Tenere 700's Biggest Design Flaw FIXED | Camel ADV High Exhaust Kit Test & Review
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Installing and testing the Camel ADV High Mount Exhaust Kit on the Tenere 700 (May not comply with Local Laws & Requirements).
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Dude the high front fender, The more aggressive tires, and that exhaust, Make your bike look soo sweet!!
Thanks man! I'm pretty happy with how it turned out!
@@SwankyCatProductions Looking at yours makes me want one but I will have to stick with my mighty KLR for now.
Hey man the KLR is a good machine! Took me everywhere I wanted to go and a few places I shouldn't have lol
The fact that you kept the struggle session in the snow is worth watching your channel, it's like your a real dude
Haha thanks!
A tubing cutter tool could work for the cutting with no chance of jagged lines or missed cuts
“I have no idea what I’m doing here, this was silly”. 🤣😎. Awesome video. Thank you for doing this.
Ha ha thanks man, I'm glad you liked it!
It sounds so awesome! I can't believe how good it sounds man. That kit is really clean too. Great install brother.
Thanks Island ADV! Yeah I'm really really happy with it. Gotta love that thunder!
@@SwankyCatProductions Hey Ben, I'm considering this mod. I am concerned about how loud it might be on long trips, especially considering the outlet would now be pointed upwards towards my ears. I know I could go with a different exhaust and just use Camel's link pipe, but the price for their muffler (I know it's an inexpensive outsourced one) is attractive. I appreciate your input in advance.
Love the way your bike looks with the new exhaust! The high front fender looks so much better than stock. Which bike fender did you use for that?
Looks like an 06-09 YZ fender IIHTG - That's a fender Camel ADV recommends and I've had (2)'07 YZ450's and that's a match IMO
Nice video. What sort of tail rack system are you using? Looks great.
This was sillly....kind of an understatement...nice T7
Tenere is an awesome bike, not counting
the 150lbs / 7kgs overweight aspect, and the fact
that so far, no one has modded the exhaust
to where it is like a dirt bike, not a GP Bike,
which would be behind the plastic quarter
-panel. What was done here is an
improvement, l'll leave it at that.
what?
@@DB-sd3cw wut?
You made that bike look very great! Congrats ! The fact I suspect you're not overly tall (no insult here, I'm not calling you short !) helps the combination bike-rider to look even better. With my 1.90m most aggressive bikes suddenly look pocket size when I'm on them ☹
Thank you! Haha I'm glad it looks good but it can be intimidating, especially in the snow and on single track!
Spring is almost here😃
I can't wait!!!
Just received the new Camel ADV "Enduro bend" high exhaust kit and a Black Widow CC30H full carbon silencer. It's the set-up I've been waiting on since taking delivery of my T7 in June of 2020. Designed specifically for those running rackless soft bags ( I have the full Tusk Highland system); you do have to take off the passenger footpegs and mounts. Other than the positioning of the pipe and can, I think I'm most psyched about the significant weight savings. Thanks for this vid. The installation of both the Rally and Enduro bends are very similar.
Nice! Yeah I was eyeing that new kit up. I've really come to like the angle of mine but that system makes way more sense for soft luggage. Looks great too!
Hey bud, I just got my Tenere 700 delivered today. I wanted to ask, do you think its better getting the Tusk Pannier that would save the Oem exhaust from falling than buying a Camel or Scorpion exhaust as my budget is tight?
Looking forward to hearing from you :)
I think either will work. If you don't mind the extra width and would like bags or boxes then go for the racks. If you think you'll want an aftermarket pipe anyway, I'd say reroute it with one of the kits.
@@SwankyCatProductions Thanks alot for your help. At thinking for a while, I went with the Camel ADV exhaust kit route. 🙏
Looks quality and sounds mean as hell. It's almost as if Yamaha knew everyone was going to swap the stock pipe out for an aftermarket one, so they didn't put a lot of thought into the design of it haha.
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I've got an Arrow exhaust on mine but I want to get it mounted high. Will need to get a custom job done for it.
Good video..bikes looking great 👍,. And the new exhaust sounds good. I like the sound of my standard T7 exhaust, but the Camel one is good too, with the DB killer in . Can I ask what make is your rear rack...? Cheers Steve
Thank you! Here's a link to the video I did on it, it's made by DirtRacks. th-cam.com/video/cqPjwjOhIlM/w-d-xo.html
Nice job Ben, that exhaust is sweet! I’ll definitely be looking at the Camel ADV High Exhaust for my Tenere.
Thanks Rich!!! It's definitely worth considering!
Say, that q-tip paint trick is a good idea. Never even thought of that. I always just used markers haha. This mod seems like a good idea. The stock setup puts an awful lot of leverage on that frame tube. Like you say, if you had a decent fall, I could see how that could really twist up the subframe back there. It's a nice looking setup!
Oh God, big bike in the snow, haha. Been there. It's a bit different isn't it, haha. I couldn't tell, did the db killer make much change in person? It's wife approved anyway, rofl. I really like your dash setup and how that GoPro attaches up there. That is slick. Anyway bud, great video. Glad you survived the tree gauntlet, haha.
My grandparents taught me that years ago when I was into fixing up old bicycles, works pretty good! Yeah idk who thought a foot long exhaust hanger was a good idea, talk about a breaker bar lol.
Ha ha yeah I've done it enough on my 250 but never thought I'd be trying it on a brand new 460lb parallel twin lol. Certainly an experience! Ha ha. The DB killer does drop the volume a bit but the tone goes up a bit which is what's most noticable... I think I might actually run it without lol. The mount I used is actually for my gps, I stole the bar mount one for my sled. But I do like that location better, it's nice to be able to see the bars. Ha ha yeah I cannot believe I didn't let it down or hit a tree at the end there lol.
How do those Tractionator tires hold up in the mud and colder weather? Are they very slippery or are they ok?
Kinda scary seeing a sawzall cutting away on a new bike but it sure is an improvement . I am putting on the Tusk panniers with Pilot bags so that might negate the need for this mod , we shall see . Good effort going out into the snow with that , at least you got a good workout .
Ha ha yeah it took me a week to work up the nerve but I'm glad I did it. Not sure I'd have done it if I planned on panniers, unless I knew I'd remove them at some point. Wouldn't hurt though I suppose.
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I have a few scratches and very small dings on my exhaust that probably wouldn't be there if I had Camels exhaust set up .
Got my bike back today after it's 600 service . Had them install the Rally Raid 95nm rear spring and Motoz Tractionator ADV tires . So much for the lowering linkage , haha those nobbys more than make up for the 20mm drop . Now I need a buddy to come over and help with the sag setting . But in the meantime I have a box of goodies from Rocky Mountain ATV/MC a tall windscreen from Touratech . Next month I hope to get Camels skid plate cause I put 1700 into it this month .
Also want to find a bracket that will work to put under the fork clamp so I can have pod lights that turn with the bars . That is so much better than just having them fixed in a forward position . Going to miss that feature with the DR650 . Worst case is I have to get a piece of Lexan or sheet metal and hillbilly fab something myself .
Finally got my T7. Probably order this kit.
Nice!!! They're cheaper kits out there that work but I'm pretty fond of mine.
To fix the biggest design flaw of this *fantastic* bike you would have to cut off the rearframe and reattach it with bolts so that you'r whole frame isn't bent after it has lain on its side a few times - and yes that shit happened to me, about 7000 Euro worth of damage and you could barely even see it. Glad i swapped that thing out for a 790r after that shit happened.
Nice set up! Have you tried the new set up with luggage. Soft bags, or hard cases. Any Issues?
I've not, just my old KLR bag on the rear rack which hasn't melted yet haha.
Your bike looks really nice..couple of questions if you don't mind..1..with your exhaust that high will it get in the way or burn a passenger?..2..if you put on soft side bags will it burn the bags?.thanks..
Thanks! I've not tried riding with a passenger yet. I plan on doing a video testing it out but I don't anticipate any issues. I think you'd definitely need some sort of racks to keep bags away from the pipe. I've got my old KLR tail bag on my rear rack now and it doesn't even get warm though.
...and that's when the indicator started melting...Moto Gadget to the rescue.
Literally copied the one i made in 2018 for my MT/FZ900 Tracer.
Can look straight out of the same Chinese LexTek factory,no bad thing,no issues after 8000 miles.
I'd have flipped the bottom clamp 180 degrees,for neatness.
Wouldn't worry about a spark arrester with the Cat still in!
Oh,put the clamp on without the grub screws,hit it with a centre punch,remove the clamp and use something akin to a M6 drill bit to make a recess on the original mount for the grubs to screw in to!
I love CADV stuff however I cringe at cutting that mount off as its part of (welded to) the frame. Another flaw of this bike IMO) There are other option out there that don't make you do that if you ever want to put it back to stock. Overall I love my T7!
I've been waiting for this install! I told Corey that I'd have to get it Swanky approved before ordering...
Haha aww man that is awesome!!! It's not perfect but I love mine!
Awesome looking bike mate, Do you think the high mount exhaust would make any different to mounting soft panniers like Mosko motos? Thanks dude
Thanks! I want to say I've seen people with both but I'm not 100% sure. I've only had my old KLR tail bag on mine so far.
Wow brother. That snow is a killa. Too much for this old man
My t7 should be in this month....looking at crash bars and rear rack....are those from yamaha or aftermarket? Great video by the way.
Nice! Don't get the Yamaha crash bars!!! I've seen people who have had them bend in and wreck there plastics. Mine are made by DirtRacks in Canada. They aren't anything fancy but have worked well so far and are relatively inexpensive. Here's the link to the install video I did, they go on super easy. th-cam.com/video/oC5YWaxCPrE/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for reply and info,, will be looking into the those.
Exhaust looks good! You deserved a 👍just for the effort! Thanks for the post!
Thanks!
Is that the standard option muffler from camel. If so where did u get the black end piece. When i look them up all i see is all steel.
Was just worried about the indicator but you noticed that :)
I've actually switched to the tusk blinkers and they're actually short enough I don't need the shield anymore! It also didn't fit haha.
Can you add a frameless luggage set-up (like Tusk or Mosko Moto) with the high exhaust?
Do they sell an off road exhaust kit that replaces the CAT with a straight pipe? Great video. I've been looking at the T7, F850 and Africa Twin. I was considering on waiting for the new 2022 KLR 650. but I like the look of the T7 and Africa twin.
There are aftermarket systems out there, I would assume they don't have a cat on them? I'm really happy with my T7, handles the type of both on and off road riding I do better than any other bike I've been on. Only issue is it's hard to keep the front tire on the ground haha.
@@SwankyCatProductions Thanks for the info . Really like the T7 for the cost, weight and looks compared to KTM and Honda. In AZ the T7 are going for 10K and the KTM790 are like 14K. Same with the Honda. I'm looking for a bike that I could ride to work and then load my camping gear on and hit the highway and do some back road traveling. I've always been a Kawi fan but the new release info on the new KLR650 was disappointing to say the least.
That's sounds great..will it fit the 2022 though?
Camel should be able to tell you for sure but I'd think so, unless they have a sensor on the mid pipe?
Love the video, love the bike! Be careful with your voice, you will destroy your vocal chords when you keep doing the vocal fry. Have a great day and keep up the great content!
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Nice sound Ben. I think I will wait a bit until the options include the Spark arrestor. Ill be loading the T7 up and headed for a little rider training in Southern Cali desert. Looking forward to a break from the snow in Washington state. Stay up on two!
Nice! Yeah it might be worth the wait. I had to jump on it so I could get the video out but I'm scrambling a bit to make sure I can ride trails when the snow melts ha ha. I'll get it figured out though!
Nice explanation for the install. Quick question though. The two hex screws that pinch the new mounting bracket on the cut pipes, could you drill those out and through the pipe to put a bolt and nut for a more "bulletproof" option? thanks
I think you definitely could yes. I felt a little funny about them at first but now that I've get a few miles on the system I don't even think about it.
@@SwankyCatProductions awesome thank you for the reply. Have a great day.
Panniers are why that Yamaha made it that way. ADV bike not dirt bike design. Though I would have liked to have seen Yamaha bolt that bracket to lugs on the frame. Racks and bags would protect this in the event of a fall.
Great vídeo. Is that the stock skidplate?
Thanks! Yep it is, I'm hoping to have it replaced before I ride again though!
@@SwankyCatProductions well it seems that so far you have not needed an aftermarket one. I like the plastic axp one. I ordered a Tenere and i really like your set up. I personally like the bike in all the colors and since I am in the waiting list, i would just get the first one available. I would probably get all the mods you have but the beak.
Much better than stock... but that indicator shield is a bit dicky.
For sure! Ha ha yeah my least favorite part of the kit but I think it's worth it!
Agreed, maybe if it was painted black with some stove/heat resistant paint it would blend in more and not be as noticeable?
Thanks for sharing, my Tenere is supposed to be in end of March. Just wandering if you know who the camel exhaust is made by, I assume its a quality muffler. Take care
Nice! I think it feels and sounds very quality but it's just a universal 51mm inlet muffler from eBay or Amazon.
Love the stock setup, looks like a Dakar bike but the support is flimsy...Camel's setup is one way to go.
Its nice to see you walking around normally. Would you say your back to 100% now?
Thanks! Not 100% but much better!
I have the Outback Motortek luggage rack which would appear to shield the exhaust from any impact and therefore obviate the need to change the exhaust.
Oh yeah the big racks would solve this but would be to wide for the trails I plan on riding.
I feel like the turn signals from TST industries would NOT require the heat shield on the signal. Their turn signals have a hollow portion around the actual light that would allow the heat from the exhaust to pass through.
Might help but I think it would still get a little warm.
I have not heard of the design flaw. What is it please?
Next addition; spiked tires. It's a ton of fun.
Haha I'll be it is!
Nice job on video. I was laughing with you not at you when you were in the snow. I am going with Huzar cause the pipe and muffler are tucked in more. Hopefully I can fit some soft luggage racks over the muffler that don't stick out so far and will add a little protection for the muffler.
Yeah that kit really hides everything well. Almost seems like that's what yamaha intended the way the rear swing arm is shaped.
U get the Huzar? Heard easier to deal via email wth them re ordering/shipping etc…
If u did, how’d the final install go…with any mods?
no problems with the install
Sounded really good. That journey in the yard oughta count for at least 2 weekly bike installments. Ride Safe Ride Often 👍🏼 😎 🇺🇸 🌎
Thanks! Lmao yeah I agree!
I like the q-tip tip!
Leaned that from my Grandparents! ha ha
Good call, I saw an issue with that giant can sticking out,just asking for it. Only thing I see ,It could get in the way of luggage is You even use it. Looks Sweet 👍 BTW, It blew my mind how heavy the stock can was vs. Yoshi one!
Yeah I'm not sure how soft luggage would work with this set up, I think I've seen it done but isn't really something I need so I haven't investigated it. Yeah the stock one is a big hunk of metal haha.
Nice vid! And nice to have so much space on your property, we are a bit more space challenged in the old continent, unfortunately... If I may ask - what crash bars are you using? They look perfect to hang my GIVI crash bags.
Thank you! They are made by DirtRacks in Canada.
Riding in that snow is much like riding in sand. Lol
Ha ha yeah a little more slippery but if imagine pretty similar to deep sand. The snow stuck in all the cracks just melted away on its own though which was nice lol
i just welded a gusset in mine. gone down hard several times with no issues
Found your channel when doing research on the KLR.
Bought a KLR.
Interested in the T7.....staying for the T7....
I want an apocalypse-proof twin, or something as a base for such. Hoping the T7 fits the bill.
I'd stick with a carbureted bike for that purpose. Have a few carb rebuild/gasket kits on hand. Even better, add a kickstart to an old KLR.
I really like the way you mounted the license-plate with really below-zero-dignity. It's obviously only there, because it has to.
Haha yeah I always saw that on dual sports and decided to try it. I tore a part of it off on a tree though and it was starting to tear more so I had to flip it around last weekend. I actually drilled holes in to mount it so I didn't need the extra bracket the tail tidy came with haha.
I wish i could mount the plate the same way to my Africa Twin, but since i live in southern germany and we have the StVZO, the Straßenverkehrszulassungsbehörde, this will be verboten. Such as driving anywhere else than on asphalt-roads is verboten. We have many Verbote and NoNoNo-rules over here... Very lustig
Is your Dad riding to Colorado this summer?
Yes I am with a fishing pole, Oh yes!
Fishing pole lmao what???
@@JerryAndKimcheeADV
What month will you be there? My nephew and I will be passing thru early July on our TAT trip. Would be neat to meet somewhere there for a beer and a burger. Definitely take the fishing pole. I lived in Colorado for 8 years. The fishing and hunting there caused my college career to take an extra year or two. Lol.
Got my exhaust from Camel and love it.
If you landed on the exhaust side wouldn't it still bend? Looks like all that kit does is shorten the bracket which while I'm sure it does stiffen things up a bit I would still imagine landing on that side would bend it
True, the pipe is still going to contact the ground first before the plastics. However I think that's the same position your in with most adventure bikes. But since the exhaust is now higher and tighter in to the bike, a rear crash bar would actually be effective. Where as before the pipe was to low and far out for any crash bar, other than huge pannier racks, to work.
Any issue on jumps? Did the pipe got perforated with the Brembo caliper?
No issues on jumps, no. I've got the suspension dialed in now but before that I bottomed the rear out on a few big hits and still had no issues.
How did you close the open ends of the two tubes you created by cutting the original bracket?
They don't get closed up at all. They are covered up a little by the bracket but I don't anticipate any issues because of it.
Curious to know did the indicator (turn signal) survive the direct blast from the exhaust. I am expecting it to melt away
I put the heat shield on it and never had a problem. I've actually switched them out for something brighter and a little shorter and now I don't have the shield on at all and still no issues.
Love the look of this silencer. The cat really kills the exhaust sound so Arrow decat header set will really make it roar.
Yeah I do too, fits the bike well!
Set screws holding the exhaust to the body? That seems like it would not be enough?
The angle of the tubes going into the bracket are what hold the pipe up. Even without the set screws you couldn't pull the bracket off if you tried. They just keep it from vibrating.
Any drop test updates on this? Im getting mine installed tomorrow!
Hasn't been down on that side since I installed mine. Won't be long though I'm sure haha.
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Many thanks for video! Really cool.
Best regards!
Great video! I did the same on my GS and I melted my indicator at highway speeds.
Thanks! Oh no! Hopefully the shield will help me avoid that.
I may need one of these bikes now.
They're a good time!
the silver of your hair goes well with the silver of the bike :P
Haha thanks!
Now you know why the muffler bracket bends so easy; the saw went through it like budda!😀
Yeah it sure did, it was a brand new blade but that surprised the heck out of me lol
At a guess I'd say you'd want it to bend easy, better than bending the frame of your bike and writing it off. But still a terrible design for such a great bike.
It needs a sheer pin design or a hanging bracket so the muffler can swing when crashing .. yes it’s less likely to bend the bracket/snap off the subframe because it doesn’t stick out as far.. unless you drop it on a log or rock
I've got a kit sitting on the garage floor waiting for instal, Im pretty worried about cutting the hangar.
Did you do it yet? I was pretty nervous as well but I'm definitely glad it's done now!
Not yet, I will though@@SwankyCatProductions
I’m hoping a company brings out a rear pannier rack to work in conjunction with this high exhaust. Keeping it narrow.
With the standard exhaust the rack system just stick out too much.
Bikes looking great!
Yeah I agree, I'm not big on panniers since my riding style doesn't really require them but some nice thin ones might interest me even. Might be too much of a niche market right not for anyone to invest the time though.
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Home made ones it is then!
🙂
Tusk makes some and you can get them online for about $400 and they’re metal.
@Will Davids confirm Tusks make the hard bags with this new high exhaust set up?
I had the same model xl250r in the background! Tough bike, I crashed mine too many times to count
Haha yeah it was a darn good machine!
awesome vid of an awesome bike. job well done 👍 subbed
I've sat on all these heavy adventures..
Grew up on a yz80 at 10.
Yz125, ktm 500.
R6 and r1.
But these are too big off road.
I'm a yamaha freak but I think I'm picking up a crf300l rally next unless yamaha announces they'll do something for 2023
Yeah having easy access to the ground is certainly a confidence booster. Not being able to flat foot on my KLR really bugged me for a long time but I forced myself to get past it and it's good I did because I have to lean the Tenere over to get one foot flat on the ground haha. Now if there was something with the same power, off road capability, ground clearance but a lower seat height I'd switch for sure lol but I make it work... Sort of haha
@@SwankyCatProductions husqvarna 701? ;)
Like I say, it's not built for the snow, we had a snowmobile I call big bertha. Bertha would take you through the snow with a sleigh and a big heavy load, like 2 or 300 pounds!
I think I’d only do this if the stock mount was damaged. My racks are wider than the muffler so will probably never be an issue
Yep, if you've got racks I wouldn't worry about it.
@@SwankyCatProductions considering soft luggage options as well now. Bike came with racks but they seem a postal service oriented.
With that exhaust, wouldnt heavy rain get into it?
Not if it's running! But otherwise, yeah it definitely could.
Snow is melting fast here.
Yeah... It's raining here, maybe I'll take the bike out tomorrow if the roads are clean ha ha
@@SwankyCatProductions I fired up the pellet grill and made burgers tonight. Good luck with views, this isn't a Pan America video. Lol
Ha ha yeah I think the snow might have melted off my propane grill by now, maybe I'll do that tomorrow! Lmao yeah I should probably do a video on that... I'm a little afraid about the backslash though lol
@@SwankyCatProductions my buddy was saying he was looking forward to the 2021 Harley Pomeranian. 😊
What tires are you running on your T7 in this video?
Motoz there's a link to them in the video description.
Sounds great man
Thanks man!
assemble heat items with copper grease coating on the touching metal surfaces?
Yeah should've done that, might still do it, have not been able to ride much yet.
At 10:03 when you pull on it, all bolts still need to tighten right? Does it move after it is torqued down?
Correct, once things are tightened there is almost no movement. The muffler bracket has a very small amount of give which is probably good. Very solid otherwise.
@@SwankyCatProductions thank you 👍🏻
Pauly Shore rides the T7, awesome!
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Great outcome.
What a glorious machine. HOW DID YOU LET IT GO !?!?!? hehe
You need to put a “timbersled kit”on that you thing man. Sounds good though. I’m gonna get one. But they keep getting on back order dang it. lol.
Lmao that would be awesome!!! Haha yeah I'm not sure what's going on, I've been seeing people talking about that on the Facebook group. Not cool.
Not gonna lie....I am not sure if I could have cut that bracket. It looks pretty awesome tho!
I had the kit for a week before I worked up the nerve to do it lol but I'm glad I did! Thanks Ron!
The low pipe is not my favorite, but has the advantage of not interfering with my saddlebags.
Don't quote me on this but i think the DirtRacks soft luggage racks world keep bags far enough away form this set up. But I can totally understand how the low pipe would be nice for that.
Yessir sounds soooo good
Thanks!
What bags can go on the bike w that pipe? It's looking like a passenger is out of the question unless they are wearing oven mits,and a fireproof suit..if dirt roads at low speed are your thing,and you don't want to trailer a bike..everyone is making 250's and 300's lighter,better suspension,engine and transmission for dirt roads..that require a licence plate and lights to get there
The pipe doesn't seem to get all the warm actually but I've not been able to get my wife on the back yet. I'll do a video on it when I do though. Not sure on bags, I think I've seen people use them though. I've actually opened a 250 for a long time, just sold it to a friend though.
Yeah sounds much better
Thanks Shane!
surely it would be better if the frame stubs were drilled and tapped so you could use longer grub screws to secure the new mounting bracket. It's not beyond the ken of the Camel designers to assume that anyone willing to hacksaw their £7K bike to fit a high level silencer would also own a drill, an M5 tap and a mechanical aptitude. Welding would be so much stronger and more reliable for a bike expected to be dropped on a fairly regular basis....
I thought that too. I assume they tested it both ways though and if both worked, my guess is they went this way since it's the simplest solution and requires the least amount of tools.
do you have a ref for the heat shield ? Thx
No, they just came with the kit.
It looks like the entire weight of the muffler is help up by 2 little set screws. I hope I’m wrong.
The set screws just sort of keep that bracket from rattling, the way the tubes enter it at an angle it cannot be pulling off.
Ok, it just looked wrong.
Huff and puff, haha. Enjoyed the video. :)
Haha thanks!