I hear you on the crabbing thing. You're right about that situation. Having all the options you do is pretty cool. In PA, I use it to mow, snow removal, lawn areovating and overseeding, slip scoop for moving mulch and dirt, and a tough cut for big nasty shit. My Dad uses it for leave collection in fall with the vacuum system. I got a deal on everything used all at one time, so it made a lot of sense. Everyones needs and applications are different. I do have a kubota L3200 as well and even though they are roughly the same HP the uses are completely different. Two different animals that do different things for me.
You should not have to defend you position. You have had both and this works better for you applications- bravo! (I'm a proud Ventrac owner but it doesn't do everything I need it to)
If you only cut grass then Ventrac may not be the best option for most people. I get calls all time to cut grass and I just will NOT try to compete price wise with the zero turn guys
I owned both. Easy to match or beat the tough cut deck with a lower cut. Lower price and out maneuvers the ventrac and that’s why I switched. Plenty of videos of this thing in action and it performs as advertised even on thick brush.
@@raulhogland7309 agreed. I've taken my tax places that I know the previous company couldn't take their ventrac. That said, I do believe that I've seen videos of a Ventrac cutting places I don't think my Altoz could (blue cord)
I see Ventrac like a Shopsmith. They can do many things but can’t do anything the best. Besides both being really high priced initially all attachments and parts are proprietary. A compact tractor and Altoz is a much better economic decision for most. I do think i like the Cubs with steering wheel more than the altoz though if trying to eliminate turf tear on the slopes.
So much faster at mowing it’s a dream! I was cutting 18” wild grass at top speed I’m low gear. I can do 11 mph in top gear when it’s dry grass. Turns on a dime too.
Remote control mowers are more of a novelty. The really powerful ones are out of most people price range at $100k plus. They are slow and you have to be right beside them to monitor performance and any hazards that it may encounter and be ready to shut it down asap. The Green Climber only has a cutting width of 4’. If that is what you do all day is cut impossible slopes, then it will pay for itself the first year. Get one. But if you have say 6 foot mowers that do 95% of your work and you are going 3-5 times as fast as the remote control one it doesn’t even begin to make sense. The slower it goes the longer it takes the more fuel I burn the more time I burn the more I risk damage the more I charge. So it’s a losing proposition for me right now. Until I get a huge Caltrans contract to pay for one or I see one used for $20k, not interested. Thanks for watching
I own the Altoz TSX and, of you're careful, you can cut finished lawns fairly well, even with the swing blades. I wouldn't recommend it for finished lawns but I have used it at a few and it does just fine. It takes longer because you have to make wider Y turns but it won't tear up the lawn of your very careful
Sorry but this Zero Turn With rotary brush blades is NOT the same as the ventrac flail deck. So are you comparing to the flail or the tough cut on your Ventrac? $24k for a zero turn with tracks only to mow grass? This machine doesn't even come close. Maybe a better video with a side by side comparison on the same slope before you sold the Ventrac.
Dollar for dollar I prefer the Altoz. It’s faster for less. You can pick these up all day for about $19k. The tough cut deck sucks because it is very susceptible to breaking bolts from hitting rocks. So is the Altoz. But cheaper and easier to repair in the field. I prefer a flail deck but ventrac is a novice when it comes to engineering a new flail deck for the belt pto. And also plus in addition furthermore it’s TOO HEAVY for the ventrac. But I see your point. I just throw up these videos for fun. Not truly a comparison channel. I buy everything that interests me and try it. The ventrac is nice for rolling hills but slides sideways. The flail mower is great for rocks but to heavy for the ventrac to lift and reverse up the hill.
@@raulhogland7309blade bolt breaking? I’ve worn out 2 blades this summer on my hq680 haven’t broke a blade and yes I’ve hit many rocks. If your blade bolts break before the belt slips the belt is too tight.
There is No Machine can beat Ventrac with its versatility. You probably just don't need it with the nature of your business. But for the business I have, it is very efficient and useful.
I think the most versatile machines by far are bobcats. Not the ventrac. For attachment availability and prices hands down. The ventrac couldn’t scrape anything but very light weeds on the road. Could not push dirt or lift and move like a subcompact tractor or a bobcat. All it really can do well is mow on hills. Look at all the videos. How many are construction? How many are mowing? Bradley is the only guy o know that built an entire business on around it.
I've never had an issue with my Ventrac, sounds like to me he dosen't know how to operate it and that could be very dangerous. I've been in places you won't put a ALTOZ, or any other piece of equipment!! VENTRAC ALL THE WAY!!!
@@medlinlandmaintenancellc do you have the flail mower on yours? I’ve owned 4 Ventracs. Great machine but like I said , just a glorified mower in my opinion. If you have the money, like I do, Thank you Jesus, you buy different tractors to do the different work. I have a bobcat s750 with a/c, a Kubota U17 mini x, Kubota M7060 with a/c with a 8’ flail mower on the back for larger parcels, a JD 1585 with a/c and 6’ flail mower in the front, a JD 1445, a Altoz TRX766I, a 4500P ventrac. I do love the way the ventrac seems to hug the ground like a snake. Mine has the newer suspension seat for comfort. Cheers
Here in San Diego county and Riverside County, where it is mandatory to do Weed Abatement on your property for fire season. We are not worried about ruts. I also am not doing golf courses or front yards for that matter it’s not even May yet and it’s already paid for itself! That’s right $21,000.
I have both. The zero turn is definitely faster. Quality of cut, I definitely get a lot more compliments on the hills cut with the Ventracs.
I hear you on the crabbing thing. You're right about that situation. Having all the options you do is pretty cool.
In PA, I use it to mow, snow removal, lawn areovating and overseeding, slip scoop for moving mulch and dirt, and a tough cut for big nasty shit. My Dad uses it for leave collection in fall with the vacuum system. I got a deal on everything used all at one time, so it made a lot of sense. Everyones needs and applications are different. I do have a kubota L3200 as well and even though they are roughly the same HP the uses are completely different. Two different animals that do different things for me.
You should not have to defend you position. You have had both and this works better for you applications- bravo! (I'm a proud Ventrac owner but it doesn't do everything I need it to)
They also have ruff cut and finish deck. So you can use it for clearing areas and regular lawn mowing.
If you only cut grass then Ventrac may not be the best option for most people. I get calls all time to cut grass and I just will NOT try to compete price wise with the zero turn guys
I have bigger full size tractors and bobcat for the other stuff
Everybody has their unique jobs. You're buying equipment to meet your requirements. The Altoz is impressive. It's really not a competition.
I would like to see this in action! Looks like an awesome machine, but it’s hard to beat my ventrac…
I owned both. Easy to match or beat the tough cut deck with a lower cut. Lower price and out maneuvers the ventrac and that’s why I switched. Plenty of videos of this thing in action and it performs as advertised even on thick brush.
@@raulhogland7309 it looks awesome. Going to have to check it out! Thanks
@@raulhogland7309 agreed. I've taken my tax places that I know the previous company couldn't take their ventrac. That said, I do believe that I've seen videos of a Ventrac cutting places I don't think my Altoz could (blue cord)
Traks the answer? I'd love for a recap after a year.
I see Ventrac like a Shopsmith. They can do many things but can’t do anything the best. Besides both being really high priced initially all attachments and parts are proprietary. A compact tractor and Altoz is a much better economic decision for most. I do think i like the Cubs with steering wheel more than the altoz though if trying to eliminate turf tear on the slopes.
It you slide sideways into a tree on a ventrac you can walk it off using front down pressure on your attachment
That's definitely a beast of a machine right there 💪
So much faster at mowing it’s a dream! I was cutting 18” wild grass at top speed I’m low gear. I can do 11 mph in top gear when it’s dry grass. Turns on a dime too.
The new remote controlled mowers like the Hedge Hog might be interesting.
Remote control mowers are more of a novelty. The really powerful ones are out of most people price range at $100k plus. They are slow and you have to be right beside them to monitor performance and any hazards that it may encounter and be ready to shut it down asap. The Green Climber only has a cutting width of 4’. If that is what you do all day is cut impossible slopes, then it will pay for itself the first year. Get one. But if you have say 6 foot mowers that do 95% of your work and you are going 3-5 times as fast as the remote control one it doesn’t even begin to make sense. The slower it goes the longer it takes the more fuel I burn the more time I burn the more I risk damage the more I charge. So it’s a losing proposition for me right now. Until I get a huge Caltrans contract to pay for one or I see one used for $20k, not interested. Thanks for watching
I'm also interested in the canopy with the fan.
Rhinohyde canopies, the best! Radiator fan Amazon 35$
You have a link for the canopy and the fan?
Hows the tracks going around corners? How bad does it tear up grass doing 180 degree turns
Pretty obvious. I don’t worry about it because I don’t do lawns. I do weeds and brush. Not lawn care. But definitely leaves a mark
I own the Altoz TSX and, of you're careful, you can cut finished lawns fairly well, even with the swing blades. I wouldn't recommend it for finished lawns but I have used it at a few and it does just fine. It takes longer because you have to make wider Y turns but it won't tear up the lawn of your very careful
Sorry but this Zero Turn With rotary brush blades is NOT the same as the ventrac flail deck. So are you comparing to the flail or the tough cut on your Ventrac? $24k for a zero turn with tracks only to mow grass? This machine doesn't even come close. Maybe a better video with a side by side comparison on the same slope before you sold the Ventrac.
Dollar for dollar I prefer the Altoz. It’s faster for less. You can pick these up all day for about $19k. The tough cut deck sucks because it is very susceptible to breaking bolts from hitting rocks. So is the Altoz. But cheaper and easier to repair in the field. I prefer a flail deck but ventrac is a novice when it comes to engineering a new flail deck for the belt pto. And also plus in addition furthermore it’s TOO HEAVY for the ventrac. But I see your point. I just throw up these videos for fun. Not truly a comparison channel. I buy everything that interests me and try it. The ventrac is nice for rolling hills but slides sideways. The flail mower is great for rocks but to heavy for the ventrac to lift and reverse up the hill.
@@raulhogland7309blade bolt breaking? I’ve worn out 2 blades this summer on my hq680 haven’t broke a blade and yes I’ve hit many rocks. If your blade bolts break before the belt slips the belt is too tight.
I ran across your Honda F6B accessories video.. Are you able to give me any info on that driver's back rest?
Sorry no. Found it used on eBay
@@raulhogland7309 Shoot, okay. Thank you!
Need to go with what works best for your business.
What fan is that? Thanks
14” or 16” on Amazon or eBay. For radiator
Who deals them in Oregon?
+1 (541) 773-7777 ask for Mark tell Raul sent you
Will be interesting to see zero turn damage from the pivot track.
Who cares when you are mowing weeds?!! They can be considerable when the ground is moist. But I’m not doing turf. No lawns.
Where is the demo? One against the other for proof
What is to prove ? Side by side on 30 degree hills? First I’m not selling these. Just offering my opinion. Second. I already sold all my ventracs.
Loom up videos dude altoz is king
There is No Machine can beat Ventrac with its versatility.
You probably just don't need it with the nature of your business. But for the business I have, it is very efficient and useful.
I think the most versatile machines by far are bobcats. Not the ventrac. For attachment availability and prices hands down. The ventrac couldn’t scrape anything but very light weeds on the road. Could not push dirt or lift and move like a subcompact tractor or a bobcat. All it really can do well is mow on hills. Look at all the videos. How many are construction? How many are mowing? Bradley is the only guy o know that built an entire business on around it.
If you have a boatload of money you can get a bobcat and excavator a dozer and a mower .
@@MrCubflyer yup. That’s what I did. BECAUSE I tried them all I made more money using better equipment
you have a john deere 1445 that is so awesome I myself am trying to get a 1445
I’m selling mine with a flail mower. In San Diego
@@raulhogland7309 cool I'm getting one from my local school district in a couple years when they trade it in for a new 1585 terraincut
Ok thanks 👍
I cut 40° hills no problem on my ventra .
With a flail mower? Can you back up hill? Thanks for the comment
@@raulhogland7309 I've got the tough cutt. And I can back up hills aslong as my tires aren't wet.
@@jodyjohnson9978 Hey mate not advertising but have a look at the agromehanika 860. I reckon you'll find it interesting
I've never had an issue with my Ventrac, sounds like to me he dosen't know how to operate it and that could be very dangerous. I've been in places you won't put a ALTOZ, or any other piece of equipment!! VENTRAC ALL THE WAY!!!
@@medlinlandmaintenancellc do you have the flail mower on yours? I’ve owned 4 Ventracs. Great machine but like I said , just a glorified mower in my opinion. If you have the money, like I do, Thank you Jesus, you buy different tractors to do the different work. I have a bobcat s750 with a/c, a Kubota U17 mini x, Kubota M7060 with a/c with a 8’ flail mower on the back for larger parcels, a JD 1585 with a/c and 6’ flail mower in the front, a JD 1445, a Altoz TRX766I, a 4500P ventrac. I do love the way the ventrac seems to hug the ground like a snake. Mine has the newer suspension seat for comfort. Cheers
I'd love to get my hands on a machine like that
I sure can't tell much about the mower. can't even see it
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Yeah, you'll rut a yard bad with that. It'll make a bushhog and that's it.
Here in San Diego county and Riverside County, where it is mandatory to do Weed Abatement on your property for fire season. We are not worried about ruts. I also am not doing golf courses or front yards for that matter it’s not even May yet and it’s already paid for itself! That’s right $21,000.
@@raulhogland7309 I have a mandatory weed abatement program on my place too and cannot afford one-trick ponies for every job that needs done.
Two machines that have nothing in common with one another
How much, I bet way overpriced
You are comparing APPLES & ZEBRA’S here……..
The Zebra being the Altoz 😀
Dude you seem to be struggling to breathe
You can’t tell me that it being zero turn on tracks isn’t going to obliterate the turf.
Turf? Did I say I do golf courses? Sorry. Brush and weeds. It does make a mess when I am full speed and turn on a dime. But nobody cares.