It's a good thing they couldn't start this Husqvarna chainsaw
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Thanks for watching. This chainsaw hadn't been used for over a year but the owner couldn't get it to start. Luckily they didn't get it to start because they forgot to put oil in the gas. As for the reason why it didn't start it was user error.
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Thank you. Helps a lot. I am fixing to try out a used Huqsvarna 235 x-torq and this gave me the exact pointers I needed to know how to crank! Good, clear photography and verbal instructions!!!
Thank you C Hance
Anyone else see how happy the saw was having a smart handler😁
My Grandfather has had his Husqvarna saw since 2005, that really shows the quality of these machines
you are right about that.
Don't think I've ever put gas only in a 2 stroke, but I did once fill the fuel tank of my Husky chain saw with bar oil by mistake! Luckily, I realized it when I went to fill the oiler with fuel mix and was able to drain the bar oil completely before trying to start it.
Also, I've had good luck using fuel stabilizer in my gas/gas mix so that I don't have to drain the tank each time I use a machine.
Great videos - really enjoy watching them. Thanks!
Thank you i appreciate the comment
Your not the only one lol just done this yesterday. Was half way up and relized it was the wrong tank. What I done was empty it out and put s tad 2 stroke in to dilute the chain oil, mixed it around a bit and poured it out. Runs fine with no problems
Good straight advice. Thanks for sharing.
No problem George W
Another well produced IHG educational video!
Also a very lucky new saw owner.
I have to keep (2) fuel cans handy since I actually have (2) 4-stroke chainsaws in my collection. YES, USE CAUTION and confirm when fueling your 2-stroke saws. Also, if possible, only use Non-Ethanol Fuel. Ethanol is hydroscopic.(absorbs moisture)
*No I haven't made the fatal saw mistake and hope it never happens.
thank you very much for the compliment
had a neighbour that needed help starting their 2 stroke weed wacker(for the second time in 2 years). right away i seen that the gas was dark, they though 50-1 meant 50-50. dumped the gas/oil into a margarine container and showed them the difference in color of proper 50-1 also told them to use 91octane
nice of you to help them.
I'm old enough to remember when Lawn Boys were 2 cycles so my 2 cycle can has a big 2 on it in green paint. Hard to mix up the cans like that.
it happens more often than you think.
Great job!
Thank you for the comment I appreciate it
Seems like a good saw
oh yes its a great saw for the price.
I've never used straight gas in lieu of a mix or personally know anyone who has. My wife, wanting to be helpful and not wanting to bother me, used mix in a 4 stroke lawn tractor -- 16:1 mix. Fortunately, there was enough fuel already in the tank to dilute the oil to just poor running for a while. I let her know that was the least of possible issues in that there's quite a checklist prior to machinery usage.
She meant well. Fortunately it didn't damage anything
Doubt it would hurt it, my rototiller has 2 different oil drain plugs on it, and 1 oil check plug and 1 filler plug by accident i filled it all the way to the top and started it, its a 4 stroke 8.8hp but I had a 80- foot high white cloud for about 3 minutes, must have been at least an extra half a litre or more in there, never hurt it one bit and ran just like new.
I’d rather have her put pre mixed gas in everything than only put straight gas in everything. Lol at least 2 stroke fuel will only make a four stroke smoke for a bit
Good work 👍👍👍👍
Thank you
A simple video of how to mix two stroke fuel would be nice. My neighbour said his hedge trimmer was running rough, it sure was. There was oil pouring out of the exhaust and covering all the engine, and the smoke was fantastic. He was using what I guess was 10 to 1 oil mix, as he had no calibrated measure. I put some 50:1 into it and it cleared up the smoking in about 5 minutes. I just mix 20cc of synthetic oil to every litre that goes into my fuel can. ( 5 litres full = 100cc of oil.) . . . . . . . .
you are absolutely right about the mixtures. I think I might have to incorporate that into every video. It would be a 20 to 30 second cut scene. Thanks for the comment.
The simplest way is to buy the small bottles of 2 stroke oil. Dump the bottle into an empty gas can, then pump in the amount of fuel listed on the bottle to achieve the mixture you want.
I bought two 50:1 quarts from walmart and 2.1 gallon 50:1 metal jug from TSC and use the jug to fill the quarts and now mix my own fuel using them
very nice way of doing it.
0:56 you saved this saw.
Yes you're right I did
I used a Slovene-made chainsaw model Iskra and after 30 years of hard work, it was time to buy a new tool and change brand as Iskra stopped producing chainsaws and start selling made in China under their Brand (I am buying only made in Europe products).
I was advised that Husquarna is "the best" so I bought it, as I need the chainsaw now only a few times a year but then intensively a model 135 (~300€). I was working only about 4 hours continuously at the first use (I used to work with Iskra 10 hours a day...) and the chainsaw suddenly stopped working. It was with the proper precise 2% (exact) fresh mixture (Iskra was e.g. was working no matter what fuel was inside literary, just to be "oily"... even a one-year-old mixture) and the chain was oiled with the always fulled tank.
The official Husquarna service said that I overheated the chainsaw as it was not meant to work so long and that 2% is true official but "everybody knows that must be more oil than 2% (???) ... 4 hours, that is a joke...right?) and that due to the too-long operation the ventils and the motor started to wabble so it doesn't work. O.k. I read the manual but there was no warning about the time I should work and there was no sensor to warn me to stop... and I decided to repair the chainsaw... the repair cost more than two made in china Iskaras... btw... so I went to my property to do some woodwork and after two hours of continuous work the Husquarna stopped to work again... right from the service again and same "you overheated the tool" - not to meant to work so long...
My conclusion is that Husquarna "sucks" - it is too "delicate".
I bought than Iskra (Made in China) for 70€... and guess... the machine works... I did two days of intensive work, about 8 intensive hours daily. Husquarna seems that is for the "urban pussies" and overhyped brand. I have a tool to work with it not bothering to repair it constantly.
thank you for the information, I appreciate your time and effort.
A neighbor's kids added straight gasoline and the two cycle motor on the weed whacker ran three minutes before it seized and scuffef the piston.
That's a shame. But accidents happen sometimes
Hi, just wondering if you could help, I have Husqvarna 236 chainsaw, I know all the mixture screws have been messed with from the previous owner, is there away to start from scratch to reset the carb, like screwing them all the way in, and then how many turns back out to reset them as close has possible till it needs fine tuning, Regards
I do not know what the default setting are for that one. Personally, I would just order a new carb, and when It comes in, find out what their setting are and what you do, with that new carb is up to you.
Wow!
Thank you for the comment I appreciate it
I've just been given a hedge cutter, they said it has no spark but it has so I gave it fuel but not one cough, checked compression 20 PSI !! I've put ATF in the cylinder for a few days but not holding any hope. I have more to test that feel too easy to pull, what's the lowest compression you would consider a usable engine, 2 stoke and 4 stroke?
Probably ~45 psi and that if it even starts.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Thanks!
@@MrSHAUNE55 no problem
I never ran pure petrol in a 2 stroke. But I have once run a brush cutter that takes a 2-50 ratio on a 1-50 ratio and ended up buying a new one at the end.
wow that was a hard lesson
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Ya it was but now I know that if you have a cheap Chines engine run a 2-50 ratio
I only make 2-cycle fuel in a different size can when needed. This forces the context so you don't confuse fuel cans.
You and me both.
I have a 5L 2 stroke can and a 10L 4 stroke one
I use clear fuel can for 4 stroke red can for 2 stroke and larger black can for diesel
That's a really good method
When I'm not shure which canister have two stroke gas mixture in it i always cut plastic bottle in half or use some kind of white cup and then i poure a little bit of gas to check is it mixed or straight gas. Better check than having a problem.
that is a fantastic idea. Thank you I appreciate it.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE thank you for awesome content, wish you luckand keep up your good work. I really enjoy watching your videos
@@edberkarahmet3135 Thank you Edber Karahmet.
Wow. They were very fortunate.
that's what I was thinking too.
i put bar oil in once! didnt start hahahaha
i use my 2 cycle aka 2 stroke fuel in the ones made for my engines that are made for the use for example 2 strokes and even 4 strokes
That makes sense
Not a good idea as the oil in fuel will make a four stroke engine run lean as the oil takes up the space of petrol making the mixture lean. I E hole in piston time.
@@ludo9234 i think you misread the comment mate
On a jobsite running up river on jet drive outboards. New employee fills up fuel tank straight gas. Made it 100 yards upriver and engine skuffed a couple pistons on a 4 cylinder jet drive 40 HP Mercury outboard. Boss not happy
Dang that's really a shame
Been running two-stroke engines (dirt bikes, outboards, etc.) since the late sixties. Never have forgotten to premix. Too anal, I suppose, about oil brands and mix ratios.
I completely understand the feeling
Never loan your power equipment to other people. You may not get it back in the same condition. Especially if they did not bother to mix 2 cycle fuel correctly.
You are absolutely correct about that
Good advice.
Or you just might not get it back
I’ve had some one put straight gas in the tank. Or today I had someone put straight engine oil in the tank lucky I put fresh mixed fuel in it and got it burned out of the engine.
Nice work. Thanks for the comment
These type of people don't need 2 cycle equipment if they dont know to use mixed fuel
You have a point
I'm the dude who puts better gas in the small engines than the vehicles. Can't say I've ever just put straight gas, though. 🤷♂
I hear that.
You need to compression-check the saw with the throttle wide open and keep pulling until the indicator stops increasing. 75 Psi? that saw shouldn't be running. As a general rule, you need 100 psi for the saw to idle and run. Even then, they won't perform that well. My guess is that saw has more than 75 psi. Check it again with the throttle wide open. If it still reads 75, I'd be looking for another compression tester. Try actually cutting wood with it to see if it will perform.
You are absolutely correct
I have a 460 husky it will start but would run unless I keep my finger on the trigger what's wrong ? Thanks.
It sounds like a carb carburetor problem. I would try replacing the carb
There is probably an idle screw on the carburator, you could try fiddling around with that.
I have this saw. And sometimes the on off switch won't go all the way up and won't start
You can either try to clean it or replace it.
You must pull the choke lever hard enough to make the red lever move up.
I have never ever in my life "accidentally" put straight gas in my 2 cycle!!! I was taught from a very young age what take mixed fuel and what takes regular fuel. Plus it usually says on the machine the mix ratio. It honestly blows my mind the amount of people that do this. In my opinion if you cant remember or don't know that 2 cycles take a mix you shouldn't own and operate said machines.. I just got done watching your video on the old Poulan micro chain saw. That's a shame what happened to that saw.
I've seen it happen on several occasions,
I have different pour spouts on my 2 cycle
that makes it easier. thanks for the comment I appreciate it
Yes it does. No problem love the videos
@@brianbaird3 thank you
Yes I just had to buy a new chainsaw after accidentally running on petrol without 2s oil . Engine got hot and stopped running after a few minutes then relished my mistake replaced the fuel the engine
Didn’t Seize still felt like compression but just wouldn’t fires up again . Must of scored the cylinder to much .
that is my guess as well. Do you think you might remove the muffler to see how bad it is?
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE no it was running fine before so only thing it could be , cost more to try and repair a budget-range JCB cs38 chainsaw than replacing it .
@@marksmith8663 gotcha.
I pull out the choke and it does not stay out . Goes back in every time. How do you fix that?
The choke mechanism is part of the carb. Take of the top cover so you can see it. Then pull on the choke lever and see why it's not catching on the side of the carb. Of its a problem with something on the carb, you'll have to replace it
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I had top off 2 times but I did not know were to look on side of carb. I was looking for a notch on choke lever . I will look on side of carb now . Thank you for getting back to me on info..
@@frankletizia7835 no problem
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE It toke awhile I fig out what happen . I have 120 mark II . If you turn the Idle screw to far in the choke will not stay out . But lever is on the opposite of idle screw . I believe that area you must have meant. After you showed me adjustments got to run . Did not run at all the saw hardly used . Thanks again.
@@frankletizia7835 no problem
No,U haven't not put 2 stroke oil into 2 stroke powered equipment by mistake,from what Is was told no one can flood the engine by pressing the primer bulb too many times unless maybe if it's a Briggs & Stratton type where fuel is sprayed directly into the intake valve tube, otherwise,the excess amounts of fuel just gets returned to the fuel tank !
Thank you Russell Booth for the comment I appreciate it
I've never used a 50:1 mixer, I use 16:1 ratio on most,2 cycle engines, haven't burnt an engine yet.
Nice thanks for the comment I appreciate it
@David Kloza you mean 50's?
Too much oil... Dude, mix at 40:1 and it's enough.
A 16:1 mix ratio is not only way too much oil, but it will cause the engine to run leaner than normal. Modern two-stroke oil can provide adequate lubrication at 50:1 ratios.
Best practices says: Always use the ratio recommended by the owner's manual!!!!!
My brother once did buy a gallon clear fuel for our dad. Two saws broke Down
thank you for sharing
Unfortunately I did and even thou I know a great small engine mechanic I don’t think he could of helped it out 🤦🏻♂️.
Sometimes it happens.
Only 70 psi?! My all 2 stroke equipment have over 150 psi on cold engine.
I do believe my gauge is off. I have recently bought a new one
150 psi is incredibly high for a general-use two stroke. That would be the max you'd find on even a VERY high-performance two-stroke.
@@G31mR yes I thought it was high too.
@@G31mR So maybe my device is off the mark. Who knows.
Yep. I’ve done this. Killed a weed eater after one use.
It happens sometimes
That's not necessarily straight gas. I've mixed fuel and 2 weeks later it looked like that.
Really? What kind of oil do you use?
Stihl Synthetic. It was Quick Trip non ethanol gas as well. I've even put stabil in it and it's looked like that after a couple of months. I've switched to premix unless I know I'm going to use fresh mix.
I don't use a saw that often. But I bought a new Stihl 170 last year and had 2 week old gas that I had mixed with Stihl Synthetic and it wasn't running right. Poured it out and it looked like that. Put fresh mix and it ran fine.
Thanks for replying. Fuel just seems to be crap from the pump.
@@libertynindependence wow surprised it needed to that fresh
@@libertynindependence no problem
Mixer is too thin, should be smoke from the exhaust.
I believe you are correct
Something I have noticed with the 2 strokes is the newer ones are recommending less oil than many older ones
No I have never done that.
thank you Yves Cote
How about the owner read the manual? Unbelievable.
hes elderly so i can see how he could make a mistake.
i can't believe people that buy and want to use these tools, don't even have the most basic fundamental knowledge or read the manual to use right gas/oil. you would think with all the info on tube ......
yes its hard to believe
No I have not.
Thanks for the comment I appreciate it
Maybe he shold bye a handsaw...
I bought a brand new MS 120 mark 2 that won't idle right out of the he box. Got a carb tool had to adjust high and low and increase throttle.
Did it work?
Lucky for him he can’t read…