NEW AUDI RS3 - REAL WORLD FUN OR HYPED UP HOT ROD??
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In this, the second of 2 videos on the new Audi RS 3, I take a closer look at the car's complex dynamics to work out if it's just a drifting journo pleaser or a car that the average driver can enjoy responsibly on the public road.
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While ur debating, I ordered one, it arrived early and am enjoying what is a phenomenal all-weather car. Carve through traffic like a hot knife through butter. Just my opinion. I haven’t been disappointed for what I got it for :)
I'm happy for you, please don't crash it, and look after it. Even if you sell it 10 years from now, I'm sure the next buyer of the car will love it, and cherish it.
How early was early, I ordered mine in October and Ive been told a year
The comments about the "handedness" of the rotors have absolutely no basis in reality and show a fundamental lack of understanding about rotor design. The only time directionality of the rotors matters is if there are curved cooling vanes, as the direction of rotation does impact how air flows through them. For cross-drill holes or slots, the direction does not matter at all. Holes are intended to allow for gas and particles between the pad and rotor to escape that theoretically could reduce braking performance. It doesn't matter what the pattern of the holes (or direction of the pattern overall) looks like at all. The efficacy of those rotors is questionable anyway, as it is only put on cars like this for aesthetics, not performance. A solid rotor would work just as well for a car like this. Anyway, no one's ever warped a rotor because of the direction of the cross-drilling pattern direction, they warp them because the rotor simply wasn't up to snuff for the load being put on them.
Thanks for that, I was having trouble getting to sleep until I read your commentsssssssssssssssss
And with that, I think we've covered the RS3 quite thoroughly. Thank you. 👍
Finally had time to watch this video, another excellent in depth production, loved the two presenter style too! Cheers for the mentions as always 👌🏼
Absolutely loving your channel Andrew. Top quality and I really think your going to double your subs this year. 🤙👌 I also think it should be a double act car review every now & again, the two of yee are very entertaining 😄👍
The drilled discs and there positions don’t have any effect on cooling , it’s the veins inside the discs that aid cooling .
The reason I mentioned the holes was that they are drilled in the direction of the veins.
Terrible cost cutting measures by what is a very expensive car :(
I had a late 2017 RS3 and the car is all about the engine. Point to point on an a or B road you’d be hard pressed to find many cars faster. I will say that all the packs Audi have put on this are a waste of money. The ‘standard’ audio you get in the RS3 is superb, the interior is excellent and you get loads on it as standard. The extra touches like black packs etc are a waste of money. The engine is the whole point to the car though. Day to day it’s very comfortable too and IMO the standard suspension is tuned brilliantly and gives you one less thing to faff around with. I essentially had mine in either comfort or individual (engine Dynamic, Exhaust dynamic, Quattro dynamic, suspension comfort, steering comfort) as well 90% of the time.
Good review. I’d say you’ve not even touched the boundaries of speed through corners but at least you are sensible enough to go steady cornering because the speed these things go can get you in trouble.
Well if it has black bits here and there, now I really want one.😂
Your production value has been raised again with this one. The seamless cut away to the old school Rally Car was very well done 👍
Thanks Simon, glad you liked that, it was pretty easy in all honesty once I’d found a sepia effect 👍
Very informative video 👍. I get mine in a couple weeks fingers crossed 🤞. With the driving modes,, can you use the paddle shifts in all modes or are they just for use in RS performance and RS Individual modes?
Paddles are live all the time but will stay manual for longer in the sportier modes (usually they switch back to auto after 20 secs or so but with the new shifter this has been changed). To switch back to auto, just hold right paddle for a second or so.
Interior just not up to scratch for a car of this price. Had a good look at the S3 and RS3 before settling on an m340i - very pleased with my choice and not sure the rs3 will give much more useable performance on the road or be as comfortable a long distance cruiser
Agreed. Currently drive a an F30 340i and deciding if the next upgrade is a G20 or this RS3. Want that glorious 5cyl, but the M340i is a tall order to topple.
Interior is absolutely fine, better than my AMG A45s that's for sure and I have 718 Cayman GTS and I don't feel like I am getting into something low rent when I drive my Audi. So, what did you expect, Audi to put the interior of an A6 in there? Had my new RS3 for a few weeks now, very impressed - comfortable on long drives, super fast when you want it to be and the traction is amazing - it's practical, even economical (had 37mpg from mine) and looks, fricking awesome in tango red with the carbon trim... for the money there's nothing that can touch it. Everywhere I go with it, people's head are turning!
@@mauricetoussaint7283 thanks for that view.
i was planning on trading in my golf r for this model rs3. with the looks and performance for price i was sold. but everyone is on about the interior, i do understand where its coming from.
apart from some plastic thats scratch prone i think it looks far better than the 8v rs3.
I was also tossing between tango red and black 😂
I agree but the BMW 3 ist a higher class car (it compares with the A4/S4/RS4). The RS 3 compares to nothing from BMW because BMW don't offer a 4-door sporty car in this class.
M240i or the upcoming M2 are coupes, the competitor for the S3 ist the M135i xDrive.
A new M1 would be the perfect competitor but BMW don't got plans to build this car 😄
Love the colour thought it sounded decent in subdued 👍
Indeed, subdued clearly meant inside the cabin because outside the way the noise kept coming when the was quite a distance a way was impressive for a modern car. I love the colour but couldn't live with it but them I'm old and you may not be so enjoy it while you can :)
Ageism means the term is older or mature Andrew lol but yellow cars are the best and safer - I owned the same ‘87 Subaru Sherpa (Rex) as a student twice with 665 2 cylinder power in bright yellow and if I could find one now I’d still drive it - fully independent suspension gas shocks and 2 seats so avoided sales tax as a commercial vehicle in Oz so zero safety but throttle response was electric 0-30 hence the perfect city car
Hmm dunno about that color but I love the look of the green.
Great video as always Andrew, one of my dream cars this due to this iconic engine, would worry about leaving it though. As I don’t have £60k to dump on one it’s not an issue, I’ll be keeping my Polo GTi+ for a while as it ticks all the boxes, maybe a CS like yours would tempt me away at some point. The price of new cars are stupid at the moment. I paid £21900 in 1/20 for my Polo, same spec now is £26400😳
Had Polo GTI prior to my now MK8 R, obviously the R is a completely different league, but I really do miss the Polo GTI, was one of my favourite cars ever.
My mustang GT has four settings for the exhaust quiet. Normal. Sport.and track
Congrats on the Best in depth review of the rs3 on utube, i love your channel as you always go the extra mile the others don't. No dress up pack option is a joke by audi uk, it would have elevated the interior from yawn to lust. Must say though personally i'll stick with my fully specked Golf r 7.5 for me it's the perfect car for uk daily driving.
Really appreciate your comments regarding the quality of the review especially when I didn't get an invite to the UK press launch in favour of people who don't actually review cars, they just say everything is "fantastic". I'd stick with the Golf too :)
You heard of the channel evil gt? They own one and took it on track recently
Still not sure how I feel about the color. Great car though!
Prefer the green!
Best car in his class, record at the Nordschleife. Faster than the BMW M2 CS. And the last one with the iconic 5 cylinder! Great review.
Thanks Stefan, so more ultimate than the ultimate driving machine! I guess BMW fans will say AWD is cheating but then again it adds weight so isn't all win win.
@@volkswizard Hahaha, both are top cars.Typical BMW fans with their ultimate driving car blablabla. The M2 CS have 50PS and 50 Nm more.AWD cheating yeahhhh like Trans am with 200 Quattro, imsa 90 Foto and german Tourenwagen Meisterschaft with the V8. Fact is Audi Sport made a job. PS. your channel is great!
Great video, also enjoyed "the living with" video as well. Would be great to get at update from Simon about life with new Golf R, they are about to go on sale in the US.
Was debating the RS3 vs M3 xdrive. Went with the bmw, but the RS3 is certainly a contender for less money.
M340i not in the running?
@@volkswizard Not interested in anything but the full M cars. Plan on using the M3 as my dd and buying a GT3 when the market settles down for the weekends.
You made the correct choice 👌
You definitely made the right choice I’ve owned the new M4 (rear drive ) and I’ve test driven the RS3. The RS3 was very boring and underwhelming, interior bland and cheap looking - it didn’t put a smile on my face !
@@DoctorSpeedy1050 Totally agree, BMW are slapping silly M lite badges on just about everything and people are trying (and failing spectacularly) to compare them with the full fat real deal variants. I've had true M cars for past 6 years and like lots of other owners had a good laugh hearing lots of 335i owners thinking their cars match/exceed the E46/E9x/F80,etc just by sticking a remap on it. Now moved on to quattro S cars which are faster off the mark (than the non X-drive M cars) but the RWD i6 M cars will always be the absolute best as the total driving package. No doubt I'll be back behind the wheel of one at some point after I stop kidding myself that I've grown up by buying an audi lol
Great video thanks, can’t wait to pick mine up in March 😁
Hope you enjoy it DGC, lucky lucky!
Interior looks like my a3
Great conclusion as it’s fast and fun and possibly last of its kind - stiff competition from Merc A45S but I’d take the RS3 every time despite steep sticker price
Yes indeed, that engine and noise trounce the Merc even with its hand built 4 pot engine.
Great vid as usual, do you have any plans to test out the Cupra Born as I'd love to hear your honest opinion.
Good stuff Andrew and Simon 👍👏
The colour goes with the yellow disabled parking logo…
About the only thing
@@volkswizard or some fluro trouser clips to stop you getting mud on your flares ?
Great video, great car - although one I won't ever own. Economy-wise, it's deeply impressive to get that sort of mpg (not why people would buy one, but it makes owning one as a daily runner a bit more realistic) - it's actually more economical than my old Honda Accord (with 147 hp)! It probably is pretty close to a Mk7/7.5 R for economy too (although I've had my R Estate up to 44.7 mpg at one point, on a run from Wokingham to York - 43.3 for the whole trip to Inverness). On 17" wheels & narrow winter tyres though.
I do agree that Audi really need to sort out the spec of that car - it's inexplicable why some of the options available elsewhere aren't available here.
B roads
RS3 or Focus RS ?
Focus rs
Good effort as usual Andrew. Synthetic sounds plus an extras list that never ends?
Guess I'm in a minority who think that 60K + should cover what a performance vehicle would have as standard?
Thanks Tony. There are a lot of extras but very few interior trim options sadly which would help justify the price. It's a very multi-talented car so you could say £60k isn't too out the way. Only option you need is sports exhaust and adaptive suspension, possible to get a decent car for £55k but still a fair chunk of cash
black grille looks terrible, black hole like half of the car is missing
I had an rs3 very nice car . then I drove a 2012 series 1m nothing else even counts anymore.
M2 CS is an exceptional car but pricey, and rare!!
We germans don't like this upside down "runway-speedometer" too but audi thought everyone will like it 😅
How can you make a car review for an RS Audi, seem so boring, plus I had to turn the volume up to a crazy level just to hear what you droned on about. I really like your channel, however you need to add a bit more pizzazz to your videos!
You can't please all the people all the time. The big issue is trying to demonstrate it on a UK road without getting into trouble, pizzazz is somewhat hobbled by that. Other people have made more exciting videos but the aim was reflect the car's appeal to normal drivers driving on normal roads in a semi-scientific way. If you want to watch skids and drifts, can't help there, sorry
@@volkswizard I don’t want skids & donuts, I just want more pizzazz from you, not the car. I absolutely get what you’re doing and why, just more exciting in how you act & chat. Like I said, I really enjoy your channel it’s why I am a subscriber to it, I just want a little more hhmmpphh
Agreed, found this to be a rather boring video for such an exciting car.
Also, reading the hand book on camera, seriously? How is that entertaining for the viewers?
Hi Andrew it seems that the only thing letting the RS3 down are those Bridgestone tyres, otherwise it's a great package, a little pricey but compared to the M3 xdrive it's a bit of a bargain.
Guys, would the Carbon version be the right one then ? why go for the Vorsprung
Audi UK have priced the 3 trim levels (base, carbon, vorsprung) to appeal to different people. If the Vorsprung extras are what you want then it makes senses, if not, it doesn't. I suspect carbon black will be the most popular (though I love the wheels on the base model)
@@volkswizard I would imagine most want a Vorsprung with flat bottomed wheel and carbon bits, like you can spec elsewhere. Instead your left deciding what means more, the steering wheel, the wheels, or extra bits like electric seats, sunroof etc, total mess if you ask me.
Excellent review and good to hear a second opinion 👍👍been looking at the new RS3 sportback as a potential upgrade to my Golf 7.5R, couldn't justify cost of new so maybe a decent used example in a couple of years time. . . tbh bit put off by usable performance on the road, be interested to hear your thoughts and whether or not you would stick with your GTI Clubsport 😎
Good drive 👍 and great review all around
Glad you enjoyed it N K 👍
The price is unbelievable. With a sideways 5 pot motor, NO.
However is it worth 18k more than a MK 8 R??????
Wish that was the difference over in Ireland, more like 50k extra over R.
So my answer is a definite no. If I was going that amount of extra money I'd be looking at BMW or Porsche.
Though if it was 5k-10k more than my MK8R, then yes would be my answer.
I feel the interior is basically the same as the R, which is odd considering the price difference
Start at £53k for the basic RS3 as you are comparing a basic Golf R at £40k.
RS3 gets
leather (very expensive on R)
19 inch wheels
(Effectively the £2k Performance Pack)
Bigger brakes 357mm vs 380mm
80 PS more
Standard metallic paint (Kemora grey)
THAT engine
4 rings on nose
Climate control buttons
Golf R does have a flat bottom wheel and lane assist and adaptive cruise and dynamic light assist all as standard though
No interference from Sideways Sid I recon? And dident Audi mention adding HP at some point?
This was made for Sid, if he could get the old one sideways (he could!) this one he could make dance for sure.
There's a lot of comedy in dealerships and what they call packs
I just get it why they don’t offer the dress up pack, as it looks sooo good and a half alcantara steering wheel is a must….still a gorgeous looking car though
I don't get it
1) it needs dressing up
2) it's extra cost
3)it's not LHD/RHD specific
Who is that passenger 😂
Alan Carr
I think the s3 looks better
Which brand is your phone holder from?
Great video.....again but it's no EV and you're certainly not disabled!!! So great parking 😉
All leg pulling aside, keep the videos coming......
Thanks ! We would have moved if a disabled person needed the space but we weren't going to move for an EV as the Audi Q4 etron driver must have worked out :) In all seriousness it was great of Gilks' to accommodate us at short notice.
@@volkswizard I know you would Andrew, it was just a tongue in cheek comment!!
Not really sold on it enough to upgrade my 8V, probably change my mind once I get to drive it.
I get that, depends if you are a driver that can get the most of it, or conversely, a driver that feels that the 8V could be better.
Would Simon sell his CSS for one of these?
I saw one up for sale for 73grand on Facebook !
mental
fools and their money…
Tough colour to choose!
Please learn how to operate with steeringwheel propelry my eyes are bleeding wathching you holding a steeringwheel like that.
for me best rs ever is b8.5 rs5, the sound, the looks, just a pure beauty in sepang blue ❤
Other RS models have the same adaptive cruise control yet have a flat bottom steering wheel so I don’t understand why the RS3 can’t be the same
With new A3/S3/RS3, adaptive cruise is part if a pack and that pack means you get lane assist which means a round wheel. I found online Audi this is so the systems can tell when the driver's hands are on the wheel. So the question is do other Audi's have lane assist and a flat bottom wheel? They probably do because my Golf manages it just fine.
I would love Audi to do a driving day great video.
You and me both Patrick!
No way beat the sound of a 5 cylinder.
👍👍👍👍👍
Lame review! The test driver cannot be a fraidy cat.
Would you prefer a manual?
Not me personally, paddles are quite engaging and they are made of zinc now
how abut an RS3 vs RS5 comparison
your right to be not "convinced" about bridgestone tires, i know i`m talking about 2 extremes here, but i used to have michelin all season tires fitted to my vw , and then i read reviews and all the "testers" said bridgestone all seasons were better, all i can say is Hollocks, these bridgestones are bloody awful in comparison to the michelin`s, once these are worn out, i`ll go back to michelins and stick with em, NOW, i wonder if you know anyone who could wear them out REALLY quickly damon me old mucker 😂😂😂😂
I absolut agree, the bridgestone tires on the RS 3 are really good.
Audi is using Pirelli and Bridgestone on the new RS 3 (you can't choose which you want) and both are good but the Bridgestones work a little bit better on the RS 3.
GR Yaris will leave both trailing
Audi RS3 0-62 3.8 seconds - GR Yaris 0-62 5.5 seconds. Even if the GR is better around a corner it would be that much better to make up for the straight line performance deficit.
@@volkswizard If you live on drag strips and the motorways, and wish to do silly speeds, then yes. On the rest of our bumpy damp B roaded UK the RS3 would struggle to hold station. For reference, I also run a R7.5 with Unicorn stage 2 tune - just short of 400hp. It’s totally wooden compared to the GR off of the motorways and smooth A roads. It’s the notion of being faster against the clock and on longer straights (R/RS3 etc) Vs being quicker everywhere else and ultimately from A-B (GR). Not even mentioning price delta to RS3. £70K is a lot for an engine .
My m will beat both
Not on American roads…..
@@KO-iw3vu who cares about that.
My Father enjoyed his 2018 RS3 until he sold the car in 2021. Ordered a Porsche Taycan 4S Cross Turismo to replace the RS3 in June 2021 and the car arrives this week. However, the dealership ordered the wrong specification (first time that has happened ever to him). They’re allowing him to replace his order for a Porsche Taycan GTS Sport Turismo instead meanwhile jumping the queue. Looks like he will be collecting that car with the specification that he wanted in May 2022 and in the meantime continues with his daily driver which is the TCR.
Co driver looking like "why don't you let me drive?
This is where we fall down.. we're so blind to buy cars we just except the lack of extras
from Audi.. now if everyone one knowing everyone else in Europe can get the stiching flat bottom stearing wheel etc said no and didn't rush out and buy the huge spec loss Audi would have had to give the uk the Same as the rest of Europe? if you go out and buy the sub spec car then why would'nt Audi take the piss out of you buyers????
Still far far prefer the 8V pre facelift analogue cars, hey just sound better and they were the last of their breed
Digital dashboards and multiple screens does nothing for a drivers car
it literally does. It shows so much information, and do not need to rely on old analog stuff
Do they really sound better than post facelift but pre-OPF?
Color its horrible but car its nice
That toggle shifter is just...an abomination. I also despise lane assist...boy did they ruin this car from the previous generation.
AUDI UK treat us like children with specs
12 options for interior colour on BMW M340i, 2 for RS 3.
Why arent you making a statement video about how fucking expensive cars are now? I mean, for a gti clubsport, the starting price here in belgium is now 50.000 EURO! Is VW getting nuts? I will NEVER buy a golf for that kind of money, its outrageous. What is VW thinking? Its still just a golf! Starting price for a R golf is 56.000 euro, without 19 inch, without the performance pack, without the akrapovic..... If you tick those boxes you have a golf for about 61.000 euro!!!!! a golf!!! Was volkswagen not a people's car? Which people, the rich ones?