BMW X5 45e 10,000 mile review. Why PHEV beats EV for our family car

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  • This BMW X5 45e arrived at HG 6 months ago and we've now done nearly 10k miles in it. This video explains what we've learnt about running a plugin hybrid after living with a pure electric car during the previous 12 months.
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  • @kk.7177
    @kk.7177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +249

    Harry, the only person who will say out loud that charging is slow, and the engine in the front starts and spins ice cold. That's what we called a proper review!

    • @LMcars
      @LMcars 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      and glad he point that out. I had the occasion to try a x2 25e. Find out the petrol engine start to run on the highway at 90mph and 3000rpm... stone cold.

    • @radoslavdimitrov1101
      @radoslavdimitrov1101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      ... it looks like you guys are better engineers than the team BMW has 🥴 just saying... don’t go ballistic on me now 😃

    • @LMcars
      @LMcars 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ​@@radoslavdimitrov1101 I don't, don't worry. It's just a "mechanical feeling" as he say, when you gas on a cold engine. I guess they know what they are doing :)

    • @werbinich7908
      @werbinich7908 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@radoslavdimitrov1101 I once heard in an mercedes engineer interview that through the good lubrication of modern oil, suddlenly running the engine at these RPM isnt a big deal

    • @LMcars
      @LMcars 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@werbinich7908 interesting to know! Thanks :)

  • @lemonq6418
    @lemonq6418 3 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    I just like to hear him talk.

    • @jonathansmythe6273
      @jonathansmythe6273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      agree. And Iain Tyrrell

    • @stevep2710
      @stevep2710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed

    • @GenaF
      @GenaF 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I would love Harry to be a reader of audio books

    • @Robert-um2vb
      @Robert-um2vb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ...and fell asleep. 😉

  • @DouglasChrystall
    @DouglasChrystall 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Word of the day “ACE”, just like this channel.

  • @Kelveron
    @Kelveron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    Very useful real world experience on the use of a PHEV. Top clip, as usual, Harry.

    • @mrmartin2079
      @mrmartin2079 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely

    • @julianevans9548
      @julianevans9548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But 50mpg is not remarkable (a 1 litre, 3 cylinder Ford Focus does that). If one wants to make a 'green' car, make it a 1 litre, 3 cylinder (or similar) and then add the hybrid stuff. And don't make it needlessly huge. Its mpg would be much better, and it would be much better for the environment. And maybe - just maybe - then future governments won't feel such a great need (or have less of an excuse) to tax the hell out of petrol sports cars and the like.

    • @WascalSpiwit
      @WascalSpiwit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@julianevans9548 I get where you are coming from and completely agree, but its not really the same class of car, and if every cars was hybrid and lets say 35-50% of monthly miles are electric that's still a great improvement compared to older diesel SUV, its like the current progression of EV's all they do is make them faster, bigger and heavier, instead of lighter and more efficient. Who is ever going to need sub 2.0 sec to 60 mph.

    • @julianevans9548
      @julianevans9548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WascalSpiwit Yes, the obsession with fast EVs makes no sense. Make them efficient, and we can perhaps keep real sports cars, rather than milk floats that move at rocket speed (the novelty of that will wear off after four goes, I reckon).
      As for SUVs, almost nobody needs one. We never did; we still don't.

    • @Magnitio1
      @Magnitio1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Julian Evans when you factor in the amount of electricity used to charge the battery, the equivalent mpg is more like 37. Heavy cars with big frontal areas and poor aerodynamics are never going to be very efficient, even when purely electric. Many of the people who buy them have more money than sense.

  • @GlobetrotterZ8
    @GlobetrotterZ8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    We’ve had ours for three months now and are really loving it! Refined is definitely the right word to describe its long distance comfort. At the same time it’s very happy to be pushed a little harder on some alpine roads.

  • @larryhazlett1752
    @larryhazlett1752 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Harry, thanks for the top notch review. I purchased ours in October 2020. I’m still amazed at and in love with this car. I just found the manual mode and used the paddle shifters for the first time. What an absolute blast! Rides like a dream. Incredibly refined and quiet. Love it! Thanks again.

  • @beezcov10
    @beezcov10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoy Harry’s Garage . Always informative without any gimmicks .

  • @RickCT2000
    @RickCT2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Review - comprehensive, straight forward, honest - plus as always, entertaining!

  • @OC92
    @OC92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I am also an actual farmer in CA and this review was a massive help. I'm debating between this and the Defender and I think I can confidently make a decision now. Thank you!

  • @richardhale2117
    @richardhale2117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Harry, this complete series of reviews has been terrific. I now know more about this car than many owners!

  • @paultaylor9652
    @paultaylor9652 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely Jubbly, always a pleasure to watch Harry's videos

  • @samcarter5576
    @samcarter5576 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know this video is a year old now but I really want one of these. Love your detailed review in both videos. Thankyou

  • @33196092
    @33196092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Brilliant video. Thank you. I was thinking to buy one and now, the decision is made. I will buy it.

  • @benhill2454
    @benhill2454 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The key looks like a solution looking for a problem. Great review.

  • @jeffreywong6842
    @jeffreywong6842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome! My 45e is scheduled for production mid-April, can't wait!

  • @peterball8241
    @peterball8241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Owner of a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV for 4 years and very similar experience. Love driving in electric mode and no range anxiety for long trips. It's the journeys that are just too long to do on electric that are annoying. Either maximise electric capacity or use more petrol to warm the ICE system properly (first world problem). I try to avoid overtaking until the engine has been running a while but spirited pulling out of junctions can cause the engine to fire up when not really required. Overall very happy and will keep it until long range EVs are affordable.

  • @flippy9133
    @flippy9133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I think PHEVs are the perfect daily, you can use it to go to shops and short trips on EV mode and still go on a cross country trip without fearing your battery runs out

  • @bigprocrastinator
    @bigprocrastinator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Harry's praises and quibbles hold value. The best car reviewer on YT

  • @Tk-vn3yw
    @Tk-vn3yw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you, you gave all the right information regarding a long term review

  • @richardcelestre6299
    @richardcelestre6299 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great series of videos on this car. I'm getting ready to order one and your review really sealed the deal for me on ordering the hybrid rather than the pure petrol version. The $9k in rebates and tax credits in California for the hybrid helped with the decision also.

  • @jasonlongley3537
    @jasonlongley3537 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thanks Harry. You’ve convinced me. Mine arrives in May.

    • @Onehotdogplease1
      @Onehotdogplease1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was supposed to get mine in January - but it's delayed until April...

  • @TheophilusPWildbeest
    @TheophilusPWildbeest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    In the last 18 months I've done 9707 miles in my 330e and used 73.9 gallons, that's 131 mpg. I reckon at least 75% of my miles are electric. It's refined and fast and I'm very happy with it.

    • @matthewlewis2072
      @matthewlewis2072 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could you have hone fully electric?

    • @TheophilusPWildbeest
      @TheophilusPWildbeest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@matthewlewis2072 With hindsight yes, but I was expecting to do more distance journeys this past year, and they didn't happen.

    • @paulmcgee1867
      @paulmcgee1867 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I was sure that was a better choice

    • @Gdank72
      @Gdank72 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So if 75% was electric ... why not make it 100% for the next car? It's not a massive jump if you are already doing 6000 miles a year on electric only.

    • @TheophilusPWildbeest
      @TheophilusPWildbeest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Gdank72 I probably will. Before the 330e I had two Leafs, but they were limited on range and rhe charging system wasn't good enough so I went for a phev. Both issues have now moved forward so I'll go back to leccy.

  • @arthuracorn
    @arthuracorn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That’s the first look at something hybrid and real world useable .
    Very informative Harry.

  • @dasautogt
    @dasautogt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Harry, great insight into the vehicle /PHEV.👍

  • @KSL12
    @KSL12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Always a great review.

  • @jan-hendrikbussmann4644
    @jan-hendrikbussmann4644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I would like to comment on the "lack of power capacity" in German homes. That is simply untrue. There are regulations in place in Germany that demand a symmetric three-phase power draw when exceeding 4.6 kilowatts. Private charging points must not charge more than 20 amps single-phase, which is 4.6 kW at 230 volts. Cars like the Range Rover are therefore not able to fully utilize their 7.2 kilowatt single-phase onboard chargers on those charging stations at home. If you want to have more than 4.6 kilowatts, the car has to be equipped with a three-phase charger. Then you can do 11 or even 22 kilowatts at home, but the latter does have to be approved by the power company first. Standard household supply in Germany is 44 kilowatts (three-phase at 63 amps). 7.2 kilowatt single-phase chargers are just very attractive from a cost point of view for the car manufacturer because you can sell this onboard charger worldwide and it will fit most market needs, like in the US (where there is no three-phase for EV charging) or China (where single-phase 32 amps is standard although they do have three-phase power). Many of today's EVs started with 7.2 kW, but have now been upgraded to 11 kW three-phase (like the Jaguar I-Pace or the Hyundai Kona) to comply to European charging standards. So BMW just has to upgrade that damn old charger in the X5, which they have used for several years in the former PHEV models as well. That's just old stuff. Put an 11 kilowatt charger in it, and you will be able to relatively fast-charge that car in Germany and the rest of Europe.

    • @radoslavdimitrov1101
      @radoslavdimitrov1101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Very informative! Thanks.
      Do you know if this can be retrofitted? Now or in future or it is what it is and we have to be put up with it? It’s a shame as this slow rate makes it unusable at a public charge points.

    • @jan-hendrikbussmann4644
      @jan-hendrikbussmann4644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@radoslavdimitrov1101 in theory, yes. Like it would also be possible to retrofit a newer generation of battery system. But it is unlikely in my opinion. You would also need to switch the charge port and high voltage cables to the charger which would be thicker and possibly would not fit in the original position in the car body. Also, financial aspects. Example: if you bought a first-gen BMW i3 with the 21.6 kWh battery, two years later you could pay a significant amount of money to upgrade to the then-new 33.2 kWh battery system and so increase the range of your existing car. But the total cost was close to selling your old car and buying the newer version while still missing out on the other improvements introduced with the newer battery, like three-phase charging 😉. So not that attractive.

    • @paredding
      @paredding 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jan-hendrikbussmann4644 Very interesting. So knowing that German HH already had 44kW 3-ph charge, they missed a big opportunity there. Wonder when the upgrade will come since as you say the mods are quite extensive. I also wonder what the cost of the 3-phase charger install is in both UK and German as this needs to be factored in to the capital cost.

    • @jan-hendrikbussmann4644
      @jan-hendrikbussmann4644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@paredding Three-phase wallboxes are not that much more than single-phase ones. In the end, it is a glorified power outlet with over-current and fault current protection. It gets more expensive if it has smart features like an internal power metering unit, WiFi and so on. On the onboard charger side, a three-phase design is much more complex because many components are simply needed per phase, so three times instead of one. In general, the complexity of the internal design of the charger increases a lot for three-phase. This also makes for a huge packaging problem: the chargers get a lot bigger, so they may not fit in the position of the old one. It is actually mostly a problem for PHEVs. They have to fit a combustion engine with all the stuff around it and also the electric part of the drivetrain. The onboard charger in a PHEV is like the least favorite child of the manufacturer: it often gets the Harry Potter room of the house, stuffed in some dark place. On a fully electric car, most of the time it is not that difficult to find a suitable spot for the charger. Which also means the charger does not have to be fully optimized for being small first, powerful later.
      EDIT: crap, wrote another novel.

    • @paredding
      @paredding 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jan-hendrikbussmann4644 Not at all - the more we know, the better (more informed) decision can be taken. Devil in the detail and all that. The next step (for me) would be to see the vehicle capital cost diff between ICE and PHEV plus install costs and the ROI 'cos 50mpg v 45mpg isnt going to cut it ;-)

  • @andrewivory-corr4714
    @andrewivory-corr4714 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another straight talking, no nonsense review. Really enjoy the channel, keep them coming 👍

  • @samsonchan1488
    @samsonchan1488 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review! Covered topics no other reviewers covered. Keep up the good work!

  • @johnohare992
    @johnohare992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +451

    Wife just asked if I wanted to spice our life up a little by introducing some electric toys. I told her that Harry says PHEV is the way to go rather than EV. She gave me a dirty look and stormed off. I don't understand women sometimes.

    • @simonyapp
      @simonyapp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Don't do it, I've owned an EV for 4 years now, will never buy a Fossil car again. Keep them for the race track. (also the resale of a PHEV in 4 years will tank!)

    • @AccountantsRCool
      @AccountantsRCool 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      @@simonyapp I think you may have missed the joke.

    • @ipadhome5549
      @ipadhome5549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Whoosh!

    • @jonathansmythe6273
      @jonathansmythe6273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      400v that'l spice things up. vision of thick orange cables, snaking under duvet.

    • @cyborg7116
      @cyborg7116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      and I wouldn't worry about the resale value - I don't think there's much of a market for 2nd hand electric toys....

  • @colinpoyzer7479
    @colinpoyzer7479 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Excellent review. Looking at one of these to replace my 330e. In your review (sound the 13min mark), you mention about the engine kicking in and being cold whilst mid drive. I am like you and very mechanically minded so was worried about this with my 330e. What you will notice is that the battery level will still drop for a couple of miles after switching as it assists the engine to help protect it. Once it is sufficiently warmed, the engine will then help regen some power into the batteries. I think this is also the reason why you can’t deplete the battery (on full EV) below 8%.

  • @MattP168
    @MattP168 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review as always
    Looking forward to mine arriving Wednesday 👍

  • @andrewfoster1535
    @andrewfoster1535 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been waiting for this review for 6 months since I ordered mine (same as the one reviewed from what i can see) and it's been a long wait for your review, and also for my delivery which is in 11 days now!! Thanks for all you do, I even jumped on YT yesterday evening to see what you'd put out and was really surprised there was nothing there until i realise it was only Saturday!!! Great channel, keep up the great work.

    • @MinhNguyen-tz8ti
      @MinhNguyen-tz8ti ปีที่แล้ว

      How is your car right now? Do you like it? I already ordered one , still waiting for delivery ( September/22)

    • @andrewfoster1535
      @andrewfoster1535 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MinhNguyen-tz8ti it’s the best car I’ve had and I’ve had a lot of cars because I’m old now 🤪 you’ll love it I’m sure. Had an issue with the AC which meant it was in the garage for 3 weeks having a full new system fitted but it’s ok now and no other issues. Enjoy.

    • @MinhNguyen-tz8ti
      @MinhNguyen-tz8ti ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewfoster1535 thank you

  • @phillippearl647
    @phillippearl647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I love your reviews. They feel so honest and real.

  • @Udesha
    @Udesha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Top review Harry. I bought one based on your initial review.

  • @sj257257
    @sj257257 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been very helpful seeing your thought. It looks like it makes a lot of sense over my current RR Sport. But mine does go off road around farms (shooting pest control) and this what holds me back. Great review.

  • @cwmitch2
    @cwmitch2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As ever a very informative and enjoyable watch. Cheers Colin.

  • @MichaelGorman1
    @MichaelGorman1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent review and very consistent with my experience. I have 1100 miles on mine, and have driven 66% in pure electric mode. It is hard to describe until you drive it, but in electric mode the vehicle is refined and serene....it just makes you want to drive it more. That said, when the ICE kicks in, the sound is surprisingly good. This sounds like a BMW when you stomp on it, and that was an unexpected plus. Charging rate is a definite issue, and BMW will have to address that going forward, but if you are charging at home overnight, this doesn't impact your life. Terrific work on the reviews, all the best.

    • @harrysgarage
      @harrysgarage  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good to know, the refinement on pure electric is uncanny and I should have made more of it in this video. There's a calmness that comes with town driving in this X5 PHEV that's one of this car's best features. Enjoy!

  • @radoslavdimitrov1101
    @radoslavdimitrov1101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks Harry, great video, very informative! I’ve ordered mine after I’ve seen your first video with this very vehicle and I’m getting it on the 8th March.
    The overly possible review from someone like you, means a great deal to me! I am now even more confident that I’ve made the right choice.
    Just wasn’t sure about the colour my wife has chosen (Dravit Grey) but it’s only fair I’ve chosen the car and she the colour in and out.
    Brilliant job as always Harry! Thank you 🙏

    • @brianbgood
      @brianbgood 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m about to drive 1/2 way across the country for one! Kind Stranger! Hopefully you see this in time. Would you please let me know if you’ve had any issues or regrets with your 45e hybrid?

    • @radoslavdimitrov1101
      @radoslavdimitrov1101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brianbgood Hello Brian 👋🏼
      Well I’ve had my X5 45e for about a year now and confidently can say, it is the right SUV for my family!
      Saying the above doesn’t mean that the X5 45e is perfect, it is not! I haven’t had any mechanical or software issues(I’ve had pretty much every option added on) but BMW had enough time to get the build quality and tech on very very high level! I’ve owned a dozen high end cars and BMW is probably the best in quality of materials and build. I’ll give them 9/10
      The problem is not with the vehicle itself but with the whole segment of plug in hybrids and that is the WEIGHT these vehicles are much much heavier than the same with combustion engines, for example my X5 e45 weights 2450kg and the diesel powered X5 is 2100kg or thereabouts.
      The way it feels and behaves is so different, there’s enough power to move the SUV but it’s heavy and you can feel it especially if you are a bit more enthusiastic on a twisty B road! Even the adaptive air suspension doesn’t hide this, it leans a lot more then the Diesel or Petrol X5.
      The other potential issue is the EV range the claimed 55miles is anything but true, unless you are prepared to drive with no AC or ventilation of any sort and pretty much everything switched off with a speed of 30mph
      In a good sunny summer day.
      Realistically you are looking at 40-44 miles summer time and 30-33 EV miles at cold wintery day.
      Now this will work for some and certainly does for me as I use it for very short journeys, school run, shopping and a short commute! If you are looking to travel further than 40-50 miles a day probably you’d have to think twice before you get this Plug in SUV! Once the battery is depleted you are in for a surprise, you basically have one very very heavy and uneconomical SUV 25 mpg average.
      The last downside is the efficiency of the EV power train you are looking at 1.8 to 2.1 miles per kW which is not great in the EV realms.
      All of the above is inherent issue with all Plug In hybrids it is a compromise basically in order to have the Combustion engine for a longer journeys.
      Bottom line a fantastic BMW with a astonishingly high quality interior and build quality.
      Hope the above helps.
      Good luck 👍

  • @SerDionysus
    @SerDionysus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pick mine up Wednesday, can't wait!

  • @burrogrande
    @burrogrande 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had one for a overnight test drive.
    An epic piece kit. I'd might even call this a class leader in these big suv plug-ins.
    I love the look of this and the interior. But indeed it feels enormous.
    Super easy to forget your keys with this car. Opens and closes locks and boot automatically.

  • @davidgrover2665
    @davidgrover2665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another great review Harry - must watch for anyone looking at this car as an option. The ~50 mile EV range always interested me but what I never realised is the so slow charging - weird! So the bug question is what is Harry gonna buy? New Hybrid Defender or keep the trusty Range Rover?

  • @DctorSkillz1
    @DctorSkillz1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I wish Harry could review more mainstream cars. His honesty and experience is supremely informative. Keep it up!

    • @siraff4461
      @siraff4461 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree but he's a bit limited as there is only him doing it. I imagine trying to do quality reviews like this takes up a fair bit of his time already and if he started doing mainstream stuff he would have to do most of them to make it fair.
      It would be great if we could somehow multiply him and get 10 vids per day but I fear cloning is a way off for that just yet.

    • @ssj9871
      @ssj9871 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't

  • @mikemittel2691
    @mikemittel2691 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic review. Thank you Harry...... Merry Christmas!🎄

  • @jonshepard85
    @jonshepard85 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Harry, I love your reviews. Spot on. The Taycan review, for example, and your advice to wait a few years, if I recall, re range. This M545 review caught my attention, I knew not of this car. Now I do. Given supply issues, it's hard to come by or even test drive, but I am exploring. Grateful.

  • @EnarcMail
    @EnarcMail 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The X5 45e is a superb car. I’ve had mine since June 2020. 9,000 miles covered with 6,800 on pure electric. Indicated 87 MPG ave over that period. Most journeys are sub 40 miles. Yes the charging is very slow but if you are considering one of these I would highly recommend!!

    • @cagdasonar4610
      @cagdasonar4610 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How to use the Modes the best? I Whoud say town Full elektric on normal road where i Drive 100kmh Sport?

  • @IanRMcAllister
    @IanRMcAllister 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This has been a great video review series, Harry. So good in fact, I have a few friends who have bought them as a result of your review - just a pity you won't be buying one (did you negotiate a £20k retainer plus sell on commission - LOL!). Would you reconsider if they brought out a farmers-edition (no side skirt, plus it stay's up when you push the ride height button), over what appears to be the farming-superior new Defender? Good Luck!

  • @RobS32
    @RobS32 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another honest cracking vid. Thanks H. 👍

  • @asdfjklasdfjkl1988
    @asdfjklasdfjkl1988 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Incredible in depth review. Helped me decide here in the usa. Thanks

  • @joetacchino4470
    @joetacchino4470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Also, you’re not driving the farmer’s spec. Get it without the M Sport pack and you’ll lose those side sills. Here in the US, 19’s are standard. Stick with those or 20’s with a little more aggressive tires and you’re all set.

    • @alexwells4364
      @alexwells4364 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Joe, In the UK we only get M Sport X5's, SE not an option and smallest wheel size on 45e offered is 20".

    • @deviantrider9309
      @deviantrider9309 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@alexwells4364 Sorry but your wrong in the uk you can get the x line model which comes without those side sills & gets 19 inch wheels

  • @colinbarber1957
    @colinbarber1957 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video Harry.
    I’m on my second Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV, it would benefit from a bigger battery 16 miles realistically going up and down Pennines hills.
    Having said that, I sometimes (in spring /summer/autumn go 3 months without filling up (costs about £43:00 to fill)
    Using all the heated gizmos in winter screen/wheel/seats/rear screen/electric pre heater hammers the battery as you would expect.
    Having said that, 5 hours to charge on a 3 pin plug at home, or on the rare time I charge it at a fast charger, it’s got a fast charge socket.
    It’s a great car for working locally, but as a repmobile, buy diesel.
    I’m with you Harry, PHEV for the foreseeable.
    P.S. if everything is going to be electric cars, where is the generating power going to come from?

  • @ionperpegel4963
    @ionperpegel4963 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought one of these due to your reviews and I am happy. Thanks.

  • @arezourose1
    @arezourose1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We have just had ours delivered to our house.
    We absolutely love it

  • @davey_projects2977
    @davey_projects2977 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video as usual. The old saying, unsure if true was that "90% of engine wear occurs during startup". This might start to apply more than ever.

    • @ColinMill1
      @ColinMill1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Large stationary engines often have electric oil pressure boost pumps that ensure there is oil pressure before the engine is cranked. Not sure if they do this in PHEVs but it would not be a very expensive thing to do.

  • @louiskingable
    @louiskingable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great content as usual Harry! Would be interested in the comparison between this and the 545e. If the lower drag coefficient and slightly less weight makes any difference to the mpg, but I do have a suspicion that it isn’t exactly the same system due to the space available between platforms.

  • @vladserbanescu5394
    @vladserbanescu5394 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very very useful video! Really enjoyed watching it and gathering all this info. Thank you, Harry! :)

  • @isaid5098
    @isaid5098 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review and as always a class performance. To the point and we’ll delivered 👍👍👍

  • @TraditionArt
    @TraditionArt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Best wishes from Germany to you ❤️🚗🚜❤️

  • @ivannarvaez367
    @ivannarvaez367 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I have a previous gen X5 40e and I love everything except the 4cyl, it sounds terrible and performance drops dramatically when the battery is depleted. I was actually very happy to see BMW going with the 6 cylinder on the new generation.

    • @sharisees
      @sharisees 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you recommend buying a used 2018 x5 40e with the 4 cylinder engine, or find one with the 6 cylinder?

    • @ivannarvaez367
      @ivannarvaez367 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sharisees I love mine and it has been reliable. Drive both and see which one you like best. I think I would get the 6 cyl if money was no object just because it sounds so much better.

    • @patdonnellan1024
      @patdonnellan1024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even with depleted battery no lack of power in my 40e....seriously powerful 4 cyl.... after 3 30ds.....little difference.... very economical in comparison to oil burner

  • @markburton3306
    @markburton3306 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We’ve had an Audi A3 etron for nearly 6 years and I’m always impressed by the petrol motor when in starts up. Always a smooth transition.

  • @daraghmorrissey
    @daraghmorrissey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video and I've always liked the X5. Last one I drove had Apple Airplay - which worked great as a touch screen if you dont like iDrive. Good to know about the door sill. Most of these will be Chelsea tractors - but the doors get dirty even if you don't use it on a farm.

  • @MrMarkusmonkey
    @MrMarkusmonkey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Harry you are so passionate about 4 and 2 wheels, a true petrol head! My 1977 cb400f is my addiction in life ❤

    • @elitesniper923
      @elitesniper923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Aye as a 1977 cb550f owner please take take of her. These old Hondas are getting rarer by the day.

  • @Starfighter2000.
    @Starfighter2000. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love my X5 45e. I typically get around 51 electric miles on one charge (ignore the predicted electric range on the driver's screen its alway wrong!). Mix of long distance commuting and local journeys has returned 55mpg combined. It's incredibly quiet inside, iDrive is fab, as Harry says virtually zero body roll and is a delight to drive; infact we think its even nippier than the 330e we have. A super-comfortable family car.Thanks Harry, another great review.

    • @brianbgood
      @brianbgood 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m about to drive across the country to get one. Any issues with yours yet?

  • @NS-pt9rr
    @NS-pt9rr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent view, Harry

  • @chrishayes4785
    @chrishayes4785 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great to see a real world review from 9K miles of use. Way too many one day or a few days experience in their reviews. Well done Harry.

  • @stranobikes
    @stranobikes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    The cold engine issue is one I had anxiety about when I had an i8. Most of my driving could be done in electric only but when I wanted to drive in a spirited manner I always held back because of my mechanical sympathy for the cold engine.

    • @harrysgarage
      @harrysgarage  3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Not just me then!

    • @andrewhurstcars
      @andrewhurstcars 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I suppose the only way around that would be to run the car gently in sport mode to get the engine warm, then revert back to normal/eco mode.

    • @lastlondon
      @lastlondon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I’ve had a cayenne hybrid which also had a lot of stone cold starts because of the hybrid system; after 120k KMs the engine needed twice a full soot cleaning because the secondary air flows got clogged up from all the cold starts. Car is sold and I’m never buying hybrid again

    • @Ponykotze
      @Ponykotze 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed. Had the same thoughts on my i8 too. Freezing cold turbo engine revving to 7000 rpm from spot on when overtaking.

    • @vyrnmn
      @vyrnmn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I recall seeing an F30 330e reversing out of a parking space a while ago. It couldn't have been very old really, but when the petrol engine cut in it sounded like it was on its last legs

  • @johnmeyer457
    @johnmeyer457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Can’t help but think that current high end hybrid cars are just a way for rich people to circumvent pollution regulations in cities and the like. Terribly complicated cars with plenty to go wrong, mainly thought to be owned under leasing for 3 years and after that if something goes wrong might well end up with a totalled car. Fuel consumption numbers only add up when driven very gently or in ideal conditions and seen with rose tinted glasses.

    • @BeingMe23
      @BeingMe23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hybrids were intented for mpg only. As far as people go. The rich don't want to spend money on gas either.
      BTW Porsche had build the World's first Hybrid in 1898.

    • @aston-martin-internationalist
      @aston-martin-internationalist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've just ordered a new C300de - I went for it partly because of the insane amount of torque which is slightly more than the C63S, the other part of it was due to mpg. It should be significantly more lively car than the straight ICE versions (excluding the C63).

    • @peterinfamilyguy
      @peterinfamilyguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Completely agree... I have an XC60 Recharge as a company car and it is so expensive to maintain. It's great if you plug it in constantly in between short trips, but then if you add every bill up it becomes more expensive than an EV or ICE. One system (Electric or combustion) goes down and you're left with a useless car. This is not for the common family, rather it's to flex engineering abilities.

    • @marcob1729
      @marcob1729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hardly consider the RAV 4 as a rich person's car or one that's expensive to maintain

    • @sergueikoaloff4919
      @sergueikoaloff4919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very good comment and I wish people would realise that using a 2.2 T SUV is NOT a sustainable advancement as touted by Manufacturers.
      Plus if you look at the life cycle analysis it’s actually costing more to the environment than traditional ICE cars. It’s also so expensive.

  • @hongkongfuey6882
    @hongkongfuey6882 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant video!
    I currently have a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. I _absolutely_ love it. I get about 23 miles EV range in winter and about 30 in summer. The BMW is definitely my next car.
    Whilst an average of 25 miles EV range is fine (my commute is only 14 miles per day) I could do with a tad more for weekends.

  • @steffydog
    @steffydog 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always a fantastic watch, thanks.

  • @shoeyh5169
    @shoeyh5169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    Harry, they dropped the 'smart key' recently, only comes with 2 conventional keys now

    • @atom999
      @atom999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Does it not come with the conventional keys anyway and the pointless key is a paid option? Was for my x3

    • @jost4786
      @jost4786 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The smart key can drive the car out of tight spaces, if you have that option! Charges at the wireless charging pad. Is still delivered in Norway.

    • @duncanidaho7494
      @duncanidaho7494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The smart key was rubbish indeed. Glad they got rid of it

    • @badgastein2
      @badgastein2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good - some useless things with my 7 series - that clunky key, the LCD rear passenger remote pad which basically mimics a standard Samsung smartphone , tinted rear side windows when blinds are specified and gesture control.

    • @Horizon301.
      @Horizon301. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s cool to have but ours got locked away and never used. It’s pointless when you can’t attach keys to it and if you drop it what if it breaks. The two other keys were great quality anyway so they are easy to use. Also, if you have keyless entry, it defeats the point having a fancy key as it stays in your pocket or handbag anyway.

  • @tiguanman1170
    @tiguanman1170 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I know one owner of a 4-series BMW hybrid who got it because the company accountant stated it was good for tax reasons. Drives everywhere in Sport mode with engine running. Doesn't care about mpg, the environment or "virtue signalling". Harry has been meticulous in gathering the data for us enthusiastic viewers but, lets be honest, does anyone who can afford a £70k car reallyu care about mpg? Cold start from zero to 3000 rpm at -10degC is going to trash an engine but BMW trust it will be OK throughout the warranty period. German charging infrastructure is an important point. If EV's really increased on UK roads, we couldn't charge them all either. A really excellent, thoughtful, independent video. Still, my diesel Mondeo estate would do the Brands Hatch trip at 47mpg and hardly depreciates so I'm not envious though I wouldn't mind a free BMW for six months.

  • @jamesavickers5961
    @jamesavickers5961 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent information and interesting thank you so much harry

  • @thomascole9308
    @thomascole9308 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another superb video. Thanks Harry.

  • @havfunonline
    @havfunonline 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So nice to see a review with a long term range and efficiency figures for a PHEV. As I suspected, this is the only PHEV worth having

  • @kevinbarry71
    @kevinbarry71 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    "I'm sure BMW have tested it". That is the biggest demonstration of The triumph of hope over experience I've ever heard. You know they didn't and they don't and they don't care.

    • @jsleeio
      @jsleeio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      indeed. having owned multiple BMW bikes I can only agree

    • @z00h
      @z00h 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The only thing BMW have definitely tested is how much BMW finance have to charge to make a profit before this thing becomes a liability and ends up in a landfill or some poor fucker's hands. All other things are maybe yes maybe not. Vorsprung durch financial engineering.

  • @ben.aka.bigben
    @ben.aka.bigben ปีที่แล้ว

    Very detailed and well managed review. Thank you sir!

  • @edwinjones7307
    @edwinjones7307 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed the video and the presentation.Thank you.

  • @markoneill2819
    @markoneill2819 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the fact that you spent your own money on a boot protector for a loan car. Classy.

    • @mansaslund
      @mansaslund 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's 10 pounds dude...

  • @madduck09
    @madduck09 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video Harry! Considering a 320d vs 330e (Touring) this year. Do you think despite not having any bik claim available, would the residuals and similar tech and potential low running costs to the X5, make the 330e a good pick even with the premium?

  • @federicomaisch6812
    @federicomaisch6812 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative, thank you for sharing

  • @richardburke952
    @richardburke952 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a Fantastic review... So glad I found this channel and I enjoyed your commentary.. Much better than other car review presenters Brilliant I subscribed and Liked :)

  • @tonymcgurk5411
    @tonymcgurk5411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    2 years into my Range Rover Sport P400 PHEV has all the toys but if it had i-drive would be perfect surprisingly for a RR no problems live down the road from Burford

    • @magnetoone2995
      @magnetoone2995 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jerkin the gurkin 😄

    • @Beija101
      @Beija101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only thing bad with the RR Sport p400 phev is the 4cyl engine. Its really bad for such a big car to have that kind of a small engine.

  • @tonydonnelly2762
    @tonydonnelly2762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've spent the last 5 weeks researching the 45e and the iX. This series of videos have convinced me that the 45e is the way for my particular usage requirements. Having made a sustainability commitment, my X5 M50d will go in January 2021 and be replaced by the 45e

    • @dragosxtc1901
      @dragosxtc1901 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why replace the m50d? What was wrong with it?

  • @graememcburnie9601
    @graememcburnie9601 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video Harry👌. I currently have an X3 40d g01 and have been looking forward to the updates on the 45e. Honestly think this will be our next car.

  • @parish2091
    @parish2091 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I very nearly bought this car a year ago when the PCP on my X5 3.0 diesel was up. I dodged it for 2 reasons, both around charging - exactly as Harry mentions re the tortoise performance on charging up and, as applies to every EV or PHEV, the still woeful lack of infrastructure in the UK. Great review Harry as usual.

  • @leenevin8451
    @leenevin8451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    2:06 normal tyres improve every aspect of the cars - you should do a video on it

    • @henrik1743
      @henrik1743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My 2017 F30 335D was more noisy than my new daily 2019 Mazda 3 because of the run flats. Oh, and no steering feedback compared to the E36/e46 era and you have a horrible combination. No grip whatsoever as well when pushing it compared to a good normal road tyre.

  • @harry-eto
    @harry-eto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    13:22 BMW certainly have tested the cold motor to maximum load, since they want to fulfill their legacy of repairing broken engines.

  • @ukcarver
    @ukcarver 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful review of what seems to be a great car.

  • @MaxNeal-tl9bd
    @MaxNeal-tl9bd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, Harry.

  • @mar91169
    @mar91169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Given thumbs up already, Harry is the best on cars on You Tube!

    • @filipborin555
      @filipborin555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The replacement of the old Top Gear from the early to.late 00s.

  • @meestermeesterhastings.3159
    @meestermeesterhastings.3159 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    News on the Alpaca please Harry how was winter for them...? how they cope with Lock down...? any young ones this year, how about a monthly Alpaca update...

    • @marcob1729
      @marcob1729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Give the people what they want, Harry

    • @UpTheAnte1987
      @UpTheAnte1987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Harry doesn't even know what an Alpaca is when he's got his car hat on 😉

    • @meestermeesterhastings.3159
      @meestermeesterhastings.3159 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marcob1729 Ignore the people and Clarkson will flood his farm with Alpaca mark my word.

  • @tomharding149
    @tomharding149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Video as usual! You should definitely do a review of the competitor from Merc (The GLE 350 de).

  • @retailtim
    @retailtim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best car I have ever owned, great video Harry, agree with all you have said including the "cheap buttons" to change the drive mode. Love the V6 so much better than the 4 cylinder

    • @miata1370
      @miata1370 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually....it has an I-6 ;-)

  • @jameswilliamson4508
    @jameswilliamson4508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This is just the perfect mix for this stage in our evolution of charging infrastructure. Once there are chargers everywhere we can go fully electric, but for now a PHEV with a proper battery that can handle 50 mile trips and charge easily overnight is perfect.

  • @stephenmorrish
    @stephenmorrish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    My eleven-year-old Nissan Note averages 54mpg, granted it's not as fast and maybe a little less refined ;) but then it cost eight hundred quid so there's that.

    • @radoslavdimitrov1101
      @radoslavdimitrov1101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That’s like comparing, a horse cart and a bullet train 😄 both will get you from A to B though 👍

    • @vibingwithvinyl
      @vibingwithvinyl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And my 17yo Nissan Maxima 3.0 automatic averages 33mpg, which I think is fairly good for such a large car.

    • @carmadme
      @carmadme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      A reliant robin will do 70+mpg
      Just need to sacrifice all and any refinement to do so

    • @__PHIL__
      @__PHIL__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@carmadme Lovely jubbly.

    • @siraff4461
      @siraff4461 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Fair play you have some guts for admitting you own a Note.

  • @mz2288
    @mz2288 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Harry, best car I ever bought. Totally agree with your review. Don’t forget although slow to charge, whilst engine is running and whenever you brake there is battery charging going on - albeit slow. BMW NAV & Infotainment paired with I-drive is simply in a class of its own. Pure refinement and a perfect long distance car for the family. Also experienced remote BMW support which was excellent in helping problem solve so I could continue my journey without having to go to a dealer. Highly highly addictive.

  • @justinjames9299
    @justinjames9299 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    been waiting for this, great review PHEV is the way at the moment

  • @pride355
    @pride355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m curious to watch Mercedes GLE350 or GLE350d phev review.

  • @andrewstokoe1850
    @andrewstokoe1850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I just don't get it. If it's no good off road then surely a refined estate/large hatch would crush it for mpg. While matching practicality and usability. From an eco pov large hatch/estate would also require fewer materials to build. An even better eco choice is buying a car already made over buying new.
    I'm not conformable the governments are encouraging the car builders down the right route. But we've seen that before... Diesels.

    • @chappy2121
      @chappy2121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      They should have pushed LPG, it is very low emissions wise. I don't get how any of these heavy, aerodynamically bad, suvs that have been made even heavier by the hybrid side of things can even qualify as "green". It's insane.

    • @kensladen
      @kensladen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      You seriously think people buy SUV 4x4’s to off-road??. They buy them for the space and ride height. An estate/hatch can’t match a large SUV for those

    • @ShaiyanHossain
      @ShaiyanHossain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@kensladen an e class wagon has more space than an x5 inside and drives better
      ride height doesn't mean much when you have shitty sidewalls on tires too

    • @ms-jl6dl
      @ms-jl6dl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How old are you? 15-teen?

    • @alhemmings8554
      @alhemmings8554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the 5 or 7 series makes much more sense. I'll take a 745e thanks in long wheelbase on a long term test.

  • @mattiparviainen607
    @mattiparviainen607 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video. Thanks !

  • @MrFede1997
    @MrFede1997 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always great great video!