They sound 10x better than I expected. Seems like the “floor tom” would be a better rack tom and a conventional floor tom would be a good addition. Those original Remo PTS kits didn’t even have lugs. They just had clips to hold the heads on.
A friend in high school had a white PTS set with those clips - and they sounded OK! Have seen a few sets on eBay over the years, but they clearly did not stick with the concept. Interesting for sure.
God bless you and God bless anyone reading this! Hope you have an awesome day! Seek him while you can! Jesus is the way and the only way and he is returning soon! Whenever you think you aren't loved... Remember the ultimate sacrifice was for love! ENDING YOUR LIFE IS NEVER THE ANSWER! For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 KJV The wages of sin is death (hell) but Jesus paid our debt on the cross, for our salvation! We must turn to God and away from our sinful ways, Confess Jesus is Lord and believe with our hearts that he was risen from the dead by God, and we must be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and The Holy Spirit and live by His word and Commandments! Trust that God will help with the rest! Seek God today before it's too late! Today could be your last day on earth! Have a blessed day! -❤️❤️
Dios te bendiga y Dios bendiga a Todos los que estan leyendo esto! Deseo que tengan un hermoso dia! Buscad a Dios mientras pueda ser hallado! Jesus es el camino y el unico camino y regresa pronto! Recuerda cuando te sientas que no eres amado... el mayor sacrificio se hizo por amor! EL SUICIDIO NUNCA ES LA RESPUESTA! Porque de tal manera amó Dios al mundo, que ha dado a su Hijo unigénito, para que todo aquel que en él cree, no se pierda, mas tenga vida eterna. S. Juan 3:16 RVR1960 La paga del pecado es muerte (infierno) pero Cristo pagó nuestra deuda en la cruz para nuestra salvacion! Debemos volvernos a Dios y apartarnos de nuestros caminos pecaminosos, confesar que Jesús es el Señor y creer con nuestro corazón que fue resucitado de entre los muertos por Dios, y debemos de ser bautizados en el nombre del Padre, del Hijo y del Espíritu Santo y vivir por Su palabra y mandamientos! Confia que Dios ayudara con el resto! Busca a Dios, antes de que sea muy tarde! Hoy podria ser tu ultimo dia en la tierra! Que tengas un hermoso dia! -❤️❤️
Just want to say, while the drums themselves are super cool, I really appreciate the history lessons! I know they’re probably more work for video editing, voice over, and research, but I thought it was really neat to learn about them! (Now I’m kinda wishing that we got to hear the full section at 8:06!)
God bless you and God bless anyone reading this! Hope you have an awesome day! Seek him while you can! Jesus is the way and the only way and he is returning soon! Whenever you think you aren't loved... Remember the ultimate sacrifice was for love! ENDING YOUR LIFE IS NEVER THE ANSWER! For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 KJV The wages of sin is death (hell) but Jesus paid our debt on the cross, for our salvation! We must turn to God and away from our sinful ways, Confess Jesus is Lord and believe with our hearts that he was risen from the dead by God, and we must be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and The Holy Spirit and live by His word and Commandments! Trust that God will help with the rest! Seek God today before it's too late! Today could be your last day on earth! Have a blessed day! -❗️❗️
Dios te bendiga y Dios bendiga a Todos los que estan leyendo esto! Deseo que tengan un hermoso dia! Buscad a Dios mientras pueda ser hallado! Jesus es el camino y el unico camino y regresa pronto! Recuerda cuando te sientas que no eres amado... el mayor sacrificio se hizo por amor! EL SUICIDIO NUNCA ES LA RESPUESTA! Porque de tal manera amó Dios al mundo, que ha dado a su Hijo unigénito, para que todo aquel que en él cree, no se pierda, mas tenga vida eterna. S. Juan 3:16 RVR1960 La paga del pecado es muerte (infierno) pero Cristo pagó nuestra deuda en la cruz para nuestra salvacion! Debemos volvernos a Dios y apartarnos de nuestros caminos pecaminosos, confesar que Jesús es el Señor y creer con nuestro corazón que fue resucitado de entre los muertos por Dios, y debemos de ser bautizados en el nombre del Padre, del Hijo y del Espíritu Santo y vivir por Su palabra y mandamientos! Confia que Dios ayudara con el resto! Busca a Dios, antes de que sea muy tarde! Hoy podria ser tu ultimo dia en la tierra! Que tengas un hermoso dia! -
I thought they would be horrible but they were incredible musical and amazing Even the floor Tom blended well to me. Maybe I’m crazy or I just love old sounding drums Especially the Phil Collins fill you did
Honestly kinda Shook by the sound. It was like instant 80’s without anything electronic being plugged in. Kinda hope this hits 10k likes now lol sorry Dave!
They actually sound better than I was expecting. Could see them being used as some sort of auxiliary percussion part. My first thought was "they remind me of the drums a couple of high school marching bands were using back in the 80's". Yeah, they probably ARE the same brand. Probably the same drums as the marching toms, just with different mounting hardware. The heads are pre-tuned. There is very little range of adjustment possible with them. I remember one of the instructors I was working with telling me about the toms at one of his schools. Kid broke a head shortly before they went onto the field. He didn't have any of the pre-tuned heads available so he took a knife and cut out the broken head. Grabbed a regular head and used the old hoop on it. Tuned up the drum and the shell promptly collapsed. Oops.
If I were a gigging drummer (bars, weddings, etc.), I could be seriously tempted on these just for something that looks unique on stage! I've long maintained that for such purposes, as long as the drummer is adequate, the quality/type/brand of drums/cymbals are almost irrelevant! Your average bar/nightclub patron or wedding/party guest isn't going to really notice the difference, or care. As long as you can keep the beat, and the rest of the band are decent, people should be having a good time!
I wouldn't say the quality of the kit is almost irrelevant, I would say it's wholly irrelevant. A skilled drummer can make even a dime store kit sound like a million bucks.
@@Durwood71 I wouldn’t say it is irrelevant though. It’s really just a misconception that quality instruments make a performance more enjoyable. They really only make the playing more enjoyable. Not that it’s entirely a waste of money, but it is not essential to play on a nice set of drums
@@Durwood71 Yeah it's wholly irrelevant when the quality of a drum kit is so horrible that it's cheap imported bolts, lug casings, and wing nuts strip out, leaving your drums detuned and on the floor for a gig. I'll bet you'd still sound like the greatest drummer in the world no matter, because your playing them 🤣🤣🤣 The only way you could make yourself sound any dumber is to deem yourself as a working drummer, or even a drummer for that matter.
@@soterudsvarten8356 No doubt, I would love to beat on a top of the line drum set just because of how much fun it would be, but I also know it wouldn't make my borderline competent playing any better.
They sound excellent! Surprised at how good they sounded in the mix. Did you try mic'ing the port holes? That kit looks like it wants mics all around it.
Remo PTS Series is the “Pre-Tuned Series”. I actually owned a Remo PTS drum set that had those heads and they did not traditional tuning lugs. The heads were mounted to the shell with a latch because they did not have to be “tuned”. Very low end kit probably marketed as a starter kit. I apologize that I do not have pictures of it (probably because that was almost 35 years ago. Thanks for the great videos David!
I had a PTS kit too. I was 13 year old kid in the early 1980s and it was an inexpensive starter kit, which I outgrew in a year or so. There's actually an instructional video with Louie Bellson using PTS drums.
Ah, the Remo PTS heads! When my brother started playing drums his first kit was a Remo PTS with the latches. Problem was you couldn't tune the heads as they wore in and replacement PTS heads were way more expensive then regular ones.
The toms have a nice interval including the floor tom. People usually seem to want the lowest possible tuning but in a mix higher seems to work better to cut through and project.
A couple of great gems in here. Firstly, the drum corps footage of the Madison Scouts that you show your self in the background of features one of my former students in the center of the snare line, Brandon. Secondly, I remember Remo PTS heads from the early 90s. As far as I can remember,I think they were used by the Cavaliers mounted on hula-hoops, but I also remember them being on the marching drums when I was in elementary and junior high school. They were held onto the shell by clips and not even lugs/tension rods.
The craziest thing for me (a Wisconsin boy) was reading that these were made in Wausau, WI! Didn’t know Wausau ever produced drums! And yeah, the drums sound pretty great! The kick is nice and full, and the toms do sound pretty warm!
Remo PTS is "Pre-Tuned Sound". I had them on my first drum kit back in the early 80's. I literally cut the head out of the rim, then placed a "normal" head under the rim, tightened the hook-style lugs, and was able to tune as desired. Not ideal, but it really worked and it sounded way better with a Pinstripe vs Remo PTS heads. Cool video.
I played those once upon a time. Bonham played some drums similar to these once. But, not pre-tuned. McCormick also made some fiberglass drums in the 80's. Yes. These are marching band inspired. Check out the Blue Devil's Drum Corps
Sweet kit! I remember seeing Impact drums advertised in Modern Drummer and sold in “The Woodwind and the Brasswind” catalog in the ‘80s. I had the chance to ask Bermuda about them back in the early ‘90s and he gushed about how easy they were to get great sound from. He was right.
If these are the same drums I saw some marching bands use in the 80's......... you wouldn't be saying that. For a single drum set, they're probably not bad to get a good sound from. They sounded absolutely horrible on the marching field. Not sure if it was the nature of the drums with their pre-tuned heads or instructors that just didn't know what to do with them. If you had a few tom players, getting all of them to sound the same was a nightmare. Snares only slightly less. Tuned bass drum parts, good luck.
@@kmabru I was only referring to sets, and Bermuda used tunable heads, not PTSs, so there’s a difference, for sure. I didn’t even realize Impact made marching drums - interesting. I’ve been a lifelong Pearl guy for marching drums, both playing and teaching, so I’ve never come across Impact. Yamaha, Ludwig, Dynasty, Remo, Slingerland, and even Stingray once or twice, but never Impact. I can imagine they were pretty thin-sounding, though.
@@michaelandcolinspop Figured you meant sets. Though I will say this, the toms here look exactly like the marching tenors. One instructor I worked with had them at one of his lines (not his choice). Kid broke a head shortly before they went on the field. Didn't have any proper replacements so he cut out the head with a knife. Used a standard head with the original hoop. Cranked it up to tune it and the shell promptly collapsed. Can't remember how they got around that! Probably borrowed a set of quads from another band. I marched with Pearl, Slingerland and Ludwig. Did get to try out a set of Premier bass drums, but I was already out as far as marching. I don't recall anyone using Yamaha at the time I marched.
@@kmabru Man, a collapsed tenor shell would be a nightmare even if you weren’t about to go on! The only time I ever saw anything like that from Pearl was with a set of tenors at a school where I instructed, but it wasn’t Pearl’s fault. They were several seasons old when I got there and the kid or kids who played them before apparently had a nasty habit of hitting the bearing edge too often, which eventually caused a bad delamination and partial collapse. There was no fixing that shell, but it gave me a good reason to push the booster club to invest in a brand new line of Pearls. I did see an Acousticon-shelled Remo tenor spock from The Glassmen (Toledo) completely delaminate and collapse after repeated rain shows back in ‘94-‘95. They were at their truck trying to make it work when an instructor took the drum off and chucked it into the trash. Not even the rim or head were salvageable. When the shell collapsed, it took just about else everything with it.
So, that is only the second set of "Impact" drums that I've ever seen. The first being the kit that I have owned since late 1986. There are quite a few differences between the two sets. First, but not all that important, is my shells have solid black wraps with the same white interior. Now, for the fun stuff....my set consists of 10", 12", 13" and 14" inch rack toms. These toms, however, mount on stands that are specifically made for that purpose, so they do not mount on the bass drum. This allows the user to move the toms to any location that they wish (the down side being that the shape of the toms doesn't work well for left-handed drummers). The bass drum is 22"X18" and stands alone, as it has no mounting holes/hardware for toms at all. The floor tom is 16". The set also came with a 14" X 6 1/2" snare. It sounds good, but I always opted for my Pearl, as I just liked the feel and sound of it just a little better. I did use the Impact snare as a back up if needed. I use "pin stripes" on all of the toms and a "super dot" on either snare. I never experienced the head attached to hoop thing, and don't understand that either. All of my shells came with soft cases, so even after all these years, they still look decent. When I purchased them, my intention was to get another kick and an 18" floor tom, but couldn't afford them at the time. By the time I could, the company as you mentioned, weren't making drums any longer. :( So cool to see another set of Impacts on the planet!
Honestly, they sound pretty great as they are. I was totally surprised. I would not not change a thing about them. It is sort of like finding a recording studio with a perfect room. If the sound works, don't fix it. Great video, BTW. Cheers.
I just wanna say that you inspire me to repair my drums beacuse they were in bad condition and also to make 6x6 tom-tom and 16x19 floor tom. You are the best drummer/youtuber beacuse you are the most inspiring! Love from Serbia! ❤️
That brings back memories. At the 4:40 mark, you can see McCormick's on the sticker (not a badge, a sticker). McCormick's was founded by Larry McCormick of Cavaliers Drum and Bugle Corps fame. I worked at McCormick's for a summer in Arlington Heights (suburban Chicago area). I was the grunt in the warehouse that shipped marching band products such as flags, flag poles, as well as drums. I also repaired drums that had been returned. These were made of fiberglass and had almost no rigidity w/o the hoop/head combo. Thanks for posting!
Man, if I could even remotely afford it, I would make you an offer for that kit right now. I absolutely love the way they sound, and the oddity factor is SUPER cool. Awesome. Damn, they sound cool!
Those are wild-looking drums! I really liked how they sounded. They seemed to have a really fat, beefy sound, and amazingly the floor tom didn't sound bad with the other drums even though it cannot be tuned.
Here's another idea: As a non-drummer drawn more by the tinkering and home improvement part of your work, I'd appreciate a video where you explained your preference in drum sizes, which you mention every now and then, and where it comes from, going a bit into the general differences and fundamentals made by size. I could search for that elsewhere on youtube but you have that special skill of preparing your thoughts and packaging them neatly in a nutshell so people can understand it, so besides your personal take, it would probably come out better in terms of didactics than from most other creators (with the possible exception of Daniel Glass or Rick Beato.)
definitely has that 70-80's tom sound. for being older and not in great shape they sound really good! ive seen these kits before but from what i remember, i never actually heard one being played past a simple beat. cool to see and hear
Ok I love this high pitched concert tom sound apparently. Didn't think I would be into it but they sound great in this context. Imagine a hybrid of another grey, 4 piece kit with the addition of the two high toms from this kit.
Dude! Rad drums! Glad you mentioned North, because they just made me think of them too. Dave King (12 Rods, The Bad Plus, Happy Apple), my favorite drummer, played a North kit the first time I saw him play.
The definitely personify the 80’s drum sound. Maybe it’s because of the way you tuned them. But definitely as soon as you started the song and started playing, I went thru a Time Machine to 1985!!! 👍🏼
I played something like this some years ago (I think it was the staccato), it was really fun and it had a HUGE live sound. I would be curious to know how this kit sounds on the drummer side and front viewer side.
They sound actually surprised me. I had a Pearl kit a few years back that took me hours and hours to tune to sound halfway decent. Went from the original heads to Remo to eventually settle with Evans heads. Kinda like the set, would be a cool set to convert to electronic drums just for the looks of them.
The idea of the Remo pre-tuned heads were created for the Remo RIMS drumset in the 80's. It was a drumset that had only heads suspended from mounts for the drums. It could fold up completely flat for travel or storage.
I saw those on eBay for $800 I wanted them so bad I’d never heard of impact drums glad you gottem I was trying to buy a set of staccato drums from Canada just sold a few days ago for $3000
Those drums were made in Wausau WI. Terry Theron owned the company and one of the guys who fabricated those drums was Mike Love. These are a kit version of their marching drums.
My freshman year of high school, we mounted their smaller toms on our snare drums...one on each side. I guess our band director figured it would be better than cross drumming across each other's drums.
My first kit in 1983 was a REMO PTS 5 piece kit. The heads looked the same as what are on this kit. It did have flimsy little wire clasps to hold the head on to the shells and after a year of playing, my parents upgraded me to a Pearl Export 7 piece kit with Japanese Rising Sun wraps. If you ever see those for sale, I would be interested in buying at least one as a memento.
This drumset is the cheatcode that turns any genre into Miami Vice style, 70's synthpop. Like if you played 2000 metalcore it would probably sound like something played in Mangum P.I.
Totally reminded me of my first kit. Was an impact, same exact style but was white. I remember being beyond confused as to the shape of the shells, and could never find anything as to why they were like that. Love the videos man!
my 1st. set Ludwig was fiberglass see through with 13,14,15, 16 and 18 floor an old 60 early 70 for 200.00 now 1985 a 10pc pearl 3500.00. your vids are very interesting and great knowledge. thanks for being here enjoyed some others you posted. great drumming
I had a collection of old Modern Drummer magazines that had ads for the Remo PTS kits. Louie Bellson was playing them. I never knew what they sounded like.
And yeah, I do remember Remo ads for whole 'PTS' kits ('Pre-Tuned System', if I remember correctly) with Louie Bellson in them, around 1983, targeted at beginner drummers 🙂
That tama mount is from the 80s probably. My dad has one for his granstar. The round holes hold cymbal arms and the diamond shaped one holds a tom mount. We usually use it to mount the 10in tom. But you could also use it to mount the 13 he has and mount the 10 and 12 on the bass itself.
I was floored when I saw these were made in Wausau, WI. I live there now and never had heard of this brand, which apparently still exists today making drum cases and is only a few blocks away from my house. Thanks for featuring these drums, David! Would love to get my hands on an Impact Marching Snare one day.
PTS pre tuned system was a remo invention. The remo versions the heads used a spring clasp instead of a lug. There are many stories of those drums breaking under normal playing. I believe Louie bellson can be seen playing them in a few videos.
Actually dig that kick drum... But then again, I shouldn't be surprised. If it's good enough for Weird Al, how could I not love it. Great mix, too, my man. Liked
Whats the first song you would play on this kit?
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Very disappointed you didn’t put one of the toms on your head as a helmet, so you could look out the front rectangular slot with your eyes.
😂 Hilarious I was thinking the same thing
I actually came to see if he did this I'm still stuck in the ads, very sad now
First thing I’d have done🤷♂️
@@joelmartin3213 Same. 👊
Seemed obvious to me.
They sound 10x better than I expected. Seems like the “floor tom” would be a better rack tom and a conventional floor tom would be a good addition. Those original Remo PTS kits didn’t even have lugs. They just had clips to hold the heads on.
Agreed, they sound really good.
Yeah, I definitely wasn't expecting that either. Pretty cool! 🤟
A friend in high school had a white PTS set with those clips - and they sounded OK! Have seen a few sets on eBay over the years, but they clearly did not stick with the concept. Interesting for sure.
God bless you and God bless anyone reading this! Hope you have an awesome day! Seek him while you can! Jesus is the way and the only way and he is returning soon! Whenever you think you aren't loved... Remember the ultimate sacrifice was for love! ENDING YOUR LIFE IS NEVER THE ANSWER!
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16 KJV
The wages of sin is death (hell) but Jesus paid our debt on the cross, for our salvation! We must turn to God and away from our sinful ways, Confess Jesus is Lord and believe with our hearts that he was risen from the dead by God, and we must be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and The Holy Spirit and live by His word and Commandments! Trust that God will help with the rest!
Seek God today before it's too late! Today could be your last day on earth!
Have a blessed day!
-❤️❤️
Dios te bendiga y Dios bendiga a Todos los que estan leyendo esto! Deseo que tengan un hermoso dia! Buscad a Dios mientras pueda ser hallado! Jesus es el camino y el unico camino y regresa pronto! Recuerda cuando te sientas que no eres amado... el mayor sacrificio se hizo por amor! EL SUICIDIO NUNCA ES LA RESPUESTA!
Porque de tal manera amó Dios al mundo, que ha dado a su Hijo unigénito, para que todo aquel que en él cree, no se pierda, mas tenga vida eterna.
S. Juan 3:16 RVR1960
La paga del pecado es muerte (infierno) pero Cristo pagó nuestra deuda en la cruz para nuestra salvacion! Debemos volvernos a Dios y apartarnos de nuestros caminos pecaminosos, confesar que Jesús es el Señor y creer con nuestro corazón que fue resucitado de entre los muertos por Dios, y debemos de ser bautizados en el nombre del Padre, del Hijo y del Espíritu Santo y vivir por Su palabra y mandamientos! Confia que Dios ayudara con el resto!
Busca a Dios, antes de que sea muy tarde! Hoy podria ser tu ultimo dia en la tierra!
Que tengas un hermoso dia!
-❤️❤️
Shocked at how good they sounded. So many modern kits sound exactly the same to me, nice to hear something unique.
Agreed!!
I'm no drum player, but how would some of those "hydro" 2 plus oil filled sound on this?
Just want to say, while the drums themselves are super cool, I really appreciate the history lessons! I know they’re probably more work for video editing, voice over, and research, but I thought it was really neat to learn about them! (Now I’m kinda wishing that we got to hear the full section at 8:06!)
^^
God bless you and God bless anyone reading this! Hope you have an awesome day! Seek him while you can! Jesus is the way and the only way and he is returning soon! Whenever you think you aren't loved... Remember the ultimate sacrifice was for love! ENDING YOUR LIFE IS NEVER THE ANSWER!
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16 KJV
The wages of sin is death (hell) but Jesus paid our debt on the cross, for our salvation! We must turn to God and away from our sinful ways, Confess Jesus is Lord and believe with our hearts that he was risen from the dead by God, and we must be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and The Holy Spirit and live by His word and Commandments! Trust that God will help with the rest!
Seek God today before it's too late! Today could be your last day on earth!
Have a blessed day!
-❗️❗️
Dios te bendiga y Dios bendiga a Todos los que estan leyendo esto! Deseo que tengan un hermoso dia! Buscad a Dios mientras pueda ser hallado! Jesus es el camino y el unico camino y regresa pronto! Recuerda cuando te sientas que no eres amado... el mayor sacrificio se hizo por amor! EL SUICIDIO NUNCA ES LA RESPUESTA!
Porque de tal manera amó Dios al mundo, que ha dado a su Hijo unigénito, para que todo aquel que en él cree, no se pierda, mas tenga vida eterna.
S. Juan 3:16 RVR1960
La paga del pecado es muerte (infierno) pero Cristo pagó nuestra deuda en la cruz para nuestra salvacion! Debemos volvernos a Dios y apartarnos de nuestros caminos pecaminosos, confesar que Jesús es el Señor y creer con nuestro corazón que fue resucitado de entre los muertos por Dios, y debemos de ser bautizados en el nombre del Padre, del Hijo y del Espíritu Santo y vivir por Su palabra y mandamientos! Confia que Dios ayudara con el resto!
Busca a Dios, antes de que sea muy tarde! Hoy podria ser tu ultimo dia en la tierra!
Que tengas un hermoso dia!
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They look odd, but sound great.
A real 80's vibe, maaan!
Was gonna say the same thing. A real Miami Vice vibe!
Dude, that's a good kit. I wouldn't shy away from swapping hardware with modern parts if they fit.
I thought they would be horrible but they were incredible musical and amazing
Even the floor Tom blended well to me.
Maybe I’m crazy or I just love old sounding drums
Especially the Phil Collins fill you did
@photag216 I have some cool drumming content as well check it out
I was wondering if anyone else caught that little bit of sweetness.
@@youtubeTrole I love Phil Collins.
I always pull that fill out because it always entertains me so much
You need to play in the air tonight on this 😆
Yessss!!!!
100%
Honestly kinda Shook by the sound. It was like instant 80’s without anything electronic being plugged in. Kinda hope this hits 10k likes now lol sorry Dave!
Kinda wondering how much of that sound is mixing, and how much of it is the drum set itself
@@ahorseinahospital right, if they sound that good by themselves he found a hell of an old kit
Yup. I heard Miami Vice in the back of my head.
@@ahorseinahospital I subtracted the reverb in my head (lol) and they still sound very 80’s to me. Nice sound, tight and projecting.
I thought same thing
They actually sound better than I was expecting. Could see them being used as some sort of auxiliary percussion part.
My first thought was "they remind me of the drums a couple of high school marching bands were using back in the 80's". Yeah, they probably ARE the same brand. Probably the same drums as the marching toms, just with different mounting hardware. The heads are pre-tuned. There is very little range of adjustment possible with them. I remember one of the instructors I was working with telling me about the toms at one of his schools. Kid broke a head shortly before they went onto the field. He didn't have any of the pre-tuned heads available so he took a knife and cut out the broken head. Grabbed a regular head and used the old hoop on it. Tuned up the drum and the shell promptly collapsed. Oops.
Yep. I made the comment above that it's an old set of marching tenors.
If I were a gigging drummer (bars, weddings, etc.), I could be seriously tempted on these just for something that looks unique on stage! I've long maintained that for such purposes, as long as the drummer is adequate, the quality/type/brand of drums/cymbals are almost irrelevant! Your average bar/nightclub patron or wedding/party guest isn't going to really notice the difference, or care. As long as you can keep the beat, and the rest of the band are decent, people should be having a good time!
I wouldn't say the quality of the kit is almost irrelevant, I would say it's wholly irrelevant. A skilled drummer can make even a dime store kit sound like a million bucks.
@@Durwood71 I wouldn’t say it is irrelevant though. It’s really just a misconception that quality instruments make a performance more enjoyable. They really only make the playing more enjoyable. Not that it’s entirely a waste of money, but it is not essential to play on a nice set of drums
@@Durwood71 Yeah it's wholly irrelevant when the quality of a drum kit is so horrible that it's cheap imported bolts, lug casings, and wing nuts strip out, leaving your drums detuned and on the floor for a gig. I'll bet you'd still sound like the greatest drummer in the world no matter, because your playing them 🤣🤣🤣
The only way you could make yourself sound any dumber is to deem yourself as a working drummer, or even a drummer for that matter.
@@soterudsvarten8356 No doubt, I would love to beat on a top of the line drum set just because of how much fun it would be, but I also know it wouldn't make my borderline competent playing any better.
They sound excellent! Surprised at how good they sounded in the mix. Did you try mic'ing the port holes? That kit looks like it wants mics all around it.
I'm blown away at how much better these sound versus what I thought they would sound like. Wow...just wow!
This kit sounds really good. It’s got that mega 80s pop funk vibe. Kinda that Minneapolis Kit sound.
Remo PTS Series is the “Pre-Tuned Series”. I actually owned a Remo PTS drum set that had those heads and they did not traditional tuning lugs. The heads were mounted to the shell with a latch because they did not have to be “tuned”. Very low end kit probably marketed as a starter kit. I apologize that I do not have pictures of it (probably because that was almost 35 years ago. Thanks for the great videos David!
I had a PTS kit too. I was 13 year old kid in the early 1980s and it was an inexpensive starter kit, which I outgrew in a year or so. There's actually an instructional video with Louie Bellson using PTS drums.
Ah, the Remo PTS heads! When my brother started playing drums his first kit was a Remo PTS with the latches. Problem was you couldn't tune the heads as they wore in and replacement PTS heads were way more expensive then regular ones.
Thank you for this comment. I am feeling absolutely ANCIENT hearing him say "I never heard of..." all this stuff in the video.
we gotta get to 10k likes FAST i wanna see this kit to its full potential
The toms have a nice interval including the floor tom. People usually seem to want the lowest possible tuning but in a mix higher seems to work better to cut through and project.
A couple of great gems in here. Firstly, the drum corps footage of the Madison Scouts that you show your self in the background of features one of my former students in the center of the snare line, Brandon. Secondly, I remember Remo PTS heads from the early 90s. As far as I can remember,I think they were used by the Cavaliers mounted on hula-hoops, but I also remember them being on the marching drums when I was in elementary and junior high school. They were held onto the shell by clips and not even lugs/tension rods.
ha no way, Brandon and I went to high school together.
@@rdavidr Awesome! Great dude!
The craziest thing for me (a Wisconsin boy) was reading that these were made in Wausau, WI! Didn’t know Wausau ever produced drums!
And yeah, the drums sound pretty great! The kick is nice and full, and the toms do sound pretty warm!
I am a little surprised how good they sound, definitely a 70s/80s vibe to them.
Remo PTS is "Pre-Tuned Sound". I had them on my first drum kit back in the early 80's. I literally cut the head out of the rim, then placed a "normal" head under the rim, tightened the hook-style lugs, and was able to tune as desired. Not ideal, but it really worked and it sounded way better with a Pinstripe vs Remo PTS heads. Cool video.
I played those once upon a time. Bonham played some drums similar to these once. But, not pre-tuned. McCormick also made some fiberglass drums in the 80's. Yes. These are marching band inspired. Check out the Blue Devil's Drum Corps
Sweet kit! I remember seeing Impact drums advertised in Modern Drummer and sold in “The Woodwind and the Brasswind” catalog in the ‘80s. I had the chance to ask Bermuda about them back in the early ‘90s and he gushed about how easy they were to get great sound from. He was right.
If these are the same drums I saw some marching bands use in the 80's......... you wouldn't be saying that. For a single drum set, they're probably not bad to get a good sound from. They sounded absolutely horrible on the marching field. Not sure if it was the nature of the drums with their pre-tuned heads or instructors that just didn't know what to do with them. If you had a few tom players, getting all of them to sound the same was a nightmare. Snares only slightly less. Tuned bass drum parts, good luck.
@@kmabru I was only referring to sets, and Bermuda used tunable heads, not PTSs, so there’s a difference, for sure. I didn’t even realize Impact made marching drums - interesting. I’ve been a lifelong Pearl guy for marching drums, both playing and teaching, so I’ve never come across Impact. Yamaha, Ludwig, Dynasty, Remo, Slingerland, and even Stingray once or twice, but never Impact. I can imagine they were pretty thin-sounding, though.
@@michaelandcolinspop Figured you meant sets. Though I will say this, the toms here look exactly like the marching tenors. One instructor I worked with had them at one of his lines (not his choice). Kid broke a head shortly before they went on the field. Didn't have any proper replacements so he cut out the head with a knife. Used a standard head with the original hoop. Cranked it up to tune it and the shell promptly collapsed. Can't remember how they got around that! Probably borrowed a set of quads from another band.
I marched with Pearl, Slingerland and Ludwig. Did get to try out a set of Premier bass drums, but I was already out as far as marching. I don't recall anyone using Yamaha at the time I marched.
@@kmabru Man, a collapsed tenor shell would be a nightmare even if you weren’t about to go on! The only time I ever saw anything like that from Pearl was with a set of tenors at a school where I instructed, but it wasn’t Pearl’s fault. They were several seasons old when I got there and the kid or kids who played them before apparently had a nasty habit of hitting the bearing edge too often, which eventually caused a bad delamination and partial collapse. There was no fixing that shell, but it gave me a good reason to push the booster club to invest in a brand new line of Pearls. I did see an Acousticon-shelled Remo tenor spock from The Glassmen (Toledo) completely delaminate and collapse after repeated rain shows back in ‘94-‘95. They were at their truck trying to make it work when an instructor took the drum off and chucked it into the trash. Not even the rim or head were salvageable. When the shell collapsed, it took just about else everything with it.
So, that is only the second set of "Impact" drums that I've ever seen. The first being the kit that I have owned since late 1986. There are quite a few differences between the two sets. First, but not all that important, is my shells have solid black wraps with the same white interior. Now, for the fun stuff....my set consists of 10", 12", 13" and 14" inch rack toms. These toms, however, mount on stands that are specifically made for that purpose, so they do not mount on the bass drum. This allows the user to move the toms to any location that they wish (the down side being that the shape of the toms doesn't work well for left-handed drummers). The bass drum is 22"X18" and stands alone, as it has no mounting holes/hardware for toms at all. The floor tom is 16". The set also came with a 14" X 6 1/2" snare. It sounds good, but I always opted for my Pearl, as I just liked the feel and sound of it just a little better. I did use the Impact snare as a back up if needed. I use "pin stripes" on all of the toms and a "super dot" on either snare. I never experienced the head attached to hoop thing, and don't understand that either. All of my shells came with soft cases, so even after all these years, they still look decent. When I purchased them, my intention was to get another kick and an 18" floor tom, but couldn't afford them at the time. By the time I could, the company as you mentioned, weren't making drums any longer. :( So cool to see another set of Impacts on the planet!
Honestly, they sound pretty great as they are. I was totally surprised. I would not not change a thing about them. It is sort of like finding a recording studio with a perfect room. If the sound works, don't fix it. Great video, BTW. Cheers.
true, be careful with the revamp
Really want to see this kit restored! Sounds great!
I just wanna say that you inspire me to repair my drums beacuse they were in bad condition and also to make 6x6 tom-tom and 16x19 floor tom. You are the best drummer/youtuber beacuse you are the most inspiring! Love from Serbia! ❤️
Brate, voleo bih da čujem taj 16x19 floor 😃
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That brings back memories. At the 4:40 mark, you can see McCormick's on the sticker (not a badge, a sticker). McCormick's was founded by Larry McCormick of Cavaliers Drum and Bugle Corps fame. I worked at McCormick's for a summer in Arlington Heights (suburban Chicago area). I was the grunt in the warehouse that shipped marching band products such as flags, flag poles, as well as drums. I also repaired drums that had been returned. These were made of fiberglass and had almost no rigidity w/o the hoop/head combo. Thanks for posting!
There are these old Slingerland kits that have the bottom of the toms curved outwards. They're called "Power Play" toms. They made them in the 70s
Man, if I could even remotely afford it, I would make you an offer for that kit right now. I absolutely love the way they sound, and the oddity factor is SUPER cool. Awesome. Damn, they sound cool!
Amazing sound
Those are wild-looking drums! I really liked how they sounded. They seemed to have a really fat, beefy sound, and amazingly the floor tom didn't sound bad with the other drums even though it cannot be tuned.
Here's another idea: As a non-drummer drawn more by the tinkering and home improvement part of your work, I'd appreciate a video where you explained your preference in drum sizes, which you mention every now and then, and where it comes from, going a bit into the general differences and fundamentals made by size. I could search for that elsewhere on youtube but you have that special skill of preparing your thoughts and packaging them neatly in a nutshell so people can understand it, so besides your personal take, it would probably come out better in terms of didactics than from most other creators (with the possible exception of Daniel Glass or Rick Beato.)
definitely has that 70-80's tom sound. for being older and not in great shape they sound really good! ive seen these kits before but from what i remember, i never actually heard one being played past a simple beat. cool to see and hear
Nothing like a single headed melodic tom tom.
I LOVE this sound! It would be perfect in some Phil Collins stuff.
That was my first thought, a drummer in a band that covers Genesis or Phil Collins solo would love these.
Classic early 80's sound. You nailed the application. The toms, floor tom and bass drum all sound great within the context of the music.
Great unique tom sound. Please consider making and selling multilayered round robin samples of this kit.
Ok I love this high pitched concert tom sound apparently. Didn't think I would be into it but they sound great in this context. Imagine a hybrid of another grey, 4 piece kit with the addition of the two high toms from this kit.
You never Cease to Amaze me David! Keep up the Good Work🤘
When you started playing those toms - instant Phil Collins 'In the Air Tonight' hahaha
Dude! Rad drums! Glad you mentioned North, because they just made me think of them too. Dave King (12 Rods, The Bad Plus, Happy Apple), my favorite drummer, played a North kit the first time I saw him play.
The definitely personify the 80’s drum sound. Maybe it’s because of the way you tuned them. But definitely as soon as you started the song and started playing, I went thru a Time Machine to 1985!!! 👍🏼
I played something like this some years ago (I think it was the staccato), it was really fun and it had a HUGE live sound. I would be curious to know how this kit sounds on the drummer side and front viewer side.
Feels like Christmas when rdavidr uploads a video ❤️
This is one of the most creative drum channels on TH-cam. You and EMC are the best at creating unique content
So, you received OVER 10,000 likes on this kit video. HAVE YOU DONE THE RESTORATION/MODIFICATIONS?
They sound actually surprised me. I had a Pearl kit a few years back that took me hours and hours to tune to sound halfway decent. Went from the original heads to Remo to eventually settle with Evans heads. Kinda like the set, would be a cool set to convert to electronic drums just for the looks of them.
I think this is the best demonstration song that you've ever used on this channel for any drum kit.
the solo at the end was fantastic!. that SOUNDED AMAZING!
The idea of the Remo pre-tuned heads were created for the Remo RIMS drumset in the 80's. It was a drumset that had only heads suspended from mounts for the drums. It could fold up completely flat for travel or storage.
I saw those on eBay for $800 I wanted them so bad I’d never heard of impact drums glad you gottem I was trying to buy a set of staccato drums from Canada just sold a few days ago for $3000
Weird Al's drummer John "Bermuda " Shwartz use to endorse Impact drums, they all sound pretty good!
That drum fill you played at 10:58 was sick!
the end was great lol. great playing and I loved the 80s feel of the filming/ editing.
This proves that it is not the drum that makes the drummer. Nailed it
I wasn't expecting them to sound so great! I've never heard of this brand but I hope you make more videos with these!
I loved the drumming at the end. So musical. He is a fantastic drummer.
Those drums were made in Wausau WI. Terry Theron owned the company and one of the guys who fabricated those drums was Mike Love. These are a kit version of their marching drums.
My freshman year of high school, we mounted their smaller toms on our snare drums...one on each side. I guess our band director figured it would be better than cross drumming across each other's drums.
THAT’S who Bermuda is!! Sheesh, I’ve been seeing his name pop up for the better part of 2 decades on forums. Finally, answers.
Super 80s sounds I felt from this kit! Love it but dang that seems like a rough set up only because of the shape/design
My first kit in 1983 was a REMO PTS 5 piece kit. The heads looked the same as what are on this kit. It did have flimsy little wire clasps to hold the head on to the shells and after a year of playing, my parents upgraded me to a Pearl Export 7 piece kit with Japanese Rising Sun wraps. If you ever see those for sale, I would be interested in buying at least one as a memento.
Thank you for the video and my condolences on you purchasing this drum kit. I made a similar mistake many many years ago purchasing a north drum kit.
I laughed way too hard at the grainy 4:3 aspect ratio shots @4:17 , very nicely done to make the footage era-accurate.
That drum got very nice 70’s/80’s sound. I pretty sure you will be getting a lot offers on that drum very soon. That kick drum is pure punch
This drumset is the cheatcode that turns any genre into Miami Vice style, 70's synthpop. Like if you played 2000 metalcore it would probably sound like something played in Mangum P.I.
That song is perfect for them! They sound better than expected…throwin’ us back to the 70’s!
Totally reminded me of my first kit. Was an impact, same exact style but was white. I remember being beyond confused as to the shape of the shells, and could never find anything as to why they were like that. Love the videos man!
8:46 “So, if this video gets ten thousand likes, I’ll completely revamp this kit”. So… you’ll be doing this… WHEN???????😂
That is actually an old set of tenors for marching band. Impact made those back in the 70s and 80s. I remember seeing them in old magazines.
my 1st. set Ludwig was fiberglass see through with 13,14,15, 16 and 18 floor an old 60 early 70 for 200.00 now 1985 a 10pc pearl 3500.00. your vids are very interesting and great knowledge. thanks for being here enjoyed some others you posted. great drumming
🤣🤣🤣 Awwww, man, he sent you the crunchy blanket and pillow as packing and napping material. Sounds about right for that kit.
The demonstration was like an 80s commercial for impact drums. Should’ve covered the Miami Vice theme song too.
I had a collection of old Modern Drummer magazines that had ads for the Remo PTS kits. Louie Bellson was playing them. I never knew what they sounded like.
I bought a pair of Pearl drums back in the early 80's, they were black fiberglass concert toms, they were nice and sounded good!
My favorite video you have done to date! They sound great. You really dove into the lore on these drums.
Outside of what a banger of a video this was, the editing style was super sick on this one, keep it up!
I just noticed this kit is in the Weird Al The Saga Begins music video
Those sound a lot better than I thought they would. Thanks for showing us them!
And yeah, I do remember Remo ads for whole 'PTS' kits ('Pre-Tuned System', if I remember correctly) with Louie Bellson in them, around 1983, targeted at beginner drummers 🙂
That kit sounds great and your mix is awesome
That tama mount is from the 80s probably. My dad has one for his granstar. The round holes hold cymbal arms and the diamond shaped one holds a tom mount. We usually use it to mount the 10in tom. But you could also use it to mount the 13 he has and mount the 10 and 12 on the bass itself.
I was floored when I saw these were made in Wausau, WI. I live there now and never had heard of this brand, which apparently still exists today making drum cases and is only a few blocks away from my house. Thanks for featuring these drums, David! Would love to get my hands on an Impact Marching Snare one day.
They sound pretty good! I love the fill at the end ala Phil Collins "In the Air Tonight" lol!
PTS pre tuned system was a remo invention. The remo versions the heads used a spring clasp instead of a lug. There are many stories of those drums breaking under normal playing. I believe Louie bellson can be seen playing them in a few videos.
thats like most 80's sounding drumset ive ever heard :D instantly reminded stuff like Knight Rider theme and stuff
really dig the style of music that you pick for the demonstration fits great with the kit.
That song at the end!!!! Perfect for those drums!
That kick's got some seriously soft punch to it. Pretty awesome set, even with the wear and tear.
I reeeeeally just want to play the “In the Air Tonight” fill on those. So 80’s, in the best way.
This is so weird; Just days ago, I flipped through an ancient Modern Drummer and saw this kit. And now you got it! Amazing.
Very unique ‘Miami Vice Theme’ sound. Totally thought that’s where you were going with it.
I kind of love that they look like screaming robots and now I want one of these kits.
You should rick roll the world on that drum set, it's a great tone for the intro for a cover never gonna give you up
Actually dig that kick drum...
But then again, I shouldn't be surprised. If it's good enough for Weird Al, how could I not love it.
Great mix, too, my man. Liked
Reminds me of the kit I used to play for live laser shows. Good times
in college, i borrowed a friends Pearl Vari-Pitch kit... They're roto-toms mounted to shells... You read that right.
Haha. That EPIC 80’s slow fade on the cameras. Dig
that's actually a really good sounding kit. proper 80's feel.
Sounds much better than I expected. Fits well with your backing track