The Oldest Known Venomous Land Predator?

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  • The extraordinary Euchambersia, an ancient relative of mammals, might have had a deadly venomous bite. Join us as we search for more evidence of this fascinating animal in the Karoo semi-desert of South Africa and explore what makes this creature so remarkable.
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ความคิดเห็น • 306

  • @pandacidalmaniac2439
    @pandacidalmaniac2439 ปีที่แล้ว +390

    Did Doug ever recover from the desert madness? Or is he still seeing dinosaurs to this day?

    • @mastathrash5609
      @mastathrash5609 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      You can't imagine what it's like! It's like ...it's like...you can only see dinosaurs!

    • @crabclaw_
      @crabclaw_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mastathrash5609 and pigs

    • @saalkz.a.9715
      @saalkz.a.9715 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      But... But, dinosaurs are real and around us (somewhere)... They always steal your socks, but only the left one.
      PS.: That wasn't a pig, it was a Pigosaurus Baconensis!

    • @ZeFroz3n0ne907
      @ZeFroz3n0ne907 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@saalkz.a.9715 When you said the part about the socks I had the scene from HTTYD in my head, Gobber's lines haha.
      Also, "RAAAAAAGH! Mornin'!"

    • @jacobv3396
      @jacobv3396 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      He's "walking with dinosaurs". *ba dum ts*

  • @AlbertaGeek
    @AlbertaGeek ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Thing is, though, if Doug was pointing at birds when he was saying "There's a dinosaur!", he's not actually wrong.

  • @persianking44
    @persianking44 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    In an alternate universe, Ben and Doug getting lost would have led them to the discovery of a complete Euchambersia skeleton with evidence of venom glands, while Doug randomly pointing out where the dinosaurs were, were in fact exactly where some complete and nearly complete dinosaur skeletons were lol

  • @Cat_Woods
    @Cat_Woods ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "We're not lost. They're lost."
    Iconic.

  • @Denuhm
    @Denuhm ปีที่แล้ว +201

    I grew up in this part of south africa and I would've loved to look for fossils there. Sadly my family are staunch creationists and any fossils I brought home were from the flood, 6000 years ago so I stopped - these days I live very close to Lyme Regis and go find fossils every time there is a storm :)

    • @DardS8Br
      @DardS8Br ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What stuff did you find?

    • @danieljob3184
      @danieljob3184 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      What is more believable?
      1: the earth is only 6,000 years old?
      2: while the Greeks were masters of geometry & mathematics, they were a bit sh*t at other languages!?

    • @dr.floridaman4805
      @dr.floridaman4805 ปีที่แล้ว

      No creator?
      Lmao prove it. For real. You can't.
      You will see soon enough.
      As for the 6k year theory that is brainwashed indoctrination
      There was a huge deluge about 12.5k yrs ago. Flood mythos is real. Research any ancient culture around the world. The flood happened.
      Man is older than 1.8 million years. Aryan tooth found in Georgia Caucasus mountains region dated to 1.8 million year.
      You are limited by men who wrote books that you believe through faith. Your science is a cult

    • @nalinux
      @nalinux ปีที่แล้ว +23

      At least you didn't become creationist :)
      In the spanish part of Pyrennées mountains, we walk on so many oysters fossils we don't even pay attention.

    • @DardS8Br
      @DardS8Br ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@dr.floridaman4805 prove there is a creator

  • @thedoruk6324
    @thedoruk6324 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    Whether venomous or not we could all agree that it was the *goodest of the bois*

    • @stoned9874
      @stoned9874 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      yes we can

    • @thedoruk6324
      @thedoruk6324 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@stoned9874 It literally looks like an arcane ancient primordial golden or labrador retriever lol

    • @Kroggnagch
      @Kroggnagch ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I can agree it was the longest of faces

    • @wyvern723
      @wyvern723 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The first goodest boi?

    • @stoned9874
      @stoned9874 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@thedoruk6324 INNIT?! its adorable 😍

  • @TheAnimalKingdom-tq3sz
    @TheAnimalKingdom-tq3sz ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Lystrosaurus: "One shall stand!"
    Euchambersia: "One shall fall!"

    • @kahonk269
      @kahonk269 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Why throw away your life so recklessly?

    • @Christian_Sims
      @Christian_Sims ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@kahonk269 That's a question you should ask yourself Euchambersia

    • @the13inquisitor59
      @the13inquisitor59 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not a reference I would've expected, but one I can appreciate.

    • @ItachiTsukuyomi98
      @ItachiTsukuyomi98 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@the13inquisitor59 gotta love G1 Optimus Prime

  • @WaterShowsProd
    @WaterShowsProd ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Loved this episode. It's great to show the realities of field work, and it still remains very informative. While the idea of a sensory organ is intriguing, it doesn't take into account its position above the canines, nor the fold on the tooth itself; I think venom makes far more sense, or at least a digestive enzyme as there are no rear teeth for processing. Also, I think Doug should do his own adaptation of The Four Feathers.

    • @nalinux
      @nalinux ปีที่แล้ว

      Julien works for real :)

    • @liammurphy2725
      @liammurphy2725 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I really liked the little snippet on acquiring the perceptual vision needed for effective field work.

  • @TheHazza
    @TheHazza ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When Doug goes mad he becomes Australian.

  • @rileyernst9086
    @rileyernst9086 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I can't help but think that from looking for Lystrosaurus to searching for euchambersia you the expedition was ramped up in difficulty by several orders of magnitude.

  • @Albukhshi
    @Albukhshi ปีที่แล้ว +41

    @ 13:09
    Famous doesn't begin to describe this guy. He had a very colorful career as a paleontologist, adventurer, spy, and even tried to become king of Albania. I still remember reading about this guy, almost 15 years ago, and thinking "this guy was wild!"
    He isn't just famous for dinosaurs: guy was a pioneer in Paleobiology as we know it now, and island dwarfism.
    Illness eventually drove him to commit a murder-suicide in 1933.
    @17:22
    He's reminding me of Nigel Davenport's depiction of George III's madness...
    Yeah, it's a very niche reference, but trust me, it makes sense.

  • @uliuchu4318
    @uliuchu4318 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The Karoo sure has its own special beauty... I was there for a botanical excursion once. And desert madness is real. As a botanist it let's you see Lithops and Hydnoras everywhere... And I also found a tortoise skull. The killer could also be identified quickly by the burnt surroundings. That poor thing couldn't outrun a bush fire...

  • @danieltaylor5231
    @danieltaylor5231 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    How could you tell Doug was going insane? He seems just like normal for 3D Doug.

    • @mastathrash5609
      @mastathrash5609 ปีที่แล้ว

      OOooh!! SO MANY DINOSAURS BEN! 😆

    • @Andreas_42
      @Andreas_42 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mastathrash5609 Sounded more like dinosaw. Or dinosauce. 😁

    • @mastathrash5609
      @mastathrash5609 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Andreas_42 That's what you put on the dinosaur after you roasted it.

  • @RyanPHill77
    @RyanPHill77 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This series is fantastic. Not only do I get to see the day-to-day reality of paleontologist sin the field (I still partly regret not taking that route years ago), but my son can see it too (his future dream career)!

  • @pyrobeast_jack
    @pyrobeast_jack ปีที่แล้ว +6

    so jealous... i wanted to be a paleontologist so bad, but my physical disabilities would never permit such a career path for me :(
    it is quite fun watching and learning, though. thank you for bringing it to a place where so many can enjoy.

  • @fernbedek6302
    @fernbedek6302 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Well, they found some synapsid bones eventually. That’s good. Even if they’re a bit recent.

  • @lynnhayes2363
    @lynnhayes2363 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I always thought the first venomous dino-era animal would be in Australia. Good luck w your work!

  • @dylanwickund9109
    @dylanwickund9109 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I find the animals before and after the dinosaurs way more interesting

    • @mhdfrb9971
      @mhdfrb9971 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They all are equally interesting

    • @dylanwickund9109
      @dylanwickund9109 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mhdfrb9971 yes but my whole life up until i started doing my own research did i get to learn about more then just dinosaurs as a child until like 14 i didnt think there was anything before the dinosaurs and my whole life up until then even now is only dinosaurs on tv shows and movies which is cool i guess but i wish the other equally and more badass would get some screentime too besides the small documentaries

    • @mhdfrb9971
      @mhdfrb9971 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dylanwickund9109 sorry for my bad English

    • @LadyhawksLairDotCom
      @LadyhawksLairDotCom ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I find them _all_ interesting.

  • @ArtisticlyAlexis
    @ArtisticlyAlexis ปีที่แล้ว +35

    These videos have been more informative than most of the major production companies docs. I can't wait to see where you guys go next time!

  • @chumati1578
    @chumati1578 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Imagine if every location Doug pointed towards really had a dinosaur fossil embedded in them lol

  • @revolvermaster4939
    @revolvermaster4939 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was on the edge of my couch watching y’all ford that raging river

  • @Lillian2167
    @Lillian2167 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm so jealous, it must have been so exciting finding the fossils and trying to figure out what you'd found. :3

  • @J242D
    @J242D ปีที่แล้ว +2

    16:26 holy shit why is Doug’s American accent so goddamn clean LMFAOO

  • @Grautmann
    @Grautmann ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Glad you guys survived the perilous journey across half of africa to find your missing team-mates!

  • @grimmcreole44
    @grimmcreole44 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ben and Doug's excellent adventure is truly a blessing to this decaying platform

  • @ZeFroz3n0ne907
    @ZeFroz3n0ne907 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was not expecting the cardboard cutout, hahaha. Well played.

  • @MaryAnnNytowl
    @MaryAnnNytowl ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You bring us such interesting ancient critters to learn about! Thanks for what you do. ❤️❤️❣️

  • @alvaronavarro4895
    @alvaronavarro4895 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Oh wow what a treat of a video! Thank you guys for nurturing the passion of my Life!

  • @Cursethedawn
    @Cursethedawn ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I'm never quite sure if Doug enjoys paleontology or absolutely hates it.

  • @dylanwickund9109
    @dylanwickund9109 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is the stuff i love as people dont know some animals carry slight venoms

  • @ericl447
    @ericl447 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you guys for continuing to educate our world. You are a service to humanity. 👍

  • @rexmagi4606
    @rexmagi4606 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hunting for venemous monsters with Dr Nwah. Little did we know Ben was writing the script for Elder Scrolls 6.

  • @capnbeenieweenie5603
    @capnbeenieweenie5603 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love this series! Keep up the great work lads.

  • @oriondye3212
    @oriondye3212 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Assume they’re not counting arthropods or insects in the category if land predators.

  • @kuitaranheatmorus9932
    @kuitaranheatmorus9932 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These videos never fail to interested and expand my love for prehistory reat
    Hope you guys have a good day

  • @oyecomova5478
    @oyecomova5478 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic video, loved the journey!

  • @jacksonhiatt4174
    @jacksonhiatt4174 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Given the lack of teeth behind the canines, could the extra large salivary glands function as a means to lubricate large mouthfuls of food for ease of swallowing?

  • @astick5249
    @astick5249 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    17:11 I like how Ben in more concerned that Doug is seeing dinosaurs due to them being in a permian fossil site and not because he is seeing dinosaurs.

  • @zipsey
    @zipsey ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this channel

  • @WAMTAT
    @WAMTAT ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant series

  • @ltlbuddha
    @ltlbuddha ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Mr. Doug has got the madness, he does, Sir Ben. Is it off to Bedlam with him, then?"

  • @kaloarepo288
    @kaloarepo288 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The platypus of Australia is a mammal (non placental)that has a poisonous spur -only current mammal I can think of that is venomous.

    • @jake.g1
      @jake.g1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The slow loris too, there's probably not many but theres others.

    • @markshort9098
      @markshort9098 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's a lot more venomous mammals than you think.. a quick google search will surprise you

  • @rosekay5031
    @rosekay5031 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my favourite Ben Thomas upload

  • @AbuctingTacos
    @AbuctingTacos ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So refreshing to see real science being done

  • @craftycriminalistwithms.z3053
    @craftycriminalistwithms.z3053 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this I really enjoyed it all, I kit only learned somethings I also laughed super hard at you all, and I don’t laugh enough especially in watch videos, so thank you so very much ❤

  • @gafrers
    @gafrers ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome series

  • @WhiteNucklin
    @WhiteNucklin ปีที่แล้ว

    Dudes this is awesome!

  • @Tuishimi
    @Tuishimi ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun! Thanks for sharing.

  • @bluedragon219123
    @bluedragon219123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I said this on another video about this animal and I'll say it again: IT. LOOKS. SO. HAPPY! :)

  • @johnsamu
    @johnsamu ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Always fun to discuss if a poisonous animal is venomous or a venomous animal is poisonous 😉😁

    • @patreekotime4578
      @patreekotime4578 ปีที่แล้ว

      Venom is active and is typically injected. Poison is passive and just exists.

  • @TVAVStudios
    @TVAVStudios ปีที่แล้ว

    The "Damn." gag legit cracked me up. Well done.

  • @PowerScissor
    @PowerScissor ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wonder if anyone has studied the evolution of the monsters who put toilet paper rolls on backwards.
    Fascinating group of people, they are.

  • @fuccyahhat1229
    @fuccyahhat1229 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work boys 👍🏼

  • @stoneworld5962
    @stoneworld5962 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Entracte Science channel (from the french paleontologist in video) is one of my fav in french, great to see both Ben G Thomas and him in a video !

  • @veneraberens2547
    @veneraberens2547 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    COOL ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO WITH ON SITE TAPE

  • @steakfou5042
    @steakfou5042 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

  • @robrice7246
    @robrice7246 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was the synapsid that most likely appeared in the Triassic section from the Walking with Monsters episode "Clash of Titans".

  • @-_-thisnameiscreativeasfuc4734
    @-_-thisnameiscreativeasfuc4734 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doug turned into Bear Grylls for a little bit

  • @godslaughter
    @godslaughter ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ngl, I would have quite a hard time figuring out what's a rock and what's a Special Rock™, knowing that fossils are basically rocks. They're kinda like the shinies of the rock world.

  • @Turdfergusen382
    @Turdfergusen382 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ben you are wonderful

  • @herbertkeithmiller
    @herbertkeithmiller ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lions and spiders and rocks oh my

  • @tanyabreach6422
    @tanyabreach6422 หลายเดือนก่อน

    its not difficult getting lost in the New Forest. Thanks for being the Palaeontologists we needed for those of us interested but can't do it too.

  • @oisnowy5368
    @oisnowy5368 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fossils, fossils everywhere! And nary a drop of sanity...

  • @John.0z
    @John.0z ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How can we get a copy of the data to 3D print a copy of that Euchambersia skull???

  • @AlbertaGeek
    @AlbertaGeek ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Exactly what, in those wide-open expenses, was being hunted that a human was in danger of being mistaken for it?
    "It's a good thing that fellow was wearing a high-visibility vest, otherwise I could have sworn he was an elephant!"

  • @therealzilch
    @therealzilch ปีที่แล้ว

    The oldest known venemous land predator? Count me in.
    Great work as usual Lunch invitation still open.
    cheers from rainy Vienna, Scott

  • @patrickjanecke5894
    @patrickjanecke5894 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The yellow vests are okay, I guess, but I'd still feel much safer wearing blaze orange if there's a hunt going on.

  • @ticklemedaddy
    @ticklemedaddy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't see how that could be the "first" venomous predator, that's just a discord moderator

  • @fuckYTIDontWantToUseMyRealName
    @fuckYTIDontWantToUseMyRealName ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So Doug finally went off the deep end? I knew it would come eventually.

  • @michaelpytel3280
    @michaelpytel3280 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Perhaps it is Doug that is Venomous .

  • @robrice7246
    @robrice7246 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Here's an interesting question, when finding fossils would something like a portable gamma-ray detector work?

    • @theamorphousflatsch2699
      @theamorphousflatsch2699 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No, im not sure why you would think that.

    • @patrickjanecke5894
      @patrickjanecke5894 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably not. To my understanding, gamma emitting isotopes don't favor fossiliferous minerals.

    • @lazertuiyope
      @lazertuiyope ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting question

  • @laprankster3264
    @laprankster3264 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:50 “After making perilous crossings across vast bodies of water” now I can officially say that I have done so to impress my crush.

  • @sassa82
    @sassa82 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice drawings

  • @GhoulsMagnets
    @GhoulsMagnets 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:05 The scrublands of Cornwall are really beautiful, and who can forget about the dunes of Sussex

  • @jerryfrost8136
    @jerryfrost8136 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the evidence for Euchambersia being venomous, the grooved teeth and possible glands look similar to the Gila Monster. Not having molars suggests to me a cytotoxin to assist break down possible liquify flesh to aid in digestion. Watching the field work illustrates why all the time devoted to preparation is necessary to figuring fossils out. Do you and Doug do preparation or stick to the field?

  • @catfishcain
    @catfishcain ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When can we expect the last videos for this series to be posted?

  • @Invading-Specious
    @Invading-Specious ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you.

  • @duneydan7993
    @duneydan7993 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is there supposed to be a next episod or was I cliffhangered into oblivion?

    • @jurassicroom7673
      @jurassicroom7673 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's what I'm wondering did it end up as a Patreon exclusive? I don't see it addressed anywhere.

  • @SeverusFelix
    @SeverusFelix ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "We were on the hunt for a very different animal. . . MAN"
    Oh I thought this was going a different direction

  • @kamnale1317
    @kamnale1317 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    28:50 you could find some dinosaur bones tho, from ostriches for example

  • @herbertkeithmiller
    @herbertkeithmiller ปีที่แล้ว

    🦕🦖 now you've got me seeing them too

  • @charlesjmouse
    @charlesjmouse ปีที่แล้ว

    "Bah! I'll be shot if I go looking for any more fossils!"
    You may well be right ...

  • @froggyweathers9257
    @froggyweathers9257 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sweet Flippin video

  • @leechild4655
    @leechild4655 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If they had no mol;ars for chewing maybe the fossa contained a digestive juice rather than some venom though they may be two of the same thing?

  • @richardanderson8696
    @richardanderson8696 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These 'in the field' videos are good, but I think I actually prefer the previous narration-led style that focuses on packing in the information. But that's just me, and I appreciate you probably feel the need to grow and to evolve the way you produce these videos.

  • @Tripoderoo
    @Tripoderoo ปีที่แล้ว

    Euchambwrsia is so fascinating

  • @satanofficial3902
    @satanofficial3902 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Rocks are rocky. But not bullwinkle-y."
    ---Albert Einstein

  • @jthomas8263
    @jthomas8263 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ben and Doig, 🦖 Ancient eggshells show dinosaurs already dying out before asteroid strike, Chinese scientists say.

  • @everett8948
    @everett8948 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey what's up Ben, I'm loving the videos but I'm wondering why it is that Doug never makes an appearance. Unless you count the cardboard cutout with the badly timed mouth movement LOL!

  • @tofuteh2348
    @tofuteh2348 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it

  • @erichtomanek4739
    @erichtomanek4739 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doug Gone Wild in WashBang!?

  • @dylanwickund9109
    @dylanwickund9109 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So they may have vemom sacs? That so cool

  • @HebaruSan
    @HebaruSan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those vests are just creating selection pressure for all of the animals to turn bright yellow

  • @JoeSmith-vf9gz
    @JoeSmith-vf9gz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These guys could extrapolate a million years of history from a stone that I would skip across a pond.

  • @lucasgaudio3720
    @lucasgaudio3720 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So… you got lost in place that has lions on it…. That was a much more dire situation than you realized

  • @MikiBreki
    @MikiBreki ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice

  • @rileyernst9086
    @rileyernst9086 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lots of old bones, and dinosaurs getting around. Sounds very much like last time i was in the desert.

  • @teawrecks1243
    @teawrecks1243 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would synapsids have sweated milk, or a primitive analogue of it, similar to modern monotremes?

  • @SnootyFarkleboob
    @SnootyFarkleboob 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "that's what palaeontology is all about.... failure."
    I'm just trying to listen to something fun and cool while I slog away in the lab and you read me like this. 😭😭

  • @nalinux
    @nalinux ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see Julien here !
    For those who can understand french, his YT channel "Entracte science" is to see.
    Too bad he is not in the sources ...