"Farm Use"... As a 14 year old, during the summer of 1975, I drove my uncles 1958 IH two axle truck, with a dual axle flat bed trailer five miles back and forth between his barn and his hay field. My uncle loaded hay bales onto the trailer with his tractor and I drove the truck and trailer back to the barn and my cousin unloaded the hay bales into the barn. We did this for two weeks. Of course, the truck had no brakes and you had to remove the plywood covering the windshield on the passenger side before you moved the truck. Yup, farm use.
*Sherman tank is worth $225K if whole in that exact condition. Fab a new deck and put a turret on it (I know where one is) and you've got a $525K machine.*
I dunno what the rules are today,but in the 60’s in England a 15 year old with a farm/tractor licence could drive on the road 3 miles between fields/farms. So if you had a string of fields…. legal driving age on 4 wheels being 17 at the time, probably still is.
@@CrimeVid Where I am within150miles of the farthest field, the farm exception removes all restrictions from a driver's license. So 15 year old me was driving an 86,000lb load down the highway, of course I'd been doing that for a few years already.
Yeah I've seen and heard of some ingenious people getting pulled over be given warning like "we both know this ain't gonna fly, but A+ for effort, I know you're just going from A to B, I'm in a good mood, go straight home and don't let me see this again"
it's a hard judgement call, but empty trailer and clear signs of being hauled for repair and made legal or one way to be scraped? yeah, no issues there, so long s the "tow rig is legal" it would be equivalent of ticketing a tow truck driver for not hauling everything wrecked or broken down on a flat bed. that's the best example I can think of
It's amazing they drive the truck and trailer fully loaded and have no idea about pretrip or what low air means or when it's gonna lock up, it's crazy some of the farm videos on TH-cam with girls driving farm trucks that have no clue how to even do a in cab pretrip
@@kwmiked ya because they drive tractors all the time and y put a female into it anyone can screw up plus when farmers do drive those big trucks is usually harvest
Gotta love triangle license plate. I would say legal because it can be used on the farm. As a retired heavy hauler I would suggest rough cut oak from a sawmill for the floor. She's a beaut Clark.
Black locust will also last forever. I just redecked a trailer with red oak. Brought a log to my buddies sawmill and sliced it up. That was last year, been meaning to spray it with used motor oil/diesel mix top & bottom. My usual way to preserve wood/equipment/trucks. It soaks in and isn't slippery in a couple days, and things do not rust or rot. White oak can split/check apart. Its why furniture isn't made from white oak, so ive been told by sawmill guy and an arborist.
Excited to see the transformation! Now, I just want to add something.. as a trucker here in the United States, my thing is hauling oversized/overweight loads.. I have a big Peterbilt and a Fontaine tri-axle lowboy. My tare weight is 44,500lbs. Now, I am not that familiar with Ontario, but down here if I am hauling a piece of equipment and my gross weight exceeds 80,000lbs, I am not allowed to have more than one thing on the trailer at a time. That creates a divisible load and that is illegal in most jurisdictions. So, let's say your tare weight is similar to mine, add the tank at 50k, you're sitting at 95,000lbs gross. That makes you not only overwidth but overweight as well. And that would mean you cannot haul your Bronco on the back of the trailer. 2 separate pieces, overweight load, that means you're divisible. Again, I am not that familiar with Ontario, but here in the states, that is a BIG no-no. Even something as simple as a spare tire, a set of forks to go with a loader, tracks for a machine that are loosely on your deck, that all makes you divisible and will get you parked and out of serviced by the police.
@@DGHD I was gonna suggest that as it may turn out to be a good idea. Him following or leading you could make for some killer shots on camera! And if you ever do haul something wide or long that needs to be escorted, I second Carl's idea about getting him to become a certified escort. Hiring one is ridiculously expensive! Let me know if you have any questions, as this topic can get somewhat difficult. I'll do my best to help. I also hope one day to see this beautiful KW in person! 😍
We have one of these at work. Honestly, it's not a bad piece of equipment if ya know how to fix the problems. I had to personally do it after someone recked the locking dogs on ours, but after that, I think they are "for the price" a pretty reliable trailer. If ya have any questions about stuff and sizes, don't be afraid to ask. And good lock on finding some of the components for the breaks, we had a bitch of a time when we rebuilt ours.
Indiana here, too. I don't remember what a bale of straw costs. I can get them from Menard's for a few bucks, but I know that where I am I can get them for free after one of our fall festivals.
You're going to need weight permits in the US, too, if the trailer weighs 20K, and the tank weighs 50K, plus whatever the cab over weighs. In most of the US, the highway weight limit is 80K. Some states have bridge laws that allow for more weight without permiting, but you're going to need more axles.
It’s no Rogers but it’ll do nicely for what you guys are doing. The pony motor setups are nice because you can hook up to any class 8 tractor and take it down the road, no 2 line wet kit required.
A buddy of mine used his JCB Fast tractor and a 8940 Case tractor to move his excavator and the crusher around to different jobs. Never had a issue with mto or police. It was his way of getting around the safety inspection each year on the trailer after his old semi truck died.
Might run into some trouble of your try and haul the tank and the bronco at the same time on the same trailer. At least here in the states most "oversize" loads must be non-divisable (not able to be reduced) that normally means only one peice of equipment at a time
The non-divisible part only applies to the oversize piece itself. You can have an oversize item and a non oversize item on the same trailer, or multiple oversize items that have been reduced to their smallest dimension. You cannot however have multiple items that would normally be legal dimension loaded in a way that exceeds legal dimensions, or have an oversize item with an easily removable attachment that increases its dimensions attached.
The oversize would be for the tank height/width, the bronco would be along for the ride as long as the weights are correct. Say if the tracks were removable or the cab/bed was removable, then yeah it would be considered as divisible.
The non divisible issue pertains to weight. Not dimensions. You can have as many over dimensional pieces as you want as long as you’re not over 80k. This is for the states.
Get a quote on complete axle "drum to drum". Would usually work out cheaper then replacing all components individually attached/missing! Just cut off & re-weld your mounting/locating hardware from your old one.
A little google search looks like it would be about $200 per wheel just for the parts, and I'm sure he could do the labor himself. I haven't priced an axle but I don't think you could get a loaded axle for $400.
Here in the UK as long as the brakes sort of work you are legal towing such things with an agricultural tractor, you don't need to have anything on the trailer as you could be collecting something or coming back from delivery. One farmer near me uses such a trailer to move a 360 excavator around, which is used for ditch maintenance etc.
Rich for ontario atleast you can get a blanket oversized permit that covers everwhere in ontario so you dont need permits everytime you go out its an annual permit
At my old job, we had a ground bearing lb like that, we stuck like a 2 or 2.5" steel block under those legs and it gave the trailer a much high righ hight in the front. Just food for thought
A real float man has 4 different sized blocks . Sometimes you just have to be dangerously close to ground for a high load. In my case for off road logging ,I jack it up to make it over humpbacks and mud holes. A different float than this thou, a Parron 70000 .
I just picked up a derelict 45’ spread axle flat bed. I didn’t film it because we took all the back roads home. I’ll be doing the rehab on my channel as well. Good luck Rich! Love both your channels!
I don’t know about Canadia, but in the states you can’t load a second item on an overweight load. It would then become a reducible load and void your permits.
Here's a trick for the rust pits on chrome piston rods or motorcycle forks. Emery the pits, clean the rust off the bare steel then build up with some super glue and clean up with fine wet and dry.
Could have used the electric start on the trailers engine to turn the hydraulics enough to do what you needed to do. I’ve had to do that exact thing on my hydro boat trailer before in the middle of a haul and the motor crapped out.
Rich those new rims look like durabrights, they have a coating on them to prevent corrosion. You may not have to sandblast them, just wash them and they look nice and new
Several years ago I bought a New Idea pull type corn picker from a dealer in Canada. He arranged trucking to Alabama at a good deal stating that "Farm Equipment gets special rules when it comes to wide loads".
This whole episode reminds me of my farmer neighbor came home with a grain truck with air brakes... I heard the parking brake go on and I asked him if he had an air brake endorsement on his license... He told me I'm a farmer, What do I need that for.
I don't know about your haybale theory, sir. MAYBE if the FMCSA stopped you, you could talk them into it. But if you had a wreck, if that trailer is not mechanically sound, it could cost you everything. Oh, you are going to PULL it with the farm tractor? Genius. I agree with your "Grey area" theory - I don't know from the Great White North, but I don't think a cop in the states would have ticketed you. I love it - it's just the right trailer for moving the Sherminator. I look forward to seeing the old tank chassis at a show someday. that box filled with ratchet straps is almost better than cash. I can't wait to see the Sherminator going down a highway near me! Of course, I'll look close to see if you have the right amount of chains on it! At 21:30 - that's a nice looking old Ford (Is that called an L9000?) I really enjoy your content, sir. good work.
Immediately got where you were going with this once I saw the hay bale in the back of your truck 🤣 Sometimes you just gotta play the system, end of the day the trailer needs to be moved. Those mint chains too though 😍
Could have had a EWE and maybe a RAM (Dodge ram that is) also on the trailer as an animal load (or maybe could have had the ewe on the back of the ram, on the low-boy ? .. Funny that as Rams are normally on the back of the Ewe's)
Hey Rich im excited another Rusty rebuild we need to get into it all the shiny cars are nice but i love trucks tractors and now trailers ,im 66yrs old retired truck driver and love all the utube will it start content ,but ive been watching your channel for a few years now and i love how your not shy to get greasy ,thats the world im from thanks mate Kym Adelaide
For the times you will get the trailer bottomed out, and you will, I recommend that you carry a pair of blocks , steel or good hard wood to block under the stiff legs to allow you to raise the lift cylinder foot up and have the frame higher.
The only thing "more legal" would have been having a 12 yr old kid drive it down the road for you!!! I love the randomness of the Ontario highway laws! Worse than getting stuck on train tracks with a low boy .. are the guys that power through the tracks witha low boy and "relocate" one of the rails!!! Looks like a fun project! Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦
Those trailers are a dime-a-dozen for sale along the Gulf Coast, seem several of them over the last several months. They have been going for pretty cheap too.
Witzco's are cheap but they're not a bad trailer for the money, the biggest problem is the ground bearing neck. As far as putting those axles together when I was looking at doing a complete axle rebuild I just opted for new complete axles that came with everything. 4 years ago they were $1200 each now they're $1850 each.
@@FondelMikeRotch it really is the easiest and I figured the cost is actually cheaper to go new and it saves you a ton of labor and if you replace the brake drums,bearings and races it's a lot cheaper just to go new.
We have that same trailer just 12ft wide for our combine and sprayer, our seals are going on the lift cylinders so we just chain them up always lol I think ours is an 05 just as rusty here in Minnesota
You might be the first truck driver ever to think about railroad crossings before hitching up, great to hear it. The car or truck always loses in a crossing accident but the train doesn't win, hitting a large vehicle has the potential to cause a derailment and injure or kill the train crew as well.
I'm from Pennsylvania, mostly Amish around here. Pretty much anything goes under "farm use." I've seen ALOT more sketchy stuff from the mushroom houses, too.
I don't know about in Canada, but I believe in the US you can not have have two separate vehicles/cargo (divisible load) on one trailer when overweight permits are involved meaning the Bronco and Sherman may be a no go, at least here.
Yeah I figured those cylinder's were fine. I use to build them, I've never seen a hydraulic cylinder's seize up! that's basically unheard of. You could always buy used ones or build your own if you absolutely had too.
If you end up going to Texas or Florida is there any chance you’ll take 81 or I-90 through New York? You basically have to go 1 of two ways coming from canada with a semi, would love to be able to post up somewhere and take some pictures of you driving by. We own a farm here in the Syracuse area and I love the show/posts/videos/content you create Rich. Watched you for a few years now love the DGHD channel
I'm excited to see this project progress! I'm guessing that you'll be able to scrap the pony hydraulics and be able to use the K100 wet kit to operate the trailer. That would be pretty nice. Great video!
@@DGHD I'd still keep the pony motor though, just plumb in a valve so you can use either. That's how our Aspen is set up and the even though our main lowboy trucks have PTOs the pony motor has still come in handy a few times. I'd also look at adding some chain baskets in the deck when you have the whole thing apart. It's way more convenient to have the chains close to where you use them vs up in the neck.
@@averyw.3939 Always good to have a backup. Like when I ripped off the wet lines at the railroad tracks hauling a paver at 4:00 am. I drove 2 city blocks before I realized the disconnect .
Growing up in BC--where even a forklift that only ever makes a trip across the road needs a license plate--Ontario's "slap an orange triangle and a hay bale on 'er" laws were a pleasant surprise. You can move some weird things down a road, just make sure you have your magic hay bale and orange triangle.
Not going to cost 20k to go to texas, about 5k (max if you drive like you stole it) in fuel there and back and 1k in permits each way. Being OD in only one dimension is also cheaper, most permits will be like $35-$70 US, Maryland is always my most expensive permits at $140 for single trip when I'm over width and height. Biggest thing to do when ordering your permits is have your axle spacing measurements ready, from each axles to the next all the way down (steer's to front diff, front diff to rear diff, rear diff to front trailer axle etc). you'll need the years, and vin numbers of truck and trailer, DOT number if you have one etc. Having all of that ready to go will speed things up, thne have your route planned as well, usually they'll give you your planned route unless there's width/ height problems. At 10ft wide your not that wide so you'll be allowed on interstates all the way, but not toll roads.
over here in Switzerland you can legally tow pretty much anything for "farm use" with a tractor, the catch is, you can't exceed speeds of 25 km/h. BUT you can have multiple sketchy trailers. One of the local guys sells his Bales in a nearby town, loads 2 trailers in the field, leaves it for the night and starts off driving at 4:30am to reach the town before the work traffic happens so he doesn't piss off hundreds of people going over a hill at maybe 15km/h because that's all it ll do uphill. anything that isn't "Farm use" is very heavily regulated here
You may run into issues getting permits in some of the states down here if you intend on throwing a truck on the back of the lowboy. Having two vehicles on the trailer creates a divisible load and most states will not permit overweight divisible loads
If you enter the United States I think you would need an overweight permit as well. 80K is the limit without one. You said the trailer is 20K and the tank is 50K. I'm pretty sure the tractor is more than 10K
I think you can only get an overweight permit for the tank alone. Having both the bronco and the tank would be considered a divisible load. But I could be wrong.
I need to move a “bale of hay”across state lines, but I will probably have to get my trailer legal first because I might have to go through a port of entry. Great idea though.
Hey, that's incredible. I should watch you more often. You have great content with that TH-cam channel. Yes, keep it legal. It certainly is a loophole you went around. Slow-moving agricultural equipment. Yes, it certainly is incredible.
With that short neck, that may make deck height high. It looks like a light duty Roger's trailer copy, no arch in deck either, so it's generally gonna have to ride high so u aren't dragging it over every little uneven road. I've seen guys rip the gooseneck off dragging bottom of trailer with load
Farm rules are typically special! Used to haul triple live axle hay wagons with a pickup, snaking its way down the road. SMV sign and that's about all!
In the UK we have a similar "grey area". We can legally drive any vehicle to a Pre-booked MOT (government test) as long as it's not dangerously falling apart, we can also drive it home again even if it fails, AND take it to a mechanic to be fixed, AND home again before taking it to another Pre-booked test. All completely legal. Nowhere does the law have a limit on the distance.......I know someone who Pre-booked his MOT into a garage 100 miles away, got stopped by the cops on the way for no MOT certificate or Road Tax (which you can't get without an MOT certificate) but they couldn't charge him with anything as it was legal ! He had just finished a 5 year rebuild so the car was in really good condition. You do have to have the vehicle insured though.
First time watching looks good When you started heading down the road I seen the condition of the road and was this has to be Ontario I was right lol Good job farm legal👍🏼👍🏼
To get altitude on the trailer deck you can always shim up the neck we use transport services out of Des Moines Iowa forget our permits and escorts for our really big stuff
As soon as I saw the hay bale, Kevin's name popped into my head. I don't know why.😅 But, I have to hand it to a farmer's ingenious solutions. I live in a rural area and my neighbour has helped me many times.
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"Farm Use"... As a 14 year old, during the summer of 1975, I drove my uncles 1958 IH two axle truck, with a dual axle flat bed trailer five miles back and forth between his barn and his hay field. My uncle loaded hay bales onto the trailer with his tractor and I drove the truck and trailer back to the barn and my cousin unloaded the hay bales into the barn. We did this for two weeks. Of course, the truck had no brakes and you had to remove the plywood covering the windshield on the passenger side before you moved the truck. Yup, farm use.
You gotta do what you gotta do.
*Sherman tank is worth $225K if whole in that exact condition. Fab a new deck and put a turret on it (I know where one is) and you've got a $525K machine.*
As long as you don’t make a big mess on the road, generally good to go
I dunno what the rules are today,but in the 60’s in England a 15 year old with a farm/tractor licence could drive on the road 3 miles between fields/farms. So if you had a string of fields…. legal driving age on 4 wheels being 17 at the time, probably still is.
@@CrimeVid Where I am within150miles of the farthest field, the farm exception removes all restrictions from a driver's license. So 15 year old me was driving an 86,000lb load down the highway, of course I'd been doing that for a few years already.
I’ve rescued a Peterbilt out of that same parking lot. Someone dumped a bunch of money into it and couldn’t pay for it. Chris is a great guy
We still bought it off the owner. They are a good enough customer to let them store the trailer for 4 years lol
I am a semi-retired cop. Legal or not, I wouldn't have given you a ticket simply because I am impressed with your creativity.
Yeah I've seen and heard of some ingenious people getting pulled over be given warning like "we both know this ain't gonna fly, but A+ for effort, I know you're just going from A to B, I'm in a good mood, go straight home and don't let me see this again"
I take it you weren't a bored state patrolman tasked specifically with shaking down commercial drivers.
@@Knightrem Bro, even I get nervous when a trooper gets behind me.
it's a hard judgement call, but empty trailer and clear signs of being hauled for repair and made legal or one way to be scraped? yeah, no issues there, so long s the "tow rig is legal"
it would be equivalent of ticketing a tow truck driver for not hauling everything wrecked or broken down on a flat bed. that's the best example I can think of
Q: How do farmers get away with doing stuff like this?
A: You like food, don't you?
*you like cheap food
The right answer !
It's amazing they drive the truck and trailer fully loaded and have no idea about pretrip or what low air means or when it's gonna lock up, it's crazy some of the farm videos on TH-cam with girls driving farm trucks that have no clue how to even do a in cab pretrip
@@kwmiked ya because they drive tractors all the time and y put a female into it anyone can screw up plus when farmers do drive those big trucks is usually harvest
Put that thing on a TRAIN and ship it. What's the problem?
Gotta love triangle license plate. I would say legal because it can be used on the farm. As a retired heavy hauler I would suggest rough cut oak from a sawmill for the floor. She's a beaut Clark.
Make sure it is white oak and not red oak. White oak will almost last forever, but red oak will not.
@@TigerUNC52 yup you are right. I should have said that.
Black locust will also last forever. I just redecked a trailer with red oak. Brought a log to my buddies sawmill and sliced it up. That was last year, been meaning to spray it with used motor oil/diesel mix top & bottom. My usual way to preserve wood/equipment/trucks. It soaks in and isn't slippery in a couple days, and things do not rust or rot. White oak can split/check apart. Its why furniture isn't made from white oak, so ive been told by sawmill guy and an arborist.
Excited to see the transformation! Now, I just want to add something.. as a trucker here in the United States, my thing is hauling oversized/overweight loads.. I have a big Peterbilt and a Fontaine tri-axle lowboy. My tare weight is 44,500lbs. Now, I am not that familiar with Ontario, but down here if I am hauling a piece of equipment and my gross weight exceeds 80,000lbs, I am not allowed to have more than one thing on the trailer at a time. That creates a divisible load and that is illegal in most jurisdictions. So, let's say your tare weight is similar to mine, add the tank at 50k, you're sitting at 95,000lbs gross. That makes you not only overwidth but overweight as well. And that would mean you cannot haul your Bronco on the back of the trailer. 2 separate pieces, overweight load, that means you're divisible. Again, I am not that familiar with Ontario, but here in the states, that is a BIG no-no. Even something as simple as a spare tire, a set of forks to go with a loader, tracks for a machine that are loosely on your deck, that all makes you divisible and will get you parked and out of serviced by the police.
Thank you very much for that Info. That seems to be the consensus. I guess the cameraman is following in the Bronco
Get the camera man and the Bronco certified as an escort vehicle. Then if you need a civilian escort vehicle, you will be money ahead. Take care.
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I learned something today. Thats the best thing about TH-cam comments, you learn stuff you don't even know you're missing. Thx.
@@DGHD I was gonna suggest that as it may turn out to be a good idea. Him following or leading you could make for some killer shots on camera! And if you ever do haul something wide or long that needs to be escorted, I second Carl's idea about getting him to become a certified escort. Hiring one is ridiculously expensive! Let me know if you have any questions, as this topic can get somewhat difficult. I'll do my best to help. I also hope one day to see this beautiful KW in person! 😍
Looks like "doing farmer stuff" means the same thing in Canada as it does here in Australia. Love it!
I don't know if you've priced chains and binders recently, but those being in the box is almost better than having cash!
Chains are $80 and binders are $50 Just spent $620 + taxes for a set for a loader.
If I counted correctly, I figured there was about $800 worth of strap, chains and binders in the box, add in the cost of the box, over $1100@@MrGWN7
They always said, its the running costs of owning a tank, not the purchase that gets ya xD
We have one of these at work. Honestly, it's not a bad piece of equipment if ya know how to fix the problems. I had to personally do it after someone recked the locking dogs on ours, but after that, I think they are "for the price" a pretty reliable trailer. If ya have any questions about stuff and sizes, don't be afraid to ask. And good lock on finding some of the components for the breaks, we had a bitch of a time when we rebuilt ours.
Seems legit to me Rich, here in Western Australia we have a whole different set of rules for "towed agricultural equipment"
Yes former WA Australian resident here moved to FNQ Queensland 5years ago and my Boi does WA have some ridiculous laws/rules compared to Qld
@@michaelgolding1568 yep, there's a few odd ones, but at least here in transport we're not under the jurisdiction of the NHVR
It's pretty much a free for all in WA as long as you have flags and a pilot
I personally hate wood on any trailer so whenever I have to replace the deck on a trailer I replace the wood with rumber.
@@michaelgolding1568 West Aus still has chain of responsibility for farmers though.
I’m impressed with backing that unit up with a dolley
Thanks!
Came here to say this. Might as well drive a transfer dump truck on the side with those backing skills
He lurnt that on the Farm.
@@dash456789 A truck & dog. Transfer dump is a pointless bit of equipment
"The largest offroad recovery vehicle" seems like a callout to matts offroad recovery.
Nice trailer. The real question is, where did you find a $2.00 bale of hay?
Best regards from Indiana, USA.
Hey, I’m from Indiana also. Glad to see another local viewer!
I think technically it is a straw bale, so next to no nutritional value and good for bedding only. They typically go for half price compared to hay.
Indiana here, too. I don't remember what a bale of straw costs. I can get them from Menard's for a few bucks, but I know that where I am I can get them for free after one of our fall festivals.
You're going to need weight permits in the US, too, if the trailer weighs 20K, and the tank weighs 50K, plus whatever the cab over weighs. In most of the US, the highway weight limit is 80K. Some states have bridge laws that allow for more weight without permiting, but you're going to need more axles.
Impressive backing skillz w/jeep/dollies!
It’s no Rogers but it’ll do nicely for what you guys are doing. The pony motor setups are nice because you can hook up to any class 8 tractor and take it down the road, no 2 line wet kit required.
A buddy of mine used his JCB Fast tractor and a 8940 Case tractor to move his excavator and the crusher around to different jobs. Never had a issue with mto or police. It was his way of getting around the safety inspection each year on the trailer after his old semi truck died.
Might run into some trouble of your try and haul the tank and the bronco at the same time on the same trailer. At least here in the states most "oversize" loads must be non-divisable (not able to be reduced) that normally means only one peice of equipment at a time
Nah, they haul combines and tractors all the time.
The non-divisible part only applies to the oversize piece itself. You can have an oversize item and a non oversize item on the same trailer, or multiple oversize items that have been reduced to their smallest dimension. You cannot however have multiple items that would normally be legal dimension loaded in a way that exceeds legal dimensions, or have an oversize item with an easily removable attachment that increases its dimensions attached.
The oversize would be for the tank height/width, the bronco would be along for the ride as long as the weights are correct. Say if the tracks were removable or the cab/bed was removable, then yeah it would be considered as divisible.
The non divisible issue pertains to weight. Not dimensions. You can have as many over dimensional pieces as you want as long as you’re not over 80k. This is for the states.
This is so entertaining.........and all the other projects. 55 Apache is a blast.
Thank you very much. Heading back to Vegas to drive the 55 to Texas tomorrow. The $10 will help!
Get a quote on complete axle "drum to drum". Would usually work out cheaper then replacing all components individually attached/missing! Just cut off & re-weld your mounting/locating hardware from your old one.
A little google search looks like it would be about $200 per wheel just for the parts, and I'm sure he could do the labor himself. I haven't priced an axle but I don't think you could get a loaded axle for $400.
Awesome video as all time
Here in Sweden it used to be common for farmers to use old derelict trailers to haul hay, or build their own from truck frames, all completly legal.
I love richs ability to adapt and overcome issues he runs into when most people would just give up and go get the hoses
I’m glad lawmakers were at least smart enough to not screw the guys that feed us.
I almost can’t believe it.
Oh I'm sure they still do, just not so much in this way. Just look wlat what they're doing to the farmers in Denmark etc
Here in the UK as long as the brakes sort of work you are legal towing such things with an agricultural tractor, you don't need to have anything on the trailer as you could be collecting something or coming back from delivery. One farmer near me uses such a trailer to move a 360 excavator around, which is used for ditch maintenance etc.
Rich for ontario atleast you can get a blanket oversized permit that covers everwhere in ontario so you dont need permits everytime you go out its an annual permit
At my old job, we had a ground bearing lb like that, we stuck like a 2 or 2.5" steel block under those legs and it gave the trailer a much high righ hight in the front. Just food for thought
A real float man has 4 different sized blocks .
Sometimes you just have to be dangerously close to ground for a high load.
In my case for off road logging ,I jack it up to make it over humpbacks and mud holes.
A different float than this thou, a Parron 70000 .
I just picked up a derelict 45’ spread axle flat bed. I didn’t film it because we took all the back roads home. I’ll be doing the rehab on my channel as well. Good luck Rich! Love both your channels!
I don’t know about Canadia, but in the states you can’t load a second item on an overweight load. It would then become a reducible load and void your permits.
Here's a trick for the rust pits on chrome piston rods or motorcycle forks. Emery the pits, clean the rust off the bare steel then build up with some super glue and clean up with fine wet and dry.
Could have used the electric start on the trailers engine to turn the hydraulics enough to do what you needed to do. I’ve had to do that exact thing on my hydro boat trailer before in the middle of a haul and the motor crapped out.
Rich those new rims look like durabrights, they have a coating on them to prevent corrosion. You may not have to sandblast them, just wash them and they look nice and new
Several years ago I bought a New Idea pull type corn picker from a dealer in Canada. He arranged trucking to Alabama at a good deal stating that "Farm Equipment gets special rules when it comes to wide loads".
Great Find. Can't wait until you get the old gal fixed up. Good Luck with your new project. 👍 🇺🇸
Im excited to watch all this. I was pumped when i first saw your tank while trucking. Your killing this man!
This whole episode reminds me of my farmer neighbor came home with a grain truck with air brakes... I heard the parking brake go on and I asked him if he had an air brake endorsement on his license... He told me I'm a farmer, What do I need that for.
i'm so glad this channel is a part of my life, 100% entertainment from start to end, time flies when i watch richs stuff
I don't know about your haybale theory, sir.
MAYBE if the FMCSA stopped you, you could talk them into it.
But if you had a wreck, if that trailer is not mechanically sound, it could cost you everything.
Oh, you are going to PULL it with the farm tractor? Genius.
I agree with your "Grey area" theory - I don't know from the Great White North, but I don't think a cop in the states would have ticketed you.
I love it - it's just the right trailer for moving the Sherminator.
I look forward to seeing the old tank chassis at a show someday.
that box filled with ratchet straps is almost better than cash.
I can't wait to see the Sherminator going down a highway near me!
Of course, I'll look close to see if you have the right amount of chains on it!
At 21:30 - that's a nice looking old Ford (Is that called an L9000?)
I really enjoy your content, sir. good work.
This is by far my favorite video. Farm use only!
In our state if you have a farm plate you can basically do anything no questions asked as long as you have the right category
Immediately got where you were going with this once I saw the hay bale in the back of your truck 🤣
Sometimes you just gotta play the system, end of the day the trailer needs to be moved.
Those mint chains too though 😍
A dealer plate is gold as well, as long as a qualified mechanic drives it….
Looking forward to this build, it will be perfect when you are done with it as all your projects are. Love the hay bale by the way.
Could have had a EWE and maybe a RAM (Dodge ram that is) also on the trailer as an animal load
(or maybe could have had the ewe on the back of the ram, on the low-boy ? .. Funny that as Rams are normally on the back of the Ewe's)
Hey Rich im excited another Rusty rebuild we need to get into it all the shiny cars are nice but i love trucks tractors and now trailers ,im 66yrs old retired truck driver and love all the utube will it start content ,but ive been watching your channel for a few years now and i love how your not shy to get greasy ,thats the world im from thanks mate
Kym
Adelaide
I love it. Fix old stuff and make it better then ever before.
For the times you will get the trailer bottomed out, and you will, I recommend that you carry a pair of blocks , steel or good hard wood to block under the stiff legs to allow you to raise the lift cylinder foot up and have the frame higher.
The only thing "more legal" would have been having a 12 yr old kid drive it down the road for you!!! I love the randomness of the Ontario highway laws!
Worse than getting stuck on train tracks with a low boy .. are the guys that power through the tracks witha low boy and "relocate" one of the rails!!!
Looks like a fun project!
Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦
TWO DOLLAR HAY?! Frickin 10 bucks where I am right now
Those trailers are a dime-a-dozen for sale along the Gulf Coast, seem several of them over the last several months. They have been going for pretty cheap too.
Witzco's are cheap but they're not a bad trailer for the money, the biggest problem is the ground bearing neck. As far as putting those axles together when I was looking at doing a complete axle rebuild I just opted for new complete axles that came with everything. 4 years ago they were $1200 each now they're $1850 each.
I was thinking the same too. Looks like they even removed all the spiders as well.
With the tubes,cams and slacks new axles might be the best yup.
@@FondelMikeRotch it really is the easiest and I figured the cost is actually cheaper to go new and it saves you a ton of labor and if you replace the brake drums,bearings and races it's a lot cheaper just to go new.
Its a good thing you had all those binders and chain. After all the Hey bale needs to be very secure.
We have that same trailer just 12ft wide for our combine and sprayer, our seals are going on the lift cylinders so we just chain them up always lol I think ours is an 05 just as rusty here in Minnesota
It will be cool to see the trailer get fixed up. I'm sure you will use it to haul home some other derelict equipment too.
Great way to work around the problem, first time with a hay bale.
Excited for this build. Lots of trailer knowledge incoming.
You might be the first truck driver ever to think about railroad crossings before hitching up, great to hear it. The car or truck always loses in a crossing accident but the train doesn't win, hitting a large vehicle has the potential to cause a derailment and injure or kill the train crew as well.
I'm from Pennsylvania, mostly Amish around here. Pretty much anything goes under "farm use." I've seen ALOT more sketchy stuff from the mushroom houses, too.
Love the straw burial very good idea❤️👀👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
My ears perked up when I heard Texas. Im in Houston but would drive anywhere in Texas to see y’all and the tank.
I definitely see bypass hydraulic fittings coming in it's future in addition to the pony motor
Great project, l can see it gleaming already 👍🏻.
Thanks for sharing 👍🏻.
✌🏻🤘😉 🇨🇦.
I don't know about in Canada, but I believe in the US you can not have have two separate vehicles/cargo (divisible load) on one trailer when overweight permits are involved meaning the Bronco and Sherman may be a no go, at least here.
Brilliant camera man 🎥❤👀👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I knew what you were going to do the instant I saw that bale of hay! Not unlike what we have done similar numerous times.😁
Sounds like a great plan can't wait
We have the same WIZCO RGN, but it's a single lift cylinder & tandem,standar width with the flip out outriggers.
Can’t wait to see the progress.
Yeah I figured those cylinder's were fine. I use to build them, I've never seen a hydraulic cylinder's seize up! that's basically unheard of. You could always buy used ones or build your own if you absolutely had too.
You've even got a low tire on the tractor. Awesome.
If you end up going to Texas or Florida is there any chance you’ll take 81 or I-90 through New York? You basically have to go 1 of two ways coming from canada with a semi, would love to be able to post up somewhere and take some pictures of you driving by. We own a farm here in the Syracuse area and I love the show/posts/videos/content you create Rich. Watched you for a few years now love the DGHD channel
Tip for next time if you need to tow stuff with a farm tractor get a jcb fastrac it goes 80km/h and if u get the military one it goes even faster.
We do the same "farmer trick" here in Norway and it works all the time (and we probably have way more bureaucrats than Canada).
I'm excited to see this project progress! I'm guessing that you'll be able to scrap the pony hydraulics and be able to use the K100 wet kit to operate the trailer. That would be pretty nice. Great video!
We went to the trouble to put in the wetline, might as well use it.
@@DGHD I'd still keep the pony motor though, just plumb in a valve so you can use either. That's how our Aspen is set up and the even though our main lowboy trucks have PTOs the pony motor has still come in handy a few times. I'd also look at adding some chain baskets in the deck when you have the whole thing apart. It's way more convenient to have the chains close to where you use them vs up in the neck.
@@averyw.3939 Always good to have a backup. Like when I ripped off the wet lines at the railroad tracks hauling a paver at 4:00 am. I drove 2 city blocks before I realized the disconnect .
Growing up in BC--where even a forklift that only ever makes a trip across the road needs a license plate--Ontario's "slap an orange triangle and a hay bale on 'er" laws were a pleasant surprise. You can move some weird things down a road, just make sure you have your magic hay bale and orange triangle.
9:50 Those brand new chains and binders are worth the purchase alone :) 12 new tires will be a big bill but cheap lowboys are hard to come by...
Not going to cost 20k to go to texas, about 5k (max if you drive like you stole it) in fuel there and back and 1k in permits each way. Being OD in only one dimension is also cheaper, most permits will be like $35-$70 US, Maryland is always my most expensive permits at $140 for single trip when I'm over width and height.
Biggest thing to do when ordering your permits is have your axle spacing measurements ready, from each axles to the next all the way down (steer's to front diff, front diff to rear diff, rear diff to front trailer axle etc). you'll need the years, and vin numbers of truck and trailer, DOT number if you have one etc. Having all of that ready to go will speed things up, thne have your route planned as well, usually they'll give you your planned route unless there's width/ height problems. At 10ft wide your not that wide so you'll be allowed on interstates all the way, but not toll roads.
over here in Switzerland you can legally tow pretty much anything for "farm use" with a tractor, the catch is, you can't exceed speeds of 25 km/h. BUT you can have multiple sketchy trailers. One of the local guys sells his Bales in a nearby town, loads 2 trailers in the field, leaves it for the night and starts off driving at 4:30am to reach the town before the work traffic happens so he doesn't piss off hundreds of people going over a hill at maybe 15km/h because that's all it ll do uphill.
anything that isn't "Farm use" is very heavily regulated here
You may run into issues getting permits in some of the states down here if you intend on throwing a truck on the back of the lowboy. Having two vehicles on the trailer creates a divisible load and most states will not permit overweight divisible loads
In the US, being over weight multiple pieces will have to ship separately
If you enter the United States I think you would need an overweight permit as well. 80K is the limit without one. You said the trailer is 20K and the tank is 50K. I'm pretty sure the tractor is more than 10K
I think you can only get an overweight permit for the tank alone. Having both the bronco and the tank would be considered a divisible load. But I could be wrong.
@@benbe71 divisible is only for the over size load itself
Problem with the plan to put the bronco on the back, that makes it a divisible load and no longer able to be permitted in many areas in the US.
Like, the cleaning up of the hydraulic ground bearing shafts, while extended .
here in uk with a car license you can tow a max 3.5t trailer but if you drive a tractor you can pull 40t and you don't even need number plates
I need to move a “bale of hay”across state lines, but I will probably have to get my trailer legal first because I might have to go through a port of entry. Great idea though.
Hey, that's incredible. I should watch you more often. You have great content with that TH-cam channel. Yes, keep it legal. It certainly is a loophole you went around. Slow-moving agricultural equipment. Yes, it certainly is incredible.
Really enjoyed watching Rich can't wait to see more of your Lowboy 😀
With that short neck, that may make deck height high. It looks like a light duty Roger's trailer copy, no arch in deck either, so it's generally gonna have to ride high so u aren't dragging it over every little uneven road. I've seen guys rip the gooseneck off dragging bottom of trailer with load
Your slow moving vehicle sign was not properly displayed😁, must at least 2ft off the ground.🤣🍻
Farm rules are typically special! Used to haul triple live axle hay wagons with a pickup, snaking its way down the road. SMV sign and that's about all!
Ahhhh, the hay bale trick. Good call hahah
In the UK we have a similar "grey area". We can legally drive any vehicle to a Pre-booked MOT (government test) as long as it's not dangerously falling apart, we can also drive it home again even if it fails, AND take it to a mechanic to be fixed, AND home again before taking it to another Pre-booked test. All completely legal. Nowhere does the law have a limit on the distance.......I know someone who Pre-booked his MOT into a garage 100 miles away, got stopped by the cops on the way for no MOT certificate or Road Tax (which you can't get without an MOT certificate) but they couldn't charge him with anything as it was legal ! He had just finished a 5 year rebuild so the car was in really good condition. You do have to have the vehicle insured though.
I noticed one of the road signs , didn’t realize you were in my area. Im from Caledonia
Get that engine rebuilt and clean those rams as you mentioned. Love these videos..
First time watching looks good
When you started heading down the road I seen the condition of the road and was this has to be Ontario
I was right lol
Good job farm legal👍🏼👍🏼
To get altitude on the trailer deck you can always shim up the neck we use transport services out of Des Moines Iowa forget our permits and escorts for our really big stuff
That bale of hay...the ultimate "move this clapped out trailer" legally card!
As soon as I saw the hay bale, Kevin's name popped into my head. I don't know why.😅 But, I have to hand it to a farmer's ingenious solutions. I live in a rural area and my neighbour has helped me many times.
Great job backing up the trailer and dolly!!
New chrome rods and seals on that trailer lift, you know i'm right. Cheers
Can't wait to see the outcome