I'm amazed at the drivers perfect sense of timing combined with his completely awe inspiring ability to miss two horns, flashing lights and a SHINY massive loco. I nominate him for the Darwin award. Unfortunately, he seemed to decline collecting it at the last moment.
Looked like a normal emergency stop to me. I ran passenger trains for years and when emergency braking was required passenger trains stop much quicker than freight trains.
It took 20 sec for the train to stop. Emergency brake application @ :35sec & full stop @ :55 sec. That's actually normal for a train that weight going that speed!
@@westerlywinds5684 along with being fired, don't you think he would have lost his license as well? After losing his license how can he be driving for other companies?
It's amazing how many people are trying to justify the truck driver in this one. "It's a quiet zone." "He couldn't see the train." Give me a break. That driver saw that train and was trying to beat it and drove stupidly when doing it. I hope that the driver's company gets an email from Amtrak and a link to this video. That kind of truck driver needs to be standing in the unemployment line.
The owner of the company this driver works... WORKED... for commented on the video. Just look for Jack Fairweather. It's safe to say that driver got shitcanned pretty hardcore for this.
J Walker: Yeah, it's a quiet zone. There're a lot of those spread throughout the country, typically in cities/towns where busy railroad tracks pass adjacent to residential suburbs. I used to work for an Advance Auto Parts and then an O'Reilly Auto Parts both on the north side of Austin and their delivery areas were both bisected by the light rail transit system. All the grade crossings have warning signs that the train doesn't use its horn, so you have to watch out.
Quiet zones do not actually prohibit a train from using its horn if the engineer feels it’s necessary. If a train crew sees an obvious compromise in safety they may use the horn as much as necessary and this does not violate quit zone requirements.
A true petrol-head At this point, it would take billions to make the American rail network compatible for Bullet trains. Simply because the majority of the corners aren’t wide enough for them to pass at speed. That and the fact that there aren’t many lines with overhead wires
I ride Amtrak several times a year (I'd much rather relax than drive on nerve-wracking freeways), and I've always felt reasonably confident about Amtrak safety. It's when I see and hear about all these near misses that I wonder. I know driving a truck requires additional judgment about weight and available space near train crossings, but so many semis seem to get in trouble due to plain impatience. A passenger train clears a level crossing in about a minute. That includes the lowering and raising of gates/barriers. Small sacrifice of one's time!
So many truck drivers today drive their 70 foot rigs the same way as their 2013 Ford Focus, rig drivers aren't what they used to be man. Can't tell you how many rigs I've seen swerving all over the road, speeding in the passing lane, and on their phones. It isn't a 3000 pound car, it's a 70,000 pound semi truck!
From that angle, the truck couldn't possibly see the train. This time, it really wasn't anyone's fault, just bad timing. Glad it was just a "fender bender." Though the truck shouldn't have "hit and run." That's a terrible thing to do, even if it was a scrape against a train. But, maybe he didn't realize there had been any contact at all.
Hungry Guy If the driver would've been paying attention, he'd have known that the train was there. Just because the train wasn't in the mirror doesn't mean that he couldn't see it. His window wasn't blocked. If I would've taken my boss's truck that close to ANY other vehicle, I'd be jobless. Besides not wanting to loose my paycheck, I kinda like the Kenworth that I drive, and don't want anything bad to happen to it.
Since the trucker could see the tracks and no doubt hear the train horn and even backed up to renegotiate the turn, he had plenty of view and warning and then heard the train mirror being clipped by his truck. Not only was it his fault, he left the accident and thus will lose his CDL, pay a huge fine, lose his job, and pay for any damage done to the train. He will be lucky if he does not do some jail time. Good riddance as we do not need that kind driving rigs on our roads.
Hungry Guy Are you suggesting the driver couldn't hear the crossing gate bells half a block south of him? Sorry, doesn't wash. That driver should lose his class one license.
I am a retired engineer with csx and amtrak, and believe it or not, i might make 1 road trip a month where a vehicle did not drive around gates in front of me or have a near miss at a crossing, that is a fact.
That truck driver is so lucky the Engineer was on the ball. Even if it were a slower speed, the truck is an aluminum can compared to an anvil with a couple of inches in the wrong direction. The fact he then runs (rolls thru) the stop sign? He doesn't look like he's in a long haul truck, thus given to sleepiness...seems to me someone needs his license reviewed with a physical or two. Excellent coverage of this event!
Nana, I think Mr Dilbert's adrenaline was pumping and he just wanted to get out of there before any authorities showed up. "The authorities" and his boss will meet with him later in the home office no doubt when he picks up his pink slip. LOL
I was going to say the same thing. That guy is a rolling liability. I'm sure they'd be interested to see that. Unless they're as dumb as him. And I've found that does tend to be the case with some businesses. Idiots of a feather...
The radio conversation with 94 and the Ashland PD was hilarious. They couldn't believe it. I'm not surprised the guy fled. I'm sure he didn't want to be drug tested, but now he's got just as big a problem! My Aunt was riding this train today too...her first time trying Amtrak after a horrid trip to New Orleans. Just awful luck!
No he is not correct, trains don't have sirens, police cars, fire trucks, ambulances all have sirens. Trains have air horns, just like semi trucks, only bigger.
At 00:26, he reverses up, and sees the train approaching, but at 00:34, he still pulls out, that's what I cannot understand And why are us railtracks NOT FENCED OFF?
They are in most places and since this particular stop goes th right thru the middle of town it doesn’t make sense as everyone would either crash into the fence or scrape up their car turning on that road
@@billdougan4022 : Agreed, but wouldn't the concrete curb and the sound of loose gravel under the truck's left, front wheel be sufficient warning for a sane driver?
I was actually watching this event live yesterday. As the truck driver is approaching he would have been looking to his left in the first place so clearly would have seen the train at that point. The driver in the red suv tooted and stopped to give way to him (why I can't explain as the red suv had right of way). Clear even then that the truck would not make the turn angle but no what the heck gives it a try and fails probably saw his life flash before him so throws it in reverse. At that point 94 sounded horn to say "I'm here, stay where you are and let me pass without hinderence". Did he? No! Just made things worse. You clearly hear 94 go into emergency yet the trucker still insisted on continuing despite actually being on the klinker and not the tarmac and surely felt the bump/wobble. Yes 94 was already slowing to stop at the station but what if it wasn't. All the trucker thought about from that point was himself and getting the high tail out of it. We have a law here in the UK that stipulates you must report RTC's with or without injuries. We also have a specific clause which deals with failing to stop after causing or being involved in one. I'm pretty sure your rules are much the same particularly after being involved in one last December when someone t-boned us after running a red light at 65mph in a 30mph zone. He was cuffed and led to HP vehicle. Sheriff had already checked the scene and passed over to HP enroute to another incident further up the highway. The poor HP officer got quite a shock when he realised that we were all disabled and that most of the wreckage was actually two motability scooters which had taken the full impact. Still took another 2 hrs from then to get us taken literally back round the block to where we had left. Now having never ever travelled on Amtrak, would the passengers alighting at Ashland get up and move to where disembarkation takes place? Then who's to say they didn't fall or stumble when the train went into emergency even at a low speed let alone suffered a bump here or there resulting in a bruise appearing. Bearing the last paragraph in mind, no wonder he took off. Well I hope that someone at Amtrak investigates the incident thoroughly, contacts Performance Foods for their driver's feeble statement. Should he continue his career as a truck driver? No way!!!!!
Red SUV meant to stopped on curbside and did, failed to show turn signal for stopping while doing it! It was no saint and delayed truck driver to turn. If suv had turn signal on to signal parking, truck driver could have turned without waiting. That's how we do it in the States.
Ashland seriously has a problem with oblivious drivers. Seems like every week there's a new upload showing someone not paying attention and almost injuring or killing themselves.
I have driven trucks. I agree with stex5150. Because contact is made, this is technically a hit and run. The driver's CDL needs to be pulled and appropriate charges (both the misdermeaner for leaving the scene of the accident, and traffic for the failure to stop at a stop sign) be applied.
Sailor Saturn first you have to prove he was aware contact was made. And if you want to say he deserves a ticket for a rolling stop that was clearly slowing enough to get a 10speed into 3rd gear, lets review your driving history and count up how many tickets you should receive. The way I see it he misjudged the speed of the train and was concerned with his trailer offtrack that clearly rode up on the curb and nearly scraped a sign, when he looked back I'm sure he puckered up when he realized how close he was to the train but I don't think he knew contact was made. This kind of thing happens when rail tracks are dangerously close to roads, this is a definite case of poor urban planning. I am aware that that section of roadway has existed long before the automobile and the modern tractor trailer yes I do agree. But if you take the time to look at historic photos of Ashland you would know that a single track rail line ran down center street until the early 1900's when the second track was added, that never should have been allowed in the center of town. It makes a busy main street narrower and more dangerous as it forces pedestrians and motorists into dangerously close proximity to passing trains.
Corey Schmidt I agree completely, the tracks smack in the middle of a busy street like that are a recipe for these type of things, and obviously quite a common occurrence here judging from the amount of videos posted on here. I just wish the sheer amount of people that constantly attack the drivers in these videos would step back and realize to most people driving in this area, those tracks are probably a giant headache to have there, not some great form of entertainment
I will give a plausable for the contact. There is sufficient reasonable doubt. However, I see the red octogon, full stop everytime. Even going up the grade. Stop means stop, not slow and roll. I do agree that the layout of this area is too tight, as well as the frequent stuck cars on the rails here. I still believe this driver should of waited out the train, then he could of rolled the edge of the ROW to make the turn in one try. There is no excuse under the sun for rolling stops.
Having the tandems all the way back doesn’t help much either. If I pick up a trailer with them frozen back (I put them all the way up) I suddenly lose the ability to turn.
Hi Tommy, thanks for contacting us. We are aware of the incident and have been actively investigating the situation. If you have any other questions or concerns please let me know. Glad to help if I can. that is from the company facebook page.. i sent them a youtube link.....
The only thing the company will care about is did he make is next delivery on time. Kind of like the old "Monfort Lane." So called because the Monfort company didn't care how fast their drivers drove, just get there fast and the company paid the fines.
Quite Zone rules don't apply in an emergency. The train operator should have been laying on the horn. But I can't believe people can't see a train coming - they aren't microscopic in size.
When being impatient almost costs you your life. THINK PEOPLE! I saw a man get killed crossing the street because a lady in a truck had stopped to let him cross in front of her and the guy behind her didn't know why, got impatient and served around her hitting the poor old man.
Semi driver of Performance Foodservice of Virginia is lucky the Amtrak Engineer realized they were going to occupy the same space... Kudos to the Engineer!
Say that's a real nice looking town.. happy this didn't turn into a disaster. I hope truck driver learnt his lesson.. and has learnt to pause and take stock when operating around a track.
If I was the engineer of the train I would have given the a couple of loud honks with the horn. The truck was luckily it wasn't a freight train as it wouldn't have been slowing down to stop at that station.
@@DaddysFastestSwimmer cited for negligance, if his truck was another feet to the left he couldve caused injury to himself and others, if not hundreds of thousands in damages.
As a truck driver myself, I find it very irritating that another professional driver would be that careless. Based on their trailer, I’m guessing they do local deliveries, otherwise, I don’t know why a tractor trailer would be on a road like that! Imagine if they had a sleeper on their truck instead of just a day cab!
I don’t think people realize a train sticks out over the rails a couple of feet. Even if you’re not on the tracks, a train will still slow down so they don’t hit you. These people make a massive train lose momentum
This area has so many accidents. There should at least be a guard rail. So cars can’t tumble on to the tracks. And when semis turn out they will hit the guard rail instead of sticking out on the tracks.
I'd usually suggest turning the footage in to the authorities, but most police departments "don't have time to deal with this kind of thing". Hopefully, the trucking company and Amtrak were informed and have been sent a copy of the footage.
This video or video from the locomotive can not be used as evidence to issue citations to the driver. It does not at any time meet the legal standard for evidence chain of control. This will be a civil matter between railroad and trucking company. The driver can be fired and it will be hard to find a job. However, if a citation or anything was done to the driver even a first week law school student would get it dismissed.
Matt Moschkau All of the videos can be used because they have not been tampered with in any way. The VR cameras are unattended security cameras, and the one on the Amtrak is just as good as one on a police cruiser. Your argument doesn't hold water.
Buddy Clem There is a legal standard and in this case the videos do not meet that standard. An officer must either witness the event the citation will be issued for or in cases of accidents must be called to the actual occurrence by a party involved or by witness. In this case that did not happen. Regardless if the video was tampered with or not is irrelevant, it still does not meet standard to issue a citation. This has been settled many times over in court at the state and federal level, traffic cams and videos may not be used to issue citations. Traffic cams operated by police in most states can’t even be used to issue citations. This video, at best could be used by Amtrak in a civil matter to recover costs to repair the locomotive, if any damages occurred. Had this incident been handled very differently such as calling the police at the time of occurrence then the video could possibly be used, even then it’s questionable. This has been a big issue in several investigations that the insurance industry is currently pursuing with fraud related accidents. Most video they have is from dash cams and once again, while it can be used in civil matters to recover damages, most can’t be used in legal cases. You’re dealing with two separate issues and two separate standards. No citations will be issued to the driver from this video! He can be disciplined by his employer based on this video and PFG could be required to pay damages, but he’s not getting a ticket!
I don't see why all of you are saying the driver should lose his job. The railway has a clear no-go zone, at no time did the truck cross the line. Ok from the first angle it looks like the trailer and mirror made contact, well shouldn't the engineer has his/her hands on the brake just in case? As for the video description, that isn't a 53' trailer.
Why’d the traffic gates come back up before the train passed the crossing? They go back up on a timer? Seems like more trouble waiting to happen here …
Luckily that train was going pretty slow so it was able to stop in time. Here in europe the trains go over 205 mph (330kmh) sometimes and would need about 2 miles to stop.
Tom, I live about 20 miles north of Ashland.. Pretty sure I can tell whether or not the people in this state can drive or not. And they most certainly can't!
I haven't been to California so I can't compare, but a friend of mine who goes to school here that's from there says they're about equal in how bad they are at driving. Her words not mine though.
What surprised me the most is that famous limited express trains like Amtrak run on residential roads like light rails and rural local lines. In Japan, it is necessary to move railroad tracks or install fences. Why does the USA have tracks on such a dangerous place while having vast land area?
Can you slide the tandems on a 36? Doesn’t make much sense that far back. Tandem tractor and tandem trailer all the way back, not a great setup. Oh, and add the tractor apparently being unable to shift with any enthusiasm.
Need to mention that just waiting for the train would have cost the trucker about 30 seconds, and then he could have driven on the ties if he needed to make the turn.
Well, It doesn't take much to realise that people will always try in various places such as railway crossings to try and save a minute or a few minutes in waiting for a train to pass But no they try to do what a lot of the time ends up being very costly and none more so than your life. At best you will escape serious injury but your vehicle will be scrap metal. People, please use that which we are gifted with and that is purely "" Common Sense,"" and remember it's just not your life on the line it's the train crew who do such a brilliant job, It is hard enough without people trying to beat trains just to save a few minutes. i.See it in Australia all the time. ''" It Is So Not Worth It "'. And again think of the trains crew and if a Passenger train lives of people there especially in a high speed area for trains and busy area for big rig semi's who do the unthinkable Regards John
That driver wasn't oblivious. He chose to ignore Amtrak barreling on down the track toward him. You can tell he was trying to beat the train.
In a tractor trailer ... just the vehicle you need to beat a train ....
That driver may have gave Amtrak the finger and said, 'I got the right of way, so SHUT UP!'.
I can't believe he couldn't just wait for the train.
It had a trailer... if there was someone behind him too
Always when a train is on a station I try to overtake it fully when it starts to roll on my BICYLE
I'm amazed at the drivers perfect sense of timing combined with his completely awe inspiring ability to miss two horns, flashing lights and a SHINY massive loco. I nominate him for the Darwin award. Unfortunately, he seemed to decline collecting it at the last moment.
That looked like a pretty quick stop, even for a passenger train.
It looked like the emergency brakes were applied long before the train made contact with the semi.
Luckily the station was close so the train was already slower than pass through.
Looked like a normal emergency stop to me. I ran passenger trains for years and when emergency braking was required passenger trains stop much quicker than freight trains.
It took 20 sec for the train to stop. Emergency brake application @ :35sec & full stop @ :55 sec. That's actually normal for a train that weight going that speed!
Amtrak trains have to follow certain rules in certain towns that's probably why it wasn't going fast
I remember when this video was first put on TH-cam. I forwarded it to the trucking company. They replied saying he was fired.
.......only to be driving for the competition I bet.
@@westerlywinds5684 well done
@@westerlywinds5684 along with being fired, don't you think he would have lost his license as well? After losing his license how can he be driving for other companies?
Good!
It's amazing how many people are trying to justify the truck driver in this one. "It's a quiet zone." "He couldn't see the train." Give me a break. That driver saw that train and was trying to beat it and drove stupidly when doing it. I hope that the driver's company gets an email from Amtrak and a link to this video. That kind of truck driver needs to be standing in the unemployment line.
The owner of the company this driver works... WORKED... for commented on the video. Just look for Jack Fairweather. It's safe to say that driver got shitcanned pretty hardcore for this.
J Walker: Yeah, it's a quiet zone. There're a lot of those spread throughout the country, typically in cities/towns where busy railroad tracks pass adjacent to residential suburbs. I used to work for an Advance Auto Parts and then an O'Reilly Auto Parts both on the north side of Austin and their delivery areas were both bisected by the light rail transit system. All the grade crossings have warning signs that the train doesn't use its horn, so you have to watch out.
Dave Casey b787
Quiet zones do not actually prohibit a train from using its horn if the engineer feels it’s necessary.
If a train crew sees an obvious compromise in safety they may use the horn as much as necessary and this does not violate quit zone requirements.
stephen heath It's still called street running, even though it seems like a misuse of the term.
I can only imagine the choice words that were in that engineer's cab that day lol
Warning to all drivers and pedestrians: If you see train tracks, expect a train to be on the train tracks --- every time!
almost a dead giveaway??
A true petrol-head At this point, it would take billions to make the American rail network compatible for Bullet trains. Simply because the majority of the corners aren’t wide enough for them to pass at speed. That and the fact that there aren’t many lines with overhead wires
Stop look and listen
That is the way I was raised, not just to expect a train, but to be certain there is a train until I determine otherwise.
I ride Amtrak several times a year (I'd much rather relax than drive on nerve-wracking freeways), and I've always felt reasonably confident about Amtrak safety. It's when I see and hear about all these near misses that I wonder. I know driving a truck requires additional judgment about weight and available space near train crossings, but so many semis seem to get in trouble due to plain impatience. A passenger train clears a level crossing in about a minute. That includes the lowering and raising of gates/barriers. Small sacrifice of one's time!
So many truck drivers today drive their 70 foot rigs the same way as their 2013 Ford Focus, rig drivers aren't what they used to be man. Can't tell you how many rigs I've seen swerving all over the road, speeding in the passing lane, and on their phones. It isn't a 3000 pound car, it's a 70,000 pound semi truck!
@@nicholaslokos7949 I recall getting overtaken by an 18-wheeler booking it about 90 mph in the left lane of I-4. One of several that day. It’s crazy.
It truly baffels me how people are just oblivious to the train
From that angle, the truck couldn't possibly see the train. This time, it really wasn't anyone's fault, just bad timing. Glad it was just a "fender bender."
Though the truck shouldn't have "hit and run." That's a terrible thing to do, even if it was a scrape against a train. But, maybe he didn't realize there had been any contact at all.
Hungry Guy
If the driver would've been paying attention, he'd have known that the train was there. Just because the train wasn't in the mirror doesn't mean that he couldn't see it. His window wasn't blocked.
If I would've taken my boss's truck that close to ANY other vehicle, I'd be jobless.
Besides not wanting to loose my paycheck, I kinda like the Kenworth that I drive, and don't want anything bad to happen to it.
Since the trucker could see the tracks and no doubt hear the train horn and even backed up to renegotiate the turn, he had plenty of view and warning and then heard the train mirror being clipped by his truck. Not only was it his fault, he left the accident and thus will lose his CDL, pay a huge fine, lose his job, and pay for any damage done to the train. He will be lucky if he does not do some jail time. Good riddance as we do not need that kind driving rigs on our roads.
Hungry Guy Are you suggesting the driver couldn't hear the crossing gate bells half a block south of him? Sorry, doesn't wash. That driver should lose his class one license.
They know that the train is no match to the truck... It will certainly crush the train if it continued..
Love how the second cam caught everything they will need to get this guy off the street
...this truck drivers last day on the job
apparently not, new video up on VRF looks like he has returned for more truck damage!
@@timothystevenhoward Link?
Sadly it probably won’t be. He’ll probably be with a new company.
@@DeltaLimaDelta if he still has his cdl
Derrick M he probably still does. I’ve seen people do worse things and keep their license.
That train came to a stop so much faster than I thought it would
Hope the Engineer got the enough information on the truck, that the company, gets a visit from both Amtrak authorities, and the police.
Kaless215 i imagine the trains dash cam recorded the licence plate lol
I imagine there is enough information right here in this video to know who to contact about this.
The company owner actually commented above about his driver.
Where?
don't bink where?
Irresponsible truck driver .
The truck driver licence should be revoke forever . This is for the safety of others
Submit this video to Amtrak & the trucking company as evidence.
Peter Chase I think that is definitely called for!
They already knew before contact was made.
If I'm not mistaken, I think most trains have dash cams in them anyhow.
that is a good idea
'I'm the biggest thing on the road!'
'I ain't on the road.'
I am a retired engineer with csx and amtrak, and believe it or not, i might make 1 road trip a month where a vehicle did not drive around gates in front of me or have a near miss at a crossing, that is a fact.
Try riding in a big truck if you wanna see some scary stuff. There is a reason for the decline in qualified drivers behind the wheel.
Thats why we don't put rails next to roads in Spain
@@javierba8826 that is a great plan
Why don't you just "fly" on theem?
Or near hit
Actually quite impressive the train could stop that quick. Good brakes.
Moreso good conditions, and the train was likely already decelerating for its stop.
That truck driver is so lucky the Engineer was on the ball. Even if it were a slower speed, the truck is an aluminum can compared to an anvil with a couple of inches in the wrong direction. The fact he then runs (rolls thru) the stop sign? He doesn't look like he's in a long haul truck, thus given to sleepiness...seems to me someone needs his license reviewed with a physical or two. Excellent coverage of this event!
Nana Ann w
Hiiiiii grandma
Actually, I'm a Great Grandmother, my gene pool starts young hehe. I'm probably only a year or two away from being a GGGrandmother rotfl!
Nana, I think Mr Dilbert's adrenaline was pumping and he just wanted to get out of there before any authorities showed up. "The authorities" and his boss will meet with him later in the home office no doubt when he picks up his pink slip. LOL
Great theory! You win the Virtual Railfan Internet on this one :)
It's easy to feel invincible in a truck, until a train shows up.
If that driver worked for me he would never drive again.. I would make sure of that..
I was going to say the same thing. That guy is a rolling liability. I'm sure they'd be interested to see that. Unless they're as dumb as him. And I've found that does tend to be the case with some businesses. Idiots of a feather...
My driver would be stopped, ticketed for hit and run, and drug and alcohol tested. If still able to operate, get re trained.
Larry 306 oh I totally agree
Larry 306 ya...that idiot truck driver should've let that train go by first..and then turn onto the street.
Tell us.... How will you stop that guy driving for Swift?
Notice to the truck driver: "When you get back to the terminal, drop the trailer, park the truck, clean out your locker, and your pants!"
The radio conversation with 94 and the Ashland PD was hilarious. They couldn't believe it. I'm not surprised the guy fled. I'm sure he didn't want to be drug tested, but now he's got just as big a problem!
My Aunt was riding this train today too...her first time trying Amtrak after a horrid trip to New Orleans. Just awful luck!
Is the radio conversation on YT?
Hilarious?
I am always fearful because of people this oblivious driving around.
Any pedestrian or cyclist is at risk with people like this on the road.
He heard the siren but kept on going!!!
Trains don’t have sirens; they have horns! Loud ones too!
Maybe he thought he was in the clear I guess
A siren is a device that makes a loud sound. Emilio is correct.
No he is not correct, trains don't have sirens, police cars, fire trucks, ambulances all have sirens. Trains have air horns, just like semi trucks, only bigger.
That’s cause he is a professional and knew that there was nothing to worry about
I hope that truck driver's boss saw this, including rolling the stop sign!
Have to see if I can use this at our next driver safety meeting.....He so professional in all ways.
At 00:26, he reverses up, and sees the train approaching, but at 00:34, he still pulls out, that's what I cannot understand
And why are us railtracks NOT FENCED OFF?
He would just smash the fence. Maybe, heavy duty guard rails.
They are in most places and since this particular stop goes th right thru the middle of town it doesn’t make sense as everyone would either crash into the fence or scrape up their car turning on that road
@@billdougan4022 : Agreed, but wouldn't the concrete curb and the sound of loose gravel under the truck's left, front wheel be sufficient warning for a sane driver?
What a horse, it's a short train just 1 minute waiting time maximum. My mom said Better waste 1 minute of your time that waste your live in 1 minute.
omar colon -See the captions in the video? It was 5 minutes, not 1!
Correct. The 5 minutes was for the crew to inspect the train for damage from the emergency stop. A flat spot on a wheel could cause a derailment.
@@charlessagler20 @Cliff Liese Reading is hard isn't it?? Because of it being a short train, the TRUCK driver should have waited 1 minute!!!
I’m shocked that the train STOPPED. There must have been accidents in that area before for the train conductor to behave this way.
From what I've seen on this channel... many, *many* times. 😳 Lots of close calls.
It was already slowing down for a scheduled stop just a few hundred feet past where this incident happened.
Not a conductor. ENGINEER.
@@keithsy75 Take it easy kid, it's just a TV show. For entertainment.
''No matter how big and bad you think you are, there's always somebody bigger''
1:21
I love how the truck driver doesn’t even seem to flinch! Lol!
I was actually watching this event live yesterday.
As the truck driver is approaching he would have been looking to his left in the first place so clearly would have seen the train at that point. The driver in the red suv tooted and stopped to give way to him (why I can't explain as the red suv had right of way). Clear even then that the truck would not make the turn angle but no what the heck gives it a try and fails probably saw his life flash before him so throws it in reverse. At that point 94 sounded horn to say "I'm here, stay where you are and let me pass without hinderence". Did he? No! Just made things worse. You clearly hear 94 go into emergency yet the trucker still insisted on continuing despite actually being on the klinker and not the tarmac and surely felt the bump/wobble. Yes 94 was already slowing to stop at the station but what if it wasn't. All the trucker thought about from that point was himself and getting the high tail out of it.
We have a law here in the UK that stipulates you must report RTC's with or without injuries. We also have a specific clause which deals with failing to stop after causing or being involved in one. I'm pretty sure your rules are much the same particularly after being involved in one last December when someone t-boned us after running a red light at 65mph in a 30mph zone. He was cuffed and led to HP vehicle. Sheriff had already checked the scene and passed over to HP enroute to another incident further up the highway. The poor HP officer got quite a shock when he realised that we were all disabled and that most of the wreckage was actually two motability scooters which had taken the full impact. Still took another 2 hrs from then to get us taken literally back round the block to where we had left.
Now having never ever travelled on Amtrak, would the passengers alighting at Ashland get up and move to where disembarkation takes place? Then who's to say they didn't fall or stumble when the train went into emergency even at a low speed let alone suffered a bump here or there resulting in a bruise appearing.
Bearing the last paragraph in mind, no wonder he took off. Well I hope that someone at Amtrak investigates the incident thoroughly, contacts Performance Foods for their driver's feeble statement. Should he continue his career as a truck driver?
No way!!!!!
Red SUV meant to stopped on curbside and did, failed to show turn signal for stopping while doing it! It was no saint and delayed truck driver to turn. If suv had turn signal on to signal parking, truck driver could have turned without waiting. That's how we do it in the States.
I say let him continue...as a *stunt* driver, on traveling shows
@@apurugganan ha ha good idea!!
Ashland seriously has a problem with oblivious drivers. Seems like every week there's a new upload showing someone not paying attention and almost injuring or killing themselves.
Well, Performance Foodservice knows now. Drivers like that need to be taken off the road for their own good. There was no excuse.
Spoken like a man who has never driven a truck.
I have driven trucks. I agree with stex5150. Because contact is made, this is technically a hit and run. The driver's CDL needs to be pulled and appropriate charges (both the misdermeaner for leaving the scene of the accident, and traffic for the failure to stop at a stop sign) be applied.
Sailor Saturn first you have to prove he was aware contact was made. And if you want to say he deserves a ticket for a rolling stop that was clearly slowing enough to get a 10speed into 3rd gear, lets review your driving history and count up how many tickets you should receive. The way I see it he misjudged the speed of the train and was concerned with his trailer offtrack that clearly rode up on the curb and nearly scraped a sign, when he looked back I'm sure he puckered up when he realized how close he was to the train but I don't think he knew contact was made. This kind of thing happens when rail tracks are dangerously close to roads, this is a definite case of poor urban planning. I am aware that that section of roadway has existed long before the automobile and the modern tractor trailer yes I do agree. But if you take the time to look at historic photos of Ashland you would know that a single track rail line ran down center street until the early 1900's when the second track was added, that never should have been allowed in the center of town. It makes a busy main street narrower and more dangerous as it forces pedestrians and motorists into dangerously close proximity to passing trains.
Corey Schmidt I agree completely, the tracks smack in the middle of a busy street like that are a recipe for these type of things, and obviously quite a common occurrence here judging from the amount of videos posted on here. I just wish the sheer amount of people that constantly attack the drivers in these videos would step back and realize to most people driving in this area, those tracks are probably a giant headache to have there, not some great form of entertainment
I will give a plausable for the contact. There is sufficient reasonable doubt. However, I see the red octogon, full stop everytime. Even going up the grade. Stop means stop, not slow and roll. I do agree that the layout of this area is too tight, as well as the frequent stuck cars on the rails here. I still believe this driver should of waited out the train, then he could of rolled the edge of the ROW to make the turn in one try. There is no excuse under the sun for rolling stops.
That is the tidiest little town center! ✨ Enjoyed it, thanks! 😃
That's a 36' trailer, not 53'. Still too big, apparently. Performance Food might want to consider the Ford Transit Connect.
LOL
I wouldn't trust this driver in a Ford Fiesta!
@@Rick-S-6063 I would not trust that driver on foot, in the woods, with no one else around.
Having the tandems all the way back doesn’t help much either. If I pick up a trailer with them frozen back (I put them all the way up) I suddenly lose the ability to turn.
I worked that train for a few years. My favorite part of the run..
Hi Tommy, thanks for contacting us. We are aware of the incident and have been actively investigating the situation. If you have any other questions or concerns please let me know. Glad to help if I can.
that is from the company facebook page.. i sent them a youtube link.....
Nice!!!!!
The only thing the company will care about is did he make is next delivery on time. Kind of like the old "Monfort Lane." So called because the Monfort company didn't care how fast their drivers drove, just get there fast and the company paid the fines.
The truck and train both loved each other a lot!!
Only in Ashland. Am I the only one that thinks it was a Bad Idea to make Ashland a Quiet Zone?
Quite Zone rules don't apply in an emergency. The train operator should have been laying on the horn. But I can't believe people can't see a train coming - they aren't microscopic in size.
Why is it a quiet zone in the first place?
When being impatient almost costs you your life. THINK PEOPLE! I saw a man get killed crossing the street because a lady in a truck had stopped to let him cross in front of her and the guy behind her didn't know why, got impatient and served around her hitting the poor old man.
Wow that was a really close call !
Semi driver of Performance Foodservice of Virginia is lucky the Amtrak Engineer realized they were going to occupy the same space...
Kudos to the Engineer!
Holy Smoke. I hope they find that driver.
The truck belongs to a company a few mikes from Ashland.
May want to share with the Virginia State Police as well. This is a hit and run.
I would love to have an office on the 2nd floor looking over that spot. Especially if freight uses this line too! An amazing view!
They do - its the CSX main line North-South (look up CSX RF&P Subdivision)
Wow! To close! You can hear the Train go into emergency braking. I'm surprised the engineer wasn't laying on the horn the whole time.
Agreed, I thought the same thing.
The engineer was too nice at the time. I would have made sure everyone around knew what happened.
Agreed, well actually "too close" but what's an "o" between like-minded people.
He's only got two arms and I'm sure both were pulling on the brake.
@@bigsky1970 That brake is a just handle!! You can turn it with two fingers!!
Say that's a real nice looking town.. happy this didn't turn into a disaster. I hope truck driver learnt his lesson.. and has learnt to pause and take stock when operating around a track.
The city's favorite truck driver
KC Railfanning r
heavy Canadian equipment then who will deliver to the local businesses?
Its very fortunate that nobody got hurt. How nerve racking to watch this.
Thankfully no major damage and no injuries.
Living in this town would be a pain! I'm sure they are used to it and love it.
If I was the engineer of the train I would have given the a couple of loud honks with the horn. The truck was luckily it wasn't a freight train as it wouldn't have been slowing down to stop at that station.
thats dangerously loud
Wow... it only took a year for this video to appear in my TH-cam feed.
The driver knows that he was wrong thats why he was trying to get away
What a nice looking town! Greetings from West Yorkshire.
train: nears ashland
driver: chuckles, I’m in danger
Fantastic capture brother Big like this video 👍👍
Would love to learn the full outcome on this one. Trucker driver needs to be cited and fired.
Fired maybe, but cited for making a right turn? Doubtful.
@@DaddysFastestSwimmer cited for negligance, if his truck was another feet to the left he couldve caused injury to himself and others, if not hundreds of thousands in damages.
As a truck driver myself, I find it very irritating that another professional driver would be that careless. Based on their trailer, I’m guessing they do local deliveries, otherwise, I don’t know why a tractor trailer would be on a road like that! Imagine if they had a sleeper on their truck instead of just a day cab!
I'm guessing that guy wasn't at the top of his class in school.
"What's school?"
Truck drivers are so in patient they could never wait
I sure hope VR has a copy of this.That dude in that truck needs to be arrested
Great & epic rail work....I like IT!!!! Big like from Romania
That’s a Hit and run
he rolled the stop sign as he just came into concept "note to self" THERE IS A WALMART DOWN THE ROAD, I NEED A NEW PAIR OF PANTS!!!!!
I don’t think people realize a train sticks out over the rails a couple of feet. Even if you’re not on the tracks, a train will still slow down so they don’t hit you. These people make a massive train lose momentum
4 feet is the clearance on both sides of the rails.
This area has so many accidents. There should at least be a guard rail. So cars can’t tumble on to the tracks. And when semis turn out they will hit the guard rail instead of sticking out on the tracks.
I'd usually suggest turning the footage in to the authorities, but most police departments "don't have time to deal with this kind of thing". Hopefully, the trucking company and Amtrak were informed and have been sent a copy of the footage.
coinman1972 hit and run involving a commercial vehicle isn't something too small for the police to handle.
I would also send it to the owner of the truck as well
This video or video from the locomotive can not be used as evidence to issue citations to the driver. It does not at any time meet the legal standard for evidence chain of control.
This will be a civil matter between railroad and trucking company. The driver can be fired and it will be hard to find a job. However, if a citation or anything was done to the driver even a first week law school student would get it dismissed.
Matt Moschkau All of the videos can be used because they have not been tampered with in any way. The VR cameras are unattended security cameras, and the one on the Amtrak is just as good as one on a police cruiser. Your argument doesn't hold water.
Buddy Clem
There is a legal standard and in this case the videos do not meet that standard. An officer must either witness the event the citation will be issued for or in cases of accidents must be called to the actual occurrence by a party involved or by witness. In this case that did not happen. Regardless if the video was tampered with or not is irrelevant, it still does not meet standard to issue a citation. This has been settled many times over in court at the state and federal level, traffic cams and videos may not be used to issue citations. Traffic cams operated by police in most states can’t even be used to issue citations.
This video, at best could be used by Amtrak in a civil matter to recover costs to repair the locomotive, if any damages occurred.
Had this incident been handled very differently such as calling the police at the time of occurrence then the video could possibly be used, even then it’s questionable.
This has been a big issue in several investigations that the insurance industry is currently pursuing with fraud related accidents. Most video they have is from dash cams and once again, while it can be used in civil matters to recover damages, most can’t be used in legal cases.
You’re dealing with two separate issues and two separate standards. No citations will be issued to the driver from this video! He can be disciplined by his employer based on this video and PFG could be required to pay damages, but he’s not getting a ticket!
Glad that the Amtrack crew takes safety seriously. Hopefully that truck driver gets at least a record tick.
I would have laid on that train horn for a hot minute!
quiet one
But being in a quiet zone, I would switch to *full verbal abuse* mode instead
I don't see why all of you are saying the driver should lose his job. The railway has a clear no-go zone, at no time did the truck cross the line. Ok from the first angle it looks like the trailer and mirror made contact, well shouldn't the engineer has his/her hands on the brake just in case? As for the video description, that isn't a 53' trailer.
Did the Amtrak driver honk enough? Should have just held it on constantly.
Why’d the traffic gates come back up before the train passed the crossing? They go back up on a timer?
Seems like more trouble waiting to happen here …
Luckily that train was going pretty slow so it was able to stop in time. Here in europe the trains go over 205 mph (330kmh) sometimes and would need about 2 miles to stop.
Those kind of trains don’t run through a city like that. Can you imagine a bullet train going through a city like that? 🤣
0:21.... truck be like waiting to give smack to the train.. lol
All the crazy stuff goes down in Ashland!
Because us Virginians can't drive!
Tom, I live about 20 miles north of Ashland.. Pretty sure I can tell whether or not the people in this state can drive or not. And they most certainly can't!
It used to be a nice place when i lived there. Now it's yuppie lawyers that commute to D.C. I moved away.
ReinSouls Can't be any worse than Californians. Don't forget, we invented the "California Stop," which that truck driver used. Hmm, you don't think …
I haven't been to California so I can't compare, but a friend of mine who goes to school here that's from there says they're about equal in how bad they are at driving. Her words not mine though.
LOL...LOVE the "Toy's and Trains" store right across the track!
gtc1961 Never noticed it before, thanks.
Truck driver was like "Are you talking to me?"
Baffles me how some people get a drivers license especially a commercial DL. Unreal!
What surprised me the most is that famous limited express trains like Amtrak run on residential roads like light rails and rural local lines.
In Japan, it is necessary to move railroad tracks or install fences.
Why does the USA have tracks on such a dangerous place while having vast land area?
In most of the USA, the tracks were there first.
In most of America this isn't the case, the town in the video is just a rare exception to this, which is what makes this location famous
@@cadenh03 I didn't think it was a rare place in the USA. thank you for teaching me.
@@paulpinball9952 I don't know if the truck you're talking about is Amtrak or a car, but thank you for your reply.
@@腋ノ下腋乃わきのん they meant tracks, as in the railroad tracks. the town was built around the railroad tracks around the year 1840
That guy was a sorry excuse for a truck driver. What an idiot. He needs reprehended by his company. Thanks for the video. 👍
No wonder train service in the USA is poor and not very timely.
This road design looks horrible.
They need a fence around it like by my house
Pls have some eyes here
They did have some fencing vua concrete blocks
Can't believe the engineer stopped for the truck rather than plowing thru like nothing was there.
Not a 53' it's a 36' trailer. I used to work for that company
Can you slide the tandems on a 36? Doesn’t make much sense that far back. Tandem tractor and tandem trailer all the way back, not a great setup. Oh, and add the tractor apparently being unable to shift with any enthusiasm.
It’s great to a new ‘rail fan’… looking forward to some cool train viewing…
nice video
That’s a beautiful P42DC
...wow... glad it wasn't worse!
This incident gets all the cameras in the world but when they're truly needed there's none available
If the train mirror made contact the it was a hit, not a near miss.
I would describe that collision as the corner of the truck's trailer hitting the train's mirror.
VR should send this footage to the Ashland PD. The truck driver shouldn't get away with his reckless action.
Instead of driving big rigs, he is now asking people "Do you want fries with that?"
I hope so
More likely working for Swift.
Need to mention that just waiting for the train would have cost the trucker about 30 seconds, and then he could have driven on the ties if he needed to make the turn.
That should be loss of cdl and a 20k fine for endangering people on the train
See the power of truck driver. It can stop even a train. Beware of such drivers.
Pramod Kumar they're the king of the roads for a reason
Imagine how that trucker regards fellow road users. His ego has overgrown to a level that trains are no big deal
I was thinking that, I can imagine this guy plowing cars from one lane to another or even to the shoulder in the interstates .... its a criminal
If I was driving that train I would file a complaint against the truck company
Jeez thanks railroad Randy, never had more fun, does anyone have and extra 4 minutes I can borrow so I can watch it again
Well, It doesn't take much to realise that people will always try in various places such as railway crossings to try and save a minute or a few minutes in waiting for a train to pass But no they try to do what a lot of the time ends up being very costly and none more so than your life.
At best you will escape serious injury but your vehicle will be scrap metal.
People, please use that which we are gifted with and that is purely "" Common Sense,"" and remember it's just not your life on the line it's the train crew who do such a brilliant job, It is hard enough without people trying to beat trains just to save a few minutes.
i.See it in Australia all the time.
''" It Is So Not Worth It "'.
And again think of the trains crew and if a Passenger train lives of people there especially in a high speed area for trains and busy area for big rig semi's who do the unthinkable
Regards
John