You needed thosedrag radials man, warm them up, usually you don't want to warm up street tires, they get greasy. Lower the pressure, and soften the damping on the rear struts if you can. Maybe even lower the rebound on the front struts to allow the weight to transfer better. Might be good to raise the whole car up some so the rear has some travel to squat with.
alot of the traction issues are suspension related. Slicks obviously help but without suspension separation its just going to spin and spin. but this is what test and tunes are for!
Excited to see how the slicks do. I would recommend spinning and launching above the torque peak at first then dropping the launch rpm till you spin just a little bit off the line. Its better for the drivetrain to spin just a little than to dead hook or bog, although a dead hook certainly feels awesome. If you watch my Scion tc run, you can hear the slicks spin then hook up. Good luck!
I'm currently helping my friend throw in his Texas speed LSX in his miata. We're on wiring right now and mocking up the turbo kit as well. Big single, t56, on E85. He's shooting for 600-700whp once we get it all done. It's on slicks as well when he had a big turbo built 1.8.
Definitely still an awesome video. Would've been even more awesome if you had the grip, but still really nice video. I'll definitely be looking forward to the runs you'll get with the slicks. You and that car really rock.🤘🤘
Set your suspension up right those hoosier dr2's will do the job. Those are what I run. I run a little positive camber at rest and tire pressure about 13-14 psi plus or minus a bit as needed. Once you make some passes you can look at the pattern on the tires to see what you need to adjust. You can also add some weight if needed to the most rearward part of the trunk or make a mount for weight bars behind your rear bumper cover that you can access from underneath.. Uphill battle drag racing a manual car though.
its not bad that you're spinning. worst decision i made was to test some radials out at 330hp and i broke 2nd gear. sometimes spinning does save parts :)
I still challenge you and will put you in my guest room for a few days. I have to say, at Sacramento I was spinning every gear, not quite as bad. You did an excellent job keeping it pointed in the right direction! To do a proper burnout without a line lock. I grab my brake pedal with my left foot just after the tires are spinning. Just enough pressure to keep the car from moving sideways. It takes a little practice but you'll get the hang of it.
You didn’t mention your tire pressures which probably can hurt really bad with spinning. Also, the height of the car allows for some mass transfer (or not) so I am pretty there is traction to be gained in the stance of your car. Anyway, always a pleasure to watch your videos and appreciate your state of mind (compete and analyze) 😅
Tires that are good for the canyons are not necessarily good for the dragstrip. With the wrong tires, even the best drag setup is not going to be able to put the power down.
You need 2 extra 10 wide wheels, so you can put your slicks on them, drive to the strip on the AR1s, then swap to your slicks at the strip, then back to AR1s after doing your runs. That way you can bust mustangs both on the strip and on the street on the way back home!
With this amount of power, you need a wing to push that rear down aswell. Its a bit of drag yes but this car is so light with this amount of power... so you might aswell
Man this may show how long I’ve been with you but this reminds me LONG time ago you went against a yellow srt8 challenger and spanked it! Ready for the next!
Can't win them all Greg, at least you made it out & were able to put runs in for hours without real issues. 100% agree with the rationale at midnight, you are completely in the right here sir.
Unfortunately at a no prep surface AWD is king. Lower tyre pressures can help but if you dont have means to inflate after running this isnt helpful. Perhaps a stickier tyre for the rear and a real good burnout.
You're da-man!!! I gotta say though... My fear is that you're going to break the diff with those new tires. Sometimes tire slip saves mechanical things... Fingers crossed all goes well and you hit some new best times though!
The big thing is you have roll in the water pit, and go f3ft foward the heat up the tires. Right not you are running with wet tires. I used to do this with my slicks and then got my 60' down from 2.1 to 1.7. Stock motor 14psi btw ran low 8 in the 1/8 mile
I'm currently doing a forged build, will be going for somewhere between 350 - 400bhp. Do you run any sort of retro fitted traction control or do you just use good throttle managment? I'm currently using a ME442 ecu so will probably be sticking to that for now, although the EMU ecu's have a cut traction function of some sort that may be a better option.
What I've done since this video is set up my boost by gear MUCH better. I had a 14psi spring in the wastegate which was way too much. I've also set up boost by TPS, so even in the high gears, light throttle will only produce low boost. On 350whp+ Miatas, it's essential for drivability. With a heavy spring and no boost by TPS, this engine hits full boost at only 25-30% throttle in the midrange RPM. Sounds cool on paper, but when I apply 30% throttle, I want 30% power But to answer your question, no traction control because I haven't put in front wheel speed sensors, and this car has none from factory.
@@TheCarPassionChannel Ahh okay. I've got mine set up currently with boost by TPS so I will have a look into adding boost by gear before the new engine goes in then instead of a retro fitted traction setup. Thanks.
Hellz yeah bro , deff looking forward to see what it do on slicks ..... I hope I can take my lil toy out on the next test n tune night near me, so I wish you the best on yours n hope for the same lol peace and love brotha keep it rad stay safe and build on l8z
Sounds like you're using your 2 step, but why not setup traction control? Do you have ABS factory? If so you can use the sensors for traction control works really well on my PNP ms3 pro.
This hurts to watch. Not because of Greg, who was doing fine with what he's got, but knowing that this car would eat most of the other cars for lunch if it could hook. Excited to see what slick runs will look like!
I would be really interested to see your results with various size restrictor plates in the intake. I feel like you would be the perfect person to test something like that.
Proper boost by gear essentially achieves the same thing, which I have already set up for the next time out 🙂 I can now have anywhere from 200-500hp in any gear and it's adjustable on the fly. Huge improvement in drivability
Not really , the first 330 ft kinda sets the mood for the rest of the run. Every tenth at start is worth 2 tenths on the big end. 90mph in the 8th is probably high 7, low 8 in the 8th if he can get that 60ft down to something respectable.
Really enjoying all your vids. Next time disconnect sway bar end links. Set your rear shocks to the softest setting and front to the stiffest. Let some air out of the rears.
Don’t feel bad about it. All you probably need is slightly better tires. On e you get the perfect tire combo, this puppy is going to hurt some feelings for real. I even think in a 1/4 Mile, things would had been definitely different.
As long as you learned something and had fun that’s all that matters. You car is set up for the road not track. If you got a track guy set up your cars suspension wow!
"I came out here to hurt feelings! The only feelings getting hurt are my own." I laughed so much at this
Comment of the year.
Sick runs on the street tires! I’ll be here for the slick runs! 🔥
Remembering this comment for when the axle decides to be snappy from slicks
Slicks will cushion the launch. It’s radials and wheel hop you need to be careful with
You needed thosedrag radials man, warm them up, usually you don't want to warm up street tires, they get greasy. Lower the pressure, and soften the damping on the rear struts if you can. Maybe even lower the rebound on the front struts to allow the weight to transfer better. Might be good to raise the whole car up some so the rear has some travel to squat with.
alot of the traction issues are suspension related. Slicks obviously help but without suspension separation its just going to spin and spin. but this is what test and tunes are for!
I'm surprised those didn't get ordered in the staging lanes. Keep up the good work!
Excited to see how the slicks do. I would recommend spinning and launching above the torque peak at first then dropping the launch rpm till you spin just a little bit off the line. Its better for the drivetrain to spin just a little than to dead hook or bog, although a dead hook certainly feels awesome. If you watch my Scion tc run, you can hear the slicks spin then hook up. Good luck!
Nice! Can’t wait to see it with the drag radials!
A simple line lock and smoke/clean them lovely slicks off and roll to the line..... Ahhh lush.... Nice vid Greg 👍
I'm currently helping my friend throw in his Texas speed LSX in his miata. We're on wiring right now and mocking up the turbo kit as well. Big single, t56, on E85. He's shooting for 600-700whp once we get it all done. It's on slicks as well when he had a big turbo built 1.8.
Definitely still an awesome video. Would've been even more awesome if you had the grip, but still really nice video. I'll definitely be looking forward to the runs you'll get with the slicks. You and that car really rock.🤘🤘
Set your suspension up right those hoosier dr2's will do the job. Those are what I run. I run a little positive camber at rest and tire pressure about 13-14 psi plus or minus a bit as needed. Once you make some passes you can look at the pattern on the tires to see what you need to adjust. You can also add some weight if needed to the most rearward part of the trunk or make a mount for weight bars behind your rear bumper cover that you can access from underneath.. Uphill battle drag racing a manual car though.
Oh man, there's when electronic traction control pays off, Sick runs!
its not bad that you're spinning. worst decision i made was to test some radials out at 330hp and i broke 2nd gear. sometimes spinning does save parts :)
I still challenge you and will put you in my guest room for a few days. I have to say, at Sacramento I was spinning every gear, not quite as bad. You did an excellent job keeping it pointed in the right direction! To do a proper burnout without a line lock. I grab my brake pedal with my left foot just after the tires are spinning. Just enough pressure to keep the car from moving sideways. It takes a little practice but you'll get the hang of it.
You didn’t mention your tire pressures which probably can hurt really bad with spinning.
Also, the height of the car allows for some mass transfer (or not) so I am pretty there is traction to be gained in the stance of your car.
Anyway, always a pleasure to watch your videos and appreciate your state of mind (compete and analyze) 😅
Came to comments to write exactly that. Pressures, suspension tuning...
Tires that are good for the canyons are not necessarily good for the dragstrip. With the wrong tires, even the best drag setup is not going to be able to put the power down.
Dude I watched your videos a long long time ago I'm happy to see you are still passionate
Mo grip babeh. Keith Tanner said a really stiff rear sway bar solved his wheel hop issues. I'd be interested to see if it solves yours as well.
Sweet! Hey Greg, did you hear about the Megasquirt digital dash coming out? It's styled in the image of the Holley EFI unit. It looks sweet bro💪
Midnight post event is the PERFECT time to solve problems with a credit card! Looking forward to seeing the results with slicks. Sticky icky oo oooo!
Immediately dropped what I was doing to watch a new Craigg Jeters upload!!!
Same same. 😂😂
Yessss! Greg bringing out the slicks!! Make that miata stick!
You need 2 extra 10 wide wheels, so you can put your slicks on them, drive to the strip on the AR1s, then swap to your slicks at the strip, then back to AR1s after doing your runs. That way you can bust mustangs both on the strip and on the street on the way back home!
anyways for street tires and little traction it was a good showing
I did not expect a motocross helmet on that first talking bit in car 😂😂😂 amazing video!
What tire pressure were you running on the track? Did you soften up the rear suspension?
Need this beast on a quarter mile! That way you can rip in 4th
Duddee, not the ending I expected, smiled ear to ear to see those tires 😂 Thought you may call it quits on the drag stuff at first
Those late night drag radials really do hit different
The Miata is made for zooming, not wrooming 😉 Time to hit those turns and show some domestic bros who's boss!
thats what all slow car owners say
@@roachwerks3043 Well, I have a near stock NB so. Yeah. Still true though 😄
Why can't it do both?
@@roachwerks3043 and this is what all the boring car owners say
@@Yaboybash small brain comment
I'm not sure but are you using the 2-step, hand brake and slipping the clutch at staging?
Loved listening to the noises
My guy so mad he bought new tires! Lol all love
With this amount of power, you need a wing to push that rear down aswell. Its a bit of drag yes but this car is so light with this amount of power... so you might aswell
Bias ply slicks will make a night and day difference, good luck!!
Let's go! Glad you're back on the track.
Hype to see that thing on radials.
LOOK HOW THEY MASSACRED MY BOY
Man this may show how long I’ve been with you but this reminds me LONG time ago you went against a yellow srt8 challenger and spanked it! Ready for the next!
Can't win them all Greg, at least you made it out & were able to put runs in for hours without real issues.
100% agree with the rationale at midnight, you are completely in the right here sir.
hi greg what do you think of the ebay t25 tubilar 1.6 manifold is it good? or should i go for the cast t3 for a budget 1.6 build?
Buy a cast manifold
Cool you took the route that went through Mexico on the way home
What differential are you running Greg?
A bias slick may be a little more forgiving than a radial if prep continues to be crap. Boost by gear and a 2step can help too.
Did you soften the shock rebound? So it squats more/more weight transfer. Front and rear.
at least you SMOKED that mustang on the street!
With great power there is great drag slick behind it. Lol you did what you could that's how it be sometime love the content.
Hooooooosier's!!!! I'm looking forward to this!!!
Great vid, think you should reconsider the drag radials though - will live longer on a slick... I guess you prob can't drive it there then though, eh?
Drop the pressure of the rear tires any? That would help it hook. Also line lock on the front when you’re heating the tires
That’s our boi right there forgot the slicks))
AWESOME! DRAG SLICKS!!!!
What coilovers you running again?
Awesome Vid!
Unfortunately at a no prep surface AWD is king.
Lower tyre pressures can help but if you dont have means to inflate after running this isnt helpful.
Perhaps a stickier tyre for the rear and a real good burnout.
You're da-man!!! I gotta say though... My fear is that you're going to break the diff with those new tires. Sometimes tire slip saves mechanical things... Fingers crossed all goes well and you hit some new best times though!
Hooking is better than hopping 😅
@@TheCarPassionChannel Agreed, for sure!
What diff are you punishing with those drag launches? Is that still a miata torsen2 unit?
IIRC, his rear diff is out of a Cadillac CTS. It can handle the torque. A stock Miata Torsen diff has no chance.
AR-1s are slippery when cold... they are track tires. Would be nice to see a difference with drag tyres.
The big thing is you have roll in the water pit, and go f3ft foward the heat up the tires. Right not you are running with wet tires. I used to do this with my slicks and then got my 60' down from 2.1 to 1.7.
Stock motor 14psi btw ran low 8 in the 1/8 mile
I'm currently doing a forged build, will be going for somewhere between 350 - 400bhp. Do you run any sort of retro fitted traction control or do you just use good throttle managment? I'm currently using a ME442 ecu so will probably be sticking to that for now, although the EMU ecu's have a cut traction function of some sort that may be a better option.
What I've done since this video is set up my boost by gear MUCH better. I had a 14psi spring in the wastegate which was way too much. I've also set up boost by TPS, so even in the high gears, light throttle will only produce low boost. On 350whp+ Miatas, it's essential for drivability. With a heavy spring and no boost by TPS, this engine hits full boost at only 25-30% throttle in the midrange RPM. Sounds cool on paper, but when I apply 30% throttle, I want 30% power
But to answer your question, no traction control because I haven't put in front wheel speed sensors, and this car has none from factory.
@@TheCarPassionChannel Ahh okay. I've got mine set up currently with boost by TPS so I will have a look into adding boost by gear before the new engine goes in then instead of a retro fitted traction setup.
Thanks.
At least 1 feeling hurt during drive home 😂
Better luck next time Jeb Beepers
You should try to get on this vs that with hoonigan.
Certified epic sauce 😎
Maybe throw factory springs back in the rear? Soften it up? Definitely don't know what I'm talking about, just a thought.
🤣 love it ,, straight on line for tyres 🤣🤣🤣,, put stock fronts on as well ,, makes a difference from the wide boys 😉
You’re about to find the weak point of your drivetrain sun those radials. I’m here for it.
Another trick is to shift early cant spin when you are not in boost
Is it possible for you to install race logic traction control?
Time for that need for speed underground wing
We're ready for this
IPG has some sick omf beadlocks on lenso 13x8 wheels...
I'll be waiting for the drag racing with slicks
You will do so much better with your new tyres for sure 👍👍👍
Ordered a set of Hoosiers bro. Got some Hoosiers for the track day bro.
The one time the Miata's lightness is a disadvantage. Need to fill the trunk with lead! /s
Dang dude what tire pressure were you at??
Should've dropped down to like 20psi hahaha
Can't wait to see the rerun with the drag radials!!
You never mentioned tire pressure, or is that not an option in this event?
Hellz yeah bro , deff looking forward to see what it do on slicks ..... I hope I can take my lil toy out on the next test n tune night near me, so I wish you the best on yours n hope for the same lol peace and love brotha keep it rad stay safe and build on l8z
Sounds like you're using your 2 step, but why not setup traction control? Do you have ABS factory? If so you can use the sensors for traction control works really well on my PNP ms3 pro.
No ABS, that's why I haven't bothered to set it up yet
Can you launch from no rev low rpm or can you launch from 2nd
Need that zero camber tune my boi. Sometimes -1 and 0 is difference between spinning in 3rd and hooking in 2nd
Yeah I just had it aligned yesterday and there's going to be some good improvement based on that alone. Alignment was sus 😂
This hurts to watch. Not because of Greg, who was doing fine with what he's got, but knowing that this car would eat most of the other cars for lunch if it could hook. Excited to see what slick runs will look like!
I would be really interested to see your results with various size restrictor plates in the intake. I feel like you would be the perfect person to test something like that.
Proper boost by gear essentially achieves the same thing, which I have already set up for the next time out 🙂 I can now have anywhere from 200-500hp in any gear and it's adjustable on the fly. Huge improvement in drivability
You'd kill it on a full 1/4 mile track!!
Not really , the first 330 ft kinda sets the mood for the rest of the run. Every tenth at start is worth 2 tenths on the big end. 90mph in the 8th is probably high 7, low 8 in the 8th if he can get that 60ft down to something respectable.
Are you still on the nankang ar1s ? if so what size
Yes and 245/40R15
Really enjoying all your vids. Next time disconnect sway bar end links. Set your rear shocks to the softest setting and front to the stiffest. Let some air out of the rears.
I guess I'll stay alive for a few more weeks. Please hurry! You have the slicks. Just go this weekend.
I’m here dad
Greg it would be awesome to see a series of you killing it at autocross/track. Maybe with accompanying tips for being a better driver.
I would love to get back out there man, so much fun. I did it for several years pretty consistently so hopefully I still got it 😅
@@TheCarPassionChannel you could even do it from the point of view of taking someone as a novice and improving their times.
Hey just started the video but also thinking maybe you could air down the rears 🤷♂️ thanks Miata God.
Enjoy the drag racing but is there any autocross in the future?
Probably but won't do a video, nobody watches them unfortunately
Exactly, get traction :)
Don’t feel bad about it. All you probably need is slightly better tires. On e you get the perfect tire combo, this puppy is going to hurt some feelings for real. I even think in a 1/4 Mile, things would had been definitely different.
yessss
Lower tire pressure and start in second. I didn't hear you mention either.
I ran 8.5 with my miata. 205s, 280hp, 2.2 60ft. With the shift to 4th. I hate 6speed with 4.10 gear.
As long as you learned something and had fun that’s all that matters. You car is set up for the road not track. If you got a track guy set up your cars suspension wow!
seems like you need to also upgrade the rear end bushings or suspension. seems like you are struggling with wheel hop when you are losing traction
Dude is running mid 8's and beating himself up lmao
Do you need a hug? I think Kregs needs a hug!