As sad as it is, this gives a really fascinating look into breeding and incubating in the wild. So many eggs are produced because so many won't survive. We know about the factors of humidity, temperature, and predators. The idea that the mom could be that kind of accidental danger just feels so bizarre.
What a combination of emotions I have. I’m crying…for Karma & for all of you. And I’m smiling while crying because I’m thrilled that some of her babies are healthy and absolutely stunning! Karma is beautiful and so sweet. I wish I knew how she was processing all this. I’m anthropomorphizing human emotions onto her and it’s gutting and thrilling at the same time. We love you Karma! ❤️❤️
The MPR guys did a fantastic episode with a guest recently all about eggs and their physiology. Only Diamon pythons, imbricata, and burmese pythons truly demonstrate facultative thermogenesis. Other snakes just protect and guard essentially. So I'm surprised that any of those eggs went to term at all.
This is why people pull eggs and cut them. Good demonstration of that, as sad as it is. Poor Karma, she tried hard. At least 25 made it! Thats more than I expected honestly. Between losses during incubation and then deaths from predators before maturity, its a wonder snakes make it at all (or reptiles in general) past a 95% mortality rate before maturity.
🎉🎉🎉😍 This is nature (albeit ultimately under human control). If all breeders took this route perhaps there would be a greater understanding of the inherent abilities & feelings of our reptiles. Reality is that not all neonates make it out, however it was only Karma's first shot (& yours with her in mind) at getting it right. We can all learn from such an endeavour & perhaps you can make adjustments to her husbandry, allowing her a better facility to increase her potential for successful hatching in the future. I am admiring your efforts & appreciate her experience in going through this otherwise natural process. More reptile keepers should do this & for me it is up there with keeping snakes in racks vs more adequate proportioned vivaria. I believe more & more that this should be the norm rather than the exception which allows each animal their given rights to incubate the clutch for themselves as part of the maternal instinct. Even at the end of your trial I believe those live neonates would have found their own way out of the egg mass & experienced their own individual departure from their mother in their own time & at their own pace. We rush to help & some believe the human approach is superior, but that is not my observation. Better to hatch 25 maternal offspring than 60+ After 'cooking' them for two months in a warm/humid fridge. These few animals have had a better beginning to life over those who didn't have the opportunity to develop feeling their mothers convulsions keeping them warm & her breath on their freshly hatched skin (as two examples). I hope you let her try again & look for any ways you can improve her chances to succeed, but not to belittle or take anything away from what was an already fruitful operation. ❤🐍 Please give her a big hug from me & let her know that she has achieved something which sadly the majority of captive mother snakes will never have the support to do. I hope this will change over the coming years & maternal will be seen as the superior approach with enrichment being the primary force behind the improved development in our husbandry for our beloved reptiles. This is only my opinion & obviously I already recognize that the bottom line is more important to the vast majority of breeders & the increased push towards production of mutant genetics for profit $$$/£££ & hence the drive for 100% hatch rate to maximize profit. I do not agree, however I am but one voice in a world of economically driven 'hobby' breeders (space & maternity should also apply to larger scale breeders, where animal welfare should be a necessity by virtue of the fact they make money from the endeavour). They're living creatures (mutant or otherwise) which deserve more respect in general. Nature knows best after millions of years evolution (practice makes perfect).
@@ReachOutReptiles thank you, sorry one last question.. so can a female be kepts as a virgin pet long term? In that case would reabsorption be more likely
@@Malayopython possibly. You might want to watch our videos on the pros and cons of males vs females. In short- males are less prone to major health issues.
To bad you did not I Incubate the eggs instead, would have had a much better success rate, or intervened sooner, alot of those babies that had their heads out would have survived.
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As sad as it is, this gives a really fascinating look into breeding and incubating in the wild. So many eggs are produced because so many won't survive. We know about the factors of humidity, temperature, and predators. The idea that the mom could be that kind of accidental danger just feels so bizarre.
I know you guys are disappointed. But we’re all proud of Karma too. And glad you guys saw it through with her.
Thanks bud. ❤️🐍
What a combination of emotions I have. I’m crying…for Karma & for all of you. And I’m smiling while crying because I’m thrilled that some of her babies are healthy and absolutely stunning! Karma is beautiful and so sweet. I wish I knew how she was processing all this. I’m anthropomorphizing human emotions onto her and it’s gutting and thrilling at the same time. We love you Karma! ❤️❤️
This definitely was an emotional rollercoaster!
What an amazing journey! Of course it would have been wonderful if they all made it, but so cool for the ones who did. Glad you kept a pair!
It was, and thanks! We want to see you guys had some four Gene combo the same way next! That would be awesome!
@@ReachOutReptiles Might have to give it a shot! Kind of scary though haha. Hard to let go of that control and give it back to mom 😬
@@KINOVAReptiles it is!
13:49 well I’m happy to hear that 25 did make it. Thank goodness!
Thanks for sharing the journey. So glad some of the babies made it so her legacy can continue.
That ending … lol !! at least she heard the snake getting ready to go !!!😂
@@pattykochenower4222 oh she was spared from a nasty situation for sure!
Wow I thought you had way more subscribers you deserve so much more
The MPR guys did a fantastic episode with a guest recently all about eggs and their physiology. Only Diamon pythons, imbricata, and burmese pythons truly demonstrate facultative thermogenesis. Other snakes just protect and guard essentially. So I'm surprised that any of those eggs went to term at all.
Great info! I would love to dive into what these snakes are capable of as mothers with you at length sometime, because I am not surprised.
Thank you for sharing with us!
Great video you guys congrats on the clutch you take the good with the bad and run with it
16:26 dad looked very interested in his children! Karma seems a bit indifferent, lol
lol!
This is why people pull eggs and cut them. Good demonstration of that, as sad as it is. Poor Karma, she tried hard. At least 25 made it! Thats more than I expected honestly. Between losses during incubation and then deaths from predators before maturity, its a wonder snakes make it at all (or reptiles in general) past a 95% mortality rate before maturity.
For sure!
🎉🎉🎉😍
This is nature (albeit ultimately under human control). If all breeders took this route perhaps there would be a greater understanding of the inherent abilities & feelings of our reptiles. Reality is that not all neonates make it out, however it was only Karma's first shot (& yours with her in mind) at getting it right. We can all learn from such an endeavour & perhaps you can make adjustments to her husbandry, allowing her a better facility to increase her potential for successful hatching in the future. I am admiring your efforts & appreciate her experience in going through this otherwise natural process. More reptile keepers should do this & for me it is up there with keeping snakes in racks vs more adequate proportioned vivaria. I believe more & more that this should be the norm rather than the exception which allows each animal their given rights to incubate the clutch for themselves as part of the maternal instinct. Even at the end of your trial I believe those live neonates would have found their own way out of the egg mass & experienced their own individual departure from their mother in their own time & at their own pace. We rush to help & some believe the human approach is superior, but that is not my observation. Better to hatch 25 maternal offspring than 60+ After 'cooking' them for two months in a warm/humid fridge. These few animals have had a better beginning to life over those who didn't have the opportunity to develop feeling their mothers convulsions keeping them warm & her breath on their freshly hatched skin (as two examples). I hope you let her try again & look for any ways you can improve her chances to succeed, but not to belittle or take anything away from what was an already fruitful operation. ❤🐍 Please give her a big hug from me & let her know that she has achieved something which sadly the majority of captive mother snakes will never have the support to do. I hope this will change over the coming years & maternal will be seen as the superior approach with enrichment being the primary force behind the improved development in our husbandry for our beloved reptiles. This is only my opinion & obviously I already recognize that the bottom line is more important to the vast majority of breeders & the increased push towards production of mutant genetics for profit $$$/£££ & hence the drive for 100% hatch rate to maximize profit. I do not agree, however I am but one voice in a world of economically driven 'hobby' breeders (space & maternity should also apply to larger scale breeders, where animal welfare should be a necessity by virtue of the fact they make money from the endeavour). They're living creatures (mutant or otherwise) which deserve more respect in general. Nature knows best after millions of years evolution (practice makes perfect).
Thanks Troy! We would 100% let her try again if she wanted to breed again, and no health issues prevent it. Great thoughts, thanks for sharing!
Wow, im so sorry😢
14:54 How came the albinos don’t really have red or pink eyes? They look like they have brown eyes.
The pupils are red, but these Albinos are not totally amelanistic.
hey how many made it ??
25
At 13:38 there’s a final breakdown
dang she must of had 60 plus eggs in there maybe in the wild the have losses like that I can imagine it would be tough to regulate that many eggs.
I am wondering why does a snake laying a clutch of infertiles take more of a toll than fertile?
They are rough and sticky, and can tear up their insides or even clump together and create condition called egg bound, which can be fatal.
@@ReachOutReptiles thank you, sorry one last question.. so can a female be kepts as a virgin pet long term? In that case would reabsorption be more likely
@@Malayopython possibly. You might want to watch our videos on the pros and cons of males vs females. In short- males are less prone to major health issues.
She is beautiful
I couldn’t agree more!
Normal can't have sunlight on snakes except once week .
I’m not sure what you mean by that?
Can I say hi to my dad do you know Jake
that's why you pull the eggs and incubate them if you want to hatch a greater number
That’s why we typically do, yes.
Captain obvious
To bad you did not I
Incubate the eggs instead, would have had a much better success rate, or intervened sooner, alot of those babies that had their heads out would have survived.
I think you’re right on that one.