The Condor Terrasaur - A Bootlegged Garberg?
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If you're testing out Garberg competitors, you gotta get the Terävä Jääkäripuukko for review.
I'm Not. I just saw this and presented the facts. Thanks for watching
@Corporals Corner How does liking a video effect the channel, specifically? Another tuber said it made a real difference. Enquiring minds want to know. Also, I liked this one.
liking or disliking gives the video traction and allows it to be searched better
2 is 1 one is none I carry plenty of cutting redundancy’s
The Terrasaur long pre-dates the Gardberg as a custom knife. I purchased my Terrasaur as a Joe Flower's/Brian Andrews (Off the Map Outfitters) back in the early 2000's. At that time mora's were restricted to the companion, clipper and usual rat tang knives. The Condor Terrasaur is a descendant of the custom knife. Since Joe Flowers is a main designer from Condor it seems like this one was a natural for him to incorporate. I still have my custom Flowers/Andrews knife and it remains one of the best handles I've ever experienced. The Condor terrasaur seems a bit difficult to locate in Canada, it is made of much cheaper materials (like most Condor's) but I bet the grip is good.
Haha
The Terrasaur was designed by Joe Flowers and released as a model through Fiddleback Forge years ago. Joe brought it over to Condor for a mass produced version.
Mark E
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which makes this video hype!
Let there be a sticky giving this information
Great job, you didn’t trash the condor just showed the facts. Thanks again for honestly informing your viewers
I wouldn't do that unless I was attacked. Thanks for watching
Thank you for helping me make the right decision. I appreciate this video! And I appreciate your time! Thanks.
I've watched alot of different bush craft videos from all different types of people , all over the world . This one is by far my favorite channel , with Dave cantuberry my second favorite . Maybe it's just me , maybe it's that im a grunt and use these same skills . Unlike other videos , this channel is straight to the point . What you need and have to do to survive. Not what you could possibly do . Semper Fi brother.
Its a budget-minded, Garberg-inspired knife. Got it.
But...where else can you get these features for so little money?
Carbon steel, Scandi grind, 1/8" blade stock, full tang, square spine, hunting style blade geometry, blade edge all the way to handle, comfortable weatherproof handle, sheath included.
Given that it isnt a direct copy of the Garberg, it is definetly a welcome addition to the market, especially at that price point.
If Condor can refine and improve thier manufacturing processes, they would be unbeatable.
Opinions Vary. Thanks for watching
I own the Terrasaur in orange. It came with no problems. Shaving sharp right out of the box. Glad I got it. Just because something costs less doesn't necessarily mean it's not good.
Exactly, I like both of them, I couldn't afford a garberg back in April so instead I ordered a puukko knife from Finland an man,this thing rocks,rock solid 80crv2 carbon steel, hrc is a 65 I believe, spine thickness is 4mm thick, drop point style an a scandi grind, 5.5 Inches of blade,it's like a mora or mora garberg on steroids, they also have a stainless steel too, 34.99 for the knife an then I also paid 30.00 for a badass leather dangler sheath, still sharp too
Just like Mora has always been affordable, but produced great blades...
It’s a budget knife.... not sure what you were expecting for 40 bucks... abuse it like you stole it. It’s a highly serviceable knife, priced like an 3/4 tang mora. Mine has been great so far.
Just got mine and the finish is a lot better than his. Its not bad for 40. It looks cool, but could have a better finish. The edge geometry on mine looks alright but there's a big burr on the edge straight out of the box. I would compare it to the cold steel finn hawk or kansbol. You cant rlly compare it to the full tang mora that is 2x the price. However, just based on the edge geometry and looks, i like the condor more
@@slyfox4564 I've got a friend that has the Terrasaur, my Mora 2000 chewed it up in comparison tests..
Yes, Mora is more refined, and yes, Condor sought a very close resemblance to Mora. Nevertheless, Mora is about $100, and the Condor is less than $50. Lastly, I like the idea of helping our neighbors to the south with employment. Therefore, the Condor is what I'm going to buy
Not anymore. $47 for the condor and $59 for the mora.
The Condor Line is extensive and is IMpressive, and there are quite a few really appealing designs for a wide variety of applications.
The Terrasauer is more a copy of a Skookum Bush Tool than the Garberg, IMHO. It's about the blade angle sweep specified by Mors Kochanski. Better for feather sticks.
As are all the thousands of bushcraft knives produced since
No one is going to truly compete head-to-head with Mora. They have a lock on the market for this kind of broad-spectrum survival/primitive/bushcraft skills knife that covers most of the bases, and at the price point ($90-$140). It's the king. There will be those competing for that market, and Condor is in a position to do so with a lower price point. If I were buying a blade for my ten-year-old to use and learn, the Terrasaur is a good place to start. You don't buy a Ferrari for a beginner. I'd feel better about a broken Terrasaur than a broken Garberg. Again, it's competition but not the winner, and you'll always have competition.
After using both, I prefer the Condor. It performed better in almost every task and it’s half the price. The only thing the Mora did better was throw sparks, but a couple seconds in the grinder gave the Condor a sharper spine and it performed just as well. My Condor was also sharper and held an edge longer. And I’ve seen some of those same manufacturing defects on my Mora, including the uneven grind.
Your videos are great.Keep it up. I'm a retired US Army veteran and I can always learn something new
I m from Greece, i m very proud to see the phrase Μολών Λαβέ in your t shirt...
It's every citizens duty to remain armed and ready to defend, as much as possible.
Mora Garberg better? Sure it is! But,,,,,, the Terrasaur is half the cost....Heck!! Compared to Bark River, the Mora is lacking.... It all depends on the balance needed, and the price one is willing to pay for it. I would trust both in an emergency. However, I would be cautious of the thin handle spots on the Terrasaur for baton work. Knowing that ahead of time makes this a non issue for me. Is the Terrasaur worth $42?? Absolutely!! Is the Garberg worth $100?? Definitely!! Long term,,, I'll keep my Bark Rivers...
That's Great and Thanks for Watching
Exactly! Someone who finally understands
Good job on the comparison. Thanks
Another outstanding video ! Loved the way you owned your mora bias up front then proceeded to present the 2 products on a level field . My take away is the condor is a decent knife for the money . But as you demonstrated the mora is far superior in fit , finish and attention to detail.
As always thank you !!
thanks for seeing my point, some are triggered by this video. Thanks for watching
I have never owned a Mora, a condor, a big brand name knife. I have a knife that I have edged, honed and kept for my own practices and use for anything I would like to do. I enjoy watching these segments and will maybe one day upgrade my knife but for now my favourite knife is the one that is best for me and my use for it. Thanks Cpl Kelly
It seems to be a good starter knife, has all the key points and half the price.
Great and fair comparison, Kelly. If it's lower quality but half the price, the user will have to decide.
I’ve compared the two and I do prefer the Terrasaur your absolutely right about the production quality but I do like that pukkoesk swept blade shape and thinner blade My first Bushcrafty knife was a Mora the red handled ones but wanted a more robust blade Enter the Garberg but I just fined it to chunky Anyway those are my thoughts on it have great day
My take away from this is that there is definitely more quality control that goes into the garberg than the terrasaur. However it could just be condor rushing to get theirs on the market with quality control to come later. I say this because having seen and used several different condor models, they seemed pretty solid.
You also have to look at the price. 100 bucks for the mora vs 50 for the condor. The condor, while it might not be on par with mora seems functional and solid enough to provide a cheaper entry level knife option for someone new getting into this world **bushcraft, survival, self reliance** that is on a limited budget. The 50 bucks saved by purchasing the condor would allow for additional gear purchases that they might not otherwise have been able to get had they purchased the mora.
Anyways just my two pennies.....but I love the videos...you keep em coming, I’ll keep learning
or buy a quality mora bushcraft black for under $50 then buy additional gear. Thanks for watching
@@recall5811 I forgot all about the bushcraft…..this is why you sir are the corporal and I am but a private...….thanks for the reply and for the awesome videos
Well done Cpl, keep up the great work
I appreciate the demonstration as I've got to bring myself up to speed in the knife world, and admit I know very little,...over 60 years of camping, hunting, trapping and fishing and my knowledge and budgets have limited me to old school folding buck knifes, Schrade pocket knifes, and a couple of old hickory butcher knifes from the early sixties that came from second hand stores years ago that I tweaked a bit and used for fixed blade hunting knifes, but a renewed and invigorated interest in survival and prepping is forcing me to catch up with the times.....thanks for the video.
The Condor is fifty dollars cheaper and only 3/4 as good as the Garberg ! I own the Garberg because I can afford it,if I couldn't afford it I would own the Condor...
then you would have the same problems or you could buy a mora bushcraft black for the same price and have no problems. Thanks for watching
Having recently acquired several Mora knifes, I am pleased with them. They are cheaper than many, if not most, "Survival" knifes and well made. You can certainly pay more for a better knife. I think the biggest upgrades being to the grip/scales and methods of attaching them. I have a Mora in each of my Get-home-bags as well as a "better" SOG. Thanks for the review. Many things shouldn't be purchased without being held or a reliable review by a trusted reviewer. Knifes are one.👍
Very strange but I gotta tell you....had a dream last night that I was in MCT again and you were my instructor!
Thank you for this honest review. Be safe outdoors.
Considering the terrasaur comes from an early 2000 design and the garburg from 2016. Which knife copied which?
I agree!!
Why would anyone pay DOUBLE for an inferior knife made in El Salvador when you could buy the Superb Garberg Made in Sweden by European Craftsmen?
First I love mora as well I have several but I have experience with several condors. First thing that many have stated is the price personally I have always felt the garberg was way overpriced but that's me. As far as being a clone I truly believe that's due to the sheath. The actual and original terrasaur has been in several custom designes for years and the designer wanted to make a budget friendly option. Personally I think it really comes down to price and that's it.
So, I completely see where you are coming from as a equally admitted Mora fan club card carrying member. With that said, I like the blade shape a lot on the condor. I find the Mora’s upswept belly tough with sharpening. Now, I know you didn’t get into that but as a guy who prides himself on sharp knifes I must consider sharpening especially with CS. Either way, not trading in any of my Mora’s anytime soon. Side note, your video making skills have improved tremendously since I first subbed. Thanks for what you do and God bless.
3 Reasons why i use the Condor instead of the Mora Garberg [used the Stainless Garberg and other Moras for 10+years] which are NOT price : 1. Fit to my own hand...the condor was a better fit an feel for me. PLUS: nearly every knife with a high guard i filed down to a slope to the flat side of the blade for some carving techniques. That wasn't necessary with the Condor. 2. The
tip of the Condor has a steeper angle...that was important for "drilling" holes and archery/stomping to get the arrows out...works with both knifes,...but much better with the Condor. 3. I could order the Condor in orange. Lost one to many knife around campsites.
These are my reasons....the Condor is the better knife for me. The price only is a bonus. Additionally for all the lefties (not me) out there...You can rotate the sheath of the Condor but not the Mora. But I also agree on the superior production quality of the Mora. I think thats due to more production automation + quality control. I also like the leather sheath option of the Mora.
The Codor seemed to match the Mora in performance, "issues" were just fit and finish. A knife is a tool, it's like a screwdriver or a chisel; I'm not going to pay double the price for a screwdriver because the handle is neater.
Good luck and thanks for watching
@@recall5811 Cheers! I should have said that I appreciated your opinion and enjoyed your video. ATB
Very clear and non biased facts. Thank you
Id love to see terrasaur blanks the same way they sell the bushlore and klephart.
Nice job corporal, $ wise, quality wise, both good knives
Honestly, I bought a walmart special for $10 several years ago. The damn thing holds an edge well, and has served me faithfully. I wouldn't dare baton with it, but that's why God invented the axe.
damnnnn 😳 ... i found my winchester walmart special 6" blade with the gut hook and wooden handles 😁👌
I won’t comment on the intent of Condor, but I will say...
You get what you pay for. And you have to decide what your life is worth when it depends on your equipment.
Semper Fi
↑↑↑what he said.
Corporal,
Very easy to decide what is best at any cost or manufacturer. It’s the one you’re packing when you’re in need. Very simple. Great video.
Even better, the Morakniv Garberg with leather sheath is now $87.00 on Amazon. It is a better VALUE than the Condor Terrasaur, by far, even though it is more expensive.
thanks for sharing that info
I really enjoy your no nonsense fair opinionated videos, NO B. S. LOVE IT!!!! I dig your humor as well. Thanks for the vids. And I love moras also, eldris is my favorite. What is your opinion on the Esse 5? Just wondering, I have that one as well and I love it. Cheers
I bought the Condor(also have Moras), and mine was good from the start.It's delegated to my pack in the car but,I feel comfortable with as a strong back up. Pathfinder Mountain Lion is always on my hip and favored.
I appreciate your honest review as always ! My rule has always been you get what you pay for.
Better to buy ONCE and cry ONCE.
You straight up assassinated The Condor. Poor Joe Flowers.
if presenting a side by side comparison and NOT giving an opinion assassinates someone then there are other forces or bad choices at work. Thanks for watching
Great reviews. Thanks. I'll save up for a Mora. Although there's less attention to detail in the Terrasaur, I don't think it amounts to being half the quality of a Mora...but it is half the cost. For a beginner, the Condor Terrasaur would be my recommendation.
1. Does it do the job? 2. Is it good value for money? I think Mora Garberg is heavily overpriced.
the you will blow through knives and wonder why
@@recall5811 are there lots of people needing to replace their Terrasaur?
totally agree, they know that the bushcraft community sometimes pays stupid prices, look at the new mora outdoor collection, 230$ for recycled steel...
@@recall5811 nobody is needing to replace the terrasaur. We all know you are a mora representative so your opinion is extremely biased. You didn’t even do proper tests on them like other TH-camrs who found the terrasaur actually superior in use!
@@recall5811 Terava Jääkäripuukko
Yup, I'll be sticking with Mora's in the field, on the job, and in the workshop. I've never found a better crafted, complete line of cutting and carving tools for all my needs.
My terrasaur came without manufacturing defects. It was cleanly processed and had no signs of glue residue. The hole was centrally drilled. Your knife must have been a Monday model. My knife was the opposite of yours. But I have often heard that the quality of condor is varying. Sometimes you are lucky or unlucky. But I can not say much about that because it's my first condor. Nevertheless, thank you for your opinion. I am a big fan of your channel. keep up the good work and greetings from Germany
Terava Jaakaripuukko 110 has a grippier handle. But I still want a Garberg cuz it’s a Mora which most knives will be compared to. A lot of people seem to start with a cheap Mora to find what to look for in a knife and many never leave simply because it’s all they need in spite of the super hype in the knife world. I judge knife price by how many Mora Companions HD I could buy for the price of the knife I am considering. Sometimes carrying multiple Mora’s outshines one high priced knife since you can then dedicate a knife to specific tasks such as food prep, camp chores, filleting, etc plus the chance of loss or multiple users to divide the work makes carrying more than one knife a definite advantage. If you can’t afford a Mora you haven’t checked their whole model lineup. These knives are Swedish quality and experience at Chinese prices.
A Terrasaur is half the price. Those differences seem completely inconsequential for a working knife.
Can’t fault your logic here. Good video corporal! Thank you
i have four condors knife!! love them all!! All the name Garberg means more money!
Thanks Corporal. Planned on sticking with my Companion hd, anyway. Great video!....And.....Thank you for your service!!
A better budget option to the Mora is the terrava Puuko from Varustaleka. Their fit and finish are not up to Mora perfection BUT they are very well built, use a good quality carbon steel, a tough rubber type molded handle and the option of a superior leather sheath. The Terrava also have size options of 110mm or 140mm.
Another great video! Cant fault you approach good Sir, presenting fairly each item as unbiased as i believe you possibly could. integrity and fairness, credit and or criticism if and when and where they are due. This is why I always have time for Corporals Corner!!!
I got one and very happy with it. No,....I'm not easily pleased either.
I work out in the country all day everyday and put knives through it, above and beyond any normal person.
I do more than just making sparks from a ferro rod, cutting a piece of para cord before re-oiling the blade and neatly putting it away until it's next adventure.
As well as working in the Forrest and fields, I also practice bushcraft so a knife has to work for me.
Mora are good and was using them some 12 years ago.
But for $50 id take the Condor all day everyday and 3 times on a Sunday😉
I can beat it, loose it, find it and clean of the rust, sharpen it on a rock, chuck it in the back of the van, chop with it... The list just goes on and on.
Would I want to do the same with a $100 Mora,.... Not really because they both will do the same.
I do think that your a little biased because of your pathfinder connection, this is fine with me if you feel the need promote one knife over another.....But I do make my own decisions based on years of experience not weekend wanderers making a camp fire and cutting cord and fish line. ( That's not a reference to you Corporal )
This knife is certainly not going to fall apart 6 months out of its box and if I only get 2 years out of it after full on abuse and use then it will money well spent.
Keep doing what you normally do Corporal which is very good, not knife bashing.
I am not biases because of my pathfinder connection. I was using moras 10 years ago with Cody Lundin and if you think that showing both knives back to back with out me giving an opinion is knife bashing. Just wait and see what I can do. Thanks for watching
@@recall5811 Thanks for replying.
I'm not into names, the equipment has to work at the end of the day regardless who made it and this knife is working for me like any $200 knife out there. It's a more realistic/affordable price for young people getting into survival/bushcraft or hunting, looking to purchase this type of knife.
Sorry but you have come across like your defending the Mora brand because it's a dam near copy of one of there's🤷🏼♀️
Who cares, not me. I've got a $50 work horse knife that will be worked hard and not look pretty with loads of other brand new condition equipment in a new pack because I was sold a dream that I need this stuff.
No hard feelings Corporal as this is just my opinion.
I've given you no thumbs down Corp as I'm not that kind of guy.
actually the video was shot with out me giving an opinion or trashing anyone. Thanks for watching
I like ur take on the whole deal, giving it a fair shake and side by side. keeping it LEGIT devil! 👊👊👊
Moras are made by robots. Condor is made by hand. It looks like Joe and Imacasa are banking on a design they made in 2009, before the Garberg was designed with Dave and Mora. Joe probably didn't trust it to be made out of 1075 (you can tell by the tip profiles), and Imacasa couldn't afford to introduce a new heat treat process. Imacasa only started using 1095 a couple years ago. If they treat it as well as they do their '75, I'm sure it will perform as well as the Garberg.
Mora has the business of building knives down to a fine art. They know where to spend the time/money to make a good product and where they can cut back and meet their price point. As far as Condor copying the Garberg ... I don't think so. Good design is good design and different people working independently on a specific task are likely to come up with very similar results. Even if the Terrasaur was designed to compete with the Garberg, the real danger here is that someone who is online or catalog shopping isn't able to hold both in their hands and compare. They can't see the difference in fit & finish and may not realize what they're giving up to save a few bucks. Quality and workmanship is important and Mora seems to be aware of that. Thanks for the honest review.
Great video. Great review. I say two for the price of one . They will get the job done. And if I loose one got a backup. And not out of a hundred bucks . I think I would put a full flat grinded on one. For food prep and skinning. God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts.
There's no question the Garberg is a superior knife for sure. However, I'm a man on a budget and the Condor suits my needs for casual camping. If I was camping and practicing bushcraft 20 weekends a year I'd definitely step up to the Garberg. I enjoyed the video and the details you pointed out for each knife!
I'm a big fan of Morakniv but at half the price I'm not convinced the Terrasaur is that much of a step down. As an aside I note it is made in El Salvatore, which seems to be developing a cottage knife industry.
I do appreciate your fair minded evaluation of their respective merits.
As I posted above I carry a Mora in my EDC. Because my life or others may have to depend on it money is way down the list but is important. A superb Mora can be bought for $50 or $60. I'm worth $60. I'm betting you are too.
Stand down dude. The comparison in the video was between Terrasaur and a Morakniv that cost twice as much, and that was the comparison on which I commented. Also if your life literally depends on your knife - which frankly sounds pretty melodramatic - maybe you're selling yourself just a bit short at $60.
If you have actually used both knives and can speak to the respective pros and cons then by all means make a video and share your wisdom with the rest of us.
It can’t help it , it was born that way !
Sweet Cpl. Kelly, thanks for the video .
I have Mora’s , love them . I think they are the best, never had one to fail me yet .
I'm a Condor fan and yeah, there's imperfections buts it because some guy or gal is standing in front of a grinder making it by hand. The Mora's are all made by machines which is great because you get uniform quality, but forty bucks is forty bucks and I read WAY more positive reviews for the Condor than negative. I could see the nitpicking if they were in the same price range but half the price! For what you get!? Dress it up a little then go make all the feather sticks and baton all the wood your heart desires.
lol, by hand.... If the Condors where handmade, they would cost 300$ not 40... Imperfections on a knife have no excuses, fit and finish is always a serious indication of a knive's quality (handmade or not).
Someone recently suggested that I paid a bit too much for my Garberg and but I don’t feel so bad a after watching this, you made some good points here.
Canterbury pushed the Garberg in a video at one of the Blade Shows. The Varustilekka puukko beats both of them, IMHO ! 🤔 Semper Fi !
@PaleBlueDot look on TH-cam for the 2016 thru 2018 Blade Shows where he is at a Mora knife exhibit . There are other comparisons on TH-cam also . I have both knives and don't find the Garberg all that exceptional . Grizz 🐻
Obvious disign intent...I have the Hudson Bay and Moonshiner from Condor and love them both. I had to "fix" the grind and "finish" the handles on both. I can tell you I sent a plate carrier back that looked like a child sewed it by hand...QC issues across the board. My edc is a companion hd and the bushcraft black in my ruck...they work. ⬅ period
Great video again
No one should speak bad of a man who has a favourite. Moras are great. I have and like both. If I use my Terrasaur hard enough to damage it then I’d probably grab a different knife off my shelf. Good value for me in the Terrasaur. Keep goin Corporal you doin well.
There is no way you are going to damage your Terrasaur, that "handle" thing it's just BS
You make me laugh it is so funny and so hilarious 😆 I just love 💕 ❤️ 💗 to watch your TH-cam videos god bless you thank you for your service love 💗 you
Making your own version of a classic in order to compete with it is neither a "knock-off" nor a "bootleg." Knock-offs are trying to make you think they ARE the original object (like Chinese i-phons), and bootlegs are illegally obtained or sold versions of the actual original product (like illegally recorded and sold copies of actual movies). Just think of how many Swiss Army-type knives are out there. Are Victorinox and (I can't remember the other "official" brand) the only companies morally or legally allowed to make knives with tools in them? There is nothing unique enough about the Garberg for Mora to claim any kind of infringement. If another company can make a similar thing and charge half the price, that's just means that Mora should have found a way to make theirs less expensive. I would buy the Condor over the Mora, because the only flaw of the Condor *as far as practical use* is the smaller amount of material around the tang. I don't generally baton small and mid-sized knives, though, so I'll gladly save 50 bucks on fit and finish issues. If they were competing in price, I'd go Mora, but for half the cost there's no competition for me.
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Don't you mean "knock-off?"
@@ogivecrush ,
Thanks. My old professors would be quite dissapointed.
*disappointed* dammit!
Ill stay with Mora but if I had too I could live with the Condor. I've lived with less and worse. Thanks for the looksee - Rob
For 40$ to 50$ i cat find anything wrong with it the, blade is awsome and has great edge retention.
Its half the price of the garberg and its half the quality but i would say value is better than the garberg.
Thanks for the review
Ill go with the 40 dollar terrasaur over the 100 dollar garberg every day of the week and 6 times on Sunday
I have both. Terrasaur is the superior design IMHO. Better sheath retention than the Garberg, too.... Also much much lighter. Main selling point with the Mora’s was that they were inexpensive, yet highly functional and practical. Much like the Terrasaur
Mora miss spelled "garbage" lol, it maybe a nice knife but I'm sure the terrasaur will hold up just as long, mine didn't have any of the imperfections he showed I did reprofile the edge to 25 degrees with a small secondary bevel slices nice but still tuff as nails.
My most used knife is a mora and love it. With that said Scandi grind is a training wheels grind. It’s the worst grind for pretty much everything cutting, slicing, fillleting, skinning, kitchen, chopping, splitting. Being easy to find the grind is it’s only advantage. I’m surprised it’s still as popular as it is. Testament to Mora.
For cutting fresh and dry wood the scandy grind is awesome and that is what I use it for. To filet a fish or cut some food I use other knives.
the scandy grind is also quite good to cut foam and insulation material.
One is made in Sweden, the other ElSalvador?
$90, $50. With my experience, you get what you pay for. Especially when it comes to knives.
Thanks for the review 👍🏼
Fuck off
I have been abusing my Terrasaur and I love it! I got the black handle version and it is a perfect bushcraft and hunting blade. Been beating on it and it just asks for more. Flint & steel, ferro rods, both are easy to get sparks. Spine as a scraper ☑️. Edge is very easy to sharpen (I have only stropped mine so far) and it is f****** sharp!
Using a ranger band allows for the tandem carrying of a ferro rod on the sheath. And I put a strip of gorilla tape on the back that keeps a sail needle secure.
This is kind of common with Condors. I have a few and they all have some cosmetic flaws.
The catch here is they used to be relatively cheap, which was ok if they functioned well. For a bit now, their prices have gone up and for the price it's getting harder to justify the cosmetic deficiencies.
then they need to shut down and fix their sh*t
Totally agree with you.
The most honest comparison I've seen between the knives yet. Thanks a bunch.
I can see that the bladedesign of the Terrasaur can have an advantage for some carving tasks...but that´s about it. I would probably choose a Mora Bushcraft black over the Condor as well, if price was an issue. I think its kind of embarrasing that Condor can´t provide better quality finish for 42$, than Mora can at 20$!
Solid video. Valuable content for the community. Value added review
For a low cost option that will get people out there, I believe the terrasour has the garberg beat. It may not be pretty, but compared to the average knife in that price range it really soars above the rest. However, that doesn't take in the rest of the mora line up which includes the bushcraft and legendary companion. It's at least worth a gander.
It's not a matter of beauty, it's a matter of quality. Fit and finish on a knife has nothing to do with looks, these are tools not fashion models. Fit and finish on a knife is, as it should be, a serious indication of quality.
A good knife is a thing of beauty in the hand. If price were an issue, I'd save the money and wait until I had enough for a decent blade. The knock off may be good in a pinch. But, if you ever had a handle fail, you know that is a bad, bad thing. Thank you for sharing this. Peace out from North Tonawanda, New York.
Isn’t this a less expensive iteration of a knife Joe Flowers designed for a custom maker a while back??? (I might add - with their permission)
This is why I watch your channel. I love that you picked both knives apart and showed the fit and finish of the knives. The knives may perform the same but there is definitely more care and craftsmanship put into the Mora. With that being said, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I would only go with the cheaper imitation in the situation where money was the only deciding factor. I am a buy once cry once kinda girl when it comes to equipment, I buy the best equipment I can afford in accordance to how much and how hard I will be using that equipment. For my knife, which is an important tool, I would get the better quality and I am sure in the long run I won't be disheartened for making that decision!
BOMBPROOF BUSHCRAFT I appreciate that he presented the facts on both knives... so that we can make our own decision. That is something that is important to me.
The Mora seems cleary better made but it’s twice the price, is it 2x as good? If you have $100-120 great if you have 50 at least you can get something fairly decent.
I don't know US prices. Here in Germany as of now, the Terrasaur goes for 45€. The best price for the Garberg is 54€ for the stainless model with simple plastic sheath (60€ with multimont) and ~70€ for the carbon model with multimont.
I own all three knives multiple times but for those prices, I'd take the Garberg over the Terrasaur at any time. I had to return two Terrasaurs because of quality issues (terrible grind quality) to end up with two decent ones.
If you get a decent one, the Terrasaur is not a bad knife. But if it doesn't have to be carbon steel, the stainless Garberg for less than 10 bucks more is clearly the better choice.
@@berniem.6965 You seem to be in a very fortunate position to buy such a cheap Garberg. It's 2.5 times the price of the Terrasaur here in Indonesia. I suspect I would prefer the grip of the garberg, love the round feeling of the eldris, but my condor is great. It's cheap so I don't think twice about putting it through some abuse, and it's never seemed to suffer for it.
I like the way you compare knives.
I have both and it's really close. The leather belt loop is way better on the Condor and the scales on the Garberg are slightly better. The carbon steel are neck in neck. There are more options for the Garburg. If you don't have either and want one and you don't want to spend twice as much buy the Condor.
never had an issue with my 12 dollar 4.3 Carbon Morakniv !!! :]
"it can't help it, it was born that way". I nearly pissed myself laughing at that
Much of that may be attributable to early production on Condor. Mora has had years to "get it right". But on the other hand you're paying for that perfection. Only time will tell on thickness of handle. There are subtle differences in blade profile, but I am more concerned with the lack of a forward stop on front of handle. Check them again in a year and see if quality control has improved or not. It was nice to see you manning Mora's sales booth at Blade Show!!!
Condor has better design but poorer fit and finish. Continuous curvature is more useful and practical than straight edge.
Here’s my opinion..yes there are definitely some similarities to the Mora. Yes the Mora is a better made knife however, if you want or need a knife like this and can’t afford the Mora then get the Condor. I personally don’t have a huge problem working on the edge to improve it and I’m not that hard on knives. The Condor would be fine for my application but rest assured I would inspect it before I bought it.
when you order direct from a company you don't get to inspect anything you trust their QC. Thanks for watching
I didn’t think about that but you’re right...
Mr Kelly , I guess the old saying holds true. "You get what you pay for". The Condor is half the price of the Mora but I'm sure it'll hold up to any job that the Mora can handle. By nit picking the small things like the size of the lanyard hole or the glue around the edges is not really an issue , you make adjustments. I highly respect your opinions and love the videos that you make. I think that you're being a bit harsh on the Condor though. It may be a " knockoff " but for the price I think it's right on the money cuz not everybody can afford to buy a Mora Garberg. Keep the videos coming and remember , " Adapt , Improvise & Overcome ". Semper Fi !
I think you're both right. There are a lot of knife snobs these days. Has to be crucible steel etc. Truth is, in the right hands either of these knives would perform. Id take practice and knowledge and a Mora over a box full of high dollar knives that will only ever cut paper lol.
I don't buy a brand new car just to take it home and replace the transmission. Thanks for watching
if you need to buy the condor because you can't afford a garberg then you put that money aside, save up some more. Then buy the garberg. simple basic budgeting.
Awesome video. I will be receiving my very first Mora knive tomorrow. Greetings from South Africa
You must have received a dud brother. I own 2 Terrasaur knives and they are both phenomenal. I got 2 so my son and I could both have a bushcraft knife without busting the bank. The gringo on both of airs are flawless arena the handles are amazing. Lanyard hokes line up perfectly. Great knives.
No complaints on mine either plus I got it in orange lol
At the end of the day the only way to tell if the Condor is good enough is to have a long test of it in the real world. Do the cosmetic issues affect performance? If not, and if the knife holds up reasonably well, then there’s your answer.
my answer is, if I buy a car new off the lot do I need to go home and fix the transmission. The answer is no. Condor has QC issues that need to be addressed prior to shipping. Thanks for watching
Condor is not exactly known for being high quality. That said, a couple weeks ago I picked up the Condor Bushlore with Micarta scales. The fit and finish on the knife is good. I did have to spend an hour sharpening it, but it has proven to be a really good knife. Regarding this comparison it really comes down to the old cliche, you get what you pay for. I personally think for $100 there's better options out there than the Mora Garberg, but others would completely disagree with me. I just don't like over mold handles, I think they're cheap and prone to wearing out before the blade does. Your experience with them may be better.
You're right about those handles. The steel also doesn't last on these kind of knives and that's why they are cheap, it's the overall cheaper materials that don''t last, as they would last on a custom or semicustom knife for example.
Outstanding Sesame Street reference! One of these is not like the other! Bro you make me smile when I watch your videos. Keep up the good work!