Conrail is definitely one of them childhood past times for me. At two or three years old, living in a small apartment right along the Harrisburg line in Palmyra, I sat at a window and watched them hammer on by!
The Conrail unit is actually Norfolk Southern's Conrail Heritage unit. In 2012 for their 30th Anniversary, NS painted 20 Locomotives in special paint schemes of all the railroads that formed Norfolk Southern. To answer your question at 8:09, those are called spine cars. They're designed to transport Trailers from 28' up to 53' long and containers from 40' up to 53' long. There is a Hot Box Detector just west of the crossing at 9:06 where you were at filming that stack train. Again, just thought I would share some info with you. Be safe.
@@luv2fly452 NS and CSX both own shared assets of Conrail. There isn't any power from the railroad that still retains the paint (from what I've seen) but NS and CSX do operations in Pennsylvania and Jersey for Conrail. The government actually created Conrail to revitalize rail service in the Midwest and northeast. The Staggers Act made Conrail very successful, until NS and CSX had an agreement to buy Conrail on a joint stock purchase.
That locomotive is NS's ES44AC Conrail Heritage Unit, commemorating the old railroad. NS and CSX own shared assets of Conrail. There are 19 other heritage units as well.
A very nice video. I went to college about half an hour from Harrisburg, and distinctly remember an active freight rail line running through campus that went from Camp Hill to Harrisburg. Suffice it to say, I always kept one ear open for the sound of a train.
The cars in question are called piggy backs or proper term "spine cars". At my employer BNSF we also refer to them as "bare tables". We do a LOT of hand-offs with Norfolk Southern here in Chicago. Also, if you're interested , check out horseshoe curve in Altoona.
And Southern itself was an odd duck - a freight railroad based in Washington, DC (it was born in DC in 1953 - I would not be born - in the same city - for another eight years); unlike Conrail, the government had nothing to do with the creation of Southern.
I'm going to break your heart, Steve, Orwell has that Conrail unit thirty five her junior like many have said here. Pretty much all the original big blue is long gone to paint or the torch if it didn't get picked up by a shortline or Mexico. There's only one shortline I know of who has a pure Conrail fleet still in big blue and it's down in Mississippi around the northern part of the state. You can look it up and see for yourself if you ever get a load out that way. You weren't along the Southern Tier branch, you were along the Lurgen Branch between Harrisburg and Hagerstown, MD. This line sees about two dozen trains a day not counting the as needed traffic. It can be hit or miss with trains coming in fleets from what I've seen on the VR cam at Greencastle. Still, nice catch of the Heritage Conrail!
@@goldie44 i was always jealous of PA harboring most of the Conrail EMD SD40-2s and the SD50s that are now gone and all replaced with rebuilt former Conrail SD80MACS and leased rebuilt SD90MACS over on Horseshoe.
Thats not a Conrail locomotive. They also never had GEVO locos during that age of time. Norfolk Southern painted that locomotive in a Conrail paint job including like 20 other locomotives and it is apart of NS’s Heritage line.
that is not an "old Conrail unit", that loco is just as new as all the others. it is a heritage unit, so it was never on Conrail, it was painted for Norfolk Sothern's 30th anniversary in 2012. A heritage unit is a new loco painted in a predecessor paint scheme. So that loco is not old
NS 8098 is one of Norfolk Southern's heritage units. In 2012, they repainted 20 of their modern locomotives into paint schemes from several railroads that no longer exist, but in many ways have ties to the modern NS system. Heres a list of the NS Heritage Units, *indicates the ones I have seen NS 8025 Monongahela Railway NS 8098 Conrail * NS 8099 Southern Railway (Currently in repair shops after being involved in a derailment) * NS 8100 Nickel Plate Road (nickname for the New York, Chicago, and St. Louis RR) * NS 8101 Central of Georgia Railway * NS 8102 Pennsylvania RR * NS 8103 Norfolk and Western Railway * NS 8104 Lehigh Valley RR NS 8105 Interstate RR NS 8114 Original Norfolk Southern * (used to be a Charlotte NC to Norfolk VA route, today's Norfolk Southern is named by the merger of the Norfolk and Western, and the Southern Railway) NS 1065 Savannah and Atlanta Railway * NS 1066 New York Central RR NS 1067 Reading Company NS 1068 Erie RR NS 1069 Virginian Railway NS 1070 Wabash Railroad NS 1071 Central of New Jersey Railroad * NS 1072 Illinois Terminal Railroad NS 1073 Penn Central Transport Company NS 1074 Lackawanna Railroad Yeah Norfolk Southern takes the cake for the best heritage units. I hope you see more, they are spotted more often than you think. I once saw both 8098 and 8100 on the same train!
They actually weren’t repainted into the heritage paint. They either came that way from the factory or were painted on property at the shop in PA. The last 5 or 6 EMD’s were painted in Muncie Indiana and taken in a social move from there to the big heritage rodeo in NC.
Up here in Eastern Canada, New Brunswick and Nova Scotia we're starting to see Kansas City Southern power since CN took over KCS. The latest KCS locomotive to show up on the East Coast with CN was KCS 5023, on Mar 22, it did a run from Moncton, NB to Saint John, NB and back, on Mar 23 it left Moncton on CN 305 from Moncton back up to Toronto.
@@jeffeastmond8481 According to the news feeds the merger is being contested by CN and a couple of American railroads, and if KCS power is showing up on CN lines, then KCS is have a fire sale getting rid of Locomotives.
@@Chuck59ish Yes, but it's not 'since CN took over KCS' at the moment is it. The challenges are against parts of the merger, not that these other railroads (apart from CN) are actually wanting KCS.
They're likely coming in as pooled or Horsepower hour units, since CN and KCS aren't merging. KCS hasn't been taken over by anyone as of yet, STB will rule on that.
The Conrail unit is not old. It is what is called a heritage engine. NS had several engines painted in special paint schemes for the companies (NS) 30th anniversary. All of the special heritage units including the Conrail unit were painted as such to pay tribute to the railroad lineage that formed NS
I love what Norfolk Southern did with the heritage units! I would LOVE it if CSX did the same! I would enjoy seeing ES44ACs painted in SCL black and Family Lines grey! But I am not holding my breath!
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Love seeing.Conrail units too. Grew up in Baltimore so.that Chessie System are friends I miss.
Conrail is definitely one of them childhood past times for me. At two or three years old, living in a small apartment right along the Harrisburg line in Palmyra, I sat at a window and watched them hammer on by!
Yeah Conrail Was The Best Train Ever It’s Unfortunate That They Don’t Exist Anymore
The Conrail unit is actually Norfolk Southern's Conrail Heritage unit. In 2012 for their 30th Anniversary, NS painted 20 Locomotives in special paint schemes of all the railroads that formed Norfolk Southern. To answer your question at 8:09, those are called spine cars. They're designed to transport Trailers from 28' up to 53' long and containers from 40' up to 53' long. There is a Hot Box Detector just west of the crossing at 9:06 where you were at filming that stack train. Again, just thought I would share some info with you. Be safe.
PF, How does ConRail fit into the N&S history? Didn't CSX acquire ConRail?
@@luv2fly452 They both took parts of Conrail. NS took 58% and CSX took 42%.
@@maxstrains thanks, for that info. I wasn't aware N&S had anything to do with the acquisition of ConRail.
@@luv2fly452 NS and CSX both own shared assets of Conrail. There isn't any power from the railroad that still retains the paint (from what I've seen) but NS and CSX do operations in Pennsylvania and Jersey for Conrail. The government actually created Conrail to revitalize rail service in the Midwest and northeast. The Staggers Act made Conrail very successful, until NS and CSX had an agreement to buy Conrail on a joint stock purchase.
@@luv2fly452 N&S is not a thing. It’s Norfolk Southern, not Norfolk & Southern.
That locomotive is NS's ES44AC Conrail Heritage Unit, commemorating the old railroad. NS and CSX own shared assets of Conrail. There are 19 other heritage units as well.
Even though is a heritage unit, I still would love to see it one day
GREAT catch !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No one:
The guy: WOAH A CONRAIL UNIT
the train: thanks man I'm flattered.
A very nice video. I went to college about half an hour from Harrisburg, and distinctly remember an active freight rail line running through campus that went from Camp Hill to Harrisburg. Suffice it to say, I always kept one ear open for the sound of a train.
The Conrail unit is the Norfolk Southern heritage unit
Whatever happened to Conrail did they sell out to another company or go home under?
The cars in question are called piggy backs or proper term "spine cars". At my employer BNSF we also refer to them as "bare tables". We do a LOT of hand-offs with Norfolk Southern here in Chicago. Also, if you're interested , check out horseshoe curve in Altoona.
That Conrail Unit is one of NS Heritage Unit...
And Southern itself was an odd duck - a freight railroad based in Washington, DC (it was born in DC in 1953 - I would not be born - in the same city - for another eight years); unlike Conrail, the government had nothing to do with the creation of Southern.
I'm going to break your heart, Steve, Orwell has that Conrail unit thirty five her junior like many have said here. Pretty much all the original big blue is long gone to paint or the torch if it didn't get picked up by a shortline or Mexico. There's only one shortline I know of who has a pure Conrail fleet still in big blue and it's down in Mississippi around the northern part of the state. You can look it up and see for yourself if you ever get a load out that way. You weren't along the Southern Tier branch, you were along the Lurgen Branch between Harrisburg and Hagerstown, MD. This line sees about two dozen trains a day not counting the as needed traffic. It can be hit or miss with trains coming in fleets from what I've seen on the VR cam at Greencastle. Still, nice catch of the Heritage Conrail!
The CSAO (Conrail Shared Assets Operations) in NJ use former Conrail power on local moves. Those locomotives wear NS and CSX paint though
@@goldie44 i was always jealous of PA harboring most of the Conrail EMD SD40-2s and the SD50s that are now gone and all replaced with rebuilt former Conrail SD80MACS and leased rebuilt SD90MACS over on Horseshoe.
Thats not a Conrail locomotive. They also never had GEVO locos during that age of time. Norfolk Southern painted that locomotive in a Conrail paint job including like 20 other locomotives and it is apart of NS’s Heritage line.
Just an NS Heritage unit, pretty cool catch though, haven't saw that on in person yet👍🏼😎
that is not an "old Conrail unit", that loco is just as new as all the others. it is a heritage unit, so it was never on Conrail, it was painted for Norfolk Sothern's 30th anniversary in 2012. A heritage unit is a new loco painted in a predecessor paint scheme. So that loco is not old
Good one... Aside from the train view, I like finding the exact video location on Google maps street view.
Great video Steve thanks for sharing stay safe.
NS 8098 is one of Norfolk Southern's heritage units. In 2012, they repainted 20 of their modern locomotives into paint schemes from several railroads that no longer exist, but in many ways have ties to the modern NS system.
Heres a list of the NS Heritage Units,
*indicates the ones I have seen
NS 8025 Monongahela Railway
NS 8098 Conrail *
NS 8099 Southern Railway (Currently in repair shops after being involved in a derailment) *
NS 8100 Nickel Plate Road (nickname for the New York, Chicago, and St. Louis RR) *
NS 8101 Central of Georgia Railway *
NS 8102 Pennsylvania RR *
NS 8103 Norfolk and Western Railway *
NS 8104 Lehigh Valley RR
NS 8105 Interstate RR
NS 8114 Original Norfolk Southern * (used to be a Charlotte NC to Norfolk VA route, today's Norfolk Southern is named by the merger of the Norfolk and Western, and the Southern Railway)
NS 1065 Savannah and Atlanta Railway *
NS 1066 New York Central RR
NS 1067 Reading Company
NS 1068 Erie RR
NS 1069 Virginian Railway
NS 1070 Wabash Railroad
NS 1071 Central of New Jersey Railroad *
NS 1072 Illinois Terminal Railroad
NS 1073 Penn Central Transport Company
NS 1074 Lackawanna Railroad
Yeah Norfolk Southern takes the cake for the best heritage units. I hope you see more, they are spotted more often than you think. I once saw both 8098 and 8100 on the same train!
They actually weren’t repainted into the heritage paint. They either came that way from the factory or were painted on property at the shop in PA. The last 5 or 6 EMD’s were painted in Muncie Indiana and taken in a social move from there to the big heritage rodeo in NC.
@@bbundy1069 Ah ok. Makes sense.
@@bbundy1069 I believe 8025 is the only exception to this
That's one thing I miss is railfanning
Ah yes, the good ol Conrail painted GEVO. Kinda wish it was a dash 8 widecab but a Conrail painted engine is a Conrail painted engine.
where is the contrail train?
Up here in Eastern Canada, New Brunswick and Nova Scotia we're starting to see Kansas City Southern power since CN took over KCS. The latest KCS locomotive to show up on the East Coast with CN was KCS 5023, on Mar 22, it did a run from Moncton, NB to Saint John, NB and back, on Mar 23 it left Moncton on CN 305 from Moncton back up to Toronto.
Canadian Pacific is merging with KCS, not Canadian National
@@jeffeastmond8481 According to the news feeds the merger is being contested by CN and a couple of American railroads, and if KCS power is showing up on CN lines, then KCS is have a fire sale getting rid of Locomotives.
@@Chuck59ish Yes, but it's not 'since CN took over KCS' at the moment is it. The challenges are against parts of the merger, not that these other railroads (apart from CN) are actually wanting KCS.
They're likely coming in as pooled or Horsepower hour units, since CN and KCS aren't merging.
KCS hasn't been taken over by anyone as of yet, STB will rule on that.
That's just a heritage unit. NS has a bunch of them in other road names to
Those cars with 5th wheels are spine cars. Wide world of trains despise them.
those cars that haul the whole trailer, we called them piggy-back cars
Cool
So let me introduce you to the world of Heritage Units...
Sure is
8:10 TOFC Trailer On Flat Car.
sir that is a heratige unit
Wait so I'm confused cause i though conrail went out of service ages ago
The Conrail unit is not old. It is what is called a heritage engine. NS had several engines painted in special paint schemes for the companies (NS) 30th anniversary. All of the special heritage units including the Conrail unit were painted as such to pay tribute to the railroad lineage that formed NS
That's the Conrail heritage unit, not old at all.
Umm who’s gonna tell him
This is a heritage unit made by Norfolk Southern, not a legitimate conrail locomotive. Wasn't built by conrail either.
Am I the only one who thought oh god empty center beams at the beginning of the consist.
Sir, that is a Heritage unit not a CONRAIL unit
I think 🤔 that right there is why freight rates are so low for dry an refers
Those JB Hunts belong on rails. That many on the highway would be horrable.
Relax. It’s a heritage unit, don’t hurt yourself…
I love what Norfolk Southern did with the heritage units! I would LOVE it if CSX did the same! I would enjoy seeing ES44ACs painted in SCL black and Family Lines grey! But I am not holding my breath!
Stay warm and dress properly. If you freeze how can I watch your videos. I do watch your channels.
Apreciando a una mujer tan hermosa. 2:6 sentadillas son unos SEXBABY.Uno muchas y un buen ejercicio. 5:25 Se deja ver que hay muy buenos resultados 😍👍 Saludos desde la Cd.. de world losb mortales abian apreciado tan hermosa mujer