Really? Is A 4 Cylinder Turbo Too Small For The New GMC Sierra!?

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  • ( www.TFLcar.com ) The new GMC Sierra can be had with a 4 cylinder turbo charged gasoline engine. In this new elevation trim the truck features revised styling and additional features. But how does the 2.7T perform in the real world?
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  • @mierdevries9643
    @mierdevries9643 5 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    That 2.7T needs to be on the Colorado/Canyon. Actually it should be the standard on the ZR2 with an option for diesel.

    • @johnathoncastro
      @johnathoncastro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Yes but as we all know these car companys are ass backwards and never listen to us the consumers.

    • @nobunaga-oda
      @nobunaga-oda 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@johnathoncastro 👍🏻😂

    • @dedalliance1
      @dedalliance1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@johnathoncastro I mean, the GM halftons have what, the 2.7L, 4.3L, 5.3L, and 6.2L? and a 3.0L diesel? How many more options do you need for motors? I would say GM is literally offering just about every truck and package(s) they can to make everyone across the board happy.

    • @La-yt1wr
      @La-yt1wr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Johnathon Castro GM doesn’t give a shit and those interiors looks the same from 2014 which is just an awful design the Ram looks better

    • @johnathoncastro
      @johnathoncastro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@La-yt1wr ram is 100% better. The rebel and bighorn are amazing

  • @johnathoncastro
    @johnathoncastro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    Who cares about 2 more mpg's...really?? I rather have the 8cylinder and not worry about blowing the turbo or over working the motor.

    • @289pinto
      @289pinto 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Engine

    • @danielorozco937
      @danielorozco937 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Well I mean there’s a lot of eco boost engines that already have over 200k mikes in them..

    • @NGGPeter
      @NGGPeter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Engines are motors genius

    • @NITROMETHANE4X4
      @NITROMETHANE4X4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@NGGPeter motor is electric, not the same as engine.

    • @NGGPeter
      @NGGPeter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      No, lol. A motor can be electric or gas. An engine is only gas, never electric. All engines are motors but not all motors are engines.

  • @AbronHawkins
    @AbronHawkins 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    That engine would be a great option for the Canyon/Colorado. Not for any full size truck. Go for the 5.3 or 6.2 liter V8

    • @mydailylife3771
      @mydailylife3771 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The 4.3 should be in every half ton. Tons of power, loads of torque. Decent fuel. Will do burnouts all day long. 227000 kms trouble free zero maintenance other than oil change every 12000 or so

    • @Lorde360
      @Lorde360 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they saw your comment and made it a reality

  • @kennthbennett7320
    @kennthbennett7320 5 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    This would be a good motor for a Colorado. I couldn't pay that for a 4banger.

    • @Nikephorus
      @Nikephorus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Exactly what I was thinking. I dunno why this is in the half ton... it should be in the mini trucks. It would be a great engine for that platform.

    • @joesimon544
      @joesimon544 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It would be a good engine for a lawn mower! A truck, no way.

    • @eltonjohn3236
      @eltonjohn3236 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think what you're thinking is what a lot of people are thinking. Even if it's a terrific powerplant in every way, it's still a four cylinder.

    • @onedankind8168
      @onedankind8168 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      300+ hp 300+ftlb torque... more powerful than V8's a few years back... Why did people feel "small" regarding the cylinders... lol...

    • @yambo59
      @yambo59 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You spoke my mind, this is always a bad idea for the long run, the motor is ok new, but this little singer turbo engine is way too overstressed pulling a full size truck - it will not last the long haul and its a bad deal to buy one for longevity, listen to it the damn thing sounds like it screaming its balls off even now. The average public just feels surprised with the turbo power but almost noone thinks about longevity and how overstressed this engine is, the engine belongs in a smaller lighter vehicle period. Its a BAD deal youre paying 51 grand for a truck that with an engine that wont do serious work for very long and is sure to fail early, HELL NO. In a truck this size its V8 all the way, even V6's dont last long in this big a truck. The public is so gullible, GM puts out these kind of combinations to try and get their overall fleet gas mileage down to satisfy the govt. regs. but the owner pays big time, this thing will be wheezing and burning oil. They did the same thing in the 70's with full size Buick Lesabres and V6's in the late 70's and it was a dysmal failure.

  • @AE-ix2iz
    @AE-ix2iz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I was confused at the “lower” mpg then looked up top and noticed it’s l/100km 😂

    • @tl5108
      @tl5108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah same. I was like Jesus that's god awful.
      Then i was like. O they using them communist numbers

    • @22099dscott
      @22099dscott 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tl5108 Sort of the same shock we used to get when they showed US MPG numbers. Canadian cars and trucks got 20% better fuel mileage before the switch to metric (that the US backed out of).

  • @marcmatthews7977
    @marcmatthews7977 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was waiting for a comparison to the 2.7 Ford EcoBoost which I have a 2018 STX. What is turbo lag? The 2.7 has none! It claws off the line and screams up top. After a year I have no regrets getting the 2.7.

    • @syxepop
      @syxepop 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Marc Matthews - For what's worth.. Ford's a V6 SEQUENTIAL TWIN TURBO and GM's an I4 SINGLE TURBO.
      Both have the same displacement size, but should act differently...

  • @steveheighton5971
    @steveheighton5971 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    More crazy truck prices. That base model Frontier you reviewed is looking better and better all the time.

    • @Jonathan-tb6fm
      @Jonathan-tb6fm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m looking for a used 2011+ Silverado 5.3 4x4 and almost all are 15-17k with 130-150k miles!! What’s left on it 50k miles?

    • @Jonathan-tb6fm
      @Jonathan-tb6fm 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zesty Meatballs might as well get a 17” mid trim Sierra by the looks of it for 26k. Finance something you will like. I don’t like these new ones.

  • @bryanharrell6894
    @bryanharrell6894 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very well made video. Quite informative yet easy to understand. Will look out for other TFL videos.

  • @hassanmohammed3462
    @hassanmohammed3462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a 2021 Sierra 1500 2.7L Elevation. Between February and April 2021 I drove from Portland, Or to Palm Beach County, FL 1.5 times which is 3,200+mi each way. The last trip down to FL, the bed was packed with an estimate weight of 800lbs and a cargo carrier in the hitch with another 250lbs as I moved to the southeast from the PNW. I filled up with premium gas each time (24 gallon tank), I had it in AUTO=4WD HIGH, SPORT mode was on at all times and my avg MPH and MPG over the course of the trip was 79 MPH with 19.8 MPG. I didn't feel any loss of power with the extra weight, the brakes adjusted accordingly with great response and again the power was always there if/when I needed it. This is my first American truck in 24 yrs and I must say, I don't have any complaints at all! I took a different route each time, i.e. Desert (CA/NV/AZ), high-desert (Alvord Desert, OR), dirt roads, gravel roads, harsh rain, over Mt. Shasta in Northern California, open road and city streets, through the mountains in Utah during a white-out snow storm and some places that I may have forgotten lol. Again, no complaints!! The truck did what I expected and and more. I love the 8cyl (who wouldn't?) but I do feel like the 2.7L Turbo obviously has the same body as the larger motors but it drives/handles more car-like.

    • @raulsifuentes702
      @raulsifuentes702 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice review from an actual owner.

    • @nunosapunso6239
      @nunosapunso6239 ปีที่แล้ว

      Another owner trying so desperately to justify their poor financial decision.🤣 but cool story.

  • @Ramlock_21
    @Ramlock_21 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Loving that 2.7L not everyone tows, so not everyone needs a V8 Great review! Black Canyon for me! 😊

  • @richardmiller1256
    @richardmiller1256 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I'm with everyone else on this. The 4banger should be in the Canyon.

  • @joenissan
    @joenissan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Nice looking but a 4 banger in a full size truck is like dating a chic with no lady parts.

    • @dedalliance1
      @dedalliance1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Why? Because it's more efficient to drive around and you can fit more stuff in the bed than a smaller truck? Or is it because you can seat more people comfortably in the cab? Oh wait wait I know, maybe it's because dumb people think that the only use for a truck is what they specifically want to do with it and that's typically 'cool' people thinking trucks are all about raw power and max towing. You don't need a 6.2L V8 for a fleet company vehicle that's going to drive from one construction site to the next with a builders level and total station in the back and then an hour later drive to the next site. All you need is a truck that can fit your 8' story pole in the bed and a couple tripods and maybe 2 or 3 other guys to help you out.

    • @joenissan
      @joenissan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      dedalliance1 That’s what they make 1/4 ton trucks for. Anything you’ll need a 1/2 ton for needs more oomph than a little 4 banger gives. You don’t buy a full size truck for fuel economy.

    • @joenissan
      @joenissan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Smarter Than You lol, no....that would be a 2WD truck with a 4 banger!

    • @shitloveaduck
      @shitloveaduck 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      dedalliance1 - I really do agree with you! There, now you won’t have to take all the heat! Hahaha
      joenissan proved exactly what you said to be correct. As the power grows in vehicles people think suddenly that 400 hp is the norm. This motor makes 310 hp and 340+ lb ft of torque. The torque is down around the 1200 rpm mark. What you are talking about is very true, that you need the room of a half ton but don’t need a big V8. The other part that joenissan missed (assuming he watched the full video?) was that the 2,7 litre is only 2 tenths of a second slower to 60mph than the 6.2 litre. (6.8 seconds vs 6.6 seconds). That also means that it is easily faster to 60 than the 5.3 litre!! In the city, how often do you exceed 60 mph? Even on the interstate, the 2.7 has higher payload capacities than the 5.3 and very comparable to the 6.2. How is this puny 4 cylinder lacking in power? It isn’t! Some people can’t get over the fact it is 4 cylinders.
      I stated elsewhere in the comments I would like the the 5.3 over the 4 cylinder. Purely for sound. I don’t need spectacular 0-60 times because I don’t race off the line with every launch. I am not hauling massive loads or pulling massive trailers. I have a 1 ton diesel to do that.
      My actual current truck is a 2019 F150, 5.0 litre. I also have two new farm trucks, 2019 F150, 2.7 litres SuperCabs for the bigger box. Both of these are faster than my 5.0 at about 3500 ft above sea level. GREAT work trucks fully supporting exactly what you, dedalliance 1, said!
      At least two of us think similarly!! Haha

    • @KeystoneTexan
      @KeystoneTexan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      joenissan or a chic with a b cup bra size!

  • @Shortskeez
    @Shortskeez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’ve had my 2019 2.7 Sierra SLE for about a year and a half now and I’m at 14k miles. I got a pretty good deal on it below sticker price at 42k. While yes, I would’ve preferred a v8, I’ve been very happy with the truck and it’s easily fulfilled every purpose I’ve ever needed it for. Currently I never tow anything, but when the day comes that I do (I’d like a boat in the next 5-10 years), I do think I’ll swap to a v8. It’s not even that I don’t think the 2.7 could handle it, but imo I just don’t think that’s what they were made for. But for those of you like me that just enjoy an everyday truck, the 4 cyl 2.7 does a perfectly solid job.

  • @jayg7482
    @jayg7482 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It says the Elevation package comes with the terrain select option but does that include a 2-speed transfer case or is it sill single speed but with better terrain management?

  • @s13one80
    @s13one80 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Summed it up perfectly when you said "city slicker special". Add that phrase along with mall crawler, pavement princess and man wagon.

    • @shitloveaduck
      @shitloveaduck 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nothing wrong with that. It generates sales and helps promote the brand. Are you saying that anyone that buys these trucks, if they are male, are any less of a man than someone who buys a V8 truck? The 5.3 is slower than this truck and has less payload. Must be a pavement princess as well. The 6.2 10 speed 1/2 ton is only 2 tenths of a second faster to 60 mph. Sounds like a mall crawler to me! Heheheh!
      They are trucks and they all have their place. If you want to be a bully and put someone down for driving a 4 cylinder truck, well thinks about it,,,, how old are we?

    • @s13one80
      @s13one80 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shitloveaduck relax, it's a joke not a dick so don't take it so hard. Was I "bullying" anyone with my statement? Did my words hurt you? Would you like to me to apologize for my opinion? Nothing wrong with a turbo 4 banger but in 1/2 ton pick up truck, it's a recipe for poor long term reliability. Most consumers would like a vehicle that doesn't break down or have catastrophic failure after the factory warranty runs out.

    • @EM_life-gr8sn
      @EM_life-gr8sn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      About 95% of trucks out there

    • @philmcclenaghan7056
      @philmcclenaghan7056 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@s13one80 sorry but I don't remember trucks being reliable before this? Look up the reliability - most get 3/5

    • @s13one80
      @s13one80 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@philmcclenaghan7056 welcome to the conversation a year later. Are you saying that trucks were never reliable or are you saying trucks aren't reliable now?

  • @Mgoblagulkablong
    @Mgoblagulkablong 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    GM using a 4-cylinder engine for both a fullsize truck and a performance sedan and on top of that the same for both...
    They want to get saved by tax payers money again...

    • @mybro727
      @mybro727 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mgoblagulkablong Your comment doesn’t even make sense. What’s the issue with GM using 1 engine for more than one vehicle if it more than fulfills it’s purpose in both?? GM uses this engine in their pickup trucks because they’re a great option for their intended purposes and they offer great fuel economy without sacrificing speed and losing too much capability.
      The 2.7 T 4-cylinder adequately powers 5,000+lbs full-size pickup trucks pushing them from 0-60 in just over 6 seconds. So how fast do you think it’ll efficiently move a 3,000lbs compact sport sedan that’s tuned for performance? Knowing GM, I’m sure it moves the CT4 very quickly especially mated to their more advanced 10-speed transmission while simultaneously getting better fuel economy than some thirstier performance competitors. What difference does it make if it’s the same or different 2.7T engine(s)?
      At this point you’re just a troll. Your comment appears to be nothing more than wishful thinking. Fortunately, they’re doing a great job so there won’t be any need for that anytime soon.

    • @Mgoblagulkablong
      @Mgoblagulkablong 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mybro727 You are clueless. Numbers on a paper and how fast a car does 0-60 tell you nothing about the characteristics of an engine. For a heavy truck the engine has too little displacement, depends too much on the turbo and has a lag until the turbo spools up. For a sports sedan the engine characteristic is even more out of place, people who buy this type of car don't want a low revving, bad sounding engine that runs out of steam at high rpm. Trucks need big displacement and engines without lag, sports sedans need good sounding engines with linear power delivery and good power at the top of the rev range.

    • @mybro727
      @mybro727 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mgoblagulkablong Lol. No I can’t tell characteristics based on facts on a paper from the people who built the product nor does a 0-60 time give me the characteristics of a engine...but the man that’s reviewing the truck and giving his opinion definitely can provide characteristics and that’s what he just did.
      Have you experienced this engine yet in the GMC Sierra/Silverado, and Cadillac CT4? My educated guess is NO, you haven’t since 1 out of 3 isn’t even available at the moment and you haven’t stated you’ve driven the engine yourself. So how in the hell can you speak on the characteristics of something you haven’t experienced yet?? That doesn’t make any sense.

    • @datdatonabeat3252
      @datdatonabeat3252 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mgoblagulkablong they put a 4 cylinder in the Camaro as well. Yeah lemme take a hit of what GM is smoking. It must be some good shit! Lol

  • @CUSTOMWORKS7.3PSD
    @CUSTOMWORKS7.3PSD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    THIS TRUCK WILL BE A DREAM FOR AFTERMARKET COMPANIES FOR A 5.3 CONVERSION PACKAGE WHEN A FEW YEARS FROM NOW THE 4 BANGER STARTS BLOWING UP. LETS FACE IT GM / HOLDEN DOESN'T DO ANYTHING WELL

  • @How2HateYT
    @How2HateYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This configuration is great for those that only have a need for a midsize capability, but want full size cabins.

  • @NukePooch1
    @NukePooch1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That metallic red Canyon Elevation is what I'd pick in a heartbeat.... That color paint looks tremendous when it's not monsoon season...

  • @mjmiller1026
    @mjmiller1026 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dealer gave me one as a loner. If all your going to do with a truck is home Depot runs this is a good truck

  • @Chunkiemerk
    @Chunkiemerk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have the Silverado with the 2.7 t. And I love it . Turbo lag is there from a stop . But on the hwy this thing flat out flys instant boost. And the wastegate on the turbo makes it sound like a turbo diesel. Really love the whistle. And push button/ remote start is amazing with heated steering wheel and seats this truck is amazing so it’s faster than a v6 and gets better mpg. It’s .3 seconds faster than the v8 but towed about 3k less and really I’m not gonna tow much. Personally. But payload is where this really shines at 2.2k

  • @masapell
    @masapell 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2.7l turbo straight 4-cylinder Chevy or 2.7l turbo V-6 Ford?
    Straight 6 Cummins turbo diesel or V-8 turbo diesel Ford?
    They are just offering different solutions for people who want/need a pickup. There are no laws that state a pickup has to come with a V-8...what are people going to say when the first “silent” electric truck is available for purchase with power and torque available instantly, but without a hint of engine noise (unless a fake exhaust note is piped in through the speakers...)
    2019...the rules have changed and we have techno-wars right in front of us. This is actually fun watching the manufacturers fight it out.

    • @dieseldawg7132
      @dieseldawg7132 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Won’t last long..... most ppl don’t know how to drive a turbo.... surely dog this thing n shut it right off 😂😂😂

  • @RyanRKJ
    @RyanRKJ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 2018 Sierra (base) with the Elevation package was a perfect match for me. However, to get into a 2019 Elevation, with comparable options, including a V8, and 2 speed transfer case, like my 2018 has, the MSRP is around $7k CAD higher. Ouch! I'm glad I got a 2018.

  • @jayt4697
    @jayt4697 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    with regular in the v8 and premium in the turbo is it really cheaper to run the turbo?

  • @fransiscoh9450
    @fransiscoh9450 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That’s a nice Sierra
    *pops the hood*
    Oh god never mind

  • @patricklondon6006
    @patricklondon6006 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    A 4 cylinder in a 1500 that you have to pay extra for.🤣🤣

    • @ballinhobo8603
      @ballinhobo8603 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There's a sucker born every minute.

    • @jeffsiegrist3069
      @jeffsiegrist3069 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's the standard engine not an upcharge

  • @brucecollins8865
    @brucecollins8865 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think the 4cyl is great and for my use of a pickup I would definitely consider it. As far as the people complaining about fuel economy: it still makes 310hp, and hp takes fuel.

    • @townhall05446
      @townhall05446 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      HP only takes extra fuel when you're using the power. My 3.5 Ecoboost makes 375 hp and gets mileage as good or better, plus it will kick the 2.7's butt.

    • @6packonlyripped604
      @6packonlyripped604 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard one with upgraded exhaust lol not going joke but sound like shit 😂

    • @brucecollins8865
      @brucecollins8865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@6packonlyripped604 I can only imagine. The ecoboost trucks also sound terrible. I’ve also gotten to the point in life where quiet mufflers are welcome.

  • @croneous
    @croneous 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    To answer the question of the title of this video yes the engine is too small

  • @beaudaniel1370
    @beaudaniel1370 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Also he talks about better mpg but is that really the case if you have to rev out the engine all the time to get anywhere? I dont doubt it's better highway

  • @qlovox
    @qlovox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I like the red canyon
    I like the elevation package but i feel i cant justify the price

  • @MrMomo99909
    @MrMomo99909 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Unfortunately the elevation in the US only comes in double cab and not crew cab

    • @jarhiker1
      @jarhiker1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      2020 available in crew in USA. in 2019 it was only available in Canada

  • @the_chimneyguy
    @the_chimneyguy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As said by Yamaha " there is no replacement for displacement" Ill take my v8 anyday

  • @paulkennedy3914
    @paulkennedy3914 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    51 grand for a full size truck with a turbo 4 cylinder 😂😂!?!?

    • @glsracer
      @glsracer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      51k Canadian, it's around 45k US

    • @paulkennedy3914
      @paulkennedy3914 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@glsracer still a little much dont ya think?

    • @datdatonabeat3252
      @datdatonabeat3252 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      GM is snorting crack from each other’s ass cracks

    • @tedschmitt178
      @tedschmitt178 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "51 grand for a full size truck!?!?." There, fixed it.

    • @ews360
      @ews360 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      2023 crew cab 4wd 2.7 turbo $50,500 sticker. Bought for $36,800. $6,000 less than 5.3 truck. 10% more torque from 2.7. No brainer.

  • @ArmondB30
    @ArmondB30 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I test drove a Chevy with th3 5.3 and I am not impressed. I love the way the new body style looks, but would have to get a 6.2L. That would price me out unfortunately. I ended up with another Titan thanks to Rick Hendrick Chevrolet. I like what they are trying to do with the 4 cylinder, but they should have used a Turbo V6.

    • @bumkrilla5339
      @bumkrilla5339 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      An in-line turbo is the most reliable stronger fastest way to do a turbo v6 couldn't do an in-line turbo would have to do a box turbo that has a huge fail rate and if you dont cool your truck off after 30 seconds atleast with engine running chances of over heating a turbo on top of that it interferes with the start stop technology and ford implemented it in there v6 turbos and anyone that doesn't know that is burning them up after warranty turbo will set you back like 3k at Ford

  • @HIMI2003
    @HIMI2003 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the first drive intro music, nice touch.

  • @wtew020
    @wtew020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think they are finally getting it. Most consumers have very different needs and the elevation package would be right up my ally and at a price that’s affordable. For others this would t work as there hauling needs or work truck requirements may not fit this bill. Only thing missing is body colored mirror caps to this package. Loved what dodge did with there midnight package. Lot of truck at a decent price when you get the rebates for these trucks.

  • @poppyneese1811
    @poppyneese1811 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You know I hear a lot of people talk trash about GM 4 cylinder engines, but I can’t tell you how many Cavaliers with over 200k on the odometer. I think after this engine is tested and all the bugs get worked out, this engine will be fine for us granddads and those soccer moms, or the guy that hauls those lil plastic Kayaks to the river every week end and needs more comfort for 4 than his current Tacoma has. As always TFL second to none on YOuTube!

  • @killermobiledetailing2795
    @killermobiledetailing2795 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Now make a video ford 2.7 ecoboost against Gmc or Chevy 2.7 who is faster and which pulls better etc gas mileage

    • @nubbins70
      @nubbins70 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not even on the same level. 2.7EB spanks the 2.7 L3B in everything except MPGs, where the EB isn't really a slouch either. Twin turbo with more aggressive low end torque for 18+ vs a single turbo turtle of a 4banger...

    • @DanielJaegerFilms
      @DanielJaegerFilms 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m pretty sure they’ve already done that and the 2.7 EcoBoost dominated....

    • @MrEpic6060
      @MrEpic6060 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      2.7 ECOBOOST FROM FORD IS A V6 WITH MORE HP, TORQUE AND TOW RATINGS. GMC AND CHEVY USING 4 CYLINDERS...NOT IMPRESSED 🙄

    • @keepyourdayjob5658
      @keepyourdayjob5658 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      MrEpic6060 is your eye site bad? Just curious if you had trouble seeing what you typed while proof reading. Because my eye is very good as are many others so don’t feel we need all caps.

    • @tcarmody123
      @tcarmody123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Another channel did this. The Ford dominated.

  • @mjmiller1026
    @mjmiller1026 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got this truck as a loner vehicle. 2.7 has some get up and go! This is the package to buy if all use a truck for is weekend to do list, and as a daily driver. Little noisy when you stomp the gas down. you need to put this on your list of trucks to road test when looking for a new truck.

  • @Bucks7542
    @Bucks7542 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This engine makes sense. I don’t see them keeping the NA v6 for much longer. Same with ford. I think ford will give us a 4 cylinder soon as well.

  • @nastypyro
    @nastypyro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love these videos

  • @zz-hj9zi
    @zz-hj9zi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sierra with the 6.2l v8 does 0-60 in under 6 seconds. To be exact it is about 5.8 seconds

    • @MrEpic6060
      @MrEpic6060 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      THATS WHAT MY LITTLE 5.0L COYOTE V8 DOES IN MY F150 S/C WHICH SPANKS THESE TRUCKS IN POWER, TOWING AND HANDLING.

    • @zz-hj9zi
      @zz-hj9zi 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it doesn’t. Look up actual videos it’s take the 3.5 to get under 6 and by the way chevys tow the most at 13,700lbs your 5.0 only tows 11,000lbs at most

  • @drewhiz7334
    @drewhiz7334 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    No fan of the 4cyl (sales will tell the tale if the public says the same) but no chrome makes it look great in my opinion. If I can get a denali trim like that, I would.
    Oh and the Canyon, I'll take the black one too.

  • @christopherking2012
    @christopherking2012 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So the same mpg and towing as the v6 with more complexity?

  • @eltonjohn3236
    @eltonjohn3236 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In almost every region of Canada, one is going to need winter tires. 18" rims are more than sufficient, considering the cost difference between 20 and 18.

  • @dallashitchens5456
    @dallashitchens5456 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just looked at one of these yesterday not knowing it was a 4 banger. I'm all about my four cylinders especially owning a turbo K series. But I would never put it in a full-size trucks and expect it not to be overworked especially if you're towing. The Ecoboost v6 that's one thing but a turbo 4-cylinder..

  • @danielsweeney6742
    @danielsweeney6742 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I bet that in a few years those trucks will be needing new engines. Nothing like over working a 4 cylinder and turbo.

    • @shitloveaduck
      @shitloveaduck 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      With today’s technology they don’t take an existing motor and add a turbo. This combination definitely overworks the engine. Today they design both together so the motor is not overworked, it is designed to exactly what it does. There is a very big difference. Same thing they have been doing with turbo diesels for forever. The Cummins in the Rams/Dodges. An in-line 6 designed with the turbocharger as a package to become extremely strong. These motors are not designed like engines in the past. Objectively you can’t compare them to the old gas turbo 4 cylinders. Subjectively almost everyone compares them to the old motors. I believe you may be surprised by the longevity of these motors. My bigger worry is about the complexity of motors these days.

    • @danielsweeney6742
      @danielsweeney6742 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      shitloveaduck - You might be right.... Time will tell!

    • @shitloveaduck
      @shitloveaduck 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Daniel Sweeney - that or in a couple years time you will be reminding me that its time to eat some crow!! Haha

    • @777jones
      @777jones 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You have no reason to say it is overworked. GM knows how to design a durable refined 4 cylinder. Nothing new here. They perfected these engines over 15 years ago. No reason to suspect any more problem than any new engine.

    • @tedschmitt178
      @tedschmitt178 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, this is NOT the 1980's any more.

  • @Probablyshouldnthave
    @Probablyshouldnthave 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you get surround cameras on this package?

  • @silveradohd5946
    @silveradohd5946 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is this a good engine for people that uses trucks just as a commuter no hauling no heavy lifting?

    • @horuslupercal3872
      @horuslupercal3872 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean ya, however it's the diesel that I'm super interested in

    • @_Ohhslife
      @_Ohhslife 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Might as well get the 5.3 you will b way way more satisfied with it even if u don’t haul or tow with it

  • @shitloveaduck
    @shitloveaduck 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    - Red Sierra Elevation with the Chrome 20” wheels. I would like to try the 2.7 but would have to get the 5.3. 5.3 = must have.
    I am so tired of black wheels everywhere and they are HARD to keep clean!
    I am overwhelmed by black, white, silver and grey trucks. They out number any other colour on the lots in my area. I like the red. They have a decent blue as well.
    Just my opinion for my specific tastes. I wish there were more colours to chose from but not like some of the Jeep/Ram colours. Creamsicle??
    Hahaha!
    I liked the video. Thanks so much from somewhat rainy Alberta! Eh!

  • @paulherring8208
    @paulherring8208 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Sport mode , 2.7 Turbo lag in a 5000 lb truck now that's funny

    • @TheSingleTrucker
      @TheSingleTrucker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He doesn't know how turbo engines operate, so he drives this I4 like its N/a.

  • @mosesshanks1609
    @mosesshanks1609 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do we get the elevation in the USA?

  • @javifabela
    @javifabela 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love the elevation... it looks great, I like the the gas mileage and the bench seat in the front which makes it more practical to me. It has the right appearance. Plus most of us that need a truck, don't need it to tow, we need it to carry large items in the back (camping equipment, beach things, furniture for friends, etc.). So definitely looks and affordability, and practically are the primary concerns, not the tow rating.

    • @mikem7928
      @mikem7928 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed! If you’re going to tow buy a HD!

  • @MrNeuroticRA
    @MrNeuroticRA 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's called a street truck. The S10 and 1st Gen Colorado called it Xtreme. They also dropped the ride height though. I miss street trucks. Urban delivery can use a LUV type truck.

  • @garrettrush8243
    @garrettrush8243 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I put a Briggs and stratton v twin in my f150 and it gets amazing fuel mileage down hills, however it wont make it up them

  • @jamieshields9521
    @jamieshields9521 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Steve if Elevation Sierra came to Australia it would Holden SS, especially in black very nice👍 Holden Colorado (Canyon) needs sport edition and I reckon Elevation would do well as base trim sport because ZR1 model as top model.

  • @VHSJoeSlaney
    @VHSJoeSlaney ปีที่แล้ว

    everything you said about the truck was what i was already thinking, basically a sporty truck. :)

  • @garyblatt8925
    @garyblatt8925 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I could not imagine purchasing a full size truck with the power profile of a typical Chevy Malibu rental car from Avis.

    • @shitloveaduck
      @shitloveaduck 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What Malibu rental car from Avis had 310 hp and 348 lb ft of torque?

  • @revgordon91
    @revgordon91 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The 2.7T is suppose to be more fuel efficient.. the EPA numbers say that you'll get the same mpg with the 5.3L and tow more.. so where's the savings?

    • @atx-cvpi_99
      @atx-cvpi_99 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There isn't. GM should axe the 4 cylinder for their full size trucks. The 4 cylinder is best for the Colorado/Canyon platform.

  • @joshtavenner3073
    @joshtavenner3073 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would say a big reason the Elevation sells more in Canada is the fact that for 2019 you can’t get a crew cab elevation in the states. Just double cab. That’s changing for 2020 though.

    • @douglascanova3950
      @douglascanova3950 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Man I hope you are right, I love the Elevation package but would only buy one as a crew cab.

  • @patricktheplumber5482
    @patricktheplumber5482 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Who wants a full size truck with a 4 banger ! Doubt with any kind of load it gets any better gas mileage the a v-8 that dose not have to work as hard

    • @joshuaerlandson5623
      @joshuaerlandson5623 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Patrick plumber under load yes! But like he said, it’s geared towards city folk who want a daily driver with the room and bed and to occasionally tow a (likely small) trailer. Plus, not everyone uses trucks for major hauling, whether towing or not, but to haul family with a lot of luggage or equipment in the bed instead of trying to cram it in an suv. For them it might make more sense.

    • @EchoAccord
      @EchoAccord 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I want one

    • @patricktheplumber5482
      @patricktheplumber5482 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EchoAccord I made that comment 2 years ago at this point I would be happy with a hybrid truck I still think a 4 cylinder would end being a little disappointing in a full size truck but I’m not as opposed as I once was to the idea

  • @scoutsniper8688
    @scoutsniper8688 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Elevation....putting perfume on a pig..or dating that gorgeous girl who has nothing going for her 😂

  • @gncc600
    @gncc600 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You can’t believe anything tfl says. They are flown in by GM on an expenses paid vacation.

    • @mybro727
      @mybro727 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Web Gem Right, because you actually believe General Motors is the ONLY manufacturer flying TFL in...😑

    • @gncc600
      @gncc600 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mybro727 no I dont believe any brand they review. Shit information

  • @680ecks
    @680ecks 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes thank you finish painting the truck dont leave the grille unfinished.

  • @coltonjacobs5383
    @coltonjacobs5383 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Is this the same 4 cylinder with the cylinder deactivation? If so then this POS ain’t gonna last very long

    • @deandrej674
      @deandrej674 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Why would you want something like that in a i4? Are they really trying to make 2 cylinders move a 5kpound pickup?

    • @edwardpate6128
      @edwardpate6128 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@deandrej674 I believe the current V8 can go all the way down to 1!

    • @rxonmymind8362
      @rxonmymind8362 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deandrej674
      In Arizona on flat flat ground. No problem. Here in the hills of San Francisco or Oregon.
      Nope to the nope.

    • @csh000
      @csh000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@james2042 light duty trucks, maybe. I believe the heavy duty truck engine does not have cylinder deactivation.

    • @99-Zulu
      @99-Zulu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deandrej674
      What makes you think this truck will pull something or even itself with only 2 cylinders? The only time you'll see the cylinders deactivate is during hwy cruising. It's how they designed the engine it can sense that if its under load that all cylinders are going if it's cruising. If it's not straining itself then it just needs 2 cylinders to maintain that speed.

  • @TheQuirby
    @TheQuirby 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Only a fool would buy a full size truck with a 4 cylinder in it

  • @KeystoneTexan
    @KeystoneTexan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m really digging that white one but, I would go with the 5.3 instead.

  • @pazliftz
    @pazliftz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why does the canyon elevation still have a chrome rear bumper

  • @HuffNaggles
    @HuffNaggles 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you know if the GMC is faking the exhaust note by using the audio system like the Ford Raptor does? When you bury your foot, it actually sounds pretty good for bring a little 4-banger.

  • @4-LOW
    @4-LOW 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the real world, turbo engines in trucks/SUVs almost never get better fuel economy than their larger N/A counterparts. You can browse through Fuelly.com data from actual owners and see the trends. It's noticeable in everything from Jeeps to full size trucks; the turbo engines drink more fuel to make that power.

  • @jefftalbot8371
    @jefftalbot8371 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have had two 4-cyl GM vehicles and the engines were junk. Last Equinox I traded with 80,000 miles on the clock, burnt 2 quarts of oil per 1,000 miles, GM said it was normal. The day I traded it in I got a recall notice stating it had defective piston rings. I will EVER buy another GM vehicle.
    Yes, that 4-cyl is two small for that big behemoth. I have a 2.7L F-150, no turbo lag.

  • @machendachen
    @machendachen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good looking trucks but not with a 4cyl. Turbo. Think the 6cyl. Turbo was ok but this is not my cup of tea. Then again I like a good old fashioned V8!

  • @badkins427
    @badkins427 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    5.3 for the full size trucks. The Turbo 4 would make a great option for the Colorado/canyon twins.

  • @reversecourse
    @reversecourse 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much can it tow?

  • @justice4053
    @justice4053 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Elevation Package huh... Yea, I would have to be at an oxygen starved elevation where I could no longer make rational decisions before I opted for an overly complex, under-sized, over-stressed engine with bare minimal payoff in fuel economy. Name makes sense 👍

    • @tomsriv
      @tomsriv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you are at high elevation a turbo motor makes a lot more sense.

  • @chrisalejandre7709
    @chrisalejandre7709 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got one. Love it

  • @justcallmejohn2833
    @justcallmejohn2833 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was looking at Silverado’s last week, I didn’t see one 4 cylinder on the lot. They were all one V8 or the other.

  • @crazyprepper5400
    @crazyprepper5400 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can say this my friend has the eco boost, and Finley got a different truck to pull his camper because it has hard time going up hills. He told me he has to keep his foot in it to much

  • @viningperformancemotorspor1457
    @viningperformancemotorspor1457 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice choice in music bud.

  • @jeffreypottsll6723
    @jeffreypottsll6723 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:43 who ever would’ve thought GM hooked the transmission directly to the turbo. That is innovation right there!

  • @tedschmitt178
    @tedschmitt178 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That would be a great engine for the Spark.

  • @Harleyrk04
    @Harleyrk04 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live in Texas and the Denali is the trim level I see the most by far.

  • @joshuaerlandson5623
    @joshuaerlandson5623 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lots of folks on here seem to think every truck will be used to tow a large trailer every week. What about those who like the room inside for their family, and the larger (compared to smaller trucks) bed to fill with all their luggage, sports equipment, or camping gear. You don’t need a big v8’s for that. The v6 fits better. But this gets even better mpg’s. Not much, but they add up. Pickups are the new family sedan, whether we like it or not, and families need better mpg’s, not always better towing. Seems like people aren’t always trying to see why the manufacturers do what they do. Don’t tow? Nice 4 banger. Tow some? V6 or 5.3? Tow a lot? 6.2! Or move up to heavy duty....

  • @NuclearCowboyTube
    @NuclearCowboyTube 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    GM's Engineers are missing missing the boat here...Better suited in the Colorado / Canyon

  • @CJIacona
    @CJIacona 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Engine should be in the Canyon/ Colorado twins. Elevation package does look good though.

  • @LEGOCAMARO
    @LEGOCAMARO 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Over here in Texas its all about that v8 every one puts a cam and exhaust on that vortec

  • @rickking4443
    @rickking4443 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I went to the GMC dealership today I had no idea they were putting 4 cylinders in full size trucks even in 4x4 Sierras . I talked to the salesman about it . He said they are to keep prices down and that there's a lot of people buying trucks to use as a car instead of a truck . Meaning they will never use them for work or towing or hauling . The only thing they will put in the back is a golf bag or groceries . People that drive less than 10K miles per year .

  • @Mrswissblue
    @Mrswissblue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The only advantage of the i4 is, it a few thousand cheaper than the v8. Because it won't sell well there might be some discounts in the near future

  • @teaganostrow4421
    @teaganostrow4421 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you in Ontario

  • @garybucci5186
    @garybucci5186 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why can I not get the crew cab Elevation in the US? We can only get an extended cab. Look at the US webpage and build and price. I would love the crew cab, in the Elevation. It gives way more options than the Custom in the Silverado.

  • @Rockrewls
    @Rockrewls 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That small engine should be getting far better fuel mileage!! Why would you buy the 4 cyl when the fuel mileage is very similar to the 5.3 V8.

    • @jamesbeaman6337
      @jamesbeaman6337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      D U it is 10% better in the city which is real money for those who don’t do much highway driving.

    • @nunosapunso6239
      @nunosapunso6239 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesbeaman6337 no savings when you have to use premium fuel.

  • @austinhowze6280
    @austinhowze6280 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow Honda just needs to join this game cause there 4 cylinder are the best you going to get

  • @vegasfordguy
    @vegasfordguy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you can't beat them, copy them! Blatant RIP off of the F-150. Look at those headlights and dash vents. LOL.

  • @NewtonWashinton
    @NewtonWashinton 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    NO ONE with any knowledge of motors will buy this 4 cyl. truck. All this truck does is make me want a Ford 5.0 Coyote.

    • @braddenr.4778
      @braddenr.4778 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Newton Washinton well it seems like you don’t have any knowledge of motors from your comment. You people don’t understand the purpose of this engine, and just want V8 to compensate for your lack of masculinity. People get this engine not to tow, not to race, and not to impress, they buy it to comfortably drive around and occasionally tow something small while getting good gas mileage. You people just don’t get it, you don’t always need a V8 in your truck to have something nice, this turbo 4cyl it’s perfectly sufficient for every day use.

    • @NewtonWashinton
      @NewtonWashinton 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@braddenr.4778 One day when you grow up and have some knowledge You will agree with me. When you use the term You People don't understand i hope you have a mirror.

    • @braddenr.4778
      @braddenr.4778 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Newton Washinton Um I’m not the one complaining about it, nor do I need to “grow up”, it seems to me that you need to grow up considering you need a V8 to be all manly and tuff I guess, pretty sad. And no I will not agree with you, here soon in the coming years, trucks with V8’s will be no more and these engines will be taking over, and then all electric after that. So how about you read up a little more before you start talking about a vehicle you don’t even own. And I use the term “you people” because others are saying the same thing as you, and it’s quite hysterical actually.

    • @NewtonWashinton
      @NewtonWashinton 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@braddenr.4778 All i can say is Knowledge is power and yes one day you will agree with me. Thank you for your expert insight to the future.

    • @braddenr.4778
      @braddenr.4778 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Newton Washinton We will see, considering emissions will push V8’s out of trucks, but what do I know, it’s only completely obvious😉

  • @waitotong9590
    @waitotong9590 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    How did the 5.3L V8 with 4WD get better fuel economy than the 4.3 V6 2WD?

    • @foxwithshades7080
      @foxwithshades7080 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dynamic Fuel Management.
      The 4.3l still has Active Fuel Management. To be honest after driving both AFM and DFM trucks. DFM is by far the better system.

    • @samduran5180
      @samduran5180 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Technology

    • @shitloveaduck
      @shitloveaduck 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jaime Gutierrez - look closer. The MPG is listed as well. The 4.3 gets less fuel economy. It really has lived past its prime and should be put out to pasture

    • @richardmiller1256
      @richardmiller1256 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't the 4.3 still with the 6spd auto?

    • @shitloveaduck
      @shitloveaduck 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      richard miller - I think you are right. Some say that transmission is still better than the 8 speed which can be quite hard shifting for some buyers.

  • @wldmhd
    @wldmhd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The next 5 years,
    I promise you, there will be US and others ((1.5 Liters Full-Size tracks)).
    The V8 tracks will be a treasure and you will be lucky if you have one. 😊

  • @atx-cvpi_99
    @atx-cvpi_99 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Don't buy the 2.7 turbo. Get a 5.3 or 6.2 instead if you want a Silverado or Sierra. You'll be happier with a V8 in the long run.

  • @ews360
    @ews360 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i wanted more torque for towing. 430 ft lbs vs 383 ft lbs in old high revving antiquated V8, so I went turbo 2.7. Just like Ford 2.7 V6 turbo, & Ram 3.0 I6 turbo replacing V8's.

  • @stevenpeterson7234
    @stevenpeterson7234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The 6.2L V8 is way better on fuel economy and more power.

    • @Chuckers84
      @Chuckers84 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the six two is terrible on fuel.

    • @samduran5180
      @samduran5180 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No mis understanding the video

    • @crazyhass84
      @crazyhass84 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its in l/100km num nuts!

    • @stevenpeterson7234
      @stevenpeterson7234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crazyhass84
      Hey dumb ass, 1/100km to miles is 621 miles so yeah is does suck on fuel lol

  • @kemkakemkani2608
    @kemkakemkani2608 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guys I'm living in a worm area similar to Texas and I'm thinking about buying a 2000-2006 GMC Yukon Denali is it a good buy because where I live it's the best bang for the buck

    • @sgbradley
      @sgbradley 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a very good but but if it's a gasoline engine, stay away from the diesel engine unless it's been rebuild to Bullet Proof standards!

    • @kemkakemkani2608
      @kemkakemkani2608 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sgbradley thanks buddy

    • @sgbradley
      @sgbradley 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kemkakemkani2608 N.Problem