The Downfall of r/Antiwork
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> goes on air representing the anti work movement
> puts zero effort into preparing for that interview
> yeah that tracks
I mean actually helping Destroy It should be done since It is anti work
Should have hired a PR...oh wait, hiring is evil.
I would honestly do anything to get back to a time where we didn't act like we like strangers. Like honestly get back to a time where u have to work and only care about ur family. These days with customer service you meed to act like u give a shit about strangers. Like I don't give a fuck about yall. If we had no laws most of the customers I interact with would be dead in seconds. I do anything for one day of anarchy.
@@alexandraestre1731 Maybe you should put some of that passion into getting a good job and not being a loser lol
i mean makes sense, the guy hates work
Let's get this straight. They removed the mod's account, and then they added a new account as a mod. That account was made that same day. Take a wild guess as to who's behind that account
They literally setup a military coup, with their own puppet government and all
@@NeoEvanA.R.T LMAO
Whaaaaat!? It got even more stupid
@Confessions Of A Movie Freak what?
Masterb-
>Subreddit get's popular
>Subreddit tanks in quality
That's basically how reddit works
Yes, when you have a lot of liberals in one place, everything goes to shit. Keep liberals out of your communities if you want quality ANYTHING - art, discussions, even friends.
damn Joe Biden and those darn liberals..........
@@screwgoogle4993 ummm you know conservatives are purposefully erasing and forcing minorities to not be themselves right. We trans people are literally fighting to exist with laws trying to basically paint us as scum. We liberals just want to survive and push for good change
@@lssjgaming1599 you will never be a woman
@@lssjgaming1599 Conservatives aren't appealing to delusional people like you
I still can't believe they sent someone whos job is literally "a walk in the park" and not an electrician or something
With that many members, one of them should have beena savvy PR person. They should have done the interview.
I am assuming most of the mods had jobs and since they didn't want to get fired they used the loser as the face.
The people with the most clout and loudest voice in places like that are usually the ones that have literally nothing else going on in their lives. That Doreen guy was one of the oldest mods because he has all the time in the world to just mod his subreddit. I modded a forum when I was a teenager, eventually I went to college and had to stop because I didn't have time anymore to dedicate to sitting around deleting spam. I guarantee Doreen has accomplished nothing else in his life other than moderating a subreddit that blew up, so I bet he demanded to be the one to go on TV - rather than, as you say, someone with an actual job and life experience to talk about how companies mistreat workers.
I remember everyone begging them not to do it.
@@PontschPauPau3451 I agree with the rest, Doreen seems like the personification of silver-spoon nepotism, but she's clearly a chick lol
The Fox News guy didn't even need to do anything, the mod dug their own grave
*her
@@thereisnofood2008 their is gender neutral
I mean if I remember correctly she was on the Autism spectrum so she had a bit of trouble noticing the clear baiting
@@thereisnofood2008 that's a guy
@@AuroraAce. :) using "gender neutral" language on people you know the gender of, is still misgendering/degendering
If they had shifted the narrative to be more focused on work reform, they would have been fine. Lesson learned - nothing is ever good enough for a redditor.
The commies thought this was their time to shine when really it was just a place for average people to talk about ways of getting a better work/life balance and pay, among other things.
The problem is, even if you go back to its earliest days, it really wasn't about reforms. It's in the name it's antiwork not reformwork.
@Sidharth Rao "Most of the sub was about and gravitating towards work reform" Meanwhile all of the top voted posts are photoshopped hate porn lmao. This narrative being pushed of them being misrepresented is such a sly & pathetic attempt at damage control lol
I’m on r/antiwork decently often and that is very much the message. Real or not the majority of posts are complaining about bad conditions or unfair treatment from their own jobs. And most responses are advice, and is generally pretty good for big subReddit standards.
I like ghost gums videos but this one is pretty off-base
the level of irony for a subreddit about hating on job employees to have powermods who more or less do the same when it comes to trample on the people below em, except without any paiment ...or dignity
Reddit mods manage to be hypocritical, and be a bigot at the same time. Baffles my mind.
Reddit mods will ban you for any criticism directed to their way of running their subreddit, and then pretend you were being [insert negative descriptive word] to justify their tyranny.
It happened in r/antiwork too, when the mods began banning users for mentioning the trans mod’s raype allegations, claiming they were doing it all to stop “”transsphobia”” and that the rumors were the fault of brigades and evil trolls.
This was all bull of course.
They think the privilege of silencing anyone that calls them out is a right. That being x justifies the act of being a predator
You are telling me they do it for free?
They sweep it up for free!
I keep forgetting youtuber so watch other TH-camrs
>Antiwork was about bad management
>A moderator of Antiwork did the interview
>Moderators manage forums
>Bad management killed antiwork
Bad managers win?
Ironically, they became the bad managers they complained about
Only a bad manager could be that unprepared.
It all came full circle
The chad bad manager keeps on winning
Who would've guessed? Lazy idiots are incapable of managing even something as simple as a reddit community. Which just goes to show that their incessant rambling about work was more about ther inherent flaws and incapabilities than the unfairness of work in general. Especially if you consider that those that have access and time to be a part of such a resentful online community are absolutely not part of a truly unfair and inhumane workspace, such asian sweatshop workers, miners etc etc
Guess you could say that the subreddit ended up not working out?
you must have been working hard to get a dad joke joke work, good job
It's alright, from what I can tell, those redditors don't get worked up about it.
more like all of the users don't work out
@@kwad9145 Well, one user walks dogs!
@@nilon5327 more physical activity than 95% of all reddit users
Looks like reddit is entirely unstable for such movements when mods can hijack them at will
Well… it’s always a certain type of “gender” that ruins every subreddit.
@@jakeastside I'm not sure what you want to say but it's probably sexist
@@jakeastside based?
The mod didn't hijack anything lmao; he's a founding member of the sub and his quotes are literally listed on the sidebar of the sub verbatim, stating things like "The Abolishment of Work", "The Myth of Work", "In Praise of Idleness" etc. In fact, get this.. it even states all of these things under a title literally saying "Anti-Work 101" lmao.
He didn't misrepresent anything. r/antiwork really is just a bunch of financially destitute weaklings that want to destroy the concept of working, because they themselves been broken like twigs by their entry-level jobs. They are lazy and stupid, this isn't surface-level judgement; this is the sad reality of the sub. Good riddance.
@@jakeastside Based
antiwork users when they realize that the hammer and sickle represent physical labor 😢
lol
@@abdellahsbaa3751 They would create the infinite resources generator. Free money glitch irl
@@end4567
CIA fucked up my cobblestone generator. Can’t have shit in Cuba.
antiwork users when china takes over the world they have to work in the coal mines instead of being dog walkers
Which is funny because the point of communism is everyone gets a job and gets same amount regardless of all the responsibilities lmao.
I've always loved the bit about "I want to teach philosophy". Philosophy is primarily only taught at college, and to become a college professor takes an immense amount of work, let alone all the teaching, grading, and research you're required to do once you actually get the position.
That’s the problem. It shouldn’t take work to be a college professor to pursue your dream of teaching people the correct way of thinking. Why should I have to give up 4 years of my life just to pursue my dream? It’s just capitalist bs to water down the actual free thinkers because the big heads of governments don’t want us wage slave liberators to influence the next generation, because they know we will not fall for their college “preparation” trap. This goes for all professors. The idea that you have to taught a premade set of beliefs to teach is straight up fascism. College must be abolished. /s
"Laziness is a virtue" is the philosophy that he wants to spread 😆
Not to mention most really philosophers throughout history had a full time job outside of teaching philosophy and many of them died for their beliefs.
Think the only time I’ve seen philosophers make a career out of their field outside of college is on TH-cam ironically enough
He also wanted to teach "critical thinking".
i.e. "I haven't been bothered to study anything but I'm very smart."
This was most certainly a Reddit moment
So glad I left that shithole of a site when I did
@@lonelyswarm6827 And you went from one shithole to another? lol
Most certainly, most certainly.
r/redditmoment
@@lonelyswarm6827 You're lucky. Reddit gives you canceraids. This is a well known fact. I can tell you don't have it because you don't follow every sentence with an emoji or a "lol".
Stage 4 canceraids is when you use quotations to farm specific sentences from someone you're having a debate with while ignoring their point.
I hope this helps you identity canceraids before you get infected. Social media distance yourself.
- how did you prepare for the interview?
- I showered.
I think you’re giving them a bit too much credit
@@GhostGum nah he isnt giving him enough credit, I heard reddit mods are allergic to personal hygiene
@@williamaftonpizzeria They also need suntan lotion for natural light
doesn't look like it, perhaps a few drips on the stomach and left
I highly doubt they did that honestly
Remember: stick true to your beliefs, but do your research, and be prepared for anything. Otherwise you will end up ruining your message, or let clowns ruin it for you.
The mod didn't ruin any message lmao; he's a founding member of the sub and his quotes are literally listed on the sidebar of the sub verbatim, stating things like "The Abolishment of Work", "The Myth of Work", "In Praise of Idleness" etc. In fact, get this.. it even states all of these things under a title literally saying "Anti-Work 101" lmao.
He didn't misrepresent anything. r/antiwork really is just a bunch of financially destitute weaklings that want to destroy the concept of working and praise the concept of laziness, because they themselves have been broken like twigs by their entry-level jobs. They are lazy and stupid, this isn't surface-level judgement; this is the sad reality of the sub. Good riddance.
@@KevinJohnson-cv2no dumb redditors be like “B-b-But there’s MoRe nUaNcE”
@@KevinJohnson-cv2no Not only did you make it obvious you've never browsed the sub once but you didn't even watch the video either. Wow
@@Shyguymask Hey, guy who wasted his time browsing the sub here. Everything he has said is 100% on the money. The sub consists of 50% fake evil boss/management post (Mods dont hide the fact that majority of the sub is fabricated, infact they encourage it to boost its popularity) and 50% just general whining about capitalism.
I think theres valid critiques of the work enviroment and wages for employees, but r/antiwork users simply want handouts for just existing and thats something i simply disagree with.
@@Shyguymask TIL ShyGuyMask is a fan of Ghost
I cannot stress this enough you guys, the day I got off Reddit was the day I started living again. Shits self-righteous cesspool.
Same.
I am addicted I can't stop :(
What are some good alternatives?
@@ssous206going outside and talking to people
@@ssous206 being realistic
It is extremely ironic that a subreddit dedicated to criticizing the corruption of wealthy elite bosses itself became an example of elitist mod abuse. The mods even talked to each other to prevent word of the corruption spreading to other subreddits
Just Reddit for ya
Followed the course of all communist governments, funnily enough
Irony finds its way.
Power does tend to corrupt people
Power corrupt. And they probably such loser irl so the little fake power they get will corrupt them very fast
The fox news interviewer didn't even ask a hard question lol. A subreddit about antiwork didn't put any work in preparing for an interview, who would of guessed.
*would have
@@qbasic16 you really showed 'em. about 30 days late
For a news network known for being full of batshit crazy anchors, I'm actually surprised by how well Jesse handled the interview haha
If you won't do something because a boss tells you to, you won't do anything for any reason.
@@aljo8200 be gottem though
Antiwork lived and died by the Reddit principle. They grew by bitching and moaning to the void and making stuff up for karma, and died from the biggest fear of any redditor: being seen as cringe.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
I may be cringe, but i am free
r/cringetopia I do not have such weakness
The 'Work' explaining videos of Some More News are perfect to watch
after this video here.
@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 pfp sauce?
Doreen could have talked about:
* How the minimum wage has not kept up with inflation
* How the median family income has not kept up with inflation for ~40 years
* How workers should be afforded basic human dignity
* How no one should have to work 3 jobs for 60+ hours a week and still be unable to make ends meet
Instead, she argues:
"Laziness is a virtue 🤡"
were you really expecting much from a redditor who is also an alleged rapist
@@bitterman7258 Good point lmao
I mean, there was a huge influx of people joining the workforce circa like 70 or 80s. Aka women. More people = more job competition = wage crush. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. Just means that couples will both have to work.
"she"
@@benshiotsu8553yes that is a bad thing because then you'll have to pay strangers to raise your kids.
Moderators complaining about corruption in politics, news, etc. being corrupt themselves by not allowing others to voice their opinion that differs from them is the funniest shit I have ever seen.
I bodied ghost in my reaction video to this
@@drdavinsky Good thing you didn't literally body him, your 800 pounds of pure reddit mod physique would instantly crush him into a pancake
@@EnbyOccultist I’m 180 pounds and 6 foot. Cope tho
@@drdavinsky can we see what u look like
@Dr Davinsky You sound so pathetic
Being a moderator on r/antiwork was too much work
>he does it for free
@@bestdrunkdriver The 'Work' explaining videos of Some More News are perfect to watch
after this video here.
>anarchist moderator
>Comes up with a complex hierarchical method of how and who is allowed to post
Lol
Sounds like anarchism if you ask me
AmIright guys?
Anarchy doesn't mean there is no hierarchy, just no unneccessary hierarchy.
@@TheSorrel it means there is no rulers, and for rulers to exist you need a hierarchy, as hierarchy means there is a divide between common masses and the ruling class.
Of course politically it doesn't work on a large scale so people came up with fancy excuses why in some anarcho-x society everyones opinion matters, some people will just matter more and have the last word. But it's totally not rulers, amirite
@@MyRkAcc Like I said, the Idea is to have a hierarchy where it makes sense. For example, a Ship needs a captain, a project needs a manager and a movie needs a director.
But these roles only apply for the work that everyone is doing and nobody has any power outside of the role that he has been assigned to by vote, and if he fails to fulfill that role, his power can be taken away easily and given to someone else.
You know, like a democracy.
They literally admit to being lazy anarcho-communists in their “about” page.
>Is the face of the Anti-Work movement
>Works as a dog walker
>Wants to teach Philosophy
Yeah this is Reddit alright
Probably walks his grandma's dog once a week and she let's him stay with her.
@@BoleDaPoletruuuuue
You forgot:
>she/her
Which I immediately knew was coming after seeing the female avatar.
@@gurriatohuh? That's a dude?
I really don’t know much about this at all, but judge the argument not the person.
Just how you eventually will find a monkey that has accidentally written Shakespeare if you have enough monkeys, morons can make good arguments and geniuses can make bad arguments even if both are unlikely.
Isn't it weird that, this mod guy was the *exact* person I expected both in terms of appearance and personality?
The Reddit moderator meme is popular because its true.
And the way he swings his chair lol like an 8 year old
@@HelderGriff If you think the way you move your chair denotes your maturity level you might not be so mature yourself...
He looks like he smells like I'd expect a Reddit mod to smell like
How's that for a tongue twister
@@alexsm3882 Aaron is referring to the fact that the chair swing is fidgety, they also never look up which makes them appear inexperienced, anxious, and the lack of self-awareness of this is rather infantile.
I think one VERY important detail of this narrative that is missing is that *before* the interview took place (or was even planned) the rank-and-file of r/antiwork took a vote and collectively decided TO NOT ENGAGE WITH MEDIA, specifically to avoid this shit. Then Dorene went and did it anyway, for clout, behind the movement's back.
I don’t know, I do think it should be included but it shows a massive disconnect between mods and the people on the subreddit which the video laid out that message.
From what i know, the mods and group that started this sub was really lazy bunch(hence the sub name Anti-work) and somehow the sub has many ppl who actually care more about social wellfare joined later
So it totally make sense when the mods ignored the vote and went straight with the interview. The mods and the user base is basicially two different group
@Daniel McKraken Better commentary on how corrupting power can become than any amount of regurgitating the same quote
@@askovtk4834 they accidentally made a sub named after a real philosophy and got mad when people started talking about that philosophy
Someone will represent you like it or not. So why not send the best?
You forgot one if my favourite parts. The mod that got "kicked" came back. A new account that was only a day old was made a mod and people knew straight away it was the same person. When confronted and told to leave a general "no way, im here to stay" response was given.
you know the username? I just checked and u/abolishwork has completely deleted *his* account lmao
@@IHavAnAkimbonr Na I don't remember it but if you can get a Mods list from antiwork its the one thats only a few weeks old unless they've hidden it or something.
@@partypete2542 I checked. There is one ~1 month old account but as far as I can tell, its not him :/
narrator: he did not stay
@@IHavAnAkimbonr *her :)
This was truly surreal to watch unfold in real time. If Fox News had a literal actor playing a strawman of a Redditor it would have been a less absurd character than the actual mod they found
When it came to light that the creator got several rape accusations the reddit went nuts
And the mods were banning them initially on the notion that they were being "transphobic". Bro I didn't know pointing out someone's a sexual deviant and assaulter that I'm being transphobic.
The interviewed janitor was also a sex weirdo and another was into gay incest.
@@cl570 facts
@@cl570 Apparently they locked their reddit because of "brigading"
@@cl570 some people were using the situation as an excuse to be transphobic and promote the negative stereotypes that exist of the LGBT community being pedophiles.
I got booted from r/antiwork when I suggested that I wasn't pro-communism, I was about pro-worker. It was like 50 dislikes and booted.
Wow it's almost like capitalists don't like breaches of contracts too
Communism is for gays which ironically makes up alot of the subreddit 😂😂
@person person it's like dividing by 0
@@mr.congeniality8803 As a libertarian I can respect your end goals and your pursuit of them because clearly that's just your self-interest. While I can't exactly agree with your ideology at least we can both see reddit for what it is. An absolute pile of trash.
I’m pro-communism and pro-worker. The mods on r/anti-work were lazy anarchists, marxists believe that in a socialist society people still have to work. As Lenin once said “he who does not work shall not eat”. Labor is good and anarchism is dumb.
I used to sit around all day not doing anything and feeling shitty.
Turns out all that stress was just me subconsciously hating myself for not doing anything, imagine that.
Bro, glad im not the only one
I finnaly get a day off? Nah lets feel awful
I’ve worked a contract that ended a month ago & I’ve been looking for new jobs ever since (been having good luck lately with interviews though). I gotta say while having a few weeks out of work may be nice if you can afford it, it really does get old & you really do feel like working again.
*I'm in this post and I don't like it.*
IME, I need a balance. I work to feel productive, and once that's done, I'll happily waste away a whole day on enjoyable leisurely activities.
But doing nothing all day everyday just sounds depressing. I'm a pretty lazy person, so having a day to do nothing productive (just enjoying my time, watching movies, playing games, hanging with friends, etc) even multiple weeks, is really enjoyable, but I still need to know I've been productive. Free time is a reward, one that I'll work to achieve.
@@kirin1230 it is, i am from a nation that has a bunch of "problems" a south america one, and no matter where i throw my CV i can't get a job, i used to do some construction and everything else, i am university student who simply wants to help it's family... This feeling is a f****** shit
In New Zealand decades ago, a large group of hippies bought some land so they could just live off the land and not work (instead grow their veges etc so they weren't forced to work for an employer). It was a disaster because the hippies didn't want to work in the vegetable garden or cook so nothing got done. Turns out not doing any work results in nothing being done.
I think the idea of "Not working" is more of the idea that you should be doing what you love. "If you get a job you love you'll never have to work again." Philosophy. If the hippies dream was to live of the land then more power to them, but they should have actually did care for that land and not sit down and not do that.
Yea.
@@PineappleDealer37 good point.However what the hippies in this case seemed to love was the fantasy of the land providing every desire without any effort.
living off the land is hard, and not for the lazy.
@@kaiserzaiser5002 Well, I'll say that living of the land in the way they wanted is probably possible, but likely the most difficult of all of them. There's a reason before agriculture people had to travel all the time in search of food.
"Laziness is a virtue." I could never get my dad to buy into that.
It is sometimes. Especially for people that just cannot stop being a bust body and can't sit down and relax for more than 5 mins. There's a fine balance between laziness and hard work. Working to Hard is bad for you, but so is being too lazy. You need a bit of both.
@@monsterhuntervideos4446 theres a difference between laziness and rest
Honestly, lazy people can get creative af just to avoid work they have to do
Laziness isn’t a virtue but I’m sure a natural at laziness. Good news I’m hard working too hahahah
@Dragonax , There are different types of lazy people and active people. Someone who is lazy and smart can find innovative ways around obstacles. Antiwork is lazy and dumb.
Even as a lazy person myself, I still wouldn’t join that movement.
Well said, fellow slacker.
@@BugBoss1205 slack on these nutz
I'm too lazy to join a movement
Sounds like too much work
Everyone should be willing to join a workers rights movement for work reform but straight up "anti-work" is cringe
I used to follow that sub because I'm all against corporatism and toxic corporate culture.
However, I decided to leave once people started harassing me for saying that I was *not an anarcho-communist,* saying I did not belong on the page and eventually they just banned me for mocking them.
Like, these people really thought everyone who wants better working conditions is part of a fringe, radical ideology. Lol, glad I left.
Welcome to the left
liberalism=/= the left, some people don't understand that.
History has proven that most, if not all more radical left movements fall apart to infighting, if not they transform into a strongman cult to prevent this from happening and become what they once hated. It is amusing to observe this cycle even in modern day.
@@dhv2852 Agreed. Liberalism has an inherently individualist philosophy, so of course it doesn't connect with any collectivist ideology, which is what most people mean when referring to "the Left"
Funnily enough, "Liberal Conservative" isn't an oxymoron if you're using those words correctly.
The left commandeers and destroys everything created with good intentions.
The fox news guy’s shit-eating grin was the funniest thing I’ve seen in so long.
I remember lurking around the sub when I was working a shitty job at a movie theater with low hours, low pay, and a whole lot of bullshit. I fully support work reform ideas like providing better benefits, the 4-day workweek, etc. But I really did start to realize that a good portion of the subreddit was karma whoring and NEET people who wanted to justify their laziness. I hate that the subreddit has tarnished what was originally a pretty good thing. I think people in the US (as well as other countries) worship work culture too much to the point where it becomes unhealthy. Antiwork started as something against that. It reminded people that there was more to life than working a shitty job for jackshit pay and that "things are worse in other countries" isn't a good excuse. Sure, could be worse but I don't think Americans are "spoiled" just because they want better pay and management that doesn't use them as a step ladder. Of course, Reddit has to ruin everything it touches one way or another
I am absolutely in support of work reform. But one thing I’ve learned is that you can’t just jump the shark and state your eventual goals at the very beginning. Prime example: Abraham Lincoln. Always had the plans for abolition and civil rights in mind, but didn’t say them outright until the social climate was ready. Be like a sniper in the bushes. Move slowly, advancing towards your goals with mind to your surroundings, but don’t waste it all trying to accomplish everything immediately. Accomplishing it later is better than never accomplishing it. Now r/antiwork was a completely different story. The idea that people shouldn’t work is wishful thinking at best and malicious delusion at worst. I’ve seen people in this comment section say that laborious jobs should be automated. This is a terrible idea that every fat cat billionaire would leap on if they had the chance, so the fact that the reformers themselves are pushing it is hilarious to me. That would deprive the working class of all its power over the wealthy. Labor unions can work because businesses can’t just do that. You can get better workers’ rights because you work in those conditions and exploit your hold over your employers. Having humans in manual jobs be replaced by robots is a dystopian idea for a reason. It’s the most power we have over the upper class, and no one but a fool would sacrifice it for convenience. What we should do instead is find ways to make these jobs safer, to incorporate more skills into them, change it from a menial, mindless slog to one where people can exercise some talent. Of course, benefits, higher pay, more reasonable hours, better vacation time, pensions, should all be ideas we should be pushing forward.
I do agree that work culture has warped from “we’re WILLING to work harder than anyone else because we find virtue in hard work and effort” to “everyone should work as hard as they can or else.” There’s a study I saw conducted by a preschool that tested whether positive or negative reinforcement was more effective in adults. Surprisingly, contrary to popular belief, the study found that positive reinforcement is far more effective than negative reinforcement. The test revolved around what would better encourage parents to pick up their children at a time better for the staff. The first test was where the preschool announced that if parents were late to pick up their children, they’d have to pay a fee. This actually resulted in either mostly the same or even slightly less parents picking their children up at the right time. The second test was where they changed their policy and announced that if parents were early to pick up their children, the child would receive a cookie. Many more parents picked up their children on time than both before the policy changes and while the first one was implemented because the child gave positive feedback to their parents, and the parents were more willing to come for their child to receive a reward than they were to avoid a consequence. The point I’m making is that I think that benefits and positive reward for good work ethic would actually be more effective at generating better work ethic.
But you may be wondering why I framed my argument as to how it would benefit employers. Well, you want to get employers on your side or at least less opposed to these ideas, so telling them the positive impact these policy changes would have for them will be more effective than brute forcing it. The best way to defeat an enemy is to 1. not make an enemy of them in the first place, or 2. get them on your side. If we can frame our arguments this way and find solutions that produce positive outcomes for both parties, we will accomplish far more than by simply looking for what benefits one party the most. Well, that’s enough rambling from me.
Trust me, there's a difference between an aggressive workaholic ethic and simply being grateful for having a job or finding a job you enjoy. You're not gonna find any first gen immigrants rallying to abolish work in the U.S. lmao it's the stupidest shit I've ever heard, funniest thing is the kids behind these movements have worked in places that even have A.C. for fuck's sake. Try roofing in the middle of July or working a nursery job to help support your family knowing you're the only thing they can depend on. Honestly it makes me sick how it's gotten to the point where 'hustle' culture is frowned upon and people who like working hard to achieve their goals a little faster are almost shamed now, this would only happen in a first world country where people have to look under the rocks for a reason to cry about.
@@indigocloud8408 I had a roofing job yes it sucked. And it was a little asinine when the owner was a new widow wouldn't even invest in her fleet of trucks while she raped in every penny of profit of the company, while refusing to let her employees get time off for important matters. I'm not surprised that it declared bankruptcy.
@@thegrapethief5514 Call me cynical, but I don't trust corporations to act buddy-buddy with labor reformists. Hell, I just watched the 5th anti-union training video at my job this year. Maybe in smaller businesses change can come around faster, but larger companies are bogged down with shitloads of bureaucracy and penny-pinching. Just look at the countless labor strikes in the past 20 years. The only reason companies actually bothered to do something (even if it was just for PR) was because the lack of labor was directly cutting into their bottom line. Many companies will just take a signed petition and plop it into a shredder while claiming "we'll work on it."
Sadly though, it's becoming more and more apparent that low labor jobs are being replaced by robots. Why wouldn't they be? Robots don't get sick, they don't need lunches, and the cost of maintenance is usually cheaper than paying employees for the output of productivity. Sooner or later though, the 1% are gonna realize that there is no more middle class to buy their products. Therefore, they'll have to either find another way to make money or actually pay attention to the shrinking middle class.
@@ethereal231 neither do I. But it’s not like brute forcing it is going to work either. Way I see it, they’re only going to do the bare minimum and try to keep their profits at maximum, so really the only way to convince them to do anything is to either crack down super hard, which is becoming harder to do with corps like Disney and Amazon, or speak to them in a language they understand, which is profits. They’re obviously never going to willingly change their policies, but they’ll at least be more open to the idea once they’re under intense pressure if they think they can get out of it with as much money as possible.
I actually don’t see that happening too much. What I DO see happening is low end jobs being outsourced to countries like China and Vietnam. Because what’s even cheaper than paying to make or maintain robots? Using actual slaves, or people paid so little they might as well be slaves. And when you have a population as big as China, replacing an injured or dead worker is extremely easy. I’m not an economist, so I’m not going to make any crazy predictions, but maybe this Amazon union is a sign of something. I’d simply prefer to remain hopeful and focus on the possibility for positive change instead of just letting things happen. I find cynicism to be a boring outlook on life, so pardon me if I seem a little too hopeful. I just don’t see the point in talking about problems without thinking of solutions.
Every week, Reddits gives us even more proof of why a society made by Redditors would last a month at best, and in the worst case scenario, burns down on the first week
Chaz?
@@vanillabatcave5677 That was an amalgamation of Reddit and Twitter. It managed to last as long as it did not because of love amongst the community, but because of the hate towards outsiders.
A xenophobic bunch, indeed.
Bold of you to assume it would even last a day
@@rushink That and active support and protection from Dem politicians.
Worst case? You mean best?
I’m not even a real supporter of all this anti-work ideology and even I could make a better argument than that mod did. How did anyone think that was a good idea
They didn't one annoying mod broke off from the others and came on to rant and rave to fox news, because they were a part of the subreddits "old guard" who had been around before it had been co-opted by people wanting fair wages and such. There was always a great disconnect between the mods and everyone in the sub.
@@griggorirasputin6555 what was wrong with old guard exactly?
Does this guy look like a person who has good ideas to you? Exactly.
@@BlueTyphoon2017 Well the subreddit seems to have been coopted by people who wanted better working conditions and pay, but at first it seemed to be people who thought they shouldn't have to do any work at all, and whatnot. Why do you ask?
They're all cringe on that sub. Get in the wage cage and eat the bugs.
went from a subreddit that wants to make ur average 9-5 not as terrible, to a loser circlejerk that doesnt want to do work for a living
"Laziness is a Virtue"
i'm from a third world country and work my ass off just to pay off rent and have enough food.
this shit was like a slap on the face
unless youre an engineer. then your specific brand of laziness is when youre willing to do really ridiculous things just to avoid the one thing you dont want to do.
Do you want your life to be this way? Workin all day and not having enough food?
It's a slap in the face to want you to have a better life?
@@f5673-t1h well your not going to get a better life by not doing anything.
@@f5673-t1h The problem isn't wanting better workers rights, but calling lazyness a virtue
@@joaquimbarbosa896 VERY few people are actually lazy. They need psychological help.
Most so called lazy people are just tuned out from a punishing and unrewarding work ethic and workplaces. Work reform can help get rid of the conditions that make people call others lazy.
Doctors and nurses had to work overtime during these past two years, and somehow Redditors thought they had it worse
Hospitals were vacant this whole time. Not to defend the plebbitors, but it is what it is.
@@alternateperson6600
They were? Over here they were filled to the brim the last time I went there for Bronchitis.
@@alternateperson6600 Having several people in my family who badly needed hospitalization over the past two years who couldn't find treatment, I am going to have to point out that is not correct for the central and south US of A at least.
I used to work in a kids hospital! I seen this first hand
@@alternateperson6600 Wrong.
“The basic Reddit mod salary”
One useless Reddit award an hour?
Jannies do it for free.
Actual nothing. Mods do what they do for free, or for the power trip.
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Clean it up jannies
when you get something for free, you get what you pay for
@must Kill star From $0 to $000.00
You knew the moment Jesse was grinning in the interview, that was a look that said "This worked out better than I thought and I got this fool in more ways than one."
watched it live and that part made me laugh so hard my chest hurt
Living unemployed without any actual job drives you up the wall, I can easily imagine wanting a better job but to permanently sit around and do nothing sounds awful. I get working on tangible hobbies that require effort and skill but they just straight up only really want hedonistic activities and habits, not many are saying "I would like an economy where I have the financial mobility and freedom to work as an independent craftsman instead of selling my soul to a company" or "I'd love to work in some form of food service if only it had fair pay and less habitually stressful conditions as well as management backing up employees against customer abuse". They just want to sit around and play vidya while eating whatever weeb snack they've decided on today. This is why you dont let Redditers represent anything that requires adult thinking and responsibility.
Those people just assume that you'll be happier by spending all your free time gaming and being on Reddit
As someone who's job is just being the incompetent owner of a very small European business with nothing to do but take calls and chill out, it makes coal mining sound fun, honestly.
Nah m8 they're just working on their "mental trauma"
If you've got nothing that fulfills your life then yes. I could read so many books, be in the gym all day long, do fun things with my girlfriend... The list never ends. If you just sit on your ass you're gonna wanna kill yourself
I've been there back then when at first I didn't want to seek job after I graduate (I want to took some time off after finishing study) and yeah... it's not fun, even if you have lot of saving/financial help from your family to support your "jobless" life
@@zyncra3965 or start shit on the internet
Watching a dog walker being the face of the movement while there are people forced to work to pay endless loans they were forced to take just for them to survive is the most reddit moment I've seen
nobody is "forced" to take a loan lmao
Fucking hell they could’ve sent like half of the guys I used to know when I worked on a construction crew. Long hours brutal conditions inadequate pay dangerous environments abuse from company and coworkers and then high financial stress and more. I would’ve definitely told you at the heartstrings of Fox News and its conservative core audience to get stories about how all American art managers can work 50 hours a week with their hands literally building the country and still have to selectively pick which bills they pay or what day is they don’t eat in order to make it by. Absolutely nobody’s going to be making fun of a mid 50s crane op Who reveals that they have to walk 4 miles every single day to and from work because thdy had to sell the car to barely avoid foreclosure. Showing a parade of stories like that all the help people who worked hard and did everything right somehow we’re not only not making up an actively falling more and more by the day that would’ve been perfect to justify the message not some lazy troon who is just infinitely pathetic and contemptible.
The part that kills me is dog walking is pretty lucrative if you put in the work. I know someone with a degree that dog walks and dogsits and makes around 60k.
>forced to work to pay endless loans they were forced to take
kill me
It's also an irony that shows a class struggle, between the lordship of mods and the rest of the peasants.
I love the idea of blaming fox news for what they've been doing for 26 years.
“Its all Fox’s fault!” They cry, even though Fox allowed them to choose who got to be interviewed in the first place.
Fox news was bad faith towards a group that disagreed with their super conservative pro-capitalist ideology?
*suprised Pikachu face*
What's even funnier and makes the subreddit more ridiculous is Fox didn't use their usual aggressive tactics when talking with people. They literally let the mod make an ass of themselves. It would have happened with or without Fox.
@Paul Martin Guess that side of the sword was a little duller than the other
@@frocco7125 Yeah, they asked the super difficult questions that make you look bad:
What do you think?
What do you do for a living?
What would you do with your free time?
What would you teach?
"Most reddit mods are powermods."
I got banned from reddit for saying "nice BMW" on the Toyota forum after someone posted a picture of a Supra.
Was it trollish? Yes, in the lightest way possible. The car is literally >90% BMW parts and made in Austria by a BMW contractor. I had the whacko idea that people should talk about cars made by Toyota in a Toyota sub.
Banning someone for writing that? LOL. Reddit is worthless.
They will get humbled by someone in real life eventually
@@thatgushiekid1662except for the fact that they don’t have enough real interaction to get put in their place
I once posted something in the Jordan Peterson subreddit and it got me autobanned from being able to interact with (post/comment) almost all of the major subs. They REALLY hate that guy, but even his sub declined in quality, along with the other few that I actually liked. Getting rid of Reddit was one of the best things I did.
I mean, it's not like the site would have got any worse without trolling
@@tiagodecastro2929 Ew, someone wo likes Jordan Peterson should be banned from life, and it is coming from someone who is permabanned from reddit
Where I work (Walmart) they literally have a contingency plan for strikes. They fire all the employees that are striking and bring in workers from nearby stores by offering them a raise.
That's really fucked up. Makes it all the more unfortunate that something like this fell through. 21st century leftists find a way to ruin fucking everything. Gone are the days of Cesar Chavez. If they had kept the momentum up and not let themselves be overrun with tards, r/antiwork could have actually lead to some huge reforms with the amount of people they reached.
Don't work at Walmart lol
@@ratasslordofyoink4542 Walmart also has a _lot_ of employees on food stamps so our taxpayer dollars are subsidizing their workers' wages, so don't even shop at Walmart either
That guy single handedly set back workers' rights in the US by 200 years.
Sad how true this is. I’ve heard boomers talk about this interview. Not a good sign.
@@treysonmcgrady4750 Imagine 80 hours a week being the new norm instead of 40 hours just because of that interview lol
@@its_johnH and they go back to 1930s pay with 2021 prices
@@chuckyyes At this point companies should have rooms for workers to rent in the building they work because prices are way too high to buy a house or an apartment.
@@its_johnH I already gave up. I wasn't getting anywhere didn't make much for an apartment. Atleast I'm not a shmuck helping some selfish asshole achieve his dreams by exploiting me
Anti work was originally ranting about bad management practices and awareness of how to confront/solve shitty work culture. Then "abolish work" crowd came around
I am half convinced r/antiwork is now an elaborate creation of the Babylon Bee
@@zigzog5786 top notch trolling like the anti-madturbation device one of the creators made a page to sell that got lots of attention
@@zigzog5786 God I wish
Reddit crowd in antiwork really tried to take themselves seriously, but anyone with 2 braincells that realising this is reddit thinks otherwise. But they still manage to disintegrate in a brilliant fashion
@@Sevastous Front Page Reddit communities are like stars. They’re made up of the same materials, they repel or destroy anything that comes near, and they’re even worse after they’re past their prime.
In retrospect, im almost proud of how fast i got permabanned from reddit
I collect bannings like merit badges, and I’m not even that big of an asshole.
I got permabanned for saying " a grown man shouldnt be allowed to flash his wiener at little girls just because he claims to be a woman"
What I got from this is if I'm against pedophilia, I'm transphobic
@@leunamreyo3663 Being Transphobic is inheretly being anti-pedophile
@@norikofu509Pretty much nowadays. Like it is...shockingly prevalent, and there's an awful pattern of these trans movements or individuals specifically targeting children for either indoctrination or acceptance. Really activates the almonds in your brain, doesn't it?
I got banned for calling someone the N word because at the time I believed I was trans and fought against the "superstraights" who I was misled into believing they were transphobes. I now realize that I'm not trans and that I'm one of these people (even if their communities were destroyed) due to seeing what bottom surgeries and most trans people look like. In retrospect, I'm super glad I got banned from Reddit because it got me out of the echo chamber, especially since my IP address was perma banned, meaning I could never come back, meaning I was permanently out of the echo chamber.
Reddit and Twitter go hand to hand when it comes to the toxicity of people.
Where is a not toxic platform?
@@papyrusthegreat457 well,no one
But youtube is like the least toxic
@@tuerculosisgaming6307 lol
This thread gave me an aneurysm
@@papyrusthegreat457 pornhub probably
im surprised single parents, disabled people, and sweat shop workers were not in antiwork
Because they know better, lol.
Too busy working to spend on reddit
Oh, there were plenty of disabled people in there. That moderator for example.
They actually have jobs and no time for scrolling Reddit
@@RoflcopterLamoI shouldn’t laugh at that 💀
Had a professor last semester in a literature class who was anti-work. He seems like the "work should be optional" type of anti-worker. He made some good points about the bad parts of work, more specifically that the entry level and non-office workers "are in constant agony" due to a term he coined "cruel optimism" and the middle-class office workers are either working bulls**t jobs, or they're working themselves to death.
He seemed like the ungrateful type. I'm not trying to be the guy who is saying "it's not that bad for the blue collars." because I know it often is bad and I wouldn't dare say that the "if you work hard enough" argument holds up in more than 25% of its cases. My only issue with his "work should be abolished and voluntary" ideology is that A: even Descartes had limits to how high of a scale his philosophy was practical (and therefore tried to think/work within those limitations) and B: it sounds like he has never worked either of the two jobs and has only been in education or working as a professor/odd jobs.
TL;DR: anti-workers, however smart, can be summed up in the phrase: "Well, SOME-one's bitter." (and ungrateful)
Don't you love it when people who make good points also happen to make really bad points that color all the good points as equally crazy
Antiwork users: I work with industrial machinery and work on a desk for majority of my life
Antiwork mods: I walk a dog 20 hours a week
Most of their users aren't working class
The working class is majority very conservative and takes alot of pride in their work.
Source : worked a part time job during college at a construction site
Source is also demographic statistics, these people are commies, and most of them according to a Reddit survey on r/socialism, which will now get you banned for mentioning, are single, virgin, jobless tankies and wastes of space with rich parents.
Let's not even talk about the fact that a decent size of the subreddit was, in fact, jobless.
@@hellobruh4209 Couldn't that depend on the state you live?
@@randomduck8679 Or like.. country?
When i joined r/antiwork, the subreddit was more about sharing stories of bad management or just plain stupidity in workplaces, like ironic tales of bosses and manager actually creating "Anti" work by making stupid decisions / behaviors , then it became a movement to congratulate laziness and "everything is the problem but me!" kinda mentality so i just left... when from a enjoyable fire place to a landfill pretty quick
The mods done you dirty.
@@bensoncheung2801 0.00/hr LUL
No it didn't, it's still the same of the former. I learned a lot about OSHA mandates, DoL jurisdictions, and other laws in place that a lot of these scummy jobs try to dance around from Antiwork. Even at-will employments need to adhere these laws and most of the time they prey on people's ignorance which people of the sub exposes. Idk why you feel the need to lie for likes lol.
@@anthonyandrade5071 lmfao, it’s filled with a bunch of lazy good for nothings who would balk at the concept of working an honest day in their lives.
If you want to learn about that shit, read a book
it’s a vent sub, the vast majority of posts and users are just kids finding out that they indeed have to work for a living to make ends meet. there’s a real lack of posts about genuine workplace abuse.
I knew he had to eventually do this topic. Reddit definitely is a gold mine of cringe and stupidity to laugh at
I want to see an episode on Tronaldodumpo
How is it cringe and stupid?
@@frocco7125 oh god, I had personal experience with him.
Pretty sure someone could do a whole research paper on human behavior and power just by going on Reddit. It’s literally the greatest, most obvious example we have of how fringe groups entirely hijack large groups and how a few people in “power” abuse it to the absolute limit when given the chance
@@PSL416 So true, I think that would be an interesting thing to research tbh, it’s human nature at its finest. It’s kind of like “Absolute power corrupts absolutely.”
My antiwork roommate calling me an oppressor when I ask her to do her own laundry: 🤬🤬🤬
Why would you ask ppl to do things that only affects them,tho?
@@atanaZion here are a few guesses
the roommate could have been keeping the laundry on the floor and the op could have tripped on it.
the laundry could of have food crubs in it and was attracting bugs.
Or it could have just really stunk.
feel free to add any other ideas.
laundry tends to pile up@@atanaZion
@@kaiserzaiser5002 fair enogh
I can’t believe he didn’t do any work to get ready for the intervi-
… wait.
😂
TRUEE
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Man people read that top post and (even considering it's fake) don't see OP as being completely unreasonable? Like the boss didn't even say anything wrong but the employee goes crazy over it and writes him a lefty meme before quitting. Maybe we're just supposed to infer that he was treated unjustly offscreen, cause I don't get that from the picture at all
Its because the whole environment is already doused with similar posts people are just quick to jump into it and half-ass support it without even reading too much into it
It’s a layered issue man, we live in a crazy convulsed world, there’s a decent chance that it was someone working to undermine the movement. By posting a bunch of unreasonable BS as if it’s logical it makes the general public miss the message of what you’re actually trying to achieve.
For example, if I wanted to discredit Pro-choicers I would make an account on a pro choice forum with views saying “we should be able to kill children after they’re born as long as it’s 24hr after birth” and then some one who is pro life can screen shot it and say “see they literally want to murder children” bc making people on the fence think they’re crazy is easier than me trying to make them see eye to eye with me.
But also it’s Reddit, it very likely it’s entirely made up or that the poster is really just that removed from reality
@@Poopoopeepee217 you typed said leftist meme
Just a typical leftist coom stain who thinks they're entitled to other people's money
@@14TND88 I fail to see the "leftist" or "Meme" part of this, they just used Pro-Life Vs Pro-Choice as example.
The fact that the news anchor didn’t burst out laughing or really argued with her and just let her explain herself is basically the perfect setup for making someone look like a fool, he knows his stuff.
Her?
@@spiderfrog5764 It’s a Reddit mod.
@@yanhuideng8263 um, sweaty, that's MA'AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM...
The art of war:
"Don't interrupt your enemy while they are making a mistake."
*him, himself
Stop coddling mentally ill people
You cannot force him to prepare to the interview. He is antiprepare!
Like all good things are
first of all, if you are putting someone that needs to be prepared to do smtg, you picked the wrong guy
"Lying for fake internet points" Yes this describes 90% of Reddit.
90% of the internet
Yet so many people take Reddit stories at face value like rSlash. Even though I politely asked him to please not do that and defenders would make crappy excuses like “it’s his job” or something.
>21 years old
>"long term unemployed"
damn thats sad. imagine being 21 and deciding youre gonna just not work the rest of your life. shits gonna hit them at 40. probably even at 25 or 30 to be honest
and they'll think to themselves "why is life so unfair?"
the welfare state needs serious reform, these people are actual literal leeches
I don’t feel sad for them.
@@carlsagan2607 I don’t feel empathy for them, but im saying it’s sad what can happen to people who use the internet too much.
@@jacobm92 I see your point. Honestly, I should have gone into more detail I was short for time. I don’t feel sorry for those types of people because they are the wrong people representing what I thought wasn’t such a bad idea. They are an embarrassment to the everyday working people struggling with two jobs to feed their families and barely get by. People who are contributing hard to society and can’t even get decent healthcare without crippling them financially. I agree with people getting better compensation for their work, whether it be salary or at the very least healthcare. However, I do not support these groups of people that think them working 10 hours a week entitles them to 60k a year. Or that working in general shouldn’t be a thing and that they deserve a crap ton of money for being on their butts all day. Like I said, the idea is good, they just had the wrong people representing it.
Gotta admire Watters for being able to hold back his laughter by hiding it with a smile, I would’ve started laughing like those two fish from the Spongebob movie
“What’ll it be fellas? Mustard, or ketchup?”
My knee's is numb from the slappin!
Spongebob is always relatable.
When she said she was a dogwalker I could not stop laughing.
@@jahimuddin2306 she?
Yea but I don't really think he'd be in a position to laugh at a dog walker tho, as pathetic as that person was, he's a talk show host he doesn't do jack shit either
"And what do you do for work?"
"Im a dog walker"
*overly loud xbox intro plays*
(there was an xbox ad)
What's wrong with being a dog-walker?
@@tonyennis1787 idk ? Maybe because it sounds like the least stressful job out there ?
I mean come on you get paid to walk dogs ! I'd do it for free
@@tonyennis1787 Just the lie that he is paying his expenses with it instead of paid by parents.
This entire situation confirms that Redditors don't know what they're talking about at all when it comes to politics
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Especially the case when over 50% of redditors aren't even Americans who love talking about American politics.
@@uragirimono6519 "🤓" - 🤓
A bunch of women joined Reddit from tumblr and turned those Redditors from incels to simps. This proves that they just listen to whatever authority figure tells them they are wrong.
Reddit is a place where people _sound_ like they know what they're talking about until you come across a topic you personally know a lot about and realize they don't know shit
Most of Reddit is completely mentally ill. It's a complete echo chamber as you said, everyone has to simply agree with EVERYTHING that is said. If you disagree or offer any controversial views, you're banned. Insecure people because people who can defend their stance, don't ban people.
I haven't logged back on in about a year for that same reason. It's nice, at first, to see all of the wildly different subreddits that exist, creating this facade of balance, until you start to notice all the top posts and replies sound like the same group.
I cannot stand echo chambers.
I think it depends on what you’re looking for. For example, I’ve been able to connect with communities centered around small indie games that I couldn’t find on any other platform (except for YT, but it’s harder to feel like your a part of a community here imo).
I don’t really get “echo chamber” vibes from the subs I go to, but I also have very specific groups I go to as well.
@@riptide3340 same man. I love reddit because I use it to connect to other people that enjoy the same things as me, such as mangas, animes, fitness and gym, skin routines etc. , plus it helped me a lot with english. But when I ventured outside on subreddits that weren't hobbies related, holy shit they are the most cringe worthy and stupid places ever, especially the big, generalist subreddits like "Askreddit", "Askmen/Askwomen" etc. Plus the average redditor seems to be obsessed with sex.
@@jasper_rose_8083 I agree with the big subs take. Anytime one becomes mildly popular, it goes down the drain. I could speculate as to why Reddit seems so obsessed with sex, but there’s nothing I could say that wouldn’t come off as incredibly rude lol.
@@jasper_rose_8083Well, you know how humans have desperately obsessed about unattainable things? Like the search for Atlantis, or the fountain of Youth, or the Holy Grail?
...keyword: unobtainable.
My family worked at kellogs for 4 generations. The real change there was a necessity; it went from the set for life job with benefits my grandpa had to minimum wage and no benefits. So glad it’s been partially addressed, but we have a ways to go
That's why this whole thing is so tragic. R/antiwork could have been used as a tool for actual change but it became your typical left-wing faux intellectual circle jerk.
Exactly , it goes into the work reformer category.
People don't realize how working conditions degraded since something like 40 years.
@@fanofcodd I think its just like what happened before the black plague, where back then there we're tons of people able to take a job and replace the previous person. Afterwards those rich people, after a chunk of the population was removed, needed to employ better policies to maintain the people.
From 1900 to today, the population of the USA shot from below 100 million all the way up to 350 Million at least. Populus of people boomed from both immigration and the invention of madeable nitrogen, why should a company need to pay exorbatent fees to their employess if government is persaude minimum wage is alot lower then what is even needed? And redistrubute that money to stockholders for their public company since they need infinite growth and line their pockets. They don't need to pay John Doe that high wage as Jane Moe or Bob Boe can just come in and ask for that job that needs replacing, and even if they quit many more people are likely willing to work there.
@@Spiffyo A few years ago there was an exemple that was quite significant.
The exemple was about Mc Donalds , both in the US and in Denmark.
The price of the menus were the same for the customer , but the salary in the US was something like 12 USD with no benefits while it was 18 euros in Denmark , with health insurance included , unemploylent insurance etc etc. At a time when the Euro was like 30 % stronger than USD
And Mc Donalds was still making money in Denmark , they weren't loosing money.
Can it explain why the US is something like 45 in life expectancy and why Denmark was in the top 10 ? Ok maybe there are other problems like obesity or else , but still.
Only parasitism can explain the difference.
I maybe sound communist , but I own my own business and I'm a defender of free enterprise , but I despise predatory practice like this form of capitalism
@@fanofcodd I'll preface this for now, while I go to college, I'm a NEET imo. I've never had to work a min wage job, I've only heard stories and remember things from history and what it's done at the time and how it affects us now.
Mcdonalds chains in the US as far as I'm aware are 90% franchisees(People who own a building that can be under a prominent establishment like mcdonalds in this case), so Mcdonalds itself makes ton of money with minimal loss, the owners are either greedy or are just making enough money for some profit and keeping things in check or even going under.
Adding to this, my best assumption is how different rulings are in Denmark compared to the US, such as vacation weeks being 2 here while 4 or even 6 in those countries for example.
However it is possible that US Mcdonalds are either using shady and/or illegal tactics to keep their places in check. For example, in a standardcompany, you can tell your peers how much you make, but the higher ups hate this and while not illegal, they can write you up on any infraction to eventually fire your ass.
Court system are straight busted as well in ruling whose in the right, as the company could very well add charges to make you yield, or you just don't have the time to handle this. And even if you win theres cases like the infamous hot coffee incident(Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants) where Mcdonalds would later slander Liebeck and make it seem like her case was just her being pissy when in reality, the coffee induced third degree burns and melded her clothes to her melting skin.
This is happening across all of Reddit. People with takes that go against the echo chamber are banned. Not just banned in the subreddit. Perma'd. And if you go back or slip up and make a comment by mistake, perma'd.
I am _SO_ glad you mentioned AITA. I've been banned three times from that sub by power-tripping mods that make HOA board members look sane. Last time I got banned was a few weeks ago, because I "threatened" the OP by calling them an AH...in a sub dedicated to calling people AHs.
All Reddit mods are power tripping. That’s because they have no physical power irl.
Reddit mods would be Hitler or Stalin if given any modicum of real-world power. Their the most pathetic people
I've contemplated making a post on that sub called "You are the asshole" with a text body pointing out that if you need to appeal your side of a story to the most loser internet strangers on the internet to justify your behavior, there is a good chance you're the asshole.
But the only reason to throw more shit on a pile of shit is for fun, and it didn't seem like that much fun to me.
i pissed those power tripping mods off so bad I got banned from Reddit itself I'm not even kidding its a terminate ban
I was banned from all of reddit for saying that if people really did live pn saturn, they would want to invade us. No other infractions in 4 years and woke up to a ban.
The subreddit was doomed from the start. The entire message was inherently about promoting laziness and entitlement and shock, most people don't agree with those being virtues. Even on the left, people usually just want to be able to work under better conditions, not to just get hand outs and to not have to contribute anything, because most people understand that the world and society needs people actually doing work for anything to function.
Idk how people unironically believe in this shit
The folks who want fairer wages and work conditions could make a new subreddit and be free from the embarrassment, though considering how many r/antiwork users were just lazy geezers, it's unlikely that the subreddit would gain nearly as much traction.
Yeah, the stuff you find in there is just big karma whoring posts. I mean you could just literally faked a message about your boss and boom 20-70k updoots.
@@VeraVemaVena well a key reason is that most socialists don't have the time cause they are often working class and have to work alot just to make rent/feed themselves
@@VeraVemaVena "make a new subreddit" right... right before other powermods take over and make that sub absolute garbage...
The Jorge Masvidal flying knee is such a perfect representation of what Fox did to r/antiwork. Great video!
As somebody who suffers with severe mental health problems that makes it almost impossible to get a job, I personally think the whole subreddit was just kids larping at being revolutionaries without putting in the work. While I admit that society needs to improve how it treats labor and work as a whole, going about it in the way these Redditors did was a complete waste of time and just embarrassing to actual work reform organizations.
I did join that sub, I'm part of the Work Reform faction. Yes we have too many exploitative employers, underpaid employees who make a difference in society, companies that screw over average people, CEOs and C-suites who are paid way too much while average workers make next to nothing. We do need to address the issues with our work society as a whole.
You too huh? I suffer from Austim
@@lolstalgic9602 Same, complete disaster, basically unemployable without collapsing mentally. To Antiworks credit, the social reform side (this was long before it went to hell when I just checked every now and then) helped a lot to break my idea that work alone was where one's value was. So now I can actually get some self-satisfaction in helping family & friends day to day, plus entertaining people via streaming even if it's non-profitable.
But uh, yeah as a subreddit it failed miserably, as many popular subreddits do. Better off finding a local group working for welfare improvement and things like that if you, y'know, wanna actually contribute.
@@lolstalgic9602'Glad' to not be the only one
@@lolstalgic9602 REAL AS FUCK!
Also, fancy seeing you here bro. Then again I shouldn't have expected you to _exclusively_ appear in Brandon Yates comment sections.
Coal miners at Antiwork that day: "I thought this was supposed to be an Union"
It is, it’s just not one in bed with the mob.
@@passchen-fail3704 No, instead it's in bed with reddit mods...
I'll let you sort that one out.
@@tentacledood5784 The mob is less corrupt than Reddit mods.
So basically the problem is that this movement, like all things on reddit, devolved to the point where the initial messages of work reform got lost in the endless circlejerk of the terminally online. It was inevitable really. The moral of the story is this: "If you want to enact positive social change, don't try to build your movement on reddit, they'll just end up ruining your credibility."
Direct action has to happen IRL, if not then how is it direct, how is it action? It's indirect inaction lol
The initial message of the movement is right there in the title. "ANTIwork". They either mean for this shitshow to happen or they deliberately lured idiots with that outrageous concept. Either way, they reaped what they sow.
Even better don't even try in the first place
@@RyanReenBattikh ah yes,laziness is virtue.
@@RyanReenBattikhonline activism in general is rarely anything but pure cancer.
There is no amount of words that I can use to describe how great it feels to have a shitty day and to open my phone to see a new ghost gum video
LITERALLY this!
coffee coffee?
@@netkid5460 The 'Work' explaining videos of Some More News are perfect to watch
after this video here.
@@loturzelrestaurant Thanks for the recommendation!
You can't spell Reddit moderators without allegations.
The state of Humanity in Wall-E was a warning, not an ideal. But Antiworkers don't realise that
Even then they had a functioning society (sort of). People who just don't want to work are simply parasites that would be better off dead since they would just try to life off welfare without contributing anything back. They want to be literal parasites.
@@pyro111100 that is not true people who don't want to work are completely fine who cares as long as there not harming anybody plus the image of lazy people living off welfare is not true. you will get on average only 300 dollars a month on welfare. that is only 3600 dollars a year. which is not enough to live off of.
@@minutemaidhater oh hey Doreen fancy meeting you here
@@minutemaidhatercrime rates go brrrrr with unemployment
@@SneednFeed21 who is dorean
We've got to appreciate the fact that the host didn't even attack the dude, he just let him speak
Ps: you forgot to mention the fox news host played Ross in Friends in the 90s
Cause he knew he’d self destruct 😂
Isn't Doreen girl?
@@Snp2024 I think trans, but I forgot in which direction and I don't care enough to check
@@Snp2024 you really thought that was a girl?
@@ShawnfrostfromtheanimeInazumaE Lol you trippin'?
r/antiwork is what made me delete reddit from my phone.
I was there early. I loved what it was supposed to be about. It turned to shit. The mods, as always, fucked it. RIP old r/antiwork
Your username shows you're too clever for that website anyway
It was always supposed to be about abolishing work. It's right there in the title.
@@nashooo5903 the philosophy of abolishing work has nothing to do with abolishing labor. Work and labor are two different things. These boneheads wanted to get rid of labor.
@@harrylane4 what's the diference and why is it relevant? I assume you're not trying to bs me with the strict work deffinition as an energy transfer
Funny how antiwork mods ended up being just as corrupt as the bosses they shit on lmao
well, they didn't ad any real authority over anyone
The recent independent Amazon union just proved that even without large backing workers can have major wins , things just go to shit when reddit gets involved .
Surprised you didn’t mention the “AbolishWork” rape allegations. They basically added fuel to the fire, especially when she “admitted” to those allegations.
She WHAT????
You put sarcastaquotes on the wrong side term
She admitted like she was the victim but in actuality she was the rapist
It's there. Watch the last seconds of the video.
>she
“I’d teach philosophy. And yes, I do consider myself a community organizer and leftist leader despite never doing a real day’s work”
"community organizer" literally sounds like some discord/reddit mod shit they would actually say 💀
@@nexalusthegreat1630 Obama
What does Obama have to do with this?
@@korhol2065obamna.
That’s literally Karl Marx’s entire life there, he never did a day of work and wrote all about how the capitalists are keeping to themselves.
Even communists understand that you have to work 😭
I remember the rape allegation coming out about Doreen right after their sad af interview. They describe sexually assaulting their gf at the time and then claimed they were somehow the victim.
Typical trans individual.
@@hkd3453 typical reddit individual
Do you have any more information about it?
@Joe Green they them is a neutral pronoun
@Joe Green it's not incorrect grammar it's just ambiguous. But Please, by all means, keep getting triggered. Maybe get a hobby or something?
I got banned for "defending landlords" which isn't anywhere in the rules lmao. they were literally saying every single person who even rents a room out of their home is evil and should just let people love there for free...or not at all(free or they are homeless) lol. So random.
I mean, both capitalist and socialist thinkers share their common hatred for landlords (rentier).
Obviously it's impossible to get rid of landlords, when governments are pretty much the biggest landlords.
@@HO1ySh33t I was pretty much defending my mother who rents a room out of her house to help pay the bills. The dude she rents too is very thankful for a cheap place to stay. According to that subreddit my mother is evil and she should either let him live there for free, or not at all(aka kick him out) lol.
I agree people that rent out multiple houses for profit make it harder for Normal people to own homes and it would be cool of we could limit that some how.
@@MrRyankush43 whan you remember most land lord owns like one house and rent it for money they need because they got the house from dead grandma
Government is a shitty landlord most of the time.
@@MrRyankush43 bro thats just a roommate with extra steps
When has communism ever succeeded and not caused its own downfall?
What are you talking about? Communism always succeded and it's the best ideology. People just don't learn enough about it in school.
@@lasersummit7895 lmao
@@lasersummit7895 it'll always fail
You sound like steven crowders parrot, socialist and communist policies have worked very well everywhere they've been implemented, China, Scandinavia, and small projects in the US have shown that. A point often brought up by right wingers is Venezuela, where they act like America didnt assasinate the democratically elected leader and put in a dictator... Same goes for other communist or socialist countries, America always interferes and makes sure nothing happens
@Nobody comments are not funny you troglodyte socialism is when authoritarian capitalist, borderline fascist oligarchy
"It wasn't real Communism" moment
One thing you got wrong is anti work didn't choose that guy to do the interview. The mods voted against doing the interview at all, the guy who ended up going on Fox did it without consent from the rest of the mods, essentially going rogue.
*according to the Reddit moderators in damage control
Honestly these people literally bluepilled themselves into believing their own fake text stories. I guarantee they thought they were going to “own” Fox News epic style, and that was why Doreen got absolutely trashed.
@@SneednFeed21 good point. They might have bought their own BS only for their faith to be proven really wrong. If that was their best person, they never stood a chance.
@@SneednFeed21 ??? There are literally threads still up from before the fox news interview publicly discussing/voting on this. This stuff is all public record.
Jesse Waters is a based Chad level 90 Gamer. Imagine if that person went up against Tucker Carlson, level 99 Mafia Boss? It would've been even worse... all Jesse really did was smirk.
Nope. This is incorrect. The USERS of the subreddit didn't want anyone to do the interview. Doreen was handpicked by the mods as the best possible candidate, against their users wishes.
I didn't work a fulfilling full time job for like 8 years. Had a decent income from an online trade that required almost no work and it drove me nuts. I think a lot of people think that not working is the way to go but really; they've never tried it. It is aimless and depressing imo. Having too much free time isn't good. And these guys will always say "well then I can focus on my art or hobbies". Man I am telling you that you can only ride dirtbikes and play guitar and make edm songs for so long before you are bored. Unless you have the skill to go pro with one of these things; it is boring to most people.
A lot of these antiwork people claim that "I am just brainwashed by capitalism" but really I basically never had a real job for longer than a few months so I don't see how that is possible. The grass is greener on the other side, and the other side for me at this moment in my life; is Work.
I am sure a lot of these guys would say that my side hustle was too much work, when I find it to be not enough work. I do respect the difference in peoples abilities but really some people are just babies.
And I think there's a something between wagecucking at McDonald's for all of your life and never working at all, both will lead you to being depressed as hell and just because you're (understandably) tired of the wagie cagie doesn't mean you'll be happy by never doing anything
@@EllaEllaAudios honestly this
@@EllaEllaAudios For sure. I think with having a decent paying job, with my other income included is pretty damn good for me. Def not wagecuck wages and I can generally make my own hours half of the time. With the side income I have; I can essentially have a wagecuck job and make like 45k a year which isnt much but its def not wagecucking. I am currently trying to find a higher paying better main job currently. I also have MS and have a lot of issues with my mood and stuff but have managed to still make money comfortably.
Why always blame capitalism? Do they not know communism does the same in a different way? It doesn't matter if you have a different government form, if your politicians and government don't recognise basic human rights and privileges ideologies won't save you, only competency will
I have incredibly similar feelings when it comes to working, and I assume a lot of other people do as well. Sure when you don’t need to work the first week, maybe even 2 weeks is awesome, being able to do whatever you want whenever you want, but eventually you’ll just hit a brick wall and just feel completely empty until you find something productive to do again.
The worst of Reddit in my opinion is the Depression subreddit. It should be removed. All these people do is want and crave MORE negativity. Say anything remotely positive and these people will slam you with downvotes and shower anyone remotely trying to improve themselves or others, in pitty party piss. The Depression subReddits motto is as follows "Don't try to stop me from being miserable I love being sad 24/7 and making others feel hopless."
Absolutely agreed. I'm glad I've gotten out of there it's awful
The thing I really like about powermods is it proved just because your not royalty doesnt mean people wouldnt be despotic tyrants given the chance, and their lucky if they dont live under one because "A man who would deny another freedom deserves it not for himself"
i find it found it how antiwork was essentially a wagie cope sub but the members for some reason thinked it was a revolution or something lol
This is why people need to get off the internet. Go get a hobby, or go get some friends. Because being in an echo chamber makes you think your crap doesn't stink.
@A Normal Pedestal And Definitely Not A Mimic exploded factory worker would be laughing alongside with Fox News and be telling that person that they were paid too much
@@thefutureisnowoldman7653 an exploded factory worker would just be dead.
As someone who used to be active in r/antiwork, what made me leave was not the stupid mod. I was busy working to keep up with the news.
It was actually the rinse and repeat pattern of people posting emails/texts from dickhead bosses and owners with an upset caption and then you would see the same comments of armchair labor lawyers and other people repeating the OP's initial comments.
I realized that the were not wanting to actually DO something about it. They just wanted to complain and nothing else.
I suggested they make a Google Sheet with company names, location and states so there could he a database of who to never work for and I got censored by mods.
Eww redditor
Antiwork not wanting to put in the work? Never could've guessed.
Not wanting to actually DO something and just wanted to complain all day? That's just Reddit
For me the thing was once I actually bothered to better myself and make myself employable so better companies are hiring me I stop getting such wretched jobs with horrible treatment and conditions. I didn’t even have to work that hard I just had to get some basic working certifications from my local community college. Going from essentially disposable bottom and labor to even just a minimally valuable professional is like a whole new world. I want to say there is still plenty of progress yet to be made in so many ways things could be better but ultimately only you have the power to change your own situation. If work is also horrible at all it’s just so unbearable you need to do something to get yourself to a better place.
@@Mortablunt min wage would be 24 an hour had it kept pace with increases in productivity. that's without worker ownership which is what we should really have instead of min wage. even when making yourself "employable" you are being stolen from.
Trying to spread the message of antiwork ironically sounds like a lot of work.
Thankfully, as far as I’ve seen now, r/Antiwork has shifted to instead people complaining about horrible work conditions and fighting for better pay and less abusive environments, which is actually reasonable.
I've gone on the sub a few times recently and that seems to be what I see mostly, which is a movement I can get behind. I am very pro-Work-Reform and anti-exploitation
The interview was doomed from the start for choosing Fox News of all places to do it. Also chosing the worse moderator (apparently the mods have been known for years being all awful). Work needs a major overhaul here in the US since decades of labor reform have been stripped over the years and labor unions decreasing. I work in healthcare and we keep being fucked over hard (even doctors are now not making the money they use to make yet covid has only added to burning a lot of them out).
@Quo Hium shut up
The issue with Labor unions though at least in the US is many people don’t trust them anymore. Several high profile Unions had been expose for corruption and just taking advantage of there members, and of course workers began to lose faith in them and corporations start to take them less seriously losing there power and members. The Unions themselves need to start improving and not just be a front to exploit workers out of there money.
@Mcheetah exactly it seems people don't read facts anymore. As a former lurker of the subreddit it was mostly posts about ridiculous working conditions and abuse. The mod did the interview on their own and fucked it up. They weren't very smart either
@@brandonlyon730 Unions are the only to achieve reform
Unions are legal mafias. They take money from large groups of people and only help when a person catches media attention. Had my mom and all her coworkers punished for the acts of one person not doing their job and the union didn’t do shit