you missed a part... labels and booking agencies will often sign an artist to get them out of the way of artists they want to push... if you are competition for one of their artists, they will sign you and then push you off to the side to empower their favoured artist over you.
I believe this is what happened to DMX when Jay-Z was running Def Jam back in the early 2000s. X said at one point his albums weren’t being pushed as much and he believed it was because he was Jay’s competition at the time.
@@_Alimm Majiid Jordan is nowhere near as good as the Weeknd LMAO 😂 Drake working with the Weeknd and them splitting was years before Majid Jordan entering the picture.
@@anothermalex look at the way music is being listened today. In earlier years when steaming was first introduced it killed record sales. I think most artists get pennies unless your the big names. Now on a local level you could do local shows independently and get more. Just my observation coming from a music fanatic from the the 80 til now.
we really don't need labels anymore. I know enough Indie musicians who just got big on TH-cam or TikTok and never signed a contract, instead stayed unsigned to keep their money. I will say though, that once you are a big number on Tik Tok they will push you into signing a deal. they behave like pimps.just ignore them, once your song becomes big, copyright it via US copyright and you are good to go.
@@blveflame Being a celebrity in this day and age means nothing anymore. I rather have my fanbase and get paid via streams, than sign a contract. It is possible, and others are already doing it. But you must put yourself out there and be an artist and your PR team.
@@blveflame Don't get me wrong, and it's not against you but If you think you need a label to become a celebrity you don't really have what it takes in the first place. Labels are looking for people who have a certain characteristic and talent. If you can't pull it off without them, there is no reason for them to sign you, they do not foster artists like back in the day. As I said, they operate as pimps.
"copyright" your music and only record pre-"copyrighted" music in third-party studios. i cannot stress this enough.... don't record anything outside of your home-studio without a "copyright".
Wow this is first time that i'm hearing about this cuz being a broke introvert i do most of my recordings at home. This is a very valuable information as someday i might have to go record someplace else. Also, do you think just uploading my demo or instrumental on youtube or spotify before going outside would work as copyrighted ?
Do you know any good resources to read and learn about the music industry and all these processes by any chance? I really want it start making songs but I know nothing about the business side
I want to highlight the fact that even with the cheapest studio setup, you can produce high quality music nowadays! You don't need no fancy studio to make music, it's all about how good you are when it comes to mixing it and mastering it!
The big indie artist are only indie cus they can already afford to do so while some indie artists chose to sign cus they already have big project concents in mind and would rather use their million for it. It’s just choosing nice labels that give creative freedom. We can support those too I think
Thing people forget is most the artists out now are not proper artists. They are just the face of a product. The wrapper it comes in. The real artists and musicians are the ones behind the scene writing, playing, and producing everything. Then these artists get inflated egos. They forget that they are not the reason they got to where they are. They forget their place. If you are an artist that writes and plays your own stuff. All the power and best of wishes to you. But these artists now are frauds and most people are too slow to catch it. Some of the artists are so dumb they try to sue the record labels for "their" music. Then realize "oh yeah, I didn't write any of this stuff". It's always someone else's fault. Always the victim.
another unsung hero in the history of the music business, who gets taking advantage of. are Music Arrangers. Arrangers get NO royalties on the songs/records, they work on. just a ONE-time fee one each song they work on. in Country music, Pop, R&B and so forth. it is their Arrangements, music... that help that song sound better. and become BIG hits.
She is going to have to rebuild herself from the bottom, like tinashe. That is, if rca lets her go. They won't fund her projects, and even if she funds them, they won't release it.
New artist also don’t usually have “Connections” THATS what ur paying for. Anyone can get money & build a base but does that ensure radio play, does it make u famous, does it guarantee certain connections
Radio play it's useless nowadays, Spotify's playlists / being on viral tik toks are the real game changer when it comes to a song blowing up. If you hear a good song the first thing that comes to your mind is, "if this song was to be featured on a viral tik tok video, people would be obsessed with it".
It’s insane how much they influence and filter what’s going to be released, notice how when new music drops there will be a bunch of similar artists that drop their new albums all on the same date or in the same month. They decide what we are going to be listening to
I think there are many people who should see this. They would save so much time, money, and of course, of themselves too. I understand it's business, and I can't blame the music industry because of that, but still, if everybody does the same thing then how will someone stick out of the crowd and make profit for them. Uniqueness and a little originality never hurt. (And they can sell too, by the way and not just feed the creative soul of the artist)
TH-cam platform has help the Indie get they name heard. Music producers are on strike right now thinking we need them but in reality, you don't. It may take longer but at the end of the day u will be prouder of yourself when u do make it.
One thing to keep in mind when doing the “record deal is like a bank loan with worse terms” comparison is that the record advance doesn’t need to be paid back if the revenue just doesn’t cover it. If a label gives to an artist say a 250K advance, and the album totally stiffs and only brings in like 50K in revenue from the artist royalty over several years and the artist is then let go, the label just has to eat that difference as a loss and the artist is off the hook of having to come up with that money out of pocket. Whereas a bank will always come for that money no matter what. Labels are supremely shady and effed up, but it’s worth noting that. This is saying nothing of course about how the label is still pocketing 50-85% of every dollar earned anyway…
i didnt find out til my late 30s. People still think the dream is alive and real. that's why you see so many normies complaining when they hear this and they say "get a real job"
@@caseyjones3522same. I am in my late 30s as well and only found out about how corrupt the industry is about a year ago. We didn’t grow up with social media at our fingertips back in the day.
It's a shame that record labels have a monopoly on touring venues/deals ,radio and playlisting .. all essential to having an artist succeed.. it's like they want the only choice an artist to have is to sign to their terrible deals
I still think how bossy of a move was that Calvin Harris is the only songwriter and producer listed for Rihanna’s one of the biggest hits, we found love.😊
i think you’re worried about the wrong things, rihanna is now worth over a billion dollars and exploits people from 3rd world countries to manufacture her makeup, also if calvin harris WROTE the song and produced it why would rihanna be a producer or songwriter she just sang on the song…
The accuracy of that statement depends on what do you mean by big. You can choose the treshold arbitrarily to fit the statement. For example there are independent or one-person labels that can get 20 to 100 million views for a song on youtube.
everyone thought Spotify would democratize music and the exact opposite has happened bc listeners simply dont want to pay for music and maintain an MP3 library.
I understand why some artist are quick to sign and escape the struggle they're in but being a creative is a true test in patience in a society that needs artists but doesn't respect us. I rather come up super slow than get rich and popular fast through a fcked label contract.
I wanna use the fame to inspire and help others, there’s a lot of people who have the same dream as me, and if I have the chance I’ll help them achieve it, for the industry I would work with them, but not be under oath, but also a lot of artist have contracts that last a year, or certain number of songs or albums, I think that’s the best way to go, 5 years your already in your prime, and you can go from there
This reminds me when I heard that CORPSE had offers from labels and companies but didn't take them since he wanted full control and money. Are there any labels or exceptions where the artist is signed but doesn't get controlled/held back like the video describes?
I made a comment outlining step-by-step exactly how to make it, target your audience, set-up your e-mail game, use print-to-order merch, etc and my comment was erased. Interesting
I'd like to say that the Milton Friedman quote is just one way to look at business. The real reason for business is to serve some constituents. Via serving them, you will perhaps make profit. If you don't make profit, you won't survive. But if all you make is profit, you won't serve your constituents very well.
so you’re telling me you’re not hungry enough to push yourself? or surround yourself with trustworthy people that can help push you? you don’t need to damn label bro you really sipping the kool aid
@@tobiasrodrigues1 bro I know I need self motivation but being independent is tough you might have the talent but you'll never get the cash and most of them who are making it they were first signed but won't tell you that . After you're signed you get a team an dfree recording sessions
You don’t need labels anymore. There are disco bands who are self producing music they couldn’t get signed for in the 70s that sounds just as good as The Bee Gees. Same thing with books.
i’d rather a behind the scene job! more industry respect & better pay, with the luxury of a private life! we thought the main talent were the rich ones, let’s talk about those who sign their checks, the directors, the producers, i need THEIR tax brackets!
They complain about downloading and shame and threaten and accuse the public but it's like 'don't you dare pirate you're stealing from THE ARTIST. . . ugh, THAT'S OUR JOB' The banksters and the shylocks MONEY IS THEIR GOD
Interesting. I love hearing different opinions on this topic. Labels need to be open and honest w/ artists. Right from the jump, let artists know that they want the next Drake or Christopher Brown. Let artists know that they not gon see the kinda money they think they gon see. Let artists know that they only gon get a couple of years in the limelight. Let them know that they may have to pay a publicity firm $10K - $15K in order to keep they name circulating throughout social media. Basically, let them know that nothing is 100% guaranteed. Being open and honest basically eliminates all future stress and overwhelm. Labels need to quit telling artists that they have the potential to be the next Michael Jackson knowing good and gotdamn well that it takes millions of dollars to accomplish. Nah, streaming is dreaming so how do they plan on actually getting folks to BUY the music again? That's a huuuuuge problem that most artists face. Nobody has the answer because today's consumers are accustomed to free music. Actually buying music would legit solve the problem. Let's face it. If you can get it for free, you gon get it for free. Straight like that. I'm a '90s kid so I had the experience of going to a record store, buying the LP and establishing a physical attachment to the physical product. And lastly, what are labels gonna do about the recycled, microwave "music" that they keep plaguing the airwaves with? That should be squeezed into this equation as well because if the music sucks ass, that's gon be a problem whenever the artist gets ready to do shows.
Not just Lucien Grainge, iriving Azoff, Shelli Azoff and Jeffrey Azoff. They treat Harry styles like family and he's their golden goose so he seems to be treated equally as his bosses, he must be the only happy person in music industry. But i could be wrong and find that hus situation is more similar like Britney Spears 🤔
That’s the thing, he could’ve already been born into high society like ( SZA and Chance the Rapper) or he could very well be kin to his superiors and gets special treatment
@@marquethagod1769most of the mainstream musicians have already been living lavish with trust funds it’s unfair but frankly we can’t do anything about it
I’m aware of how the industry works and how predatory it is towards artists. The whole diddy controversy should open peoples eyes on why you don’t want to be famous.
Guys for me when I release my EP and albums and singles I will join indie label or just independent! Maybe sometime in the future please stream my music. I just want people to relate to it😞
So if this is the configuration of the industry,then how is one able to release a free album under contract,such as Travis Scott with his first two mixtapes?
Depends on the deal - not every record deal is the same + trav was with an indie label in a mixtape era so it’s not that crazy . You can put out music free anywhere, just can’t monetize
If anyone’s doing that, it means they own the master and not the label. Probably a case by case situation with songs the label wouldn’t want or hasn’t signed.
what i don’t understand, is people who are stilll actively signing 360 slave deals… like wtf, are you slow…. you clearly learned nothing from past moguls
@@danieltalebi1040 I’m finding it funny that she happened to be on a poster on the set of Venom for some reason. It was outside of a woman’s convenience store down the sidewalk a bit. That same photo.
Black Pink girls and Bruno Mars got contracts! They just need the right team! Indie or signed to a major. Labels sign thousands of artists who actually have little natural talent. Real talented artists who are also marketable are the ones that get pushed because a team of people at the label and outside, support them.
Please, reduce the music. It was wayyy wayyy too loud and hard to get the message. The message is Apt!!! I wanna know more, but the music has covered everywhere, I’m unsure of whether to listen to the music alone or the message alone. 5$: the message is more important!!! Than that Loud music!!!😞
You really MUST add References to the actual LABELS you are referring to. Because I and many other labels mainly indie micro boutique underground etc offer more favourable terms to the artists, discuss Artist Advances assist with FREE mentoring marketing and promotion to aid in ensuring the artist can obtain as much royalties as possible and its run like a partnership or team with 2 way consultation. You state you are . "The voice of truth in the digital age of the music industry." if so then you must reference all sources to backup your discussion Just becasue you say just becasue you put it on the internet does not mean its true. I operate transparently even to the point all artist will soon access complete royalty statement form distribution and see the breakdown of each royalty payment and bank their receipts when they want. No matter how digital the music industry gets label still have and will have important roles to play, and there will be artists who are better off not being on a label. Freedom to choose is how it should be which is why I and many other labels offer single sing. ep/ album contracts leaving artists free to release their next drop themselves or through another label. My splits are 40% label 60% artist/s. Includes a lot of free stuff including mentoring. I am getting tired of all this talk about 'evil labels' Yeah sure there are labels lke that out there but its mainly the large ones or smaller labels owned by the larger labels. Thanks for reading.
This whole "industry dark secrets exposed" vibe is ridiculous. Also, the label wants the artist to succeed. After all, they have invested on the artist.
💪🏾Everybody scared AI gon’ take their jobs. But let me tell ya, two jobs I’m glad AI gon’ wipe out: the accountant and the lawyer. Them two, they the weakest links for artists, and AI finna replace ‘em both.🤟🏾
These videos come out every month and say the same thing 😂 dunning kruger effect I swear. this is common knowledge at this point 100% labels have already adjusted the standard contract. TH-camrs don’t know anything that really happens behind the scenes. Also Labels have contacts in the marketing world. An Indie artist with a bank loan still will not be able to get on the radio or key marketing campaigns
Its called paying your dues. Getting onto a record label is good for everyone. You need a team to play in the big leagues. If you think you can do it all by yourself, you are a fool. Its like playing and winning the lottery...you can get lucky and pick the numbers on your own or you can have the insider information and get the big money with your team of manipulators to tell you what numbers to play and WIN BIG! Its your choice. Now if you are the type of person who pisses his/her money away, go work at BK or Walmart and stay away from the contracts. JMO
Why not just send all your music to someone who wants to release your music or send it to a friend and have them say its a "sample audio" or some random shit and having all the music you want out there and all the music the lable wants out there
you missed a part... labels and booking agencies will often sign an artist to get them out of the way of artists they want to push... if you are competition for one of their artists, they will sign you and then push you off to the side to empower their favoured artist over you.
I believe this is what happened to DMX when Jay-Z was running Def Jam back in the early 2000s. X said at one point his albums weren’t being pushed as much and he believed it was because he was Jay’s competition at the time.
Drake when he signed Majid Jordan and tried to sign The Weeknd
@@_Alimm Majiid Jordan is nowhere near as good as the Weeknd LMAO 😂 Drake working with the Weeknd and them splitting was years before Majid Jordan entering the picture.
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Game!😂
I don't wanna be famous I just wanna make a living from my talent 😢
right
Same.
EXACTLY
Chance the rapper
I feel you.
Become indie, I feel these labels will crash and indie will be the future as the 2000's proved this.
You don't know how powerful and connected they are to government, Mafia etc look up Azoff his begging with Mafia and his business connections
Can you say more about how the 2000s proved this?
@@anothermalex look at the way music is being listened today. In earlier years when steaming was first introduced it killed record sales. I think most artists get pennies unless your the big names. Now on a local level you could do local shows independently and get more. Just my observation coming from a music fanatic from the the 80 til now.
Totally agree!! I'm excited for this too haha - mainstream music needs to take a backseat...
Yea
we really don't need labels anymore. I know enough Indie musicians who just got big on TH-cam or TikTok and never signed a contract, instead stayed unsigned to keep their money. I will say though, that once you are a big number on Tik Tok they will push you into signing a deal. they behave like pimps.just ignore them, once your song becomes big, copyright it via US copyright and you are good to go.
Depends on your goals. If you want to become a (well-known) celebrity there is no way around signing those contracts.
@@blveflame true, becoming famous on tiktok will probably only be short term too, idk, that's just what I heard
@@blveflame Being a celebrity in this day and age means nothing anymore. I rather have my fanbase and get paid via streams, than sign a contract. It is possible, and others are already doing it. But you must put yourself out there and be an artist and your PR team.
@@Pikachu-o2j Like I said: it depends on one’s personal goals. And I wouldn’t go as far to generalizing celebrities are meaningless.
@@blveflame Don't get me wrong, and it's not against you but If you think you need a label to become a celebrity you don't really have what it takes in the first place. Labels are looking for people who have a certain characteristic and talent. If you can't pull it off without them, there is no reason for them to sign you, they do not foster artists like back in the day. As I said, they operate as pimps.
this is why i’m indie. i’m just waiting for people to actually stream my music 😂
Where do I go to discover indie artists?
"copyright" your music and only record pre-"copyrighted" music in third-party studios.
i cannot stress this enough.... don't record anything outside of your home-studio without a "copyright".
Wow this is first time that i'm hearing about this cuz being a broke introvert i do most of my recordings at home. This is a very valuable information as someday i might have to go record someplace else.
Also, do you think just uploading my demo or instrumental on youtube or spotify before going outside would work as copyrighted ?
how do you get a copyright?
Do you know any good resources to read and learn about the music industry and all these processes by any chance? I really want it start making songs but I know nothing about the business side
Why?
I want to highlight the fact that even with the cheapest studio setup, you can produce high quality music nowadays! You don't need no fancy studio to make music, it's all about how good you are when it comes to mixing it and mastering it!
SUPPORT INDIE ARTISTS
Melanie Martinez 😍💅🏻💋
@@Fra93TheGrande she isn't indie, she is signed to Atlantic Records.
The big indie artist are only indie cus they can already afford to do so while some indie artists chose to sign cus they already have big project concents in mind and would rather use their million for it. It’s just choosing nice labels that give creative freedom. We can support those too I think
Thing people forget is most the artists out now are not proper artists. They are just the face of a product. The wrapper it comes in. The real artists and musicians are the ones behind the scene writing, playing, and producing everything. Then these artists get inflated egos. They forget that they are not the reason they got to where they are. They forget their place. If you are an artist that writes and plays your own stuff. All the power and best of wishes to you. But these artists now are frauds and most people are too slow to catch it. Some of the artists are so dumb they try to sue the record labels for "their" music. Then realize "oh yeah, I didn't write any of this stuff". It's always someone else's fault. Always the victim.
Prince tried to tell us all. Yet when he wrote “SLAVE“ on face they said he was crazy .
another unsung hero in the history of the music business, who gets taking advantage of. are Music Arrangers. Arrangers get NO royalties on the songs/records, they work on. just a ONE-time fee one each song they work on. in Country music, Pop, R&B and so forth. it is their Arrangements, music... that help that song sound better. and become BIG hits.
Right, arrangers are SO underrated 😢 they are the reason songs are so catchy
This is how I feel about Normani. People just don’t understand
Wow I thought of Normani too i really think she could've been a bigger artist
@@bt3i861 you notice how carefully she chooses her words. Sad. I know she is capable of greater but she has to bite her tongue
Same, i thought of her immediately.
She is going to have to rebuild herself from the bottom, like tinashe. That is, if rca lets her go. They won't fund her projects, and even if she funds them, they won't release it.
Normani mocked Asians
New artist also don’t usually have “Connections” THATS what ur paying for. Anyone can get money & build a base but does that ensure radio play, does it make u famous, does it guarantee certain connections
Radio play it's useless nowadays, Spotify's playlists / being on viral tik toks are the real game changer when it comes to a song blowing up. If you hear a good song the first thing that comes to your mind is, "if this song was to be featured on a viral tik tok video, people would be obsessed with it".
@@EclesysGalaxyIt still costs money to tip the algorithm in their favor. There are entire vids about how record labels manipulate Spotify
Empowering artists is SO important!! Thank you for making these videos!
It’s insane how much they influence and filter what’s going to be released, notice how when new music drops there will be a bunch of similar artists that drop their new albums all on the same date or in the same month. They decide what we are going to be listening to
I think there are many people who should see this. They would save so much time, money, and of course, of themselves too. I understand it's business, and I can't blame the music industry because of that, but still, if everybody does the same thing then how will someone stick out of the crowd and make profit for them. Uniqueness and a little originality never hurt. (And they can sell too, by the way and not just feed the creative soul of the artist)
you can blame the government for not having better regulations for creative content.
Reminds me of RAYE. Poor girl
What happened?
TH-cam platform has help the Indie get they name heard. Music producers are on strike right now thinking we need them but in reality, you don't. It may take longer but at the end of the day u will be prouder of yourself when u do make it.
Thanks for keeping it 7 minutes long. Most creators think we need 20 - 30 minutes of them bloviating. Nah, 3 to 5ish minutes does it.
One thing to keep in mind when doing the “record deal is like a bank loan with worse terms” comparison is that the record advance doesn’t need to be paid back if the revenue just doesn’t cover it. If a label gives to an artist say a 250K advance, and the album totally stiffs and only brings in like 50K in revenue from the artist royalty over several years and the artist is then let go, the label just has to eat that difference as a loss and the artist is off the hook of having to come up with that money out of pocket. Whereas a bank will always come for that money no matter what. Labels are supremely shady and effed up, but it’s worth noting that. This is saying nothing of course about how the label is still pocketing 50-85% of every dollar earned anyway…
Actually you be very lucky if a label lets you go with a debt. More likely you stay on contract til term ends or sales balance.
I wouldn't call any of this a secret. Might be surprising for a kid hoping to get into the industry though
i didnt find out til my late 30s. People still think the dream is alive and real. that's why you see so many normies complaining when they hear this and they say "get a real job"
@@caseyjones3522same. I am in my late 30s as well and only found out about how corrupt the industry is about a year ago. We didn’t grow up with social media at our fingertips back in the day.
It's a shame that record labels have a monopoly on touring venues/deals ,radio and playlisting .. all essential to having an artist succeed.. it's like they want the only choice an artist to have is to sign to their terrible deals
I still think how bossy of a move was that Calvin Harris is the only songwriter and producer listed for Rihanna’s one of the biggest hits, we found love.😊
i think you’re worried about the wrong things, rihanna is now worth over a billion dollars and exploits people from 3rd world countries to manufacture her makeup, also if calvin harris WROTE the song and produced it why would rihanna be a producer or songwriter she just sang on the song…
No big artist would be where they are without the major label they are signed to.
The accuracy of that statement depends on what do you mean by big. You can choose the treshold arbitrarily to fit the statement. For example there are independent or one-person labels that can get 20 to 100 million views for a song on youtube.
I’m a simple woman, I see Kali Uchis, I open the video 😂😍🔥💅🏻💋
Lol, you got me laughing 😂
🙏🏾😅
im a simple man
Keep uploading videos like this and u got a sub for life
And also, keep them short. 7 mins or less and you'll keep me.
Keep these coming !!
SPOT ON!
everyone thought Spotify would democratize music and the exact opposite has happened bc listeners simply dont want to pay for music and maintain an MP3 library.
Just cuz u get money from the bank tho doesn’t mean u have the connections to still use that money wisely
You've just earned a sub and a like, my man!
this isn’t even a music specific problem, all entertainment sucks.
I always wished I'd be wealthy and living a peaceful free life under the radar.
That is why if you want to be famous be your own boss i respect that
Nice debut!! Keep going! 🤌🏽
I understand why some artist are quick to sign and escape the struggle they're in but being a creative is a true test in patience in a society that needs artists but doesn't respect us. I rather come up super slow than get rich and popular fast through a fcked label contract.
The algorithm strikes again.
But the the music in the video is too loud we can’t hear the good message.😢
I wanna use the fame to inspire and help others, there’s a lot of people who have the same dream as me, and if I have the chance I’ll help them achieve it, for the industry I would work with them, but not be under oath, but also a lot of artist have contracts that last a year, or certain number of songs or albums, I think that’s the best way to go, 5 years your already in your prime, and you can go from there
I think we can admit the industry is on its last limb. Ever since mj shi was never the same for ppls that signed
Nice work. This is beautiful and I love Kali Uchis!
This reminds me when I heard that CORPSE had offers from labels and companies but didn't take them since he wanted full control and money. Are there any labels or exceptions where the artist is signed but doesn't get controlled/held back like the video describes?
I made a comment outlining step-by-step exactly how to make it, target your audience, set-up your e-mail game, use print-to-order merch, etc and my comment was erased.
Interesting
Weird
Wow that was very informative
I'd like to say that the Milton Friedman quote is just one way to look at business. The real reason for business is to serve some constituents. Via serving them, you will perhaps make profit. If you don't make profit, you won't survive. But if all you make is profit, you won't serve your constituents very well.
Bandcamp! Support artists there.
Music labels are there to push you , i wanna be signed and get famous and then walk out when the contract expires
LOL 🤣 GOOD LUCK👍
so you’re telling me you’re not hungry enough to push yourself? or surround yourself with trustworthy people that can help push you? you don’t need to damn label bro you really sipping the kool aid
doesn't work like that. the most famous artist are forced to sign new contracts
You're lucky if they give a shit about you after signing you. If you can't motivate yourself you might as well give up now.
@@tobiasrodrigues1 bro I know I need self motivation but being independent is tough you might have the talent but you'll never get the cash and most of them who are making it they were first signed but won't tell you that .
After you're signed you get a team an dfree recording sessions
You don’t need labels anymore. There are disco bands who are self producing music they couldn’t get signed for in the 70s that sounds just as good as The Bee Gees. Same thing with books.
My best advice to anyone reading this, don’t sign to a contract to a music label and if you are doing anything be prepared, be smart and have a team
i’d rather a behind the scene job! more industry respect & better pay, with the luxury of a private life! we thought the main talent were the rich ones, let’s talk about those who sign their checks, the directors, the producers, i need THEIR tax brackets!
_"Potter isn't selling. Potter's buying! And why? Because we're panicking and he's not."_
- George Bailey
All I would want is to just make music and connect with people. It ain’t even about the fame and money for me
They complain about downloading and shame and threaten and accuse the public but it's like 'don't you dare pirate you're stealing from THE ARTIST. . . ugh, THAT'S OUR JOB' The banksters and the shylocks MONEY IS THEIR GOD
Interesting. I love hearing different opinions on this topic. Labels need to be open and honest w/ artists. Right from the jump, let artists know that they want the next Drake or Christopher Brown. Let artists know that they not gon see the kinda money they think they gon see. Let artists know that they only gon get a couple of years in the limelight. Let them know that they may have to pay a publicity firm $10K - $15K in order to keep they name circulating throughout social media. Basically, let them know that nothing is 100% guaranteed. Being open and honest basically eliminates all future stress and overwhelm. Labels need to quit telling artists that they have the potential to be the next Michael Jackson knowing good and gotdamn well that it takes millions of dollars to accomplish. Nah, streaming is dreaming so how do they plan on actually getting folks to BUY the music again? That's a huuuuuge problem that most artists face. Nobody has the answer because today's consumers are accustomed to free music. Actually buying music would legit solve the problem. Let's face it. If you can get it for free, you gon get it for free. Straight like that. I'm a '90s kid so I had the experience of going to a record store, buying the LP and establishing a physical attachment to the physical product. And lastly, what are labels gonna do about the recycled, microwave "music" that they keep plaguing the airwaves with? That should be squeezed into this equation as well because if the music sucks ass, that's gon be a problem whenever the artist gets ready to do shows.
if they're open and honest then they can't control you. this is by design.
So if a artist is given a loan by the label, but they manage to save some of it, are they obliged to return the remaining amount?
Great video!
Yep. Exactly, I was once famous but poor! What is the point?!?! Just be a TH-camr. If you do well, 💰 is all YOURS TO KEEP! 🤑
Kinda explains why Rubi rose is now doing onlyfans
Exactly , she needs to make her own money 😢
Might regret this but go listen to my new song “Bottom of the Sea”!! Definitely not mainstream but also definitely from the depths of my soul💙
I support you sister
Well summarised 🙂👍
Not just Lucien Grainge, iriving Azoff, Shelli Azoff and Jeffrey Azoff. They treat Harry styles like family and he's their golden goose so he seems to be treated equally as his bosses, he must be the only happy person in music industry.
But i could be wrong and find that hus situation is more similar like Britney Spears 🤔
That’s the thing, he could’ve already been born into high society like ( SZA and Chance the Rapper) or he could very well be kin to his superiors and gets special treatment
@@marquethagod1769SZA and Chance? Do tell..
@@marquethagod1769most of the mainstream musicians have already been living lavish with trust funds it’s unfair but frankly we can’t do anything about it
@@SomeOldHeadOnGas I mean that’s what I just said.
@@marquethagod1769 didn't realise SZA and Chance the Rapper grew up in high society?!
Never going to sign with a label!
You don't really have a choice 😢
@@emmanuel2631 why wouldn’t i have a choice?
@@neuronist it's not even a debate, the older you grow, you'll understand
@@emmanuel2631 i‘m old, can you help me understand?
I’m aware of how the industry works and how predatory it is towards artists. The whole diddy controversy should open peoples eyes on why you don’t want to be famous.
lol I saw Kali on the picture and I had thought “she’s definitely a sell out, inauthentic, plastic and lying about it and insecure “
;-;
Reminds me of Normani 😢
Guys for me when I release my EP and albums and singles I will join indie label or just independent! Maybe sometime in the future please stream my music. I just want people to relate to it😞
Well made
Good video
So if this is the configuration of the industry,then how is one able to release a free album under contract,such as Travis Scott with his first two mixtapes?
Depends on the deal - not every record deal is the same + trav was with an indie label in a mixtape era so it’s not that crazy . You can put out music free anywhere, just can’t monetize
If anyone’s doing that, it means they own the master and not the label.
Probably a case by case situation with songs the label wouldn’t want or hasn’t signed.
Someone should make a label that does not rip of his artist
clay irwin on bandcamp great music u have 2 hear 4 yourself
I don’t want fame… I just want my music to be heard. I don’t want attention. It sucks that both are intertwined.
what i don’t understand, is people who are stilll actively signing 360 slave deals… like wtf, are you slow…. you clearly learned nothing from past moguls
fame is a curse btw…
Such good content🤌🏾
Is Kali Uchis signed to a label? If so, how's she able to release songs dissing the label?
The artist know the game…they want the fame
I swear I recognized that thumbnail face while watching Venom, now I see it here. Is that RAYE? Who the hell is that?
Kali Uchis
@@danieltalebi1040 I’m finding it funny that she happened to be on a poster on the set of Venom for some reason. It was outside of a woman’s convenience store down the sidewalk a bit. That same photo.
Black Pink girls and Bruno Mars got contracts! They just need the right team! Indie or signed to a major. Labels sign thousands of artists who actually have little natural talent. Real talented artists who are also marketable are the ones that get pushed because a team of people at the label and outside, support them.
Sounds like they just take the advantage of musicisns' following their passion
Exactly my bro
Please, reduce the music. It was wayyy wayyy too loud and hard to get the message. The message is Apt!!! I wanna know more, but the music has covered everywhere, I’m unsure of whether to listen to the music alone or the message alone. 5$: the message is more important!!! Than that Loud music!!!😞
This is more predominant in hiphop by my understanding, of course, I could be wrong. But it's people like Diddy that are the worst.
Go stream Poca Nova - Getting To It 🔥🔥🔥🔥
You really MUST add References to the actual LABELS you are referring to. Because I and many other labels mainly indie micro boutique underground etc offer more favourable terms to the artists, discuss Artist Advances assist with FREE mentoring marketing and promotion to aid in ensuring the artist can obtain as much royalties as possible and its run like a partnership or team with 2 way consultation. You state you are . "The voice of truth in the digital age of the music industry." if so then you must reference all sources to backup your discussion Just becasue you say just becasue you put it on the internet does not mean its true. I operate transparently even to the point all artist will soon access complete royalty statement form distribution and see the breakdown of each royalty payment and bank their receipts when they want. No matter how digital the music industry gets label still have and will have important roles to play, and there will be artists who are better off not being on a label. Freedom to choose is how it should be which is why I and many other labels offer single sing. ep/ album contracts leaving artists free to release their next drop themselves or through another label. My splits are 40% label 60% artist/s. Includes a lot of free stuff including mentoring. I am getting tired of all this talk about 'evil labels' Yeah sure there are labels lke that out there but its mainly the large ones or smaller labels owned by the larger labels. Thanks for reading.
u SOOO polite!!!!
btw all money labels use on your budget for the MVs etc will have to be paid back by YOU
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🙌🏽 good call
Why did you put Kali Uchis on the thumbnail
Cuz she’s a victim of this
@@KingstonTine-in5qp he could’ve explained it in the video that’s what I was hoping to learn about
Poor babe 😫💔 I love her so much she deserves better
Sky Ferreira’s career basically
Here two days after the election… Sadly, we are the same people
This whole "industry dark secrets exposed" vibe is ridiculous. Also, the label wants the artist to succeed. After all, they have invested on the artist.
frank ocean finessed this system
Milton Fredman lied
Wish there was a repost button
Eric Roberson, who's not even a good singer (my opinion of course), is making money as an independent artist. Be like him if you're doing music.
Can u make a video about the payola that some white artist use to be known without having hits?
If anyone is using payola its definitely not white artists in america lol its a majority white people, they sell way better
is this the content people go to when a label rejects their demo
💪🏾Everybody scared AI gon’ take their jobs. But let me tell ya, two jobs I’m glad AI gon’ wipe out: the accountant and the lawyer. Them two, they the weakest links for artists, and AI finna replace ‘em both.🤟🏾
theyll just progam the AI to be as shady i see it as lose lose
These videos come out every month and say the same thing 😂 dunning kruger effect I swear. this is common knowledge at this point 100% labels have already adjusted the standard contract. TH-camrs don’t know anything that really happens behind the scenes.
Also Labels have contacts in the marketing world. An Indie artist with a bank loan still will not be able to get on the radio or key marketing campaigns
Its called paying your dues. Getting onto a record label is good for everyone. You need a team to play in the big leagues. If you think you can do it all by yourself, you are a fool. Its like playing and winning the lottery...you can get lucky and pick the numbers on your own or you can have the insider information and get the big money with your team of manipulators to tell you what numbers to play and WIN BIG! Its your choice. Now if you are the type of person who pisses his/her money away, go work at BK or Walmart and stay away from the contracts. JMO
f labels, cheers.
Why not just send all your music to someone who wants to release your music or send it to a friend and have them say its a "sample audio" or some random shit and having all the music you want out there and all the music the lable wants out there
Bruh what?