Condor Terrasaur - Destroys the Garberg with FACTS and LOGIC?!
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*Further review notes*
The original Terrasaur knife was sold under the ‘Off The Map Knives’ brand, also called the Terrasaur and first debuted in 2009 as a collaborative design between Joe and Brian Andrews. Examples are easily found via google image search. This version is the same pattern with a plastic handle. I guess you could say its an ‘iteration’ of that knife.
Mora Garberg does have some advantages in its fit and finish and is a great knife. I try to answer as many comments as I can on my newer videos, but please watch it all before you say I didn’t address something I, in fact, did!
Some pros/cons and neutrals I feel like highlighting:
Garberg beats the Terrasaur in slight fit and finish.
The DLC coating also protects more of the blade toward the edge.
The sharpened spine is a little more sharp on the Garberg.
Both factory edges were about the same keeness out of box.
The steels feel about the same during continued use in terms of edge retention and stability.
The sheaths are about as good as each other. Multimount (Garberg) is possibly worth more to people looking to mount the knife. The condor has a better thumb launch.
Both have a lifetime warranty.
The condor is half the price.
It roughly meets the needs of me, a user who doesn’t claim to be carving rocking horses, complex deadfall traps, yurts or ebony skull lanyard beads on the regular with my knife.
Usage may vary if your skills, either real or inagined, take your knives to a higher needs place. They both make feathersticks, stock remove wood, split kindling, pry and lever bark off trees, cut food and cardboard about as good as the other.
I will gladly spend more money on a knife simply on aesthetics or brand loyalty myself. Totally get it. Play nice, Mora fans!
its foolish to spend more for a knife when the less expensive knife is just as good or even better...An expensive knife doesn't make it a good knife
Your notes match mine, I also recently got both a Terrasaur and Garberg.
Fit and finish and the spines are noticeably better on the Garberg. Sheath wise I don't like the Terrasaur plastic, it's a cheap soft easily marred material I don't think is going to last in a usable sense comparatively long.
For a first time knife or a vehicle backup I think the Terrasaur is a great investment due to the price. I definitely wouldn't leave my more expensive Garberg in the car, or hand it to someone in a teaching situation.
I love the "in the knife lab" sign. It makes your testing results official.. lol keep up the good videos.
The terrasaur makes my hand cramp up when carving. The garberg handle fills my palm better and prevents cramps, especially when I choke up on it to carve. The condor terrasaurs price makes it where I can put one in all my cars and bags for occasional use but the garberg is what I take camping or backpacking.
I think the way a knife feels in your hand is almost more important than anything else.
Shed a tear for Australian knife prices :'(
😭
Same with Scotland pal. Cazy prices for carbon knives... 🤔
@@gdoldays9964 I paid £100 quid 💷 for my Garberg carbon with leather sheaf. I’m in Port Glasgow 😉 and I paid £86 for my Strongarm
@@alexandercarder2281 The strongarm is strong but I cannot put it to any particular use.Can you?
Shed a tear for Australian prices. It is not just the knife sellers that gouge you.
As of now:
Condor Terrasaur 45€
Mora Garberg stainless 53.80€ (60€ with multimount)
Mora Garberg carbon 70€ (including the multimount)
If I didn't have a steel preference, I'd go with the Garberg stainless. It's the better knife (which doesn't mean the Terrasaur is bad). I expect the Garberg carbon to come down in price some more next year. But even now I would prefer it over the Condor. The price difference is worth the overall better quality and ergonomics. But that's personal preference. I own all three knives multiple times. I find myself using the Garberg more often.
Nice to see Condor moving up to 1095 from 1070. I think you nailed it on this knife filling a gap.
A better comparison might be against the Terävä Jääkäripuukko which is at a more similar price point. I spelled Terävä Jääkäripuukko right off the top of my head by the way. Definitely not a copy/paste.
just what i was thinking but still a good comparison with the value of the overpriced garberg
My favorite knife that I do not YET own.
Lol the spelling. Pretty sure even the Fins have trouble with it. Thinking the same thing. They are differentially heat treated too (from memory).
Agreed. BTW, technically not differentially treated according to their site; they are harder below the surface, that’s why they grind the spine down. But Pete said exactly what I’ve been saying ever since the Terrasaur roared to life: this is going to be what finally drops the price on the Garberg. I’m the biggest Mora fanboy there is. But I never bought into the hype around the Garberg. And to answer the question of why the carbon steel is more than the stainless, that’s because people will pay more. Mora is excellent at what a company should be excellent at: making money. People are going to hype the Garberg and hype carbon steel so Mora is going to charge whatever the market will bear. Well, now we have something called competition. And competition is always a good thing. Despite what the socialists tell you.
Tony Canniffe hey Tony. How you doin this fine day?
Just the fact that everyone is comparing a $42 knife to a $90 mora is quite telling.
$60 vs $180 here in Australia.
£49 vs £68 here in the U. K. Today!!
El salvador isn't known for good labor practice. Sweden is. That's why the mora cost more.
They're great for the price I've beat the heck out of my terrasaur and not my garberg because I can buy two of the condors for the price of my one garberg
$189 for a Garberg?? $79 here in the States. That's just crazy man!!
$240 here in NZ!
@@Natecoxy $55 right now on Amazon... its the stainless version though...
Haha one of your dogs was having a blast. the other was like, 'I don't know what we are doing anymore'.
Nice review too. I hadn't seen that knife before.
The DBK boys reviewed the condor terrasaur, when it came to feather-sticking the terrasaur blew mickkey B’s mind. “It feathersticks as well as my best feathersticking knife, what I thought was my best feathersticking knife”. The poor garberg is outclassed
Hahaha, a wet fart blows Mickeys mind!.
A much better and more honest review than those given by 2 of the instructors at the path finder school on their channels, I suspect Mora patronage has a great deal to do with that.
bad hat I love the pathfinder school stuff but the corporal and grey bearded green beret are both huge garberg fanboys. The reviews were very bias which I was very disappointed to see. They both have great content but the fanboy bias was disappointing.
I bought a Kansbol cos I refused to pay asking price for Garberg, for example basic Garberg £109.95, basic Kansbol £39.95 both stainless
Glad your dogs are more mellow than one I had; years ago I put on a Halloween mask and walked into the den and my Dobie nearly lost his mind, I came within seconds of having my junk ripped off...ah, sweet memories. Though I've never handled a Condor, it looks like a sturdy, comfortable fixed blade for hard use.
This is not something that would likely come up in the Australian context, but the Swedish knifemakers (I am thinking of Mora and Fällkniven in particular) have made a point of choosing handle plastics that perform well at cold temperatures. I guess this would be worth testing out ... to see if the Terrasaur handle becomes hard as rock and slick below freezing as compared to the Garberg handle.
Based on the title of the video and the intro, am I the only one that was legitimately hoping for a review of the Dinosaur helmet?
It won't hold an edge, but does have good rust resistance.
After 6 months of use I have the following thoughts about the Terrasaur:
1. The sheath sucks, full stop. The knife sits way too deep in the sheath and doesn't want to come out. The thumb ramp doesn't help the slightest bit getting the knife out. It should be on the opposite side. Therefore, I will make a Kydex sheath for the Terrasaur. The original sheath is completely useless.
2. The blade is actually quite nice. If you get a decent Terrasaur (the quality of the blade, especially the grind varries a lot), you will have a well made blade with a decent grind that works well for wood work. Some people prefer the more pronounced belly of the Garberg, some prefer the less pronounced belly of the Terrasaur (which is similar to a Mora Companion). I wouldn't pick a clear winner between the Garberg and the Terrasaur, but the Garberg's blade overall feels better in terms of quality. So the blade comes down to personal preference. I like them both.
3. The handle of the Terrasaur not only feels less comfortable compared to the Garberg, it also lacks traction. While both handles are not rubberized, the Garberg has a nice texture which provides good traction while the texture of the Terrasaur is slippery in comparison. It's more for the look of the knife instead of really providing a better grip. On top of that I prefer larger handles, which the Garberg happens to have. I also like the symmetric design of the Garberg which feels perfect to me in all grip variations. On top of that, the handle of the Terrasaur is not very robust. You better never hit the handle when batoning wood. There is only a very thin layer of plastic above the blade spine where it sits in the handle. A few hits with a piece of wood and that plastic will break / split exposing the spine inside the handle. On the long run, that's not gonna hold up very well. So better be carefull when batoning and stay away from the handle. The Garberg on the other side doesn't mind you hitting the handle for hours and hours with a baton (not that I would recommend doing that). The handle of the Garberg is made of polyamide which is a very tough plastic material. It really can take a beating without showing any sign of abuse worth noticing. While I'm not really into batoning (aside from making smaller kindling), the toughness of the Garberg's handle to me is a big plus.
The Terrasaur really is not a bad knife for the price. The blade is really nice (if you get a good one), the handle design is decent for typical bushcrafting tasks. But I highly recommend getting another sheath for the Terrasaur and not abusing the handle near the spine as it is way too thin / weak in that area. A little more plastic would have made quite a difference in that area. After all, you get what you're paying for and for most tasks the Terrasaur is a more than decent knife.
Thanks! In just a few words: you get what you pay for. 😎
Yeah sheath is not the best but I made a kydex one for mine. The knife I can not fault
My Terrasaur arived with a piss poor grind,it was so bad the point of the blade looked like a chisel.
I have an original Terrasaur knife made by Off the Map Knives. It was my first quality knife and had it shipped to Australia in 2010.. It cost $200 USD shipped, which was a lot of money at the time. Brian Andrews's waiting list was 9 months. It has one of the best edges, amazing for feather sticks etc and so easy to sharpen. The sheath was awesome too. I wanted to buy the Bushcrafter model but Brian decided to stop knife making which was such a pity.
His blades pop up for sale some times on bushcraftusa.com
@@snydrman i have noticed that. Six months ago on bushcraftusa he posted about setting up shop again, not sure if he followed through?
@@gsrossco no I don’t think so but one of his blades came up for sale the other day. I had a few he made a great quality knife I miss his work
Great review and great channel. It is nice to see a knife review that does not copy exactly the format for every other one. People seem to have forgotten how weird it is to see only hands of an anonymous person on a screen as a trusted source that informs your choices for purchasing knives. Also, it is nice to see content that does not focus on knives that are more suited as jewelry or ones that are used to only open envelopes and Amazon boxes. Thanks -
Man, that quick speed plastic rundown , with that pause after together with xoom haha
If anyone needs a sign to buy the terrasaur it is at 7:00
"The edge retention on the steel if very similar if not the same as the mora garberg"
I'm a huge fan of Joe. I'm really glad he got Imacasa to start treating 1095.
First you call it the Finn Wolf, then you call it the Finn Bear. It's the Finn Hawk, damnit! FINN HAWK!
(I'm telling Lynn).
Finn Chicken
Finn Rat
@@CedricAda Finn Pheasant.
Finn Pork
Great video and review. I found the same things in my review. I like the blade and handle profile of the Terrasaur better than the Garberg. I like how the Terrasaur has more of a U.K. style Woodlore shape to it compared to the Garbergs more classic Sami Leuku Puukko shape with more drastic belly towards the end of the blade. good stuff mate
40 seconds in and I'm already hitting like just for the dino dance!
The dogs reaction was pretty funny.
Improve your bushcrafting skills with this ONE WEIRD TRICK!!!
All the bushcrafters hate this guy!
Garbergs are $79-83 USD on Amazon in the US right now.
Edited: I have never gotten the hype on these. I picked up my carbon Bushcraft Black for $33 and never saw a need to go to the Garberg. All Moras are about indestructible. Heck my Companion in carbon steel does everything I need a knife this size to do. If I need something just slightly more heavy duty, I have a dozen knives to choose from that are more "hd" than a Garberg.
Another good video though. I really appreciate all of the ones you do. You and Advanced Knife Bro are as of now the only knife channels I am subscribed to. Happily.
“if that is something in your imagination or factuality you would use your knife for” 😂
My knives and I love watching your videos. I bring them out, and prop them up comfortably on the couch with me, with some popcorn and coffee. This video seem to upset my Mora's, though. They went back in their sheaths about three minutes into the video. They've enjoyed every other video. Cheers.
Terrasaur is a grest value. However, Garberg is the only one with stainless option. The Stainless Garberg is overlooked over the carbon but it is cheaper and not significantly worse. It also having a unique stainless steel among the Mora line is a plus whereas the carbon steel is same as from the Bush.
i love my many moras but i find myself always going back to the terrasaur. i want to give one to each my mates! cant go wrong!
For real, this is such a great gift for fellow outdoors enthusiasts. I’ve given 3 and it’s a smash hit every time.
When your dogs have a better sense of humor than some of your viewers. Well done Pete. The resting arm got me.
It'd be nice to a comparison between either of these two and the more traditional Condor Bush-Lore.
Thumbs up for the cut, beat up, scuffed manly hands with short, practical, un-groomed, non-feminine nails. Thank god for small miracles with just a very few TH-cam reviewers & presenters. This folks is a man who actually uses his knives & apparently works for a living.
Thanks for the review, it convinced me to buy the terrasaur on amazon right after watching.
Hi. I am fairly new here and enjoying the crap out of your reviews. Love the knives chosen and the style. Good health and stay safe
I have the Fiddleback Forge version of this knife. I'm surprised they changed the handle shape so much, but still looks like a great knife.
I got my first 2 mora companions for my wife and myself. It will pair will with my J. Adams MoD knife and 3 peice British Army Clasp knife.
If you petina the blade using vinegar it will help to keep it from rusting.
I purchased 2 of the Terrasaur's in black, months apart. On both, I had to remove some plastic "sharp" burrs from the handle, "dull" the protruding metal at the pommel that was stabbing my palm, sharpen spine and strop blade. This is a really good knife!
At this price point (I paid ~$43 @ KnifeCenter) I think a better comparison would be to the Mora Bushcraft black (~$40 total @ Third party/Amazon; "Amazon" is charging ~$53 inc. tax). The Garberg is more than twice the price at $90. Mora fit and finish is better, for sure. But, you are getting a full tang Garberg style knife, for a Mora Black price. I own all of these. I still choose the Mora 2000 (for all around use) and the Terava 110 or 140 (for wood Prep). Just for Sh*ts and grins - The Terava 110 fits perfectly, like a glove, in the Morakniv Bushcraft: Black or Forrest sheath.
The bushcraft is closer to the terrasaur in price and that’s it. The garberg is a much closer direct comparison.
@@chriskp This thread is 3 years old. I was making a price comparison for bushcraft knives around $40.
Quote, "But, you are getting a full tang Garberg style knife, for a Mora Black price."
The Garberg carbon was 90 bucks at that time; still is. Yes the Terrasaur is not just close, it is a Condor knock off version of the Garberg carbon. I wouldn't call it a clone, more like real close cousins! They are both great knives.
However, the Garberg is more refined in every way.
I still choose the Mora 2000 and a Glock 78 bayonet just reprofile the edge.
You were drunk when you bought that dinosaur mask, weren't you?
This knife is a really nice find. I definitely see how the Terrasaur matches the Garberg with specs and appearance.
I remember I actually got the Real Steel Bushcraft knife because of a similar vid you did years back.
Don't sell yourself short. You're the best plasticologist you can be.
Well now as a lover of Mora and Conor it was an interesting video to me. It was a fair and unbiased comparison and you are quite right the price tag of a knife is very important to many people who just can't afford the high end blades these days or the prices of the not so high end but still need a blade they can rely on. This was as up close and personal as you can get without being able to play with the blade myself and for that I thank you because now I can go out and buy a Terrasaur with confidence knowing I am onto a winner. Keep up the good work my friend you have no idea what a great help you are (Ok maybe you do by now some one MUST have told you.) when it come to getting a good blade for an affordable price.😁
My girls loved you messen with the dogs! Another nice video man keep up the great content. This should start some conversations up as well
RE: 8:00 Sheath positioning.
Has anyone confirmed if the belt loop can be positioned/indexed down providing an option for IWB carry ?
I can’t think of a time when watching your videos that I didn’t laugh out loud at some point. Keep it up Pete.
Thanks for this review of the Condor Terrasaur and how it compares to the Mora Garberg, very informative.
I hacked my finger open pretty well with the terrasaur last weekend. 11 stitches +glue where it couldn't be stitched. Can confirm its viable for self defense against hand shaped monsters and demons.
I would like to see what’s under the handles please 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
spider Outdoors THIS! So much this!
1. The Garberg is also ambidextrous. Just turn the knife 180 while putting it in the sheath.
2. You didnt mention the build quality, lots of reviewers spoke about shoddy handles, moulding issues.
3. Buying European > buying Southamerican (IMHO).
So basically the Terrasaur isnt better than the Garberg except for the price. Its like saying “why buy a Ferrari when you can ride around in a Yugo, same thing”.
i definitely did speak about both the ambidexterity of the knives and the build quality of the garberg being a bit better. Im not saying the terrasaur is better, im saying its an almost stride for stride as a performer and its half the price
Pete, you are so right about that! It's like comparing Yugo to a Rolls Royce!
Ferrari and yugo? Put the same amount of mileage on them and they both will be in the shop routinely with the ferrari in the shop more...shoulda said toyota 😉
If you leave the Condor in the same shed, its handle may fare worse than the Garberg. Polypropylene's melting point is lower than polyamide's. On the other hand, we're not talking melting point, but softening point. Possible to compare them, but these temperatures are well outside the intended use.
Hard to beat Mora Companion HD for bang for the buck. Garberg over Condor might make more sense if stainless is desired. Kansbol or 2000 might make even more sense. I own all the aforementioned Moras.
Thomas Maloney the 2000 to kansbol switcaroo was a price gouge on moras part. Let’s double the price after a name and slight handle change.
The main difference between polyamide and polypropylene is that the most recognizable products the PA is a base of are the bullet proof vests, while for the PP are... buckets.
A coincidence one might said? I don't think so. ;-)
Besides this, the finish of Terrasaur compared to Garberg is like you've compared the finish of Volvo to... some car ever made in El Salvador.
Yes. Obviously the Morakniv is quality all around. They don't cut corners on any of their products. The consistency and quality has been proven time and time again yet some ppl still think a cheaper option is just as good. Your vehicle comparison is very accurate.
Poliamide Is not as flexible as polipropilen, but Is way more tenacious and allowes better finish in molded pieces. Polipropilen wears off faster.
I own both. I find the Terrasaur design outperforms the garberg design, IMHO. Mora has better steel.
Thanks Pete I will check out this knife, really loved seeing you play with the dogs with the mask on that was fun put 😁
you are the king dad of youtube. this is the only thing that makes me laugh anymore
Leave the Garberg on the store shelf and buy a Terrasaur and a Mora Robust. You have two great Bushcraft knives and a cheap lunch for the price of the Garberg.
Hey dude there’s a guy impersonating a dinosaur on your lawn! Lol👍 great video buddy!
I live in the EU, here a Mora Bushcraft Black is cheaper than Cold Steel Finnhawk (about 35 Euro). A Mora Garberg stainless with all it's fancy multimount + accessories cost about as much as the Terrasaur... Speaking of which, Condor Bushlore with fancy micarta handle is in the same price range (+/-5 Euro, a total of 65 to 70 Euro). They also sell Bushlore blade blanks (20-22 Euro), if you fancy a knife handle of your own. If you are on a budget Hultafors Grovkniv is 9 Euro, while Mora Robust goes for 10-11 Euro. And so... It seems shipping accross the world DOES INCREASE prices!... who knew huh? =)
The bit with your dogs was funny!
Thank you for that opening. It made my day just a little bit better :-)
What was the song from?
If anyone comes across this the condor terrasaur or the mora bushcraft black? Almost the same price what are you choosing?
Heresy!!
But honesty as well.
Thank-you.
Good video man. Love the leaning on the counter special effects. That's what kept me watching. #subbed
nice intro pete! always funny, the knife seems like a nice no bullshit rustattractor ;]
The Garberg in my area can be purchased for 75$ (U.S.)...
On knife design the terrasaur is to me a lot better. I wish the Garberg looked like the Terrasaur. The finish in the Garberg and track record is better. On knifes like this I sharpen the whole bevel but keep secondary bevel (micro bevel) The secondary bevel I do however transform from a V to a convex. I get a convex microbevel reducing the drag, make it easier to sharpen, while keeping the strength. I do this by sharpen in hand by scences; touch/feel and ocular observation. Beeing less dependant on other thand primitive sharpening routines improve the chances on keeping the blade sharp and stable.
and the answeer is ... Terava Jaakaripuukko 110 :-D
But which 1095 has better edge retention? Mora's or Condor's?
Without a doubt, your best and most hilarious intro ever!
This knife is a great budget tool. I like it.
I love his wranglerstar title parodys xD
stainless actually holds an edge longer
thanks
It's like a Garberg that performs slightly better and costs half as much.
Rewatched for the intro.
How to handles compare? I have goofy large hands and that's the more importation thing to me.
Then go for the Garberg. I have glove size 9-10 and the Garberg fits my hands much better.
Garberg fan boy here...not butt hurt Condor filled the full tang price point niche most mora fan boys wanted from mora...so I bought two. And peeps comparing an expensive car thats always in the shop to a cheap car isn't exactly a good comparison.
I like the edge on the condor better, but mine came with a big burr from factory. The fit and finish is better on most moras
Wow really fun knife video!!! :D
Love your humor! Great review!
Love your channel! Cheers, from Texas.
Where exactly is the Condor made?
Enjoyed the review. Have you seen the new Spyderco Province? Can you review one when it becomes available?
My man. Better be watch the summer season of anime. Demon slayer is gettin gud. That condor Looks like a good one. Would buy.
Knives and anime Pete is cool!
I love dogs too.
"Factually" the Garberg is the tougher knife all around (with lifetime warranty), but the Terrasaur is a more economic option.
TH-camVoice “tougher knife?” Is there a destruction test to prove that? Also both have a lifetime warranty.
No need for that. Better build quality, sturdier point, more material (and tougher plastic) on the handle and slightly thicker stock automatically make the Garberg tougher overall. The difference will not be huge, though.
Does it matter? Who is going to be out in the woods long enough to wear out either knife?
@@aldenbarbieri There is no denying the Garberg is a tougher knife by design, but if you're ok with a shit fit and finish, blatant Garberg knock off that's made in El Salvador, go for it.
Followers of the Church of St. Baton should go with the Garberg. Mora's PA is much more resilient to damage if you 'accidentally' hit the handle with your holy stick. On top of that, there's only a very thin layer of PP on top of the spine of the Terrasaur. So a few hits are all it needs to expose the spine in that area. The Garberg with its symmetric handle has lots of material on top of the spine.
whats the angle of the blade edge and micro bevel?
Have you tried the Benchmade Foray? Review it pretty please
The terrasaur is lacking material along the top of the handle compared to the garberg, which could have a tendency to crack from extended use, especially batoning.
Doug Johnson you must love those extra peptides 😂🤣
GARBERG 159 to 189 Canadian before taxes depending on sheath option
TERRASAUR 53 Canadian before taxes
To me it's a clear win for the TERRASAUR at 1/3 the cost!!!
I own 8 or 9 different MORAS and love them but could not bring myself to buy the 2000 or kansbol due to price......the garberg? Get out of town with those fanboy prices......it would be nice to see its price come down to reality and I would check it out
I've a like simply for screwing with the dogs lol
All of the above plus Joe Flowers has a really cool name.
Yeah, it is. He actually changed it, because Joe Weed just gave him too much trouble...
ANOTHER GREAT Vid 👍💚 Thanks Pete
Jakaripukko still the 👑
Good jokes in this one! You really got me.
You had me at Raaawwr!!
Plastitition= Plastic technician.. sounds good, but I just made it up. 😆
Why is this channel called Cedric@ Ada when all we see is a Cedric?
those two dogs i was playing with at the start?
Yellow= Cedric
Black = Ada