As a Korean American, I remember back in 2005 when The Republic of Korea Air Force (ROKAF) received the F-15K Slam Eagles. What an amazing jet along with the KF-16s.
I was an F-15E "C-shopper", comm/nav/RWR/TEWS technician for many many years from 86 to 97. The F-15E is, in my opinion, one of the greatest fighter jets to ever exist. I am very lucky to have flown in one for an incentive flight over Alaska in 1992. Thanks for this video,
Yeah as Mega is alluding to the SE is a VERY heavy bird which cuts into it's ability to maneuver quite a bit. It doesn't hold a candle to a much more nimble aircraft in WVR.
@@Stubbies2003 The SE is the Silent Eagle isn't it? I guess the Strike Eagle is an SE too. haha. The EX is heavier than a Strike Eagle (empty weights compared head to head) It's a shame the USAF didn't get the Silent Eagle instead, honestly. But they wanted something fast, like yesterday fast. So they basically just picked an already in production model. In fact the EX has had several features that exist in overseas birds deleted, to get it into production faster for the lowest price possible.
I’ve been an airplane nut all my life and was in high school when both the F-15 & F-16 came out. I thought from the very beginning both were the most beautiful and functional modern fighters ever produced and still feel that way. This video made me think of the lyrics from Dos Gringos "I Wish I had a Gun Just Like The A-10". The line about "I wish I had 8 AMRAMS like the Eagle". Well they’ve got to rewrite that line now. Thanks for sharing Mover!
@@rastaboy_gamesnstuff7778 That's true. But how often are you going to fly a mission that requires carrying twelve missiles, let alone firing them in one go?
@@Stinger522 South Pacific issues with China are on the horizon, they may need them (hopefully not) in that theatre considering the number of flying assets the opposition has, plus the range needed in that scenario.
I was at the first public dirty demo for this jet earlier this year and it was jaw dropping what it could do, even before you take into account all that extra drag and weight. Very cool to see in person.
those F-16 C block 50-52 origin nozzles apparently increased max thrust by about 8k-10k pounds of thrust per engine or something? like they are both super stylish and super efficient. I always wondered by the F-15C and E didn't have them but the F-16C did. newer engine with a newer nozzle.
@@karlkinnard9932 There was some kind of vibration issue when having two engines, which caused the "turkey feathers" (the nozzle cover petals), to fall off, so they removed them. Being single engine, the F-16 didn't have that problem with the same engines.
That is a lot of AMRAAMS wouldn't want to mess with those QA's for sure, I saw where Portland Air Guards got a few (I'm not sure how many) E/X's this past June, I saw them and wow they are a lot bigger in person than watching in videos, Thanks as always Mover I enjoy your input and explanations.
Both the 260 & 174 weigh almost 5x times as much as the 120s. She’ll probably carry more then any other fighter but definitely not carrying 12 of them.
Stoked that the Oregon ANG is being upgraded with an entire squadron of EXs at PDX. Add to that the new F-35 training center in K-Falls and we'll be spoiled for air power around here.
From what I understand, purchase the F-35 requires certain infrastructure that may not be required for other aircraft (physical, cyber, etc). So I can see this being an attractive option for those nations unable to comply with the required conditions for an F-35 purchase. And frankly, unless you plan on fighting a nation with F-35s, the AESA radar on the new F-15s is more than capable to accomplish its mission. But Mover, you are correct. The per unit cost of the F-35 is lower than an F-15EX. If you want ECM and Targeting pods (both included in the F-35), then that adds an additional $8-$12 million to the per unit costs of the F-15EX. F-35 is a good deal and when the maintenance infrastructure is completed, its (F-35) operational costs will be lower as well. But we can’t always get what we want and ANY nation would be well served with an F-15EX/F-15QA, etc.
I was fortunate to see 2 demos of the F-15 QA on the Sunday at RIAT. The dirty demo was supposed to be on the Saturday but got postponed due to bad weather. Both demos.... actually the whole day's displays were spectacular
They have another video of the Block III Super Hornet with a truck load of AMRAAMS on it too, Ricardo Craven from Canada pulled off an Amazing video. I think this is what we need to do more videos of and even air show demonstrations with these aircraft configured like this. Not only would it wow the general public, it would probably go a long way for potential customers to see what type of performance they are going to get from these aircraft when they are fully loaded out.
I’m still trying to find the one with the Aims but here’s one loaded out with fuel tanks, jstows AMRAAM’s and AIM-9X’s on the wing tips doing an unrestricted flight. I love watching Boeing do this with these aircraft th-cam.com/video/r-_OWMDN64M/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1iMsDOx5tg0tAaWs
when I finished my career I had flown 56 different aircraft with the only notable exceptions being the B-2, F-117 and A-10. Hands down the best and most enjoyable was the F-15E. I expect the A-10 would have topped it but it would have been close. There was so much room in that cockpit it was amazing
The first time I saw a F-15 EX flight demo with a fat AMRAAM load out, I bout peed myself lol. That Eagle was flying like it had TVC! We're talking abrupt direction reversals, helicopter-nose-authority flat spins, tail slides, absolutely _stupid_ extreme AoA on demand, and acceleration out of extreme AoA that reminds me of the F-35 (yup. F-35 flight demos are very revealing as to that jet's true capability). In every way Boeing has put it right outta the ballpark with the F-15EX.
I started working the F-15 when they were painted robin egg blue. Hard to see them over the south west. I'm going to guess that the Aircraft is G-limited to less the 7.5 in this configuration. I remember Israel doing something like this back in the 70s but not all of the pylons had MRIUs, (Missile Remote Interface Units). Their process was to fly to a remote facility and down load the missiles that couldn't be fired, fly a combat mission and return to base for a reload. Using the F-15E as a gun truck for missiles makes it a game changer when paired with the F-35s and drones.
@Stubbies2003 They took the F-15E with conformal fuel tanks and modified it to the F-15EX. All new builds. The F-15E is still available as a deep strike attack AC with self protection ability.
@@jasondotter1932 What about G-limit on the weapon and the pylons? When doing 9 G or 7.5 they are doing well in excess of that. I know the MRIUs had microchips having legs break of by being over stressed.
The EX is even more impressive with the capability to hold up to 20 AMRAAMs with the expanded Boeing AMBER racks, with speculation that there's room to push that to 22 eventually before they run out of space.
She is a big girl, so different the fight than the Viper , but Im honored to have flown her. The Eagle was My dad's dream as a F-106 IWS Instructor at Tyndall when she first showed on the ramp... Glad she is still in the fight, and improving.
I went to the Mass. National Guard Airshow last year and my daughter and I were walking up to the entrance by the end of the runway when two side by side F-15s went ballistic staight up from us. Holy God was that loud!!!!
I saw this F-15QA demo at RIAT RAF Fairford back in July. They flew both a clean airframe and a fully loaded second airframe. As an observer, I saw very little difference in both displays as far as any performance penalty that the AMRAAMS had on the airframe. That doesn’t mean to say that perhaps the pilot needed to yank harder on the stick or add a bit more power at certain phases of the demo. I noted a slight lag in the initial take off performance given the extra weight but the new fly-by-wire system soon took care of that. Overall my favourite performance of the show and an aircraft to be afraid of in the combat arena.
Saw all their displays at RIAT 2024, across the week-end, and they were easily one of the highlights of the show. Especially when they flew with a full load of 12 AMRAAM's.
It's surprising with the f-15 being one of the more successful and versatile aircraft in our arsenal that we don't see them performing at air shows very often
In DCS, we call this sort of loadout SPAMRAAMAZON Prime. I know none of the DCS jets can hold 12 AMRAAM's, but whenever we Load up the max number of AMRAAM's a given jet can carry. it becomes SPAMRAAMAZON Prime
The F/A-18C can carry a comparable loadout (10x AIM-120 and 2x AIM-9). Might not be all AMRAAMs but still 12 missiles total and the EX gives up the two AIM-9s to get the full 12 AMRAAMs (or could just go with the same exact loadout the F/A-18C can use). I know the Super Hornet can load 12x AIM-120s as well but like the EX it is not in DCS (without mods), and is sluggish compared to the EX with that loadout.
@@NuclearFalcon146technically, the EX can load more than 12 AMRAAM's. I think early on they were talking about up to 20. Of course... That much drag and weight might not be ideal.
@@NuclearFalcon146 It would also be a huge waste if shot down, and the AIM-120 doesn't have the range to keep the F-15 outside the engagement range of potential enemy fighters.
I'm an IP at Al Ubeid and they fly them every day. The training area is pretty tight and we all have to share it. Pretty funny to see one of these doing low level in the same area we are doing our stuff, lol.
this just shows how good McDonnell Douglas was at building aircraft before the merger, they built the F-15 so well that even Boeing giving it its best shot can't screw it up.
Boeing also built fantastic aircraft before the merger and it’s fairly well reported that McDonnell Douglas execs were the ones in charge of the new boeing
I watched the F-15QA display each day at the Royal international Air Tattoo in July. Both the clean aircraft and the missile truck performed each day, plus they both did validation displays before the public days. So, I think I saw them perform maybe 8 times. It reminded me of the Ukrainian Flanker display in a lot of ways. All about a big imposing aircraft being thrown around and looking a beast. Nowhere near as agile as the lighter fighters, not disappointing but I preferred the Danish F-16 display to be honest. Air show flying isn’t really the Eagles forte. It works for the Raptor because it’s a beast in every domain.
So simple concept. Take an excellent already in service fighter that's still in production, adapt state of the art new technology and updates to it and make it current time capable part of the fleet for MILLIONS less than the bloated F35. There is no reason all current F-16s, F-18s and F-15s that time out couldn't be replaced with these updated craft, let alone a proper trainer to replace the T-38. Great video. Something tells me the reason Boeing's Airline quality issues haven't bled into the F-15 or F-18 is probably because of the excellent local leadership and staff at that St. Louis plant (McDonnell Douglas leftover standards being maintained).
@@Stubbies2003 Well, I'm getting old now, like... operation "Eagle Claw" old- so it's still nice to catch a few gems I've missed along the way, lol. Thx for your content. new to the channel, subbed.
The pitch meeting for the EX/QA program probably went something like this: Boeing: “how many missiles do you want?” Buyers: “you ever play Ace Combat?” Boeing: “say no more.” Saw the QAs demo at RIAT, oh my! Both loaded and clean configuration, it still performed to the same degree, remarkable machinery. As said, Boeing have had a rough time lately, but at least they’ve got this right.
Think that QA was here at the FtL Airshow last May. Flew solo. This year was the Thunderbirds instead of the usual local(Pensacola) F/A 18’s Super Hornets. Wish the F-15 had an acrobatic team
I remember 2 F-15's flying ovet Belgium many years ago. Belgium has F-16's so I was surprisex a bit. Turns out later they where chasing a pilotless Mig....
And that's probably the full 20mm drum also since its part of the CoG considerations. And the scary thing is the airframe still has the capacity, though maybe not the same G-load limit, to carry the CFTs, the targeting pods and three drop tanks for a really long loiter as an amraam truck. And we don't know (publically) if there's any efforts going on to intergrate the AIM-174b onto the F-15EX yet as its a navy led missile program and they focused on making it work with the Super Hornet. It does have the capability for the AIM-260 but the 174b while slower should reach out further.
Wonder if the plan is to have this be a missile boat parked 100 nm away, while a F-22 or F-35 gets lock and ID. My grandfather was project manager at Hughes Aircraft for the AMRAAM. Miss you granddad, glad your work is still flourishing.
The EX is truly in a league of it's own, not quite an F-22 but is definitely the pit bull in the corner the the enemy must consider because she's coming at you and there's nothing you can do about it.
Well I hate to bust that notion but they bought it when they bought McDonnell Douglas. It was capable of many of these things all the way back then when it was designed. McD even designed the strike eagle in house before the airforce asked for it.
Another good video , thanks ! About the 2:03 mark, crew chief reaching hp for the good luck touch? About the 2:59 mark , shows, per my USN and curmudgeonly engineering skills , 12 AMRAAMS, in credible ! Some latter closeups show that too, no doubt to *show* maneuvering with the load-out ..... but , could it carry more ? 😉
People talk a lot of smack about McDonnell Douglas. And how their merger ruined Boeing. But the F-15 was done right from the start. It only needed a little love after 50 years to bring it into the current state of the art, among the 4.5 gens.
Why don’t they just make a Boeing 737 variant that carries like 150 AIM-120s or something in a big rotary missile bay and just throws them in waves at the enemy? Like just an airborne guided missile destroyer
If you're going to convert an airliner to spam AAMs, you _really_ want something with longer range than an AIM-120 - otherwise all you've done is create another big, slow, high-value target. AIM-174B might be starting to get into the ballpark.
@@Philistine47 someone has to ask it atleast once. I wonder how many they could fit on the stratolaunch. It'd be like the Spruce Goose and the C-5 had an offspring and the AC-130 was the uncle.
Bro, you could win so many medals with a single loadout. You'll look like a North Korean general after a few missions. Okay, jokes aside, serious military question, will this break DCS competitive multiplayer?
@@CWLemoine Two fully loaded F-15QA with SPAMRAAM could pretty much take out our entire South African Gripen fighter force in a single sortie. That's nuts. We should buy these in case we go to war with Antarctica (they've been giving us the cold shoulder lately).
Seen a few DCS combats and it seems that in a full war it doesn't matter how many missiles, you still have to use guns sometimes. DCS isn't real life of course but i reckon it will be proved to be true
How many AMRAAMS do you carry?
F-15: *Yes*
That's what I want to say. 😅
I am the SPAMRAAMS!
There was a pitch for mountings with 24 of the things. That'd be a sight to see.
"all of them"
Super Hornet: Yes
As a Korean American, I remember back in 2005 when The Republic of Korea Air Force (ROKAF) received the F-15K Slam Eagles. What an amazing jet along with the KF-16s.
Slam Eagle is still the best name of all the variants, IMO.
I was an F-15E "C-shopper", comm/nav/RWR/TEWS technician for many many years from 86 to 97. The F-15E is, in my opinion, one of the greatest fighter jets to ever exist. I am very lucky to have flown in one for an incentive flight over Alaska in 1992. Thanks for this video,
@@MegaDeth859 the f-15e is not a fighter.
Yeah as Mega is alluding to the SE is a VERY heavy bird which cuts into it's ability to maneuver quite a bit. It doesn't hold a candle to a much more nimble aircraft in WVR.
@@Stubbies2003 The SE is the Silent Eagle isn't it? I guess the Strike Eagle is an SE too. haha.
The EX is heavier than a Strike Eagle (empty weights compared head to head)
It's a shame the USAF didn't get the Silent Eagle instead, honestly. But they wanted something fast, like yesterday fast. So they basically just picked an already in production model. In fact the EX has had several features that exist in overseas birds deleted, to get it into production faster for the lowest price possible.
@@Valorius It is a fighter. It's both a fighter and an attacker.
I’ve been an airplane nut all my life and was in high school when both the F-15 & F-16 came out. I thought from the very beginning both were the most beautiful and functional modern fighters ever produced and still feel that way. This video made me think of the lyrics from Dos Gringos "I Wish I had a Gun Just Like The A-10". The line about "I wish I had 8 AMRAMS like the Eagle". Well they’ve got to rewrite that line now. Thanks for sharing Mover!
First thing I thought of was that song when I saw the EX loadouts. The lyrics are now out of date.
Saw 2 displays of the QA recently at RIAT , one clean and one with the 12 amraams. Absolutely fantastic 👍🏻😎
Yeah, Sam them at the RIAT as well. In was mindblowing👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Boeing: Don't go to space. Made me lol. 🤣
12 AMRAAMS is amazing. You could make double ace in one mission.
Only need 10 for that😅
2 are for redundency.
@@rastaboy_gamesnstuff77782 more just Incase
@@rastaboy_gamesnstuff7778 That's true. But how often are you going to fly a mission that requires carrying twelve missiles, let alone firing them in one go?
@@Stinger522 South Pacific issues with China are on the horizon, they may need them (hopefully not) in that theatre considering the number of flying assets the opposition has, plus the range needed in that scenario.
I was at the first public dirty demo for this jet earlier this year and it was jaw dropping what it could do, even before you take into account all that extra drag and weight. Very cool to see in person.
The return of those beautiful exhaust nuzzles has to be one of the best design choices they have ever made.
those F-16 C block 50-52 origin nozzles apparently increased max thrust by about 8k-10k pounds of thrust per engine or something? like they are both super stylish and super efficient. I always wondered by the F-15C and E didn't have them but the F-16C did. newer engine with a newer nozzle.
@@karlkinnard9932 There was some kind of vibration issue when having two engines, which caused the "turkey feathers" (the nozzle cover petals), to fall off, so they removed them. Being single engine, the F-16 didn't have that problem with the same engines.
The Es use Pratt engines while the SG, K, QA, SA, and EX uses GE engines. These exhaust nozzles are specific to GE engines.@@karlkinnard9932
The first Eagle with fly-by-wire, also. A lethal jet, for sure.
1:50 This variant just got its name: SpAMRAAM
War thunders players
SpAMRAAMs can open up an enemy bandit like a can of SPAM. This new generation F-15 is unbelievably good.
F-15 is such a beautiful plane!
Especially the single seat.
I like both the single & two-seaters.
Seeing in person at the Spirit of St Louis AS was amazing including the engine sound.
That was an awesome show!
Did you guys see it both days? There were three shows total for it.
@ArkansasBassMan We went Saturday
I’m not a pilot but I’ve always loved the F-14 and the F-15.
That is a lot of AMRAAMS wouldn't want to mess with those QA's for sure, I saw where Portland Air Guards got a few (I'm not sure how many) E/X's this past June, I saw them and wow they are a lot bigger in person than watching in videos, Thanks as always Mover I enjoy your input and explanations.
Hi, Mover. I can see into the future . Imagine 12 AIM-260's...
He wants AIM-174B’s…..
Both the 260 & 174 weigh almost 5x times as much as the 120s. She’ll probably carry more then any other fighter but definitely not carrying 12 of them.
@@redfox1984 okay 4 174B’s
My son works for a particular defence company that I'm sure you know, which is based at Farnborough. He watched it live.😊
Reminds me of a work of fiction, many years ago, about an F-16XL with a dozen or so sidewinders carried. Love crank arrow wings and 401 engines.
I love it- looks better than with the conformal tanks with missiles. Thanks for sharing. :)
Chris Sanchez is amazing. What a great job.
I saw the airshow video. There wasn't any footage from the cockpit. This video was cool because it had that aspect. Brilliant.
Stoked that the Oregon ANG is being upgraded with an entire squadron of EXs at PDX. Add to that the new F-35 training center in K-Falls and we'll be spoiled for air power around here.
Always loved the F15... since the '80's..... So can we start seeing it again at our airshows???? Please???
Google tells me the unit cost of an AIM-120D is $1,090,000. That times 12 is $13,080,000. That's a pricy loadout that can do a lot of work.
When the jets they are destroying is around $50-100M, it's worth the cost.
such as shooting down 5k flying doritos headig towards the chosen people well worth of wise choice protecting us jews even though we hate you
@@dexterplameras3249 Theyre gonna be used for cruise missiles and bigger drones too.
@@FlyLeah Still cheaper (in most cases) than the cost of what those missiles and drones would hit...
AIM-260 even better
I used to work on these in the AF and got three rides, quite an awesome machine!
You got rides on Qatari F-15s?!
@@jasonpeacock9735 No doubt he is talking about just the basic airframe itself so the F-15 generically not a EX or QA model.
@@jasonpeacock9735 F-15D to be exact.
I was there in St. Louis they gave us an amazing demo🔥🔥
From what I understand, purchase the F-35 requires certain infrastructure that may not be required for other aircraft (physical, cyber, etc). So I can see this being an attractive option for those nations unable to comply with the required conditions for an F-35 purchase. And frankly, unless you plan on fighting a nation with F-35s, the AESA radar on the new F-15s is more than capable to accomplish its mission.
But Mover, you are correct. The per unit cost of the F-35 is lower than an F-15EX. If you want ECM and Targeting pods (both included in the F-35), then that adds an additional $8-$12 million to the per unit costs of the F-15EX. F-35 is a good deal and when the maintenance infrastructure is completed, its (F-35) operational costs will be lower as well. But we can’t always get what we want and ANY nation would be well served with an F-15EX/F-15QA, etc.
I was fortunate to see 2 demos of the F-15 QA on the Sunday at RIAT. The dirty demo was supposed to be on the Saturday but got postponed due to bad weather. Both demos.... actually the whole day's displays were spectacular
getting closer every day to 50 missiles,
Ace Combat is a documentary that travelled back in time.
They have another video of the Block III Super Hornet with a truck load of AMRAAMS on it too, Ricardo Craven from Canada pulled off an Amazing video. I think this is what we need to do more videos of and even air show demonstrations with these aircraft configured like this. Not only would it wow the general public, it would probably go a long way for potential customers to see what type of performance they are going to get from these aircraft when they are fully loaded out.
I’m still trying to find the one with the Aims but here’s one loaded out with fuel tanks, jstows AMRAAM’s and AIM-9X’s on the wing tips doing an unrestricted flight. I love watching Boeing do this with these aircraft th-cam.com/video/r-_OWMDN64M/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1iMsDOx5tg0tAaWs
Saw the demo at RIAT fully loaded - absolute beast
Saw this @ RIAT 2024 on the Friday - was a crazy demo! :D
That is an amazing aircraft, still my favourite.
when I finished my career I had flown 56 different aircraft with the only notable exceptions being the B-2, F-117 and A-10. Hands down the best and most enjoyable was the F-15E. I expect the A-10 would have topped it but it would have been close. There was so much room in that cockpit it was amazing
I watched a QA video a month or so ago. It was doing F-22 type demo maneuvers. Very impressive.
The first time I saw a F-15 EX flight demo with a fat AMRAAM load out, I bout peed myself lol. That Eagle was flying like it had TVC! We're talking abrupt direction reversals, helicopter-nose-authority flat spins, tail slides, absolutely _stupid_ extreme AoA on demand, and acceleration out of extreme AoA that reminds me of the F-35 (yup. F-35 flight demos are very revealing as to that jet's true capability). In every way Boeing has put it right outta the ballpark with the F-15EX.
Where have you seen an EX demo???
I started working the F-15 when they were painted robin egg blue. Hard to see them over the south west. I'm going to guess that the Aircraft is G-limited to less the 7.5 in this configuration. I remember Israel doing something like this back in the 70s but not all of the pylons had MRIUs, (Missile Remote Interface Units). Their process was to fly to a remote facility and down load the missiles that couldn't be fired, fly a combat mission and return to base for a reload. Using the F-15E as a gun truck for missiles makes it a game changer when paired with the F-35s and drones.
F-15EX or QA not the F-15E. Using the Strike Eagle as simply a missile truck is a poor allocation of the SE abilities.
@Stubbies2003 They took the F-15E with conformal fuel tanks and modified it to the F-15EX. All new builds. The F-15E is still available as a deep strike attack AC with self protection ability.
MikeC - no g-limits in this configuration. Full up 9g capable.
@@jasondotter1932 What about G-limit on the weapon and the pylons? When doing 9 G or 7.5 they are doing well in excess of that. I know the MRIUs had microchips having legs break of by being over stressed.
Great video, I definitely agree!!!
The EX is even more impressive with the capability to hold up to 20 AMRAAMs with the expanded Boeing AMBER racks, with speculation that there's room to push that to 22 eventually before they run out of space.
She is a big girl, so different the fight than the Viper , but Im honored to have flown her. The Eagle was My dad's dream as a F-106 IWS Instructor at Tyndall when she first showed on the ramp... Glad she is still in the fight, and improving.
I went to the Mass. National Guard Airshow last year and my daughter and I were walking up to the entrance by the end of the runway when two side by side F-15s went ballistic staight up from us. Holy God was that loud!!!!
I saw this F-15QA demo at RIAT RAF Fairford back in July. They flew both a clean airframe and a fully loaded second airframe. As an observer, I saw very little difference in both displays as far as any performance penalty that the AMRAAMS had on the airframe. That doesn’t mean to say that perhaps the pilot needed to yank harder on the stick or add a bit more power at certain phases of the demo. I noted a slight lag in the initial take off performance given the extra weight but the new fly-by-wire system soon took care of that. Overall my favourite performance of the show and an aircraft to be afraid of in the combat arena.
Saw all their displays at RIAT 2024, across the week-end, and they were easily one of the highlights of the show. Especially when they flew with a full load of 12 AMRAAM's.
Ever thought of having Hasard Lee on? Great content as always!
Eagle is officially twin six-shooter status! 🤠
It's surprising with the f-15 being one of the more successful and versatile aircraft in our arsenal that we don't see them performing at air shows very often
Now I want the F14 Advanced.
In DCS, we call this sort of loadout SPAMRAAMAZON Prime.
I know none of the DCS jets can hold 12 AMRAAM's, but whenever we Load up the max number of AMRAAM's a given jet can carry. it becomes SPAMRAAMAZON Prime
The F/A-18C can carry a comparable loadout (10x AIM-120 and 2x AIM-9). Might not be all AMRAAMs but still 12 missiles total and the EX gives up the two AIM-9s to get the full 12 AMRAAMs (or could just go with the same exact loadout the F/A-18C can use). I know the Super Hornet can load 12x AIM-120s as well but like the EX it is not in DCS (without mods), and is sluggish compared to the EX with that loadout.
@@NuclearFalcon146 yea I mean I've definitely flown on Hoggit GAW with 10 AMRAAM's in a Hornet before 😂
@@NuclearFalcon146technically, the EX can load more than 12 AMRAAM's. I think early on they were talking about up to 20. Of course... That much drag and weight might not be ideal.
@@brianwright9514 It was 22, but that would be a VERY heavy load and would require a VERY target rich environment to justify using.
@@NuclearFalcon146 It would also be a huge waste if shot down, and the AIM-120 doesn't have the range to keep the F-15 outside the engagement range of potential enemy fighters.
Yup that was pretty awesome. The new-15’s are a game changer.
I'm an IP at Al Ubeid and they fly them every day. The training area is pretty tight and we all have to share it. Pretty funny to see one of these doing low level in the same area we are doing our stuff, lol.
Absolutely correct about the need of F-15's after initial Seed(?) Missions.
SEAD
I live in the Portland area and the air guard guys flying out of pdx just got the first F15Es and they are pretty bad ass.
When it absolutely, positively, has to be there on time...
this just shows how good McDonnell Douglas was at building aircraft before the merger, they built the F-15 so well that even Boeing giving it its best shot can't screw it up.
Boeing also built fantastic aircraft before the merger and it’s fairly well reported that McDonnell Douglas execs were the ones in charge of the new boeing
Witnessed this display at RIAT this year. Incredible to see. Just how far ahead of their time were the original designers of the Eagle ?
And my badass Apaches, they are also awesome
The F15 Eagle 🦅 has always been the best looking aircraft to me.
Got to watch that from my office window everyday of FIA
I watched the F-15QA display each day at the Royal international Air Tattoo in July. Both the clean aircraft and the missile truck performed each day, plus they both did validation displays before the public days. So, I think I saw them perform maybe 8 times. It reminded me of the Ukrainian Flanker display in a lot of ways. All about a big imposing aircraft being thrown around and looking a beast. Nowhere near as agile as the lighter fighters, not disappointing but I preferred the Danish F-16 display to be honest. Air show flying isn’t really the Eagles forte. It works for the Raptor because it’s a beast in every domain.
So simple concept. Take an excellent already in service fighter that's still in production, adapt state of the art new technology and updates to it and make it current time capable part of the fleet for MILLIONS less than the bloated F35. There is no reason all current F-16s, F-18s and F-15s that time out couldn't be replaced with these updated craft, let alone a proper trainer to replace the T-38. Great video. Something tells me the reason Boeing's Airline quality issues haven't bled into the F-15 or F-18 is probably because of the excellent local leadership and staff at that St. Louis plant (McDonnell Douglas leftover standards being maintained).
Nice to know Boeing is still able to build an aircraft that lands with all the parts it took off with.
"You could just spam-ram, the AMRAAMS" cracked me up. I hate quoting people, cause we all heard wth you said? But that one was worth keeping, lol.
That has been a saying in the DCS community for some time now.
@@Stubbies2003 Well, I'm getting old now, like... operation "Eagle Claw" old- so it's still nice to catch a few gems I've missed along the way, lol. Thx for your content. new to the channel, subbed.
The pitch meeting for the EX/QA program probably went something like this:
Boeing: “how many missiles do you want?”
Buyers: “you ever play Ace Combat?”
Boeing: “say no more.”
Saw the QAs demo at RIAT, oh my! Both loaded and clean configuration, it still performed to the same degree, remarkable machinery. As said, Boeing have had a rough time lately, but at least they’ve got this right.
LOVE the Eagle WITHOUT the EXCESS BAGGAES on the berry!!! 🤩
Think that QA was here at the FtL Airshow last May. Flew solo. This year was the Thunderbirds instead of the usual local(Pensacola) F/A 18’s Super Hornets. Wish the F-15 had an acrobatic team
My absolute favorite bird, and they just gave it 4 arms. Cant believe its not Lockheed.
Serious missile truck.
I remember 2 F-15's flying ovet Belgium many years ago. Belgium has F-16's so I was surprisex a bit. Turns out later they where chasing a pilotless Mig....
Did I hear Mover say he wants to be an Eagle-driver, as a missile truck?
You can't see it?
Hey WSO...
One Slammer, Ah ah ah ⚡⚡
TWO Slammers, Ah ah ah ⚡⚡
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Down here in Louisiana , I'm thinking NASBelleChase can accommodate a dozen of these Eagles? Great Segment Mover.
And that's probably the full 20mm drum also since its part of the CoG considerations. And the scary thing is the airframe still has the capacity, though maybe not the same G-load limit, to carry the CFTs, the targeting pods and three drop tanks for a really long loiter as an amraam truck. And we don't know (publically) if there's any efforts going on to intergrate the AIM-174b onto the F-15EX yet as its a navy led missile program and they focused on making it work with the Super Hornet. It does have the capability for the AIM-260 but the 174b while slower should reach out further.
I was working on the Amraam during th mid eighties with Hughes. Still going.
Wonder if the plan is to have this be a missile boat parked 100 nm away, while a F-22 or F-35 gets lock and ID.
My grandfather was project manager at Hughes Aircraft for the AMRAAM. Miss you granddad, glad your work is still flourishing.
The QA is for Qatar, they don’t have F22 or F35.
The EX is truly in a league of it's own, not quite an F-22 but is definitely the pit bull in the corner the the enemy must consider because she's coming at you and there's nothing you can do about it.
Oh, the QA can carry that many too?! I love the agility improvements too, nearing thrust vectoring maneuverability.
Got to see its debut at Spirit of STL. Thing is a freakin monster. I'm a Boeing simp now.
Well I hate to bust that notion but they bought it when they bought McDonnell Douglas. It was capable of many of these things all the way back then when it was designed. McD even designed the strike eagle in house before the airforce asked for it.
The F-15EX is based on the F-15QA, just speced out for the USAF.
Beast mode
They totally entered IDSPISPOPD. Reminds me of Falcon 3.0 Instant Action with unlimited ammo.
Saw this at riat 24 was a amazing display and saw it do a tail slide
Outstanding ....
The Quality Assurance model 😂
Another good video , thanks !
About the 2:03 mark, crew chief reaching hp for the good luck touch?
About the 2:59 mark , shows, per my USN and curmudgeonly engineering skills , 12 AMRAAMS, in credible ! Some latter closeups show that too, no doubt to *show* maneuvering with the load-out ..... but , could it carry more ? 😉
You should check out the video of the demo this did at RIAT, it's on the same channel as the CF-18 demo you did a bit on the other week.
Great video
So much for needing B-1s as missile karts!
Have you flown the F15 (any variant)? Why did they continue to build F15 and not F14, very similar looking. Love your channel!
There was an international market for F-15s and no one except Iran wanted the F-14.
Having large spaces to upgrade components is the advantage of building a large fighter as opposed to a midsize or small one.
I agree, as great as 5th gen is, we still need the 4th gen for volume and availability.
4:44 to 6 minute mark range in video he makes great points on why 4.5 gen are needed to back up 5th gen.
New Missle Truck for the Air Force
When an F-15 shows up and says “Say when.”
Watching the way it manuvers i would've thought it had thrust vectoring or something.
huge BOINK! logo in the end lmao
People talk a lot of smack about McDonnell Douglas. And how their merger ruined Boeing.
But the F-15 was done right from the start. It only needed a little love after 50 years to bring it into the current state of the art, among the 4.5 gens.
Why don’t they just make a Boeing 737 variant that carries like 150 AIM-120s or something in a big rotary missile bay and just throws them in waves at the enemy?
Like just an airborne guided missile destroyer
If you're going to convert an airliner to spam AAMs, you _really_ want something with longer range than an AIM-120 - otherwise all you've done is create another big, slow, high-value target. AIM-174B might be starting to get into the ballpark.
There was a plan in the 1980s to do that with a 747.
A Bone would be a better choice. But I believe the USAF intends to do this with the B-21 Raider hence its gigachad radar
@@Philistine47 someone has to ask it atleast once. I wonder how many they could fit on the stratolaunch. It'd be like the Spruce Goose and the C-5 had an offspring and the AC-130 was the uncle.
Bro, you could win so many medals with a single loadout. You'll look like a North Korean general after a few missions. Okay, jokes aside, serious military question, will this break DCS competitive multiplayer?
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@@CWLemoine Two fully loaded F-15QA with SPAMRAAM could pretty much take out our entire South African Gripen fighter force in a single sortie. That's nuts. We should buy these in case we go to war with Antarctica (they've been giving us the cold shoulder lately).
Missile Truck arrives
Now that is a SPAMRAAM
Seen a few DCS combats and it seems that in a full war it doesn't matter how many missiles, you still have to use guns sometimes. DCS isn't real life of course but i reckon it will be proved to be true