How AMD went from nearly Bankrupt to Booming - The (Ryzen) of AMD
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- AMD is the preferred choice for many today, but in the past decade, AMD has been through a lot. With the Bulldozer-based FX chips sending AMD deeper into debt after poor performance and a lawsuit, it was all riding on Ryzen to become the Intel Dominator. Many people were hopeful, but some were doubtful of Ryzen vs FX chips. From nearly going bankrupt to booming in business, this is the rise of AMD.
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Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
0:19 - A New Beginning
1:52 - A Fall From Grace
3:03 - Understanding CPU Cores
6:14 - A Dark Future
7:27 - A New Hope
12:40 - The Grand Return
13:15 - Conclusion - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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c'mon algorithm, this guy deserves views
Agreed
Come on bring on the views
Yeah agree.
I came here through recommendations
just premiere videos without actually uploading everytime what? iunno
7:24 How ironic that in 2020 AMD released Ryzen 5000 series CPUs which absolutely destroyed Intel's Core 10th gen CPUs.
Just sad amd did not release budget cpu for 5000 series.
Year later it looks like they are going to bankrup again cos they are become greedy bastards with no such a good and super expensive proiducts.
They only hope is to bring RX 7000 series GPU price to the earth, if they think they can sell thier GPU's for a same money like Nvidia they are finished.
RX 7600 $280-$330
RX 7600 XT $330-$350
RX 7700 $350-$400
RX 7700 XT $400-$450
RX 7800 $450-$500
RX 7800 XT $500-$600
RX 7900 XT $600-$700
RX 7950 XT $800-$1000
These are the real AMD card prices that people are willing to pay.
They are not Nvidia.
When they fix the drivers or drivers without big problems on day 1, when they have the strongest card, when they have the same level of Ray Tracing, when they have around 50% market share, then they can set the prices to be equal to Nvidia.
Ryzen 5000 series have fought Core gen 10, 11 and 12. Though it's successor, Ryzen 7000 series are a bit expensive and has worse price to performance than 13th Core.
@@kerbodynamicx472 Im a AMD lover but I really agree with you that Ryzen 7000 is a fail.
@@Last_Tutmos 💀 Bro thinks hes Elon Musk and Albert Einstein at the same time
Very well explained I had no knowledge of AMDs journey, I'm thinking of switching to AMD with this year's build
I remember back in 1998, having the worlds fastest CPU from AMD - it was a 40MHz x286.
I hope AMD will do the same with GPU. I can't wait to see jensen say "But this is just glued GPUs !".
Like intel said who wants to know Benchmarkings ,Nvidia gonna say who wants Benchmarkings and we all want AI 😆
The difference between Intel and NVIDIA is that Intel was doing jack shit while they were ahead with seemingly no competition, but NVIDIA does keep innovating. It's going to be harder for them to catch up there. But hey, the 6000 series GPUs are really darn good.
@@BARCH-wp5vl yup very predictable
Both nvidia and AMD are experiencing with chiplet design on GPUs. They know that die size limitations will be reached soon enough as the transistor size cannot be shrunk fast enough.
They just Did bro 🔥
I wonder what would have happened without Ryzen, would Intel still be pumping out 4 core CPUs and 2 core i3s?
Most probably, YES. Monopoly is no good at all for evolution. Competition makes thing evolve!
No. That's a misconception. Yes they would've tried to sit on their ass for as long as possible, but they did have 6 and 8 core SKUs planned and probably would've released them anyway
@@crylune yeah but they will not be affordable should amd fail with ryzen
And the i9 would have been hexacore(with 12 threads)(at least the normal K variants that would be used in similar sockets as a standard i7, i5, i3, Pentium or Celeron, the X variants would still be 10 to 18 cores)
14nm++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
14nm super ultra ++
Then 13 nm
underated man, you deserve more views
Can't wait for this video to hit the algorithm
Just did
Yep
Im the product of that
AMD CPU's are a total beast .. You can play Triple AAA games without games and smooth, that's a remarkable thing and bring budget gamer market alive and passionate again, thanks *AMD* you are the best!
Using R5 5700X + RX6600XT total beast!
Great story and video dissemination man, keep it up!
Lisa Sue DESERVES the credit she gets, but Jim Keller does not get as much as he deserves, unfortunately. He had a BIG PART in Zen.
You forgot one of the most surprising release, Threadripper. I'm pretty sure Threadripper helped in Amd's success there.
Nah threadripper is a HEDT processor, HEDT are trash in everything, expensive, extremely power hungry just cores.
@@xf730 I'm not saying the new ones aren't as useful or competitive with just the regular desktop processors. The original Threadripper though, brought something to desktops that you couldn't get without spending twice as much for, and needing server motherboards to use it.
@@xf730 1st few gens of Threadripper had nearly the same revenue as the DIY market, and while expensive they were really not that bad, nothing like the 8k cpus of today
I literrally cried out loud in 2020 when i saw AMD just won against Intel... I loved Ryzen since 2017 and they finally did it
Do you think Intel will be able to turn things around like AMD did? (if you have to look at it without your love for AMD ofc)
@@maxjames00077 maybe
@maxjames00077 Yes but the problem with Intel is they're a massive corporation that does everything in-house. AMD spun off the semiconductor manufacturing part of their company years ago and it turned into global foundries.
It allows AMD to focus on the architecture while their fab partners focus on actually making that architecture into a CPU. That's what Intel has been struggling with most, they were stuck on 14nm for multiple generations.
Is not the rise. Is the Ryzen of AMD.
Its Like AMD HAS RYZEN BACK UP AGAIN
Me watching this with my new Ryzen 7 4800H laptop, my RX 580 graphics card on my desktop which has a Ryzen 5 3600, and my brother's desktop with a Ryzen 5 2400G with Vega 11.
I am proud to have gone team red
Keep it up bro! Your vide presentation is amazing!
Imagine buying amd back then and selling it now
i must say.. we would be filthy rich
Nicely presented, this need more views!!
Great video, I wonder if Radeon will ever surpass Geforce too...
@@eleven99 and you believe it? I mean, is not impossible I guess but man good luck outperforming a 18k Cuda core GPU.
After the announcement of RTX 40 series, I'd say it's not that hard for Radeon to surpass Geforce in price to performance. The 4090 is powerful, yes, but out of reach for most people. The 80-class cards doubled the cost without doubling the performance, because they still have a large stock of 30 series cards. If Nvidia don't change their ways, then yes, Radeon can dethrone Geforce.
@@Drumaier Lmao XTX says hi
you did great works, Lisa. hat offs
Underated channel. Looking forward to the next one :)
One of the best presentations I have ever seen. Bravo
Great video 👍
very well explained, thank you.
so they got off their butts and re-uped innovation to their product. Respect.
The upcoming new AMD Ryzen 9, Zen 4 chips with 5nm will shake the house down and really put a nail, at least part of it into Intel's coffers. I like to see improvement in the Radeon graphics card. Looking at Intel's ARC is so so good. Can kiss Iris goodbye. Also looking forward to see NVIDIA's up coming RTX 4080? Now that will stir up gaming folks a bit
Bro this video is so well made why does this not have a million views yet
I bought the Ryzen 7 1700X in 2017 and never had any issues. Maybe i was lucky, maybe the problem was already fixed at that time.
Incredible to see AMD's rise, it's almost like apples story of rags to riches.
interesting watch, thanks for the video
Excellent video
Despite the big disappointment that RDNA3 turned out to be. I honestly would like to see AMD do better with Radeon to the point of trading significant blows with Nvidia so that we can have similar competition in the GPU market as we have in the CPU market.
I believe RDNA 3 is a Zen 1 moment from AMD. They tried to do a lot of new and untried things with that architecture, like a chiplet design and AI accelerators. The fact they sorta worked out the latency issue of a non-monolithic die design and made the CU-per-CU performance of RDNA 3 slightly better than RDNA 2 while improving ray tracing substantially is impressive, all things considered. Yes, in raw performance RDNA 3 is a disappointing uplift compared to RDNA 2, but it is a technical win from AMD, as it'll allow them to produce GPUs for cheaper and also scale die size to ridiculous levels reliably, allowing them to eventually close the gap on Nvidia's monolithic design approach.
Great vide!
I have been a lifelong Intel fanboy but if AMD continues this path-im defo switching to them with my future build.
Just went amd for the first time and honestly it's been pretty damn good so far. 7800x3d and a 7900xtx, can't bear the gaming performance except for a 4090 but.. I play at 1440p and don't plan on changing anytime soon.
Finally a video on this
I kinda disagree about the part where this video defines what cores are. It's not really just the sharing of caches but also the front end of the two integer clusters, with fetch and decode having to be shared. Add to this the fact that each integer cluster has only 2 ALUs and 2 AGUs which hurt per-thread performance. This last reason is probably the one biggest reason Bulldozer had such poor per-thread performance. Add to this the long cache latencies without being able to hit super-high clock speeds, plus a lagging manufacturing node stuck at 32nm, and it's a recipe for failure.
So it's not really the cache arrangement that brought this architecture down; it's a collection of poor design choices that ultimately resulted in AMD almost going down.
I’m going All AMD for my upcoming Build
*5800x3D | Radeon RX7900XTX*
also looking forward to build a 4K RT 120FPS gaming PC in future with RYZEN 7950X3D | RX7990XTX (or) 8800XTX 💯
Love how AMD always focused Value & Customer satisfaction
Exactly the same, switching my 5900X for a 5800X3D to squeeze the last bit of gaming performance out of AM4 and to ensure I won't bottleneck the 7900 XTX.
In the meantime when AMD was financially struggling, almost nobody threw in the ropes for buying it out (I atleast think it still has some of the best architects), mostly because buying AMD doesn't give you the x86 license. And competing with a company while paying royalties to them isn't really a good idea.
I am pretty glad AMD didn't go bankrupt else we will still be having the same shitty Intel desktop processors even now, or even worse.. ARM processors.
Lisa Su is an inspiration to me
What song do you use for the transitions?
This was a custom track made by my friend! You can find his youtube linked in the description.
Hmm, I can't seem to find it
You can find him here: th-cam.com/channels/YmibvC6gFWRC7JQvb63qDg.html
Intel spamming the refresh button since Skylake
I got this in my recommendation, Maybe TH-cam heard you guys.
Started with FX8150, I thought I was a badass. Went to 4790k for Hackintosh. Got the FX8350 for my son's PC. Still badass. Got myself a 9900K for Hackintosh upgrade. Handed down the 4790k to son. should have probably went to zen AMD CPU since they can be used for Hackintosh.
Battlefield 2042 128 players is a nightmare to play if Ryzen never existed. Thank AMD.
4c 8t
This is the most intelligent explanation of the real information ever.
I am proud owner of Ryzen 5 3600.. 6 cores and 12 threads is an overkill for my desktop yet I will use it for years to come. Because it only utilizes up to 30% of its potential on most games. So I can't say I need to change it quickly. Similar thing to my GPU but I can't say I don't want to switch it for better one. Best part about AMD is that If I want to switch CPU I don't need to buy new motherboard and cooling unit to do it. I can use same motherboard I used with one in previous generation. Thats the beauty of AMD. It is well made product. Good dollar to performance ratio. As well intergeneration continuity of product line. Now I don't need to spend another hundred or more dollars just to switch CPU and that is beautiful.
cpu load does not matter, if your gpu isnt at 100% you are cpu limited, most games only max out one core and this main thread is limiting other threads.
@@ztechmusic Thats True.. Thats why my GPU is always at 80-100% load in games I play. I just adjust settings to have 30-60 fps and as detailed graphic as possible to make it stable. Older titles easly maxes out in graphic quality. Still.. its a great mid tier computer and has overall great performance. I won't switch it for another few years
@@mariow7818 Ryzen 3600 still great CPU, you can do over 100 FPS in Warzone 2, but if you want more (in Anno 1800 or Warzone 2) its mostly CPU limit
I got the 5900x and it’s a beast.
i have a 3700x and its a beast still when u add rx6800 u have everything at max
First time i used AMD was with the Sempron 64 back in 2005, overclocked that CPU from 1.6ghz to 2.4ghz and man what difference did it made.
Had the Phenom II X4 955 as well but soon changed to the I7 2700K as it was miles ahead and then AMD started to falter down...
In 2019 I went back to AMD with the 3700X and changed it to the 5950X, and I have to say that this CPU is just a gem simple is that, it's good at everything you throw at it!!!
Hopefully, AMD will continue to innovate and make great products as well(RDNA2 except 6600XT).
Give my man some more views TH-cam!!!!
there was a time AMD stood for Another Massive Dissapointment, now it stands for Another Massive Disrespect to team green/blue
what prevented intel from doing better? any way i was a fan of AMD since 2002, Congrats!👏👏👏
Process node development woes. Intel 7 (10nm, comparable to TSMC's 7nm) was in research as early as 2008 according to Intel's announcements. They did probably succeed but they had disastrous yields so they had to keep refining the node which took a lot of time. Alder Lake was meant to be released alongside Zen/Zen+ but was pushed back due to the aforementioned reason. Ryzen possibly couldn't have made any impact if Alder Lake launched in 2018 and AMD might as well have went bankrupt. They had all the stars align at the perfect time, so good for them. The Core i3-8121U, a mobile processor made in extremely limited quantities and sold in select regions released in 2018, used their 10nm process. It didn't hit high clocks and was very unstable outside the stock configuration. It was a proof-of-concept rather than a complete ready-for-anything chip. Then they released Ice Lake, a mobile processors architecture, couple years later which was the first mass-manufactured product line based on their 10nm node. It still had bad clocks but were relatively stable and had good enough yields by then. Then came Tiger Lake which was a massive improvement over Ice Lake, using the same node. And now, they finally released Alder Lake using the Intel 7 node on both desktop and mobile.
This video deserve more views
I am currently running an FX CPU and while the "multiplier" might be unlocked, the stupid software that allows you to do that can make it IMPOSSIBLE to actually be able to do that. Great. Can't use the full potential of my computer, due to terrible software.
yea but i wanted to buy the first gen ryzen and because me an the other "testers" amd succeded,they should not forget that.
quality content
Epic comeback!
actual gamer moment pogu
is it true those responsible for false advertising at AMD back in 2014 are now working at Intel....
Dr. Su is a stone cold gangster!
Intel was so dominating that nobody in the world would have bet on the loser. Lisa Su basically accomplished mission impossible. I would have bought AMD stocks from 11 dollars only if I knew.
Props to Lisa Su
Nice
ATI bros where u at? RIP my 9700 pro
Ryzen won my heart. I switched from Intel to AMD.
AMD has Ryzen from the ashes 😅😜
This was beautiful
Cache = Cash
For the algorithm!!!
Do you think Intel will be able to get out of the same ish situation that AMD was in?
Hey @TH-cam , I think the algorithm would love this video ;)
I legit thought I was watching a video with millions of views the whole time and then I looked at the view count. wtf..
Nonono... this is not the whole story..
1. They use chiplet design so they can launch processor that is faster while costing 1/3 price of Intel fastest processor. This is the very reason they will have monopoly in near future
2. Threadripper 1st gen launch which made everyone by surprise including Intel, they even have to rush 18 cores desktop launch
3. They use TSMC which basically bailed by Apple to get cutting edge nm process while AMD enjoy more affordable price of prev year manufacturing process
4. Lisa Su is a smart engineer AND also tactical CEO. For example they partner with TSMC so NVIDIA now have to use worse Samsung wafer for this gen GPU. They launch FSR, a competitor of NVIDIA proprietary DLSS tech, and use NVIDIA GTX 1060 as a demo because older gen NVIDIA GPU can't use their own DLSS tech thereby removing need of upgrade from NVIDIA user to another NVIDIA GPU
*AMD's former CEO steps down and takes a position at Dell*
*Linus Tech Tips gets a shitty customer experience with Dell in their "Secret Shopper" series. Not to mention repeated pitches for the warranty.*
A pattern, perhaps? 🤔
Not the man's fault but rather the company recycling him. lol
nice
I had an amd e2 vision laptop, it was crap, even celeron processors were better.
It's good that they make better cpus/igpus on low cost laptops now.
Brandon Yen : what near bankrupcy ?!?!?!?! AMD was doing pretty well since it had 100 % of the market share in GPU-s for both consoles (with their AMD FX Jaguar 8 core variant) prior to Ryzen launch. AMD also had a HUGE share in mobile phones with their Andreno graphics chips. AMD also sold quite a lot of CPU-s prior to Ryzen launch in 2017. AMD was never near bankrupcy....but it was staying smaller compared to Shintel. But that's only due to Shintel using anti-competitive tactics for nearly 3 decades always undercutting AMD from deals being made with OEM partners despite the fact that AMD has had historicaly faster CPU-s for less money. The same was in the server market where AMD introduced their Opteron cpu-s back in 2005-2012 (multiple series) that were faster and more efficient in almost every task (just like Epycs are today) but AMD was being bribed out by Shintel from OEM partners to lie that they have all the capacities already filled and they quazi don't need new chips. There are countless lawsuits confirming that. It's a general knowledge :).
If you take a look at their balance sheets you’ll see what I mean.
@@BrandonYen balance sheets can be falsified....Shintel has done that before.
I agree that there are financial metrics that can be fudged but in 2014 AMD had decreasing sales, lower margins, and negative cash flow. They would not have gone bankrupt immediately, but if Zen had not succeeded then AMD might have gone bankrupt by the end of the decade. Regardless of market share they did not bring in enough money to offset the cost.
@@lflyr6287 So you are saying AMD falsified their balance sheets to look worse than it is? Doesn't make much sense to cook the books the wrong way does it
@@maxjames00077 AMD didn't falsify their liquidity books....Shintel bribed third party quazi analytics firms that post inaccurate statistics :).
yes this good for gaming
Intel we are going to add more cores and threads per genration
AMD WE ARE GONNA PUT MORE POWER ON CPU AND GPU
hail to Lisa Su and AMD! 😍🙌
Now we have to just wait around for AMD to hit another slump, then we can do articles with titles like "The Ryzen Fall of AMD".
Yeah good video but don`t show lisa su at fall from grace she wasn`t ceo at that time
to call 1st gen ryzen Terrible is really not what it was, there were some issues, but really nothing major, else it wouldn't have been popular.
Too delay dude
Hopefully people do not get laid for liking the video now.
AMD VS IOS VS INTEL
i skipped to 6:14
Terascale was ATI's work
Typical Asian CEO, Lisa Su takes competition very personal..
Mr Beast donated 100million $
The people who disliked this video are Intel fanboys.
:D
I bought 10900k by mistake now i am crying why i didnt bought 5900x
Man, that's an Excellent CPU you have there. The Benchmarks and Real Life Comparisons show that the 10900K is Better than the 5900X in a Half of the Games.
@@AG-te9xp faster only in games. 5900X kills 10900K in creative apps
@@arjunsanghi Yes but not worth the price difference.
@@AG-te9xp Who said 😂. For a creator, time is money my friend
@@arjunsanghi You don't mind waiting a few seconds, do you? Not so much time difference.
:)
Intel fumbled
What saved AMD was intel's broken 10nm and 7nm process.
i dont care, i stay with intel
Funny that a woman saved amd
Why is that funny
Bro what intel is much better
i like Lisa Su, i dont like AMD products
This video is totally bullshit. It doesn´t have anything valid. Any information which would say something important. It is just preview of marketing adds. From beginning. AMD´s problem with buldozer wasn t lawsuit , but that it was slow and can´t compare to 4core intel chips (even if it has "8" core). It was power hungry and top model need AIO water cooler. Yes, intel was sleeping and not innovating. For that is AMD on top now. But, it is not better company. Remember that AMD survive even thx nVidie who made at that time one of best chipset for AMD´s processors! It is funny like it was allowed to buy ATI (graphic), but nVidia is not allowed to buy ARM. And even right now, both intel and nvidia has competitive product, but not as good process for chips. BUT that process is NOT AMD. It is TSMC!! So, this is not rise of AMD. This is rise of TSMC who has the best products and is most important FAB in the world!
after reading b'lsht I can give you fangirl grade.
a good chip don't necessary come only with a good process node, the architecture is important and the best example is bulldozer, the problem wasn't that much about the process node but from the µarchitecture of the CPU cores.
just take a look at what intel desperately did since Rocket Lake, they just copy-pasted Sunny Cove architecture to 14nm, yielding in absurd power consumption, it's all about process node you said? well it's also funny to look how Intel is struggling with Alder/Raptor Lake reaching 250/350W even on their 10nm MegaSuperUltraFin. Another example? sure. NVIDIA's using Samsung 8nm node for RTX 3000, the result : 450W nuclear reactor. And this could have been because of Samsung sh*tty process node before looking at next generation future power consumption on TSMC best node (RTX 4000 & 4N process) compared to the red brand offering.
@@plkh9602 ??? I know my english is not perfect, but that was what I said. that Intel is keeping step even with worst process. That ofcourse mean a lot of good design from Intel to be on same line with worst process. therefor iI said that it is TSMC who rules here and AMD can thank.
@@marektomas9256 I love you