a drunk *black* scottish pirate cyclops wielding a giant sword and a ship's steering wheel as a shield, wearing arabian shoes, and with a fucking CANNON hidden up his ass.
That is actually true. In TF2, whenever you attack with your weapon (regardless if you hit anything or not), that damage is stored in the Crit Bucket (which can store up to 600 damage) and when you get a crit the game checks if you have enough damage stored in the Crit Bucket, If you have enough damage you get the crit but if you cant afford it then no crit happens.
@@ember2933 It's an RNG hammer that rolls from 1-9. If you hit someone with a 1, you basically deal more damage to yourself than to the enemy, but if you roll a 9, its basically a one-hit kill.
Yeah, as someone who used to play a whole lot of overwatch Junkrat was probably my most hated hero. He could just fill chokepoints with high damage spam and slow the game to a crawl. Get in his face and he can use his mines as a high damage get-out-of-jail free card. His ultimate is also practically a free kill if the junk player has even the slightest bit of game sense. Demo feels like his potential is higher but requires more thought and skill to play overall, though I gotta say a sticky-spamming demo with a Kritzkrieg shoved up his ass also makes me want to die.
@@Muttson idk man, as a masters junk main, he can be countered pretty easily due to his squishy nature, slow projectiles and the time his reload takes. Most flankers can absolutely decimate any junkrat, which is why good junks rarely camp, bc staying close to a shield and your teammate lowers the opportunities flankers have to kill you. Demo meanwhile has absolutely insane dps with the sticky/quickie bomb launcher, and even more incredible burst with direct pills. Yes he takes more skill, mostly due to tf2 not having the "crutches" ow has, but junkrat is not as spammy as you make it out to be
Yeah I never really hated Junk but I also played him a ton so I might be a little biased lol, he can be spammy but at least he isn't a fucking sniper based around spamming like Hanzo. I always did think his ult had a little too much range though. But I had problems with ults in general
As a both main, junk always felt like a genuine annoyance for the ennemy team, with more of a denial/shieldmelt role, meanwhile demo is very high dps on squishies, and the sticky bomb is rarely used for "traps", rather for dps
@@dimitridan8112 yeah, junk seems to be more of (depending on the player) either a Frontline burst dps with the oneshot combo or an artillery from the backline, and support defense
The skill floor for junkrat is a lot lower, but I'd argue mastering junkrat at a high level on average is just as difficult, if not harder, because it's so much easier hitting shots in TF2 with grenades and demo also has a sticky launcher or sword. Junk has a trap the mine is good for burst damage but means you can be mobile less often. More than anything movement in overwatch tends to be more unpredictable (discounting trimping and niche TF2 situations), and there are multiple heros that can just stay in the air for long periods of time. I don't think it's rocket science, but I'd say being able to fight back against good pharah players took more practice than hitting scouts or rocket jumping soldiers as demo.
The key difference is the games they're built around. In TF2, clearing sentry nests is a major part of Demo's gameplay. Whereas killing Torbjorn isn't as big a priority for Junkrat.
Demoman has more mobility, easier accessibility to a nuke (eight deployed sticky bombs), decent health and a more flexible playstyle (can be aggressive or defensive). Junkrat sacrifices aerial mobility for invulnerability to his own weapons. He only has access to a nuke (Rip-Tire) after sufficient damage is met but is easier to get it to an enemy group since he has full control of it. Though having more health than Demoman, he seems more fragile when compared to the beefier OW Heros. Junkrat seems to have an easier time escaping dangerous situations due to his kit when compared to Demoman. I wonder how both games will fair if their kits where switched. Demoman would probably be considered OP, not sure for Junkrat since there is so much stuff in that game.
Depending on the fir at demoman is already considered op but the no self damage would probably hurt him in the long run due to not being able to jump while his mines are recharging
@@jspark8990 considering the jumper weapons, i don't think a lack of self-damage would at all be a con it'd get in the way of free uber building, i guess?
@@hi-i-am-atan except you can still use the mines to kill people Also with the right weapon the jumper can be quite impactful (like the old caber so you could instantly drop med k. Competitive
@@jspark8990 ... you think demo not taking self damage would be a con, even though you can sticky jump with the sticky jumper despite it having not one but _two_ separate stats to keep it from dealing damage, because junkrat's mines can damage enemies? pardon?
Demomans weakness has always been up close, as his only reliable defense when someone is in his face is his melee. He could still use pipes but he has self damage which can get him killed. Demoknight or hybrid are good ways to counter this but it does sacrifice the stickybombs. This is also why scout vs demo is very heavily in favor of scout. Junkrats lack of self damage means he’s able to activate his ult and pipes up close with no worry about taking themselves out (this was a buff they gave him). It should also be noted that you can rollout with Junkrat with three mines on KoTH maps. He also has his passive which can kill people when he’s dead. Junkrats mines may not have as much potential for damage as Demos stickybombs but it does allow Junkrat to get free height advantage. Demoman would probably still do more damage, but this is also because tf2 lacks barriers or shields. In a universe where shields were in tf2, junkrats kit would be much more desirable even if it did a bit less damage. Oh yeah and the Orisa Spy joke killed me. Good vid!
Umm "barriers or shields" I think you just mean "barriers", shield is a type of health that regens after not taking damage for a bit, before you say Rein has a shield, in the cinematic "Honor and Glory" he says "Barrier is failing".
That argument is flawed in so many ways. Tf2 has mercs that require aim and mercs that don't require any semblance of skill (demo is hold left click in general direction of enemy) Overwatch has heroes that require aim with no damaging abilities like Tracer and Widow, while also having heroes with no aim requirement. Saying one takes more or less skill than the other is kinda redundant and stupid.
@@cookieelement3467 its not exactly like that. The sticky spam can be useful? Yes. But most of the time if you are face to an enemy you have the disvantage. You need to exactly know when to stickyspam or use your bomb launcher
So to answer the falloff for Junkrat, if you saw the most recent Experimental patch Blizzard decided to not put into the game, they were planning to add falloff to him to make him even more of a close range devastator. He did 150 damage at close range. Tracer mains were furious.
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Then demo would win that easily with his very high sticky damage and sentry nest breaking capabilities. AND he can ONLY be killed by falling off the map
hang on a secind. 7:00 600x6=3600 300x12=3600 but earlier it was established that tf2 healthpoints are worth more than over watch ones. So the damage comparison should be 600x6/1.6=2250 300x12=3600 So demo has higher burst damage in a normal game custom overwatch games allow for a free for all making 11 opponents possible so 600x11/1.6=4125 HOWEVER we forgot about the dalokohs bar allowing heavies to increase their health to be 350 350x12=4200 (I think games have a 32 player limit meaning 16 players can be on each team meaning the max a demo can do is 350x16=5600) So technically Demo has the highest damage should win even if we include Junkrats Rip tire
Demoman can on-demand artillery bomb a point with his stickybomb launchers - be it stock or scottish resistance. The scot can synergize with base jumper letting you rain a fuckload of bombs before det on demand, as well as set up some, maybe launching them to sniper points, from behind cover - then only detonating the ones below your feet to yeet you in the air, parachute, and go for the carpet bombing. "TF2 has no equivalent to the Riptire" Caber Knight tho
One thing to consider about Demoman is that his burst damage from a full sticky trap is absolutely going to be more than Junkrat's Overwatch-to-TF2-converted 600 damage per target, and that's worth noting since the stickybomb launcher's meant more to be used that way instead of just for stickyspam. I'd say that a full sticky trap is Demoman's equivalent to Junkrat's ultimate, but it's still easier to make happen than one since all you have to do is shoot all eight stickies into a place the enemy team is likely to push through without being able to see them easily and then wait.
When it comes to mobility, demo either sacrifices hp(for ones that do damage as well as fall damage) or damage(sticky jumper), were as junkrat’s mobility is more limited but does not do self damage. Also the map design in overwatch tends to be less open than the popular maps in tf2.
Yeah Map design and the knockback of sticky means Demo can get back to fight after respawning very quickly, Junkrat however can’t. Even if Junk does so, loosing two of his conc mine is going to reduce his burst damage significantly when hes back in the fight, while Demo could just reload😂
Both have very different playstyle(when they arent spamming😂) and effective range. Demo is very effective at mid range where pipes are relatively easy to hit and have the sticky spamming sweet spot. Junk is a bit more close range due to his self damage immunity, ability to one-shot squishy(light class) with his concussion mine combo at close range, and also because of the abundance of hitscan characters in ow compared to TF2, junkrat is going to lose most of the mid-range duels to other characters.
One thing, crit pipes or stickies have the same value of a nuke, Kriztkrieg and random crits exist and demo become just the lord of the death of every single multiple game.
to be honest, i think dredge from paladins out does both of them in damage 3 round burst grenades harpoon mine, and his ultimate meanwhile more useless than junkrats is a good crowd control on an objective point.
If we count paladins Jenos outdoes everything whit an ultimate able to hit behind cover,on the other side of the map and ko most characters I'm just kidding he has a powerful ultimate but it's very different from the other characters
I think it’s the opposite of the way you said it. The way Demoman just whips grenades over a wall and somehow gets kills with it makes him more of the artillery piece
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0:44 idk if you can say bastion is a copy of heavy. The other 8 are absolutely correct but heavy and bastion play very differently, I think that ones a stretch. I'd say heavy is the only tf2 character that doesn't have a direct inspiration in ow. Maybe like orisa but ehhh
You could also talk about shields what can completly change the situation, just for example, an sucefull charge with the 5H of the eyelander + the splendid screen can do +300 damage
Happy that you still mentioned weapon switching. i think the fact that junkrats "secondary" reloads by itself though should be countet into the possible sustained damage. as in tf2 you need to choose between the grenade launcher and the sticky launcher. There is more to think about here of course but im sure i don't need to mention it since there is so many big thinkers here : )
You say there isn't an ultimate equivalent in Team Fortress 2, but there are items that gain a huge bonus from consistent damage which charges a meter. You have Soldier's buff banners and Medic's Medi-Guns. There are the few odds and ends like Sniper's Hitman Heatmaker and Scout's Soda Popper.
Well in the comics, Demoman drank so much he killed the robots that wiped half his team sooooo... yeah I don't think anyone could beat demo after we drank an entire case of scrumpy.
Demoman: Has more weapons and therefore more abilities/options, plus knoledge of the mystical world Junkrat: Makes his arsenal out of the trash around him including his Rip Tire which can one shot almost any character, plus he's inmune to radioactive damage and his own explotions Pretty even if you ask me!
I was gonna make a meme about junkrat flat out being worse than demo but then I saw those balance changes I haven’t played the game in a while but…is that even legal? Is he allowed to deal 150 damage a shot? Won’t be be able to oneshot tracers now?
One thing you didn't mention. Junkrat reloads his grenade launcher as a clip. Demo had to load his 4 shots individually. This means Junkrat's long-term DPS is higher because by the time Demo gets off two clips Junk has gotten of maybe three clips.
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Oh shit some one already said it
Junkrat cannot cosplay a cyclop scottish pirate wielding a giant sword.
Demoman wins hands down
a drunk *black* scottish pirate cyclops wielding a giant sword and a ship's steering wheel as a shield, wearing arabian shoes, and with a fucking CANNON hidden up his ass.
@@swedneck *a man of fine move set, isn't he?*
Yes
Also overwatch totally copied tf2
I mean like come on
Junk has pirate skins too, and they look as good as TF2 cosmestics
@@xboxstudent yeah but worse
Junkrat has two eyes
Demoman has one eye
If we use the degroot family's logic:
Less eyes = more skill
Yeah but also Less Eyes = can’t see well
@@drneotech7254 gottem
@@drneotech7254 yeah but with eyes a haunted eye goes around and tries to kill your team
time for the fork
@@jcbarron2783 Yeah that’s probably not worth it
Crits are ults you just don't see the meter for it.
Who are you
Who is so wise in the ways of gaming?
That is actually true.
In TF2, whenever you attack with your weapon (regardless if you hit anything or not), that damage is stored in the Crit Bucket (which can store up to 600 damage) and when you get a crit the game checks if you have enough damage stored in the Crit Bucket, If you have enough damage you get the crit but if you cant afford it then no crit happens.
@@ember2933 holy shit
So random crits are basically just Mr. Game & Watch's bucket from SSBU?
@@PlasmaAsthmaOG I don't know how G&W works, but I guess so.
@@ember2933 It's an RNG hammer that rolls from 1-9. If you hit someone with a 1, you basically deal more damage to yourself than to the enemy, but if you roll a 9, its basically a one-hit kill.
Junkrat: can't equip a big-ass sword in a game about shooting stuff
Demoman: can equip a big-ass sword in game about shooting stuff
*Demo wins*
and demo can fly with piece of wood on his left arm
@@abopotato6457DID YOU MISCLICK THE WORD 'PAN' WITH 'WOOD???!!!!!
@@naqeebinstisyar8 tide turner
@@abopotato6457 pain train in his right hand
why have a sword, if you could have a golf club?
Junkrat is 100% spammier than Demo. His bombs still explode on contact no matter how many times they hit geometry and he has infinite ammo.
Yeah, as someone who used to play a whole lot of overwatch Junkrat was probably my most hated hero. He could just fill chokepoints with high damage spam and slow the game to a crawl. Get in his face and he can use his mines as a high damage get-out-of-jail free card. His ultimate is also practically a free kill if the junk player has even the slightest bit of game sense. Demo feels like his potential is higher but requires more thought and skill to play overall, though I gotta say a sticky-spamming demo with a Kritzkrieg shoved up his ass also makes me want to die.
@@Muttson idk man, as a masters junk main, he can be countered pretty easily due to his squishy nature, slow projectiles and the time his reload takes. Most flankers can absolutely decimate any junkrat, which is why good junks rarely camp, bc staying close to a shield and your teammate lowers the opportunities flankers have to kill you. Demo meanwhile has absolutely insane dps with the sticky/quickie bomb launcher, and even more incredible burst with direct pills. Yes he takes more skill, mostly due to tf2 not having the "crutches" ow has, but junkrat is not as spammy as you make it out to be
Yeah I never really hated Junk but I also played him a ton so I might be a little biased lol, he can be spammy but at least he isn't a fucking sniper based around spamming like Hanzo.
I always did think his ult had a little too much range though. But I had problems with ults in general
As a junk main in OW, yeah demo takes more skill
As a main of both. Shh we don't say that here.
As a man of neither. B
As a both main, junk always felt like a genuine annoyance for the ennemy team, with more of a denial/shieldmelt role, meanwhile demo is very high dps on squishies, and the sticky bomb is rarely used for "traps", rather for dps
@@dimitridan8112 yeah, junk seems to be more of (depending on the player) either a Frontline burst dps with the oneshot combo or an artillery from the backline, and support defense
The skill floor for junkrat is a lot lower, but I'd argue mastering junkrat at a high level on average is just as difficult, if not harder, because it's so much easier hitting shots in TF2 with grenades and demo also has a sticky launcher or sword. Junk has a trap the mine is good for burst damage but means you can be mobile less often.
More than anything movement in overwatch tends to be more unpredictable (discounting trimping and niche TF2 situations), and there are multiple heros that can just stay in the air for long periods of time. I don't think it's rocket science, but I'd say being able to fight back against good pharah players took more practice than hitting scouts or rocket jumping soldiers as demo.
“TF2 has no equivalent to riptire” *distant sounds of demoknight charging*
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Ullapol caber explosion in the distance
rush of the explosions heat wave felt miles away
Caber Knight
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The closest TF2 has for a bomb tire is a Caber Knight.
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HOLY SHIT ITS DEMOMAN
The key difference is the games they're built around. In TF2, clearing sentry nests is a major part of Demo's gameplay. Whereas killing Torbjorn isn't as big a priority for Junkrat.
but bastion is
Demoman has more mobility, easier accessibility to a nuke (eight deployed sticky bombs), decent health and a more flexible playstyle (can be aggressive or defensive).
Junkrat sacrifices aerial mobility for invulnerability to his own weapons. He only has access to a nuke (Rip-Tire) after sufficient damage is met but is easier to get it to an enemy group since he has full control of it. Though having more health than Demoman, he seems more fragile when compared to the beefier OW Heros. Junkrat seems to have an easier time escaping dangerous situations due to his kit when compared to Demoman.
I wonder how both games will fair if their kits where switched. Demoman would probably be considered OP, not sure for Junkrat since there is so much stuff in that game.
Depending on the fir at demoman is already considered op but the no self damage would probably hurt him in the long run due to not being able to jump while his mines are recharging
@@jspark8990 considering the jumper weapons, i don't think a lack of self-damage would at all be a con
it'd get in the way of free uber building, i guess?
@@hi-i-am-atan except you can still use the mines to kill people
Also with the right weapon the jumper can be quite impactful (like the old caber so you could instantly drop med k. Competitive
@@jspark8990 ... you think demo not taking self damage would be a con, even though you can sticky jump with the sticky jumper despite it having not one but _two_ separate stats to keep it from dealing damage, because junkrat's mines can damage enemies?
pardon?
he also has a big ass frying pan, he can fight while drunk godammit
Great Video and clearly Orisa and Spy are the exact same thing.
How about Sombra?
@@C0urierbutterfly21 nah she's just a complete rip-off of Soldier
@@grubman8401 that's pharah
ah spy is using his disguise to sneak into overwatch to figure out how to get updates for tf2 right?
@@metallord6960 no, pharaoh is just engineer with wrangler
I’d say Junk rat’s aim is cancer but cancer actually kills people
Ouch.
@@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth gottem
at least demoman has a reason to have bad aim
@@user-ow2cs7fb5l he’s drunk and that’s his excuse
@@youraveragemedicmain8434 he's a drunk bloody scottish cyclops, there are more *********** than the likes of him...
junk rat: Money and explosives.
demoman: soup can
whoever wins, im pretty sure you will always support demo
you will always stays on demo's side
demo is love, demo is life
That's what we call, a Demosexual
Hi demo
"TF2 Doesn't have an equivalent to the OW ultimate (Ripped tire)"
Caber knight mains : Allow us to introduce ourselves.
Demomans weakness has always been up close, as his only reliable defense when someone is in his face is his melee. He could still use pipes but he has self damage which can get him killed. Demoknight or hybrid are good ways to counter this but it does sacrifice the stickybombs. This is also why scout vs demo is very heavily in favor of scout.
Junkrats lack of self damage means he’s able to activate his ult and pipes up close with no worry about taking themselves out (this was a buff they gave him). It should also be noted that you can rollout with Junkrat with three mines on KoTH maps. He also has his passive which can kill people when he’s dead. Junkrats mines may not have as much potential for damage as Demos stickybombs but it does allow Junkrat to get free height advantage.
Demoman would probably still do more damage, but this is also because tf2 lacks barriers or shields. In a universe where shields were in tf2, junkrats kit would be much more desirable even if it did a bit less damage.
Oh yeah and the Orisa Spy joke killed me. Good vid!
Umm "barriers or shields" I think you just mean "barriers", shield is a type of health that regens after not taking damage for a bit, before you say Rein has a shield, in the cinematic "Honor and Glory" he says "Barrier is failing".
@@heinrichkrull2523 I know what you mean but,
“Neeeeeeeeeerrrrrdd!”
@@presseagainidareyou4704 I deserve that.
Just pull out ur bottle o scrumpy and get a crit
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TF2: Put hours into a class learning the different and subtle mechanics of each one.
Overwatch: Just hit a button and get kills lol
sticky spam is click 2 buttons get kills
That argument is flawed in so many ways. Tf2 has mercs that require aim and mercs that don't require any semblance of skill (demo is hold left click in general direction of enemy)
Overwatch has heroes that require aim with no damaging abilities like Tracer and Widow, while also having heroes with no aim requirement.
Saying one takes more or less skill than the other is kinda redundant and stupid.
you have to wiggle the mouse in *just* the right way before clicking button, to be fair
@@cookieelement3467 ... If you just hold M1 as a demo, you're doing it wrong.
@@cookieelement3467 its not exactly like that. The sticky spam can be useful? Yes. But most of the time if you are face to an enemy you have the disvantage. You need to exactly know when to stickyspam or use your bomb launcher
So to answer the falloff for Junkrat, if you saw the most recent Experimental patch Blizzard decided to not put into the game, they were planning to add falloff to him to make him even more of a close range devastator. He did 150 damage at close range. Tracer mains were furious.
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“TF2 has no equivalent to riptire”
Caber Knight: Am I a joke to you?
"Corporate wants you to find the differences in these pictures"
Raze - Junkrat - Demoman
"They're the same picture"
Demoman: Takes Skill
Junkrat: Takes No Skill
I don't see a fair match
"Nationality: Bagpipe"
you're a man after my own heart
Demoman - Is a cannon, a train, and a plane, has bottle, most devastating randomcrits and an interesing personality
Junkrat: Trashdude with a wheel
I feel like for demoman not having an ultimate, you could have compared how effective Uber is on demo compared to how effective junkrat’s ultimate is
Then demo would win that easily with his very high sticky damage and sentry nest breaking capabilities. AND he can ONLY be killed by falling off the map
@@theastroguy7417 kritz sticky demo goes thonk
@@theastroguy7417 oh and telefragging
to be fair, at that point you're comparing medic and junkrat
this is meant to be a comparison between both characters alone
@@dombelly3343regardless random crits are still something to take into account
Junkrat: i win with my riptyre
Demoman: *draws out Splendid screen and eyelander* ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT
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Female Junkrat looks vaguely like not-so-tiny Tina from Borderlands. That is a good thing.
If you answered demoman even before watching the video you deserve a chad medal.
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Overwatch: Ultimates
TF2: Random Critical Hits
Every video I wait for the "hold your horses" and every video it's there
hang on a secind. 7:00
600x6=3600
300x12=3600
but earlier it was established that tf2 healthpoints are worth more than over watch ones. So the damage comparison should be
600x6/1.6=2250
300x12=3600
So demo has higher burst damage in a normal game
custom overwatch games allow for a free for all making 11 opponents possible so
600x11/1.6=4125
HOWEVER we forgot about the dalokohs bar allowing heavies to increase their health to be 350
350x12=4200
(I think games have a 32 player limit meaning 16 players can be on each team meaning the max a demo can do is 350x16=5600)
So technically Demo has the highest damage should win even if we include Junkrats Rip tire
"If I was a good demoman I wouldn't be sitting here talking to you about it," -A Good Demoman
Tbh, Junk Rat is one of the reasons I developed some interest in Overwatch
Demoman can on-demand artillery bomb a point with his stickybomb launchers - be it stock or scottish resistance. The scot can synergize with base jumper letting you rain a fuckload of bombs before det on demand, as well as set up some, maybe launching them to sniper points, from behind cover - then only detonating the ones below your feet to yeet you in the air, parachute, and go for the carpet bombing.
"TF2 has no equivalent to the Riptire"
Caber Knight tho
One thing to consider about Demoman is that his burst damage from a full sticky trap is absolutely going to be more than Junkrat's Overwatch-to-TF2-converted 600 damage per target, and that's worth noting since the stickybomb launcher's meant more to be used that way instead of just for stickyspam. I'd say that a full sticky trap is Demoman's equivalent to Junkrat's ultimate, but it's still easier to make happen than one since all you have to do is shoot all eight stickies into a place the enemy team is likely to push through without being able to see them easily and then wait.
When it comes to mobility, demo either sacrifices hp(for ones that do damage as well as fall damage) or damage(sticky jumper), were as junkrat’s mobility is more limited but does not do self damage. Also the map design in overwatch tends to be less open than the popular maps in tf2.
Yeah Map design and the knockback of sticky means Demo can get back to fight after respawning very quickly, Junkrat however can’t. Even if Junk does so, loosing two of his conc mine is going to reduce his burst damage significantly when hes back in the fight, while Demo could just reload😂
@@guitarninja416 Depends on the map ans spawn point.
"Demo man has some pretty insane mobility"
*Doesn't include trimping*
Tavish Degroot Knight Warrior Team Fortress 2, aka Demoknight TF2
Both have very different playstyle(when they arent spamming😂) and effective range.
Demo is very effective at mid range where pipes are relatively easy to hit and have the sticky spamming sweet spot.
Junk is a bit more close range due to his self damage immunity, ability to one-shot squishy(light class) with his concussion mine combo at close range, and also because of the abundance of hitscan characters in ow compared to TF2, junkrat is going to lose most of the mid-range duels to other characters.
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At 0:43 he mixed up the placements for pyro and soldier compared to the screen in game that you see to choose a class
This was a great video idea
Good to see you again Toofty!
Thanks Toofty, this video got me into Overwatch in 2022
I love the way these videos are made!
Being two of my favorite games, it’s pretty cool seeing two of my favorite characters from them being compared.
I like how the nationality of the demo is the bagpipe
Great to have you back Toofty
Fun fact it would be funny
Junkrat's ult vs demoknight.
Not in which demo can survive it but in utility.
t h e s e x o f m a n
The fact that toofty calculates all HP and dmg in TF2 stats
Uhhh.. that's litteraly 4th grade math it ain't that hard
@@stresswaves01 "aint"
One thing, crit pipes or stickies have the same value of a nuke, Kriztkrieg and random crits exist and demo become just the lord of the death of every single multiple game.
A good reason junkrat would win in a fist fight is he would probably pay road hog to crush him
to be honest, i think dredge from paladins out does both of them in damage
3 round burst grenades
harpoon mine, and his ultimate meanwhile more useless than junkrats is a good crowd control on an objective point.
Paladins? More like an unfortunately forgotten game with a very low player base that was clearly inspired but team fortress 2 and overwatch!
@@coldgal8476 bruh you haven't see the present day paladins then
If we count paladins Jenos outdoes everything whit an ultimate able to hit behind cover,on the other side of the map and ko most characters
I'm just kidding he has a powerful ultimate but it's very different from the other characters
He has a pan, but om
@@Yummerlicious w h a t
Which trap guy would make a better trap?
FINALLY HE ANSWERED
I think it’s the opposite of the way you said it.
The way Demoman just whips grenades over a wall and somehow gets kills with it makes him more of the artillery piece
are you going to continue your best loadouts for each class? i like those videos, and ive been looking forward to the next one since heavy.
I love that he says at the begining Doom-o man and joink-rat
Spledin screen Persian pusador demoknight: *laughs in 100x*
I have just lost almost all of my brain cells and have regained half of it after the winner was announced.
"...yer arses ass and I'm the grass man, punk yeah ya havin' heathen."
- Tavish Finnegan DeGroot
When you wanted a high five I also wanted a high five because that was a very funny joke but there was no other hand to five high so I just slapped my own face
Yeees! Demoman takes skill to master, but with any ow character you need to learn reading the damn gamefield with all that particle effects.
Alright, lets be honest. Who would win? A team from the 1960s or a team from 2070? Honest to god it would be a fair fight at all lmao.
I CANT BELIEVE TOOFTY USED THE "NAZARÉ CONFUSA" MEME FROM A BRAZILIAN SOAP OPERA WHEN DOING THE 4X100 MATH!!! BRAZIL MUCH APRECIATES UR TRIBUTE!!
0:44 idk if you can say bastion is a copy of heavy. The other 8 are absolutely correct but heavy and bastion play very differently, I think that ones a stretch. I'd say heavy is the only tf2 character that doesn't have a direct inspiration in ow. Maybe like orisa but ehhh
Doomoman. Perfect name.
As someone who mains both junkrat and demoman, neither require skill.
"Demoman takes skill"
didn't know Toofty had a sense of humour
Did this man just say “Doomoman”?
They say that an eye for an eye leaves the world blind, but Demoman only has one, so i have the advantage.
- TheWhat Show
You could also talk about shields what can completly change the situation, just for example, an sucefull charge with the 5H of the eyelander + the splendid screen can do +300 damage
Happy that you still mentioned weapon switching. i think the fact that junkrats "secondary" reloads by itself though should be countet into the possible sustained damage. as in tf2 you need to choose between the grenade launcher and the sticky launcher. There is more to think about here of course but im sure i don't need to mention it since there is so many big thinkers here : )
You say there isn't an ultimate equivalent in Team Fortress 2, but there are items that gain a huge bonus from consistent damage which charges a meter. You have Soldier's buff banners and Medic's Medi-Guns. There are the few odds and ends like Sniper's Hitman Heatmaker and Scout's Soda Popper.
Well in the comics, Demoman drank so much he killed the robots that wiped half his team sooooo... yeah I don't think anyone could beat demo after we drank an entire case of scrumpy.
Demoman: I can rap Drunk!
they would work well together. fourteen stickies plus a bear trap is an instant kill shutout of a chokepoint
Toofty just has this really goodtimeswithscar vibe. He just sounds so friendly and comforting.
Big fan of Scar
Demoman: Has more weapons and therefore more abilities/options, plus knoledge of the mystical world
Junkrat: Makes his arsenal out of the trash around him including his Rip Tire which can one shot almost any character, plus he's inmune to radioactive damage and his own explotions
Pretty even if you ask me!
Demoman VS Junkrat - Who does more spam?
my first reaction is huh how old is this vid then completely suprised its just a day ago
This was 6 months ago but still bombinamacon
I don't think both games share code, i haven't found the coconut in Overwatch
Junkrat’s wheel is demoknight
Aye! Me bottle of scrumpe! FREE-
I was gonna make a meme about junkrat flat out being worse than demo but then I saw those balance changes
I haven’t played the game in a while but…is that even legal? Is he allowed to deal 150 damage a shot? Won’t be be able to oneshot tracers now?
what i love most about demo is the clean and flat 100 damage direct pipes. you can confidently melt through heavies and what not
Toof upload is always a good upload
One thing you didn't mention.
Junkrat reloads his grenade launcher as a clip.
Demo had to load his 4 shots individually.
This means Junkrat's long-term DPS is higher because by the time Demo gets off two clips Junk has gotten of maybe three clips.
Junk rat is a simple character while Demoman takes skill
Drunk > Insane
Junkrat is demoman with medic's personality.
My bet: Demoman.
6:45
Tide Turner-Caber combo enjoyers: ಠ_ಠ
also, remember that his explosives doesn't do damange to junkrat. so he can be more closer to a target, and also agresive than demoman could.
ok Overwatch fanboy
6:44
but have you heard of a caber demo?