Videos for real ATC lovers! If you an ATC or know of some, please send an email to vasaviation1@gmail.com ; your help is very appreciated to continue to develop this radar software and make it look as realistic as possible.
I was a United Airlines 757/767 pilot based at JFK for the final 14 years of my career and just LOVED working with those New York air traffic controllers!! I had to retire on January 14, 2015 by the age 65 rule and really miss the professional working relationship I had with New York controllers in any position from ground control, tower, approach, or center at JFK or LGA. I now fly a Pilatus PC-12NG professionally (at age 73) and am based in Pennsylvania. My normal routine is to fly between Mount Pocono, PA and Key West and back. The other day on a flight to MPO, I was handed off from Washington Center to New York Center and told the controller how happy I was to hear his accent again and to be working with New York once more. Those (mostly) guys are tough! You had better not miss a radio with approach or departure, but very competent. Having worked with ATC all over the world I rate New York the best and ORD a close second best ATC controllers.
I was flying a Boeing 757 on my retirement flight on January 14, 2015 was from SFO to JFK and I landed on Runway 4 Right which is the runway being used in this video.
Flew to JFK as an F/O ( B 727 , B 707 , DC 8 )... Then Captain DC 8 , B 767 , B 777 300. Retired Now ...I will Always Remember this exiting times . As an F/O I was requested to fly by the Captains being checked first time. This was in a pristine passenger B 707 ( LADECO Airlines ) with Beautiful, Young, super politely Flight Attendants. Greetings to All Pilots who Love our Profession !
Well, these kind of videos are to watch a radar scope as it's seen in real life. Our software recreates it really similar to real radar screens. Any doubt you have with the lines or data info displayed, you can ask.
What's on the ground is mostly irrelevant, especially in this final segment of a flight. It's one less thing to think about in the cockpit. Frankly, it's even better when you're in clouds; should never be low-time, in-experienced aircraft out joy-riding. 😁 I'd suggest printing out a interweb map of the area around JFK. Draw a ten mile circle around the airport and some lines extended from the runways out to that circle. Enjoy!
That seems crazy busy. Everyone's right on it, but it seems like there's little slack should there be a problem. How long does the ATC in that position work before they get a break?
this is not a job for slow and easily "burned out" people and only 1 percent of all candidates get the job either you are capable to handle this in every shift or you are not and this is not even close to be "crazy busy"
Probably very silly question, so I show my total lack of knowledge/understanding about everything ATC or pilot comms. I just can't understand how people can follow these instructions given amount of noise and speed of speech. Sure, for natives it's easier but I know many professional captains don't have English is native language. So without understanding anything about the subject my question would be - how come there is no digital audio option, which would totally eliminate noise? I know it's much more unreliable, so current systems should be available as well, as a backup - how it is human-controlled in 2020+? As a software engineer, I'd expect traffic to be totally machine-controlled, comms included, optionally an MFD showing same information in textual format, allowing one to check history of comms if you forgot or misheard something. Again with human backup(s) for obvious reasons
I know I’m 11 months late, but one of the big reasons it’s so much easier for the pilots to understand atc is because they pretty much know what atc is going to say. They’ve done this so many times they know what to expect. When you’re about to land, and atc is vectoring you in you know you’re going to get cleared for the ILS approach or whatever other approach soon, so you can expect that transmission
@@xxibjrosek HPN is in N90. It’s a really odd shape that only the government could come up with. It looks HPN is probably as far north as it goes. It covers western CT to the MA border and southern CT to what looks like New Haven so it gets Tweed and Sikorsky, all of LI except the extreme east end so it covers East Hampton and Gabreski and most of Jersey until the Philadelphia suburbs so it probably has Lakehurst/Fort Dix as well. It’s massive considering the FAA says the average coverage is a 30-50 mile radius. The question to me is where that 50 miles starts from. If it starts from Westbury it doesn’t cover as far south and west. If you start it from Times Square, it excludes New Haven and it would just cover Islip.
@@augusteriksson9096 I thought Z90 was irregular in shape. A90 is just as bad but probably nowhere near as busy. Looks like the big players are BDL and BOS. SCT must be a damn zoo.. it consolidated 5 old TRACONs. Forgive me, I’ve always had a fascination with Air traffic routing from a systems perspective.. J ways, V ways, routes, NATS and throw on top of that VFR traffic. I envision the process as an attempt to choreograph cat herding 😂
There are about 20 or more airplanes in view traveling at 180 knots or more, that's 333km/h or 208 mph. Things happen quickly. Turning any plane later than planned will mess up the entire vectoring sequence leading to even more work
ATC needs an overhaul. AI will be the only solution. The FAA needs to act soon. Human ATC is lacking in staffing and the system itself is antiquated. This is a quietly held secret... Until accidents happen, nothing will be done. I'd rather support that rather than Green Energy...
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Videos for real ATC lovers!
If you an ATC or know of some, please send an email to vasaviation1@gmail.com ; your help is very appreciated to continue to develop this radar software and make it look as realistic as possible.
I was a United Airlines 757/767 pilot based at JFK for the final 14 years of my career and just LOVED working with those New York air traffic controllers!! I had to retire on January 14, 2015 by the age 65 rule and really miss the professional working relationship I had with New York controllers in any position from ground control, tower, approach, or center at JFK or LGA. I now fly a Pilatus PC-12NG professionally (at age 73) and am based in Pennsylvania. My normal routine is to fly between Mount Pocono, PA and Key West and back. The other day on a flight to MPO, I was handed off from Washington Center to New York Center and told the controller how happy I was to hear his accent again and to be working with New York once more. Those (mostly) guys are tough! You had better not miss a radio with approach or departure, but very competent. Having worked with ATC all over the world I rate New York the best and ORD a close second best ATC controllers.
beautiful thing to see
I was flying a Boeing 757 on my retirement flight on January 14, 2015 was from SFO to JFK and I landed on Runway 4 Right which is the runway being used in this video.
Flew to JFK as an F/O ( B 727 , B 707 , DC 8 )...
Then Captain DC 8 , B 767 , B 777 300.
Retired Now ...I will Always Remember this exiting times . As an F/O I was requested to fly by the Captains being checked first time.
This was in a pristine passenger B 707 ( LADECO Airlines ) with Beautiful, Young, super politely Flight Attendants.
Greetings to All Pilots who Love our Profession !
Can you make a video about the collision between an A330 from Thai Airways and an A330 from Eva Air at Tokyo's Haneda airport which took place today?
So polite on radio 🙏🏻✌️👍🏻
Heavy stand clear 😎💪🙏🏻👌🏻✌️🏴☠️
Ah, the usual JFK ATC.
I'll be back in it in a few months 😜
You a real ATC?
@@VASAviation No, the flying bit 😘
Thx
No kablamo on my shift🙏🏻
it would be good if you had a land map superimposed over a part of this. (I'm new to ATC - - but I honestly can't tell where I'm looking at)
Well, these kind of videos are to watch a radar scope as it's seen in real life. Our software recreates it really similar to real radar screens. Any doubt you have with the lines or data info displayed, you can ask.
@@VASAviation thanks - but the thing is I can’t detect any geographical outlines (i.e. Manhattan, Jamaica Bay, Long Island, etc)
What's on the ground is mostly irrelevant, especially in this final segment of a flight. It's one less thing to think about in the cockpit. Frankly, it's even better when you're in clouds; should never be low-time, in-experienced aircraft out joy-riding. 😁 I'd suggest printing out a interweb map of the area around JFK. Draw a ten mile circle around the airport and some lines extended from the runways out to that circle. Enjoy!
navaids baby
This is awesome, thank you for sharing! How do you get this?
I make it
@@VASAviation I don’t know how you make it, but that’s simply amazing. Excellent work!
Yeah 😂 it's real nightmare for airchina pilots 😅
This is a burn out waiting ….
Nah, these guys live for this.
That seems crazy busy. Everyone's right on it, but it seems like there's little slack should there be a problem. How long does the ATC in that position work before they get a break?
Hour on hour off, well if it’s staffed at least
this is not a job for slow and easily "burned out" people and only 1 percent of all candidates get the job either you are capable to handle this in every shift or you are not and this is not even close to be "crazy busy"
Probably very silly question, so I show my total lack of knowledge/understanding about everything ATC or pilot comms.
I just can't understand how people can follow these instructions given amount of noise and speed of speech. Sure, for natives it's easier but I know many professional captains don't have English is native language. So without understanding anything about the subject my question would be
- how come there is no digital audio option, which would totally eliminate noise? I know it's much more unreliable, so current systems should be available as well, as a backup
- how it is human-controlled in 2020+? As a software engineer, I'd expect traffic to be totally machine-controlled, comms included, optionally an MFD showing same information in textual format, allowing one to check history of comms if you forgot or misheard something. Again with human backup(s) for obvious reasons
I know I’m 11 months late, but one of the big reasons it’s so much easier for the pilots to understand atc is because they pretty much know what atc is going to say. They’ve done this so many times they know what to expect. When you’re about to land, and atc is vectoring you in you know you’re going to get cleared for the ILS approach or whatever other approach soon, so you can expect that transmission
Is NY Tracon only JFK, LGA, EWR or does it also encompass TEB and ISP?
TEB and ISP too
I thought so. I'm guessing HPN is too far north? I've flown into there before, but I am far more familiar with EWR, LGA and JFK.
@@xxibjrosek HPN is in N90. It’s a really odd shape that only the government could come up with. It looks HPN is probably as far north as it goes. It covers western CT to the MA border and southern CT to what looks like New Haven so it gets Tweed and Sikorsky, all of LI except the extreme east end so it covers East Hampton and Gabreski and most of Jersey until the Philadelphia suburbs so it probably has Lakehurst/Fort Dix as well. It’s massive considering the FAA says the average coverage is a 30-50 mile radius. The question to me is where that 50 miles starts from. If it starts from Westbury it doesn’t cover as far south and west. If you start it from Times Square, it excludes New Haven and it would just cover Islip.
@@xxibjrosek it goes as north as Stewart/Poughkeepsie area until it becomes Boston
@@augusteriksson9096 I thought Z90 was irregular in shape. A90 is just as bad but probably nowhere near as busy. Looks like the big players are BDL and BOS. SCT must be a damn zoo.. it consolidated 5 old TRACONs. Forgive me, I’ve always had a fascination with Air traffic routing from a systems perspective.. J ways, V ways, routes, NATS and throw on top of that VFR traffic. I envision the process as an attempt to choreograph cat herding 😂
How do you get this view?
Why is he speaking fast ?
There are about 20 or more airplanes in view traveling at 180 knots or more, that's 333km/h or 208 mph. Things happen quickly. Turning any plane later than planned will mess up the entire vectoring sequence leading to even more work
It’s actually because he sits there all day long and issues the same headings , the same altitudes , the same speeds over and over and over again
Stapleton crash ice is not nice
ATC needs an overhaul. AI will be the only solution. The FAA needs to act soon. Human ATC is lacking in staffing and the system itself is antiquated. This is a quietly held secret... Until accidents happen, nothing will be done. I'd rather support that rather than Green Energy...
What a stressful job