I was a bouncer for 10 years and have been in numerous violent encounters. I am also trained in multiple martial arts... The one thing I recomend, is train in actual street clothes, because that is the only way you will find out what works or not. Most of what I know how to do was useless when I was wearing jeans, heavy boots, a jacket, and carrying a heavy flashlight in my pocket. It is easy to do techmiques in shorts and a tshirt, but that is not what youare wearing everyday... so put on jeans, a jacket, shoes, boots, a skirt, heels, a backpack, a prse, etc... and train in that. That will teach you the limitations of your style and how to mod it for a real survival situation. AND PRESSURE TEST CONSTANTLY.
Training with stuff in your pockets is also pretty good, most people have no idea of how much a big phone in a not very deep front pocket limits your mobility
That is something I must always smile about. There are people who can lift their feet straight over their head. But that is far away from a useful skill in a real scenario struggle if you just wear a casual business trouser and a phone and key in your pockets.
There’s no harm of staying a business or in your car if there are sketchy people hanging around & yes, always trust your instincts. That’s what they’re there for. There is no simple answer & there are no guarantees that you’ll win the altercation even if you’re well trained.
I was on the phone outside, alone one day and someone tried to … “sell me candy.” Training that centerline and keeping the hands up is massively important.
There’s a technique in HEMA (fiore specifically) that is pretty similar to that. Wrestling with a two handed grip on the weapon hand, and the opponent gets low, you can pull it between their legs and take them down. Sometimes they even flip
The lesson that icy Mike is teaching to Jesse is pure gold, "just run" is not an universal solution, self defense is about prevent the bad scenarios and have skills to overcome the bad intentions of some bad guys.
If someone told:"Just KO", people would remind it isn't always that easy. "Just run" isn't much better piece of advice. It can help if A: You're a better runner B: The attacker doesn't follow. Don't assume running is easy and safe. It can be.
@@mikaluostarinen4858 always depends on the situation. for instance if there's a crowd of people a short way a way, you are less likely to be persued and only need a brief window. if it's a back alley with no one around for a while, well 1 I'd ask why you where there but, 2 that's a very different situation.
Yeah. People misunderstand it, when they are told running is the best self defence (after deescalating the situation before it gets to a fight). When you can run. Run. If you can't, fight until you can create the situation where you can run. Like Mike showed when Jesse got him to the ground. That is the point where he can run and escape. No need to fight more and risk injury.
Seeing Jesse actually fight is so amazing. I love that he has gotten into this realm of Mike and Seth. This mixture of tradition and very crisp technique with quick and dirty proven fighting is soo fun to watch and very helpful, because so many have this formal low contact youth training and now we see a way from there to actual fighting
@@Tenchigumi I know I am a white belt , and I also know that I know I am a white belt, and I also know that I know I am a white belt who also knows he’s a white belt ……..AD ,
Street awareness has only a few rules: 1. Always be respectful to strangers until you can't be. Respect is the law on the streets. Your ego will get you maimed or killed. 2. Always know your surroundings BEFORE you commit to anything. This includes expecting that no one will come to your aide. Your ego will get you maimed or killed. 3. Always have an escape plan. Bullies, oppressors, thugs, etc. always travel in groups and don't fight fair. Just because you don't see the others, assume they're near or on their way. Real life fighting isn't the action movies. Your ego will get you maimed or killed.
" Just because you don't see the others, assume they're near or on their way". That's why when people say BJJ and taking someone to the ground is superior, it only goes so far when you got the dude on the ground and 2 of his buddies enter the fight and start kicking you in the head and such.
That's what usually happens when you really understand the wisdom of traditional martial arts in a legit dojo with a real master. The martial arts community has a very distorted image of styles such as Karate, Taekwondo, Kung Fu and others.
its hard to hate humble and honest practitioners who know when to say "I've never done that" I think a lot of the... frustration more than hate for traditional arts is around people who as mike was saying in the video completely ignore that there are different scenarios, events and situations and assume their situation is the "true" one, whether its traditional arts, or street fighters who say dirty tactics win. But compare that with people willing, eager to learn, happy to offer knowledge but humble enough to absorb it as well. It makes it impossible not to like that person and by extension the part of their life that they credit for building them up.
i watched Mike for quite some time and i want to tell you that you perfectly showed a host in a way where he was able to explain most of the knowledge without being interupted but he was also being asked the important questions from you who was also subtly and nicely putting in experience and opinions to his teaching. I didnt even watch the whole video yet i had to stop to comment this because your way of "interviewing" is simply brilliant keep up the good work!
when i clicked this I thought this dude was gonna spew some random BS but he has undoubtably some of the best/most realistic self defense takes I have heard on this platform. Kudos to Jesse for always having such high quality guest on his show and being a true martial artist sharing wisdom and being open minded.
I have to agree. He gave extremely reasonable and well-rounded answers without pigeonholing any topics and addressed the overall need for competence. Even better is how digestible the information was and how he boils down some complex scenarios to a very basic explanation.
@@Riezmannzayd He doesn't really mean "don't run" He just hate those mindset, why? Because there's many everyday scenario when running isn't an optimal choices. If your mindset is "just run", you might automatically running a possible threat despite you have circumstances when running isn't optimal. He still does recommend running tho, in the "use your instincts" section.
@@Riezmannzayd yeah, if you can run, then do it. But sometimes you need to defend first either due to location, distance, or threat. If you’re backed into a spot with no obvious exit route past an attacker, you should definitely be prepared and competent at defending yourself. Likewise, if they’ve already grabbed you in some way, like by a wrist or shirt, you probably can’t just turn and run.
I was in a street fight outside of a bar where I worked, and I was really into Taekwondo at that time. I let the dude get back up like it was a sparring match instead of trying to punish him while he was down. It did not even occur to me to attack him while he was down. It wasn't pity; it was due to habit from training where attacking a downed opponent is taboo. Hitting him while he was down seemed like dirty fighting, and I was a lot more capable on my feet anyway. I later learned that he was wearing brass knuckles when he tried to discard it after the fight was over.
I don't know , but through my yrs of experiences, street fights is always dirty, that's why I always carry a small knife, just in case, n it kept me alive after all these night life yrs.
/facepalm told ws my main style originally but whomever trained you either didnt knownwyat they were doing or did you a major disservice by not training you fir the real world vs sparring/ contests etc Tkd if used properly can be very effective but you cant learn it only with the mindset of sparring or those that learn it for movies only (I've worked with a bunch of them over the yrs and very few would last in a real fight despite "earning their bb" and using flashy moves for the camera only
It takes years to a martial arts and self-defense practitioner to understand all these knowledge that Mike was able to summarize in 16 min. Videos like this are extremely valuable!
@@carlodefalco7930 No, it's not. There are many myths in self-defense such as "don't kick in the head", "never take the fight to the ground", "don't strike with the fist to avoid injury", "all you need is a gun or knife to defend yourself", "to defend yourself you just need to use dirty techniques", "just run for your life", "never let the distance close" "repeating katas is excellent for self-defense", "sparring is not good training for self-defense", among many others. Many martial arts practitioners still believe in one or more of these myths. People who have never trained anything believe even more.
@@MarinhoRFilhothese r obv m8, for example when they say don't hit the head, in karate for example, because you're sparring, but on the streets nobody says don't hit the head, we used to learn techniques to hit the face and the head, but we didn't use them in sparring so the opponent doesn't get hurt, which usually in local sparring would be a friend or a mate.
This is actually a very educative intro into the world of Streetfighting. I've seen hundreds of videos about this kind of thing, but this is the first one with a very realistic approach. You rock, Jesse!
@@KARATEbyJesse Are standing kimuras and inside leg trips standard karate techniques? Also a wrestling run-the-pipe motion when you had him in the improvised wrist-control single leg.
This dude isn't just a good fighter, he's a good teacher It takes a LOT of understanding to be able to express complex concepts with minimalist language I would love to see this guy have a brainstorm session with the people who are doing fight manual revival/interpretation; stuff like Fiore or Meyer or Vadi. Because, as he said, 'violence is violence' and fight philosophy is universal
Icy Mike isn't too big on HEMA stuff. He doesn't really see it as relevant, considering most people don't fight with swords and bucklers anymore. I disagree, considering grappling and basic striking is the foundation of most Western systems involving weapons. But most HEMA clubs just nerd over swords and neglect wrestling/other aspects to begin with.
Somewhere here on the tube there's an interesting comparison of hema vs modern knife fighting. I think a big part seemed to be that people wore more clothes back then, and you really don't wanna kill anyone nowadays
I love this martial arts channels colab universe. Instead of trash talking or "competing" for viewers you guys got together and shared your knowledge and viewers with each other to everyone's benefit.
As someone who's had to defend himself from multiple, larger opponents inside my own building's stairs, I stand by the front kick. It's _literally_ a life saver.
TH-cam needs more uploads like this. Honest, no BS, no ego wank & reality based. That kind of training can help save lives. It can take many years to reach a high level of proficiency. But it may take many more to find a REALLY decent teacher. This ex cop is .
The sheer amount of honesty delivered with respect, humility, and no doubt experience; made this such a refreshingly educational and fascinating video. Thank you, both of you. Love your stuff Jesse, keep it up.
The second you realize there's guys walking around that wouldn't last 1 round in a cage against Jon Jones but those same guys could end Jon Jone's life in 30 seconds on the street, if for no reason other than underestimation, surprise, concealed weapons, more opportune timing, or just straight up more killer instinct (of which Jones has plenty), your paradigm begins to shift and the way you look at combat changes forever
The hat throw, then the camera diversion, was excellent. The training scenarios, and the way they played out actually felt real. A lot of demonstrations usually have a "master" who is never beaten and does all the cool variations, but we have two masters here who are just trying things with each other, with no predictable outcome, demonstrating the chaos of street fights.
very true. there's never a surefire technique to win every situation. there's a human element and you both have a say on what happens. you have to be able to flow and be aware of all of your options as advantages. this was a great video that I'm sure opened a lot of people's eyes.@@KARATEbyJesse
I learned Bruce Lee's side kick where you raise your hand in the air like you are reaching for something on the top of his head. Then you explode with the sidekick while he is diverted for a half second.
This was great from the first minute. I was really impressed by Jesse's ability, and Mike's lack of ego in the exchanges; some instructors would be obsessed with not losing in any exchange, but Mike's focus was on instructing.
Not sure if restraint or fear of guilt, it gets to us more often than not, gotta learn to assess risk and suppress mercy & guilt when necessary. I take it in a disarming philosophy (typical Japanese MA) I try to talk first, than move to physically disabling the guy, if he insists I don't refrain from the snaps. If I assess it's a life threat it's disarm at all costs, no risks to save the assailant
"No one's ever been taught this Jesse!" 🤣 This guy is great. Very engaging, knows his stuff, accepts what he doesn't know, keeps it very real. Also, he isn't massive, he is quite un assuming but you know he is deadly. Great guest to have. Would love to see more with him in the future.
As a bouncer who was only 5'10 I was always at a disadvantage with larger opponents. My most useful moves were the single and double leg takedown like pointed out in the video. Another beneficial one was the vovinam single arm takedown from the clinch. Vovinam is a good martial art for smaller people. I also trained Northern Shaolin and BJJ for a few years. This was an incredible display of real scenarios that are often not seen. 10/10. Both of you are amazing to see and putting thousands of bullshido gurus to shame with real life examples shown at an extremely high level. Just awesome. More people should see this.
I bet when you’re training on a bag, youre aiming for the face of a bloke thats a foot taller than you - but you never see tall blokes punching a bag nearly 2 feet below their face! I’m no expert by any means I’m 5’8 I had to defend myself once from a lanky 6’8 lamp post lookalike and I was just as shocked as he was when his blows all went over the top of my head or hit my arm because I grabbed his collar and choked him with my left before I threw any actual hands at him. Two punches in the mouth and he decided that was enough
In my experience, taller people tend to underestimate shorter people. I am about 5’9.5”, guys taller/bigger than me that I have had to “lay hands” on almost always underestimate me because of height.
If you're talking about height... it actually the taller people that have a disadvantage against shorter people. If you had a disadvantage against taller people then it just skill issue and had nothing to do with being 5'10"
This was for me by far the best realistic explanation to understand the street fight situation. I practice karate, but never really gave a thought about how actually there is no rule or referee in a street fight. I literally subscribed after watching this episode. Thank you, love to watch and learn more.
The more I watch and listen to Mike, the more, even with some Muay Thai training, to just really try to not put myself in a precarious position... People are crazy nowadays. Too many variables. Not worth it.
Oh man, you have no idea. People can be extremely creative, vicious, and cruel in such scenarios. It's one thing to practice these things in a safe environment but in a real life scenario you're more likely to have tunnel vision due to high adrenaline, which causes you to have less awareness of your surroundings. The attacker may be armed with a knife or he may have friends who attack you from behind while you're busy fighting the guy in front of you. It all happens so fast. In these kind of situations you need to keep calm and collected, and be observant.
@@nudaveritas8195 Practicing helps with calmness usually actual fighters might be too calm in the streets instead of having a tunnel vision which is why practicing is great (sparring)
I have never lost a street fight until recently. I grew up in a city that saw and encouraged young men of low wage working-class backgrounds to be tough. As a young boy, I often found myself in fights. Fortunately and unbeknownst to me, I was a good fighter. So, with that brief qualifier, I will get to my point, which is that I am recognising my growing limitations with increasing age. So for the first time in my life, I am looking more at avoidance and less at proving myself.
I am an MMA fighter who has learned boxing, Muay Thai, and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. I've read many comics about different combat styles, and even got into a few fights back when I was in school. While I was learning these martial arts, I often pondered the differences between street fighting and the arena, how to win by any means necessary, and how to select the most effective fighting techniques for street combat. I believe this video aligns with many of my thoughts. It's highly valuable!
15 year cop that worked in Stockton, CA area. The greatest advice I was given and I heard in the video is LISTEN to your instinct. That Spidey Sense is invaluable!!! Other things are WEAPONS OF OPPORTUNITY and last thing, there is NO SHAME in sprinting your ass out of danger!! Create distance baby...hundreds of yards of it!!
Aside from my own desire my parents put me in Karate as a kid because we were in a rough neighborhood. So I had to learn both at the same time. I have to say that Karate REALLY gave me a huge edge but you have to know how to apply it in real situations and not just sparring or tournaments. I'm glad that Mike brought up the difficulty of doing things while someone can pummel your face. That is my biggest peeve when I hear people talk about fighting that haven't actually had to fight for their own safety before. You also can't see jack except a fist when you're getting hit in the face. People imagine fights like they're lookin through a camera or something instead of what you'll actually be seeing in a fight.
Wrestling teaches you the same thing to an extent. Not really in highschool cause there's little hand fighting, but definitely in college. Dudes hands are all in your face specifically to cover your eyes for a takedown. Or smothering you stuffing any attempt you could make.
Any martial training gives an edge over anyone without it. If an untrained person has to think about what they are doing then the trained person has an edge, and if the untrained person is not thinking then they are throwing a right hook, which gives the trained person an edge.
Being able to think calmly while in a real fight is the biggest thing IMO for the average person to pick up regardless of whatever style of martial arts they’re learning.
Same thing with every and all spinning techniques. You don't expect a foot to come flying from "behind the person". Cause that's what it feels like, the spin hide the actual kick or punch and now you suddenly just have something flying towards your face in 390 miles per hour and no time to react.
So true , I was watching an action movie with a few mates and the fight scene where the baddies were taking turns to fight the goodie . We all looked at each other thinking the same thing, it would be nice if that happened in real street fights, which we all had been in a few times.
"Violence is violence" is a real truth. I learned martial arts as a kid and i rarely ended up in fights, and if i did i knew the rules of combat if thats what you want to call it. An example would be that if youre beat, you give up, which isnt something you know by nature. Also, you learn to carry yourself as someone as a person who know how to fight, which surprisingly leads to you getting into less fights.
Most people don't want to fight with people who know how to fight. It's not like hoodies are anime protagonists on mission to become best fighters by beating other best, or ancient death cult members who will try to attack you no matter what. They want to easily intimidate/mug/beat victim. If they see somebody looking like he knows how to fight and is trained they back off.
Martial arts skill is not a force field. And the end of the day intent beats skill. Martial arts rlly only work against low to mild intent and it depends how u use it.
I did kickboxing/combative for 14 years but now do Bjj (gi and no gi) for about 5-6 months now and this dude spoke more truth in this 16min video than any "self defense" or martial arts youtuber ive ever seen. Cops know whats up and ive worked with and trained with many who said the same thing this man did. I think im going to give @hard2hurt a follow and subscribe now, this is a no BS dude and i like that!
Here is a perfect example of what a great sensei taught me years ago. Do what you were trained to do, and you will win. If you try to fight the opponent’s fight you will lose.
Been training in martial arts for nearly 30 yrs. This is one of the most useful self defence vids I've seen. Reminiscent of Geoff Thompson material from the 90s.
I've seen a lot of self defense content over the years. This video outperforms literally everything. And by that I don't mean to say other content I've watched isn't equally valuable. There's a lot of good stuff out there teaching real street fighting information that shows what actually works and doesn't work. Hard-hitting facts. But the amount of information in this video alone is just huge, and it's also truthful and correct, and very well taught. Respect.
That was one of the best demonstrated and discussed practical application of self defense I have seen in a long time. No bravado, no ego, just straightforward wisdom. Great job.
I loved what he said about the "just run" thing, I've always thought about the same, like should I just run away from the attackers and leave behind my slower friends or family to the scenario alone? No way!
Running away greatly reduces the possibility of death and in a pure survival scenario that is objectively one of if not the best thing to do. I repeat: the 100 bucks in your wallet is not worth the 1000 dollars somebody's gotta for over for your funeral
Best self-defense video I've seen in a long time. Mike's voluminous experience as an officer and his martial arts training has taught him well and for Jesse it's a matter of taking the sometimes rigid form of karate techniques (and his considerable athleticism and skill through years of repetitive practice) and using them intelligently by changing his mindset about how to use them. Great stuff guys!
"Your ability to throw that kick far outstrips the ability of any of these yoho's out here to defend a kick" - love this point. My sensei always tells us to remember more often that not if you get into a fight the other person has not learned how to properly throw a punch or a kick and we can use that against them.
One of the best vids i’ve seen on this subject because this guy knows what he’s talking about … he’s not bragging about this and that, not trying to prove anything, he simply shares his experiences👍
This is probably the best video I have seen of either of you. Nicely done. I have never had to defend myself from serious violence, so I don't teach self-defence nor claim to teach it. I only teach what I know. If I had to define self-defence, I would say it is: "The use of intelligence, emotion and physics to overcome violence." For me, the points Mike makes in this video are exactly that.
The best fighter in a street setting can both effectively evade/block critical damage, but more importantly think outside the box. I have a black belt in karate with some mma training and I used to get myself in to situations where I needed to defend myself through unorthodox means. (young and dumb you might say) You have to think like a wild animal, where everything and anything is a weapon to give you an advantage or provide a window of opportunity for you (or your opponent)... I once escaped being pinned against a wall in a wrist lock by managing to grab ahold of a broom with my free hand and jabbing at his face with it, once he dropped his weight and bent his knees to avoid my (pretty weak) but painful jabs with the broom handle, I promptly broke his controling position by donkey kicking him directly in his now unprotected nuts. He dropped like a sack of potatoes. He learned one of this video's lessons the hard way: Don't go for holds unless the hold, by itself, will allow you to quickly neutralize your opponent... being painful isn't enough (I knew how to shift my hand to neutralize it's immediate effectiveness). Also, if at all possible, don't proritize conditional control techniques over swift and brutal action that you can easily abandon/disengage from at any point. If he hadn't pinned me against the wall with no way to end the fight swiftly/stop my aggression without wrestling to maintain control of my arm and keep me contained, I likely wouldn't have had the precious seconds to locate the broom and then use it to set up an effective counter attack. I also learned a lesson that day, don't square up in a traditional stance in close quartets with someone becayse you don't know what they're going to do. I thought he would fight me the way I was trained to fight, but he was much bigger and heavier than me- he simply grabbed my lead hand (I had practically offered him) and put me in the arm bar
@@auntoneyofuntease6704 well you see how short he is and how many weapons he's caring he's obviously someone he's been a crybaby his whole life and he's trying to make up for it he's probably a little bitch cops are always the biggest little bitches.
@@auntoneyofuntease6704actually not exactly how that works at all maybe just maybe in promotional situations depending on dept but fto they usually pick the guys that can train the future guys usually
Oh man, I absolutely love these collabs. This FightTube community is amazing, from Jesse to Mike to Seth to Kevin and so on. We always get so much out of every video they do together and what's awesome is you can tell that they do, too.
Fantastic video. I love how a lot of what Mike touched on is that anyone trained extensively in a combat sport (martial art, wrestling, MMA) becomes intimately familiar with combat in the sport's context. Fighting within those rules, against opponents who understand that environment. Street fighting doesn't suddenly make those techniques invalid at all, but changes the environment and context adding so many other considerations, and if you are stuck with a narrow, sport specific mindset it will be a disadvantage.
This is good stuff. I've trained my whole life and spent 20 years in homeless hostels and on the streets and in other people's homes as a social worker and the reality is that people have such weird energy systems it's very unpredictable. I've had staff absolutely devastated because a client of theirs they had a good relationship with assaulted them unpredictability. One time I was in a house with an older fella with a brain injury who had killed someone once and it was all cool till he tried turning the TV off but he kept turning it back on and then he lost his shit and tried to stop me leaving and grabbing his knife (which was out of reach and I pushed past and ran for it). The point being, one of the reasons people get assaulted is that it always comes from a weird social space that you don't quite know how to react to. But I tell you what? You'll think about the ones you got wrong at least once a year for the rest of your life.
As a freshly graduated social worker who already experienced being held hostage by someone with a knife while delivering some medicine to him and having to wait for the police - yeah, you remember it allright 😂
This was a really great video - the self defence mentality is something that is talked about a lot (including by me to my students) but something about Mike's delivery really made me think about it more deeply than I [maybe ever] have. Thank you. The level of collaboration between TH-cam martial artists is great; can't wait for season 2 of self defence championship.
This was a very valuable video, wow. I am a Karate Black Belt and have practised Muay Thai for more than a decade but when it comes to street fight, I never did that and never faced any situation and what he told me here hits me hard because I have never trained to think like that. Thanks!
This is one of the best videos I've seen on real-life self defense, Would love to see a follow up collab between you too in different locations and scenarios
Recently been binging a bunch of content like this and have started following you, Mike, Seth, and others…but this was so valuable to watch. Thanks for the info and insights
Awesome video. This guy's the real deal. Seen a street fight one guy against two idiots just looking to fight, he was just defending himself and prevent the two from surrounding him and he landed a perfect high head kick to one of the idiots, he was obviously well trained and a competitive fighter and the two idiots backed off pretty quick. I don't condone violence on the street but it was a thing of beauty.
This is the type of instruction I love. Practical application and not only the how, but more importantly the why. You two make a great teaching combo! Awesome questions and explainations.
I'd definitely love to see more content geared towards self-defense! Maybe some videos on the Karate techniques/bunkai we already know from practicing the Art that would be the most useful and effective in self-defense scenarios, and how they can best be adapted to that realistic context!
The best self-defense is Miyagi do. Don't get into a situation where you need self-defense. Be alert for danger and avoid it. Yeah, I know, sometimes it's unavoidable.
One of your best videos Jesse. The keyword was definitely "Remember" . It's true that many times we forget how many options we have, overwhelmed by our emotions. In a competition fight, we also can forget how many moves we have (too busy repeating our 3 best combos ..). How do you manage to keep cool and remember it all?
So true. Granted it is great to have a few "go to" techniques in the back pocket. Your old faithful moves that you can hit 9/10 times and are almost a reflex. But especially when training it is good to try to expand and get used to throwing out some more odd moves. I mean I am trying to incorporate the superman punch into my sparring repertoire, if only because noone expects a guy my size to go flying at them. I think one of the keys is actually thinking when in a fight. Like if you just landed 2/3 decent hits on a person you will have a second to think about what you are up to. If you get into a stable position in a grapple you have a moment to consider your options. Not long, but some time.
Icy Mike has the best approach to self defense on the youtube. Practical, informed and realistic. He normally doesn't put all of this content in a single video and this makes this one of the best self defense videos out there.
Most people fold in true conflict. I always found in street fighting, the craziest guy wins. You can’t be afraid to throw that punch/kick/elbow/knee without hesitation. I will never wait for them to take the first shot. That doesn’t mean I sucker punch somebody, it means I’m aware and ready to go to blows in a split second. That’s the mindset.
Well done Jesse. I always appreciate your humility and open perspective shown to others. I also enjoyed Mike’s take on awareness outside the confines of a traditional controlled environment.
As a martial artist who has been in street fights with up to 11 people, mike is 100% right. You use what you know, adapt it to the situation and respond with as much violence as you need before getting away. The only real thing I would add is the first time you're in a street fight is always the worst because you think you are ready but rarely ever are anywhere near a state close to ready. Training for it is the most important thing if you want to stand a chance.
@@nfloz11 Humbly, I think your confusing the terms "street fight" with "gangbang." It is believable that you were gangbanged by 35 guys and came out a winner 😬🏆. It is NOT believable that you were in a 30+ v. 1 STREET FIGHT and did anything but die. That being said, live your life girl. Slaaaaaay! 😂😂
@@nfloz11 35 is nothing. I was in a streetlight with 127 guys. I used techniques that have never been seen before and walked away unharmed. 72 of those guys lay dead and 21 with broken limbs.
A truly great video, recognizing the strengths of different ways of training, learning and applying technique. In my 47 years of martial arts training in Taekwondo, Japanese jujutsu and Kempo, I've always trained in schools that thought in exactly this way, probably because the instructors all had substantial real-life street experience in New York City (social workers in narcotics, cops, Department of Homeland Security). Every point Mike brought out was not only valid, but it's interesting to me that most martial arts schools -- traditional or combat sports -- don't think like that when training to fight. By the way, I ended an attack on my from behind when I was a young black belt with a high side kick. I caught him right under the chin. High kicks can work, if you know how to kick and when to kick. Great job, Jesse, and regards to Mike.
Was never a fan of Icy Mike but this video gave me mad respect for the dude! Definitely would like to see more martial arts incorporating street scenarios into their training
Thank you, Jesse. This was an amazing video. Aside from sharing real life experiences, I thought as a concept it reminded me of "Jet Kun Do" and Bruce Lee's final philosophy on "the absence of form" so to speak, where formal technique is only useful if you can apply it out of context, or in a purely improvisational manner. Speaks to presence of mind
I knew a guy years ago, with a massive bad attitude and short temper, who stabbed a guy in the chest because he asked him to turn his motorbike off. The other guy didn't even know he was in a fight until he was fighting for his life. That story has always stuck with me and made me much more aware of how quickly these things can happen.
I love this! I'm not a fighter, so I didn't notice Jesse's mistakes but it makes so much sense that he didn't even know they were, he was trained in a disciplined fighting form with rules and fairness in mind, the other guy is literally teaching him how to forget about the rules, bridging the gap between an experienced martial artist and a strong aggressive person on the street whose only experiences are other dirty fights in the street with no rules except "survive"
This is awesome stuff!! When training, I often find people get caught up in the transition and forget their options; striking while in the clinch or on the ground, etc. Using your environment against your opponent is a great way to make people not only pay better attention to their surroundings, but think about not only their options, but their opponent's potential options aswell.
Wow, just love the guy! You can tell his skillset is high above the skillset of those self proclaimed defense specialists out there, especially the ones on TH-cam. Love this video! Thanks for making this video and sharing it with the world, @Jesse!
Another thing to remember, there are things around you. If you get into an altercation in a store, the objects on the shelves (and the shelves themselves) are in play.
Mike is so great at teaching. The audience won big time, seriously. You guys should do a whole series about traditional stuff applied to street fight situations. Help us to fill the gap between Martial Arts, Combat Sports and Self Defence! Get Seth, Kevin, Mike, Rokas and let`s go!
helps in understanding the options one has in a streetfight you never would have thought of. spot on about the skills required to keep the fight from going to the ground. the way i see it, Jesse would be more than capable of keeping it that way and if it goes down, his distance transitions were evident.
I took a hit to the groin during a bar fight back when I was in the Army. I won the fight, but about 45 minutes later, I was in serious pain down there and realized I’d also sprained my thumb. Didn’t feel a thing during or right after the fight-it wasn’t until the adrenaline wore off that the pain kicked in. Just a heads-up, a low blow won’t do much if your opponent is fired up and running on adrenaline.
It would be comedy gold to see Steven Seagal try to educate Mike. I can just hear Seagal now "Well your methods won't work because if you did that, I would just do this....". And 2 seconds later Seagal would be on the ground.
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Who won? 😎
Definitely you Jesse.😊
@@YTA-f6cI might have gotten stabbed about 3 times though 😂
The Swedish karateka, named Jesse, has won.
Team Jesse forever!
You are safe so everyone wins, kudos.
I was a bouncer for 10 years and have been in numerous violent encounters. I am also trained in multiple martial arts... The one thing I recomend, is train in actual street clothes, because that is the only way you will find out what works or not. Most of what I know how to do was useless when I was wearing jeans, heavy boots, a jacket, and carrying a heavy flashlight in my pocket. It is easy to do techmiques in shorts and a tshirt, but that is not what youare wearing everyday... so put on jeans, a jacket, shoes, boots, a skirt, heels, a backpack, a prse, etc... and train in that. That will teach you the limitations of your style and how to mod it for a real survival situation. AND PRESSURE TEST CONSTANTLY.
Training with stuff in your pockets is also pretty good, most people have no idea of how much a big phone in a not very deep front pocket limits your mobility
And ladies put your heels on and go play self defence
@@yvonnesanders4308 Or maybe just don't wear heels, they're terrible not just for self defense situations, but for you body aswell
That is something I must always smile about. There are people who can lift their feet straight over their head. But that is far away from a useful skill in a real scenario struggle if you just wear a casual business trouser and a phone and key in your pockets.
Pressure makes diamonds! 👍 But it also bursts pipes 😅
"Trust your instinct. When something feels weird, it is weird." Probably the best advice I've heard to survive in a fishy area.
exactly
You sed it all but you have to make sure to find we’re it comes from, so you’ll know how to Bette appreand
Said every insecure person ever!
There’s no harm of staying a business or in your car if there are sketchy people hanging around & yes, always trust your instincts. That’s what they’re there for. There is no simple answer & there are no guarantees that you’ll win the altercation even if you’re well trained.
I was on the phone outside, alone one day and someone tried to … “sell me candy.”
Training that centerline and keeping the hands up is massively important.
This is so good, gentlemen 👏 Hope this really sinks in and helps to keep (good) people safe!
Thanks Shane! 👍
What do you mean by good?
@@jonathanwu6508People who don't walk around picking fights with everybody.
Good and evil is subjective
@@drm.himselfNo, that is a LIE.
A wise man once said... "I can't let you get close."
Thanks uncle Chael.
SONNEN! Nice reference dude!
Ohhhh shoot, that episode was soooo lit! Wanderlei said , we go NOW! He found out real quick😂😂😂😂😂
Then took Vanderlei down while saying "fuckin' amateur".
WANNANOW
Respect to the American Gangster ✊🏻🇺🇲
I gotta start working on that single leg with the wrist tie... what a dope takedown Jesse.
It was pretty good. And your insights were good as always.
You made it happen!! 🔥 Thanks for being a great teacher, colleague and friend Mike 🙏
Or to put him in cradle position. Works in a similar way.
We want the tutorial !
There’s a technique in HEMA (fiore specifically) that is pretty similar to that. Wrestling with a two handed grip on the weapon hand, and the opponent gets low, you can pull it between their legs and take them down. Sometimes they even flip
The lesson that icy Mike is teaching to Jesse is pure gold, "just run" is not an universal solution, self defense is about prevent the bad scenarios and have skills to overcome the bad intentions of some bad guys.
It’s one of many possible solutions 👍
If someone told:"Just KO", people would remind it isn't always that easy. "Just run" isn't much better piece of advice. It can help if A: You're a better runner B: The attacker doesn't follow. Don't assume running is easy and safe. It can be.
I live in Canada. The law states you have a duty to retreat even in your own home. Its total bullshit and only gets people hurt or killed.
@@mikaluostarinen4858 always depends on the situation. for instance if there's a crowd of people a short way a way, you are less likely to be persued and only need a brief window. if it's a back alley with no one around for a while, well 1 I'd ask why you where there but, 2 that's a very different situation.
Yeah. People misunderstand it, when they are told running is the best self defence (after deescalating the situation before it gets to a fight). When you can run. Run. If you can't, fight until you can create the situation where you can run. Like Mike showed when Jesse got him to the ground. That is the point where he can run and escape. No need to fight more and risk injury.
Seeing Jesse actually fight is so amazing. I love that he has gotten into this realm of Mike and Seth. This mixture of tradition and very crisp technique with quick and dirty proven fighting is soo fun to watch and very helpful, because so many have this formal low contact youth training and now we see a way from there to actual fighting
Thanks, glad to hear! 👍
@@KARATEbyJesseI think the white belt mindset that you take one over and over again is what ultimately makes you a great teacher and martial artist
@@thor498 "All I know is that I know I'm a white belt."
- Socrates. Sorta.
He really can make Karate as Street Fighting form.
@@Tenchigumi
I know I am a white belt , and I also know that I know I am a white belt, and I also know that I know I am a white belt who also knows he’s a white belt ……..AD ,
Street awareness has only a few rules:
1. Always be respectful to strangers until you can't be. Respect is the law on the streets. Your ego will get you maimed or killed.
2. Always know your surroundings BEFORE you commit to anything. This includes expecting that no one will come to your aide. Your ego will get you maimed or killed.
3. Always have an escape plan. Bullies, oppressors, thugs, etc. always travel in groups and don't fight fair. Just because you don't see the others, assume they're near or on their way. Real life fighting isn't the action movies. Your ego will get you maimed or killed.
" Just because you don't see the others, assume they're near or on their way". That's why when people say BJJ and taking someone to the ground is superior, it only goes so far when you got the dude on the ground and 2 of his buddies enter the fight and start kicking you in the head and such.
@@teleguy5699 U r on point, no one should b on the ground, in street altercation.
I feel like there's a reason you said that 3 times... 🤔
i love posting subliminal messaging on the internet
And always know your first weapon. Even if it's your keys, a rock nearby. No reason not use a weapon to defend yourself
It's funny how Mike went from hating karate to colaborating with karatekas - Wonderboy, Seth, Varga and one and only The Karate Nerd 😊
He has a big heart 😊
That’s because Jesse taught him a lesson he’ll never forget
I don't think Mike's attitude towards karate has changed significantly over the years.
That's what usually happens when you really understand the wisdom of traditional martial arts in a legit dojo with a real master. The martial arts community has a very distorted image of styles such as Karate, Taekwondo, Kung Fu and others.
its hard to hate humble and honest practitioners who know when to say "I've never done that" I think a lot of the... frustration more than hate for traditional arts is around people who as mike was saying in the video completely ignore that there are different scenarios, events and situations and assume their situation is the "true" one, whether its traditional arts, or street fighters who say dirty tactics win.
But compare that with people willing, eager to learn, happy to offer knowledge but humble enough to absorb it as well. It makes it impossible not to like that person and by extension the part of their life that they credit for building them up.
i watched Mike for quite some time and i want to tell you that you perfectly showed a host in a way where he was able to explain most of the knowledge without being interupted but he was also being asked the important questions from you who was also subtly and nicely putting in experience and opinions to his teaching. I didnt even watch the whole video yet i had to stop to comment this because your way of "interviewing" is simply brilliant keep up the good work!
Thank you!
WELL SAID!!
Agreed!
This is the comment I wanted to make, except worded much better!
Yeah, man! This guy interviewed Steven Seagal and didn't even Crack a smile!!
when i clicked this I thought this dude was gonna spew some random BS but he has undoubtably some of the best/most realistic self defense takes I have heard on this platform. Kudos to Jesse for always having such high quality guest on his show and being a true martial artist sharing wisdom and being open minded.
I have to agree. He gave extremely reasonable and well-rounded answers without pigeonholing any topics and addressed the overall need for competence. Even better is how digestible the information was and how he boils down some complex scenarios to a very basic explanation.
I was confused on something, some people say when you get attact just run but this man say don't run, so i confused, which is true?
@@Riezmannzayd
He doesn't really mean "don't run"
He just hate those mindset, why? Because there's many everyday scenario when running isn't an optimal choices. If your mindset is "just run", you might automatically running a possible threat despite you have circumstances when running isn't optimal.
He still does recommend running tho, in the "use your instincts" section.
@@trirahmat5384 ahh i see.. so, when i need to run and when i need to fight? Thanks for the explanation bro, appreciate it.
@@Riezmannzayd yeah, if you can run, then do it. But sometimes you need to defend first either due to location, distance, or threat. If you’re backed into a spot with no obvious exit route past an attacker, you should definitely be prepared and competent at defending yourself. Likewise, if they’ve already grabbed you in some way, like by a wrist or shirt, you probably can’t just turn and run.
I was in a street fight outside of a bar where I worked, and I was really into Taekwondo at that time. I let the dude get back up like it was a sparring match instead of trying to punish him while he was down. It did not even occur to me to attack him while he was down. It wasn't pity; it was due to habit from training where attacking a downed opponent is taboo. Hitting him while he was down seemed like dirty fighting, and I was a lot more capable on my feet anyway. I later learned that he was wearing brass knuckles when he tried to discard it after the fight was over.
I totally get that mentally.
I don't know , but through my yrs of experiences, street fights is always dirty, that's why I always carry a small knife, just in case, n it kept me alive after all these night life yrs.
/facepalm told ws my main style originally but whomever trained you either didnt knownwyat they were doing or did you a major disservice by not training you fir the real world vs sparring/ contests etc
Tkd if used properly can be very effective but you cant learn it only with the mindset of sparring or those that learn it for movies only (I've worked with a bunch of them over the yrs and very few would last in a real fight despite "earning their bb" and using flashy moves for the camera only
A street fight is the real deal. If you get the advantage you have to use it. Don't risk your life to be fair and clean.
Haha are you Puerto Rican by chance?
It takes years to a martial arts and self-defense practitioner to understand all these knowledge that Mike was able to summarize in 16 min. Videos like this are extremely valuable!
Agree! Worth watching several times ;-)
Everything he said is very obvious..making it end in your favour is the thing to learn n master
@@carlodefalco7930 No, it's not. There are many myths in self-defense such as "don't kick in the head", "never take the fight to the ground", "don't strike with the fist to avoid injury", "all you need is a gun or knife to defend yourself", "to defend yourself you just need to use dirty techniques", "just run for your life", "never let the distance close" "repeating katas is excellent for self-defense", "sparring is not good training for self-defense", among many others. Many martial arts practitioners still believe in one or more of these myths. People who have never trained anything believe even more.
@@MarinhoRFilhothese r obv m8, for example when they say don't hit the head, in karate for example, because you're sparring, but on the streets nobody says don't hit the head, we used to learn techniques to hit the face and the head, but we didn't use them in sparring so the opponent doesn't get hurt, which usually in local sparring would be a friend or a mate.
This is actually a very educative intro into the world of Streetfighting. I've seen hundreds of videos about this kind of thing, but this is the first one with a very realistic approach. You rock, Jesse!
You rock too!!
I love how Jesse is always so humble and willing to learn even though he is an expert in combat himself!
I’m just a Karate Nerd 🥋🙏
We Love ❤️ you man!!! 🙋
@@KARATEbyJesse Are standing kimuras and inside leg trips standard karate techniques? Also a wrestling run-the-pipe motion when you had him in the improvised wrist-control single leg.
1 minutue with sensei segal makes him above us all!
The more you learn, you realize the less you know.
If you listen closely, he is teaching awareness at soo many levels, be that step ahead of the criminal without underestimating
This dude isn't just a good fighter, he's a good teacher
It takes a LOT of understanding to be able to express complex concepts with minimalist language
I would love to see this guy have a brainstorm session with the people who are doing fight manual revival/interpretation; stuff like Fiore or Meyer or Vadi. Because, as he said, 'violence is violence' and fight philosophy is universal
Icy Mike isn't too big on HEMA stuff. He doesn't really see it as relevant, considering most people don't fight with swords and bucklers anymore. I disagree, considering grappling and basic striking is the foundation of most Western systems involving weapons. But most HEMA clubs just nerd over swords and neglect wrestling/other aspects to begin with.
"minimalistic language"
Me: punch. face. HARD!
I imagine unarmed armizare will still be fairly relevant, but the dagger defense of the time likely wouldn't translate well to modern weapons
Somewhere here on the tube there's an interesting comparison of hema vs modern knife fighting. I think a big part seemed to be that people wore more clothes back then, and you really don't wanna kill anyone nowadays
I love how he got pinned and just laughed and went “yea we can both learn something from this see?”
I love this martial arts channels colab universe. Instead of trash talking or "competing" for viewers you guys got together and shared your knowledge and viewers with each other to everyone's benefit.
It’s like the TH-cam martial arts avengers
As someone who's had to defend himself from multiple, larger opponents inside my own building's stairs, I stand by the front kick. It's _literally_ a life saver.
damn, glad u okey
@@truthseeker2248he is dead, it happened 2 years ago
lol bruh
You lucky they didn’t catch your foot
What the heck, where do you live, Gotham?
TH-cam needs more uploads like this. Honest, no BS, no ego wank & reality based. That kind of training can help save lives. It can take many years to reach a high level of proficiency. But it may take many more to find a REALLY decent teacher. This ex cop is .
The sheer amount of honesty delivered with respect, humility, and no doubt experience; made this such a refreshingly educational and fascinating video. Thank you, both of you. Love your stuff Jesse, keep it up.
Wow, thank you! 🙏
The second you realize there's guys walking around that wouldn't last 1 round in a cage against Jon Jones but those same guys could end Jon Jone's life in 30 seconds on the street, if for no reason other than underestimation, surprise, concealed weapons, more opportune timing, or just straight up more killer instinct (of which Jones has plenty), your paradigm begins to shift and the way you look at combat changes forever
The hat throw, then the camera diversion, was excellent. The training scenarios, and the way they played out actually felt real. A lot of demonstrations usually have a "master" who is never beaten and does all the cool variations, but we have two masters here who are just trying things with each other, with no predictable outcome, demonstrating the chaos of street fights.
Never a master, sometimes a teacher, always a student ☺
very true. there's never a surefire technique to win every situation. there's a human element and you both have a say on what happens. you have to be able to flow and be aware of all of your options as advantages. this was a great video that I'm sure opened a lot of people's eyes.@@KARATEbyJesse
@@KARATEbyJesse humility is the spice of life
I learned Bruce Lee's side kick where you raise your hand in the air like you are reaching for something on the top of his head. Then you explode with the sidekick while he is diverted for a half second.
@@KARATEbyJesse beautifully said
This was great from the first minute.
I was really impressed by Jesse's ability, and Mike's lack of ego in the exchanges; some instructors would be obsessed with not losing in any exchange, but Mike's focus was on instructing.
Agreed.
Big respect for "I just didn't want to break his arm," knowing how to accurately assess a threat and show restraint.
Not sure if restraint or fear of guilt, it gets to us more often than not, gotta learn to assess risk and suppress mercy & guilt when necessary. I take it in a disarming philosophy (typical Japanese MA) I try to talk first, than move to physically disabling the guy, if he insists I don't refrain from the snaps. If I assess it's a life threat it's disarm at all costs, no risks to save the assailant
I really admire Jesse-s ability to constantly push himself outside if his comfort zone so he can keep learning. It is really humbling.
Learning is my comfort zone 😉
"No one's ever been taught this Jesse!" 🤣 This guy is great. Very engaging, knows his stuff, accepts what he doesn't know, keeps it very real. Also, he isn't massive, he is quite un assuming but you know he is deadly. Great guest to have. Would love to see more with him in the future.
@hard2hurt
We are aware icy mike isn't tall lmaoooo
As a bouncer who was only 5'10 I was always at a disadvantage with larger opponents. My most useful moves were the single and double leg takedown like pointed out in the video. Another beneficial one was the vovinam single arm takedown from the clinch. Vovinam is a good martial art for smaller people. I also trained Northern Shaolin and BJJ for a few years. This was an incredible display of real scenarios that are often not seen. 10/10. Both of you are amazing to see and putting thousands of bullshido gurus to shame with real life examples shown at an extremely high level. Just awesome. More people should see this.
I bet when you’re training on a bag, youre aiming for the face of a bloke thats a foot taller than you - but you never see tall blokes punching a bag nearly 2 feet below their face! I’m no expert by any means I’m 5’8 I had to defend myself once from a lanky 6’8 lamp post lookalike and I was just as shocked as he was when his blows all went over the top of my head or hit my arm because I grabbed his collar and choked him with my left before I threw any actual hands at him. Two punches in the mouth and he decided that was enough
In my experience, taller people tend to underestimate shorter people. I am about 5’9.5”, guys taller/bigger than me that I have had to “lay hands” on almost always underestimate me because of height.
How many of his friends leg stomp on you when you do the take down ? 😭
Did you try calling in an airstrike by an unmanned drone?
If you're talking about height... it actually the taller people that have a disadvantage against shorter people. If you had a disadvantage against taller people then it just skill issue and had nothing to do with being 5'10"
This was for me by far the best realistic explanation to understand the street fight situation. I practice karate, but never really gave a thought about how actually there is no rule or referee in a street fight. I literally subscribed after watching this episode. Thank you, love to watch and learn more.
The more I watch and listen to Mike, the more, even with some Muay Thai training, to just really try to not put myself in a precarious position...
People are crazy nowadays. Too many variables. Not worth it.
So true!
Oh man, you have no idea.
People can be extremely creative, vicious, and cruel in such scenarios. It's one thing to practice these things in a safe environment but in a real life scenario you're more likely to have tunnel vision due to high adrenaline, which causes you to have less awareness of your surroundings. The attacker may be armed with a knife or he may have friends who attack you from behind while you're busy fighting the guy in front of you. It all happens so fast. In these kind of situations you need to keep calm and collected, and be observant.
@@nudaveritas8195 Practicing helps with calmness usually actual fighters might be too calm in the streets instead of having a tunnel vision which is why practicing is great (sparring)
i think to run or walk away is the best option. you are in a very bad situation if they run after you..
I have never lost a street fight until recently. I grew up in a city that saw and encouraged young men of low wage working-class backgrounds to be tough. As a young boy, I often found myself in fights. Fortunately and unbeknownst to me, I was a good fighter. So, with that brief qualifier, I will get to my point, which is that I am recognising my growing limitations with increasing age. So for the first time in my life, I am looking more at avoidance and less at proving myself.
Good on this man for showing the truth of the matter. Love how Icy Mike has more than one weapon on him too.
You always have backups, for your backup weapon. I started laughing when he asked about weapons, because I knew what was coming.
I wonder if Icy Mike ever did ice?
I am an MMA fighter who has learned boxing, Muay Thai, and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. I've read many comics about different combat styles, and even got into a few fights back when I was in school. While I was learning these martial arts, I often pondered the differences between street fighting and the arena, how to win by any means necessary, and how to select the most effective fighting techniques for street combat. I believe this video aligns with many of my thoughts. It's highly valuable!
15 year cop that worked in Stockton, CA area. The greatest advice I was given and I heard in the video is LISTEN to your instinct. That Spidey Sense is invaluable!!! Other things are WEAPONS OF OPPORTUNITY and last thing, there is NO SHAME in sprinting your ass out of danger!! Create distance baby...hundreds of yards of it!!
Is Stockton about as rough as its repute (i'm an ex Silicon Valley techie)?
Aside from my own desire my parents put me in Karate as a kid because we were in a rough neighborhood. So I had to learn both at the same time. I have to say that Karate REALLY gave me a huge edge but you have to know how to apply it in real situations and not just sparring or tournaments. I'm glad that Mike brought up the difficulty of doing things while someone can pummel your face. That is my biggest peeve when I hear people talk about fighting that haven't actually had to fight for their own safety before. You also can't see jack except a fist when you're getting hit in the face. People imagine fights like they're lookin through a camera or something instead of what you'll actually be seeing in a fight.
Wrestling teaches you the same thing to an extent. Not really in highschool cause there's little hand fighting, but definitely in college. Dudes hands are all in your face specifically to cover your eyes for a takedown. Or smothering you stuffing any attempt you could make.
Any martial training gives an edge over anyone without it. If an untrained person has to think about what they are doing then the trained person has an edge, and if the untrained person is not thinking then they are throwing a right hook, which gives the trained person an edge.
Being able to think calmly while in a real fight is the biggest thing IMO for the average person to pick up regardless of whatever style of martial arts they’re learning.
Same thing with every and all spinning techniques. You don't expect a foot to come flying from "behind the person". Cause that's what it feels like, the spin hide the actual kick or punch and now you suddenly just have something flying towards your face in 390 miles per hour and no time to react.
So true , I was watching an action movie with a few mates and the fight scene where the baddies were taking turns to fight the goodie . We all looked at each other thinking the same thing, it would be nice if that happened in real street fights, which we all had been in a few times.
"Violence is violence" is a real truth. I learned martial arts as a kid and i rarely ended up in fights, and if i did i knew the rules of combat if thats what you want to call it. An example would be that if youre beat, you give up, which isnt something you know by nature. Also, you learn to carry yourself as someone as a person who know how to fight, which surprisingly leads to you getting into less fights.
Most people don't want to fight with people who know how to fight. It's not like hoodies are anime protagonists on mission to become best fighters by beating other best, or ancient death cult members who will try to attack you no matter what. They want to easily intimidate/mug/beat victim. If they see somebody looking like he knows how to fight and is trained they back off.
Martial arts skill is not a force field. And the end of the day intent beats skill. Martial arts rlly only work against low to mild intent and it depends how u use it.
@@thomasgyebi8717 well, you better intend on living as much as the person trying to hurt you intends on killing you.
@@JM.MEL_ maté that’s my point 😂 intent beats skill. If u know someone wants to kill u unless u ready to match there intent u need to avoid them
@@JM.MEL_ Train with intent to kill but have enough restraint not to.
I did kickboxing/combative for 14 years but now do Bjj (gi and no gi) for about 5-6 months now and this dude spoke more truth in this 16min video than any "self defense" or martial arts youtuber ive ever seen. Cops know whats up and ive worked with and trained with many who said the same thing this man did. I think im going to give @hard2hurt a follow and subscribe now, this is a no BS dude and i like that!
Here is a perfect example of what a great sensei taught me years ago. Do what you were trained to do, and you will win. If you try to fight the opponent’s fight you will lose.
Been training in martial arts for nearly 30 yrs. This is one of the most useful self defence vids I've seen. Reminiscent of Geoff Thompson material from the 90s.
I love this video. Mike brings up about 10 teaching lessons in such a short time. The biggest of all is practice and let go of the ego.
Mike's mouth and brain are equally big
And perhaps the hardest? :)
Idk, he seems to have quite the ego.
I've seen a lot of self defense content over the years. This video outperforms literally everything.
And by that I don't mean to say other content I've watched isn't equally valuable. There's a lot of good stuff out there teaching real street fighting information that shows what actually works and doesn't work. Hard-hitting facts.
But the amount of information in this video alone is just huge, and it's also truthful and correct, and very well taught. Respect.
You may not walk into a fight with a weapon. But the world CAN be your weapon if you use it right.
That was one of the best demonstrated and discussed practical application of self defense I have seen in a long time. No bravado, no ego, just straightforward wisdom. Great job.
I loved what he said about the "just run" thing, I've always thought about the same, like should I just run away from the attackers and leave behind my slower friends or family to the scenario alone? No way!
Running away greatly reduces the possibility of death and in a pure survival scenario that is objectively one of if not the best thing to do. I repeat: the 100 bucks in your wallet is not worth the 1000 dollars somebody's gotta for over for your funeral
@@dretchlord873 What about the 1000 dollars for your kid's funeral?
@dretchlord873 it's like you didn't read the comment before you replied
@@dretchlord873you'd be surprised how many people can't even run for their life.
@diarmuidosullivan7391, You toss your kid at them as a distraction, then you run.
what I like about Mike is just how honest he is. he may not know everything there is to know, but his sincerity is both refreshing & entertaining.
"The skill set for being cop or a criminal are the same. It just depends how you use it."
Man this guy dropped so much wisdom!
The result of experience!!
Best self-defense video I've seen in a long time. Mike's voluminous experience as an officer and his martial arts training has taught him well and for Jesse it's a matter of taking the sometimes rigid form of karate techniques (and his considerable athleticism and skill through years of repetitive practice) and using them intelligently by changing his mindset about how to use them. Great stuff guys!
Jesse is always humble, respectful, and eager to learn - the attitude of a true martial artist
Finally a self defense video that isn’t ridiculous.
right
"Your ability to throw that kick far outstrips the ability of any of these yoho's out here to defend a kick" - love this point. My sensei always tells us to remember more often that not if you get into a fight the other person has not learned how to properly throw a punch or a kick and we can use that against them.
I always dread the day when the guy opposite, to my surprise starts off with a tornado kick.
@dssaee, I always dread the day they break into Capoeira. Too happy and friendly for me to stay angry.
@@brawndothethirstmutilator9848 xD xD
If you call your coach sensei, you don’t know how to throw a punch either.
@@Spacey3000 lol
One of the best vids i’ve seen on this subject because this guy knows what he’s talking about … he’s not bragging about this and that, not trying to prove anything, he simply shares his experiences👍
I’m very happy to see someone sharing this kind of message and mentality because this isn’t revolutionary, it’s reality.
How humble that guy is and he even cares for not breaking some bodys arm since he has no knife... That is highly professional ❤🎉
This is probably the best video I have seen of either of you. Nicely done.
I have never had to defend myself from serious violence, so I don't teach self-defence nor claim to teach it. I only teach what I know.
If I had to define self-defence, I would say it is: "The use of intelligence, emotion and physics to overcome violence."
For me, the points Mike makes in this video are exactly that.
Video quality is insane. So dense, so well interviewed, the narrative is so well presented. Youre a brillant host!
The best fighter in a street setting can both effectively evade/block critical damage, but more importantly think outside the box. I have a black belt in karate with some mma training and I used to get myself in to situations where I needed to defend myself through unorthodox means. (young and dumb you might say)
You have to think like a wild animal, where everything and anything is a weapon to give you an advantage or provide a window of opportunity for you (or your opponent)... I once escaped being pinned against a wall in a wrist lock by managing to grab ahold of a broom with my free hand and jabbing at his face with it, once he dropped his weight and bent his knees to avoid my (pretty weak) but painful jabs with the broom handle, I promptly broke his controling position by donkey kicking him directly in his now unprotected nuts. He dropped like a sack of potatoes.
He learned one of this video's lessons the hard way: Don't go for holds unless the hold, by itself, will allow you to quickly neutralize your opponent... being painful isn't enough (I knew how to shift my hand to neutralize it's immediate effectiveness). Also, if at all possible, don't proritize conditional control techniques over swift and brutal action that you can easily abandon/disengage from at any point. If he hadn't pinned me against the wall with no way to end the fight swiftly/stop my aggression without wrestling to maintain control of my arm and keep me contained, I likely wouldn't have had the precious seconds to locate the broom and then use it to set up an effective counter attack.
I also learned a lesson that day, don't square up in a traditional stance in close quartets with someone becayse you don't know what they're going to do. I thought he would fight me the way I was trained to fight, but he was much bigger and heavier than me- he simply grabbed my lead hand (I had practically offered him) and put me in the arm bar
This guy understands violence as well as TH-cam comments
"I was a police officer" That explains a lot. From the weapons to the attitude to the new career.
He was a trainer. Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.
@@auntoneyofuntease6704 Sounds like he's just a powerless thug now.
@@auntoneyofuntease6704 well you see how short he is and how many weapons he's caring he's obviously someone he's been a crybaby his whole life and he's trying to make up for it he's probably a little bitch cops are always the biggest little bitches.
@@auntoneyofuntease6704 he was also part of a SWAT team .
@@auntoneyofuntease6704actually not exactly how that works at all maybe just maybe in promotional situations depending on dept but fto they usually pick the guys that can train the future guys usually
Watching Mike getting completely demolished again. 😂😂😂
What if they didnt know they were in an armbar?
Sure you controlled me quickly but what if something else had happened?
Oh man, I absolutely love these collabs. This FightTube community is amazing, from Jesse to Mike to Seth to Kevin and so on. We always get so much out of every video they do together and what's awesome is you can tell that they do, too.
Fantastic video. I love how a lot of what Mike touched on is that anyone trained extensively in a combat sport (martial art, wrestling, MMA) becomes intimately familiar with combat in the sport's context. Fighting within those rules, against opponents who understand that environment. Street fighting doesn't suddenly make those techniques invalid at all, but changes the environment and context adding so many other considerations, and if you are stuck with a narrow, sport specific mindset it will be a disadvantage.
This is good stuff. I've trained my whole life and spent 20 years in homeless hostels and on the streets and in other people's homes as a social worker and the reality is that people have such weird energy systems it's very unpredictable. I've had staff absolutely devastated because a client of theirs they had a good relationship with assaulted them unpredictability. One time I was in a house with an older fella with a brain injury who had killed someone once and it was all cool till he tried turning the TV off but he kept turning it back on and then he lost his shit and tried to stop me leaving and grabbing his knife (which was out of reach and I pushed past and ran for it). The point being, one of the reasons people get assaulted is that it always comes from a weird social space that you don't quite know how to react to. But I tell you what? You'll think about the ones you got wrong at least once a year for the rest of your life.
As a freshly graduated social worker who already experienced being held hostage by someone with a knife while delivering some medicine to him and having to wait for the police - yeah, you remember it allright 😂
Moral of the video:
Don't let conditioning yourself turn into limiting yourself.
Very interesting.
I love how you're all friends and do these regular collabs now. Really top-notch stuff!
This was a really great video - the self defence mentality is something that is talked about a lot (including by me to my students) but something about Mike's delivery really made me think about it more deeply than I [maybe ever] have. Thank you.
The level of collaboration between TH-cam martial artists is great; can't wait for season 2 of self defence championship.
Thanks for sharing!
Fantastic nuggets of wisdom, humility, martial arts and reality. Its such a lot of fun watching Mike & Jesse work through this together
Thank you, glad to hear!
This was a very valuable video, wow.
I am a Karate Black Belt and have practised Muay Thai for more than a decade but when it comes to street fight, I never did that and never faced any situation and what he told me here hits me hard because I have never trained to think like that.
Thanks!
"NO ONE HAS EVER BEEN TAUGHT THIS, JESSE!" - That was a gold moment.
hmm... it was like a single leg takedown and kotegaeshi together
Look up Tomiki Aikido Sumi Otoshi
@@NYTomiki I'll pass
One of the best videos around on the topic of self defense, i love how this guy explains everything.
This is one of the best videos I've seen on real-life self defense, Would love to see a follow up collab between you too in different locations and scenarios
Recently been binging a bunch of content like this and have started following you, Mike, Seth, and others…but this was so valuable to watch. Thanks for the info and insights
Awesome video. This guy's the real deal. Seen a street fight one guy against two idiots just looking to fight, he was just defending himself and prevent the two from surrounding him and he landed a perfect high head kick to one of the idiots, he was obviously well trained and a competitive fighter and the two idiots backed off pretty quick. I don't condone violence on the street but it was a thing of beauty.
This is the type of instruction I love. Practical application and not only the how, but more importantly the why. You two make a great teaching combo! Awesome questions and explainations.
Our pleasure! Glad it was helpful
This is one of the best shows on TH-cam hands down. Your ability to let others show you what their art/skill is about is excellent. I’m subscribed!
Thanks and welcome!
this video really shows me a new perspective after countless of videos where martial artists got defeated in streetfights. Thanks Jesse.
I'd definitely love to see more content geared towards self-defense! Maybe some videos on the Karate techniques/bunkai we already know from practicing the Art that would be the most useful and effective in self-defense scenarios, and how they can best be adapted to that realistic context!
Noted!
Totally agree 👍
I second this
One not technique but strike tool I used now and again when bouncing was Koken, I found it was often a surprise (like throwing a baseball cap)
The best self-defense is Miyagi do. Don't get into a situation where you need self-defense. Be alert for danger and avoid it. Yeah, I know, sometimes it's unavoidable.
One of your best videos Jesse. The keyword was definitely "Remember" . It's true that many times we forget how many options we have, overwhelmed by our emotions.
In a competition fight, we also can forget how many moves we have (too busy repeating our 3 best combos ..).
How do you manage to keep cool and remember it all?
So true. Granted it is great to have a few "go to" techniques in the back pocket. Your old faithful moves that you can hit 9/10 times and are almost a reflex. But especially when training it is good to try to expand and get used to throwing out some more odd moves.
I mean I am trying to incorporate the superman punch into my sparring repertoire, if only because noone expects a guy my size to go flying at them.
I think one of the keys is actually thinking when in a fight. Like if you just landed 2/3 decent hits on a person you will have a second to think about what you are up to. If you get into a stable position in a grapple you have a moment to consider your options. Not long, but some time.
Icy Mike has the best approach to self defense on the youtube. Practical, informed and realistic. He normally doesn't put all of this content in a single video and this makes this one of the best self defense videos out there.
Most people fold in true conflict. I always found in street fighting, the craziest guy wins. You can’t be afraid to throw that punch/kick/elbow/knee without hesitation. I will never wait for them to take the first shot. That doesn’t mean I sucker punch somebody, it means I’m aware and ready to go to blows in a split second. That’s the mindset.
Well done Jesse. I always appreciate your humility and open perspective shown to others. I also enjoyed Mike’s take on awareness outside the confines of a traditional controlled environment.
As a martial artist who has been in street fights with up to 11 people, mike is 100% right. You use what you know, adapt it to the situation and respond with as much violence as you need before getting away. The only real thing I would add is the first time you're in a street fight is always the worst because you think you are ready but rarely ever are anywhere near a state close to ready. Training for it is the most important thing if you want to stand a chance.
Eleven people is nothing. I was in a street fight with thirty-five guys. I had to use some crazy techniques, that you cant train for.
@@nfloz11please elaborate on how you beat 35 guys in a street fight with “untrainable” skills
@@zaiphu he sucked them off
@@nfloz11 Humbly, I think your confusing the terms "street fight" with "gangbang." It is believable that you were gangbanged by 35 guys and came out a winner 😬🏆. It is NOT believable that you were in a 30+ v. 1 STREET FIGHT and did anything but die. That being said, live your life girl. Slaaaaaay! 😂😂
@@nfloz11 35 is nothing. I was in a streetlight with 127 guys. I used techniques that have never been seen before and walked away unharmed. 72 of those guys lay dead and 21 with broken limbs.
A truly great video, recognizing the strengths of different ways of training, learning and applying technique. In my 47 years of martial arts training in Taekwondo, Japanese jujutsu and Kempo, I've always trained in schools that thought in exactly this way, probably because the instructors all had substantial real-life street experience in New York City (social workers in narcotics, cops, Department of Homeland Security). Every point Mike brought out was not only valid, but it's interesting to me that most martial arts schools -- traditional or combat sports -- don't think like that when training to fight.
By the way, I ended an attack on my from behind when I was a young black belt with a high side kick. I caught him right under the chin. High kicks can work, if you know how to kick and when to kick.
Great job, Jesse, and regards to Mike.
Great to see you two guys interact...two channels that I enjoy.
Was never a fan of Icy Mike but this video gave me mad respect for the dude! Definitely would like to see more martial arts incorporating street scenarios into their training
Thank you, Jesse. This was an amazing video. Aside from sharing real life experiences, I thought as a concept it reminded me of "Jet Kun Do" and Bruce Lee's final philosophy on "the absence of form" so to speak, where formal technique is only useful if you can apply it out of context, or in a purely improvisational manner. Speaks to presence of mind
*Jeet kune do .. the way of the intercepting first. Philosophy was to use no way as a way . Very similar to krav Maga concepts and highly effective .
I knew a guy years ago, with a massive bad attitude and short temper, who stabbed a guy in the chest because he asked him to turn his motorbike off. The other guy didn't even know he was in a fight until he was fighting for his life.
That story has always stuck with me and made me much more aware of how quickly these things can happen.
I love this! I'm not a fighter, so I didn't notice Jesse's mistakes but it makes so much sense that he didn't even know they were, he was trained in a disciplined fighting form with rules and fairness in mind, the other guy is literally teaching him how to forget about the rules, bridging the gap between an experienced martial artist and a strong aggressive person on the street whose only experiences are other dirty fights in the street with no rules except "survive"
eye opener... Thanks for doing this drill with someone who has gone through a lot in his career.
This is awesome stuff!! When training, I often find people get caught up in the transition and forget their options; striking while in the clinch or on the ground, etc. Using your environment against your opponent is a great way to make people not only pay better attention to their surroundings, but think about not only their options, but their opponent's potential options aswell.
Right on!
Wow, just love the guy! You can tell his skillset is high above the skillset of those self proclaimed defense specialists out there, especially the ones on TH-cam. Love this video! Thanks for making this video and sharing it with the world, @Jesse!
My absolute pleasure!
According to him, his skillset is exactly the same as criminals.
Another thing to remember, there are things around you. If you get into an altercation in a store, the objects on the shelves (and the shelves themselves) are in play.
Mike is so great at teaching. The audience won big time, seriously.
You guys should do a whole series about traditional stuff applied to street fight situations.
Help us to fill the gap between Martial Arts, Combat Sports and Self Defence!
Get Seth, Kevin, Mike, Rokas and let`s go!
This channel is so great. Jesse just has an honest, humble approach to combat knowledge and its really cool
I appreciate that! 🙏
helps in understanding the options one has in a streetfight you never would have thought of. spot on about the skills required to keep the fight from going to the ground. the way i see it, Jesse would be more than capable of keeping it that way and if it goes down, his distance transitions were evident.
I took a hit to the groin during a bar fight back when I was in the Army. I won the fight, but about 45 minutes later, I was in serious pain down there and realized I’d also sprained my thumb. Didn’t feel a thing during or right after the fight-it wasn’t until the adrenaline wore off that the pain kicked in. Just a heads-up, a low blow won’t do much if your opponent is fired up and running on adrenaline.
Hey Jesse, since you've fought so many different martial arts like Aikido, how about you try fighting Judo? Hope you give it a try! 😄
Challenge accepted
JUDO LETS GO
yeah, old school judo not the olympic stuff.
@@simonshusse doesn't matter anyway unless it's a two parter. it's usually a very shallow dive because it's a single video.
Kinda wanna see Wushu as well
It would be comedy gold to see Steven Seagal try to educate Mike. I can just hear Seagal now "Well your methods won't work because if you did that, I would just do this....". And 2 seconds later Seagal would be on the ground.
you seem a truly good person Jesse, so skillful but always willing to learn and do so with such good grace 🙂
You’re very kind 🙏
This is the kind of open conversations fighters need to have without ego or getting defensive. Well done
Let’s go, the ultimate collaborators
Glad to hear!!