I third that. I also want Matt to provide the numbers so that there can be a reproduction.

  • @nicolaiveliki1409
    @nicolaiveliki1409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    As a person taller than 190cm, the 38 inch blade is a blessing

    • @konstantin.v
      @konstantin.v 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      On a horse! 😊

    • @ovk-ih1zp
      @ovk-ih1zp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      on horseback you would probably need an even longer blade.

    • @gmikecstein
      @gmikecstein 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think anyone over 6 feet/180cm would appreciate this. People were shorter then.

    • @nicolaiveliki1409
      @nicolaiveliki1409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@gmikecstein there were 6 footers back then, too, just not as commonly as now. The largest sword that was ever wielded in battle to my knowledge was 7' long, and belonged to a Frisian pirate in the beginning of the 16th century

    • @DH-xw6jp
      @DH-xw6jp ปีที่แล้ว +2

      At roughly 6ft 4in (for my fellow Americans) your point reach with this thing would be terrifying.

  • @hawkknight4223
    @hawkknight4223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That is a beautiful blade. And has a great deal of functionality in it without sacrificing mobility.

  • @99IronDuke
    @99IronDuke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    According to the Royal Armouries Website "The Pattern 1796 Heavy Cavalry sword was adopted due to the failings of its predecessor, the 1788 pattern sword. This first sword was found by a Board of Cavalry General Officers “from long and repeated experience”, to be “unmanageable, owing to the length of the blade and the weight of the hilt”." Although they point out the 1796 had to be ground down to make it suitable for thrusting, as you said.

    • @PJDAltamirus0425
      @PJDAltamirus0425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@nathanwaight ... I can see that, but heavy calvarymen were on average taller and stronger. They were referred to as big men on big horses.

    • @peterwall8191
      @peterwall8191 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      *99IronDuke*
      I can see their point. It would be unwieldy form the saddle. The amount of training time needed, would have been better used training with pistols, or other firearms.
      That said ,it was a bloody crime. That sword offers so many advantages, the disadvantages become moot.

    • @michaelsimmons2483
      @michaelsimmons2483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Matt might love it but he's 6'1", ~200 lb, has practiced backsword for 2 decades and would generally be a massive outlier among the original user base.

    • @MrBottlecapBill
      @MrBottlecapBill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@michaelsimmons2483 The heavy cavalry would also be well trained. Either way the arguments don't really hold any water because the blade and hilts could easily be shortened, made lighter and still retain all the benefits of the design. It would be just as "wieldy" as any other sword at that point. The reality is most innovation is always met with dislike. People don't want change and don't want to re-learn, even if it means a long term benefit. The military is not new to missing major opportunities because of the laziness bias.

  • @HoJu1989
    @HoJu1989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    18th century Spanish cavalry swords had a very antiquated looking almost cup-hilt (a little more stylized towards the knucklebow, halfway between a fully round cup and a bowl hilt, called "barquilla" or little boat in Spanish) with two long-ish quilons (not rapier long but still long). They used it up to and into the Napoleonic Wars. Out of fashion but rather protective.

    • @HoJu1989
      @HoJu1989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@F1ghteR41 Now that I look at it, I think I got a little ahead of myself there, speaking from memory. Although I've seen a fair number of cavalry swords with that "barquilla" guard (some deeper and closer to a cup and some more shalow), the most common (the first being the M1728 pattern) was a guard with two large domed shells (which made it functionally very similar to a cup-hilt too).
      You can see some examples in this thread
      www.swordforum.com/vb4/showthread.php?88406-Spanish-cavalry-swords-(18th-century)
      And this is the one I had in mind at first
      www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?p=130825&posted=1

  • @victorverola6900
    @victorverola6900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i LOVE to see how enthusiastic Matt is about this sword. Relatable.

  • @rshaart4810
    @rshaart4810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I think a lot of the love for the 1796 comes from the Sharpe series, I would prefer a sword shaped like the 1788 as well, it seems like a good balance of pros and cons

  • @JimmySailor
    @JimmySailor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Captain Jack Aubrey, from the Patrick Obrien novels uses a straight edged heavy cavalry sword during his many boarding actions. Is this the one the author was referring to?

    • @brennomarani4307
      @brennomarani4307 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      He also uses a chair, when recoveing from a wound at the hospital, if I recall it correctly.

    • @JohnSmith-fd7dl
      @JohnSmith-fd7dl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@brennomarani4307 😂😂

    • @TheSteadfastOne
      @TheSteadfastOne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same with Bernard Cornwell’s Richard Sharpe.

    • @tedarcher9120
      @tedarcher9120 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Probably 1796 pattern though

  • @rasmusn.e.m1064
    @rasmusn.e.m1064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    As an anatomy buff, I really like how much the guard reminds me of a (better) ribcage. It even has the same compromises built into it allowing for movement below the protected area while covering those areas when they are bent forward. The only difference is that this design can allow for the "sternum" to reach all the way down because there's no spinal cord to worry about, and the wrist is almost perpendicular to the "waist" which makes it so much more mobile at the cost of not supporting as much of the weight of the guard/ribcage.

    • @alganhar1
      @alganhar1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except the shape of the ribcage is nothing to do with the spinal cord. It is to protect the major organs whilst still allowing the torso to move, and more importantly flex while breathing. Protection of the Spinal Cord is the job of the Spine, or one of them. Poor spine, it wears so many hats!
      The rib cage ends where it does primarily for motive reasons, we need a good deal of mobility in the region below the Sternum, we need to be able to bend, flex and twist without the interferance of a major protective structure such as the ribcage which would render many such movements difficult at best, and impossible at worst.

    • @rasmusn.e.m1064
      @rasmusn.e.m1064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alganhar1 I think you misunderstood what I meant by "no spinal cord to worry about". I was just implying that without a spine, you could extend the sternum and it wouldn't hamper mobility, but because it *is* there, we can't really extend the sternum much longer without severely limiting our potential mobility. Look at turtles as an example. Everything else I agree with :)

  • @urseliusurgel4365
    @urseliusurgel4365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    The sword famously derided by John Le Marchant: "A wide, long, and heavy blade, mounted with a cumbrous fantastic handle... The blades were so brittle, that they often were broken by the slightest blow ... they were too heavy for even the strongest men to wield. It frequently turned in the hand, and inflicted a contusion rather than a wound." These were the swords which Le Marchant was informed by the army surgeons (Flanders Campaign 1793-'95) caused wounds to the men wielding them. They have completely round-section grips, which accounts for the lack of edge alignment referred to in the quote.

    • @alexhunt7810
      @alexhunt7810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      interesting, the difference of perspective

    • @chubbymoth5810
      @chubbymoth5810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I wonder if it wouldn't have been enough to redesign the grip and the hilt a bit. Not a swordsman myself, but I can imagine a round grip made of wood will easily twist when adding the momentum of a charging horse into the equation. A straight blade also doesn't strike me as all that usefull as you easily pierce your opponent and have the blade stuck in your target. A curve can be rather useful to slice through a target without the blade getting stuck when holding it in front of you and just let the momentum of the horse and wielder do the hard work.

    • @frankharr9466
      @frankharr9466 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahhhh. That would b e it then.

    • @frankharr9466
      @frankharr9466 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chubbymoth5810
      Perhaps the most evocotive thing to say is in no pattern that I've seen on this channel, has there been a subsequent sword with a round grip. Other channels have spent a lot of time talking about how much they dislike them.
      A round grip would do it.

    • @richardschuerger3214
      @richardschuerger3214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Remember that these comments are from someone who spent their life practicing epee as prep for duels instead of training for war.

  • @lukewilliams8548
    @lukewilliams8548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This sword feels like it stands out as special. It also can fit nicely what we like about swords in the modern day, so in that sense it could be the perfect sword for some people. I'd say there are probably many "perfect swords" that hit sweet spots on all their trade offs in ways that go together to perform beautifully at their purpose, and this is one of them.
    I want to elaborate on that. The ideas are only partially developed, but I hope to inspire some thought.
    Maybe instead of the saying "the perfect sword" we should say "a perfect sword". Maybe instead of trying to find "the best sword" we should try to come up with a list of "perfect swords". Not types of swords like saber or long sword, but specific models, like the 1887 Austrian heavy calvary sword (or whatever this one was) or the Albion Principe (not to say that is a perfect sword, but just what came to mind as a modern example).
    There can be multiple sweet spots when making a particular trade off, which one is best depends on what goes best with the other trade offs chosen and the intended application. For example, a wider blade is beneficial for cutting but on the sword in the video it would be too heavy. Maybe a sword is good as its type, for example "a perfect rapier". Maybe a sword is good for particular uses/settings.
    A basket hilted broadsword is good at giving full hand protection at the cost of hand movement, but it's supposed to do that, that's just it's type and it worked well in that particular application. However the sword in the video had a basket hilt that sacrificed a little bit a protection to allow full hand movement, and that seems overall better somehow.
    I think what's special about this sword is our preferences in the modern day. We have access to just about all the types of swords in history and they're used for recreational purposes, not actual combat with the intent to harm. I most often see one on one unarmored combat, no shields, try to get a proper strike to your opponent. I think that's what a rapier is for, but I guess we see other swords in use and all the ways to cut and it looks more exciting and we want to do that too. There are things I've noticed in modern sword use and preference that match up with all the design details of the sword in the video, as if the sword was designed for our use in the modern day. I think it resonates with us in that way and that is why it feels special, and could for us be the perfect sword.

  • @phiengley
    @phiengley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I wasn't convinced until you dispensed with the sheath, damn that's an interesting (and cool) blade

  • @b.h.abbott-motley2427
    @b.h.abbott-motley2427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This sword strikes me as quite similar to George Silver's short sword. Silver specified a 37-40in blade suitable for both cut & thrust with a basket hilt that allows holding it in something like a sabre grip. He recommend this thumb-up grip for his variable fight, especially when facing the long rapier. You can find a number of 16th-century British basket hilts with long, narrow blades that seem to match Silver's description. I'm pleased to see this basic weapon design continued into the 18th century.

  • @flavioc.bannwart1216
    @flavioc.bannwart1216 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for your detailed explanation.

  • @kak_again5395
    @kak_again5395 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That might be the most beautiful sword I have ever seen

  • @_malprivate2543
    @_malprivate2543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The guard looks like a ribcage so now I just want a goth version witha skull-shaped pommel...

  • @hemaccabe4292
    @hemaccabe4292 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this video. Thank you.

  • @dreembarge
    @dreembarge 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another excellent video. Thanks, man.

  • @joel466
    @joel466 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    That ribcage shaped guard reminds me of the 1650s 'mortuary sword'.

  • @lengordon1362
    @lengordon1362 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Love the enthusiasm. Very nice sword.

  • @darkwaveatheist
    @darkwaveatheist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    As a lefty, I approve of this design.

    • @darkmoonmiracle
      @darkmoonmiracle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I, also a lefty, also approve of this design.

    • @cheapknight1293
      @cheapknight1293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      As a lefty I agree with the above statements

    • @astahfirula
      @astahfirula 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      As a lifelong member of the lefty society, i must also raise my approval of this design.

    • @pleasuresofthedamned5245
      @pleasuresofthedamned5245 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I assume you are talking left handed and not political left?

    • @1johnnygunn
      @1johnnygunn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@pleasuresofthedamned5245 no, Scotty don't! Scotty nes pas. No.

  • @CraigLYoung
    @CraigLYoung 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @ANDREAS2786
    @ANDREAS2786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My favourite sword is British 1821 Light Cavalry saber which you Matt Easton introduced me to through your videos

    • @stephenbennett7235
      @stephenbennett7235 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd be very miffed at having my 1796P taken off me for an 1821P though

  • @lokai7914
    @lokai7914 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating! Thank you very much for this vid.

  • @deforesttappan6478
    @deforesttappan6478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Perfect to the eye of the beholder. Xanathar quite looking at me like that. It also dipands on your idea of perfect.

  • @cadiastands3308
    @cadiastands3308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    This may not be a popular opinion on this channel, but I think determining if a weapon is the best sword or not is going to depend heavily on context.

    • @Yarblocosifilitico
      @Yarblocosifilitico 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      that is outrageous good sir, I challenge you to a duel with throwing pommels

    • @spiffyracc
      @spiffyracc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Tell me a context where the spadroon isn't the best option. I'm waiting...

    • @temujin5743
      @temujin5743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No not heavily, but only a little bit, this sword one of the best designes I know, and I dont see in which context it would be bad

    • @secondaryfront
      @secondaryfront 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@temujin5743 The context here is "being a cavalry sword and doing a thing that cavalry sword must do". Did you try to use it on horseback? Tested it resistance to breaking and to stucking in oponent's body? How handy is this weapon when you are trying switch the pistols to this one? How exousting for weapon and user is prolonged skirmishing? Is this sword cheap and easy in conservation and if not - do cheaper swords could do intended job as good as this one? How about handling it in full galope? There is a wide areas where other designs could outmatch it in intended work and you wont know before testing it.

    • @richardschuerger3214
      @richardschuerger3214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I see what you did there

  • @jakeandrews9158
    @jakeandrews9158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for covering the 1788 hc. I love the 88 series and was excited to see you cover it. The 88, both lc and hc, have been somewhat in the shadows of the 96s undeservedly I believe. In fact one of my favorite hussar style sabers is a German import 88 light cavalry, not much hand protection but the stirup hilt sure looks clean.

  • @heavymetal19610
    @heavymetal19610 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow....it's beautiful and functional! Thank you for the lesson, cheers!

  • @geebards
    @geebards 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review.

  • @mikecostigan9913
    @mikecostigan9913 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is one of the most beautiful tools I have ever seen.

  • @zoukatron
    @zoukatron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I saw the guard, I thought, "Yep, that is a pretty damn well designed guard." I saw the blade come out... my jaw dropped. To be fair, it is bigger than what my personal tastes run to, but DAMN!!!

  • @JariB.
    @JariB. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Matt! This is nothing less than a simplified Schiavona. The hilt may look different- but as you can imagine neither gets in the way. The sole drawback I've found with my Schiavona however, is the weight and conparatively short blade (the total length only being 102cm, usable blade 82-84cm). Though, there are later (19th century) Mexican examples with a narrower blade, more towards the one you've got here. And those, I'd imagine, are the neigh-on-perfect balance. Though you'd have to compare them personally if you'd want to make any definite statement for your personal preference.

    • @Overlord2309
      @Overlord2309 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I was going to say, it reminds me of my Schiavona. I would love to see what he has to say about the differences. The weight is cumbersome, but Schiavonas were some of the most preferred swords in 16-17th southern European mercenaries.

    • @MS-wd3ls
      @MS-wd3ls 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have links to any examples of these Mexican Schiavonas?

    • @jesuizanmich
      @jesuizanmich 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think that's what he's saying. He said it's like a broadsword, but with less bars on the hilt. Since Schiavonas are broadswords, I think it's fair to say he's including them.
      (In the Wikipedia page for basket-hilted swords you can see the 1788 Heavy Cavalry Sword next to a Schiavona for comparison. They are very similar things.)

    • @marcomaiano
      @marcomaiano 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly what I was thinking!

  • @Miller_Time
    @Miller_Time 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought a reproduction of Charles III sword made in Toledo, Spain. He died in 1788. I'm glad you like this blade as well. I was able to pick it up for very cheap. It apparently has a 34 inch blade but looks exactly the same as this

  • @HazzaTheFox
    @HazzaTheFox 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's amazing. You can even SEE the heavy momentum it has, and yet there you are swinging it with the ease of a parade baton!

  • @nuzzo300
    @nuzzo300 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful piece!

  • @Aczie042
    @Aczie042 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm so glad I saw this video. That is such a badass sword. I want one.

  • @naconisteele9352
    @naconisteele9352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd be blessed to have one!

  • @davepowers3194
    @davepowers3194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I didn’t know I wanted this sword until now…

  • @HistoricalWeapons
    @HistoricalWeapons 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    katana fanboys are mad lol

    • @KickyFut
      @KickyFut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Boy are they on the wrong channel!😅

    • @kennantjessavi7648
      @kennantjessavi7648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Swiss saber is the best

    • @kennantjessavi7648
      @kennantjessavi7648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      katana wasn't even the best japanese sword, tachi was. katana is just more convenient version of tachi

    • @outsideiskrrtinsideihurt699
      @outsideiskrrtinsideihurt699 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kennantjessavi7648 ikr tachi beats the katana in nearly all aspects besides convenience and quick-draw techniques. Kinda sad people don’t know about them

    • @kennantjessavi7648
      @kennantjessavi7648 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@outsideiskrrtinsideihurt699 Yeah especially with Longsword vs katana. It's comparison is rapier vs smallsword. of course the longer one is gonna win.

  • @fohat50
    @fohat50 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice one schola G, that is a real big one

  • @Han-rw9ev
    @Han-rw9ev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the nicest swords I've ever seen.

  • @paulwitter7553
    @paulwitter7553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    No wonder Sharpe preferred to make his 1796 Heavy more like the 1988 one! The handguard on the 1788 would be very difficult to modify for infantry use, though, I think.

    • @rab7034
      @rab7034 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Uh....."1988"?

    • @nexusthenormie5578
      @nexusthenormie5578 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@rab7034 prolly a typo that he missed lol

  • @MRSTEENIE
    @MRSTEENIE ปีที่แล้ว

    You are totally right!!!

  • @shaidrim
    @shaidrim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    A real beauty! The guard remind me early type of “mortuary sword”

  • @technodemic6258
    @technodemic6258 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bow to your expertise. Your postulation works for me.

  • @hansvonmannschaft9062
    @hansvonmannschaft9062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The '96 palash is a real mistery. Specially when considering it came to replace *this* sword shown here. The matter shows that higher-ups being dislodged from the reality of the front lines, well, is definitely not something exclusive to these days' military gear decisions. Great video!

  • @ZeroSalvator
    @ZeroSalvator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a wonderful weapon Matt! There's just one terrible thing about this though, NOW I want one so badly. A original or replica would be wonderful. My only thought about the weight is that unless a sword is absurdly heavy knowing how centrifugal force works on a pendulum to generate a good amount of inertia as you demonstrated can more than make up for the weight. "Let the weight do the work."

  • @TheUncleRuckus
    @TheUncleRuckus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow it's beautiful, I want one now!

  • @Ingeb91
    @Ingeb91 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly, I want this sword for greeting uninvited guests with. It seems just so lively for such a long sword.

  • @thezieg
    @thezieg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding review!

  • @charlesjonestherednecknerd
    @charlesjonestherednecknerd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love sabers. As a colonial (ha) and an Anglophile (one of British/Welsh/Norman descent) I feel an almost genetic connection to these swords. I have a cheap Scottish Basket hilt Broad Sword replica and a cheap Claymore replica as well. I want at the least a good replica of a 18th century British Saber as well. Love your reviews and your older sword drills of practice videos. the circles and wrist ones I just watched them and began practicing them with a cold steel cutlass machete. This is GORGEOUS! I love the blade and the hilt. I concur they were doing progress based on fashion rather than effectiveness. As a former US army MP who went through the changeover from the .45 caliber 1911 to the Berretta M9 9mm in 1990 we felt the same way about that changeover. Funny thing the Marines STILL used the 1911 throughout our own Afghan debacle. Guess they did not like fashion! Oh and I know about the British difficulties in Afghanistan because according to Sir Conan Doyle that is where Dr. Watson served and as a 12 year old I wanted to know about the backstory and learned of Maiwand and that campaign through my research.

  • @beowulfshaeffer8444
    @beowulfshaeffer8444 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Basically the style of cut n thrust I've been looking for for years. Well thanks! Now I know a better search term :)

  • @pizzaparty3901
    @pizzaparty3901 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes I agree. This is the kind of sword I've been looking for, not sure exactly what to call it. But I've always thought it would be hard to beat something with a decent handguard. Then the single edge to double edge blade also seems ideal. I really like the hilt design.

  • @basilbrushbooshieboosh5302
    @basilbrushbooshieboosh5302 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree SG. Totally !!

  • @alphonsofrett2757
    @alphonsofrett2757 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also thanks again for sharing your excellent video and classic cool sword. 😎

  • @Xileph410
    @Xileph410 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a beautiful saber.

  • @not-a-theist8251
    @not-a-theist8251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'd love an 1845 infantry officer's blade and and 1895 hilt.
    But this is absolutely a nice hilt

    • @antivalidisme5669
      @antivalidisme5669 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Funny you mention it, not only because I utterly agree but also because the only sword I've bought from Matt back in 2017 was exactly this.
      And yes I love non regulation designs more than anything else, I have a a ton of pre-1882 / African Army/ prototype French swords in particular, but a British 1845 blade on a 1895 hilt, oh boy!

    • @not-a-theist8251
      @not-a-theist8251 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@antivalidisme5669 just dead gorgous. I dont own a sword yet but this would be #1 on my list

  • @enovos3138
    @enovos3138 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It looks beautiful

  • @skeletorlord621
    @skeletorlord621 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely beautiful sword, I would love to own one

  • @electrominded8372
    @electrominded8372 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should do an in-depth analysis and showcase of a British Light Cavalry 1788 model, I was so close to buying one once...

  • @bigbarkingdog2010
    @bigbarkingdog2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video. Thumbs up. I appreciate this channel. A sword is a tool. Depending on the situation, tool optimization may differ. Here is the USA, where we have a history of Citizen Ownership of firearms, we have similar discussions regarding responsible and effective use of firearms . . . especially handguns for conceal carry. As a former Sabre fencer I understand why Foil, Epee and Sabre fencing all use different swords for good reasons. Good Man. Please keep producing & sharing.

  • @robertlehnert4148
    @robertlehnert4148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, it definitely looks a ver. 2.0 of the Mortuary swords, and I always liked the lines of those, if not the typical balance and handling

  • @thaatecommentar3246
    @thaatecommentar3246 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spot on, that's a beast of a sword.

  • @tommyblackwell3760
    @tommyblackwell3760 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly, it looks much like what I think George Patton was going for when he designed the US Model 1913 Cavalry Sabre, though the blade's a good bit longer. Thanks for sharing!

  • @markfergerson2145
    @markfergerson2145 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reminds me of he three tradeoff elements of most weapons systems: offensive capacity, defensive capacity, and speed/mobility/maneuverability.
    The idea is most often applied to complex military machines like ships, aircraft and tanks bu it applies to swords too.
    All are compromises, and it seems to me that that sword embodies your personal favorite set of compromises that apply to your favorite style of sword fighting.
    Not saying you are wrong mind you, just pointing out that the Powers-That-Were probably had a different set of compromises in mind, and admittedly such powers make huge blunders as often as having huge successes when changing their minds, and we only know which is which long after the fact.

  • @creativedegree
    @creativedegree 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    guys check out that article he linked in the description. its SUPER good!

  • @senatuspopulusqueromanus3011
    @senatuspopulusqueromanus3011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    It’s definitely a beautiful sword, and I don’t understand why they would want to change it

    • @kennantjessavi7648
      @kennantjessavi7648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Dumb politicians probably

    • @chrisroberts1440
      @chrisroberts1440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The new one was cheaper to produce?

    • @senatuspopulusqueromanus3011
      @senatuspopulusqueromanus3011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@chrisroberts1440 I wonder how many men have died throughout history due to inferior tools they were “cheaper to produce”…

    • @chrisroberts1440
      @chrisroberts1440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@senatuspopulusqueromanus3011 then again how many have survived because the opposite side had cheap equipment?

    • @ericamborsky3230
      @ericamborsky3230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@senatuspopulusqueromanus3011 Then again, I wonder how many men were saved because they could be issued with a sword that they otherwise would not be because of the cost. Or were saved because the army did not cheap out on their carbines or saddles in order to issue a better sword.

  • @patrickselden5747
    @patrickselden5747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You're right, Matt: it's an extremely effective design, and it should never have been replaced.

    • @secondaryfront
      @secondaryfront 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are there any field testing experiments that shows comparison in its performance in intended deployement? (Use in cavalry skirmishing, tests how easy it stucks in oponents body, test of it's durability/fragility, how well it handles in horseback, how fast you can switch this weapon to pistol/cavalry riffle etc.?)

  • @cedricburkhart3738
    @cedricburkhart3738 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how it looks I think it's an amazing sword.

  • @MarieCrossbow
    @MarieCrossbow 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @saadabbas8976
    @saadabbas8976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It’s AK 47 of the swords. ⚔️

  • @kfgrip
    @kfgrip 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful weapon!

  • @CharlieBell-lr1zx
    @CharlieBell-lr1zx ปีที่แล้ว

    I need that for my collection most definitely that sword is beautiful 🤩 ⚔️🗡️

  • @JamesLaserpimpWalsh
    @JamesLaserpimpWalsh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Military acquisition often has other considerations to make. Ease of production or basic cheapness being pretty high on that list. I am guessing the newer sword was cheaper to acquire for starters. Cheers for the upload Matt.

  • @mikethomas5412
    @mikethomas5412 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful sword.
    I would love to have one.

  • @bruceparr1678
    @bruceparr1678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cavalry swords were longer because they could be. On a horse the scabbard hung low enough to draw a long sword. My dad was a Captain in the 1/15th Royal NSW Lancers. I remember some of the short blokes having trouble clearing the scabbard on parades. I am talking about 1960's. BTW I got into a bit of trouble when I went berko on the garden plants with dads sword.

  • @LogainLbue
    @LogainLbue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Sharpe would approve this cleaver

    • @spamhonx56
      @spamhonx56 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Before i got a good look at the thumbnail i really did wonder if he'd got a 1796 pattern and this was going to be a jokey video.

    • @mrmarmellow563
      @mrmarmellow563 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol TOTES

  • @orsettomorbido
    @orsettomorbido 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a really cool sword! I like it a lot!

  • @thecocktailian2091
    @thecocktailian2091 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That truly is a brilliant weapon. I love the blade with both Backsword and Cut and Thrust elements. Perfect length if you ask me( being a rapier specialist). Just a thought, while you stated it was both a calvary and a troopers sword, It sure seems more a footmans blade.

  • @danielbryant8084
    @danielbryant8084 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely gorgeous. 💯

  • @squatch2461
    @squatch2461 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Agree with you completely.

  • @tanguito0007
    @tanguito0007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    beautiful sword wherever you look!

  • @bernatpanxeta
    @bernatpanxeta 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a french cavalry saber from the first half of XIX century. This saber is very interesting!

  • @jamesm1
    @jamesm1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating how going into the late 1800s-WWI, cavalry sword returned to more this style blade vs curved, but with a bit narrower blade.

  • @theeddorian
    @theeddorian 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hope Windlass comes out with a replica soon.

  • @taylor_green_9
    @taylor_green_9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's a lovely sword! I always think "how much more hand protection could you put on it if you replaced all the steel on the hilt with titanium?". This design might be the perfect specimen for that experiment. It's likely that all the gaps in the guard could be closed.

  • @steretsjaaj2368
    @steretsjaaj2368 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Matt, could you please make one about forwardly recurved swords or weapons? They're fascinating and I wonder about their functions; pros and cons..

  • @GaveMeGrace1
    @GaveMeGrace1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful sword and I’d b proud to carry one of I rode with heavy cavalry.

  • @thomaswilkinson3241
    @thomaswilkinson3241 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do not fence with sabre, yet I still love this thing. If given the chance I would buy it.

  • @davidm3190
    @davidm3190 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the Sword that Bernard Cornwell's character Sharpe carries I think

  • @adwarfsittingonagiantsshoulder
    @adwarfsittingonagiantsshoulder 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It looks cool !