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  • @SebbieSaurus22
    @SebbieSaurus22 9 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I want to say (as a bisexual ex-Mormon woman who couldn't admit it even to herself until age 23): You said it's rare for someone as young as your son to accept himself as gay, especially in the church. The fact that he can love himself speaks so well about the environment you raised him in. My hat is off to you for loving him so much that he doesn't struggle to love himself.

    • @rh8528
      @rh8528 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly.. .....

  • @gageloverne1015
    @gageloverne1015 9 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    These parents are absolutely amazing. It's wonderful to know that the world is full of great people.

  • @nmikloiche
    @nmikloiche 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I adore, “Well John, I don’t like tomatoes...”. I think this might be the best reaction to coming out to a parent I’ve ever heard. Congrats on being great parents. I struggled with being gay, and I had a very similar spiritual experience... I was praying hard and asking god for some type of sign, and never before and never since, I heard a voice say inside me “you are welcome in my kingdom” and it was over 25 years ago and I remember that night like it happened hours ago.

  • @Kurt843
    @Kurt843 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    These two Mormon parents are awesome! What a breath of fresh air! What a courageous young man as well!

  • @Lepewhi
    @Lepewhi 9 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I'm not Mormon, nor am I religious. But, these parents are special for any religion or non-religious.

    • @rh8528
      @rh8528 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said

  • @barnabuswizardspook
    @barnabuswizardspook 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    this is one of my favorite videos on the channel. i love the upbeat and progressive attitude

  • @michaelc.vargas4859
    @michaelc.vargas4859 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I appreciate Mormon stories on bridging the gaps together and unite people unto the love of Christ.

  • @BudGundyChannel
    @BudGundyChannel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The mother is very wrong about one major point. She said she is nothing special. She has no idea how special she is.

    • @tyronebiggums1047
      @tyronebiggums1047 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      she said that because she was fishing for thirsty men like you to compliment her in the comments section.

  • @rachelcoates9041
    @rachelcoates9041 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These two bring so many tears to my eyes. I’m not a parent, but I’m an ally for the lgbtq group. I’m a Christian and I go to church, but I also love a good drag show. I went to drag bingo the other night. I met a drag queen who I ended up hugging. It was a long, two minute hug. She just told me that it was healing for her. Just because I took the time to stop and show love. Kindness is free. ❤ I give all the credit to these two parents that their son accepted himself. It’s so rare. Thank you to them both.

  • @Mrs_Solis
    @Mrs_Solis 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a wonderful family! I’m so glad that TH-cam recommended this video!! ❤❤❤

  • @johngagon
    @johngagon 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was a very interesting story and I enjoyed hearing them speak about it.

    • @dancinghands3464
      @dancinghands3464 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing. So nice to know that everyone doesnt follow lock-step down the aisle.

    • @billballantyne7716
      @billballantyne7716 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is a lot to listen to, but there are so many good things in it that parents (esp religiously conservative ones) need to hear.

    • @dancinghands3464
      @dancinghands3464 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i agree that this really required a good editing BUT the message is so good i was willing to overlook. I hope that John realizes how fortunate he is. I hope this couple realizes that they can STILL have grandkids!!

    • @billballantyne7716
      @billballantyne7716 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am halfway through part 2 of this and continue to be amazed. The son is so level-headed at such a young age, and the parents -- I can't love them enough. They're saying everything that needs to be said about bring up an LGBTQ adolescent. Love the part (and I'm paraphrasing) where the dad notes that these kids go off to college as adults, but with the dating and relationship experiences of a thirteen year-old.

  • @delta932899
    @delta932899 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The son is so brave to stand up and be true to himself

  • @ApolloTheDerg
    @ApolloTheDerg 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for being such good people despite your beliefs. I have been living with my LDS family for 22 years and barley this January I finally accepted the fact that I’m bi, and I could No longer deny it. I still haven’t fully accepted myself, even tho I no longer have faith I struggle to bear this burden. I do lean more to the gay side and I struggle internally with this, and I haven’t told my family either.
    My parents are devout and I feel things may be very awkward, the fact they never taught me anything about sexuality left me very sheltered and I had to stray to things like pornography to understand who I am. I am in a world of confusion right now and hearing people as accepting as you coming from this background brings great comfort to me, and I thank you for sharing your story.
    I’ve remained alone and celibate, it is killing me every year, I cannot live a life like this, death would be better. I will say I’ve been to dark places and had nights where I’ve drank myself to sleep just trying to escape. It’s rough but all in my head, I just hope my family is as accepting as you are. It won’t matter too much as I can move out but still, the pressure is there. I feel once I am set free I won’t have to be worried on a day to day basis.

    • @grampagraham3075
      @grampagraham3075 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Nightmare
      The church is gradually becoming more aware of the challenges people are having with their gander identity and that it isn't as simple as being a choice, as our constant bombardment with chemicals is messing up our genetics, and is playing havoc.
      We have to accept that people feel the way they do and love them for who they are. God loves us all and still wants us to do our best to follow his counsel to the best of our capabilities.
      My kids have left the gospel and it pains me, but I love them and will be there for them.
      I hope your parents will love and support you too.
      Last year I spent some time with a gay young man as he was preparing to go on his mission.I guess some people were shocked that I was so accepting. The young man accepted who he was but still lived the gospel and wanted to serve.
      You should be able to feel good about yourself too and there is a place for you to serve God and feel of his love.
      You need to find someone to talk to and feel good about yourself.
      Good luck

    • @tyronebiggums1047
      @tyronebiggums1047 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@grampagraham3075 1 Corinthians 10:13 King James Version (KJV)
      13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
      Do you believe this doctrine? if so, then you know that people who are tempted with same sex lust can choose not to engage their temptations just like anyone else. Their temptations are not easier or harder than anyone else living the commandments.

    • @grampagraham3075
      @grampagraham3075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tyronebiggums1047 I never mentioned lust, which is a sin. Heterosexuals experience lust too and it is the same sin.
      Same gender attraction is similar to opposite sex attraction it is an attraction. There is no sin in attraction. There is only sin in immorality. hetero or homosexuality.
      Not sure how you read about lust and temptation in my previous comments!!!

    • @tyronebiggums1047
      @tyronebiggums1047 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@grampagraham3075 I know you never mentioned lust. Are you denying that homosexuals also lust? Since there is no sin in attraction, perhaps you can explain the difference between attraction and lust? We are taught that no temptation is given to man that he can not bear, do you believe this? If you do believe this, then homosexuals are not unique, what ever attraction they experience can and should be put aside and they should be expected to live the same commandments as everyone else.
      Just like the man who is tempted to sleep with women who he is not married to, homosexuals should not entertain their temptations. If someone told you (as their bishop) they are constantly thinking about cheating on their wife what would you tell them? You would tell them to stop dwelling on those thoughts and to live righteously. Why is everyone so afraid to tell homosexuals to stop entertaining their temptations? Do you really think God allowed people to be born gay? If so, for what purpose? Could it be possible that these people just entertained temptations to the point of it being very difficult to return to normal sexuality? Were pedophiles born that way? How about other sexual deviants, where they born that way?

    • @tyronebiggums1047
      @tyronebiggums1047 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@grampagraham3075 it is interesting that LDS "LGBT" advocates such as yourself are very vocal about pushing your views publicly, but the nanosecond someone starts asking you follow up questions you disappear from the discussion. It seems that generally people who hold your views don't really want a discussion, you just want to hold court and have everyone listen to your righteous sermon on Love and non-judgment. But when someone asks about specifics on how these views align with actual doctrine, well, then the conversation is over.....

  • @annabelle266
    @annabelle266 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i like how her voice got more relaxed/deeper as she went on. she started with her higher pitched YW voice to start with haha.

  • @lorenerains8719
    @lorenerains8719 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love this couple so much!

  • @stevens.554
    @stevens.554 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Don't be afraid of being Yourself!

    • @mridge01
      @mridge01 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** Really? YOU must be gay. She is gorgeous.

    • @mridge01
      @mridge01 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure bro. Keep telling yourself that.

  • @khadijagwen
    @khadijagwen 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So upset and disillusioned. It's a very long story ... I'm very involuntarily seen as transgender and have lesbian and gay friends. Been living as a woman and post op since 2004. I was Mormon for 6 years, and not allowed a Temple Recommend. I resigned about 3 months ago. Please keep supporting your son.

  • @CJ-oc2ff
    @CJ-oc2ff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder what happened with this couple when the November 2015 policy came out. It sounds like they were believing members but I wonder if that drove them over the age with the church.

    • @CJ-oc2ff
      @CJ-oc2ff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ha then I see next video how lgbt issues provoke faith crisis.

  • @borninpixie4035
    @borninpixie4035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I realize this video is 6 years ago but it's my first time watching..
    I'm not Mormon I'm a former born in JW.
    I just want to say that I empathize with all of these parents and the individuals facing the realization that their child and the child / young adult is gay.
    I cannot imagine what a parent goes through.. being conflicted with the love of your child and the beliefs indoctrinated from the church . My sister is gay. And I cannot imagine all the thoughts and emotions the individual goes through, from denying who they are, feeling the rejection from those in their social circle and family..
    And it's so preventable.
    Those can say well, it's in the bible, men laying with men.. yada yada..
    God's word yada yada..
    Prove to me that the bible is God's word ! It's a book written by men which men said is god's word.. infact a vote was taken inorder to declare which books to include to call gods word..
    And you can't convince me that the bible is God's word by using the bible.
    We are all a creation from nature, and just as nothing in nature is perfect neither are we.. we were all created exactly who we are supposed to be. Perfectly imperfect 💗
    If you believe at all in the teachings of the jesus story, the message is clear, that is to live our lives in the way of Love.

  • @rh8528
    @rh8528 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe he wasnt given a gift.. maybe he's just a nice guy

  • @mridge01
    @mridge01 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Stories like these is how I know there is no true church. Only the church that is true for your family. If it doesn't fit in your family dynamic, it doesn't belong. Religion is just a means to an end for getting through life. Nothing more, nothing less. If it interferes with a person or families true way of thinking, adjustments are made.

  • @denisemurray8856
    @denisemurray8856 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I applaud these loving parents. I don't know much on this subject, but was under the impression that same sex attraction is a trial given just like any other trial, and that the day will come when the Savior will heal us all and make us whole.

  • @vanillavegan2341
    @vanillavegan2341 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Of course it's not a choice! That's complete and udder blasphemy

  • @jenniferbenson7782
    @jenniferbenson7782 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Piece of advice: They need to split from the LDS Church. The LDS leaders will NOT allow him into a temple. There you go. Without that, he's pretty much screwed! The Mormon organization is corrupt and crap! To the family in this story: Please find a loving church. You can always keep your values as they are. God Bless!!

    • @khadijagwen
      @khadijagwen 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, actually ... I know of some cases where a gay man got married, had kids and went to the temple. In one case, after the children were raised he came out again ...

  • @rh8528
    @rh8528 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a wonderful couple.......

  • @chefgeorgecarey8712
    @chefgeorgecarey8712 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting story praise god, another story of a married massage salon owner doing whipped cream acts with employees in North carolina...let us pray the gentleman would call his former employees and repent of his actions...praise God for your son

  • @rh8528
    @rh8528 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this guy bi..... and she knows it....and i mean this in a nice way

  • @marcyarrowchis678
    @marcyarrowchis678 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can love and support your child without accepting the sin!

  • @davidlp6510
    @davidlp6510 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 13 I find it hard to give full credit that the kid is gay or not. Perhaps too soon for the kid to realize what is his orientation. Normally that becomes real at 17 or 19

    • @MajjicDragon
      @MajjicDragon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So you waited till 17 or 19 to know you like girls? Somehow, I doubt it.

    • @martinyauseda8063
      @martinyauseda8063 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're not correct.

  • @brooklynmoore9760
    @brooklynmoore9760 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    i do not support lgbt myself, but i do still love and appreciate individuals that do or are lgbt. I know john, jake, and meg personally and they are great people and such a loving family.

    • @Mabeylater293
      @Mabeylater293 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What if your religion changed and started to support LGBT folks, would that change your position too?

    • @brooklynmoore9760
      @brooklynmoore9760 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      TruAgape1234 - our religion will never change to support LGBT, because our beliefs and standards that have been set are unchanging. But that doesn't mean we don't love those who do support LGBT. Though the belifs of the world will change, The LDS church's beliefs won t.

    • @Mabeylater293
      @Mabeylater293 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What. Makes u think those beliefs would never change?

    • @Mabeylater293
      @Mabeylater293 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brooklyn bmoore0010. Two months have passed since I last asked u a question. What is your response?

    • @brooklynmoore9760
      @brooklynmoore9760 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +TruAgape1234 I probably am not going to give you the detailed answer that you want, but you can find all of the answers to your questions on lds.org ☺

  • @scipro6340
    @scipro6340 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's just where Jake made his first mistake, when he called upon a Baptist person to commiserate about John his son, with someone else rather than a Bishop.
    And even though, John their son had his agency, those parents should have made it perfectly clear, of those original commandments of our Lord to Adam and Eve, and the consequences of Sodom and Gomorrah. And they didn't, and being young parents, you don't always have it locked down on how to raise a child the right way, and so I can sympathize with that. But help was always a visit to a Bishop, who has the Lord's spirit, and that's where they should have gone.
    LGBTisms is no joke. And there IS NO happiness to found therein, and yet, there are many religions of faith proclaiming that they preach The Lord's gospel, who have accepted these people without the Lord's counsels and teachings, simply saying that the Lord loves everybody and whatever you do is alright. The Lord does love mankind, but that does NOT mean that his hand is shortened in any way in dispensing justice.
    Those who do that which has been commanded them, will receive of that justice, salvation and a right to our heavenly Father's presence. And those who are disobedient to God's commandments, will also receive the Lord's justice, .. of punishment and NO rights to the Lord's presence. Simply put, ... just because the Lord loves unconditionally, that does not mean his justice will be stayed. For he is also a God of justice.
    Therefore, any religion of faith that does not preach the right way and commandments of the Lord, are going to b found on the wrong side of the Lord's justice, no question.
    It is a super difficult thing, to raise a child in high expectation, and lose him to sin in any way, but they have their choice and agency, and every child should be taught the consequences of agency, that it can be a real bitch, if you choose wrong,
    But like the Lord has demonstrated,a parent will still love them and continue to hope for their repentance back to that which gives eternal life.
    SciPro

    • @grampagraham3075
      @grampagraham3075 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sci Pro
      I think that you are a bit harsh.
      There is no sin by having same sex feelings. Anyone who lives the law of chastity, which is for straight people as well, is living worthy of God's laws.
      His Baptist friend was an experienced counsellor and an excellent choice to seek help from.
      I don't know if you have ever been a Bishop, but I have and I can assure you that the principle is to use the skills, talents and resources all around you. His Baptist friend sounds like a good God fearing man and a good friend. I would go to him for guidance. I have sought legal, social, medical and housing advice from various agencies as I tried to help people; did I seek heavenly counsel, of course and I was directed to the resources around me. It didn't matter if they were members or not. Good people are good people.
      If I was drowning, I would rather have a thief who could swim than a Bishop who could not, dive in to save me. The thief can steal my wallet, but at least he would rescue me.
      I think you should maybe remember the two greatest commandments. People need love and then they can process the challenges they face a lot easier.
      I think these parents are examples of good LDS Christians.

    • @jjabhau
      @jjabhau 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Grampa Graham
      “A thief who could swim than a bishop who could not.”
      Amazing

    • @grampagraham3075
      @grampagraham3075 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Jake Abhau
      Do you like that one? I heard that story somewhere ( it was in relation to being saved from drowning and not in every context: relating to the thief's skill in swimming). I think people need to realise there is good everywhere, in every religion, in every race, country, gender, ability, disability. An inexperienced church leader with limit capability and understanding of the gospel and who hasn't grown into the spirit of revelation, isn't always going to get it right. Peter had to go through some experiences before he transformed from a coward and a liar and into a rock. You look at many ancient Christian and other leaders had weaknesses to overcome to gain experience and wisdom to counsel wisely.

    • @tyronebiggums1047
      @tyronebiggums1047 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@grampagraham3075 I know everyone is beating the drum that "same sex attraction" is not a sin but that is a little vague. Is there such thing as same sex lust? We KNOW that it is a sin to look upon another with lust. Is there not a single homosexual that looks upon another with lust? We ALL have temptations pop into our heads that we don't control (therefore it is not a sin) but if you entertain those thoughts in your head, are you not sinning in your heart? The bible says so, do you disagree with the bible?
      What if a husband is constantly attracted to other women but does nothing? Is he not sinning if he is open that he is attracted to women other than his wife and he makes no effort to ignore those attractions? What if he thinks about other women when he is making love to his wife?
      Why are we giving homoSEXuals a pass on things that would CLEARLY be a sin if applied to heterosexuals.